The Vatican does not make sense to me, what exactly is the point of its existence and why is the whole world worshipping the Pope? To me it looks like satanic idol worship. They raise the Pope to the highest status and call him "Holy Father".
I don't understand the point of having such a figure. We need to follow Christ and not worship demons.
confused zoomer here
We know exactly who you are, Chaim
bad bait, you should feel bad
the papal office is the office of the anti christ
vicar of christ literally means the man replacing Christ
There is no one in the entire world who do charity shit more than the church.
school
hospitol
orphanage
university
Name a more charitable organization than the catholic.
it's very easy to understand you just have to open a history book
kike
stop worshipping a man instead of God
Matthew 16:18
Caths are idolators
Remember its Hail Mary full of Grace for them not God
They are absolved of their sins by their church leaders not Jesus
They pray to and make idols of “Saints”
And yes they have such importance for some earthly man.
For them instead of God leading their church its a pope.
Its sad really, they are so blind to everything all the pageantry all the idolatry
Yesterday was a whole grand parade for a earthly man instead of one for God
Please.. Its more easy for someone to give you tldr instead of reading a whole fabricated history book.
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i honestly cannot name a more powerful organization sponsoring mass immigration and white replacement than the christian missionary nonprofits. not even jews do this
because christ told everyone to do so 2000 years ago.
the Vatican is Christianity. all other subsets are fraudulent affronts to God using bastardized self interested interpretations of the bible.
enjoy hell retard
what exactly is the point of its existence and why is the whole world worshipping the Pope?
retards have been worshipping fake bs since the dawn of man
It's a jewish trick. The vatican is jewish. The jesuits are jewish. Christianity is jewish.
Not me, I worship God and follow the teaching of Jesus.
You pray to golden idols which God is explicitly against
brainwashed protestants and non Christians believe this lol
Nein
The version where I have 1488 white virgin brides is the only true faith.
Well. I plan to conquer the entire world. That's not a lie.
Cathcucks think its false.
Christianity in general makes no sense
every human is born inherently flawed and sinful and doomed to go to hell
this got fixed though because god incarnated as a man and basically commited ritual suicide to absolve us all of our original sin
but you still go to hell unless you profess your belief that this human/god blood sacrifice actually happened
this next part only applies to catholics but is still stupid
but "faith without works" isn't enough so you have to give 10% of your income to the church
and you have to go there every week at least and listen to them speak latin and shit
don't forget to eat the wafer and drink the wine, which you MUST believe undergo divine transubstantiation and become the literal flesh and blood of Jesus Christ. you must consume this flesh and blood
don't forget to go in the booth and tell a mortal man everything you did wrong this past week
he won't tell anyone, promise. the rules say he can't tell anyone so it's fine
like what the fuck are we even doing here
Bergoglio was a cryptokike and packed the cardinals with his cryptokike friends.
Christcucks are hilarious. You're all fighting over who goes to hell to suffer for all eternity or doesn't when it's your jewish God the Demiurge Yaldabaoth Yahweh who condemns you to eternal torture for whatever arbitrary reasons he can come up with. Like holy fuck you dumb goys have no self-respect, no brains, no heart, and no soul.
what exactly is the point of its existence
To create a power amd profit margin between man and God.
It's just a matter of Power. My goal is pretty set. I just lack that one.
Centrality of doctrine within a more or less exhaustive catechism.
How do you know what are the actual nuanced philosophical standings of Islam and Orthodox Christianity? You don’t. Ijma/Consensus only takes you so far.
Shut the fuck up you brown piece of shit.
Puerto Rican...talking about having soul
the majority of christians are brown or black
And that is all wrong because you were born in a different offshoot of this made up religion?
made up religion
every religion is made up
It is satanic idol worship. The Catholic church is the second beast of revelation that spawned out of the 11th horn Aka Justinian.
Also obviously Martin Luther released the book that sweet on the tongue and bitter in the belly. The Bible was not allowed to be read at all before then. You could not own one, and it was only in Latin.
Making Mary a substitute God is also an Idol, praying to Mary, same thing... Christ is King and no one else. The popes title in Latin adds up to 666 as all Latin charters have a number value.
Look at how mad the little baby is, the archons really messed your brain up. Wake up. You're worshipping the Greater Evil.
what exactly is the point of its existence
originally it was just a protection racket to sell papal indulgences so the wealthy could be absolved from degeneracy and criminality
All religions are Satanic. God killed himself on the cross, and the only deities left are devils.
I embody the will of fire.
I sure as shit can claim to be the God of gaming. But that's the limit that God allow me to have... probably for my own good.
Christianity in general makes no sense.
Jesus did not create Christianity as a religion. Christianity as a religion was invented by man, so of course it does not make sense. And lets not forget the fact that they have deliberately misinterpreted Christ's teaching for power and control over the population.
In 1054 they decided Peter alone made the church and they were the direct descendant and God was just kidding about calling no other mortal man father with authority over your beliefs.
It is satanic idol worship.
people dont realize that the Bible itself is an idol, and the fundamentalist attitude to the Bible's inerrancy is literally a form of idolatry, St Francis forbade his followers from owning Bibles since reading took time away from them praying
Catholicism makes sense in that it is pretty much the most rigorous doctrine in Christianity, but the disgusting opulence of the Vatican is definitely Satanic.
IDK what a solution is, any offshoot is just as Satanic because those are really just excuses to act like a jew but call yourself Christian.
Orthodox seems like it's too much of a fad.
Atheism is the solution. Life is better when you don't give power to the Demiurge. If you really need something to worship, then worship beautiful women and stop being a christcuck faggot who kisses nigger feet and sucks jewish cock.
he is right. unfortunately.
Woman is just a creation of God at the end. They will be no woman without God.
I don't understand the point of having such a figure. We need to follow Christ
people do need a living physical embodiment of faith they can look at to inspire them to seek the transcendental reality of Jesus
worship women
no thanks I'm good
I plan to rule over a planet of niggercattle
Okay? You do that lil' buddy.
The flaw of physical vessel can easily be fix with power. I care not for the physical. What I want is your soul.
It is the counterfeit church, also known as the whore of Babylon, and the beast that sits on the throne of the dragon (pagan Rome) - Revelation 13:2.
The pope is the anti-(in-place-of)-Christ, he assumes to have the authority of Jesus Christ on earth (Vicarivs Filii Dei), and the Roman number of his name is V+I+C+I+V+I+L+I+I+D+I = 666.
The members of that church institution have this mark in their forehead, meaning in their mind, they believe this institution has the authority of Jesus Christ, and they act accordingly with their right hand. In ancient Christian Europe, every nation was bound to the authority of the papacy, the pope was the kingmaker. No nation of king could "buy or sell" that did not submit to the papacy, he would quickly remove that king or declare war against that nation.
It is a corrupt apostate (fallen) institution and has "become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird." (Revelation 18:2). God will utterly destroy that false church, and I believe we are very close to that happening. The destruction of Mystery Babylon is the next big happening in the book of Revelation.
They need a tyrant in Rome to tell them what to think.
They drone on and on about "the poor" while actually loving poverty and desperation, since that's the only people who'll listen to them. They love to keep their subjects in ignorance and poverty, which is why anywhere on earth the RCC dominates is bound to be a backwards, undeveloped swamp.
If poverty is actually solved (Ireland, Poland) they know their numbers drop off like a stone.
Yup. That's one reason why I left the church.
Thou art Peter. And on this rock I will build my church.
After all. A game with no player is no fun. NPC with no freewill is no fun. There is no joy in ruling a bunch of mindless robot.
it looks like satanic idol worship
Because it is young guy
Whore of babylon in revelation is the entire catholic system
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easier for someone to tldr
And thats why outsourcing your faculties has led us to the brain rot retardation of the modern age, if you access this website youre inherently better than thst, so smarten up and likewise be well established and learned in the Word of God
God desires obedience, not sacrifice anon
Both abhorrently WRONG and blasphemous
doomed to go to hell
No you earn your spot there, try again
that got fixed
Wrong again, the choice is made freely available to have your slate wiped clean by the Judge, Jury, and Executor of Gods Will; Jesus Christ
but you still go to hell unless you profess your belief
Not neccessarily, reread the part where davids firstborn of bathsheba died, the child will not return but he will go to him, evidence of a Just and Righteous God regarding the innocent
Catholics are not christian, they are mystery babylon dressed up in christianity
If youre aware of all these other criticisms of yours, the least amount of effort you can put forth would be to investigate further inquiry, perhaps biblical miracles which oh by the way have a tremendous amount of historical evidence, adchaeological evidence, and literal physical evidences all around you
Everything from the shape of the cosmos being a self contained system, to the worldwide flood, to the red sea crossing, to ample amounts of worldwide testimonies regarding joshuas long day or the crucifixion or the star of bethlehem conjunction of planets, moons, and stars
like what the fuck are we doing here
Distracting you fron the Spiritual insights and Truth about Jesus Christ with useless conjecture and traditions of man being made into a false authority on the livlihood of congregants
Aint that hard to figure out
Go take the jonathan kleck pill about the vatican while we are at it
sda bullcrap
it is an interesting question to what extent the RCC keeps its subjects in poverty however unintentionally, compare and contrast the poverty of Catholic South America to the prosperity of Protestant North America
Fpbp
Over 1 billion Catholics, this is the administration of the whole church. Unfortunately they often do the opposite of what the church needs
Protescvcks hide the truth from you
Christianity in general makes no sense
>every human is born inherently flawed and sinful and doomed to go to hell
>this got fixed though because god incarnated as a man and basically commited ritual suicide to absolve us all of our original sin
>but you still go to hell unless you profess your belief that this human/god blood sacrifice actually happened
'Repent' is misunderstood as a guilt trip for sin, but the original word for repent is Metanoia which means a change of consciousness. i.e. change your consciousness and realize the Kingdom of Heaven Here and Now, the Catholic Church has spent 2000 years persecuting anyone who dares to reveal this truth
I missed the part about Peter having successors
the flood is in the bible so that proves the bible is true
Pretty easy to just include your own flood myth when it predates Christianity by thousands of years
Funny all protestcvcks are so misinformed about the real one holy catholic and apostolic church.
I am the lover of God. All of creation belong to Me. Every single dust in the universe belong to Me. God made this whole world just for Me. Reality itself is a product of love between Me and God.
Normies like people, they don't like ideas or concepts.
Most people who like communism haven't read a book on the topic, they just like Stalin and Lenin.
Same for Nazis, even here on Anon Babble a very small amount of people have ever read Nazi works. People just like Hitler.
Catholicism captures on that and has a guy sit there so normies will be interested in the church and its affairs.
We need to follow Christ
Why do you worship a dead jew? seems gay
ok I'll explain it because everyone on this board is retarded
The actual religion when it comes to canonical christcuckery involves someone succeeding rabbi yeshua and heading his church. Matthew 16 says:
17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven.
18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.
Meaning that 1) rabbi yeshua directly blessed one of his disciples and made him the official leader of the church, that 2) he intended to build a centralized church, and that 3) the leader of this church holds "the keys to the kingdom of heaven", i.e can excommunicate or beatify mortal people. You can see how all three of these are in contrast to our religion here, which rebels against all 3 of them. The actual real religion intends for a pope to centralize and lead it by holding the keys that split the divine realm from the mortal one. The pope (Simeon Peter, a jew) went to Rome and became the Bishop of Rome, which then turned into the modern day Vatican.
A lot of the things revolving the papacy are stupid and rightfully criticized by the orthodox world, namely the infallibility of the pope, but that is not a problem of catholicism. It's just that the entire religion is stupid, with catholicism being the canonical avatar of this stupidity.
The cope of copes. The Bible clearly prophecies that it would be released and the sheep could be fed again.
How much of this charity is helping poor white people in need at white countries?
It seems all this "charitable" work is building unmaintainable infrastructure in african shitholes and, when it inevitably fails, taking everyone to western countries.
His name is Yah Shua. Meaning Yahweh saves. Jews want to promote his name as yeshu because it means blotted out.
Roman catholics worship Mary and saints. And even if they don't believe in God will participate in the worship of saints and Mary. Latin America, Spain and the philpines are hotbeds of this
Pretty easy to play a game of telephone after the tower of babel, and then fuck it up by both entropy as much as self motivated paychopaths who had knowledge of the old world and say, oh idk the luminaries, and then duped their constituents into false religion because they knew when the planets would align/moons eclipse and whored out the masses to their aelf serving agenda in the form of pagan religion
Use your head dum dum
The CHAD Aurelian reunited the Roman Empire from 3 warring factions in 275 A.D.
He believed that part of the split was the different beliefs (it wasn't it was swarthoid blood that should've been culled) in various godson traditions.
He believed his victory was a divine miracle and was a proponent of Sol Invictus/Mithras. He declared it the state religion but was unfortunately assassinated.
Jews infiltrated like anything centralized and wormed their way into the pagan priesthood. Eusebius hyper-Jew revisionist along with son murdering Constantine co-opt Sol Chadvictus into effeminate Nicean Cuckstianity
the tower of bable wasn't real
Relict of the past. Back then, especially before the idea of nation states Catholic Church had massive political and financial powers and could dictate a lot of things, with 90% of population being illiterate peasants with the only source of information about the outside world being the local priest. What priests preached to peasants could overthrow lords and cause rebellions, Kings actually traveled to Rome and fought for months if not years to elect the new Pope (someone that backed them politically). Popes also had power to nominate kings or refuse nominating someone a king so it was a big thing.
Now it's just some old politically irrelevant relict, still kinda meaningful because of sheer wealth it has and basically a wide world spy ring with priests and churches everywhere.
Totally misinformed
All of you are my belonging. All of humanity are my chlldren. All of it.
You are peter[meaning petras, small rock] and upon this Rock[referring to Himself, Jesus, the Stone the builders refused] i will build the church
Oh by thr way, first usecase of ecclesiastica or otherwise church in the septuagint is found when the children of israel are leaving egypt and was defined/translated as a CONGREGATION
So no, its the same house of israel which it always has been, not some new invention of man to further divide and conquer
There is one israel
There is one bride of Christ
If youre a believer in Messiah Jesus Christ the Annointed One of God and youre born again in the Blood of Jesus and have the Holy Spirit within you, youll understand that there is no respect of persons
There is niether jew nor gentile, male nor female, for all are one in Christ Jesus, amen
It's the passing down of Peter's position. Christ gave him the keys to the Kingdom, and gave him the authority to bind and loose what is on earth, which also binds and looses that in Heaven. If there was no capacity to pass down Apostolic Succession besides direct ordination by Christ, then the Apostles would not have been able to choose a replacement for Judas.
why have priests and pastors at all? can't you just talk to Jesus directly, isn't that the point of him?
Nimrod had correspondences with the lord of arata imprinted cruneiform on clay tablets
That was noah btw
Try harder
Bro, do you even know about Peter?
Exactly. Someone here finally understands.
protestants exist because a king wanted a male heir and needed an excuse to be rid of his wives who he blamed for his weak seed. that is why you literally exist.
You are peter[meaning petras, small rock] and upon this Rock[referring to Himself, Jesus, the Stone the builders refused] i will build the church
No. There would have been zero point to renaming Simon if this were the case. In the original Aramaic, he was named Cephas, meaning Rock. Not "small rock", simply Rock. PETROS, not Petras was created as a term when translating to Greek to get the "rock" part across in the meaning without giving him the feminine name "Petra".
The told lies about the catholic church because it's the truth
Noah was a repurposed character from the epic of gilgamesh
Based
Is this same 23 year kld Bulgarian cumt shitposting AGAIN?
Eucharist =/= passover seder and eating of unleavened bread for 7 days
Youre continually sacrificing Jesus with your abomination wafer
Mary was a sinner in need of a Saviour and had more children after Jesus was born
Purgatory is the biggest scam there ever was to sell indulgences
You die and are Judged in an instant
Those who survive the tribulation up until the end of the 5 months of darkness during the concluding phasenof the 3 and 1/2 year tribulation are changed in a "twinkling of the eye"
Maybe step your game up and reread zechariah because protip: there will be a reestablishdd priesthood and all nations will be keeping the feast of tabernacles
I challenge you to find me a singular catholic priest who even acknowledges and participates in the biblical Feasts of the LORD let alone knows or preaches that theyll be practiced in the Kingdom
He left the Church in the hands of those on Earth. Why do you think he even gave his Apostles the capacity to forgive sins in his name? Catholicism is the notion that the priests who studied directly under the Apostles were not apostates for what they believed.
based and gnosis-pilled
Is kike BS, zoom-zoom.
You see, long ago Rome was the home and capital of the Roman Empire, the same empire that btfo the judea state.
So kikes got so butt-hurt that they gladly spread christkikery, a golem-slave religion towards the entire empire, that didn't notice, they didn't know, they couldn't forsee the future.
And when the empire collapse the christkike golems stolen the capital from the empire and make their own.
And that's about it.
The role on the fairy tale cult has lost most of it power over the years.
There's a need of young european demanding that the vatican leave their continent and leave every stolen shit behind, because they had stolen your heritage! And if is not hidden, it has being destroy. That's how those corrupt faggot role-players kike slaves operate after all.
It's basically a continuation of the bureaucracy and leadership structure of the Roman Empire that led the Roman Catholic church after the political state collapsed. Some of it is a direct continuation, other parts are intentionally modelled on the Roman imperial system.
"Pontifex Maximus" was originally the title of the highest priest in the pagan Roman priesthood. Due to this position's power and influence it was politicized and eventually taken as one of the titles and roles of the Emperor. After the empire officially Christianized, they started calling Christian bishops pontiffs. The Bishop of Rome, ie the Pope officially took over the title after the last Roman Emperor.
And his son shem was melchizedek and abraham was a contemporary of noah up until his 50th birthday, and of shem as much is obvious
Try harder
Prodestants exist because the whore of babylon is the mother of all prostitutes and thats exactly what all schisms and protesters are: proclaiming to be different in solidarity whilst maintaining catholic abominations as doctrine
Almost all christians chery pick what they want and dont want
Hardly any actually obey or follow or uphold or do the Laws of God pertsining to them
Find me a christian that keeps sabbath proper, not sunday blasphemy
Find me a christian that keeps the Passover for the days Appointed not a single cracker juice and calls it a day, let alone the other biblical feasts
Find me a christian that knows the full 10 Commandments let alone the hundreds of others outside thst indexing
Historical precedent shows that gatekeeprs have been exploiting the sheep and teaching them all the wrong shit since time and memorial
Hence the Kingdom of 1000 years, lots of learning to be had of how to properly worship and obey the Lord
The only truth about the catholic church is that God Himself will Smite the very foundations and wipe it clean off the face of the earth during the apocalypse
protestcvck logic
Mary was a sinner in need of a Saviour and had more children after Jesus was born
literally missed the post above this wherein i say prodestants are just prostitutes of the whore of babylon catholics
Try harder
entire post skips over the fact Jesus had other brothers and sisters of the same mother and adoptive father
Lol
Lmao
Even
What a waste of time infographic, which oh by the way, nobody is wasting their time on memeflaggot
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And his son shem was melchizedek and abraham was a contemporary of noah up until his 50th birthday
according to...?
Noah didn't exist dude he is a reuse of a fictional character
most of the bible is just repurposed older mythology
Look they are just Catholics.
They need a boot to lick they were bred for this purpose.
Just like you cannot accept that he is divine, they cannot accept living with the divinity in themselves.
So it is projected in this twisted representation in the form of the Pope.
Just read the history of the most notorious ones and tell me if the only think you see is humans role playing for their own benefit no matter how twisted it in some of the cases.
Its all about control, why do you think their priests are not allowed to marry. Its their first sacrifice to show that they are willing to invert one the most basic needs - to love and be loved.
Listen to your gut feeling because the inversion, suppression and the ritualistic release are the same tools they have for each natural instinct and you will never fall prey to them.
if someone is using a memeflag over their geolocation just dont even bother replying
Exactly. However he never assigned divine qualities to Peter, he only made him a mortal and flawed intermediary to the flawless world. Being infallible is literally a quality reserved only to the god of Israel, because by definition he is all-knowing and all-powerful so he cannot physically be fallible because he is by definition the Truth itself, and to prescribe this to a mortal pope would be the equivalent to elevating him into the god-emperor of humanity. Which de facto dethrones the all-knowing god of Israel by sharing the divine power reserved only to him.
But then again this is not making protestantism right, it's just showing how inherently flawed this religion and its concept of divinity are. Either rabbi yeshua was wrong to form the centralized church which would eventually seek to dethrone him, meaning that he (and his father) were both fallible themselves and wrong to do this, or he was right and a mortal god-emperor was the intention here, which contradicts the new testament but is in full alignment to the messianic prophecies of the jewish old testament, with the god-emperor being the jewish messiah to subjugate the filthy goyim. In simpler words, to assign divine qualities to the pope is to say that the old covenant is not broken and that we're still living in the jewish messianic world where *they* are supposed to lead us all. This is the hidden payload of christcuckery, that it secretly worships the old covenant.
Also
Roman Catholics affirm that the first seven ecumenical councils
Canon 6 of the Nicene Council states that Western Christianity shall be administered from Rome and Eastern Christianity shall be admi from Alexandria
If the Roman Pontiff was always universally understood to be the unquestionable singular authority at the head of the Church, this canon would not exist. The bishop of Alexandria would have never been allowed equal authority over the bishop of Rome. The fact is that the early church did not recognize a universal bishop, and the doctrine of the papacy was a later addition.
Honestly I truly pity them because they are ones that are truly lost. They seek this and the system consumes them.
Just like most of the psychiatrists are ones in need for help, yet they demolish their patients
Broken cannot fix broken
What historical basis is their for a universal bishop? What historical basis is there for papal supremacy? The Bishop of Rome is merely the first among equals.
And now the cope
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They also sing to lucifer and the devil:
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Take the jonathan kleck pill::
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Primordial Christianity is almost some totally different to the stuff we have now.
Orthodox should be closest but they also scrubbed a lot of the teachings and replaced them with pagan ones at least it never consolidated into one as the West
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As hominem shit
I am literally citing the early councils you dumb fucking memeflag.
As coaches not players for you simple Minded plebs. How did Jesus hear Matthew's prayer despite not being physically there?
And now the cope
You didn't answer my question. You made a definitive statement about Noah and Abraham or whatever and I asked you, according to what? Where did you get that information from?
You're refusing to answer, so I'll accept your concession
Try harder
Seems like you have to try harder actually, since you couldn't answer my question.
Or is spouting a bunch of mythology and acting like it's real history all you can do when challenged on your beliefs?
Youre continually sacrificing Jesus with your abomination wafer
If you have a river to draw water from, have you built new rivers if you build aqueducts leading the water to a city? We do not hold the belief that we continuously sacrifice him, but that we continuously draw from the ocean of Christ's Mercy.
Mary was a sinner in need of a Saviour and had more children after Jesus was born
If the Ark of the Covenant, that housed the Ten Commandmants, was holy enough that anyone touching it would be killed, why would you expect what held Christ himself to be filthy with sin? The angel that greeted Mary, telling her she was full of grace before Baptism had been introduced to the world, would disagree with you.
Purgatory is the biggest scam there ever was to sell indulgences
Christ warned multiple times of post-death purification. If he told us we would be placed in jail until we paid the last cent, the fact that the last cent could be paid at all therefore implies a non-eternal punishment.
Find me a christian that keeps sabbath proper, not sunday blasphemy
Christ is the Lord of the Sabbath and rose on a Sunday, Christian communities were celebrating the Lord's Day on "the day after the Sabbath" and were not condemned by the Apostles for it, God did not give us a calendar but merely told us we may work 6 days and rest on the seventh, Paul warned about others making a big deal over pedantry on dates likes this (including the Lord's Day) and told Christians not to listen to them
Find me a christian that keeps the Passover for the days Appointed not a single cracker juice and calls it a day, let alone the other biblical feasts
Christ IS the Passover. Have you read the Book of Hebrews?
Find me a christian that knows the full 10 Commandments let alone the hundreds of others outside thst indexing
By the latter half of this sentence, do you mean the elements of Mosaic Law about ritual impurity? Once again, Book of Hebrews.
Catholics don't worship the pope. He's an advisor.
Buddha too claims reality warping miracles like teleporting across the Ganges. Just sayin
broken cannot fix broken
Alas, behold the Man Who was broken and bruised for our transgressions! How they lashed Him with a cat of nine tails and pierced Him through the wrist, not the hands as false iconography proclaims, NOT A SINGLE BONE IS BROKEN OF THE GOOD SHEPPHERD AND WE WILL BEAR WITNESS TO THE SCARS HE HAS JUST AS THOSE APOSTLES AMEN
1 Peter talks about it actually
21 Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22 who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, with angels, authorities, and powers having been subjected to him.
but they also scrubbed a lot of the teachings and replaced them with pagan ones
This is called syncretism and was done in the more culturally-pagan societies (like us) because people rebelled every time that they tried imposing the bible in full. Even to this day right now you can see grannies leave food on the graves, which is a form of idolatry and heresy, but the church cannot do anything about it because violating this tradition would make these grannies offended enough to shun the religion as a whole. Imagine if a priest went to a burial and told the grieving grannies to stop putting food on the grave because they'll burn in hell for an eternity. So, the church opts for a soft syncretic approach and pretends that it isn't happening and everyone is happy. This is in contrast to the catholic world where they actually just burned them.
Seethe and cope protestcvck kek
The Pope served as a Shadow Emperor for centuries. His office was mostly political, with religion serving as a base of authority to keep the christian kings (and their subjects) on a tight leash. The Pontifex Maximus was not an image of Peter, but an image of Caesar, who had the exact same title.
It's always about power and control. And as protestant sects and heresies began to multiply, the Vatican created some "holy orders" that were actually prototypal Intelligence Agencies, with spies and agents infiltrating problematic governments and destroying them from within.
Catholicism is the truth
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Christianity in general makes no sense
No, you are just a retard who doesn't truly understand Christianity.
every human is born inherently flawed and sinful and doomed to go to hell
Yes, but think of hell as being dark emptiness, forever separated from God's light and love rather than the pop culture depiction of hell where Satan pokes you with a pitchfork.
You are a flawed, dirty, imperfect sinner and God is perfect light and love. You can't become one with him in your current state. And you can't get to where you need to be just by being a good boy and avoiding sin (however, you should strive to be a good righteous person anyway, theosis is basically Christianity expert mode).
The only way to actually achieve salvation is through God. He can and will forgive your sins, and all that you need to do is accept his love and repent for your sins and ask for forgiveness for them.
but you still go to hell unless you profess your belief that this human/god blood sacrifice actually happened
Yes. You have free will and used it to choose to not follow the one path that leads you away from hell.
Imagine sin is a sickness that you have. Hell is dying from this disease. God is a doctor who has the cure and is freely offering it to you, but isn't going to hold you down and force it down your throat against your will.
Protestcvcks thinking they are more intelligent than the saints and church fathers then establish a new Christian sect only to get caught sexually harassing their church member ir embezzling their own church funds
PROTESTCVCK LOGIC detected kek
Oh no no no no
Amen.
You reminded me of my grandmother Anon, thank you!
I didn’t knew that terminology, thank you.
“Break his head, but don’t break his habits” they didn’t had many options.
The food thing is remembrance and we share what is the most precious for a poor nation - the food.
you're a retard you just don't understand
every answer to my statements is "Yes"
ok
Try HARDER protestcvcks
The church helped facilitate the decline of Rome by its 10% tithe. It created a deflationary environment that sucked dry the economy. Less and less money for aqueducts or military foundries
but think of my harem goyyy!
Spiritually it makes very little sense. Objectively though, central authority is useful.
How much history was saved by the Vatican and its monks? How much knowledge was shared by the church enforcing Latin as our lingua franca? They treated the cross like a trademark you needed permission to use, which seems wrong, but that kept Europe from splintering into a multitude of cults like you see in America (imagine that over 1000+ years). How much good has been done to our gene pool by banning cousin incest and organising crusades to keep out the Muhammadans? Say what you like about the Vatican, most of it will probably be true, but it's been a benefit to Europe. It unified us like a far less evil version of the EU.
Today it's a degenerate institution though. Their main goal is maintaining the post WW2 orthodoxy and safeguarding white replacement.
Agreed
What historical basis is there for papal supremacy or a universal bishop? Why should I be Catholic over Orthodox?
Wait with the decisions taken with the council of Nicaea alone aren’t Catholics falling to the description of a cult?
just except my monopolized communion goy based on what I said
do it or I'll excommunicate you stinking goy!
false equivalency fallacy, the cope, the post, and the projection
Just like my western movies, coolio
God did not give us a calandar
How stupid are you to actually believe this? Try rereading the torah and bear in mind all the apostles and Jesus Himself kept the zaddok calandar of the sadducees, hence why the pharisees wanted to crucify Him before (((their))) passover, the sadducees controled the temple and the ordinances thereof
Thara pretty much the only point im going to address, everything else youve stated was pretty much a was of time conjecture
Christ is the passover
JESUS CHRIST is the passover lamb as prophesied, He kept it and literally Said " DO THIS IN REMEMBERANCE OF ME" thereby fulfilling the law: i.e. giving it greater meaning and depth, a blossomed rose instead of a budding one
paul warned
You misunderstood paul, who also kept the sabbath, who also took and fulfilled a nazarite vow in order to dismiss thr claim then as much as now that he did not CHANGE any of the law
Sabbath does not grant you Salvation, niether does circumcision, his primary thesis was that the law educates it does not save, rather it condemns you and you therein require atonement for your sins against God and man
You really need to relearn paul
once again book of hebrews
Once again read the letter of the law and Jesus having Implicitly Stated, "think NOT I have come to do away with the law or the prophets"
Bear in mind the latter use of the word FULFILL does not mean to fill a glass full then have the waiter serving you return it to the kitchen
The root of the definition implies greater depth, which He Gave, and a Higher Standard, which He Elucidated
Hence
A man who looks upon a woman with lust commits adultery in his heart
Well before it was just dont commit adultery
So explain that one genius
You know the conspiracy theory about how Paul secretly twisted and manipulated Christ's teachings because was really trying to create a subversive fake church?
That's all obvious bullshit because the other early Christians including the remaining disciples and many other people who knew Jesus first hand and directly witnessed his teachings were generally fine with all of the stuff Paul was doing and saying. If he was just making stuff up and pretending that it was the real truth, all of the other Christians would have called him out on it and condemned his teachings as heresy.
We know this because there were people who did precisely that. Particularly Marcion of Sinope, who wrote his own "gospel" that he claimed contained the true teachings of God. And unlike Paul, Marcion was widely condemned by the other Christians as a heretic and blasphemer and was excommunicated from the Church.
Marcion's false teachings are the source for most of this gnostic demiurge nonsense.
You are the one who fell for the made up subversive psyop false religion.
Yes. Also, saint veneration is something I have a huge problem with. It's no different than the worship of the Powerful Dead, common in Paganism's ancestral worship.
Based zoomer waking up. Take the Gnostic pill young one.
It's all happening. Jesus Christ told us and we didn't listen. Now is the time we listen
Not everyone can induce hope and faith in themselves.
A lot need external input for the body to start this process.
I look it as a crutch, I don’t mock or judge people for using one. But I will not remain silent when some is using it but doesn’t need it or ones that mocks people in need for it.
I cannot believe how chill is the site on such theological topics, yet so many people are effortposting, nice
Orthodoxy is the only way.
Protestants are literal faggots and cringe, no need to belabor that point, supporting both LGBTQ and female church leaders. Enough said.
Classifying Catholicism as Christianity is akin to classifying abortion as "reproductive healthcare", it is in name only. I am baffled how any Catholic can still follow it and when it is so fundamentally irreconcilable with what they read in the Bible, if they ever actually bothered to read it themselves.
These institutions exist to give Christianity a bad name and ensnare those who are actually seeking a relationship with God.
The trinity is a lie. Cool it with the ultimatums. Jesus was a heavenly being, he came down in a BUBBLE DOUG.
You don't need religion to follow Christ
I'm not a catholic, numbnuts.
cool it with the anti-semitism
The turn of phrase is “judge, jury and EXECUTIONER”. Not executor
I’m disappointed why they chose another old fart over our cardinal who is youngest of all in catholic church. What the point of making choosing boomers which anyway would die in next 10-15 years?
All authority comes from Christ, not these LARPing faggots. It's a disgrace this conclave sits on trillions of dollars. Christ is King, demolish all idolaters and false prophets
what exactly is the point of its existence
It's a place gays go to pretend to be straight.
you willfully and full well know and acknowledge the consequences for your actions
Hell isn't real
Im not glad or pleased that you made this choice in retrospect of the reality that is going to be your destiny should you choose not to repent
Again, is that it? "You don't believe what I believe so you are going to burn forever"
That's not a very compelling argument. Honestly you guys are more insufferable than even Muslims in this regard.
I KNOW I'm going to heaven
The fact that you can't see the hilarity of this statement is baffling
If all you want to do is whine about things maybe tumblr or plebbit will tickle your fancy
Real men move on
Actually we were having an argument about the historicity of various biblical myths until you conceded the argument several posts ago and told me to just go google it, since you don't actually know what you're talking about
K go read the book titled "the seed of the woman" by Arthur c. Custance
Watch the star of bethlehem documentary by Fedrick a. Larson
Again, anything by jonathan kleck whom ive named multiple times
Try, Patterns of Evidence, mightve been something else, cant recall, but hey those were all 5 second google queries in the amount of time you took to be an idiot once again you couldve already consensua filtered whether or not it was worth your time
Anything else?
Oh right the lord of aratta, big brain think, right right
en.m.wikipedia.org
source? SOURCE???!?!
Its all so tiresome
Try the "God in a nutshell" series as he lends himself to alot more of your preconcieved sumerian/assyrian/babylonian/ and other pagan cultural historicity in light of the bible
How does ego death and rebirth happen? Seems I just have to die and wait for reincarnation to kick in, forever and ever, same loop
K go read...
Nah I'm not that interested
: )
muslims
Oh yeah since you made mention and while we are on that note of your projections ill take a moment to remind you and everyone itt that islam is an invention of the vatican whos sole purpose was to displace the byzantines and reconquer the Holy Land
Bankrolled directly from their coffers from the one merchant milf wife of his who had her connections back to rome, the more you know!
Sorry, but you wont find that in a history textbook because thanfully the winners have always been the (((good))) guys to boot, who wouldve imagined that!
Nobody worship pope. Dumbass. Religion has a figurehead. They make decisions and stuff
other religions are made up to control people and exert power throughout history
not mine though
OK
the church and papacy have been established by Christ, retard
It makes a lot more sense when you realize that the Roman Catholic Church is just the continuation of the Roman empire.
Somewhat, but teshuva in the hebrew means to turn away from
I.e. when God repented from smiting the children of israel after moses begged Him not to do so
Repent in the colloquial sense is to turn away from sin, as Jesus put it to the adulteress woman, sin no more
A change of consciousness is more a suitable term to being born again in the spirit and as paul said putting away the carnal man and embracing the spiritual man
We require the Laws of God and Grace in order to learn and uphold as well as to Gods Forgiveness for any transgressions thereafter
Its all so simple really
Have you read the gospel of john? Nicodemus asked the same questions
The Epic of Gilgamesh is based on the story of Noah.
Mary never sinned. God the Father preserved her in advance to bear Jesus Christ, God the Son. Only a pure vessel could bear God the Son.
The Epic of Gilgamesh is based on the story of Noah.
one predates the other by a considerable timescale
Have you read the gospel of john
what's it say? I don't read anything unless specifically looking to verify context
Show me proof.
not mine though
Have you read any of my posts directly criticizing the catholic stigma that has plagued my faith since time and memorial?
Is it really my fault i want to be faithful to God but because of some glownigger gatekeeper of antiquity i have to instead recieve the generational burden of my ancestors and be persecuted because id rather uphold the truth?
The millenial Kingdom of Jesus Christ is going to be paramount and full of reconciliation
All evil pyramid hierarchy and authoritarianism is of the luciferian capstone
Jesus is the cornerstone those masonic builders refused and is rather an inverted pyramid where we all depend on Him
Remember kids, to be Reconciled with God means you had to have had a relationship with the Father to begin with; food for thought
And no man proceedeth to the Father except by Him, Jesus Christ
So no need for any middle man, Jesus is the be all end all
And when He Says thats He is the alpha and omega or rather aleph and the tav, thats a paleohebrew mystery pictogram going back as far as the sages have asked what is the "et" or aleph and tav from genesis and onwards
Aleph meaning strength of an ox of just strength
And tav meaning a cross
First line of genesis is a prophecy of Jesus Christ as much as the first word when you break down to individual pictogram meaning of the letters
Youre timeline is billions of years
Our timeline is 6000 years
We are not the same
Its a short read, the whole gospel of john
kingjamesbibleonline.org
^passage is here from chapter 3
Mary was a sinner, Jesus even had to rebuke her in the gospels and explained that His mother and fsther and brother and sisters etc were those that did the Will of the Father of which her biological children were attempting to get His attention away from, reread the gospels my guy
Sounds like religion to me
nooo I don't have a church or anything I just go directly to god
now listen to me literally spout religious rhetoric at you about what I personally believe about Jesus Christ and his Kingdom blah blah blah
yeah, religion
your religion
just as made up as the rest of them, moreso actually since it's literally just what you personally think
Our timeline is 6000 years
yeah and that's retarded
The Church, at its core, is a European institution. We (the Apostolic Churches) have monarchical bishoprics because that is what Europeans of a millenia and a half ago had and were used to as signs of authority.
We certainly could have a Church where we do what the Baptists do and have a bunch of dudes sitting together playing guitar in a strip mall.
But the cost of that is authority. Both magesterial and within church hierarchy. Give that up, and you'll end up with your Church aggressively seeking trans, women, and sodomite clergy. Something all prot denominations currently have. It's the same reason all European/Anglosphere heads of state live in palaces, despite most having abandoned their monarchy.
Oh, and literally no one is worshipping him.
Also read the book i mentioned here: The seed of the woman
In it it discusses how that whole preservation process you just mentioned is carried forth being that our dna has been corrupted and immaculate conception of Jesus from the Holy Spirit lent to a preservation and no sinful expression in His dna etc
Its a fascinating read, the author started his inquiriy based on studying why we sweat from the garden and sweat in general
And the other fella i mentiones with God in a nutshell series has more interesting takes on things like neanderthals being highly advanced aged people, where the brow ridge and nose and ears continue to grow as we age, imagine thatbprocess over hundreds of years
Giants, giants everywhere, and lost of biblical archaeology, hes a cool dude, trey smith i think
Protestant retardation infected Bulgaria
Grim
Someone had to start the gospels retard. That someone needs a hierarchic structure to organize that spread and ensure it keeps being maintained to the original standard. The church has managed to do that for 2000 years. What have you managed to do for 20 days straight? Yeah, thought so.
Everything is controlled by secret societies.
Everything is scripted.
We were all born into the NWO.
They even had females perfected in mainstream secret societies in the 1700's.