Is reverse colonization justified?

Once the white people I won't have to reincarnate and all you brown animal can live forever in your hell hole

Taking in account, Brazil has used x10 times more slave labor than the US, it's quite amazing the UK managed to reach our level.

I wonder how many years it'll take before you join the club.

You got a point. Whites are just mad they were born too late for the party.

Niggers shouldn't have sold other niggers into slavery

Racist whites are mad they have to keep their racism quiet but they deserve everything they get and more. Karma is real. It takes a while but it sure comes back.

Sugarcane used to be extremely labor-intensive and Portugal had a tiny population, at least we got mostly Angolans, instead of fucking Western Africans like the US, kek.

Canada is destined to be Sikh land in the future as Sikh politicians have the government by the bootstraps.
you know I'm right, and everyday you cope that you were born in the 90s and not the 1900s

UK managed to reach our level.

i wouldn't go that far

a 5'2 jeet saying this

Kek

Why not? I can think many ways you're far worse than Brazil, like we never had any non-white as president, while you were literally ruled by an India.

No, Whites create civilization and non-Whites destroy civilization.

Europeans built infrastructure where they colonnized.
Shitskin chimps beg for handouts and lead to spikes in crime where they settle.

Op is a niggerbitch.

Nah you destroyed their countries and created those shitholes and then complain when they move in for a better life.

Muslims are outbreeding Hindus in India as China builds a dam cutting off your main fresh water source, Dravidian chimp.

I've seen you curb turds out in the wild, you don't scare me. When shit hits the fan, we'll pile your bodies up at the airports.

Did people being colonized ever ask them to build that?

at least "white" people rule over our favelas

nigger please

They didn't have a written language to send letters

Come on mate, let's play a game, find someone half as brown as Lord Rishi, former PM of the UK: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_Brazil

Or any of these British leaders.

yeah lets play a game called spot the white brazilian

no we didn't, we dragged them kicking and screaming into the modern world

you leftists keep making the same false equivalence fallacy, we are NOT equal, it is for the greater good when we wage wars of conquest because we put an end to your stagnancy and put you to work, your contribution to civilization is multiplied a hundred fold, you accomplish more in a year working for the white man than your parents and grandparents did in their entire lives teetering about in the jungle, and you get paid more too

now this "reverse" colonization will result in an average IQ drop, high crime, the end of high trust society, brown voters voting for dumbass socialists and more gibsmedats, you are not here because of your intelligence, strength and bravery sailing around the world and battling native warlords, you are here because naive white leftists believed you were equal and invited you here in good faith expecting your IQ to rise to 100 like the white man with a good diet, lol

now that we realize this is not true, now that we realize how much decadence, complacency and naivety has harmed us, now that we realize that not only are you useless but also that you are malicious and hate us, things are going to change, things are going to get very bad for you, and for us, but we will be living in clean low crime, if poor, white communities while you live in slums in the cities and we refuse to pay taxes for your welfare and other bullshit, it will be terrible, and you will go back to your home country as you had no roots here, we will see this transpire by the time we are old, many here will die in poverty but at least we have some forewarning

This is about to get good...

colonialism was the elites using white men as stunt dummies to manifest their ambitions

whites were colonized first, hence their disposition to whine and feel inadequate, never possessing personal sovereignty, just cattle to be used and disposed of

Salvador? Really, do you really need to pick the very single most black capital city of Brazil to say the UK is not as bad, haha.

i googled brazil population and picked a random image
there was much much browner images

You should learn about who they conquered. The African slave kingdoms were exporting so many slaves, that the Kingdom of Dahomey ran out of men and had to have an all-female army. The King of Dahomey had enriched himself greatly, and then the British set up the Blockade of Africa in order to eliminate the Transatlantic Slave Trade. Learn basic history, retard. White people end the slavery that niggers practiced for centuries on each other.

Thread isn't about slavery. Its about colonization.

Niggers are still enslaving each other in Africa today. There’s a documentary on Max about it. There are more enslaved humans right now than at any point in world history.

But it's ok mate, I'll throw you a bone, we used to have 1 (one) black guy in the supreme court.

Now, do you want to play a game called "people on TV"? You'll try to find a single nigger in a major position in Brazilian television, while I'll try to find a single white guy in the BBC.

Colonization was about ending slavery. That was the reason. It was the desire to "manifest destiny" by spreading Enlightenment, even into the darkest of Africa. It was about freeing mankind from the tyranny of men.

Colonization was often about land and resources, this is how colonies without slaves like Argentina or Uruguay are still FAR whiter than colonies with slaves like Brazil or the US.

Most of your population is nigger though and Brazil isn’t doing anything to stop niggers from the north migrating to the south. Brazil will be soon South Africa and eventually Haiti if world war three doesn’t happen resulting in Brazil getting nuked for supporting China. Nuking your major cities would make the population of Brazil more White.

Not indian.

Argentina or Uruguay

Mestizos are 85% of their population.

From day one, Brazil has been a very large slave plantation, nothing changed in 500 years.

It has some pure breed niggers, a lot of half-niggers, and a few whites ruling over them, just like in the good old days.

Europeans built infrastructure where they colonnized.

That was for the invaders you retards. Their officers were given luxury resorts and amenities. They didn't do it for the colonized otherwise they would resemble first world countries.

Not really, Mestizos are a majority in Bolivia, Chile, Peru, Colombia who had huge native populations (Peru had more than Europe at the start of colonization), but Argentina and Uruguay are considerably whiter than the US or Canada, even if we assume that when Americans call themselves white they are actually White.

We are not getting colonized, we are actively being genocided by our own ruling class

Nah you deserve to be genocided. Non colonized countries have better outcomes. You got lucky with freemason.

cope

i see why you asked to play that game
BUT
10 + 45% of the population are black/niggercaste
which is very brown

No, there's nothing just about the replacement of the European people. Forced mass deportation stat

Is there a non-European country that considers itself never colonized?

Jews colonized Europe

Europe colonized the world

And so it goes.

Mestizos are still at least part Caucasoid

If africa was colonized by europeans, than why is it 99.98% black?

People from the South sure know how to cry, if only they knew how to work, bunch of lazy fags.

Bu... but... Brazil has a lot of niggers

It sure does, mate. The country is still what it was in the mid 1800s. The real difference between Brazil and the UK is that we while Lord Rishi Sunak and Sir Sadiq Khan rule over your somehow still White populations, we are not ruled by fucking niggers, or jeets.

I don't know what is worse.

Yeah, only 5% of the US population has 0% non-European admixture, retarded monkey lol

Is there a non-European country that considers itself never colonized?

For practice purposes, most Americans I've talked to do not consider the US a colony, it's always "ok, we were a colony, but were not India or Nigeria"

You’re a pardo nigger mutt.

Calm down my Southern brother, I'm White and my family has been running this farm for a lot of time.

im surrounded by niggers and jungle niggers that call themselves latin

but at least the president is slightly less brown

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Wasn't European colonization of North Africa just "reverse colonization" for Al-Andalus?

In any case, colonization is never justified, but let's just say European colonization of Africa and the current African colonization of Western Europe didn't yield quite the same result for the affected lands...

It was jewish merchants that owned and operated the ships. Labor has always been the driver of economies, the new labor is automation, where millions of brown immigrants will be replaced by machines and technology.

What if you reincarnate into the brown people. Then you live in a worse hellhole. This is why it is important to maintain the white race by breeding.

It was jewish merchants that owned and operated the ships.

No it was not, Jews were predominant in the US, but very few slaves were moved by American ships.

Most slave trade was done by Catholics or Anglican protestants.

The European ships were literally owned by jewish merchants and their merchantile companies. They invested bigtime into the slave trade and made a huge profit.

No, but they didn't go back to living naked in neolithic straw huts after whitey left, so I guess it's safe to assume they like the infrastuctures and technologies colonialism brought.

The European ships were literally owned by jewish merchants and their merchantile companies.

Not many, the kingdom of Portugal and of Spain didn't allow non-Catholics to run ships, the kingdom of France didn't allow non-Christians until the French rev. when French slave trade was basically over.

The UK had some Jewish merchants, but most were Anglican or some other flavor of protestant, only in the US Jews were (and still are) so dominant.

Even if we pretend every single English, Dutch and American slave trade was a kike, the Catholics of Portugal and Brazil outnumber them all combined.

Do you even know what a converso was. They simply had to say they accepted christianity and then go back home to their menorahs. Same schtic they've always done during pogroms. A huge number of the Portuguese merchants and companies in the slave trade were literally sephardis.

Yes, and you should know that unlike with protestants, "Cristões Novos" lacked some rights, including the right to own and operate ships under the Portuguese flag.

Try to not project how things happened in the US to Brazil.

They literally were given rights at various times due to their economic power. Other times their converso origin was simply ignored. One of the most famous Portuguese slave traders was a converso.

No, but TND is.

They literally were given rights at various times due to their economic power.

Again, try to not assume what happened in the US also happened everywhere else.

One of the most famous Portuguese slave traders was a converso.

Which one are you talking about?

That was for the invaders you retards.

Europeans built entire cities during the 80 years they spent ruling Africa.
As a matter of fact, the vast majority of current Subsaharan African major cities were pretty much built from scratches by colonizers between the late 19th century and the mid 20th century.

Claiming these cities were built "for the invaders" is pretty ridiculous given that there were barely any white settlers outside of South Africa and Rhodesia.

The slave trade didn't start in the US. It started in Portugal and Spain with sephardic jewish merchants. Literally. They got the first contracts and the biggest contracts.

The slave trade didn't start in the US.

No, they didn't, slavery started with the Portuguese (some decades before the Spanish who mostly used natives as slaves), and the Portuguese merchants were mostly Catholic Christians, or recent Muslim converts.

Unlike in the US, the Netherlands, the UK or other protestant countries, where were always very few jews in Portugal or in Brazil.

There's this idea that "based and good Christians" wouldn't enslave, so jews must have done it. But this is plainly false. Slavery was always on the memory in former Roman core territories, or economic model was literally a variation of the Roman Latifundium.

No

Exactly. Now enjoy your karma.

The earliest contracts were instigated at the behest of Spain, with Portugal as a joint party. And the biggest and earliest contracts went to conversos. The most famous early slave trader in history was a converso. Sure the goys manned the ships and did the labor, but it was owned and operated by these state sanctioned conversos. It was business.

There's this idea that "based and good Christians" wouldn't enslave

Slavery isn't purely evil. There are many instances in which slavery is justified.

This low effort shill "meme"

The earliest contracts were instigated at the behest of Spain, with Portugal as a joint party

Not really, you're missing that slave trade begun before the discovery of America by the Spanish, when colony cities were established in Northern and Western Africa.

The most famous early slave trader in history was a converso.

For the second time, who was this Cristão novo you keep talking about?

Sure the goys manned the ships and did the labor, but it was owned and operated by these state sanctioned conversos. It was business.

You really need to stop projecting how kikes run your shithole into others.

I surely would never want to be a slave, kek. But at least we kept the good n'old Roman model for slavery, I guess it's less shitty than what people practice in English colonies.

natural

Based

Cringe

Simple as

Racist Jews are mad they have to keep their racism quiet but they deserve everything they get and more. Karma is real. It takes a while but it sure comes back

I would have less of an issue with it if jeets, dune coons, and niggers were doing it fair and square, but really it's kikes doing 95% of the work for them.

The most famous early slave trader in history was a converso.

Come one anon, you've made me curious.

They're not colonizing shit, we're doing this to ourselves.

Thanks for letting me in

White people make subhumans' life better
Shitskins only destroy

t. Colonized by both Japs and whites

asiatics bitching about "colonialism" when they extracted wealth from Europe for 1000 years via the Silk Road and its connected societies like north indian fiefdoms

get mad about Europeans sailing around the coastlines, building trade ports, and establishing fair trade after they were informed more than a century prior that they should stop exploiting Europe

gotta reverse-colonize dem white ppl for building the world

Imagine tomorrow the west says "no more shitskins", there wouldn't be a single thing you vermin can do asides from crying raycism. That's not colonizing shit kek.

Two weeks

We used weapons and intelligence to colonize.
They infiltrate here pitying the leftists. That's not the same. Sometimes I hope they would have declared war and tried to conquer Europe with weapons. We would have cancelled them once and for all.

Is reverse colonization justified?

Sure, if you think we should be able to own the entirety of North Africa and replace them with Mediterranean Europeans.

The tide is slowly turning, that's a fact.

Of course it is

All of MENA would be a start.

I surely would never want to be a slave

You are a slave to your body, it's urges and it's needs. Anyway, my pet dog is essentially my slave. The donkeys and horses of my great grandparents were essentially their slaves. Obviously humans are above animals but also, by nature, some humans are above others, if only temporary. The prison population is virtually enslaved. Of course slaves are bought and sold like property but if you treat them still with dignity and humanity then the comparison to inanimate property ends there. Rich sports teams and their owners buy and sell players like property yet nobody gets offended. Slavery gets demonized to highten our compassion for blacks so they in turn are allowed to get away with more fuckery. I don't buy the story.

Slavery gets demonized to highten our compassion for blacks so they in turn are allowed to get away with more fuckery. I don't buy the story.

Here's the Cato the Elder classic on how to run a farm, it include on how to deal with slaves: penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Cato/De_Agricultura/A*.html

Instead of my commenting on it, you should read the original and see what you think.

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Are you ok with being a slave yourself?

justified

strength is justification, if europe falls to a bunch of unarmed niggers and jews with an army of... europeans, then the white race has failed, although i wish that wont happen.
either way zogbots are the worst cause theyre whites destroying whites.

Where Europeans went, they made things better. Since they left, they turned to shit. Now the colonized are colonizing Europe to ensure that there is nowhere nice left on the planet. Great job, shitskins.

Yeah, my bad. I forgot that the Middle East played a hand in it too. All of the Arab world it is, then. We're waiting.

Where Europeans went, they made things better

Virtually every country whites colonized was doing far better before colonization than after it.

Colonial capital cities always look amazing, and life there is great for ruling elites, life does not get better for the majority of society.

it's not reverse colonization, the third world is not building infrastructure or improving quality of life when they invade.

Yes, all those powerful African countries that still haven’t figured out indoor plumbing even though Rome did it over 2,000 years ago.

Neither did Europeans

I know for a fact you don’t have a single example of that, you worthless memeflag kike.
But hey, don’t forget your own logic means that isreal is an illegitimate state, and one who engaged in colonialism much more recently than any White nation

Romans also figured Germanic people are only good as slaves.

They thought that of Celts, too; at least they got that part right.

Point being? I can make a point about Europeans failing to figure out the virtues of women rights before foreigners helped them.

Which foreigners?

You're not wrong, and Romans were not wrong. They tended to think like this about all the barbarii, orientals are another whole history, and Greeks, Romans like the Greek

Jewish people taught Europeans that. Europeans had 2,000 to give women equal rights, but couldn't figure that out without Jewish people giving them a hand.

Depends how badly you want to genocide the goyim

I think what the jews did right, more than anything, was make their bloodlines matrilineall; this ensured that they are still around after thousands of years. However, giving women equal rights is generally NOT a good thing for society.

Am reading. I find it talks about slaves only tangentially. The passage that talks about the duties of the overseer seems to be the most closely related part, unless I missed something.

The following are the duties of the overseer:— He must show good management. The feast days must be observed. He must withhold his hands from another's goods and diligently preserve his own. He must settle disputes among the slaves; and if anyone commits an offence he must punish him properly in proportion to the fault. 2 He must see that the servants are well provided for, and that they do not suffer from cold or hunger. Let him keep them busy with their work — he will more easily keep them from wrongdoing and meddling. If the overseer sets his face against wrongdoing, they will not do it; if he allows it, the master must not let him go unpunished. He must express his appreciation of good work, so that others may take pleasure in well-doing. The overseer must not be a gadabout, he must always be sober, and must not go out to dine. He must keep the servants busy, and see that the master's orders are carried out. p15

Would you be ok being a pet yourself? Should people who wouldn't want to be pets not be allowed to keep pets themselves or not be allowed to speak out for petkeeping? Would you be ok working in a workshop for the disabled for pay way below minimum wage? If not, should that mean that we shouldn't give certain disabled people the opportunity to work there? If you say "well I'm not disabled" then I say "well I'm not meant to be a slave". Not all men are created equal, in those regards.

What the fuck you're talking about? Many European, mostly Celtic and Germantic scum, had for all purposes equality between men and women.

Just look at Boadiceia.

It's one of these old sites that divide the text in many web pages, here's part B: penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Cato/De_Agricultura/B*.html
You can replace the letter on the URL.

This is not a text to read in this thread, but to read and enjoy over time.

This. Iran and Thailand never got colonized by white demons and aren't complete shitholes same as japan.

Lol made up bullshit. Probably mongols.

However, giving women equal rights is generally NOT a good thing for society.

Maybe people being colonized had the same opinion about the industrial revolution Europeans gave them?

Not all men are created equal, in those regards.

Chud detected

How does this logic work with all the European countries that didn't colonize? Do they get to be free from reverse colonization?

Oh wait, you don't care, you just hate whites because you never have or will do anything of value ever and use them as an excuse.

White people make subhumans' life better

Sure like what they did to India and the middle east? Why aren't they developed first world countries you retard gook?

Maybe people being colonized had the same opinion about the industrial revolution Europeans gave them?

The alternative being, the Sentinelese, or random tribes not yet discovered by the white man in Brazil.

No its called karma. You reap what you sow. You can't escape consequences.

But about classic slavery, many writers cry about the lack of automation that would make slave unnecessary.

The alternative being the systems they already had, and offered a better quality of life in most cases (Africa excluded).

I'm not even Jewish. Brown here.

caring about nigger's opinions

So why are you in Canada?

Why did brits loot and destroy india then? They pillaged and brought back all the wealth to their home countries from Africa instead of investing it there. Fucking criminal whites should be shot. You're getting away with it easy imo.

Why not?

Yes indeed, but specifically, why?

To destroy the west.

Thanks, I didn't notice.

no counter-arguments

Thought so.

But you moved to the west because its nicer than the shithole you came from. Don't you want to continue to live in a nice place?

Not really, you're missing that slave trade begun before the discovery of America by the Spanish

I've been saying where the contracts were coming from. Spain and Portugal were both issuing contracts to each other, Portugal got involved in the slave trade due to Spanish need, and this relationship worked out well.

For the second time, who was this Cristão novo you keep talking about?

Manuel Rodrigues Lamego. Another famous one in the transatlantic trade before him was António Fernandes de Elvas. The main early period for transatlantic trade started c1520-1530. Earlier was Fernão de Loronha and Juan de Córdoba (15th and 16th century). Others were José Rodrigues Mascarenhas (16th century), Lope Conchillos (signatory to slave trade documents), and in the 17th and 18th century French America the Monsanto family. The period of heaviest trade was after the 16th century.

You really need to stop projecting how kikes run your shithole into others.

Kikes have always run things the same wherever they've gone. They run the same in your country and in my country. They ran the same in the 11th century as they do now. The difference is they now have near full spectrum economic dominance.

Tell me where in Africa did the people of the white nations completely take over, move in their people in droves to misplace the population already there, and ethnically purge everybody in the area?

It isn't "reverse colonization" when it comes to Europe it is genocide of the white european people's, their culture, their entire identity. None of the white nations did that to the Africans. They are not only taking the white people's homeland but also wanting to drive them off of it and wipe them out as a people/culture in the area. Does that sound simply like colonization to you?

No but they sure do love having it. Get back to me when they start tearing down all of this evil European infastructure that the Europeans built FOR THEM. Until then shut up hypocrite.

It's ok when we do it because we're better than everyone else.

Somewhat ironically automation and the industrial revolution worsened the conditions for the average worker in a trade for less, but generally more luxurious free time, and to some extent more security regarding food and otherwise. I wonder where AI will lead us.

Slaves were not sold by contract, tho. They we brought and sold on open markets.

It's quite bad it happened in Germanic countries, instead of Latin ones, otherwise would probably see a lot of dolti far niente for everyone.

They were sold in complex and generalized ways. Sometimes the official opinions on the matter were ignored. But generally the state (crown) issued contracts to merchants who were given the power to distribute licenses to carry out the business. Some of the chief people in the whole process and owners of the mercantile companies carrying out the work were conversos, including the most powerful people involved directly under the crown in the issuing process. It was largely trading business contracts guaranteed or sanctioned by the crown and the merchantile companies to buyers in the plantations.

Nope, one was done by war and effort to spread civilization, the other was done through lies and deceit, like a parasite by kike and kike appointed politicians to destroy civilization

no, never.

But generally the state (crown) issued contracts to merchants who were given the power to distribute licenses to carry out the business.

In the US where foreigners were allowed to sell slaves, in Brazil, only and any Portuguese merchant could sell slaves.

Again, do not extend what happened in your country, to all.

The earliest asientos were given to foreigners. Specifically German and French merchants. It happened in all countries the same way. With the same people. Don't look into how many of the Dutch traders were from jewish backgrounds. And regardless the process started with Portugal and Spain and the powerful converso merchants.

If colonization of Africa with white people happened.. then where are all the white people in Africa today?? Oh that's right there was no colonization of Africa by whites. Where are the cities? They're not there that's right. There's no white people there.

The earliest asientos were given to foreigners.

Again, you're not even using the right language. Are you telling me that Portuguese "conversos" had "asientos"? Do you have any idea about how the colonial pact between Brazil and Portugal (and it's feitorias in Africa) worked?

You're not understanding what I'm implying or the evidence I've given. The first asiento de negros were in fact given to foreigners. But even before this, the trade was already dominated by converso like Mascarenhas in 1495-1500. The powerful conversos got the contracts to conduct slave trade as a business, from the earliest pre-transatlantic period to the first transatlantic period. As I previously mentioned the so called law against foreigners was moot because the first official asientos de negros given by the crown were given to German and French families, and those contracts were carried out by the conversos merchants and their shipping companies.

Yeah even places like Croatia Estonia Romania countries who never did le colonization of poor bipoc rats are getting niggers and poojeets
It has nothing to do with le revenge colonization
Poojeet and niggers just live in awful conditions and that's why they're eager to live their shithole

Anon, you're talking about Spain and assuming Portugal was the same.

Under the Portuguese system (under which most slave trade was done), any Portuguese merchant had the right to buy slaves in feitorias, and sell them in Brazil. No "asiento" like in Spain.

You know what's funny about these fags?They blame immigrants for their poverty and for their countries "falling apart," all while refusing to take accountability for the actions that destabilized those very nations actions that often forced people to flee in search of stability. The decline of their own industries is largely self inflicted, yet instead of facing that reality, they're whipped into a frenzy by corrupt politicians and corporations who feed them lies and redirect their anger. It’s not reason it’s fear and ignorance weaponized

The contracts were directly interrelated between both countries in the early period. In some of them the Spanish crown would give out an order for a contract to the west indies, and Portuguese and Spanish conversos would carry that out or operate the contract, in some cases own the contract. The early transatlantic trade was a plurality between Spain and Portugal, with Spain actually having most of the issued contracts. They didn't fall out big time until more than a century later.

Ok, fine. Fuck foreigns, I don't care.
But wtf did we do to have to deal with spics and jeets?

Eh, boliva and Peru are more native than mestizo

That's probably the reason why it happened in Germanic countries lol. There's this joke about this poor fisherman. He's chilling in his boat on the shore drowsing when a merchant comes along. The latter asks the former "Hey, wake up, it's high noon, shouldn't you be working?" and the fisherman responds "It's a beautiful sunny day, why should I waste it with work?"
The merchant: "Well if you work hard you might catch enough fish to buy new nets" - "And then?" the fisherman.
"Then you can work harder without your gear giving up. You can catch more fish and buy a bigger boat." - "And then?"
"Then you can sail out farther where the bigger fish are and try for them. You can sell them at the market for more money and eventually, if you work hard enough, but a second boat." - "And then?" - "Then you can start your own company, hire other fisherman and work with them as a team." - "Aha. And then?" - "Then you can grow your group to a whole fleet and catch fish for weeks. You can monopolize the fish trade and put the prices for fish as high as you like." - "And then?" - "Then you'll be rich and can bask in the sun." - "You see" says the fisherman "I'm way ahead of you. Now please step away and let me continue basking."

It's always easy to blame someone else. If it was not the jeets, it'd be some type British minority, maybe the "reds", maybe the "libs".

The contracts were directly interrelated between both countries in the early period.

Trade between countries was a small part of total slave trade, a part that is very relevant for the US, but nor for the whole More than half of total slave trade was done inside Portugal, from Portuguese feitorias in Africa, by Portuguese ships, into Portuguese cities in Brazil.

Spain sometimes purchased Portuguese slaves because Portugal had a better foothold in Africa, access to good slaves (Angolans) and a massive naval capacity. But this was tiny when compared with how much intra-Portuguese trade was done.

Look up how many time's you over through governments and killed people you didn't like in Latin America. all for your kike corporations

As are Mexico, Ecuador or any other country with huge native populations. Slaves were imported where there was no local workforce to exploit.

That's the whole joke, mankind as one whole Chinese empire would have been as good as it get.

But it's not colonization.
It's ethnic cleansing.
Also, Serbs never had any colony yet we're still getting replaced. Mind you there's only around 5 million of us living in Serbia and it's mostly elderly population. Jews can replace us in a decade if they wanted to.
Are you still gonna call it reverse colonization?

Are you still gonna call it reverse colonization?

We could call it colonization, the reverse is just to put emphasis that it is happening in Europe, instead of out of Europe.

You mean a hivemind?

The early trade was literally huge contracts issued by Spain that were carried out by both Spanish and Portuguese conversos. The trade was to various places, there are records of some of these converso previously being under contract to Portugal and then getting a lucrative contract with Spain to do the same thing, trade slaves. And in both Portugal and Spain the top dog merchants getting the contracts were very often, powerful conversos. The modern psyop that says jews weren't involved is easily disproved by study of the conversos and early transatlantic merchants and lords of the contracts. It is just as disproved when you study the Dutch jewish merchant, and the French America merchants, and then finally the English merchants.

It was a shitskin rat who made this image anyway
Swedes never colonized Syria
Romania never colonized roachland it was vice versa
Basically shitskins will come with all sort of justifications on why they're entitled to live among le ebil whitey

No, I mean... forget it, I don't think I can explain to you the Chinese empire.

Early trade was mostly intra-Portuguese trade, with some Spanish contracts. It's not that what you're saying didn't happen, it did, but it was a relatively small phenomena when compared with regular Portuguese traders, without any special permit, trading slave from Angola to Brazil.

Mana Musa built an empire on slavery. It's well and alive in Africa to this day, the home of slavery. They just don't call it that anymore, but it's there.

They can't accept they've been played. Their fragile egos would be destroyed. Honestly I felt bad the last time I was in the UK. Tons of people in the streets in tent's. Mostly white, but they blame the other poor people that try to make a live there. Honestly it's fucking stupid. I get hating people not integrating into their new place. But a lot of people don't give them a chance. So they for their own pockets. Which breeds more division (you vs me). And their faggot politicianscorporations take advantage of it. It's so obvious, but most people are fucking stupid

You'll die of the cold when your landlord locks out out of your section 8 housing, you stupid shitskin.

You mean orderly, well organized but pre-industrial? I think I see it. That would certainly have been good times.

No, white people improved every non white country.
Browns destroy every country they set foot in. It is because they have a nomadic brain, they move to an area shit it up and move on when stuff runs out, they are like a cancer, the planet can not sustain large numbers of non whites.

The early pre-transatlantic period was still operated under Portuguese contract or illegally by the same jewish merchant families. The conversos were just the later wave that also dominated. Several of the guys I mentioned were in the mercantile slave trade under Portugal before their families were conversos, they were just Sephardic jewish merchant slave trader conglomerate families and companies. While Spain outright appointed the top positions to conversos publicly, the same had families that stood to massively profit from those positions and contracts because much of the shipping and logistics was carried out by them.

This sort of ego stuff tend to be work in weird ways, the worse things get, the more one need to tell himself why he's actually great and things are not his faulty, the most extreme case of this is Israel today.

Peace periods tending to last 2 to 3 centuries, good distribution of property and wealthy, government run by exam officials, trade and money lending kept under a tight leash, culture, society, ways of life locked in time because there was no major social force pushing for change... pretty decent.

I don't even consider myself white, I'm racist
But they want to live in Serbia because they see us as Gods because they confuse Slavs with westoids and they come here anyway
We have one of the shittiest economies in Europe (completely colonized and ruined with privatization after the fall of socialism) and no gibs but they still chose to stay here

Eh, México is still mostly native. They may have a pinch. So is Guatemala, the rest of central America i would personally consider mestizo. The blacks we have were mostly escaped slaves. A few imported but not many

It was large, profits were large, but was tiny compared with regular slave trade, no contracts, no special rights... done between Brazil and Angola. Literally more than all slaves traded were traded like this, in a direct manner by regular Portuguese merchants.

So we can say that slave trade as a whole was done by Catholic Portuguese, but slave trade outside of Brazil was done like you said.

So no colonization?
Cool then browns should feel free to fuck off.

Meanwhile, Brazil got more than half of all slaves exported, if we didn't import a lot of European, and strange Japanese, we'd be a mostly pure blood black nation today.

I forgot the pic, all you describe are those small arrows, what I describe is that one single huge arrow on bottom.

Honestly I don't tend to hate other based on religion or skin. Mostly by actions. But if someone has earned my hate it's kikes and poojeets.

Your not getting the point on who owned and operated the companies engaged in both legal and illegal trade. It was dominated by jews and conversos. The Columbus expedition was also funded by jews, literally.

Yeah technology is a curse and blessing. Industry specifically. I think we naturally yearn for simpler times, less to worry about the intricacies, the connections and the far reaching implications of our actions. Less inhibition to be satisfied with what we're given.

No read into the guys I mentioned. All of them literally traded west africans to both the west indies and brazil, several of them also traded asian slaves. It was a multinational business.

I always thank God that I got to meet foreigners, either due to work, vacations or online, but I've never had to live with any foreigner.

Sometimes, living in a country almost as closed as DPRK is good.

Mate, there were no "companies" in trade between Angola and Brazil, only regular merchants, and it was the majority of trade.

The phenomena you talk is relatively small, even if we had to kill a lot of kike slave merchants after we kicked the Dutch out.

Again, do you have any idea of how large the slave trade between Angola and Brazil was? It's not like in the US were one merchant can make a huge difference, it's more like modern container ships, faceless and vast.

All in all, I think it was a better model, at least for people not on top.

I am not going to seriously debate someone who thinks he can own other people. Its pointless. It boils down to morals which you lack, so we would be arguing on different grounds.
Serbia does not deserve to get colonized

I'd be able to respect it more if whites lost a physical fight, having some faggots in charge sellout and hand over the country for shekels and blackmailable degeneracy is just fucking gay though.

Not white doesn't mean automatically shitskins
I don't consider east asians shitskins for example
I was referring to the specific way shitskins often argue why they are entitled to live among anglos or frenchies
They cry about muh past colonization even though plenty of former east asians colonies are doing great
It's just a shitskin way of coping with his own incompetence

Whites lost a physical fight, tho. Western Europe was taken by kikes in WW2, militarely.

You lost the fight by refusing to show up. You are not resisting anything being done to you.

Room temp IQ

We had a lot of Germans but they for kicker out in WW2 because mutt's basically insinuated it. Italians didn't get kicked out though. I need to do a bit more research on this

Is it good to lower IQ scores and increase crime rates, permanently?

Nonwhites are inferior. Period. No civilization greater than what you see in their home countries will exist ever again. In fact, without trade with whites necessitating peace and increasing their wealth some, it will probably be worse.

but u wun don du SHEIT why boi

Thats why we don’t have more rapists than college graduates, nigger.

There was. The people who owned the ships were companies (powerful merchant families with real assets) under contract by the crown. And in their illegal trades they simply flew whichever flag was of convenience to do business. But directly, Spanish and Portuguese ships traded directly between both brazil, Iberia, west africa, and the indies. Some Spanish ships also took brazilian slaves to the west indies and Iberia.

There's an old saying that says, "pobre México, tão longe de Deus, e tão perto dos Estados Unidos".

Also, check this ad.

Whites lose fight against sellout whites

Doesn't count.

Peasant revolutions never work, it's the responsibility of the elites to lead the people but they just sold out.

Portugal and Spain were both involved. Portugal didn't have enough ships to conduct all of the trade, neither did Spain. Most of it was conducted by merchant owners, some of it also by Italian and French ships. Spanish ships regularly landed in brazil.

No, because they do not colonize by their own power or virtue, but by the jew's printing of money.
In the end they will ALL be killed for pressing as they are. Not only those who came here but ALL of them. No non-white will survive into the 22nd century, and jews are most assuredly not white.

No matter how many times you repeat how slave trade operated in the US, it'll not magically change how it operated in Brazil.

And no, except during a period, no Spanish (or any other nation) ship or merchant trade in Brazil, it was a very closed economy. Exporting slave from Brazil was forbidden and very rarely happened.

Implying American are white.

Joke appart, you're not European.

Here most people are welcoming to anyone outside the country. But if you act like an asshole you'll find out. There have been a few case's of Europans and gringo's finding out. A couple of years a go an Italian in a small town beat a homeless old man for sitting in front of his house in the side walk. Everyone knew the old man. He was harmless. H got lynched. There's a video of it.

no

reverse de-colonization is gonna be awesome

Portugal had more than enough ships to conduct all colonial trade, slaves included, this is why Brazil was literally closed to non-Portuguese merchants.

Spain lacked ships and this often relied in Portuguese merchants.

Spanish ships regularly landed in brazil.

Only during a brief period where both crows were united, otherwise no, only Portuguese ships traded in Brazil.

No. It was the white man's burden to civilize the savages. It's not the brown man's burden to uncivilize Europe.

The elites were never on your side. They do not have any kind of religious or ethnic solidarity. They've always looked out for themselves and regular Europeans were merely tools for them to achieve their objectives.

Sure thing, brown one.

Here most people are welcoming to anyone outside the country. But if you act like an asshole you'll find out.

Same around here, but Brazil has very very few foreigners. Guess it's in part because of the language barrier, in part because our economy is very closed (very hard to do business here as a foreigner), and in part because things here are extremely... bureocractic, in the lack of a better word.

I'm detailing how the trade was conducted in official and unofficial Spanish and Portuguese documents and merchant practices. Loronha directly brought and traded slaves to and from brazil.

Maybe uncivilizing Europeans will make them have children again and raise their testosterone levels a bit.

Arguably why our race deserves to die out. Black elites exhibit black solidarity. Jewish elites exhibit jewish solidarity. Asian elites exhibit Asian solidarity. White elites take the shekels and marry their children off to jews.

And this is why you're not getting it, trade from Angola to Brazil (or any other Portuguese territory) was done by any Portuguese merchant, without much documentation, it's like airplane travel produce a lot of paper trains, but bus travel do not.

No it didn't. This is why there were so many contracts issued to the converos and merchants, and many Italian ships as well. Spain didn't have enough ships either and did the same thing.

Yeah maybe.
My morals differ from yours. But blanket statements like "owning people is bad" won't get you anywhere in this discussion. "You shouldn't keep people in cages" is another such statement one could make yet there is hardly anyone protesting the existence of prisons.

Anon, you're getting it wrong, Portugal had more than enough ship capacity to supply Brazil, in no small part because there were a lot of Brazilian based ships under the Portuguese fleet, more than under the British, Spanish and French flags at a point.

remember this when you are thrown out of canada

I just mean that this has always been the case more or less, its not exactly a new thing. A British aristocrat in the XIX century had as much solidarity with a an average Brit as with any non-European out there.

Kek, we actually have a few japanese migrants. There is this based dude that runs to get funding for public schools. I fucking dislike most mutt and leaf expats. Fucking degenerates and have literal sex trafficking ring's. The pedo fucks every time they are about to get lynched they get "arrested" then their embassy step's in and takes them back to the US. They face no real consequences

Even trade from angola was also conducted by Spanish and converso merchant ships. It was all a huge racket, from which the most powerful people were converos and jewish merchants. They even orchestrated many of the plantations even after it was made illegal for them. I don't know what twisted mindset leaves you to defend multinational jewish trade and crime, they literally do the same shit today.

Yes, the Hispanic Empire had ZERO colonies.

Kill all anglos and frenchs in Europe, NOT Hispanics. Hispanics created the idea of World Peace, and maintained it for +300 years!! Whites created poverty, the third world and its pro-anglo (((borders))). They should be punished, NOT Hispanics.

Fucking degenerates and have literal sex trafficking ring's. The pedo fucks every time they are about to get lynched they get "arrested" then their embassy step's in and takes them back to the US.

This is the fame they have here, but as they tend to get caught I guess this type just avoid Brazil.

Portugal literally gave out contracts to foreign merchants and non-crown merchant ships within Portugal because they didn't have enough ships between the Americas and Asia. Spain did the same thing. The Dutch and English also did the same thing. There was never enough crown owned ships.

But they still sought BRITISH primacy.

Kek, yet I'm still smarter than you mutt. Better educated hadhave better opportunities than you and probably have a better life than you do. Since Ik it pisses you off. You wish I'm pale af

That's hardly a sound comparison, since prisons are not something arbitrary imposed on someone, while your slavery justification is based solely on racial factors, so things beyond a human's control.

Spanish merchants sometimes got a special permit to purchase from Angola and sell in their colonies, and if you said most of these merchants were kikes I'll agree.

But intra-Portuguese trade was very different.

Mate, when we say that a ship sailed under the Portuguese flag, it doesn't mean it was owned by the king, it's just a regular merchant ship run by a Portuguese.

Portugal had more than enough of these.

In most instances, European colonizers did not pay for the land they seized in Africa; they primarily took land through force, often using military power to dispossess indigenous populations. While there were some instances of treaties or token payments, outright theft and violence were the predominant methods of acquiring land for colonial control.

Explain to me how immigrants coming to Europe is any way like colonization which involves land theft.

Black elites

Good joke

British primacy in sense of Britain dominating other countries, not British people doing that necessary. They did not really care what ethnicity they ruled over. Which is why they are so eager to accept immigrants today.

Slavery is not always based on race, tho.

300 years

200 years (after the fall of the Hispanic Empire)

the West

Don't confuse WESTERN (Hispanic-Latino-Hellenic) CIVILIZATION with barbaric whites which NEVER created an empire and have to steal their history from others.

I've actually done business in your country. Got mugged in rio. but overall I liked brazil.we also have a few of your country man here. The ones I've met are pretty awesome. You can ask venezuelans when they were passing through. They'll probably tell you that the nicest people are Hondurans. Most behaved. Not like the stuff you have in sa

Based Brazil

Until you take up arms you’re just a talking little bitch.
Your all fucked should have suck ze Donald’s old wrinkly cock and became a state.

They have that reputation all around. They paint everyone as criminals yet most of their expats are fucking degenerates

But intra-Portuguese trade was very different.

Some of the most dominant merchants in the early pretransatlantic Portuguese trade were literal Spanish Sephardis. Again you are ignoring that these were the dominant and common merchants involved in the trade wherever it went and pretend it was only the US trade that was dominated by jews. ALL slave trade was dominated by jewish merchants. In Portugal, Spain, Netherlands, England, and the USA. The dominant early jews were all of Sephardi stock.

Mate, when we say that a ship sailed under the Portuguese flag, it doesn't mean it was owned by the king, it's just a regular merchant ship run by a Portuguese.

Yes as I already said. And among these contracted merchant ships were a whole bunch of foreigners and foreign ships along with jewish merchants.

Portugal had more than enough of these.

It had perpetual need of more ships. Especially as the spice trade picked up, which it eventually lost to the Dutch.

I cannot tell why, and I'm not trying to imply some sort of superiority, but the way culture developed here is quite different from Spanish America.

How Brazil was never really a colony but a regular part of Portugal, how there was no war of independency, instead the king had two sons and put each in half of the empire, how Brazil kept being one piece and generally avoided wars (except for Paraguay)... it's proper.

None of that is true, as your posts itt have made very clear, brown thing.

I'm inclined to believe that Guatemala Salvador Honduras and Nicaragua have mostly niggers or nigger mutts

I know the few American tourists I've met were astonishing annoying. It was a good thing the first thing our generals did after the US helped them in a coup was to sign a friendship treat with the USSR.

It had perpetual need of more ships. Especially as the spice trade picked up, which it eventually lost to the Dutch.

It lacked some long range ships, but for the relative ship trip between Africa and Brazil, the lower range fleet was more than enough.

Nazis supporting colonialism damn like at least change the flag to black liberation or something.
you fed glow niggers secretly poos even for feds this is sloppy work seriously how is the heather in Tel Aviv?

Portugal perpetually had need of more ships. This same thing also happened to the Dutch, the Spanish, and the English. Leading to the centuries long privateer wars and what have you. Before the privateer wars the need was met with merchant ships from various backgrounds and origins. And the bulk of the total fleet was composed of these ships.

They brought you to the west because they know that you all have this seething low IQ resentment for whites. Shit's fucked enjoy being a useful idiot for those who wish to enslave the entirety of mankind yourself included.

I'm not advocating for slavery to be arbitrarily imposed onto someone either.

Portugal perpetually needed certain types of ships, it had more than enough low range cogs and merchantmen.

Also, do you realize that trade with American didn't use many ships until the mid 1800s, right?

Guatemala, Salvador, Honduras and Nicaragua

Lots of natives, any country with a large native population will generally lack blacks, and the other way around. Slaves were not exactly cheap to import.

There were never enough trade ships, which were in more demand than military ships. In the Dutch and British wars it was the same story, except they also had massive military armadas. The French came into the imperial scene later but when they did they also fielded massive fleets. All of these countries fleets were largely composed of national and foreign operating merchant fleets.

We didn't have a revolution either. Central América basically has 2 independence. From Spain and México. We didn't fire a single shot. But honestly I didn't find it that hard to work with you guys. The bureaucracy in my country is a fucking pain.

Importexport

Colonization would imply that there are some sort of raw materials they are eager to extract etc.
I support reversing you back to where you came from.

Kek, keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

before anglos came it was muzzies controlling parts of india
Poojeets have the same delusional mind as niggers
Anglos actually unified their shithole

Mestizo do a fucking search gypsies

It's quite funny that this system of only Portuguese merchants on Portuguese ships being allowed to trade in Brazil more or less live to this day. Our economy never became open to trade, to this very day we have +100% tariffs in virtually all goods from virtually all countries.

The bureaucracy in my country is a fucking pain.

Same, and it's a beast so large it's impossible to move, I myself am a public work, it's... something you get used to.

It's an unjustifiable war crime and anyone who says different is a genocide apologist.

bro really thinks he can just genocide Whites with impunity, just because the system brings out the big guns whenever they riot

White zoomers want to strangle you faggots as much as they do the libshit boomers who voted Carney, btw

The Anglos actually oversaw the destruction of islam in india, the mudslimes did what they always do and got uppity and killed some Anglos and the Anglos turned around and massacred the population and subjagated them so fiercly that most of the population ended up converting within decades. The bangladeshis and pakistanis were the left overs.

nah. just stay home. to destroy those attacked you, thats fine tho

stabbing our children and raping our women is "seeking a better life"

you faggots have shown your true colours about this shit time and again; don't EVEN start with that

I once met a Canadian that was so stupid I couldn't believe. He refused to drink bottled water because they told him not to. Yet he drank only sodas that are bottled inhe same plants. My country depends to much on the US. They planted corruption here. The roots run deep, I don't think I'll see change in my life time. But I still love my country

Muslims never had large populations in India, usually only the nobles of the Muslim kingdoms in India were Muslim.

Those ships were mostly merchant ships operating under the portuguese flag. The majority of them weren't even built in Portugal, most of them came from Spain.

El salvador basically has no black's

GO HOME SHITSKIN

This is historical revisionism. The most populous areas of india were almost entirely islamic before their revolts against the british. The Anglos recorded massacring over a hundred thousand islamic poos at one point where many begged to spared in many of the large cities.

A Jew

calling fucking anyone else "a cancer"

self-awareness isn't the strong suit of the Jew, for he'd kill himself if he had any semblance of it

Most merchant ships under the Portuguese flags were built in Brazil, until 1822.

It's like they think they are in some magic land. Luckily for me Brazil is large, has a massive language barrier (no one speaks English), and out diplomacy is strangely competent, this keeps the mutts away.

To this day I'm amazed we created BRICS and managed to pigback PRC.

Sure, but so will be the inevitable retaliation. I don't have any sympathy for cuckolds whining about demographic replacement yet refusing to take action, tho.

That's stat on Nicaragua is wrong tho they do have blacks, so does Costa Rica and Guatemala. But the one in Guatemala is really small.

Before roughly 1600 the majority of the international trade fleet was built in Europe.

The strong should conquer the weak. Simple as

Yes

And between mid 1600s and 1822, most of the Portuguese trade fleet was built in Brazil. Do you realize that we were for many purposes the core of the Portuguese empire, right? To the point that king ruled from here in the decades before separation.

I'll not post this anymore.

I am not exactly brown. Slavic.

Sometimes I want to kill the public workers here. They make shit difficult to get a bribe. I have a shit ton of death threats since I don't play those faggot games. Not saying you do the same. But yeah that's the reality in these countries

You’re both mutts though lol

White zoomers being destitute and unable to find a job or start a family is "karma"

self-righteous faggots like you deserve to be shot

I wish we had the same luck. A shit ton of people speak English here. In some part's it's the native language since part of the country was also a British colony

You're not getting the point that all of the trade before the portuguese empire faltered to the Dutch and British empires in asia, was largely conducted by European merchant ships. And the people in power in brazil before it became a universal shithole, were Europeans not slave and peasant class caste like you.

Its a sort of collective responsibility. Might not be entirely fair, but this is how the world functions.

I work in the upper ranks, not directly with the public, thank God.

Also, what you work with so you ended up doing business in Brazil, it's not usual for this to happen.

Brazil is today was it always was, many, if not most of the people in power today can trade their family lines all the way back to the kingdom of Portugal nobility.

This is part of the reason why we never had a nigger as a president, while you had.

No worries bro, just informing you. I have been to many parts of those countries. So you get an idea of the population. I think of all of latin America Panamá is the most diverse. I've met pretty cool people there

Is reverse colonization justified?

We brought them written languages, roads, modern medicine, agriculture, etc.
They're mostly bringing in crime back.

But if you want to talk about history, why stop there and not include the slavery and imperialism Arab ran for hundreds of years?

reminder to all you self-righteous brown faggots that if karma worked the way you think it does with Whites being genocided, then the jews would have gone extinct JUST for what they did to Jesus

colonization implies improvement.

Personally, I really liked China of all places, somehow it made me feel at home. It's weird, but most people working in diplomacy agree that it's like meeting a distant cousin.

Really disliked Australia and NZ.

obviously not. niggers don't bring anything of value

Anyone else find it amusing when literal mongrels use mutt as an insult? It’s a projection of their inferiority complex.

brownie dislikes two best countries on the planet

thats good, don't come back

I'm in the import export business. My dealings in Brazil were mostly agricultural like agro chemicals and veterinary medicine. I'm not just in that industry. I do business in many places with different industries. EU, US (but since the Palestine genocide almost moved away completely). China, some in latin America and a few others in Asia

Anyway, this liberal world order is coming to an end and when it does most non-Whites will be dead by disease, war, and famine.

Haven't been to Australia or nz. What I don't like about most Chinese they tend to be rude.

Interesting
If they have 80 iq I wonder how shitholes like Haiti score

A bunch of dumb, lazy and socially retarded people who have massively inflated egos because their natural resource based economy (aka Saudi Arabia, but coal and iron) let them be somehow rich.

I'd rather have to work with people from Central African than with these cunts.

I'm in the import export business.

Now I get why you hate government workers so much, kek.

What I don't like about most Chinese they tend to be rude.

They are rude, but for some reason I get along with them extremely well, it's really weird people here tend to get along with them, I don't think any other people actually like the Chinese.

I don't know what memeflag you have but I assume you're from one of those nigger shit holes i mentioned

To add to this since the thread will soon die, I work with diplomacy, and our (diplomats and government officials) relation with them (diplomats and government officials) is just great for no reason at all. Chinese tend to be universally disliked, with good reasons, but they never fail to tell how it's enjoyable to be stationed here.

Typical Anglo
Actually, Africans are pretty based and nice. Kek, I also work with diplomats some are in family. Nice talking to you anon

Same, it's always good to met someone pleasant in Anon Babble.

Not directly anymore but I do attend a lot of diplomatic thing's and have worked in a consulate

It is

I'd rather have to work with people from Central African than with these cunts.

Kek at anon here being such delusional macaco

Feel officially welcome to visit Brazil whenever you want, there should only be some many diplomatics in Ilha de Paquetá if you ever visit Rio.

that sounds like retard speak for "white were winning and expanding, but now are losing and contracting"

Yellow and black people have each had their turn conquering europe and each other over human history, stop being a faggot racist who things white people are the only ones to have conquered anything ever.

He was already mugged in Brazil lol

It happens, it's mean to say this, but police has more what to do, than looking after foreigners.

Thanks bro you are also welcome in Honduras

And maybe I'll visit the island one day. I've only been on the main land

It's comfy, a bit of the 18th century left behind.

I've been mugged in the US too

Seems that way. If you ever come here. Visit la ceiba, Trujillo and utila. The big cities are meh. Unless you plann doing business

No, you are lying.

Trujillo looks classy

When you're being invited and paid- it's not colonisation, it's domestic terrorism on the other side.

If you want to disconnect from the world it's the place to go. But their isn't much to their besides the beach and food. It has s lot of history