"Ukraine is illegitimate because it hadn't existed till 1991"

"Ukraine is illegitimate because it hadn't existed till 1991"

Well neither did Russia actually. They both seceded from the USSR.

"B-but made up ethnicity!..."

What the fuck is that supposed to mean? All ethnicities are made up by definition.

"Genocide of Russians!!!!"

Oh, you mean like the number of ethnic Russians in Russia declining from 119M to 105M from 1989?

"Anglo Saxon lizard people!!!!"

You worked with Sobchak from the start and helped many of your oligarchs gain their wealth.

"You know what? You're a Russophobe and a foreign agent!"

Well first of all I'm not the one stripping my people off access to decide their country's leadership and you've done nothing in your tenure that would indicate thst you work in Russia's interests.

I don't understand the argument that "X country belonged to Y country at some point in history before becoming independent. Therefore X country is a fake country and should always belong to Y country." What country isn't a fake country under this definition?

They both seceded from the USSR.

Russia, USSR, Russian Empire, Tsardom of Russia are all the same country

What the fuck is that supposed to mean? All ethnicities are made up by definition.

Mainly just Ukraine is.

Oh, you mean like the number of ethnic Russians in Russia declining from 119M to 105M from 1989?

Lmao, I thought Russia didn't exist in 1989? You just told us Russia appeared in 1991.

They both seceded from the USSR.

Fucking bollocks, the USSR collapsed, there was nothing to secede from.

Russia, USSR, Russian Empire, Tsardom of Russia are all the same country

No they aren't you fucking moron. They had different basis, different laws, borders, military, history, etc. Say something less dumb.

Russia did exist, retard. Ukraine didn't.

They are pretty much the continuation of one another. Russia is even legally the heir of USSR

He's correct. It is all Russia.

Russia is literally the legal inheritor of USSR's seat in the UN, of USSR's international debts and contracts, of USSR's international and legal obligations, of USSR's space technology, nuclear technology, weapons, etc.

How about you hang yourself maybe?

using logic in a Zionist Russia board

You’re wasting your time Nigel

why is it always a british cuck defending ukraine?

Russia existed before the USSR and Ukraine was part of Russia. The Ukraine has only ever existed as a zoning within the USSR and then became a weird "state" when the USSR dissolved.

because Ukraine is a british project

Russia started their govt over in the 90s. But they are the legal heir.

The change to govt was also slow, so sense of continuity fron the old to the next.

Will you kill yourself when the war is over?

Even Putin says that Ukraine was POLISH before it was Russian. It's all posturing. A few months ago he was praising that Ukraine was a modern nation and part of his commerce group.

You don't understand what he said and you're biased.

non-reply invective

niggers like you can't speak right, probably because your wife is still busy fucking your son.

the legal inheritor

Which means it is NOT the same you minge licking AIDS case. That's what heir means my god the only hanging should be your teachers.

All ethnicities are made up by definition

spoken like a true turbomutt
if your nationality doesn't come from a single or multiple related human tribes, and instead bases its existence, identity, and geogrphic borders on being an administrative unit of one or more larger states that used to control it then sorry, you're a meme nation of larpers that has no business existing as a sovereign independent country and should be integrated into your closest relative, preferably peacefully

using quotation marks in greentext

is that way newfag

Which means it is NOT the same you minge licking AIDS case. That's what heir means my god the only hanging should be your teachers.

nigger,

USSR's capital city and administrative center = Moscow

Russia's capital city and administrative center = Moscow

Russian Tsardom's capital city and administrative center = Moscow

Need I say more?

nigga you a tribesman

Motherfucker, is Italy the Roman Empire? If not you need to go apologize to your parents.

Motherfucker, is Italy the Roman Empire? If not you need to go apologize to your parents.

Italy is called Italy.
Russia is called Russia (be it Russian Empire, or Russian Tsardom, or Russian Federation)
It's in the name, learn to read.

Damn I got you good

That heroic fight with a strawman is cute and all, but the real reason is much simpler. This is the land that we consider ours and we don't give a shit about Ukrainian opinion. It should be in our sphere of influence, that's all.

drop the ebonics faggot, it's not my fault you are a ethno-genetic pile that can't differentiate between nation-states and jewish client states
hint: [spoiler]you live in one of the latter[/spoiler]

Italy was in the roman empire, yes

All you gotta know is Lenin created this republic because if he didn't they would have thrown a fit and rebelled

Very interesting that kikes are still attacking Christians while their homeland is being attacked.

it doesnt belong to you subhuman communist rape orcs

it doesnt belong to you subhuman communist rape orcs

funny thing is that USSR existed only for 69 years, but every American acts as if it's been around before the dawn of man

Oh, and this.

All ethnicities are made up by definition.

They're not just made up. They're constructed by groups of intellectuals that think the future must go the way they see it.

That means you can deconstruct the nation as well. There's no sacred value in a nation. And that's what we are doing in Ukraine.

Because they're coping retards. I wipe my ass with the opinions of burger posters.

history is not for you, shouldn't you kill some koalas rn?

guys post your pookhnooms

So cute! Well, okay, come and prove us wrong. Can't you? Shut up and watch real nation shaping the world by its will.

please try it with a NATO nation instead of a poor 3rd world one 1/4 your size that you still haven't managed to conquer in 3 years of trying, or is it 10 years.

you have a niggerbrain iq

That Ukrainian bro is right. Ukraine was surely founded by communist regime, Ukrainian nation was created by it too. Bad thing is that Ukrainians refuse their Soviet succession thus losing the right on their country.

Shouldnt you be sitting in a trench right now?

If Ukraine was winning, this thread would be unnecessary.

Britbongs are subhuman and the world is happy that you're being replaced by jeets

For what? Why do you think Russians need to prove something to you?

TRVTHNVKE

pipe down chang, the grown ups/important countries are talking (hint: not you)
you threaten enough, why don't you do it big boy ?

You use words but a russian can't actually be trusted to mean what he says. You have no morals.

the kievan rus predates moscow by like 400 years and originated from nordic migrants assimilating with the local slavs, russians are mongol rape babies

go fuck a goat!

man, I don't want to fuck a goat

you coward

Kekus maximus.

Don't care, actually. You can trust the fact that more and more land is under Russian control and no one can do anything about it.

the kievan rus predates moscow

notice how Ukraine has neither "Kievan" nor "Rus" in its name. But Russia has "Rus" in its name.

I know your country is 20% muslim but can you think about not fucking goats for 2 minutes?
you're not all talk are you?
big boy threatening everyone but can only pick on a little 3rd world country next door and still not win after 10 years fighting ?
lol
pathetic

Oh, you mean like the number of ethnic Russians in Russia declining from 119M to 105M from 1989?

I have already debunked this claim several days ago. It also had a British flag.

Russia has a right to defend itself.

Ukraine is illegitimate because it hadn't existed till 1991

1917*

"B-but made up ethnicity!..."

Ngl he has a point, the mere fact people like Kruschev can choose if they are Ukrainian or Russian is proof it is a made up ethnicity. Maybe only western Ukrainians are its own thing.

pretty sure Ukraine would beat up your sorry ass within a week, if you two shared borders

Literally as I predicted. How lame.

Alot of commies here that are still mad about jewssr being gone.

giving up so easily?
big bad russkie

murders children

laughs about it online

pure scum

murders children

how many of them?

Your nation has too much of a history of being ruled by judeo bolsheviks to be trusted for that.

Englishman says that killing people is bad

Does this pun need any additions?

Russians have ingrained the hatred of white people installed into there society by being ruled communists jews for so long

Whatever you say you communist kike worshiper

yep and now their president kisses korans, orders the murder of children, and Ivan finds it amusing. subhumans

I'm not fond of our Soviet heritage, actually. One of the reasons is exactly that it totally ruined the trust Russians.

why does Iceland have beef with communism?

orders the murder of children

how many?

drop the ebonics faggot,

Ne seri kurac jel boljhe ako pricam tvoj jezik nigga? Bratstvo i jedinstvo deze nutz.

russians have always been communist and always will be, its their nature

why is the russian with an EU visa (you)ing me?

russians have always been communist and always will be, its their nature

what does this even supposed to mean?
Just admit you use "communist" as a meaningless word, similarly to a braindead monkey throwing poop

All ethnicities are made up by definition.

words are made up too

Guess for that retard making a war equals killing children. Of course, he will not recall how many children died from bombing with the participation of England. "ЭTO ДPУГOE".

More children to the children throne, yeah!

ruzzniggers were perfect saints in WW2

lol
lmao even
meanwhile you blow up children's hospitals and laugh about in on Anon Babble

That's Israel

Anglos doomed white people in ww2

meanwhile you blow up children's hospitals and laugh about in on Anon Babble

again, how many children?

ruzzniggers were perfect saints in WW2

Where did I said that? Oh, I didn't. It's just your tea-sucker fantasy here.

You're the only one moralising about it

why even bring up "bombing with the participation of England" then Sir Gay? after we were talking about Ukraine.
oh wait, russian whatboutism lol

As other anon said, it's you who are moralising here. I don't give a shit about your whining, I'm just telling you're blaming my country for the things every country strong enough does.

nah most countries don't kill kids and laugh about it. or execute captured soldiers. just the scumbag ones (you)

Because you're a disingenuous hypocrite
Go ahead and call Britain scum for bombing European children on purpose

Go ahead and call britain and murica scum for hiroshima

why is chang doing the russian whataboutism now?
ooohhhh

blah blah blah

i still don't want to fund ukraine

Should I be surprised that tea-sucker paints its country as a saint one it obviously isn't? Guess, not. Compare that to me just not caring about your tory shit.

lmao never did that, you're just coping now muhammad.

Russia did X in 2025

YEAH WELL, 70 YEARS AGO

topkek

Go ahead and call Britain scum. Hypocrite.

we dindu nuffin bro!

Get replaced by jeets, loser

Ngl he has a point, the mere fact people like Kruschev can choose if they are Ukrainian or Russian is proof it is a made up ethnicity.

Ethnicity is always a continuum and is fluid in border regions. Millions of people around the world are somewhere between two ethnicities. That doesn’t mean it’s completely fake.

Whataboutism my ass. A word invented by propaganda to get away from the fact that they're doing the same thing they're accusing others of doing.

chang mad lol

literally is what you're doing.

mention something that happens in 2025

WELL IN WW2 ...

lel
KGB mind tricks again

What the fuck is that supposed to mean? All ethnicities are made up by definition

their language is 90% russian.. their ethnicity already exists right next to them, it's called Russia

posting a map of an illegitimate country that didn't last a year

You sure showed him

it's circular logic the typical dishonest nigger is addicted to

Yes what your people did and got away with

whataboutism is jew shit, because it diverts from the argument. it's a fallacy, you fucking faggot retard
there is a way to address hypocrisy, you just have to figure out your way around an argument like you arent 2 digit iq. can you manage that?

By that logic, the Irish are Englishmen.

Keep in mind the north was occupied by the Brits and had ethnic cleansing done just as much as the Ukies had in the east and Crimea.

The organic ones. Not the ones made up by jews and anglos.

noone asked you englishman

jinx

And your language and culture is 100% English.

No, he's acting jewish by attacking others for what his country does. Russia doesn't kill children, retard. Only anglos and kikes do that deliberately and then accuse everyone else of doing it and cry whataboutism where it doesn't apply.

I notice you didn't name a country...

im historically illiterate

England and Russia are not fake countries

i wasn't referring to any argument in particular. but the faggot is championing a fallacy.
anothers actions (and often this is just another assertion, further taking away from the debate) do not dismiss your criticism.
fucking seethe about it, but you're a dumbfuck

England definitely wasn't made up by Anglos. You're a smart wog.

No he isn't. We already said that Russia doesn't kill children. Were pointing out that countries like Britain actually does and he does not call them scum. It is pure hypocrisy and he knows it. Its jewish behaviour.

You know what I mean, moron.

that has nothing to do with what im saying. you are low iq

There was no fallacy, retard. Read the conversation again. Not a single faulty line of logic from us.
You're projecting about iq

Russia

Made up by mongols first and then germans.

England

Made up by romans.

Your flag

Also made up, since you don't talk like australian at all, you fake vpn nigger. Your whole existence is made up, who are you to lecture people on countries?

i wasn't defending any side of the argument. but one retard (maybe you) tried to dismiss whataboutism. maybe my timing was shit, maybe your arguments are shit. but it's a simple fact
you can challenge their claim, and call them on hypocrisy. that's fine

No, I don't, sorry.

anothers actions do not dismiss your criticism.

Not if we're talking about morals where you shouldn't blame others for the things you also do by default.

If that anon had been smarter, I could, of course, have gone into conversations about the value of taking life for the sake of the welfare of the country or some social goal. I could tell that not only life matters but it's quality too, etc.

But if that anon had been smarter, this talk wouldn't have started initially.

i'm more against russian lies than anything. if it were up to me, id feed every liar feet first into a woodchipper
just own up to imperialism. just own it nigga. no more lies
you want to take ukraine because they got that good shit? fine

Yeah completely fake no, but does it justify being a separate country? Is the difference between a ukrainian and a russian bigger than the difference between a russian from Murmansk and a russian from the southern Urals?
the subdivisions of the 1917 republic are the same as those of the empire. And even if they weren't, it still complements my point well. Nigger

Which is what we did you, pedantic nigger. Fuck off. You're useless.

Russia existed before the USSR.

Every country lies. If you aren't lying you lost and your women are getting raped by liars.

Whataboutism my ass. A word invented by propaganda to get away from...

literally what was stated. cope
classic whataboutism

Dude, you are so dumb.
Why don't you post the definition of whataboutism?

when you become a communist shithole responsible of mass murders you don't have the right to claim former territory aynmore

the ussr had no right to exist in the first place

the soviet union existed for 2 days after russia withdrew, Kazakhstan was the last to leave

This is the land that we

we

There's more than me in Russia, yeah.

Defending Putin on a platform blocked in RF

Thats based
Britbongs should not defend their country however

So why don't they support israel?

it's not just about language you asses, I was saying that in the context of their ethnicity
there was never a point in "Ukrainian" history, where they were speaking "Ukrainian", before the mean Russian ever attacked them (((unprovoked)))
they were always russian
comparing this vs the irish english argument is retarded, and that you are

what does it fucking matter?

Ask chatgpt

im out, suck my dick

Ok, see ya kid. You'll be in for a surprise when you use chatgpt to cheat at uni.

The ukraine started the conflict when it invaded the legally and peacefully seceded free democratic states of the LPR and DPR. If the ukraine did not want war, it should not have started it.

the britcuck considers himself an important country

Fucking zelenskike levels of arrogance

No. USSR = Russia. Just because the commies took over doesn't mean it wasn't still the same fucking country. That's like saying America's a different country because Trump took over from Biden.

everyone I don’t like is a Russian

You’re in a cult, little mooslim

I don't understand the argument that independence is always a permanent thing. If you cannot hold onto your country you lose it, either by getting federalized or invaded. Neither method any more moral than the other.

execute POWs and laugh about it

Please, that’s the only thing you see posted in uhg. You’re seething

I don't confuse the motherland with the president's ass. Censorship is always lame, that doesn't mean I shouldn't like my country.

If you loved your country wouldn't you want its citizens to have the ability to elect its leader? Lol

encyclopediaofukraine.com/display.asp?linkpath=pages\L\I\LittleRussia.htm
If Ukrainian isn't a made up ethnicity, explain why the ruler of Galicia signed his latin letters "dux totius russiae minoris" aka rosia micra, and the ukrainians were always called "ruskis" during the polish-lithuanian commonwealth period because such a thing as "ukrainian" didn't exist. Also, the ukrainians were historically mostly russian nationalist during that period of history.

Every country begin somewere all that " it was our land before" is stupid

No