Why does this happen?

Why does this happen?

snork women are the worse in the world when it comes to "feminism"

snork men turned incels due to this, leading to disliking/hating snork women

honestly I am grateful the level of mind virus in South Korea has not reached the West. Yeah it's bad here but not that bad

MOUSE
UTOPIA

AND GUESS WHAT, YOU'RE IN ONE TOO

Any country that introduces feminism is doomed. There's nothing they can do about it other than eliminate feminism. But that's taboo to such countries, so they will die. There's nothing more to it.

I do not understand. I've seen SK chicks on Kpop bands. Are the men dumb?

Lack of Islam

arr rook same

experiment never reproduced

womp womp

14 large isn't enough to cover a divorce lawyer, a 'good' one anyways.
there is no escape.

probably because they aren't fucking retards.. $14,000 for a kid is nigger reasoning

Lack of a community support system. Too much capitalism.
Sadness due to the great awakening causing awareness of how bad things really are.

intelligent women dont have children

Women’s autonomy will destroy the species.

Like if you are trying to bribe people to get married or have kids it's over. The cost of living is probably too high, young people out of college probably have zero time to think about dating because they have to work so much, kpop industry ruining a lot of young girls because they focus on that and a lot have contracts to where they can't date because the loser fans want to think they could get them, a good amount of women go into it and don't make anything out of it.

What is $14,000 for two people, and the likelihood of a kid which is what this is really for. A year of expenses even if you budget?

Bring in saaars

Nationalism is the answer.

It was literally reproduced several times, and once with rats. Shut the fuck up. Read the goddamn study.

Make women need men again lol, how can people be so blind?

It doesnt matter if it sound spoilt the world needs to make single income households possible that can keep up atleast some of the lifestyle they see on instagram otherwise its importing third world browns forever.
People know now how much life is out there for the beautiful people and nepo babies they aren't just ganna give up and baby factory hoping that their kids roll a better spawn. They would rather do the million other things that can distract a modern person.

get 14k

lose 140k

The decline in fertility has been going on since the 60s.

No the answer is destroy all HR lady and fakework jobs and watch all the men working real education jobs like accountant, engineer etc. or tradie jobs women can't do like plumber, guy who lifts heavy shit etc. suddenly become super attractive as those women's only option.

Stop paying them to exist, the dumb bitches are not smart enough to get that they're entitled to ultra megachad and their wages pretty much 1:1 are stolen from men's wages were the workforce not artificially enlarged to accommodate these women.

Boomers themselves might be happier as profit margins would dramatically increase without all the female dead weight.

Children cost 300,000+ from birth to age 18, and that doesn't include a penny for college savings. That's less than 5% of the cost of a child. inb4 'be grateful' niggerfaggots (you) me

We've now introduced masculism too. So things will only get worse as the two sides fight it out instead of removing the original problem.

Wrong retard. It's TOO much "community support system" namely for women. They have too much government and corporate backing, ensuring they always have the upper hand in negotiations against the average man. Only a man with extreme social currency, or inherited wealth can compete, which is why they all want to be in harems for the same 20% of men, or die alone with their cats while lobbying for more feminism in government. Women will never compromise as long as there's no stick, and governments aren't willing to offer anything but carrot to them. Men will never compromise as long as there's no carrot, and government is only willing to offer us more stick.

Yeah but what does pedo mean here because western millennial roasties are trying to make it "a man who is attracted to women younger than 40" or whatever.

the simp enters the thread

The SSA numbers are not reliable at all, most of those countries are in the middle of civil wars and have no way to make formar registrations of anything, I remember even the more organized one's being questionable with nigerian pages questioning the 200M population size with a lot of data ranging from id's to votes, to satellite images

I can bank $14,000 in about 4 months by myself. No need for me to sign away half my net worth and future earnings to a disloyal woman for that.
Now if Trump were to give me and my potential wife say a $300,000 tax credit over the course of 18 years for raising a high IQ white child then we'd be talking.
That's how child tax credits should be done. The more likely your child is to be a net contributor to society, the more you receive.

Women working and motherhood not being lionized. It's perhaps possible to have women in the workforce and a decent fertility rate but certainly not when having a career is viewed as higher status than having several children.

Bullshit. It's women who control reproduction. Women don't want kids. Women abort. Women have like 10 different forms of birth control.
Men are second class citizens in all western countries.

TF you need to pay alimony if you didn't have any biological children?

Children don't cost that much, women do.

experiment never reproduced

How do we tell him?

They should collectively rape them into submission. Damn fools can't even think properly.

mb guys im one of the only few korean males who has sex
I make all the korean women not want to have sex with other guys due to hypergamy
unfortunately I am infertile due to blasting tren

The solution is to stop giving women preferential treatment at all levels of society.
Get rid of no fault divorce.
Get rid of female preference in child custody.
Put women in the draft.

Women aren't equal, they're above you.

Modern humans simply do not want children. They are a responsibility and modern humans simply do not want to inconvenience themselves. That’s why fertility has been dropping like a stone in ALL nations. Even shitholes are slowly dropping.

south korean women are unironically all in a cult that want to kill all men, why the fuck would you want to marry one

I read a post a while ago that still keeps me up at night.
The gist was that animals in zoos don't reproduce not as a result of stress (although maybe some do), but because they don't have the normal means of reproducing their mating behaviors. Something like how an animal may need to wander into another's territory while in heat or something, and the limited space of zoos prevent that. Basically saying "the animals aren't reproducing because their natural dating instincts are being interfered with". And then they connected this to humans who may have not been taught the "right" way to socialize, or flirt, or attract attention, and most people handwave it away as "it's something everyone figures out, who cares". Not realizing that people "figure it out" from observing and being in those situations, and if you're removed from those for whatever reason, you don't have the chance to observe and learn in the first place.

Men are "supposed" to approach, sure. But they receive signals from women showing their interest first so the guy doesn't have to face rejection, and something as subtle as sending signals can let the girl play it off as nothing serious if they don't get picked up on. No one really loses out.
But girls don't know how to send the right signals now, and boys don't know how to pick up on them. Not to mention how much of our interaction is online now, not even getting into the lack of third places available for most of the population.

I believe the issue isn't a financial one. People tell themselves that as a cope. It's a deep seated cultural / societal level issue.
+ coupled with the fact that in the past, people just fucked and babies happened. Now with birth control they can "choose" to get pregnant and people aren't "choosing" to get pregnant anymore (now relying on the financial cope).
But again, the finances can't be it because the poorest societies / people have skyrocketing births.
tl:dr; throwing money at it won't fix the problem.

it's because of the internet. the Korean women have seen the bbc and are refusing to procreate with lesser males.
before you go

muh leaf muh rake muh jew

I'm actually a vpnnigger from istanbul.

You understimate how much more men don't want kids or will run away from raising them than women

actually no, we can fix the problem without removing any womens rights. just strip them of unequal privilege's like gender quotas for hiring, and they`ll have to compete on equal footing with men. which will make it more difficult for women to get jobs since there will be no more need to create lazy girl jobs to meet quotas.

By default these are all men that women ALLOW to have children to begin with.

as recently as 1997, if Korean woman had a child with a foreign man, the child could not get a korean citizenship.
because the child wasn't born through the inferiour gook "man" 's sperm.
even now, Korea is the only country in OECD with no European sperm bank. they think it's too "early" for that.
south korea is a one giant DEI system holding up these inferiour loser gooks because they have minus sexual market value.

run away from

In Australia 40% of women initiate divorce. It's almost like flipping a coin whether she'll leave you or not. You have better odds with russian roulette.

That's how child tax credits should be done. The more likely your child is to be a net contributor to society, the more you receive.

Blacks get additional taxes for having children.

Why does this happen?

social media culture leads to the perpetual adolescent who refuses to grow up, the thought of giving birth and raising children horrifies the perpetual adolescent

Women don't allow anything, they comodate anything for their partners, always been like that, you have a shitload of single mothers around because it takes that little to convince them to have kids, the guys don't want kids because they don't want to raise or deal with the costs that simple, if they wanted too its easy to convince them

Maybe in your nigger chimp gorilla society. We all know blacks run away from fatherhood. I do however would like kids

South Korea and China literally paying their citizens to have sex

it doesn't work

This is pretty solid evidence to predict WW3 is happening soonish. Both of these countries desperately need a war time economy/society. The only reason China hasn't started is because it's not confident in its power. America and Russia can start a forever war, but China might genuinely lose territory since their military is poor in power.

the Korean women have seen the bbc

So much power. Its all starting to make sense.

I wouldn't marry for $14k.

every country that has accepted feminism is experiencing plummeting birth rates

all the countries that haven’t done this have normal birth rates

GEE WIZ GUYS I DUNNO IT MUST BE THE VAX OR SOMETHING HURRR DURRR

Educated*

No one has free time to go out and meet people, especially young people who are expected to basically commit their most fertile/vrile years to advancing your career so you can work less when your 50. This destroys societies. It's probably diet and microplastics too as you see fertility going down world wide, but the countries that are collapsing the fastest are the ones that put so much pressure on young people and not enough free time to do much else. It's honestly a problem created by boomers in a lot of these places, they suck up all the wealth and then expect the younger people to do more work than they ever did, while getting paid less in comparison to the cost of living.

I need $1 million minimum to marry a modern women. $3 million minimum to marry a South Korean woman. I'm not sharing that money. The woman needs to 100% pre-pay for the divorce.

tl:dr; throwing money at it won't fix the problem.

correct, socialization is broken, alienation and mental illness and school/job pressure have taken over, the Amish point the way out

14k handout
gov't taxes like 4k of it
now 10k
wtf how did this happen desu

Why? because a kid costs a lot more than 14 fucking thousand.

Men are "supposed" to approach, sure. But they receive signals from women showing their interest first so the guy doesn't have to face rejection, and something as subtle as sending signals can let the girl play it off as nothing serious if they don't get picked up on. No one really loses out.

But girls don't know how to send the right signals now, and boys don't know how to pick up on them. Not to mention how much of our interaction is online now, not even getting into the lack of third places available for most of the population.

very good post
we need the right environment, a return to trad old world zoning so we can have local third places to bump into people we recognize and build social networks. not drive to a strip mall surrounded by strangers. but leftoids call that "walkable" and then make it gay and try to take our cars and the wef calls it 15 min cities and makes it dystopian. we just need smarter zoning that knows when to pullback sometimes and let communities develop organically.

and people need to be taught the basics of flirting. because it only works when women and men alike know what to do. and we forgot how because there is no environment for it to happen naturally anymore.

14 thousand would barely cover the hospital bill for the birth here in Weimerica.

Young people need to start reproducing because boomers need to be taken care of for the next 20-30 years of entitlements!

These women are considered hideously fat by Korean standards. youtube.com/watch?v=KRsUsRvbBV0

How many times do these faggots have to be told throwing money at the issue isn’t going to turn the ship around? Women have been told for decades they can do anything the boys can do, and do it better if they apply themselves (with substantial help in the form of quotas & biased universities/companies). What did they think was going to happen? That women would just work, get bored and go back to being baby makers? They’ll never do it now, they’ve had the taste of “freedom” and they won’t go back, might as well accept things as they are & focus on the current tinier generation of women coming to that decision about career vs motherhood and beg them to be moms, but it still might not work when cunty feminists are everywhere telling them that’s a waste of womanhood.

I think around 19-20 years of age, people get cognizant on their overall surroundings and costs. No longer can you break something or ignore it without thinking about "I hope this won't ruin me".
Extrapolate and multiply on everything, really. Utilities, insurance, rent, maintenance etc. This drains people's money and the supply-side isn't leaving much room for purchasing-power parity.

Health problems: congenital, organs, teeth, eyesight, muscles, ligaments etc.
All for someone to have their perception of the world turned upside-down is the pain & costs of something relating to health. When that happens, more people are into their "I should've died instead of enduring this" thoughts than is let to believe.

Trauma & introspection; forget yourself, what about caring about another living human?
More costs, more tension/frustration/nerves/fatigue/etc, more resources drained for a tolerable life.
For every father and/or mother that had a mental breakdown or multiple mental breakdowns, I bet you the lives on everyone on Earth that their children that endured those outbursts are, either single or, in a relationship without wanting kids.

It took me a while to understand it but I think the explanation is closest to the truth: the drug consumption in Northern America and Europe is translating into *this* how many people want to die and leave this planet, this conscience. The "pleasure" of drug consumption is the tranquilizer effect, with the after-effects being what's hastening the process.
If the supply of drugs would be tainted with poison, people would still take them after the fact. Why? It's not the pleasure – it's the "I want out" message. It's the "I have had enough of taxes, rent, health pain, nerves, tension, frustration, day-in n' day-out, same traffic, same worries – I want out."

The truth of the matter is, Anon – a lot of people right now are DONE. They're done.
Yes, yes, although they'll never admit it out loud, they are done.

well yeah, she gets financially rewarded with half a mans stuff to break up the family. its a big payday for a lot of women. totally obsolete law in todays world.

no shit

decline may be irreversible once fertility gets as low as S Korea,

the carrousel

Bruh they need at least a quarter million. Wtf is 14000 going to do?

C O N S T A N T
S U P E R V I S I O N

Korean women are far left.

Korean men are far right.

That's how.

We got to this high number by a mixture of subsistence farmers making a ton of kids to have workforce and this custom dying out as urbanization took hold, its kinda inevitable that will happen as everywhere gets urbanized and even people who wants kids have no more than a couple

instagram.com/ssunbiki

theres not enough women you couldnt pay $100,000

majority of women are career women with big money or celebrities how can you pay one to marry somebody

they all have tens of thousands in plastic surgery

they have no cultural idea to get married they only want to make money

its womens fault

you need to take money from women on their high horse not give them more to where they just take the money and leave you

women will only do that if u offer them money they will take it and go back to being a single model and divorce you right after being paid if it was high enough which is hard actually to offer women tons of cash to 25 million people its further elevatign womens status

Exactly. Until you remove all the incentives for women to leave and not have kids you're going to have women leaving and not having kids. It's not rocket science, you're literally rewarding them for not reproducing.

Fertile women are considered fat

Why no babies?

"UTOPIA"

Locked in a prison with no nature or possibility of natural behavior

Prison becomes 18000x more crowded than what normal mice territories are

No toys

The Mice go crazy in their Hell prison

"Wow this really teaches us a lot about SoCiEtY"

How well are we thinking here? Last time I checked the 19th was still in place. Can we hire some good Jewish PR company to pull it off?

ishowspeed brought millons to a mid korean girl and she rejected him

hes literally the richest streamer

her tiktok channels were too big and had too much makeup selling and stuff that she didnt even consider anyone else

you cant pay them millions they have more than enough they will keep doing their single life unless it was forced traditional with church or government

and put a tax on them more

Do we really think that when farmers had children in the past, they only did it while they were cynically thinking

I can't wait to exploit these little fucks for free labor

? Were they really that different from us?

I think they had children because they wanted to have children and the economic benefits; when and if they existed; were just incidental, only helpful in that birthing more children became easier. The point was always the children themselves.

And I think modern people would love to have children just as much, if only they felt like they could.

I hate niggers

Nope. I mean maybe, but anyone who thinks like that won't give birth to enough ground troops to stop the people who don't, so why negotiate for a faggy middle ground when men don't have to? Men do not need to negotiate and wanting to negotiate out of 'good will' is a mental illness. Negotiations should be forced upon you, not engaged in out of 'muh empathy'.

Western men really don't want to put women in chains because, if they did, there is not a fucking thing woman could do to stop it. If 10% of men actually wanted to put women in chains, there isn't a fucking thing 100% of women could do to stop them, objectively.

That's the final redpill. Incels are not women's enemies, they are simps. The Taliban are women's enemy, as well as heroes to all MANkind for the way they treat women. There really is no future where Taliban thinking doesn't win. Their birthrate is too high. We couldn't beat them with tanks, artillery, helicopters, planes and all the money on Earth. Why would we suddenly be able to win in 50 years when men are second class citizens in their own countries, drafted to fight wars on behalf of women, are punished for their loyalty, rewarded with endless pussy and, more importantly, happiness from not hearing women yap constantly, and the average man fighting for the TaliCHADS is in his teens or twenties while the average western soldier is outnumbered by him 20 to 1 and os pushing 60? Like fuck man, feminism is on track for this right now. Every metric says it's inevitable. Respecting women means suicide, hating them means you get to win and be happy. What is the rational for defending women's rights when they are inevitably going to lose according to all statistics those very feminists countries produce?

My words are so objectively correct, that I got banned for saying them. Disagree with me and you empathize with a Anon Babble janitor.

No, there are no clubs anymore. People don't go out to socialize. They work, eat, shit and sleep.

This is because the government has allowed unfettered capitalism to ruin their people.

handout for 1/20th the cost of raising a kid doesn't get people to have kids

whoa that's crazy

Everything is corrupt.

its cultural women dont want kids

simple as

having kids is free as elon has said

The women are useless whores dude. Does your mouth water at the idea of kissing a girl who sucked 5 other dudes cocks? No wonder japan worships teens. You people are filthy. What? Nobody wants to be a faggot and date the used up sloppy 5th old whore? Retard.

gooks will try anything except letting more pinoys or hindus migrate to their country and become citizens

quite literally irrational suicide

Anyone who uses the phrase like is a fucking moron. Learn proper english you stupid fucker.

Compromising on genetic fitness to women is the equivalent of compromising on paternity to me. They'll do it for a price, but it's a price no one normal can afford, and the richer the individual is, the higher this price will be. You can't get a normal roastie to compromise on a none Chad for $20,000, and you can't get a rich roastie to do it for a $100,000. Having kids is free, the poorest women have the most kids. The answer is not more money for women, it's less money for women, because only if their livelihood is threatened will they stop chasing the high of being with Chad.

You could however solve the issue by giving money to men and mandating that the money can't be taken away by divorce court. You wouldn't even need to mandate that the men use it in any particular way; if women knew we had it, they'd figure out a way to come get it, and if the only way to get it is to stay married, they'll stay married. With those conditions the men will want children and the women will grudgingly provide them.

Children are produced when men have resources and women pay for them with their holes, which inevitably leads to children. It's what worked for the last couple million years of human existence.

You can go visit subsistence farming communities in poor countries to this day, including my shithole and the indian subcontinent getting to its billion to see how they think, its very much like I said, they don't have any education whatsoever they just have sex and naturally get kids from it with no thought of contraceptives, again this are people who in the past didnt even knew how to read and nowadays most that still exist in SSA and other places still don't, they may not think of exploiting the kids but its the natural way it goes

I understand these authors have their bills & mortgages to pay but what irks me is that they're not really onest and leave everything in an open question cliffhanger or clichés (from blame game to asking questions as if readers are asked a questionnaire).

Letting in jeets is a fate worse than suicide. It would be literally better to return to monke and give a piece of land back to nature than to give it to a jeet.

Besides its bullshit there is still more people than ever, a slight bump backwards is no biggie.
We can survive whatever demographic crises we face, what we cant survive is a replacement that happens if we let the non natives in.

if they print the money to pay for the womens 14,000$ then that just means the inflation will go up the male will be unable to afford anything

the man is payign for it its simping to give checks for marriage

gooks love niggers

a white guy do this same thing

women dont want chads they want single free life without kids and a lot of money

only man want stacies women dont want chads

i agree with that

that would work better

Because it doesn't pay even a decent part of the expenses in child raising. 10% rebate is 90%+ cost on the family regardless.

I make 14k a month. Make that 440k and I'll consider

how do we make more koreans?

just change the definition of what a korean is!

Is this how much money they're paying and then saying that bribing people for kids doesn't work? This is pathetically low

raising children is free you retard

young males cant acount how they paying for their starbucks drink tomorow let alone 18 years of raising a kid

you think that suddenly shocks them

a kid is so expensive let me not have sex

thats not whats occuring here

Social sciences like economy can't ever produce exact answers, they get 90% of predictions wrong because humans are not rational and they cant predict unexpected changes, so the books can only offer some perspective never a definitive answer

Well that's what I mean, the homo economicus explanation is just completely ignorant of actual human motivation - perhaps on purpose. The point of the explanations is really to explain why status quo is both good and reasonable in a way that makes you not want to panic about it. It's more of a rationalization than a real explanation for why birth rates are down. People aren't having kids, really, because they're being actively prevented.

We do not live in over populated zones dumb fuck

only $14,000 to deal with a woman's bullshit

lmao, no thanks.

women are dumb but they have to be smart enough to realize there are not enough Chads for all of them right?

South Korean society is literal hell, I don't blame them for not wanting to settle down/have kids.

SK has a women problem, based on the usual hypergamy, over education, feminism, unrealistic expectations and a complete lack of shame.

14K isn't going to touch any of above.

1. Bring back shame, especially for sluts and unmarried women over 25. That means public people should be calling them out for being losers.

2. Cut women off from higher education unless they have a child (this is the best policy but the cucks in charge would never do it)

3. Outlaw feminism. It's societal destruction, anti-capitalist and anti-civilization. Any type of sexist based ideology needs to be treated like an openly racist ideology or terrorism.

4. Unrealistic expectations, this would require cutting women off from social media. Probably the hardest one to do. Reducing celebrity culture would help, they won't do that. You would have to ban the most toxic social media sites, it wouldn't have much effect though. Cats out of the bag with this one and it self-perpetuates way to easily to easily crack down on it. Likely the best policy here would be to outlaw social media for women until they have children.

Nobody gets married just for 14,000 dollars unless they are poor third worlders.

People get have sex/get in relationships/get married/have babies because they catch feelings for each other. Fall in love.

All these strategies labour under the illusion that humans are just like robots making rational financial decisions in their self interest. Bitch, nobody has kids for financial incentive. People have kids because they love their partner and wanna be a dad/mum.

North East Asians are workaholic nerds obsessed with studying and then a career and ultimately obsessed with what others think of them. There is no joy. Nobody will get laid and have kids in that culture.

everything comes to an end, including cultures
and they have two options

a) some of their culture will survive through their half-hindu/pinoy grandsons
b) their entire culture disappears and only lives on through music, film and books sold by people that have nothing to with them

well maybe it wouldnt be hell if they had kids

so i do blame them

women theyre the problem

women's rights

Women were working in factories as the UK industrialized, the difference is that it wasn't some aspirational thing it was a necessity to get by. The current culture that praises a woman's career is what's truly cancerous.

This

they were cynically thinking

Yes.
The morals were always a psyop to not destroy candidates for war (in case there's war) or feudal slavery.

Moreover, and I can't stress this enough without the bullshit, people were dying much, much faster and very young.

People living into their late 20s, early 30s was a positive anomaly, nevermind further than that.

The human specie isn't “hard coded” to live the averages, or beyond.
With 8 billion going, and very much expecting to reach 10 billion by 2040s, there's an understanding that something will have to happen.

Stress, underpayment, unaffordable prices, constantly burnout nerves, free market healthcare etc. isn't hastening the great death wave as fast as it should.

8 billion, Anon... soon to be 10 by 2040s.
Think about that.

“What to do with the dumb slaves” is a constant reminder on everyone, geopolitically.

$16,000 a year isn't that much for a white family, and that's ignoring the fact that the number is grossly exaggerated to begin with, especially with subsequent children and a healthy, supportive family structure (grandparents, etc). Not that liberals would know, given they all come from broken, dysfunctional families and have an average of 0.5 children.

People living into their late 20s, early 30s was a positive anomaly

you are a legit brainwashed retard.

C)They figure it out sometime within the next several decades as things start looking increasingly dire.

having sex and having babies is free

women choose not to because they want money for it

if the government pays for them more than they earn while being a single only fans whore or traditional prostitute which is hard to do

then they will take the money and divorce the guy immediately and not have any kids

or it will be the men subsidizing the women more than they already are and inflation will go way up to pay for 14,000 to every women essentially

if its 7000 for man and 7000 for women then single incels pay for the married people

not really helping

Women are already married to the Government. Why do their care if the Cuck known as the Government gives them $14,000 when it already gives them a free job, preferential court treatment, social supports, etc. The same Government husband also crushes men, preventing them from becoming attractive enough to meet the requirement of its wives. In the west this is made worse by taking the resources from men and also given it to foreigners. All these factors compound.

we keep giving women money for nothing and they keep doing nothing!

have we tried giving them more money again? what about punishing the men?

well we punish the men!

try doing that harder! and the money thing!

Kinda, I'm sure you will remember that we indeed had a period of encouragment for populational control with malthusian thought spearheading it, but that didn't last much and ultimately urbanization and the lack of living space, expenditures and time commitment of having kids in a city play more of a part nowadays than it did in the past, access to comforts and social media luxury is cut by it and those took central stage in a way more hedonistic society

work till you die standing work culture

Men especially don't have time to date

hellish education culture for kids

education is expensive

Leaves students suicidal and families in debt

Rent is too expensive

Good luck affording anything

None of these are women's fault in South Korea, you retarded nigger

Moreover, and I can't stress this enough without the bullshit, people were dying much, much faster and very young.

People living into their late 20s, early 30s was a positive anomaly, nevermind further than that.

You absolute retard. You have no idea how "average life expectancy" works.
Then again you're a meme flag so I'm not surprised you're retarded. Go watch apehoop or niggerball or something.

based girl bosses

says the spainard larping as an aztec

rent in korea and japan is dirt cheap theres a guy who got his house for 6000$ in japan

it doesnt even exist in the united states

its essentially the cheapest places to live where the birthrate is the lowest

cost of living has nothing to do with it

its purely cultural the women are brainwashed to hate kids and dont want any if you interview them straight up

Women don't want “Chads” — they want single free life, without kids, and a lot of money.

Only men want “Stacies”, women don't want “Chads” nor “Chuds”

I'm (You)ing you because I've reached the same argument into a bigger conclusion.
Asian women are far more cognizant of the rat race their parents, grandparents, great grandparents were made or forced to acquiesce.

There are far more people that, had we lived in feudal times, would've wanted to die before their 20s, 30s.
With populations forced to live more than it is into our DNA to survive, you inevitably bring along desperation under the radar.

Human cities are literally mouse utopias. Where do most South Koreans live? Where do most Japanese live? Where do most people live?

Stupid motherfucking faggots, you need to huff gas and kill yourselves.

Having babies is not free, elon is filthy rich and has no consideration that normal people cant just do the deed and later give a blank cheque for the mother to raise the kid on opulence without ever seeing it again untill it troons out

theres a guy who got his house for 6000$ in japan

That's outside the city retard, where nothing happens. Don't get me wrong I despise cities too, but there's a reason those houses are dirt cheap.

how do you buy a 7$ starbucks drink when you have 20$ in the bank then suddenly youre an expert on the 18 years of paying for a kid

youre so responsible that you considered the cost of having children

having children is free dude

if you literally cant feed them the government helps you

Imagine giving women rights, and then thinking that they'll keep producing citizens.

Good one anon, its insane how many fail to grasp the urbanization and literacy effect is the strongest on the birth rates, and megacities are just inevitable with everyone migrating there for jobs, urbanization is more related to lower birth rates than feminism itself

Ive seen SK chicks on kpop band

I never got the appeal. Its just plastic surgery bugs with no hips doing the most basic and boring movements

You know what actually works?

If you give men money.
These were the results of the swedish lottery winner study:

women: divorce their husbands, do not marry or remarry

men: get married and have children

You cannot fix society by giving things to women. Women when they get everything they want, will refuse to breed. Men, when they get everything they want, have children. Women always go after men who have more than they do, women refuse to go after men who have less, so the more stuff women have, the less breeding happens in your society.

We should be taking everything away from women and giving it to men, and the men can give it back to the women in exchange for a family. This is the reality that women don't want to accept, but we will have to force them to accept at gunpoint, because if we don't our society, people, and civilization will die.

Women cannot make decisions that will net benefit society. Frankly they can't even make decisions that will net benefit themselves.

Replacement level is 3 per woman.

Every population that does not reach this and maintain this number will be destroyed and, if there are enough brownoids present, eaten literally, while their way of life and everything they deem significant is scoured from the earth.

Kid costs like $300,000. Here's $14,000.

Yeah bro, just poop babies and raise them in squalid conditions with govt pittance, such a great plan to save humanity, increase the misery

It takes more than that. Maybe a $140,000 payment... AFTER TAXES.

no even in tokyo the housing price is like less than a flyover state

its like 50% of what mississippi costs

japan is one of the most affordable places amongst the first world i just left there

jews want to import indians and brainwash the girls to not have kids and not go to church thats what happened

Anons, like inflation, there isn't a core difference in humans that died in the 16-17-18-19 centuries, and today forced to outlive those core silver linings.

Even by speculative numbers, check the averages during feudalism. Those we're the positive anomalies, not the norm; therefore, humans aren't meant to reach late double digits, or early triple digits.

It just isn't, ok? Check the numbers then. You'll see the ergonomic/demographic inflation.

It doesn't matter if it's $14k, $300k, or $3 million

Women do not have children when they get money. Only men do.

Modern women have jobs now and thus want to maximize their hypergamy, by the time they want to settle they are mid to late 30s. Nobody in his right mind will settle for them, so no children are being born. It is quite simple.

I don't want any either, imagine marrying a woman who is over. Yikes. They could pay me 10 million and I wouldn't do it.

Look at map, not even the boogeyman brown people who will eat you have the 3 you speak of, again ignore SSA those are not reliable or serious data

meant to say a woman over 30

Does he know?

it would literally be as simple as

the father of the children desides if you get benefits (female privilege payments) what ever those are were you live and they do exist

he doesn doesn't get them at all (probably already the case)
so his only reason to not give them is your a utterly irredeemable useless piece of shit. this create pressure to not be that way.

you could even make it sex neutral as a "compromise" when they start ragging about it.

the other parent can fuck you if your a piece of shit. so don't do that.

Megacities are inevitable

Cities being burned to the ground and forgotten is inevitable.

These modern cities create the conditions that destroy them so fast they probably won't even last a single century. Cities no longer produce, they're cancer.

They won't refute you. You're the correct one. If anything, I'm just a samefag for washing thru the shit to +1 this. Mouse utopia is a shit "experiment".

Nork means North Korean nor k
South Korean would be
Sok
...
Sock.

Human cities are literally mouse utopias.

There's nothing wrong with that.

Instead of wars & sanitary problems, you have spatial designs meant intentionally to cull demographics.

There's nothing wrong with that, Anon.

Also you responded to a bait post, so any responses are also bait.

how to solve the fertility crisis

atavisionary.com/how-to-solve-the-fertility-crisis/

UBI would solve this unironically

inb4 visceral spazzing from Burgers

Afghanistan

Even higher In 2025

Taliban rule le death

It's so stupidly obvious that living in urban environments destroys people.
Light pollution
Sound pollution
Crime
Vice and sin
Overstimulation from being around so many people
Dirty water
Chemical contamination
Actual pollution
Garbage food choices
Traffic
Heavy metals and other particles in the air from all the grinding and friction of machinery in the area
Radio signals everywhere

It's like, how more obvious can you get for how absolutely disgusting living in urban areas is? You're surrounded by everything that destroys life. The only animals that can survive these places are animals with a high r-selection coefficient. Roaches, rats, pigeons, and strays. Ain't no fucking nature in those places, they try to construct zoos and parks to make people not feel as disconnected from nature, but even those places are shit and ass.
Cities are RAT utopias. There is no city on earth not full of fucking rats, take a hint.

Fuck these people and their buildings and streets.

I earn substantially more than the average Canadian. Have investments, my own place (though not a full house). I look at the average woman on a dating app and I have no idea how they pay for all of their vacations, dinners and other activities.

Besides for them having bullshit jobs, their parents spoil them and they likely hop man to man - having them pay the expenses. This is made even worse by the fact that we are globalized. Meaning any Saudi guy can just pay for multiple women - women who are not even from his original sphere of influence.

Dude if you openly admit you are giving someone 14k for marriage? Rest assure that girl will start to demand a 40k+ marriage at least anyway.

AND YOU BETTER BE THANKFUL, CHUD!

Might be easier and more effective to offer monthly prostitute visits for workers, and be supportive of whores with work accidents at that point

wtf are you spending your money on? Also, lmao a child at 18. By age 16, you're grown up and should get a job

Cities don't need to produce anything, just concentrate the production of other areas to meet the buyers, industrial farming is so insanely productive we throw away the majority of what's produced every year

You're full of fucking shit and I just proved it, you blatant moron. Stupid bitch. Die in a fire- Sodom and Gomorrah

No – women don't have children because they don't want them.

There's a critical mass of women realizing that, in essence, their kids whom only they'd cherish would either become bugpeople into the machine's cogs, illegals (crime), or similarly worse.

Why would they want that?
Perhaps, for the first time ever, more women are conscious of the futility of it.
Their particular weaknesses only depended upon them to be with men.
Why don't women want children?
Maybe there's something else, not Chads, not Chuds, no nothing.

The government can't convince people to have sex, or assign you a girlfriend.

You are dumb

I would refuse, I hate women far too much to sleep with one.

they will anything and everything to avoid the obvious: make women dependent on men again. No more women in college. No more women in the workplace. Make men so superior to them in every way that even the lowliest of men is revered and looked up to. This is the only fix and ironically the only one completely off the table everywhere. It's like that with almost every "taboo" issue. The only solutions are "unthinkable" as everyone operates from false premises.

It's OK if your business will go bankrupt.
If it relies on demographics to exist, you don't really matter either, despite your CV, awards, social status.

As someone else said, people are DONE.

just poop babies and raise them in squalid conditions with govt pittance,

Yes?

ya whites should

they let the niggers and spics take advantage of the welfare money so only they are paid to have kids

but white women are interested in money too so they divorce immediately and are rich for existing already

Womens rights are to blame you can see it all over literally every country going through a child producing crisis is because women have rights. Just remove their rights lol. Nothing will change because women don't have to they aren't suffering.

This would also unironically cut down on the phenomenon of single moms. Women are able to get away with having poor partner choice. (That really dangerous guy, or non-commital chad) - because they may be able to extract resources later through alimony, child support (even from a different man) or from the Government. This insulates them from shitty decisions. If they had to face the consequence of their decisions, then you would see this reduced.

Humanity reached its peak in 1962, Anon. You're not in a show, nor a first-person protagonist.

while i would agree that would be a temporary fix to impoverish women so they will get married again and be dependent

it would be better than the current structure

it still means that women will only date you for your money even if its less than it was before the requirement they looking up to money still
not people

it eventually does come down to kill most roasties theres only some who overlap and do things for the good of it

cool it varg, you may get another racemixing daughter that way
nobody with a brain wants to be poor or have their kids be poor, its a world of diseases, shit labour, violence all around and tendency of drug abuse and being pressed into criminality, just look at post soviet eastern europe for what poor whites look like

Nigga heil hitler

I looked it up and it has never been reproduced by anyone other than the guy who did the experiment. He did many versions of it though, but who knows if those were flawed somehow?

This will inevitably happen everywhere until shtf

removing the original problem.

What's the original problem?

most humans who have ever lived were poor

in all of history we didnt even have fans or air conditioning 100 years ago

and they still had 10 kids

you are the problem

making excuses because brainwashed

You can't run a society where everyone is a HIV riddled nigger.

Why don't women want children?

Hormonal birth control is the primary culprit. It literally changes the way women think and behave. Also, in the past, children were primarily just a consequence of sex. Couples didn't really "plan" on having children. They would just have sex and sometimes a kid would grow and pop out. Women are still having lots of sex, but no children, all thanks to birth control.

So your solution to the whole problem is for us to get rid of every advance and technology and go back to being pure animals just fucking and hunting? yeah, nobody will be on board with this, those things were invented for a reason

great comment and underrated image.

It's OK if your business will go bankrupt.

You just don't understand. Money will not make you a better humans being. Nobody who ever got rich became a better human being by getting rich. Nobody who ever got rich ever game the world and the universe boons. Money is not a sign of improved consciousness or life. Jay-Z, Taylor Swift, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, whoever runs whatever stupid mid-tier company you're referring to, none of them became better people through the accumulation of money. It is impossible to improve your actual life through wealth beyond a certain point. The billionaire who will be forgotten in 100 years is not actually living better than some nigger hunting on the African plains. That's not how this works. It has never worked that way and that's why it absolutely corrupts anyone that tries it. Without fail.

Tesla died broke. Edison did not. Guess who more people admire and respect.

Fuck a business. Fuck a corporation. Fuck stupid RAT race faggot bullshit. Live in filth surrounded by gold.

Feminism.

how much does it cost to give birth in hospital? make giving births free, provide 14k per year until baby is 18

I... agree.

The government doesn't need to DO anything to fix the problem it's enforcing besides stop enforcing the problem.
Women's rights isnt some natural thing that will keep existing when you stop forcing it into existence.

why you lying, jew?

utopia

WTF are you talking nigger? overcrowding is not an utopia

help, help I'm being oppressed

Fucking fag.
That said, you're right that the world doesn't need more browns.
Y'all should just ack yourselves.

Upfront payments really aren't a security for having families. People want to have stable lives before having kids.

Cities today are prisons.

no jobs in the countryside where house rents are low

all jobs in the cities but house rents are ridiculously high

homes are smaller and more crowded than ever

cities are getting more crowded as every turd whirlder arrives in

ever increasing numbers of people are losing their mind

pedophilia means being attracted to women between the ages of 16 - 26

welp, I guess the vile kike feminists have made themselves correct: all men are now pedophiles

Children cost 300,000+

wild bullshit number: they share a room, get mostly second-hand clothes, and eat a tiny portion of what I'm eating
the youngest is probably going to need braces once his second set of teeth come in, but that's something like $1k at worst with this gay insurance I'm forced to pay into

But girls don't know how to signal, and boys couldn't perceive the signals anyway

brutal and true

There's people in the Amazon that just 3 fuck and hunt or whatever but they're still small in numbers and probably die all the time of preventable causes and have high infant mortality rates.

ya for instance in thailand they have cheap apartments which women live in 5 star luxury resorts but they are too good to have children because they dont want to sacrifice

women would prefer being greedy living in a 5 star resort herself then leave nothing for her babies

males are valuing the baby itself

if all humans were greedy like women nobody would ever have a kid why would i spend 2$ to feed another "thing" in the womb

you wouldnt do it even if you were rich with their mindset

so ya poverty doesnt matter americans in poverty spics have the most kids and niggers in poverty

meanwhile whites dont because they have to pay for that

it has never been reproduced by anyone other than the guy who did the experiment.

reproduced by anyone other than the guy who did the experiment.

so it was reproduced, kike

Better to have a larger payment but as a tax credit. Unless the goal is a flat increase in children, we want to go with a tax credit structure so people with more wealth / stability are encouraged to have them. It gives them extra incentive and helps to reduce welfare leeches.

people in the past had lots of children because they had no condoms. Forget farmers, even townies and landlords had lots of children, not that they needed them.

Free? So they pay housing, food, health care, education including whatever needed to give kids a second and third chance at actually succeeding?

How do you make that happen? The only way is remove their rights and jews would never allow it

>Locked in a prison with no nature or possibility of natural behavior

essentially a city and guess what, cities were always population sinks

More than half of your country is brown, the part who looks white managed to be so niggerish that every other white hates it and yet you have a miniscule birth rate anyway and keep acking itself in hoholstan

by anyone other than the guy who did the experiment

WHO ELSE WOULD REPLICATE IT? This is one thing I have a gripe with, but literally why do you think it would be normal for other scientists, unless they are being so specifically paid, to try and recreate these hyper-specific things? I understand how political science is, but the reality of it all is scientists who do any experimentation at all are an extreme minority of eccentrics. Science is continuously more complicated, and thus the effort, time, and money investment will only go up.

no the government pays for the baby food

and then the diapers are like 30 cents

u can a afford a baby working at mcdonalds

problem is women wont date you if ur a burger flipper at mcdonalds ur wife is gonna be a black plapjack

it has never been reproduced by anyone other than the guy

Wrong, the rat version was done by his asian apprentice

Women don't need no man in a city. There's government there to help them at the expense of men. It's destructive by design.

I think countries need to start taxing women who don't have children.

Yeah, related to this, same reason why no white wants to go back to poverty and live in squalid conditions just so bilionaires have more cheap workforce squashed in a tiny apt eating ever smaller meals unlike this good goy wants them to

Brainless unregulated state capitalism

welfare "leeches" isn't a problem. we better start getting used to them and start implementing UBI asap. 20% of working class that actually want to work produce enough for everyone. within next 10 years 80% will be unemployable and longer we wait for UBI implementation the worse it'll be when shit will hit the fan. you think crime rate is bad now, it'll be much worse when there are no jobs for most

Because we refuse to continue to work as cogs in the machine. Humanity currently serves civilization when it should be the other way around. We demand what's ours or there will be no civilization for anyone. We will simply do what we are doing: nothing. When you kill your enemy they win.

some things are just not possible on earth if you place yourself in a home that is 500k in your mind you might not ever make that much in your lifetime

before you are able to have kids

women have too much standards for themselves that it blocks them from being human

u should be able to have 3 kids working at mcdonalds in a cheap apartment with a white girl

something that almost doesnt exist in this age

poverty is irrelevant to this equation

women will just keep raising the bar each time WHAT ABOUT PAYING FOR THIS THING THAT COSTS 3 MILLION DOLLARS FIRST

seniors who deserve...

According to who?

Probably because you can't even buy a fucking KIA with $14000.

This just proves how out of touch the ruling class is. Its just like all those rich faggots were blaming $1200 covid checks as the reason people weren't going back to work a year later. They actually think poor people can live off of $1200 a year. They actually think that. Its fucking crazy.

Honestly Im just glad its not only American elites that are like this. These faggots have absolutely no idea how much shit costs. Zero clue.

This was never possible, a very tiny slice of time in post-war america which every competitor was bombed to oblivion allowed some semblance of that at the cost of 99% of the rest of the world living like shit, there's no advantage to anyone getting into poverty for kids, that simple

Feminism, it's that simple.
They have been told to be career women, compete directly with men, but their female brain still requires a man to be the one supporting her.
So what does this mean? A minuscule pool of men actually meet the standards of even the average woman.

Economics is kinda retarded. It has this naive assumption that humans are rational beings as opposed to emotional beings, as if you could just throw x amount of money in y place to fix all the world's problems

women have it better than any time in history and its too expensive still for them to have kids

despite making 1m on only fans

its still too expensive to ever have kids i cant have kids! im a moron!

its free to have kids

you dont lose anything in fact you gain money people want to help your baby

theres a trick in these 3rd world the women flashes off her baby around to make people pay them more money to take care of the baby

South korean women are not feminist they are radical materialistic nut jobs every thing they do is based on how they think a girl friend from high school whom they will never see again will perceive their success in life.

There is no way to satisfy these women, all of their desires are based on an illusion of reality that is not obtainable in the real world..

u should be able to have 3 kids working at mcdonalds in a cheap apartment with a white girl

You can. Make her work too and when she breaks up with you don't pay child support. You've made kids. Done deal.

but my kids will be shit!

Like 95% of kids? Boo hoo, most people never amount to anything. Stop worrying about it. At least your genes are carried on, and the more of the little fucks you make the more likely you are to make one that actually does something decent. Fuck a slut. Make her make your kids, then tell her to fuck off. IF you're in a city.

That's just the classic theories, modern economics from cold war forwards have accepted the consumer is not a rational being and have tried multiple methods overlapping with psychology to try to understand it, which is why so many psyops have appeared during this time as it was heavely borrowed from the new field of targeted behavioural market, still impossible to predict people to this day though

its not up to you though its up to women they have to agree to have kids which they dont in the modern age due to feminist propaganda

having kids is the first step i will die alone without ever even meeting a women

The real mouse utopia is the internet. You spend all day in a hypercrowded space getting bombarded by the opinions and thoughts of millions of people. I'm of the mind that the information overload from this is more damaging than even living in a mega city.

Planet population affects overall supply-side economics.

You know this.
Pro-life ergonomics end up as pro-death economics.

i would agree with that but i wouldnt agree with they arent feminist

they are radically feminist too and materialistic

feminist = women in power they have a shit ton of that in korea

It is being reproduced in worldwide scale right in a front of you
womp womp

Give women cocaine and they'll fuck you all the time. If she aborts your kid, beat the fuck out of her. It's less than a year in jail, no issue. Stop trying to live moral in immoral places like cities. It's a rat race, remember?

there was a homeless meth lady i could have dated in america maybe but then shes obviously not going to be very good looking and addicted to meth so around dangerous people all the time

not the lifestyle for everybody

honestly I am grateful the level of mind virus in South Korea

Any examples of how bad it is over there? Legit curious.

I can't stop thinking that the woman who would have fallen in love with me was aborted in this timeline, and that's why I'm alone. In another alternate timeline, her mother didn't abort her, and she grew up to fall in love with me. I must be very happy there, but here l'm a failure. Without a doubt, my aborted girlfriend would have loved me, and I wouldn't be sad.

They just need to fire women from government jobs and that would basically fix the issue overnight with increased wages and lower prices and more realistic women

a) cost benefit of having children is abysmal. it easily drops a middle class couple standard of living

b) women education and hypergamy make they gatekeep a sizable amount of men

c) amout you earn vs value of assets. salaries were never so worthless so the costs of children are a hard sell

the only demographics having a decent amount of children are those with nothing to lose or those with so much the costs are irrelevant

rich western countries will kick the can with immigration. what korea will do, now that s what i m curious about

Women are to blame EVERY TIME the marriage and reproduction rates drop.

i would agree that would help a lot

white women are instantly subsidized by private dollars too

a women is paid to be a wife and paid to have sex with prostitution

women can live like kings without any government funding

do you legalize prostitution or import 3rd world women to lower the private market price of a women

i think so

You just don't understand.

I do but let's see your canned argumentations.

Money will not make you a better humans being. Nobody who ever got rich became a better human being by getting rich. Nobody who ever got rich ever game the world and the universe boons. Money is not a sign of improved consciousness or life.

Money is the reason people worry themselves to the grave.

If misery is your jazz, hoping to die randomly because of a vein burst or traffic accident, that's you.

Jay-Z, Taylor Swift, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, whoever runs whatever stupid mid-tier company you're referring to, none of them became better people through the accumulation of money.

Yes they did. Not to you or me personally, but to their families, their neighbours, their divorce lawyers, their friends that are paid their existence just so they'll stick around with them some more.

You think this way because you're not rich and that you haven't found a rich person to take care of you.

It is impossible to improve your actual life through wealth beyond a certain point. The billionaire who will be forgotten in 100 years is not actually living better than some nigger hunting on the African plains. That's not how this works. It has never worked that way and that's why it absolutely corrupts anyone that tries it. Without fail.

It doesn't matter.
If you were rich, you wouldn't be miserymaxxing.

Tesla died broke. Edison did not. Guess who more people admire and respect.

Too bad they couldn't give Tesla the proper respect inasmuch as not letting him die like a dog, eh?
Now? It doesn't matter, your respect doesn't matter (it never did, lo n' behold).

in the year 3025 Amish will be the only white poeple on the earth.
Another fun fact, they would be probably the most technologically advanced

Someone post the clip of that Japanese roastie from the show "Tokyo Girl".

They will open the gates in just a few years, in less than a decade most companies will be nearing collapse and they are basicaly and oligarchy, no way they don't open the gates, however I'm not so sure anymore that there will still be that many workers interested in going there with their abysmal work laws and brown countries also experiencing dropping fertility

Kuffar eternally btfo

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Tying to live a big-family tight-knit existence in a city is impossible. It's never worked, simply because of the sheer amount of people around at all times.
There's this idealized idea of family that people think they can have in a city, and it just isn't possible. Ancient Rome and Athens were both rife with dysfunction and decay of human spirit and family. When you live in a city, the entire city is your family. Thousand/millions of people. This is why mafias have to use violence to force loyalty to their own families, because they don't come naturally. Too many people, too much excitement and pollution and disease and crime.
A natural disaster hits any city and you'll get looters and crime and devastation. Rural tiny communities help each other, even families that don't like each other will come together as a unit, because there's only hundreds of them at most. They grow up together and know each other. A city cannot be a community.

We are apes, like it or not, and apes like to form groups, not too big and not too small. Monkey in Japan do this, monkeys in South America do this, and monkeys across Asia and Africa do this. It is observable and proven. Our souls don't like to have interference and overindulgence. It ruins us.

I can safely say as an American living in Korea, not interested in dating here either

imho, women are the problem

No. You're wrong. You're a creature of mammon, not of spirit and humanity. A biological machine.

Korean women are literal witches.

No, it wasn't. fucktard
Another retard doesn't understand the scientific method

i wonder how much attraction power SK has, as far as immigration go. with how xenophobe they are + how hard is to learn the language shit ll be even more dystopic than it is now with a slave caste of foreigners. i m also pretty sure immigration will reduce native birthright even more

that said, what about the countries that have low immigrant attraction power? SK is only in the future, what they ll do about it?

$14k is nothing

i m curious about your perspective, please do tell more

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Can't really do anything about it without introducing patriarchy. The moment feminism rolls out it's over.
Then again, I tried searching and reading dozens of articles on why exactly population decline is a bad thing. Frankly, it all sounds like fearmongering bullshit pushed by geriatric boomers and filthy rich business owners, the first group is terrified of having no one to look after them - the second group wants cheap immigration labour and infinite profits from future buyers (children)

this is actually a pretty good idea. Europe used to do this with dowries, but I guess it became unfashionable? Fathers would pay the groom to get the woman of their hands.

like us and the rest of latan? we won't do anything but collapse in a cycle of very small areas being functional and the govts taxing those to hell to be able to work therefore feeding more cascading effects

“Everything I don't like is mammon”.

give nothing of actual value to the people who decide to perpetuate society

$14k isn't enough to make me talk to a woman, give me a free house instead

Another dipshit that doesn't understand that function don't care about facts. Fuck you, and fuck the scientific method. The scientific method doesn't survive, like most things, practical reality. This is why the Right only ever fails, and why the Left, only concerned with winning, always gains ground. Dumb fucking people, I swear.

Force your kids to study for 20 hours a day from ages 5 to 25

Force them to work for one of the country's five megacorporations for 25 hours a day

Create physical complexes for them through the media, K-pop, social media, etc., to encourage them to pay for surgery/clothes/makeup

No one has the time or money to have children anymore

Oh jeez, who would have guessed?

population collapse is bad because it drives up the price of young women

all old boomer men want a young girl but no old women want young men

so women are treated like kings unfairly like we have today

we need a tax on young women not getting married and having kids

But this is not what media is reporting. The problem lies on men not taking responsibilities.

$14,000

That's not even enough to buy a burger these days

retard doubles down by confusing scientific method with political propagandizing

You know, carry on retard. I've nothing to say to you that you'd understand

I have no idea what this guy is even trying to say. People are sad?

They have too much government and corporate backing, ensuring they always have the upper hand in negotiations against the average man.

This. This is the reason I will never marry. Would rather fuck prostitutes.

so we can have local third places to bump into people we recognize and build social networks.

and destroy smartphones, social networks and dating apps
30 years ago you were in competition with guys from your neighborhood, at most some came from elsewhere in the city/neighboring city that you met in bars, friends of a friend, etc., but that was okay. Now women have men from all over the country + those nearby enought (simps will always be ok to come from 800km over just cause a girl said ok for a date) ready to pay for a restaurant + those from all over the world to flatter them and boost their egos on Instagram.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammon

commonly thought to mean money, material wealth, or any entity that promises wealth, and is associated with the greedy pursuit of gain.

People don't live in cities looking to be poor, they look to be wealthy, consistently and without exception. And people from cities always, ALWAYS, question why anyone living in rural poverty would choose to live that way. Your brain is fucked by vice and decay. You are a slave on a giant plantation full of toxins and unnatural contrivances used to feed machines called banks and stock markets. You are the negro slave, just not picking cotton or other delectables. Chasing pennies like a kike without any of the kike's power.

Turning people into animals isn't the answer.

inb4 throwing money at the problem

Everybody goes to work to afford rent, mortgages, utility bills, maintenance (car...) and so on.
Maybe, just maybe, the reason things are the way they are is because people are burning through these monthly worries.

Whoever says money isn't the problem, we wouldn't be having wealthy people, small or big.
The gaslighting that “it's not that” betrays all of your sociopathic tendencies.

I would stick you on a fucking spike. Militant, pre-programmed retard. Go on, tell me how equality is good, or how meritocracy is the best way to run a society. I'd use your skull for a cum pot.

what he saying that most people not even sure how they gonna pay bills at the end of the month and having children is completely out of the question. only niggers and retards have children when broke as fuck and jobless because they have no ability to conceptualize future events. But I did have breakfast this morning. In order for me to have children I must have income guarantee for at least 16 years because last thing I want to put my children though is constant moving, living in the car, squatting with family members and friends that want us out after a week. give me a job that pays enough to survive and guaranteed for life as long as I don't do something extreme like it has been up to 90s where you would get golden watch at the end of your 30 year working then I'll happily start a family.

if money was enough for women to choose someone below 20% top men, I would not be a khhv at 36 despite earning $300k+

14k to make half as much money for the rest of my life?
Sounds like a bargain!

No, it has never been successfully reproduced by an independent group of scientists, it's a bullshit study, a fake.

so fucking reproduce it and see for yourself, faggot

and then expect the younger people to do more work than they ever did, while getting paid less in comparison to the cost of living.

Totally, at the time, for the contract you had to send a letter, or at most a fax, but you weren't expected to respond to your emails sent at 8 p.m. before arriving at work the next day at 8 a.m. You weren't constantly monitored, you didn't have algorithms and AI analyzing your every move, movement, break time, etc. to calculate whether you were profitable or not. You weren't tracked like Amazon pickers, for example, or you were imposed a quota of increasingly large quantities to the point of becoming impossible. We are infinitely more productive and yet we work more for less. What young man without a diploma can buy a house in 5 years in the city now? None, a few decades ago it was largely possible.

Not sure what caused this level of self-racial hatred. But my dude, you may not be white, but you are infinitely better than a nigger. Don't get so hard on your race.

For millennials, the problem is definitely money, and housing (i.e. mass immigration)
For zoomers is different, most men below 30 being single is a stark statistic. Something very wrong with that gen. It just being men and not women maybe suggest women are hooking up with older men more than before

holy shit americans cant afford a mushed up apple

thats what babies cost

the food is so cheap i can drink more milk and food than a baby in weeks in one sitting

Oh well if the Jews don’t want us to do it then I guess we need a new plan.

What if we give them MORE rights? Maybe we can overload their power?

Like I said, if miserymaxxing is your jazz, then you are complaining others don't want to join you.

Maybe, y'know, you're suffering your own pathologies that you're not aware of, to then forcing yourself against all instincts that your life is the way to be.

Well as long as they're dating someone and having kids that's fine by me. I'm not gonna go down the incel hole, nothing good comes out of it. The problem is that they're not dating. I've seen so many above average women who are staying single for years. Men's confidence and feeling of self-worth is at all time low. The young guys live with parents or share a tiny studio with roommates. They feel like they have nothing to offer because of high expectations created by social media and so they opt out of society.
The older guys who might own a place or have a good career don't want to date single mothers their age, because raising someone's kid is a humiliation ritual. At the same time dating someone younger than you is now met with contempt from society and rarely leads to births, as it's a transactional relationship where the older guy gets to fuck some hot young woman by showering her with gifts.

zoomer and gena grew up with constant bombardment of WORLD IS ENDING IN 10 YEARS, so they don't give a shit about long term prospect since most of them deeply believe they won't see 40s, 50s. they also grew up with their millenial brothers, sisters who told them about what boomers did to them and how there is no future which solidified FUCK IT attitude for them, don't forget the YOU"LL OWN NOTHING AND BE HAPPY ABOUT IT too that they were exposed to in their formative years

No, if this crap isn't being reproduced, then it doesn't make sense. Any successful research that can be reproduced is always reproduced because it can be used to write a paper and get a grant. They don't reproduce crap like mouse heaven or the Stanford experiment with prisoners.

theyre not dating and having kids thats the point

you might as well be a cia agent with your schizo babble start off the conversation saying incels are bad and women are having kids

then saying some normal shit

This
the funny thing is, that study came out in the 1960s when (((academia))) was trying its hardest to curb White birth rates (muh limits to growth, paul ehrlich, population bomb and so on) so in a sense, that very study was originally part of the problems we have now

yea, i agree. and eventually even the SK like enclaves will get sucked dry by the richer countries, so we ll bethe boonies even more than now i suppose

by the time conditions to reverse the trend are in play we ll probably be way too weak against external threats

what a miserable end

For millennials, the problem is definitely money, and housing (i.e. mass immigration)

My point exactly.

For zoomers is different, most men below 30 being single is a stark statistic. Something very wrong with that gen. It just being men and not women maybe suggest women are hooking up with older men more than before

Remember though: nobody sold themselves as quasi-slaves (ex. prostitution...) willingly either.
There's plenty of wrong with them too, if they're hooking up with old men.
Either they regret living or want to bail out early.

Yeah, stuff like climate propaganda could definitely be a factor in fertility rates but it only explains the lack of family formation, not the massive decline in relationships for people below 30

Underrated. It is this simple, but no one is going to act. Making life more affordable would erode the value for shareholders and we can't have that

lol! you sound like those globe faggots. HUR DUR SOME DUDE DID EXPERIMENTS WITH STICKS AND SHADOWS BACK IN 1500S TO PROVE GLOBE SO SCIENCE IS SETTLED!
it shouldn't be hard experiment for faggot like you to reproduce, the amount of time you spend pretending to be a woman can be put into something useful.

There's plenty of wrong with them too, if they're hooking up with old men.

Sure, but it also could be a ripple effect from millennial women riding the cock carrousel all the way up to 40, leaving the men to seek greener pastures

in the 1960s when (((academia)))

Yeah, plus LSD megadosing, funny breathing and dolphin fucking.

A C A D E M I A

ot the massive decline in relationships for people below 30

same thing, every genx, millenial couple that gave birth to these zoomers, genas are divorced, they all saw mothers be rabid about screwing dad from everything he has and daughters were bombarded with femenist shit that you don't need a husband that you will get bored of and you should just be a whore and a corporate boss babe and to wait until 30s to think about children. males are constantly presented with must be 6'4", must make million a year, have 12 inch dick. no one in their right mind wants to marry now, babies only happen purely by accident

Every country in East Asia has crashing birthrates and it's not a cost of living problem. Sure economists write about how expensive it is to buy a house or whatever, but if you actually talk to people, no one is really struggling. People have plenty of money to travel abroad multiple times per year, eat out for every meal of the day, enjoy expensive hobbies, etc. The number one problem is that East Asian women are greedy brats that want to remain children forever. Japanese girls are the absolute gutter sludge vilest creatures on this planet. Every single one of them expects to play the role of cutesy child in a relationship where you spoil her and treat here like a niece that you occasionally get to fuck, but mostly just buy her shit, take her on expensive trips, drive her everywhere in a Mercedes-or-better car etc. It's not that they don't want to work either. They want to "work" in woman-appropriate fakework jobs that give them the aura of sexy professional powerful girlboss. They essentially want to role play forever, and men are just they background accessory that makes this mirage possible. A baby would necessitate responsibility and maturation. It's no wonder that in Japan it's normal to pay a 20-year-old girl dressed as a maid to sit next to you while you get blackout drunk after work.

It's not misery. You are incapable of THINKING about how it's not misery. I can put my head into yours, I can fully understand your way of life and mindset as an urbanite. You are incapable of understanding or fathoming the simplicity of not living in a city. I got news for you. That's brain damage, Probably due to all the poison you constantly eat and drink and breathe.
Think for a second about all the iron and aluminum and other metals, ALONE, that are ground into nanometer size and floating in the air in a city, going right into your digestive and respiratory systems. RAW metal. Let me let you in on a little secret. There's a reason you rarely find metals in their pure elemental form in nature. They're extremely reactive with other chemistry. Those metals will react with and disrupt your biology. That's why you can't eat powdered iron as an iron supplement.

You're breathing and swallowing that shit constantly. All that friction going on and the grinding adds up. Massive amounts of metals and other freak shit put into the air in cities from simple mechanical forces. Not even normal pollution, just materials grinding away at one another, engines and axles and gears and trains and the rustling or metals all over the place. You think those nanometer particles aren't getting into your body? You guys are fucked.

gen z is a interesting generation, male earning potential has never been lower vs the price of assets, women expectation has never been higher thanks to living social media and both have never been more inept at irl socialization.

as such the ABSURD numbers of single men don t surprise me, it s basically those that are not at the top of beauty, status or both.

at the same time older gen men males value younger women like always

things are not only turboworse for gen z because society still shames age gap couples heavily

If 10% of men actually wanted to put women in chains, there isn't a fucking thing 100% of women could do to stop them, objectively.

they would sic the other 90% of men on them. Thats exactly how it works now. I was on twitter during the time Anon Babble was down. Its gotten a lot better about nigs and polical correctness, but normies are still VIOLENTLY against islam in america.

I saw a video on twitter of some sandnigger beating a woman who was chained to a tree with his belt. 40 other men stood around in a circle watching this. I couldnt find one single comment in hundreds of replies that was something to the extent of "maybe the woman had it coming." Every single one of these retards was simping hard for this cunt. Some of them even expressed their cringe white knight fantasy where they would rescue her. We have SO much farther to go before this gets fixed. At a bare minimum 15 more years, probably many decades.

You are incapable of THINKING about how it's not misery.

Yeah, thanks for confirming your “It's all in your mind”...

I'm not sure there will be a reversion at any point, I legit think either some authoritarian regime will go full on the synthetic human reproduction or humans may legit go exctinct

Naw, you're not talking about men -- you are talking about boys and Bra7i1ians.

You know what? I'm gonna do you a favor. I'm going to end my posting ITT by telling you the best advice you can ever hear as an urbanite. Leave.
Get out.
If you own a home in any non-West Baltimore type area, sell it and move to the country and start a small business to feed yourself with. Don't get greedy, just go. You WILL go through city withdrawals like any addict. This is normal. When your mind clears and you stand up out of bed after sleeping off the last of those withdrawals, surrounded by peace and fresh air and maybe some actual birds singing, you WILL understand.

Why do you think all the richfags own ranches in Wyoming? Think about it. They live in those places and only commute to the city to do business, otherwise they're on a ranch or out at sea on a yacht. Why? Ask Jeff Bezos why he has a yacht.

Divorce is just bonkers. Surest sign Americans will never revolt.

I mean, I would understand alimoney if the man initiated no-fault divorce (which should not exist anyways), but otherwise it’s crazy.

We need to remove all divorce and provide death penalty for infidelity. Having a child automatically makes you married.

There, I solved 80% of the worlds problems.

a child for one year cost more than I do for a year

Doubt. Sounds like people are buying a bunch of useless shit, designer clothes, and joining equestrian clubs to me.

There is no way simply raising a child costs more than 5k a year for the first 5 years, and that’s a pretty high estimate.

ban divorce, and 10 years prison for adultery would solve many issues. no one is forcing anyone to get married but if you do it should be for life.

If you want a younger woman and are able to be shamed out of it because some woman or incel wrote mean shit online you deserve it

What bothers me most is they don’t even want the children, they just want to spite the man.

that s beside the point. point being it does work with some men and some women

i m a 32 yo and my opinion of women my age vs women in their early 20's is one of the worst you ll ever seen

Yeah but you live in Brazil so you should be easily able to do that. Having a 10 years younger wife isn't that unusual.

Honestly, I’d just fucking hop the border at this point

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every time

Every dystopiafag just substitutes science fiction magic in whenever it's pointed out that his vision of the future makes no sense.

poverty porn

yeah I had money and now I dont give me updoots

Fake and gay

A schizo post, but a truthful one still