Why shouldn’t you be a citizen of the country you are born in?
Why is birthright citizenship bad?
a mouse born in a stable is not a horse.
did the mouse ever claim its a horse?
Refugees and illegals
Retarded analogy. Neither witty nor clever.
yes
Do niggers claim to be American?
because brown "people" ruin white civilizations
Just breaking everything, dividing the country with every single decision. Putting courts in overdrive with every decision. This cunt will ruin us.
niggers aren't immigrating to the US, retard, they're already there
You should be a citizen of the country where your parents legally belong.
right, but calling all maga supporters garbage humans wasn't diving the country in half. you lost tranny
Ok, let’s assume a mouse is born in House A and another mouse is born in House B. if these mice are related, why would this change the reltionship of mouse A with HouseA?
Obviously will be quickly struck down by a court but that's the intent so it can go to the Supreme Court.
You can be a citizen so long as your parents are here legally with some kind of permanent residence. You don't get the benefits of being an American just because your mother managed to shit you out on American territory. That's insane.
Why should you become a citizen just because you are born within the borders of a country? That makes no sense.
ccp use it to create bank accounts in the us so they can become richer in china by transferring all their money to the us while they devalue the money in china.
shiff's district was notorious for "birthing tourism".
How does one even be a citizen if being born here don't count? Wouldn't that mean nobody is an American citizen?
Like how would you even be a citizen then? Your father, grandfather, and great grandfather were all born in US, but they retroactively and posthumously have citizenship revoked, which makes you what? Does that make you an illegal? Does that make everyone an illegal? Wouldn't this give the power for Trump to deport literally anyone he chooses? He could just deport democrats en mass to rig elections, or deport dissidents, or deport anyone who doesn't buy his meme coin.
It's only that if you don't believe in the concept of nations, or have some misguided belief that all peoples are interchangeable
You are garbage, you won massive power and have done nothing good with it.
Whoa whoa slow down you're adding too many layers and you're essentially asking a Anon Babblecel to think critically. I'm sure he gave up trying to understand half way through your analogy in frustration.
Because the houses have different values, cultures etc. It's one thing if the mouse whose parents are from one house acclimates to the other house he was born in, it's another if a bunch of mice move in from another house and try to keep the same way of living despite the friction it causes with the mice already living in their new house
Why is it bad
because it entices people to break our laws to then shit out a kid which they can use as an anchor to remain in the country. We should be doing everything we can to dissuade illegal entry into the country as it brings about nothing but a net negative for the citizenry. See: Germany and the daily terrorist attacks while jews tell you that White people are bad.
No other nation gives citizenship to the children of illegals that hop the border.
Yeah they should just be like you and offer nothing of value than surface level criticisms with no articulated analysis
If the mouse upholds the values and laws of the stable and allows black stallions to ride it, why shouldn't it be considered a legal citizen of this stable?
Eight of your founding fathers weren't even born in the colonies/continent. None of them were born in the United States
no, you're a citizen if your parent is a citizen. that's it, that's the only way. that's what "birthright" actually means.
fat spic slithers across the border illegally
shits out brown subhuman
mes american now
laws, legal decisions and executive orders are not retroactive you concern trolling faggot
Alice Johnson and Marie Johnson both have babies
Alice has her baby in her husband Jim's house
Marie goes into labor at her friend Susie McCallister's house and has her baby
is Marie's baby a McCallister?
That's the problem, they often don't uphold the values and just letting anyone in offers no ways or filtering those who won't out
Faggot
I dont rmemeber Garcia, eagle feather, or Mohammed signing the delcarati9n of independence. America is a nation of laws. They may be native but they are not native Americans, just native savages.
Half of the Republican party are sons of cuban immigrants.
You shouldn't punish children for the crimes of their parents. The state should take the children and kick out the parents, then raise the kids to be loyal citizens and ICE agents.
isnt banning dual-citizenship more effective?
We're just deporting ourselves. No big deal.
Imagine a deportation package that allows you to settle comfortably in your heritage's country of origin. I'd gtfo asap.
Well, grant them a temporary citizenship until they are 25, then make them take a test just like adult immigrants. This should be the norm globally; I am not trying to die on that hill, I agree with you, but challenge that standpoint as well.
Aren't you afraid that in a few years your government will use this as a way to say "you have no rights since you are not a citzen"?
it was to protect the children of slaves. but now its being abused, as there are no longer slaves. you can no longer hop the boarder and pop out 5 new citizens. the concept of "citizenship" is fascinating. It's a social construct that has been used to manipulate populations and control them for centuries. Current immigration policies are outdated and ineffective, creating a false sense of security while fueling division and hatred. I will Abolish citizenship as we know it. There will be no more borders, no more passports, and no more visas. The world will be united, with each individual treated as an equal and free to live, work, and travel anywhere on Earth This will lead to a more efficient, open society where people are no longer excluded or marginalized based on their origins. In this world, there is no need for artificial barriers like citizenship, and every person will be considered a global citizen, enjoying the same rights, privileges, and opportunities. Let the chaos commence, as this is the dawn of a new era for humanity where the world witnesses the true potential of equality and freedom!
If anything I’d say they should go further and make it so only private individual landowners could qualify for citizenship. Gotta have skin in the game to play
born in the USA
AND SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF
Illegals never subjected themselves to the jurisdiction thereof and their kids didnt either, so the children they had are not American citizens. Simple as. Any supreme court ruling (legislating from the judicial) that says anything else will be thrown out.
If your parents are british, then you are british no matter where you are born.
wrong we are getting flooded with somalis nigerians and haitians
Retard take even slaves were immigrants send the niggers back they are not american you canned fish sucking faggot
They didn't think about millions of illegal immigrants flooding the country when they made that law.
If I rob a bank and then buy my son a Ferrari with the money, does he legally own the Ferrari?
You shouldn't punish children for the crimes of their parents.
it's not a punishment, it's simply not rewarding them
Slaves didnt immigrate their they were taken from their homeland. They also tried to deport blacks but it failed
You shouldn't punish children for the crimes of their parents
but breaking up families would punish that child and leave the child with mental scars from that separation at a young age
You'll be handing the reigns to Chinese realtors, Canadian. Additionally, this policy would do little other than further empower landlords - a notoriously overprivileged class as it is - while disenfranchising the majority productive class. It invites justified violent revolution.
The Enlightenment and liberal democracy is a negative consequence for the civilized world. Saying that people have inalienable rights which supercede law is idealistic bullshit for enabling this false equivalence. Citizenship is derived from heritage or is earned through respecting lawful procedure; illegally hopping a border into another country and spawning an anchor baby is illegitimate.
*sigh*
Someone else will claim it's a horse, dumbass. That sums up the entire left. Men are women and mice are horses.
blame foreigners who abused the loophole.
Because if I sneak into your house and shit out a kid, it doesn't make you the daddy.
executive orders are not retroactive
You think Trump cares? You think anyone cares at this point?
That girl from Tufts university who got arrested for an op-ed was retroactive. They claimed she a threat to the US foreign policy, but she wrote her op-ed before Trump changed the foreign policy, applying the laws retroactively.
It's not a question "oh I'm so concerned trolling about what happens IF someday they may think about they do this thing." No, They are doing this shit today, right fucking now, and you got your in the sand, a prayer in your heart be like "everything will be fine trust us."
Because you should be of the nationality of the parents and if they are of different nationality then it should default to the mother's nationality.
His textbook talk show tactics, like an attention whore.
Signing an executive bill on any unlawful and controversial topic;
Challenged in Court;
Lost the legal battle;
Do it anyway, to keep generating attention grabbing topics.
While all of these happening, America's death spiral is accelerated.
birthright citizenship is how you end up with what are known here in the States as 'anchor babies'
Visit any paternity ward of any hospital in the southwestern part of the United States and they are over-run with pregnant illegals who come here to birth their spawn so they can get instant access to all the gibs.
Yfw colonists once again up in their bullshit trying to pretend they are a real people not descendants of wierd christian communes ran out of europe during the age of reason camping on another peoples soil.
Why are mutts so racist? is it an insecurity thing?
Depends if Marie lived in Susie’s house before she had the baby and stayed there long-term thereafter. if yes, hell yeah, she’s an Irish McCallister alright!
no, that's not "applying laws retroactively", thats someone who is in the country as a guest having their status revoked by the State Department, which is entirely within their right at any time for any reason since this is a sovereign nation. again, you are a concern trolling faggot and no one buys any of your bullshit.
why
melting pot mistake
why
rising tide of poo
>AND SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF
Illegals never subjected themselves to the jurisdiction thereof
US courts looked at then”subject to the jurisdiction” line in the 14th amendment and concluded there were 4-5 situations when a baby born is not subject to the jurisdiction of the US: (a) foreign diplomat’s babies, (b) babies born to soldiers of foreign powers invading America, (c) babies born on foreign warships while in US waters, (d) US native Indians in unregulated areas of the US where Us authorities could not reach due to safety issues, and these areas were run by native Indians. The SCOTUS decided that a Chinese individual born in the US is a US citizen even if both parents were in the US without being Us citizens and were not legally in the Us under the laws back then.
You should, as long as one of your parents are a citizen of said country. To hell with illegals and their anchor baby crotch goblins.
If I rob a bank and then buy my son a Ferrari with the money, does he legally own the Ferrari?
pretty much yes, if your son pays you money for thr Ferrari and does not know of your theft
trump is such an orange retard
So, send the kids back with their parents. Problem solved.
It just incentivizes shitskins to "travel" to the US when they're about to shit out a kid. It's just yet another avenue for bad actors to jump the line and game the system.
Because it's an evidently abused practice.
pretty much yes,
no, that's not how it works here
it works everywhere this way, otherwise you would have to background check every last present you get from anyone
it works everywhere this way
not in the United States. Educate yourself nigger.
it also works in America this way.
if someone gives you a coca cola as a present and you drink it not knowing you stole it, that’s it. you are not liable.
ban birthright citizenship
Good.
We did that in 1981 but before the law went into effect, a surge of a few dozen thousands non whites(that was a *lot* back then, because multicultural/racial Britain didn't actually exist until the mid 1990's onwards, fun fact for you) flocked to the UK to give birth for unrestricted nationality to their children.
The new leader of the "conservatives"(lmao) is one of these people. Her mum explicitly brought herself to the UK in 1980 while extremely pregnant just to give birth here so her child would be "British" and then she went back to Nigeria with said child about two months after for the next 16 years before the child returned to the UK for free education reasons. The sole reason was to ensure her daughter got British citizenship instantly.
Nowadays one parent must be a British citizen(should be both and it should be genealogical checked!) to have the child classed as British, this is another major issue due to the total flood of non stop open border suicidal migration of the third world.
"Kemi Badenoch" btw is her known forename and married surname. Real name is Olukemi Olufunto Adegoke. Truly a "British conservative".
I will never vote for an anchor baby or non European.
What is the difference between this and regulating the 2nd ammendment?
maybe for something small like a soda, but asset forfeiture is a very real thing that happens all the time here.
youtube.com
again, educate yourself
Dumb analogy.
A stable isn’t the horses’ nation or a civilization that they built.
Mice are different species and never claim to be a horse, let alone stay in the stable.
We can't have a folk and culture without ethnos. The outsider has to be kept out to preserve our way of life and tribe. Everyone consciously or subconsciously understands this. If you're not on board you are a moron, traitor or outsider trying to invade. Mutts are just fallout.
Miggers will cry their Jew tears for another decade when Trump loses this shit in court next week kek.
I agree, all the english, germans and spaniards that came to america should not be considered americans
A stable isn’t a nation.
Horses don’t build stables.
A mouse never claims the stable to be its home, neither being a horse.
You are not smart. But pretending to be.
Half of the Republican party are sons of cuban immigrants
What a curious statement. What do you mean by this?
Eight of your founding fathers weren't even born in the colonies/continent.
But, all (8) of them were White, and were founding a White ethnostate.
Under U.S. law, property acquired with proceeds from criminal activity is subject to forfeiture. This applies regardless of whether the property is in the hands of the original offender or an innocent third party. The principle of civil asset forfeiture allows the government to seize property connected to criminal conduct, even if the current possessor is not charged with a crime. This is because the action is against the property itself (in rem), not the individual.
even in pawn shops it works this way in america, if they get sold a stolen item then the police confiscate the item and return it to the original owner
t guy who watches way to much pawn stars
Hmmm
Bona fide acquisition is a thing
doesn't mean the stolen asset won't be forfeit. You've lost, you don't know what you're talking about.
A bona fide purchaser (BFP) is someone who buys property or property rights in good faith, for a valuable consideration, and without notice of any other person's claim or interest in the property. Essentially, they purchase the property without knowing that someone else has a legitimate claim to it.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Key Elements of a Bona Fide Purchaser:
Good Faith: The purchaser must act honestly and without any intention to deceive or take advantage of the seller or other parties.
Valuable Consideration: The purchaser must pay a fair price for the property.
Absence of Notice: The purchaser must not have actual or constructive notice (i.e., knowledge that could be obtained through reasonable diligence) of any other person's claim or interest in the property.
Protections for Bona Fide Purchasers:
Protection of Title:
If a purchaser qualifies as a bona fide purchaser, they generally take good title to the property, even if the seller did not have a clear right to sell it.
Priority over Other Claims:
A bona fide purchaser's claim to the property will typically take precedence over the claims of other parties who may have an interest in the property but who were not bona fide purchasers.
Examples of Bona Fide Purchasers:
A person buys a house from a seller without knowing that the seller's title to the property is defective.
A person purchases a car from a dealership without knowing that the car was stolen.
yeah, that's cool you know how to google.
Yes but gifts are not protected from forfeiture. The original example indicated the person robbing the bank also bought the vehicle and gifted it to their son.
So you got a point against what I just posted?
Like everything else, it was abused....
the second he leaves office all of it will be over turned
we're making english the official language
4d chess move
now they will attack the legitimacy of the english language in muttland for eternity until spanish is equal or has more use than english
They did, and explicitly said it did not apply to them.
You have no point. Someone born to parents not legally in the United States can absolutely have their citizenship revoked, and there is a legal precedent for it.
Mass deportations and tariffs are good, though.
No
A "bona fide gift taker" of stolen goods refers to someone who receives a gift (stolen goods) without knowing it was obtained illegally and without any intention to receive anything in return. In legal terms, a bona fide gift taker is similar to a bona fide purchaser, meaning they act in good faith, without notice of any defects in the title of the property. However, while a bona fide purchaser typically needs to pay for the property, a gift is given without expectation of compensation.
It'll all be overturned in 4 years
This is the way I feel. I'm waiting until whatever happens on the 15th but if either there aren't laws enshrined or heads on pikes and blood in the streets from all these traitors, I'm done
Clearly you mean the nation is more important than a simple stable and in being so must be more secure than the stable. Obviously
I don't think a test is adequate, that just checks knowledge and not emotions, values, loyalty etc
Because the system was abused. Brown people will bend the white mans law and trust is broken.
Ok, apply that to slavs, jews, irish and italians.
Whatever proteccionist argument you make, it goes back to you.
You would sound more sane if you say that America should be white anglo, only. But no, your ancestor’s greed is your today’s political detriment.
Illegal migrants, visa holders and their children are not American. Period.
What are you saying?
Let me ask you, are you jewish? Cause there is an awful lot of pilpul going on in this thread
Why shouldn’t you be a citizen of the country you are born in?
Because you have no claim to it. Citizenship is passed down which is why your parents can bring you home to their country even if you're born in another one.
The cool thing about being a voting American is that I can discriminate. I don't need to have the "moral high ground", my opinion on the matter is the only thing that matters. Yours does not.
Anchor babies.
You’re not addressing the point
Yes, I am of course Jewsih like everyone here.
as you well know, the religion of a poster determines the logic of the post.
What point are you trying to make?
That your nations is built with liberal democratic values that attempts legislations policies for the benefit of “americans”, which it’s a term not ambiguous, because “american” means people born in the nation.
European settlers’ children are americans, natives are americans, jewish ww2 refugees’ children are americans, irish slaves’ children are americans, italian fascist refugees’ children are americans.
If you want to legislate laws against mexicans’ children being americans, then you have to apply to literally everyone in America, including you.
Basically pointing out political hypocrasy.
Why shouldn’t you be a citizen of the country you are born in?
If you discovered cockroaches starting to infest your house, would you consider them legal permanent residents of your house and begin to take care of them and grow their population?
Additionally, ammendments are not open to propagandist interpretations. If you’re modifying the 14th ammendment, then you’re opening doors on modifying other ammendments, like the 1st and the 2nd.
I'm fairly sure he can't do that
If you want to legislate laws against mexicans’ children being americans, then you have to apply to literally everyone in America, including you.
I only want the children of illegal immigrants deported. People who come here legally and have children should have citizenship extended to their children. All the examples you listed came here legally, or before the united states was founded.
If you want to legislate laws against mexicans’ children being americans, then you have to apply to literally everyone in America, including you.
I only want the children of illegal immigrants deported. People who come here legally and have children should have citizenship extended to their children. All the examples you listed came here legally, or before the united states was founded.
The amendments were always able to be modified and changed. nothing new is happening.
If Trump pretends to be such America first why won't he ban dual citizenship then?
Your ancestors were illegal.
Jewish ancestors were illegal.
Irish were illegal.
Italians were illegal.
All of them arribed in American illegally, but America’s made them citizens.
I only want
Nobody cares, laws don’t care what you want. That’s not an argument
*crickets*
He’s right dickless dipshit maga trash.
This will destroy his legacy and MAGA will lose all power.
This is tea party type shit.
You’re warned.
Should Chinese people be able to come over here on vacation to have a child on american soil and their child gets citizenship? No, it's a broken system that gets exploited a lot.
you lost tranny and will continue to lose, democrats have a 20% approval rating
Your ancestors were illegal.
Jewish ancestors were illegal.
Irish were illegal.
Italians were illegal.
That's just factually false. People could just come to the united states to work because the industrial revolution made it easy for people to come over and get jobs in factories. The vast majority of Irish and Italian immigrants who came to the port of entry on Ellis island were legal. You know nothing of US history.
Nobody cares, laws don’t care what you want. That’s not an argument
As a voting American my opinion DOES matter. I voted for Trump, I voted for republican senators and my house rep. This country is mine, and it's a real republic.
Go back to your fucking country, Ahmed, or I am going to skin you alive and wear it as a coat.
The amendments were always able to be modified and changed. nothing new is happening.
That is true. Therefore I said that you are openning doors on changing other ammendments by your opposites, like democrats wishing to change the 2nd ammendment.
See your problem is thinking thus
maga used their power to make their lives better, by removing the power I had to fuck them over
And you think
that's bad
Because like he said you're a narcissistic tranny. The world needs you dead, because you're a cancerous little minority t hat spends all your time trying to undermine society for your benefit.
like democrats wishing to change the 2nd ammendment.
yeah, And as a voter I use my rights to prevent them from doing so. The problem for you is that a lot of Americans think like me, and want the same as me. That's why things are happening the way they are happening.
It's already being heard by the SCOTUS in a few days you subhuman retard, it can't be struck down because the letter of the law by the arguments of the framers of the 14th shows that it only applies to citizens and their children, not foreigners, and the court is majority originalist which means they will uphold it. You lose because you're a fucking nigger and a faggot, now go be a tranny in mexico.
The laws already on the books when the 14th amendment was ratified all specified that you could not become a citizen of the US if you were subject to any foreign power. All foreigners, aliens, diplomats, native americans, and their children were subject to their tribe, country or origin, or the same power their parents were subject to. The only people not covered at the time were african slaves and their descendant, which is the only population the 14th amendment was intended to affect, and everyone involved with the 14th amendment was very clear on this.
Birthright citizenship is a subversive jewish misinterpretation meant only to demographically replace white people.
I lot americans think like me.
Not an argument
As a voter I use my rights to prevent them
Not the point.
My point is that, what is “american”? The law says that anyone who’s born in America.
If Trump changes that, then what is “american”, if it falls into arbitrariness, then being “american” is an illusion.
My point is that, what is “american”? The law says that anyone who’s born in America.
If Trump changes that, then what is “american”, if it falls into arbitrariness, then being “american” is an illusion.
I don't even know, and not the point i'm even arguing. It's legal and possible for President Trump to change to law to prevent birthright citizenship.
My point is that, what is “american”?
Go take a look at what the people who literally created The US and its constitution and original naturalization act considered eligible to be a citizen and you'll find your answer.
Because you’re brown and your way of life is not compatible with ours.
Now you understand how retarded birthright citizenship is. The reason it's retarded is because it was never intended to work the way it does.
You literal minded first order thinking brainlets are a constant source of entertainment.
Illegals are under the jurisdiction of their home country.
This creates not only legal troubles and security risks, but encourages criminal behavior.
It is also directly against the amendment since the makers discussed it in great detail.
You didn't post shit, you copy/pasted something you don't even understand in a desperate brainlet attempt to win an internet argument with a stranger.
You lost, now kill yourself.
the virgin executive order. The Chad Constitutional amendment
AT LEAST PASS A FUCKING LEGISLATION DAMN IT!
Don't pretend to know the values of my country you foreign piece of shit. Mind your own fucking business and stay in your shithole.
This, but also the multi generation burden on the host countries
Bonafide acquisition FOR VALUE
t. Birdman Lawyer
No one owes you an explanation, so I’ll keep it brief: we do NOT want you.
America (and Germany) is White, “native” Americans should consider themselves lucky they’re still around after the shit they pulled.
To be an American is to be White.
America was founded and built by Germanic (mostly Anglo) people.
Same way that to be Chinese, you must be Chinese.
Time to face the wall, Tranny. It's about time. Are you ready? I hope I get to be the one who pulls the trigger, if I'm being honest. Etch this post into your fucking tombstone.
wow another toothless EO that will go nowhere just like all the others. no need to actually get legislation passed.
The state should take the children and kick out the parents, then raise the kids to be loyal citizens and ICE agents.
Absolute retard take, URSS even attempted that and it ended up with a bunch of drug addicts and whores because to everyone surprise a bureaucrat is quite shitty at parenting
I smarter than you mutt
I smarter
You sure are buddy
A piece a paper made by anglocucks that can be changed (arbitrariness) don’t matter to me.
If you don’t see the dumbness of the foundation of your nation, then you should not be taken seriously.
I just don't want you here is all.
should be both and it should be genealogical checked!
that's insane, if every country required both then every mxed marriage would have stateless children.
I don’t know
Then I’m not going to answer your low IQ zogged mind
Birthright citizenship isn't why I'm getting fucked on taxes and my kid's school sucks ass
A mere typo means that you’re not smart
Whatever makes you feel better buddy
My ancestors created the United States. They and their government said non-whites couldn't be citizens. Birthright citizenship is bad because it allows illegal invaders to plop out disgusting children invaders who get to vote.
Huge problem with Chinese sneaking pregnant women in here and then shitting out a little ricecel, then immediately leaving for the motherland, gifting their microdick kid a US citizenship when he turns 18.
Trump did the right thing.
muh constitution just paper lmao arbitrary
If this is your attitude, then don't be surprised when the people who's ancestors founded the US for them consider your life arbitrary (and valueless)
Muh Russia invades. Millions of pregnant Russian women travel to the occupied area and give birth.
Should those kids be US citizens?
why should an imaginary line of demarcation determine citizenship? why not just make everyone on planet earth a german citizen? why are you stupid?
because it is abused to a comical level.
we are all one race, the human race. we are all one nation, the human nation. everyone is equaaaaaallll :)
Key Elements of a Bona Fide Purchaser:
Good Faith: The purchaser must act honestly and without any intention to deceive or take advantage of the seller or other parties.
DING! End of discussion. The qualities of US Citizenship are understood by the entering illegal, who has intentionally avoided the proper entry points by coming in through or over the fence. This proves they know there's distinction they are failing, they are not in Good Faith.
The Anchor Baby Mother (ABM) knows there are distinctions, and is aiming for the benefits of that distinction to remain in the US by abusing the ignorance of the Child and the Err of a Reading. The child will be raised as thought it is part of the US Nation, but its parentage will never be able to complete the duties of the US Nation, in fact teaching the Child to be Enemy of the State, by Defacto Emulation, a core necessity of infants and minors generally. ABM knows there are differences in Nations, knows that the Nation will "give more earthly Goods, and thus abuses Trust in Human Goodness and in the Child.
A child raised in an ABM household will necessarily hold distrust for lawful government, and be forced into Aiding and Abetting a Felon, from the outset of their consciousness. That is not Good Faith.
The baby has no bad faith.
the 14th amendment does not mention parents, it looks at the baby only
Once the courts fail im down to kill you too, it would be a a duty at that point.
babies don't have agency to either birth themselves or declare themselves citizens thereby automatically granting a parent guardianship and rights to make such assertions
The baby has no bad faith.
Right, but the US already determined you can be on US Soil and NOT be under Full US Jurisdiction. In fact, defacto, if you were Always under US Jurisidiction, you couldn't even commit a crime.
Since she's in the act of crime, Bad Faith, and is doing so Hostile not only to an Individual (which would be enough) but indeed is doing the crime to everyone AND her unborn, her Status as Under Jurisdiction is clearly absurd. None of the other people involved would have made this decision for her, ipso they have no Jurisdiction at that moment.
Jurisdiction is Lost and Restored in Order to Peace, or that's how I read it.
Native Indians were not Full Citizens of the US, despite being born in Nations that were capable of being defined and controlled by the US Government, because in their territories they were Subject to Other Laws. As a Pirate, ABM has No Rights and does not act under US Jurisdiction, as a Foreign Citizen in a Crime on US Soil, she is Subject to her Home Nation's Laws and treaties, and in both that claim and her crime, is not Fully Subject to US Jurisdiction.
And yet the 14th amendment only refers to the baby, not the parents: “ All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
The SCOTUS decided that a Chinese individual born in the US is a US citizen even if both parents were in the US without being Us citizens and were not legally in the Us
other way around, the chink railworkers were here legally. that is why trumps side is using wong kim ark to argue to their advantage, and the opposition is using the "lets imagine trump is right, so what?" defense
nice try though
14th amendment does not mention parents,
And you're wrong here too.
All persons born ...and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, ...
If it was automatic jurisdiction, this couldn't exist, or would be redundant.
neither are whites
Are you trying to say tourists are like native Indians living in tourist colonies in the US called “resorts” where American lawmen cannot enter and US law does not apply and this is why Westworld (tv show) was in the Us?
babies not havent the mental agency to declare for themselves a single thing, the amendment is thus invalidated upon a simple request from the baby itself; Do you declare yourself a citizen of the United States of America, baby? "gaga goooo"
Case closed. No one is granted automatic citizenship unless birthed by a citizen or immigrant married to a citizen, within the US boundaries.
SCOTUS ruling was clearly and obviously wrong and jew'd up the asshole and should immediately be re-evaluated for logical deduction upon the capacity of an infant to fucking claim citizenship sans at least 1 American citizen parent.
no legislation has been passed that grants anchor babies us citizenship, yet here we are
Based. Jews are SEETHING at this so it must be a good thing
Why? Indians living in Indian places in 1868 in the US were not subject to the jurisdiction of the Us, they had their own courts. same for diplomats’ kids or foreign naval warships in US rivers or nuclear submarines birthing Soviet babies in 1957 in the fjords of Alaska.
The Law of Nations defines the basic Duties and Rights of travelers on foriegn lands, most central is obeying the laws and order of the place you are guest.
Pretty sure when you snuck into the US in the back of a fruit-palate truck, you were aware you were not obeying.
Why even bother defending this?
if two foreigners have a baby on a US military base it is not a us citizen
Correct, two people breaking US immigration laws are not awarded or rewarded for sneaking within the US borders an immigrant baby, undoubtedly conceived outside US borders. FIN
dividing the country with every single decision.
Correct, we're dividing the illegals and sending them right back.