"Fuck Europe - they need to stand in their own!"

"Fuck Europe - they need to stand in their own!"

"Noooooo! Not like that!"

Why are burgers like this?

War Jews mad their cash cow doesn't want their flavor of war jewdaism

Truly a mystery

Good for them. Europe should remilitarize.

and you should use guns on your zog

We don't need violence. We need christ.

lol why are you fooling yourself? there isn't a single non-jewish arms manufacturer
what should be happening is Europe adopting the American tradition of gun ownership

their guns are for posing with only.

or to murder defenceless animals

retarded trump with even more retarded dj vance tried to be presidents of all russian internet trolls before realizing their postulates kinda target interests of all american people not only european

Because DOGE department is mad that the US spends billions keeping troops in Europe.
But then the moment Europe stops spending billions on American weapons, the military-industrial complex gets mad.

We don't need guns we need to deport shitskins

Hitler was right wasn't he

Hunting is okay as long as you respect the animal

In case you haven't noticed, the emperor of America has very low intelligence.

EU talks about replacing US shit

no substitute for half the shit

lol lets gets ukraine off starlink!

competitor available 2030+, launching crap all satellites per year

EU cucks suddenly say grippen is as good as F35

Grippen wpuld unironically be better for the Hruks then F-35

cheaper

easier to maintain

can start and land from a bombed out highway while the F-35 needs a vacuum cleaned Super-Tarmaquium 4000 strip (sold seperately)

They want money.
When America says defend yourselves what they mean is buy our slop.

No ofc not, they’ll just leave willingly
and it’s not like I need guns for anything else like fucking defending myself
Stupid fucking snail eater

can land on a road which most jets could do

thinks it can hit potholes landing and be fine

most US jets have stronger landing gears due to carrier landings anyway and could probably handle it

Similarly, the United States Air Force’s 354th Fighter Squadron and Michigan Air National Guard’s 127th Wing used a state highway during the Northern Strike 21 large-scale training exercise in August 2021. Here, four A-10 Thunderbolt IIs successfully landed on a civilian roadway in the U.S.

No they wanted Europe to buy more overpriced equipment. It was never about Europe standing on their own.

You need guns for that nigger

this kind of crap should not be allowed here, this is not a freedom of speech, but a blatant insult
shame on you, poltard

Look at the homicide rate in USA and compare it to Europe, look what Americans achieved with their guns. Do you want to look like USA or you have higher standards ?

If you break it down by race the US has the same murder rate as the UK.

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Because the whole thing was about giving more money to jews - not defending Europe or Europeans hell we are being invaded as we speak.
And we are doing nothing about it borders are wide open.
We could repeal UN Refugee Act of 1951 to stop it all with a flick of pen, but of course it isnt being done because all White government got jewish infiltrators in them that push for anti-White agenda

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Why not?
The current US arms provider aren't even American.
I shoulda bought stocks in SiG.

We could also just reject the UN

You really think all these nonwhites will just up an leave without violence?
You think indians will go back to india if you ask them nicely? They've literally celebrating replacing Whites in social media

Cope more retard you know Im right it would be a disaster if shitskins could afford guns legally.
USA is USA their main problem is nigger and speak in Europe we have a muslims, you don't get it.
American niggers mainly shot each others but mudslims are dedicated to erase our kind no matter their race.

Yes he was. About everything.
Read this piece it was written 100 years ago and could have been written yesterday.
He was probably the most prescient and best man that ever lived.
His passing was the greatest tragedy of 20th century

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They closed the Russian border no more migrants

based Trump cockblocking MIC faggots

your muslims run around with ak-47 and similar retard and this thread isnt even about civilian guns
i bet you are kike from israel actually

We don't need guns we need to deport shitskins

This. Then just fill Europe with nukes. It will deter any would-be attacker forever.
But the acute problem is not some extrernal attacker but the attackers that are inside our countries and our own governments, the jews, the multiculturalists, the non-Europeans

forgot pic

If i had a gun i would be deporting them myself(to the afterlide).

Look at the homicide rate in USA

how about YOU do that? unlike your country, their statistics actually account for race
anyway don't fucking reply to me any more
I'm not going to waste my time on an argument that's been discussed to death on this board for over a decade now

That's the point retard. They already have illegal weapons because their goal is to genocide us now imagine how many of them would have guns if you could buy guns like in USA.
if you need a gun to protect yourself don't be a dumb goy and declare it even mudshits understoud that.

A-10 Thunderbolt II

Is a ground attack plane while JAS Gripen is a multirole fighter jet.
They're entirely different things.
You might as well said that in the training someone parked a Ford F150 on the driveway.

don't declare it*

It's not the Burgers, but the Jews who are mind-controlling them.

There is no need for guns when there are only White people around that is for sure.
I actually used to live in a White ethnostate since 20 years ago we used to be one, so I actually know what I am talking about

No the problem is faggot legalists are Americans are high in that

nooo you can't land your plane on a paved road!

only the grippen can!

This. Finnish Sako making big bank when rest of Europe scrambles to buy stuff from our war factories. Valmet is another one, they have to compensate for the loss of US car sales by going back to creating military vehicles like they used to.

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Only signaling for deeper military development and integration. All good news, just get those "peace loving" commies away from the White House.

I mean of course you can use guns for hunting, you obviously use them for military practice too.
But as personal defense completely unnecessary, why the fuck would you need that in a White ethnostate.
No one is going to kill you, that literally never ever happened here.
Only killings/murders that happened that White people did were always druggies killing each other for whatever reason being drugged out of their minds
Random person not in the drug scene literally 0% chance of being killed and needing gun for personal defense

Yes and we have #10 most guns per capita in the world.
It is not a gun problem, it a multiculturalism problem, always was.
But the other part of the point is that once you remove the nonwhites, the reason to own guns for personal defense also disappears, and you dont need them anymore

now imagine how many of them would have guns if you could buy guns like in USA.

this thread was never talking about it you brainless retard
it talks about european militaries stopping buying arms from USA and shifting for development of local factories/products as result of trump's art of deal
also as i said criminals like muslims already have their guns from other unregulated sources and by the end to the day only white europeans have nothing to defend themselves with when attacked
gif rel you kike retard

Is this so we can live in a based safe ethnostate like Americans do

You stupid? They come from everywhere else. Russia was just one point of entry and for the most part it was not even used much except for the one period where Putin possibly deliberately flooded the borded with them.
There are more migrants flowing into Finland every single day, 150,000+ has came in last 12 months alone and the Russian border has been closed for all that time

You fucking retarded the discussion was about fighter jets specifically
Then you turn around the discussion to some completely different plane to make your point

Are you a fucking jew or what the fuck is wrong with you how are you so disingenuous?
Or a jeet? Some sort of shitskin for sure

the reason to own guns for personal defense also disappears, and you dont need them anymore

Well no it still exists, it's just greatly diminished.

okay lets stick to fighters then

F35 has landed on a road too you muppet lmao

you're a dumbfuck that thinks only the grippen can land on a paved road. TOP KEK

americans actually using their guns to fight tyranny

lol

RK62 needs to become the new standard battle rifle.
Fuck those 5.56 squirrel guns, 7.62 or go home

unironically yes

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Because maga people are legit retards

No it literally vanishes because no one will be out to kill you.
Except if you think about it as a future insurance against government or something like that, thats diferent thing
But strictly personal defense in a White ethnostate, non needed

fact

by the end to the day only white europeans have nothing to defend themselves with when attacked

idk if you are deliberately misunderstanding him but yes of course NOW when there are niggers and shitskins personal defense weapons are needed
But if the shitskins are REMOVED then there is no need, and that was the french guys point

The main benefit is that it's cheap as fuck in maintenance. It's designed to be taken apart by conscripts with a couple months training. The F35 needs a cadre of specialized mechanics, regular re-coatings etc. An order of magnitude cheaper flight hours.

F35 has landed on a road too you muppet lmao

In Finland no less.

Yes you should have used that as example then instead of some retared irrelevant example about A10 warhog

Is everyone in this thread brown or why the fuck is evryone so god fucking damn retarded its like talking to a bunch of niggers

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the latter won't happen because we lack the former

no one will be out to kill you.

As in white people are physically incapable of it? 100% impossible?

You dont solve that by arming the White populace, you solve it by genociding the jews.
When the jews are gone you can simply send all the nonwhites back home where they came from
Or fucking kill them all too, the jews wont be there to stop you anymore

Not physically incapable, simply they wont do it. Are you physically incapable of killing your mother? Will you do it?
Fucking retarded, ITS LIKE TALKING TO A BUNCH OF FUCKING NIGGERS HERE

Not physically incapable

Ergo I have a reason to keep a gun.

lmao its more impressive the a10 can land on a road than the F35

a10

Are you trying to make your point or his?

Yes you should have used that as example

I'm not Australian and I'm assuming it's what he knows about.

It's very standard for jets to be able to be landed on civilian roads. It's basically a necessity for all planes.

bbc.com/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-66931523

Yeah and iirc it can land on narrower / shorter roads, that F35 landing was done on those special highway sections idk if u have them in Sweden but which are superwide and basically a lane of airport in width. you can use them to emergency land a fucking 747 so ofc u can land a fighter jet on them too.
Iirc the Gripen can take off from smaller roads that dont have to be those special airport strip wide highways

But the Gripen did lose the contract to the F35 for acquiring new planes for our air force so the F35 must be better in some ways.
I dont know enough of those to say

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Who could be behind this?

It's because it wasn't only about your protection. In fact it was something like "We maybe will try to defend you, while you pay us for soldiers, ammunision, vehicles. And also we will use it to make you as powerless as possible, so you will depend on us."
I would not be surprised that many countries at this point has started to recreating/developing nukes silently.

Says the second or third most zogged country on Earth. Maybe when your police stops arresting Palestinian activists you could start throwing the stones.

It's very standard for jets to be able to be landed on civilian roads

The article about F35 landing in Finland say it was "historic first ever high way landing for the F35" so its not quite standard fare, and again it was on a special superwide highway which is NOT regular highway

Why the fuck are you arguing disingenuously you some sort of kike team with the aussie?

I'm fine with this. Less money for MIC is a good thing. It's less than 1% of our economy so it's not a big loss for us as a country but bad for the military industrial complex.

All advanced nations have nukes including Germany and Japan. They're just unassembled - they can be assembled very fast. It's why the jews keep seething about Iran's nuclear program. Iran also has nukes btw.

I think you're probably the shitskin that needs to be removed
You clearly don't have a White mind because you don't understand my point
I can't really explain it to a nonwhite either

stupid Americans! They want us to not steal from them *and* to buy our products? How does that make any sense? You can only buy from those you get massive gibs from!

Why are foreigns like this?

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have practised landing on a highway in Europe for the very first time.

It's the first time they did it in Europe. That's what is special. The Grippen has a far shorter requirement which is why it's considered a Short Take-off and Landing (STOL) aircraft. The F35B however has a vertical take off and landing ability (VTOL).

oh yeah the f35b is the VTOL one its a different one
that can land anywhere dont have to be a highway

you need to spend more on your military while we tariff you!

wtf, we meant you need to buy from us!

lmao thats not what he said either
he literally said not to declare guns same as shitskins do in europe currently before running on the streets with ak-47
he also said if we legalized it all shitskins would have guns
he assumes its better if law-abiding citizens dont have anything to defend themselves with while all criminals run with military grade weapons
what you said is retarded too and only passes in countries with slave population

It's designed to be taken apart by conscripts with a couple months training. The F35 needs a cadre of specialized mechanics

Yeah most training is few months for other planes lmao

why don't you just train people instead of relying on conscripts

On September 21st, 2023, the 15,000th F-35 maintainer graduated through the training system.

Fake news
The US gets all thier pistols from Italy, one example

I think you're probably the shitskin that needs to be removed

I live on an Island that had cannibalistic natives as little as 140 years ago. I think I will prefer to have a gun.

US officials have no say in how Europe spends its moron, you babbling moron

What are you talking about potato nigger? Do you have a military that can buy weapons?

they run sigs

beretta got dumped a long time ago as they started failing, 14 had slides break and injure the shooter

Well the company is, the actual production run of Beretta's you use are in Tennessee.

All advanced nations have nukes including Germany and Japan.

And there are also Taiwan and Finland for example who don't have them

Adopted 2017

Well shit, not going to lie it looks ugly.

It is every red-blooded American's patriotic duty to bring shame on all attempts at sympathizing with communists and their proprietors.

What gibs? Retard.
You really bought all that Trump's bullshit about other countries "taking advantage of USA" do you not realize how absolutely fucking retarded that is.

The reality is what he couldnt say out loud is that jews have completely and utterly fucked you over, and the entire world, when in the 70s they convinced Reagan in USA and Thatcher in UK to completely eliminate all the regulations of the financial industry, which the rest of the world then had to follow.
The world economy has been entirely fake since then but yours is *especially* fake.

Youre printing infinite amount of dollars, you're trading other countries worthless paper for actual goods and you think that YOU got the short end of the stick here?? Fucking kek.
The reality is that you've been printing an INSANE amount of money, and the only thing that sits between you and Zimbabwe levels of inflation is the reserve currency status of USD.
Basically your dollar is WAY overvalued compared to your actual productivity, which makes you much wealthier than you should be.
That doesnt seem bad at first and it hasnt been, it has been extraordinary privilege for you.
But what Trump is foreseein here is the loss of USD status as reserve currency which would instantly make the dollar almost worthless overnight considering you dont have any industrial capacity to back it up.

So Trump is doing actually smart moves, he is just lying about all the reasons why and what he is doing, he is trying to correct the mistakes of your homegrown jews there while blaming the rest of the world for them.

You should read Stephen Miran's paper

A User's Guide to Restructuring the Global Trading System

It's quite good even though to make it palatable it still lies a bit about the causes and dont go into detail why the situation is what it is, and doesnt name the jew even once.
But it is honest about the effects and how dollar is vastly overvalued and how it creates the situation you currently have

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This dude explains the current situation of why quite well, in a way that I think even a normie can understand, if you have at least a basic grasp of how economics work

youtube.com/watch?v=QgE8Hp9hs4M

Why not both?

Brother calm down

Also nobody is fucking stealing from you, fucking kek
We've been buying a shit ton of your military tech and its retarded we should make our own stuff and restart our own production, make as much as possible ourselves

least germany might not have to use broom sticks on their tanks lmao and have more than 4 typhoons combat ready

slave population

Ahh you're a shitskin, so you're not even part of this conversation because its you who need to fuck off this continent.

Finland has not yet signed or ratified the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons.

Taiwan pursued nuclear weapons programs from 1949 to the late 1980s but abandoned its final secret nuclear weapons program in the late 1980s under US pressure after completing all stages of weapons development except for final assembly and testing.

You sure about that?

Fair point.
Once the cannibals are eradicated they're not going to just spawn from nothing though, you dont believe in magic do you?

I suspect you might have at least some nigger in you due to your density, so I try to explain as simply as I can:

100% White: no gun needed
below 100% White: gun needed

I can't really make it any simpler than that

I suspect you might have at least some nigger in you due to your density,

OK lets go through this logically. Why is there a continent of white convicts next to me?

Yeah Bosnia is dirt poor their average salary is like $1K / month, so it must be cheaper getting it from there.

That being said sometimes its advisable to do a bit of socialism and use subsidies to make it viable producing something domestically when its important.

For example we give our farmers ton of subsidy gibs so food can be competitively produced here
Which is good most of our food is locally produced and still affordable, and in case of crisis we can still produce food.
If we went all international capitalism, then all the food production here would cease and we'd buy all food from a cheaper country.
But then if crisis come and borders close -> no food

7.62×39mm

39mm

You're in NATO now. There is no 39mm!

I meant to viable to produce here. The whole problem is that food production here is not competitive compared to some cheaper countries with lower salaries, and subsidies is what makes them viable

There is no 39mm!

There is always 7.62x39mm, fuck 5.56x45 with its lousy penetration its a lightweight bullshit round for bullshit people

I just set the record straight for the retard
It does make me mad how people are so retarded that they buy the trump bullshit of "other countries taking advantage of them" its fucking niggerdly shit not taking responsibility, no one else fucked your economy except yourself by allowing the jews in.
Other countries had fuck all to do with any of it

so fucking wierd we didnt just buy your license for valmets instead of buying german and belgian shit

And if anything you fucked it up for everyone, after Reagan/Thatcher tore down all the guardrails and went full on laissez-faire capitalism everyone else HAD to follow because it was basically a race to the bottom at that point, who gives the least regulation for the kikes

Any country with nuclear energy is capable of creating nukes. The biggest problem of nukes is the delivery, that is, the missile that'll carry the payload. Good missiles, as in, intercontinental ones, are in the hands of 3 countries, 4 if you really push it, and euros are in the "push it" category thanks to France

There is no need to argue this because you're not White you will never understand White morality or how the White mind works its completely impossible to explain.
It's like trying to explain color to a blind person

Europe should remilitarize.

Any country with nuclear energy is capable of creating nukes.

Well not directly. I mean sure there is the knowhow to, but the facilities are not directly capable.
In fact that is the very reason why the very useful breeder reactors that can be used to recycle "spent" nuclear material are frowned upon because its those type of reactors that can be used to enrich uranium to make nuclear weapons.
Regular PWR power plant tech cant be used for that.
"spent" in quotes because the current way of using the nuclear material actually leaves ~98% of the energy still in there so imo its kinda ridiculous to call it "spent" when you basically just scratched the surface of the energy potential and you're already throwing it away.
Currently though uranium being abundant and breeder reactors being complex to maintain, its actually cheaper to just use the ~2%, not recycle it and just throw it away.
Currently only France and Japan are actually recycling their nuclear "waste" and reusing it.

he biggest problem of nukes is the delivery,

No it's the refinement. You want extremely concentrated U235 for a bomb if you have to use Uranium. Almost everyone only sells lowly enriched Uranium and abides by the IAEA (international body that governs atomics). It's refining it yourself that most nuclear prospective countries struggle/d with (big fucking centrifuge).

Payload is simple, just a ballistic missile. But yield for Uranium is relatively low for a nuke.

Making missiles is not that hard anymore in the modern day, back in 1960s it was.
North Korea has pigeon shits worth of GDP and even they made a working ICBM

Not to mention bunch of countries have made space rockets, if you can launch a satellite to space you can definitely make an ICBM which is 100x simpler to make

There is no need to argue this because you're not White you will never understand White morality

I have a literal country made up of the descendants of white murderers next to me. It's a pretty nice place because they were white and kind of got over it, but it remains a retarded statement to say white people can't be criminals too so there's always a justification for arms for self defense.

That was only in the first batch of 10,000. They fixed it and recalled them.

RK is going to stay for the simple reason that its the same caliber russians use, so we can loot their corpses for more ammo in a battle.

They use german sigs now. Just because they are made in the USA doesnt mean Italy is not getting paid. Also alot of our aviation parts are made in Poland. To pretend the EU is not gettimg rich off US arms sales is retarded.

The Russians use 5.45 x 39 now.

Why are burgers like this?

Last time you faggots had weapons we had two world wars. Why can't you be more like the UK and just throw acid into each others faces?

Wasn't Australia mostly petty criminals, some even deliberately doing some crime to get sent there if they wanted to get out of UK.
Also people falling into debt and escaping it or going into indentured slavery type of program to pay it off, things like that. It's a long time since I read about this particular topic but my recollection that amount of actual murderers and such antisocial violent criminals was pretty low, that the "island of murderers" is just a meme.

And I don't say that White people don't ever commit murder but the type of it is something that you wouldnt ever come across as normal law abiding citizen.
It would always be drug related stuff like I already said druggies killing each other for over drugs.

It's only after you introduce multiculturalism to the White ethnostate that everything starts to break down

Because everyone is jealous of Germanic people. Note how the only people who must never be allowed to have exclusive communities are Germanic. That's what fear from outsiders looks like. It's also what jealousy looks like. If all the spook stories about Germanics were true, nobody would want to live around them. Instead, the world and rich traitor Germanics force integration at gunpoint on all Germanics.

Paying some license to some billionaire owner is nothing and is probably some kike that has bought the business anyway at this point
Meanwhile having the factory is what actually matters and brings jobs and prosperity

So

Just because they are made in the USA

is exactly the most important part, where they are made. Not whether some kike somewhere gets a license fee the ordinary people will see none of that

there isnt any conversation just one retarded kike with finish flag incapable of understanding surrounding world
kys retard

How many school shootings this week, amerilard?

Paying some license to some billionaire owner is nothing and is probably some kike that has bought the business anyway at this point

what about gun permits clinical retard?

Because GDP doesn’t matter you blithering idiot. North Korean currency is worthless in the international market but it doesn’t mean they can’t get a ton of work out of their people.

North Koreans produce more artillery than NATO countries do COMBINED so there’s your GDP full of useless jobs where some dumb bitch changes the color of a box and writes a few emails.

Would be more funny if he turned more orange as the video course

Incredibly gay image and post

Kek i've seen this type of cope before

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Nah they were whores, murderers and smugglers. They just lie that it was for stealing bread because telling your kids mum sucked off random men and dad killed a man while drunk isn't a comfortable conversation.

If you ignore the reality you get a desirable result

Good work, pinhead
Also:

If we only count whites in the USA then it has the same murder rate as the UK with its Pakis, Muslims and Somalis included

Kek USA USA lmfao

it has the same murder rate as the UK with its Pakis,

UK actually has a very low homicide rate for Europe.

Considering how inaccurate Hwasongs are you're reaally stretching the definition of "working"

You should be capable of going the fuck back to your own country, instead being a shitskin invader in Europe, and a jewish bioweapon

We are talking about manufacturing just get the fuck back to india already ranjeet you are stupid

ah yes keep showing everyone how retarded and detached from reality you are since i dared to mention your slave mentality you fucking serf
since the days of ancient rome and older what separated slaves from non slaves was right to defend yourself with lethal weapons
go on tell me what a shitskin i am because i refuse to be slave

Yeah you're not wrong that GDP isn't a very good measure of capability.
My point is though that NK's resources are very limited and even they could made ICBM, which is impressive for them, but any country that is not some blithering shitskinland could make ICBM if they wanted to, its not hard
All the costly R&D and science is already well-known and tested its basically just assembly at this point in time

What your picrel dude also forgot that your richest jews are now richer than they're ever been, so there is that, if he wonders where all the GDP went

they could made ICBM

Eh. They got the technical details from China.

They're unreliable. This is established now. Sell your shitty guns to mexico so the cartel can kill you guys.

yes now you are talking about manufacturing so you care about jews having control over your means to self defense but when it comes to individual people you dont care anymore since they groomed you right mr slave
i blame low iq

A-10 Thunderbolt

that's an antique

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Do you have some source, or even better some documentary I could watch? I'd like to refresh my memory on this, its been a long time since my schooldays

How inaccurate are they?
I know the ones that USA, UK, France, Russia and China use have all sub-100m accuracy but realistically anything sub-1000m is quite enough

We need guns to kill shitskins.

you're that jeet that posts from under polish flag
go back to india

No about this

Nah they were whores, murderers and smugglers. They just lie that it was for stealing bread

I'm pretty fucking sure it was mostly indentured servants and such, and most of them weren't even criminals

...The court records and convictions of the people who were sent? They're open archives in the UK and digitized.

at least theyll be easy to beat in a war, there weapons are garbage

lmao keep seething since you have nothing to defends this worthless bullshit you spew you dumb kike

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Trump and his buddies want to make Europe more selfreliant

Europe somewhat tries to be selfreliant

oldguard kiked US officials object, because their mic shares dip a bit in value

why are burgers like this?

You just don't see the situation.
Is it Trump kvetching against the EU when they want to make their own thing?
Which are also mostly in the planning phase only lol.
It will take years to build factories and another at least to fill them with experienced engineers and workers.

>"Fuck Europe - they need to stand in their own!"

^this statement is propaganda used by MAGgots to create the facade of isolationism/nationalism

>"Noooooo! Not like that!"

^this statement is what the ruling class actually believes/needs

Learn to distinguish between propaganda and "business" (domination of your life by the fascist ruling class)

used a state highway during the Northern Strike 21 large-scale training exercise in August 2021

Are you trying to say that the US highways are in similar state of disrepair as a bombed-out runway in a war zone? What is your point? Also, who gives a shit about the A-10?