COMFY

north korea is better at everything than everyone else

south america is safe yet again

The opponent builds nukes
The only way to survive is to build your own.

inherit the Earth

They might not be directly hit by nukes, but they will inherit a nuclear winter, and that will do a number on the Amazon rainforest and all the crops they grow down there. I'm not saying some wouldn't survive, but most even there would probably die just from that nuclear winter and the ensuing famine. But for those that do make it, eventually the nuclear winter will clear up and life can resume. But a lot of species would probably become extinct so things would never be quite the same ever again.

B-But Israel is our greatest ally!

Imagine if we did that

They would have killed us during nixon

Not just that. They made them and tested them on their own.
The amount of data stolen and not understood is very low.

Had to starve their people for a decade or two to get there, but there is always a price for excellence.

The entire NK missile program was Russian and Chinese, specifically Russian because the entire Chinese missile program was also from Russia. The Iranian also got their missile tech from Russia. But the Norks did a good job at developing their own nuke infrastructure on their own largely. The NK missiles that have that extreme range (the same as US missiles) are their most recent ones and the range is only implied or estimated. They don't have a large amount of them with those ranges. Neither do the Chinese. The Iranians also adapted some advanced missile recently but their ranges are on average much lower than the best koreans missiles. It was also acknowledged publicly recently that Russia gave nukes to NK recently in some strategic trade.

If you were going to play as a country that wasn't aligned with jewish banking, the absolute top country to pick is Best Korea. Hands down. Iran is strong but its too close to israel to be comfortably stable.

Chad South America and most of Antarctica

I call dibs on paraguayan women, but only the ones that look like this.

shows countries which don't have nuclear weapons in the chart

What kind of retardation is this?

WW3 is going to happen because of some third-world shitholes that have been at it for thousands of years are throwing another hissy fit for the Nth time

lol, fuck off

A lot of the rich have built bunkers in south/central america. The first generation would have to live underground for many decades. They have hydroponics, animals, storable foods, water. Some of the corporations have literally built underground cities. Like Sony for example is rumored to have one somewhere. South/Central America is perfect. Not that many people go there and everyone is cooperative. They have them in Europe also.

What's your country like? I am thinking about visiting. It looks peaceful there

It’s better to be dead than live in Latinx America.

I remember the international feces in the ocean map. Shit from India goes around the Cape of Good Hope and across the Atlantic Ocean. It will reach South America

Didn't they 2 already fight a war after getting nukes and none used them?
Sounds like another nothinburger in the making for me

Boring, depressing. Weather's nice. Latin american salaries with european prices. Castizo majority. Great meat, most of it is pasture raised. Dairy culture is surprisingly shit, stuff like raw milk is illegal to sell on regular stores. The country is also very empty, it's bigger than England yet has less than 10% the population, and keep in mind this isn't because of some unlivable terrain, the whole country is basically a gigantic green plain.
That enough? There's prob more to say but it's 1:21 and I'm vewy sweepy

South America is not a good location during a magnetic pole shift however or to live in general during peace or otherwise. And most of the bunkers are in the northern hemisphere. Both Russia and the US built massive underground networks, bunkers, and command and control centers.

North Korea doesn't have that sort of range. That's total bullshit.

Lol

The country had no choice after the US made clear they wouldn't respect their borders

Gave some balance to the region it sure lacked but as everything is room for abuse

Back to austherity what you call starving them is just acting noble and not scamming foreigns for money just because they have nukes

Mate, look at my flag, if temperature drops by 30c (86f), we'll still be able to easily farm, Argentina would be fucked.

The population of Latinx America has ballooned to such a large size as a consequence of globalization. In the event that international shipping end there would be famine and most of them would become cannibals, again.

magnetic pole shift

what exactly is going to cause a magnetic pole shift? Sounds like horse shit to me. I would read about that along side a hole in the north pole where aliens live

government dumbs

Yeah thats for continuity of government/military. Honestly those were built so long ago that most of the upper echelon wouldn't want to live in them. The Russians have the details on all of those thanks to Aldrich Aims and Robert Hanssen. North America is going to be completely fucking leveled when it happens. The dumbs will be their primary targets.

The wealthy invested in their own escape. And its likely some of the government will end up there too. South America is perfect. And you can bet your ass they don't want anyone knowing about it.

MIC will never tell you it's because of the magnetic field anomaly

GG

What does an Australian know about anything?

Look up the south atlantic magnetic anomaly. It is part of the shift. Also latin america is in general the most violent locations in the world, more so than even africa.

Also latin america is in general the most violent locations in the world.

They aren't worried about that at all. Zero fucks given.

Look up the south atlantic magnetic anomaly.

yeah like I said horse shit. The earth is hollow and grey aliens live in the center with a mini sun and reversed gravity.

All of the big DUMBs are in the US and Russia. In ancient solar catastrophes all of the underground cities were in the mediterranean, Malta, Egypt, Turkey.

North Korea put a nuke on a satellite.

The whole point of having an underground nuclear safe city would rely on your adversaries not knowing about them. The DUMBS the North America were leaked by spies during the cold war. They are completely useless now. Everyone knows about them and the locations.

With modern satellites any major country knows about this sort of thing.

You sweet retards still falling for cold war psyops? Nukes are fake and gay.
You should be scared shitless of 6g and smart grids tho.
bitchute.com/video/bOO8PGgN7Z2e/

oh really? Thats interesting. I didn't know it was impossible to hide from satellites.

Where are the ranges for us, Russia, China, UK and France?

Every country will have nukes within the next two decades.

It doesn't matter who knows about them retard. They are nuke proof, more nuke proof than Cheyenne mountain. And their entrances are all guarded and the bunkers are all connected. The ones in Pennsylvania and Arizona have nuke proof underground railroad connections. Denver airport has a massive underground area that leads to larger networks in the Rockies. The DUMBs are also where the orbs of light appear to come from in many UFO sightings.

It used to be until a decade ago, today ground penetrating radar (gpr) has reached the point where it can detect large structures from orbit.

Maybe a particularly deep structure would require something closer than a satellite, like a very large balloon.

Nothing is really nuke-proof, it's not hard to just irradiate it with cesium.

I'm already aware of those conspiracy theories but the bigger one that has more evidence is that we actually live in a sim and the creators may have in part created it for their pleasure even at our expense.

Obviously false. And you just demonstrated your lack of knowledge of how nukes are built. Its not the how its the materials. You need to enrich uranium. This is part of the reason the superpowers fight over locations that have rare earth materials.

Uranium is quite common and not a rare-earth, Brazil has a dozen Uranium deposits and we sell it to Iran and DPRK.

Cheyenne mountain is built to be literally nuke proof. The seismic and aerial pressure waves are what destroy surface structures along with million degree heat. The radiation from conventional nukes fades to livable levels within months. Cobalt nukes are the real bunker apocalypse nukes.

Why did we let two third world countries have nukes again?

india literally got them from pirating your flags tech.

The only part of Australia that's worth nuking is Melbourne. Please.

Cheyenne mountain is built to be literally nuke proof.

They are nuke resistant, just like a tank is generally resistant to explosions. But a major Soviet warhead (RDS-220) would crack it open.

Also, thanks, it's Cobalt, not Cesium.

No retard. The bunker is 2 miles into a mountain laterally and is nuke proof to megaton class explosions within 10 miles. And the back exits are also survivable even in a direct hit on the mountain. And Cheyenne is the simplest and oldest DUMB in the US. Nukes actually are not as physically destructive as you think. Skyscrapers and tiny hills deflect a huge portion of the blast. This was observed in Nagasaki and Hiroshima and there were survivors at ground zero under 3 ft of cement.

Be Mexican

Do nothing

We actually get hit

why?

is that the fart cloud produced by india?

Feels good

Sim

Thats just the materialist/atheistic cope of the ((rationalists)).
Nukes and transhumanism are copes of the elite in yearning to be the Demigods/titans of the bronze, silver and golden age. When the real Elites could wipe out millions of normies while bored.
They think that with mundane and obsolete silicon technology, they can become the Demigods of the Iron Age.

Cheyenne mountain is an older installation, it was built inside the mountain, not under it. The tunnels leading to the shelter are only have one side turn. It can be cracked open with a hundred Mt warhead, such as a full configuration RDS-220.

Later shelters are better built.

Has there been any proof that Jewish missiles even go anywhere beyond their kebab cesspool.

missile can somehow reach all of NA but none of SA.

Yeah that's not how this works.

I would consider it rare earth if you have to buy it from a south american country. South America is just rich with all of that stuff. Oil too. Thats another thing the elite don't really like people talking about. They focus on the middle east when South America could give them 100x what they could in energy and natural resources.

Even still they need to enrich it. Thats not a simple process and they would need to hide it from the rest of the world. North Korea has nothing its bullshit. They can barely build a functional rocket. Same with Iran. Its more than meets the eye. Small republics fail to build it due to lack of resources. They are always 50 years behind in the tech. Which basically makes whatever they come up with useless.

The sim is actually immaterial. Everything about your perception of reality is falsifiable, this also goes back into Platonism and Godel's incopletedness theories. But the sim evidence didn't become fully obvious until we invented computers and the internet, now we observe functions that we would use to conserve memory and introduce novelty and control random variables in the tangible study of physics and the human mind and neurons. Your bioelectricity is literally light, and your brain and body and sensory inputs all come from interactions of light/electricity.

Iran didn't have to buy from Brazil because Uranium ore is rare, it brought from Brazil because it lacked the tech to refine Uranium ore into usable materials, we also sold the refining methods and the centrifugues to Iran and DPRK.

It laterally extends into the mountain and has back exits. Even the tsar bomba would not take it out in an aerial burst and the most physically destructive nukes are aerial bursts not direct ground hits. And the DUMBs on the east coast and in Arizona are more than 3 miles deep even on flat terrain. We have a civilian mine/research station 8 miles underground in South Dakota. Nothing will touch those except for mag 8 and 9 quakes which release millions of megatons of TNT equivalent of energy.

Agreed, later shelters are far more resistant, a direct ground does cause a lot more damage against underground targets than an aerial detonation. This is why both the US and the USSR (probably PRC) have warheads that can dig quite deep into the ground before detonating, like the US B83.

Also as a curiosity, there's no upper limit to how high the yield of a nuclear weapon can be.

spbp

Sure they have nukes. But realistically, how many of them work? Like you know Russia is a complete shitshow and probably half their shit won't even launch.

i'm blown away by north korea's technological superiority.

you'd be dead though, dumbass

The ground detonations have weak seismic effects compared to natural earth quakes. The Titan missile launcher silos were also all seismically isolated facilities, all newer DUMBs would also have that tech as well. And while you can scale a nuke up quite massively it become completely impractical to deliver above a certain size. The 9 megaton Titans already took massive ICBMs. The tsar bomba would not have been able to be launched on an ICBM at the time of its inception. And the cobalt bomb would be so much more catastrophic to life on Earth than any conventional or hydrogen bomb that if it was created and attatched to a 1-3 megaton device and detonated hundreds or thousands of miles above a continent, all life on that continent would get a lethal dose within a few months, depending on winds.

all newer DUMBs would also have that tech as well.

That's why I'm talking about that specific ancient shelter, due to specific design choices, it could be cracked by a full configuration RDS-220, part of the reason why it was abandoned.

Also, by using submarine delivery means, it should be possible to effectively field extremely large warheads against some targets, not that there's a purpose to do this.

We should have listened

would have to live underground for many decades

implying burgerland won't nuke us for not taking a side

Small price to pay for Humanity's golden future

The issue is the rsd 220 could not be delivered to target and the Russians only made 2 at the most. The more common megaton soviet and US nukes would not be able to even take out Cheyenne. And even the rsd 220 would not be able to take out Cheyenne except in a very specific angle and distance to detonation. The US has built dozens of DUMBs since Cheyenne.

Another problem with the wartime use of nukes along a very large frontline is that the total area of the frontline measuring in thousands of miles would be so large that even if you shotgun detonated 2,000 nukes across an area roughly 500,000-1,000,000 sq mi, there would be military targets that survive, and most of the front would actually remain perfectly intact.

We have 320 cities with more than 100k people, how many warheads the US will waste on us?

The submarine have way less capacity for larger nukes than the land based ICBMs. The advantage subs have is a "fuck you" clandestine second strike or first strike with MIRVs.

expert on war

i don’t think.
:)

If you launched every convention nuke in the world at literally any mega country, every single megacountry would survive. There are too many cities and targets and the total detsuctive potential of nukes is much much lower than people think. Unless you launch cobalt nukes.

Hopefully one in Brasília and another one in Rio.

Indeed, this is why strategic nuclear weapons are meant to destroy the enemy society, not each individual military force.

I'm not talking about SLBMs, I'm talking about autonomous submarine vehicles, think of Russia's Poseidon (couldn't name a US equivalent).

The peak Soviet arsenal was more than enough to destroy every single US town with 2.5k people or more.

Brazil is large, has many population centers distant from each other, and is not a high priority target, we have absolutely massive farming capacity, with a hot climate and lots of water.

Chances are we'd have the most capacity left after a nuclear war, which is quite funny.

retards kill most of the world

the world is inherited by central and south america

Once the bombs have finished dropping and all western countries have been annihilated, they’ll finally take Hitler’s brain out of cryostasis and awaken him in Boston Dynamics robot

Poosting in India thread sar

Why is indias range so large ? Do they sell weapons to Americans ?

The peak Soviet arsenal was more than enough to destroy every single US town with 2.5k people or more.

Nope. You have to hit the largest cities with tens of nukes to totally destroy them. The urban area of los angels measures more than 12,000 sq miles and would require literally hundreds of nukes to physically destroy. And for many decades the US had more nukes than Russia and the US has built more nukes in total in history. We still have 100 civilian reactors active now.

Underwater nukes have even more limited applications than SLBMs and ICBMs. They can only partially destroy ports.

Nuclear warfare is largely psychological, it is not capable of destroying the world let alone a single megacountry. The targeted megacountry would survive. The only truly apocalyptic nuclear device is a megaton cobalt device.

North Korea has the best range? Lmao

Underwater nukes have even more limited applications than SLBMs and ICBMs. They can only partially destroy ports.

To destroy a city instead of a port is a matter of yield, a UUV does not have a yield limit. It should be possible.

Nuclear warfare is largely psychological, it is not capable of destroying the world let alone a single megacountry. The targeted megacountry would survive. The only truly apocalyptic nuclear device is a megaton cobalt device.

It's about who is left with more capacity to finish the conventional war afterward, personally I'd not bet in the US during the Cold War, today it's hard to say.

Sanpaku

The US has more cities that are just as spread out. It is as survivable as Brazil in a total nuclear war. Canada is too urban and not spread out enough and so is Australia, while Russia is about the same level as survivability as the US and Brazil except it has a slight population bias in its west. Also a lot of Americans still have nuclear bunkers on their properties. The US has by far done the most research on this stuff.

The UUV is more limited in yield than an ICBM. And its blast would be largely deflected by the port. Again all this shit has been studied for 80 years by the US. We detonated 1,000 nukes in Nevada and more in the Pacific doing studies on this.

It is as survivable as Brazil in a total nuclear war.

Unlike the US, Russia, China, Australia, Canada... Brazil is a very low priority target.

The US has by far done the most research on this stuff.

I'm not sure, all I know is that you have done far more boasting than anyone else. When do you think you'll get proper ICBMs? Your Minutemen III are almost legally old to retire, if they were citizens.

The UUV is more limited in yield than an ICBM.

Why would it be?

Anon pls we all know that infraestructure can't take a fire let alone a megaton

youtube.com/watch?v=-KFH--_cdiI&t=83s

Juan Posadas was a genius, apologize.

Texas, ha ha ha ha

we let pajeets have nukes

we are so unbelievably fucked

Australia, Canada

not low priority targets

COMFY mode activated.

You're in Texas so you're in range dumbass

NATO

Australia, Canada

Both are American satellite states housing US strategic installations, like NORAD early warning system, strategic bomber bases, ICBM sites...

South Americans would be really stupid if they don't kill these fuckers on sight and then pillage their bunkers

How do you even find anons to have fun with during the apocalypse?

True. RIP leafland and mateland, I guess.

Electrical infrastructure is easy to rebuild. The DUMBs literally also have their own separate grids. And we store backup transformers in secure locations. Physical infrastructure would be barely effected.

The UUV is a submarine vehicle that is more reliant on size constrictions than ICBMs and SLBMs if it wants to avoid detection coming in to the port. Also the maximum yield warheads fielded by the US and Russia today are all only kiloton class. And again the usefulness of nuke torpedoes is generally retarded and inefficient. The US studied nuke torpedoes back in the 50s. Most of the jargon and news articles you see is literal BS fear mongering or retarded writers that completely misunderstand the science and methodology behind nukes.

I'm diggin through my old k nuke stuff now. But 100% in a full exhange the USA and Russia would both survive.

No

Not because you can you should, air defenses do better this days than figther jets costing a fraction, same goes for icbms vs interceptors

They are small

A Russian Status-6 has a loaded mass of 100 metric tons, more than half of it as usable cargo. It's not some US nuclear torpedo from the 50s.

You tsar bombs was fake right? It was just a standard 15mt bomb but cleverly played to appear 50mt.

Fucking retard lmao. Do you mean 100 megatons? Lmao.

The average yield in the Russian arsenal is roughly 500kt. Same for the US at about 400kt. Most historical Russian nukes ended up powering American homes after the USSR fell.

No, you boasting fuck, I mean it weights 100 tons when loaded, more than half of it being effective cargo.

It can carry a couple of RDS-220, or a single larger device.

If your head was not so stuck in American's glorious arsenal from half a century ago, you wouldn't be saying so much crap.

It was probably more just 10 tons Soviets never achieved higher at that time while Americans had 30mt Soviets faked the 50 mt to appear as though they had an advantage

The reports from Europe indicate that it was in fact between 30-50 mt. The thing is they only built one or two and it could never be attatched to an ICBM because of weight restrictions. The Russians also later confirmed through indirect reports that they massively iiradiated a huge area of Siberia in the Kyshtym disaster. Most Siberian rivers are radiologically polluted from soviet retardation or simple apathy. The ydidnt admit chernobyl right away either but it was first detected in Sweden.

Best Korea.

Why anon?

Why they can't have nice things?

Because the fuckers don't let us have nice things?

Nukes aren't real. Japan had no radiation damage. Stone buildings still stood at ground zero.

You are a retard when it comes to understanding nukes. Remember how the Russians also said that a UUV nuke would cause a tsunami and wipe out Australia? You believed the BS. A megaton class UUV can barely take out a port, not even the city attached to it. 90% of the blast force is directed away from the target in a submarine detonation.

Soviets are notorious for rewriting history and the Tsar Bomb is just another example of it. I mean they turned Lenin into a god when he was just your average intellectual educated in the west but that was just godly at the time in Russia so he essentially grifted his way to the top. He’s less revolutionary and than Marx and Marx is a dumbass

A full configuration RDS-220 detonated nearby a coastal city will destroy much of the city, to not talk about larger devices.

True can confirm. It was a "size matters" experiment but the tsar bombs were impractical. The delivery of a bunch of smaller nuclear weapons is what is important. It would be cool though if they still had 1 or 2 of them and were able to detonate. It would pretty much destroy a particular region. And the wind might carry the radiation across the ocean.

Alpha and gamma radiation are short lived products, they spike at detonation and fade to liveable levels within 6 months. The super long half life products are cobalt nukes.

The rsd 220 was the largest class of device ever concieved and again russia only built 1 or 2 and had no way to deliver them. The rsd 220 is jargon for the tsar bomba.

Very large warheads fit some niche usages, such as modern UUV (2M39), or static nuclear devices (doom day's device).

Even with 500kt MIRVs, 200 strikes would not even completely take out Los Angeles. Most people cannot comprehend this.

Mate, if your head was not stuck in the glorious 70s, where the US nuclear arsenal, "once great, but now ancient" is stuck, you'd know that is having been possible to simulate nuclear devices on computers for a few decades already.

I got it, in the good and old days the US did more than 1000 tests, but the US better not rely on people like, stuck in nostalgia, or you better also bring some pikes and muskets to WW3.

What did I miss? My father passed a week ago and we are still reeling and trying to navigate this he'll, so k haven't been on Anon Babble much.

So did lead lined refrigerators is a bomb and a blast not a power drill

Even dynamite on top of a rock don't break it you need to make a whole in it and place the explosive

The US has the most advanced missiles delivery systems still to this day. The whole hypersonic BS has never materialized in tests. No one has the tech to intercept a terminal stage standard MIRV package. You also don't understand propaganda from science and you can right now go use a US test simulator that will show you how small nuclear explosions actually are in comparison with cities. 200 500kt detonations in LA would not destroy LA, million of people would be fine. UUVs and artileery nukes are the most gorilla retarded inefficient uses of nukes and we already tested those before the soviets. The russians literally hyped up one of their UUVs with a CGI video of a tsunami wiping out Australia and retards like you believe.

You’re delusional
The fire storm from one would burn most of LA , Jew shill

scared bruce?

Nuke ranges

Not showing the US and Russia.

Don't worry South-America fags, you're in it with the rest of us.

The US has the most advanced missiles delivery systems still to this day.

No it has not, the US had the most advanced missiles' delivery systems 50 years ago when the Minuteman III was first launched, what the US has today is a lot of hubris and nostalgia filled idiots like you, who think that because once upon a time, when Hillary looked like this the US was ahead, it must still be ahead despite half a century of more of complete complacency.

Specialists like you are the reason why your conventional forces cannot win any conventional or proxy war, and God have mercy on the US if your nuclear forces are kept by idiots like you.

Wrong. The maximum aerial pressure blast does not exceed 200% of the physical destruction zone and buildings and hills deafen the waves. The bigger issue would be fallout but local winds in LA would carry the majority of the radiation away within hours.

local winds in LA would carry the majority of the radiation away within hours.

lmao retard

Trident IIs and the current land based ICBMs cannot be countered at half trajectory. The Tridents specifically shotgun MIRVs at 22,000 MPH in the terminal phase. Likewise the only other country that even remotely has this capability is Russia and the majority of their missiles are less advanced than the Tridents. The UK also fields a small number of Trident MIRVs.

The bush administration decided to focus on counter icbm technology. And Russia/China focused on better missiles.

You don't understand that alpha and gamma radiation adheres to atmospheric particulates. This is what "radiation" actually is. It is not some glowing zone that magically appears. It is radioactive atomic energy that blasts out from the detonation in all directions, mostly upwards, and adheres to particulates and falls out. This is what fallout is. And again a 500kt nuke is only destroying a radius of roughly 1,500 feet at most.

A more advanced weapon will burst in the air, so as to kick up less radioactive dust and cause less environmental damage, while maximizing human casualties.
A "less advanced weapon" will land on the ground, kick up the maximum amount of radioactive dust, and poison the earth for decades to come. Even better, if they are uncertain of their ability to hit a precise target, they'll use a bigger bomb, which will lift the radioactive dust into the jetstream and poison the world.

Let me boast about how the venerable Trident II, from 1983, that is plain inferior the the 1973 Minuteman II is actually better than anything anyone else has based purely on by wishes for the US to be number 1

Trident II are not worth comparing with RS-28 or DF-41, they are more or less on part with late Soviet missiles such as R-36, but inferior in most regards.

This is assuming the American missile arsenal is actually well kept, unlike its conventional forces. Something I doubt.

RIP to your dad, bless his soul.

Precision Strike by India on terrorist spots over many cities in Pakistan

Conventional and hydrogen bombs primarily only emit short lived alpha and gamma radiation. You can literally walk up to the crater after 6 months and be fine.

The Bush administration focused on paying contractors for systems that do not exist, it has been 25 years, a quarter of a century, and we are still waiting for the Millennium Challenge exercise airborne AD lasers.

tumor days

alpha and gamma radiation adheres to atmospheric particulates.

it ionizes the dirt, dust, and particulates on the ground, which causes a huge assembly line of radioactive isotopes from Radon to Thorium, to Radium.

Australia has only a few US sites:
Pine Gap - NSA satellite downlink after overflying Russia and China in the middle of nowhere near Alice Springs
Harold Holt - USN ULF submarine radio comms array - on WA coast near Exmouth miles from anywhere.

both are isolated and if nuked nobody in the rest of the country would even notice they were gone.

Darwin - B52 reserve airfield for Guam and an annual six-month rotation of 5k USMC troops for training - not a major target

the whole city was wiped out in a cyclone in 1975 and was rebuilt in about 5years, again nothing essential

HMAS Stirling - RAN sub base and possible USN sub re-arming base as it has a torpedo facility for Mk48s - south of Perth WA

it would be noticed, but is isolated on an island away from the city

Go ahead.
Nothing of value would be lost.
Actually, if you can also spare a few extras to nuke Canberra Melbourne and Sydney, the rest of the country would appreciate it.

This map makes zero fucking sense.

No one on Earth can stop tridents at half trajectory. The best russian equivalents are literally only on par. And the US has most of its nukes in tridents that can launch from anywhere in the ocean.

Yeah I was reading about this recently. The amount of radiation diminishes by 10 to 1 if the nuke doesn't hit the ground. Or something like that.

Actually, if you can also spare a few extras to nuke Canberra Melbourne and Sydney, the rest of the country would appreciate it.

And it'd probably happen, Australia is a US satellite state in the end of the day. I've a cousin living in Sidney, he tells me he cannot wait to save some more money and leave that shithole.

They used to hold nuclear shows. They'd set up stands in the desert and people could sit there and watch nuclear explosions, like a theme park. They didn't understand fallout, so when the white ashy dust fell upon the bleachers they just thought it was part of the party.
They didn't live long after that.

So you're telling me that Sopa de Macaco will be the cuisine of the globe when aliens visit in 3000 AD?

Part of me suspects North Korea is literally heaven on earth.

It seems unlikely, but Jews tell me it’s bad so I just have to guess the opposite.

All conventional radiation products that will kill you in hours or days are literally gone in weeks. The longer lived products are not capable of killing you painfully. You will at most get cancer 30 years later. The half lives of the primary conventional products are extremely short.

Cobalt nukes however, are extremely long lived. With a half life of over 5 years.

You can airburst high, which will scorch everything in line of sight. That can burn out a huge area.
Or you can airburst low, so the pressure wave falls with gravity and pushes out a larger area.
Or you can be Russia and not really have such precision, and just burst on the ground. Which kills less people overall, but kicks up the maximum amount of radioactive dust and poisons the land for centuries.

I like how Israel got just enough distance to destroy Europe and just decided that was plenty.

No one on Earth can stop tridents at half trajectory.

Maybe 42 years ago when it was first launched, today the real question is how much effort Russia or China need to stop a Trident II, but how many of these venerable and not very well kept still works.

The best russian equivalents are literally only on par.

Nah, Soviet R-36 were plain better, Russia RS-28 are like comparing a modern MBT with your T-34 equivalent, it's not even fun to compare.

And the US has most of its nukes in tridents that can launch from anywhere in the ocean.

I guess this was impressive when land based ICMBs that can hit by any route were not a thing, 42 years ago, kek.

An entire town in Utah was hit by Nevada test site fallout and everyone was fine. Higher rates of cancer but thats it. In the pacific atoll nuke tests we accidently nuked some japanese fishermen but again most of them survived. Half lives are very important in radiology.

are literally gone in weeks.

The bikini islands has turtles with 2 heads and shit

Its a small Republic. You are probably right. Especially right now I bet its utopia. The jews cherry pick things and blow them out of proportion to make people or countries look bad.

Big plus: no Mexicans to ruin the world either, as they only migrate to White countries.

Fallout is nore real, this is why the US will win

You better pray fallout is not real, when your arsenal is half a century over and ill kept

Tridents are the literal peak. You cannot intercept it past half trajectory, you cannot tell where or when they will be launched because they are SLBMs and the US has the most nuclear subs in the world with active nukes and has 2,000 nuclear bombs in the trident arsenal, all of them are MIRVs. The US also has its land based nukes as a kind of back up, but the SLBM trident literally have the range that the NK nukes supposedly do in the OP but are much better equiped and tested.

Open google earth, retard.
Or enjoy this antipodal map that should illustrate why this is the case.

We update the arsenal and missiles all the time. Trump also literally legalized tactical nukes, which increases the likelihood of their use. Also again, the majority of fallout radiation is gone within 10 half lives (a few weeks). People misunderstand the science behind all this.

Shut up taco bender.

quick rundown?

Trump also literally legalized tactical nukes

Look man, you're talking a bunch of bullshit right now. I think almost everything you've said is complete horseshit. You're just shitting up the thread like a schizophrenic

Trident II are the literal peak.

Tridents were not the peak 42 years ago when they were first launched, ancient and venerable Soviet R-36M2 were plain better back then.

And no matter how many times you scream "but it cannot be stopped", it doesn't make it any more real.

The US nuclear arsenal was once might, when Joe Biden looked like this.

The US also has its land based nukes as a kind of back up

Yes, the even more ancient Minuteman III, that is in many regards superior to the Trident II.

How could the US fall this much?

Louisiana has alligators with two heads.

Shit happens, retard. Stop falling for propaganda

We update the arsenal and missiles all the time.

No you don't, you literally field Trident II and Minuteman III as you did 42 years ago.

The systems in a 2025 Minuteman III is still the same as it was 50 years ago, Trident II are a bit more modern having model 1990 parts.

They'd be beyond lucky to hit the 3rd ring
I'll take my chances and wait 2 weeks

Dude all tridents are from the 90s to the 2010s. They are the peak of US missilry for the reasons I mentioned and Russia also knows this. We have 2000 nuclear bombs underwater in the worlds oceans right now with a range reaching anywhere on Earth. The boomers (nuke sub crews) are all competent white men.

You are a retard. Which is expected for your flag.

Dude, dude, dude, they may be weapons from 83, but the current ones are more recent, so... like... US number one.

Yeah, and if I build a T-34 today, it'll be just as good as a modern MBT.

Your nuclear arsenal is the equivalent of fielding American Civil War hardware in WW2, not completely useless, probably... kek.

If yuu think the most technologically and richest country on Earth doesn't update or maintain its stuff and have eever blacker shit that we see flying over us (orbs). You are a gorilla retard. All of the trident ii's in service date from after the 1990s. Including the british ones. No one can intercept a terminal MIRV, and because of how many we have in the ocean, no one can predict when or where they will strike from.

To be fair, I'm amazed you're not trying to cry that the Hiroc are actually modern and the best missiles in the world today, kek.

Just pathetic.

not buying the norks missile range.

Bring it. I'm tired of the heat. Nukes will cool the world and we'll finally get winter.

Thank u friend. Sleep well

The US is the best of the best, of the best, the most advanced country ever...

So our missiles must be hecking modern right

Your missiles were not the best in 83, your missiles are not the best today.

I just hope your missiles are not as well kept as your BEST of the BEST, modern USA! USA! ships are.

The trident ii's literally are. They aren't some BS propaganda the russians and iranians put out. We actually tell them when we are going to shoot them to keep them from getting spooked.

The soviet missile psyop was proven correct post cold war. There was never a discrepancy and in fact the US had more advanced missiles and more of them.

they are the best... because... they are the best, ok, if oyu don't agree that American misses from 83, that were already worse than Soviet R-36M2 are the BEST of the BEST, then.... bullshit... propaganda... spooked

Your Trindent II are not worth comparing with modern missiles, they were already beaten by the USSR a long time ago.

You do realize that if a nuclear war breaks out the whole world will suffer even if the ICBMs don't make it to your shithole?

it's all a psyop, all data on the R-36M2 is fake, it must be fake... see the Trident is the best, haha

All Soviet data on these was made public in 91, including the internal docs, the R-36M2 was already better than the Trident II by any metric by size.

What if the US and Russia teamed up and just killed everyone else? Like seriously why the fuck not?

Is Argentina still accepting Nazis like back in the day?

Dude America doesn’t even make fucking CNC machine tools anymore (besides HAAS lmao). America can’t make shit. Spain and Italy have more genuine heavy industry capacity

America and Russia combined would have like 10% of the heavy industrial capacity of China.

New Zealand will inherit the Earth

If I remember right, around 18%.

You're NATO, so no.

The trident ii dl5's are literally made in the 2010s.

The russians still hid the Kyshtym incident until a professor made it public. It was also confirmed in 91 that the missile gap was a psyop. And the US actually had an advantage over Russia for the entire cold war in total missiles and nukes active at any given time. Even downsized post cold war the USA literally has the ability to hit Russia from every ocean around Afro-Eurasia at any given time in a first strike, with up to 2,500 hits. This would actually still give the US a modern first strike advantage, whereas the russian 2nd strike capability would largely only come from its own subs in much less force.

You cannot work in the missile industry without clearance. Parts of the US MIC are even blacker than the nuke and missile and skunkwork departments. The sensors around area 51 can spot people from miles away at night and they drive up in UTVs and black SUVs and arrest you or set you free if you leave immediately.

the R-36M2 was already better than the Trident II by any metric by size.

It's whatever though, ICBMs are way past good enough that you would actually need to improve upon them
Its kinda like AK-47 is still one of the best assault rifles
You cant realistically defend against ICBM all the star wars missile defense system bullshit was just psyops with two goals, have the kikes that own shares in defense industry get more taxpayer dollars and the other to psyop americans to think that they actually have some sort of defense or something
The speed of re entry is something like 9km/s + there is MIRV you simply cannot defend against it the physics of it are so
Only thing that could *theoretically* work and target fast enough would be some sort of giga laser weapon but those require too much power and never were actually successful, but theyre the only thing that could work in theory

We still make them today

A dude in my city still forges swords as a hobby, it doesn't make swords any more modern.

This would actually still give the US a modern first strike advantage, whereas the russian 2nd strike capability would largely only come from its own subs in much less force.

Maybe 42 years ago, if every single thing the market guy in the company selling missiles was right, and if every single piece "our enemies are weak" someone became true, maybe.

Imagine no Africa
No Nigerian slough
Imagine no Arabs
and no Israel too
Imagine all the spicshits
Burning up todaaaaay ay ay a-a-aaaaa

When the wet bulb temperature is reached in India sometime in the next 50 years, All the Environmental refugees From India will Start migrating North to seek cooler temperatures.Then World War 3 will start. India and Pakistan have dirty nukes And when they use them, the radioactive cloud will travel around the Globe and kill idiots who hope they wipe each other out.. The Armageddon will occur In this area, not the Mid East.

The world is our oyster, hermano

Indeed, but it's still funny to know that despite all the hubris and cope the "best missile from the best country" was already not the best 4 decades ago, much less today.

It's just nice that Hwasong-19 can outperform anything the US can field.

People in WV still make rifled muskets the old fashioned way. From ore to weapon, all of its little niche components to. The US industrial decay is varied. There are manufacturers in some cities that are way ahead of anywhere else outside of Europe.

India and Pakistan have dirty nukes And when they use them

You mean like 2 - 3 days from now?

There are manufacturers in some cities that are way ahead of anywhere else outside of Europe.

I can name a half dozen Chinese cities with more manufacturing capacity than the US.

The trident ii's were improvements on the 40 years and 60 years old missiles. They are much more reliable and accurate. They've also been hardened against EMF warfare.

Capacity does not equal skill or craftsmenship. Chink skyscrapers literally turn to sand within a decade of them being built and just recentl ywe saw one collapse in Thailand from a distant earthquake. Copium.

It’s all BS. The infrastructure just isn’t there. America is like Germany at the end of WW2, no industry left but some nerds in a basement can still cobble together some wunderwaffen. Meanwhile China makes ships 1000x faster and produces as much steel and high explosives in a week as the US does in a year

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Yes and No.
Their furthest distance achieved was only 1000km but it went mainly vertical rather than out across the Pacific.

North Korea's last ICBM, dubbed the Hwasong-18, was tested in December 2023. Fuelled by solid-propellant and fired from a road launcher, it was also launched at a sharply raised angle and flew for 73 minutes, translating to a potential range of 15,000 km on a normal trajectory.

So the 15k range is theoretical and unproven and accuracy at range hasn't been tested.
So thats their maximum theoretical reach and assuming they will launch missiles at targets at extreme range rather than concentrate on closer threats with their limited number.

You have to be retard to believe this. All the industry left the midwest and appalachia and went to the SW, TX, and the south.

Here is the thing, I know how much you want your precious ancient missiles to the best, but they have not been modernized by much, a 2925 Trident II is for all purposes a EMR hardened 1983 Tritend II.

You're behind in both. If people like you stop masturbating to "how any crap made in teh US the BEST" and actually start to make an effort you may be able to catch.

But instead you keep your same ancient missiles that were not that good back then, and repeat fun stories about Russia and China are somehow worse.

The Us has all of its industry, trust me bro, haha

It has been some time since I met someone as ignorant and dumb as you. You shouldn't try to talk about country music and normie sports, much less missiles or industry.

Go to any of those factories and it’s all Chinese, Japanese, German, Korean m machine tools and industrial equipment. We have zero primary heavy industry, just assembly, parts production and other intermediate bullshit.

lmao we 100% have alien tech reverse engineered, and you think we don’t have upgraded missiles as well?

Daily reminder that nothing is happening.

Wrong. The trident ii's were improved upon again and again. To the point they are literally peak. 100% sub-100m accuracy. The missiles from the 80s are significantly less accurate than the modern tridents.

Also on the subject of advanced missilry again, look at how many missiles russia has launched into ukraine that still has not destroyed ukraine. 13,000 cheap missiles. There are more vids of US missile melting russians than there are of russian missiles melting oiknkers. Russia had to supplement its non-nuclear arsenal with missiles literally from iran and NK.

I think US modern missiles are just like alien tech, kek.

But it'd be good if the American HGV, the Dark Eagle existed IRL, instead of claims "It'll be ready soon" for the past 10 years.

You've never actually been in one. The SW and TX factories are where the most advanced factory tech is in the US right now. Other than skunkworks and the black project sites. Alot of the precision equipment is custom built or from central or nordic Europe.

Wrong, I want it to the BEST, this is enough proff it has been secretly modenized and is the best because the BEST.

It's still not on par with a Soviet R-36M2, maybe another 42 years and you'll be able to catch the now defunct USSR.

You haven't seen the orbs coming out of the DUMBs before and it shows. There's a reason why all the sighting are in the US and west Europe. As I mentioned, try walking up to area 51 at night from miles away, middle of nowhere, no visible sensor or sites. Black SUVs will pull up on you fast and silently and armed men in suits will confront you. People have caught it on video after.

Muh area 51, alien tech

Now this is what I call a cope

Build a working HGV or a high speed rail, and I'll take American tech seriously.

Tridents in the US arsenal are as young as zoomers.

Look it up. The black SUVs arrest people from miles away the moment they get near the invisible lines of control. And area 51 is just a storage and test site not a construction site.

Maybe the alien shit was manufactured to hide the DUMBS. It doesn't matter all of the North American DUMBS are just decoys now. Its post ww2 stuff.

Your military fields the equivalent of 2025 produced T-34s, the production is new, the system hardware is ancient.

look up to alien SUVs, that

Make one (1) high speed rail line, and I'll take every single of your claims as real.

New Zealand has only a token NZDF with no jets, no warships, one battalion of infantry and no artillery or armour - about the same as Jamaica or some other minor 3rdworld island.
They send observers to Nato in Brussels but aren't a member.
There used to be Anzus - a tripartite Australian NZ and US pact but they backed out because they refused US nuke powered boats even visiting, so they have only an informal historical alliance with Australia.

But its in the Australian Constitution to make them our 8th state, so Australia will sort that out.

You need to tell the Russian and Chinese that, not me.

Wrong. The distance between a t34 and a t90 is still quite large. A t90 will mog the shit out of every single t34 in combat and outrange it. Precision and reliability are very important in ICBMs. Especially tactical nukes, which Trump approved down to a yield of only 5-7kt, to be theoretically used in conventional combat.

The men in black show up when you get close to DUMBs. area 51 is a DUMB.

Fuuuck I quickly need to move in with my chilean gf.

that sounds like bullshit. a state of the art ICBM can surely strike anywhere, no?

It’s all from Europe and Japan that’s my point. You don’t understand what I’m talking about, America has industry but it doesn’t build its own industry, it imports all of the production equipment and QC stuff. The stuff we do make is bargain bin bullshit like HAAS. Fucking Spain makes more machine tools than we do

Especially tactical nukes, which Trump approved down to a yield of only 5-7kt, to be theoretically used in conventional combat.

Anon, just make a single working hypersonic gliding vehicle as Trump said you'd have by the end of 2016, and I'll buy your crap.

If Russia, China and India can do it, the US should also be able, right?

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The stuff that is bought is from Europe and Japan. But the custom made stuff in made here. And a large part of advanced manufacturing in the SW uses custom stuff. Including totally custom advanced metrology and machines and processes. All of the most advanced ones are in AZ and TX and CA.

The hypersonic meme is a meme. A conventional half trajectory MIRV is already impossible to intercept and is traveling at hypersonic velocities.

A hypersonic missile can't hardly be detected until it's almost at the target

We can't make it, so it must be bad, hahahahaha

What a cope, yeah, ICBM that were not that good 42 years ago are GREAT, pathetic.

Conventional MIRVs are hypersonic missiles. This is what people don;t understand when they buy into meme hypes like the nuclear torpedoes. If you don't intercept every single MIRV missile in its first or early 2nd stage, you're fucked. And it gets harder to intercept if they are SLBMs launching from all sides.

People in tropical countries will be best placed to survive a nuclear winter you idiot. Plus there is no actaul reason to think the power of nuclear weapons can through up so much dirt as to block out the Sun. No one ever tried. Why would't the force of the blast dissipate in the air?

All mythology reports that fimbulwinters get better again and the skies clear so suck it up nukecels.

But ok, making a HGV is asking too much for the BEST country, with the BEST tech.

Let's lower the bar, how about you show me the US can shoot down a civilian balloon, it can be over American soil, and I'll admit all your crap is right.

yeah but they know it's coming for like, hours and hours before it arrives.

2010s. The circle of accuracy is literally estimated to be below 10m. The maximum range is classified but also estimated to be in excess of 13,000km with a MIRV package. This is the t90 to the t34 missiles of 40 years ago.

A lot of the custom stuff is actually made in other countries too. Not all of it but a large portion.

Wrong. Modern MIRVs give you a warning period of 15 mins at most, only enough time to launch your own and guarantee everyone is fucked.

Anon, I already said, just show me the US shooting down a shitty balloon and I'll buy all your pretty lies and copes.

The materials are on some of the custom stuff can be from elsewhere. But most of it is still coming from Australia, Europe or Japan. And if you look at other advanced manufacturing countries like Germany, almost all of their material is outsourced as well, even though they also have extremely advanced factories.

youtu.be/CeZSz2R106E

You don't want to go into the evidence route. The US mil cannot even hide its orb shit from us anymore so they just fly them around like normal drones. The conventional stuff has thousands of hours of footage. You can watch tests vids on youtube for dozens of hours.

its still not really known if detonating a bomb at the bottom of a continental shelf would do that
the tests the bongs and kiwis did werent very rigorous
if one was able to cause a landslip underwater, then yeah. most of the energy of that bomb isnt pushing the water its heating it up.
the dome survived because it was directly under the air-burst. only a few buildings near or at ground zero survived and everything else including the bridge were just gone. roof tiles melted, only a nuclear bomb could do that.

South America is not a good location during a magnetic pole shift

That would take a literal change in direction of the current from the Sun.

Past pole shifts were when the Earth turned over like a tippy top. But we have the Moon orbiting now which lends stability. So that flip is ruled out.

Maybe the Sun will go out during the Three Days of Darkness until the electrical flow is restored.

Now imagine there was a nuclear warhead attached to the balloon, would this outperform an Trident II? I think so.

north korea can nuke the world?

All mythology reports that fimbulwinters get better again and the skies clear so suck it up nukecels.

Wasn't the nuclear winter hypothesis proven wrong around the Gulf War? Carl Sagan's team theorized that lighting up the oil wells would create a nuclear winter, but nothing happened. The nuclear winter proponents coped by creating an alternative theory that the smoke and soot caused by burning concrete from the cities would cause the nuclear winter for realsies

Your monkey mind cannot comprehend that the difference from an 1980 US ICBM and the 2010s tridents is as significant as the different between a t34 and a t90. The circle of precision got reduced from hundreds of meters to literally 10m.

Sorry for your loss, anon
Perhaps this meme will aid you in your journey

yes, planets without moons are known to randomly flip over like a top. That's how physics works

Why won't you play pretend with me and accept our missiles are now good, no evidence what so ever.

You can claim your missile can hit a fly all day down, all I know is that the US lacks the tech to produce a HGV and couldn't shoot down a fucking balloon.

nukes radiate everything forever

except the 2 times they are used

Firebombs can melt roof tiles.

HGVs are a meme in the first place. Literal copium just like the UUV nuke that would create a tsunami and wipe out Australia in a russian CGI propaganda videos. As previously mentioned, MIRVs literally cannot be intercepted by anyone past the 1st stage. Once they go hot they can't even be remotely disarmed. Their reentry speed is literally 22,000 MPH (hypersonic). The maximum warning time window is roughly 15 minutes from launch.

they go up at an easily predictable ballistic trajectory (parabolic arc) then come back down again.

The thing is once they get past the 1st stage they cannot be intercepted because 1) the time to intercept would be too late (past terminal stage) and 2) When you see them launch the first thing you do is not try to intercept them (meaninglss to do so), it is to launch as many of your own as you can before everyone gets hit. HGVs literally do nothing because no one has the time or range to intercept first stages unless they are MRBMs

but they are slow and obvious, and go way out into orbit.

US, Russia, China, France

Just paint the whole map.

UK

Unpaint the whole map as they don't work.

You are a retard. Once they are detected they are already on their way to being past the first stage. Once they clear the first stage (less than 10 mins) they are terminal and cannot be intercepted. It doesn't matter if you detect their trajectory, you're getting fucked.

The DUMBs are also where the orbs of light appear to come from in many UFO sightings.

Source on this? is there a site/forum about them and where they all are?

I'm an old k and x fag before the 2014-2016 shittening of those boards. I probably have the old pics saved I'll check. Alot of those DUMBs were speculative but there are direct vids and reports of people on the ground getting told to fuck off by men in black when they get close to some. I personally know where at least one is in AZ. There's a little easter egg to it to in a nearby town. Glows get on top of you faster than flies on shit when you post real stuff about it. Everything I post is public domain however so glows can tongue my anus.

Remember the alien reptiloid that shut the site down in 2016. Arizona DUMB.

That's a frustrating map

Why do you think the orbs/drones are actually human made technology and not just simply spirits/supernatural?

Here's a nuke pic while I search for my DUMB stuff. I have 20,000 images saved in my esoteric folders. Pic related is also out of date and doesn't include research reactors.

I honestly don't know. I've personally seen an orb and it didn't appear like anything man could make or project, it was multiphasic and had a shadow within a shadow and an luminous orb around it and disappeared into thin air directly above me. I do know that they are not telling us the truth about anything related to the phenomena, some reports of them shutting down nukes in the 60s are kinda believable but the recent stuff makes reality feel like a fever dream when you look into it.

make a new thread about it. ill bump it.

Ok I found some old schizo stuff in my archive. One of the dots in AZ on this one directly matches the strange easter egg town and reports of the MIB. Wikieup AZ DUMB. The 2016 reptiloid DUMB that made people sick from looking at the image was north of Luke AFB.

Nuclear winter is a cold war era meme

I'm going to bed soon. You'll always find at least one wizard old fag on here or x on these topics.

Also the easter egg in wikeiup is a missile sign. There are train tracks that run nearby and the DUMB is reported under Wikieup between both mountains and possibly under the mountains. If you try to take some trails near the peaks people have reported MIBs in black SUVs, the same type you usually see visiting EMF infra occasionally and at normal bases. There's another such DUMB reported in the mountainous part of Pennsylvania that behaves in much the same way as the Wikieup one.

Commonly shared schizo DUMB map. Note again Wikieup which is connected to the NV blacksites.

believing nukes are real

This one gets a little too schizo for me personally there is an astrology-astronomy connection with megalithic sites around the world, mostly astronomical with solstices or stars. There's also a leyline map made by a swiss person iirc and some of the lines match up with medieval maps and modern bases. The most credible one I've seen is the old maps of the greenland leyline, which to date you can physically see in satellite pics sort of. Also there is a castle turned military base in Scotland that is shaped like a dragon head on a massive fault line.

Here's the Scottish "dragonhead" fort, it's at the end of the massive Scottish scarp/fault. Look at it in google earth to rotate your perspective better and see the obvious dragon head.

How come the US isnt on that map? Do we not have nukes?

dont have nukes

assert global dominance anyway

That would in retrospect be the funniest thing ever if true

Conventional carrier ops basic B naval triangle drone, USN. Skunkworks was reported to be at this level literally 60 years ago, their new stuff is completely black. Feds and ayylmaos tongue my anus, I am not anti-American. All my stuff is public domain including your latest trident ii specs with 20k mph reentry velocities and 29 min total flight time to 7700km.

The "truth" is often stranger than fiction when you search for it. Goodnight/goodday all.

Our only hope is Best Korea? Got it.

i guess the "you are going to brazil" was a good thing after all

Nothing happens till it HAPPENS

Jewish masturbatory fantasy.

muh nuclear winter

Jewish masturbatory fantasy. Picrel.