Why shouldn’t you be a citizen of the country you are born in?
Why is birthright citizenship bad?
a mouse born in a stable is not a horse.
did the mouse ever claim its a horse?
Refugees and illegals
Retarded analogy. Neither witty nor clever.
yes
Do niggers claim to be American?
because brown "people" ruin white civilizations
Just breaking everything, dividing the country with every single decision. Putting courts in overdrive with every decision. This cunt will ruin us.
niggers aren't immigrating to the US, retard, they're already there
You should be a citizen of the country where your parents legally belong.
right, but calling all maga supporters garbage humans wasn't diving the country in half. you lost tranny
Ok, let’s assume a mouse is born in House A and another mouse is born in House B. if these mice are related, why would this change the reltionship of mouse A with HouseA?
Obviously will be quickly struck down by a court but that's the intent so it can go to the Supreme Court.
You can be a citizen so long as your parents are here legally with some kind of permanent residence. You don't get the benefits of being an American just because your mother managed to shit you out on American territory. That's insane.
Why should you become a citizen just because you are born within the borders of a country? That makes no sense.
ccp use it to create bank accounts in the us so they can become richer in china by transferring all their money to the us while they devalue the money in china.
shiff's district was notorious for "birthing tourism".
How does one even be a citizen if being born here don't count? Wouldn't that mean nobody is an American citizen?
Like how would you even be a citizen then? Your father, grandfather, and great grandfather were all born in US, but they retroactively and posthumously have citizenship revoked, which makes you what? Does that make you an illegal? Does that make everyone an illegal? Wouldn't this give the power for Trump to deport literally anyone he chooses? He could just deport democrats en mass to rig elections, or deport dissidents, or deport anyone who doesn't buy his meme coin.
It's only that if you don't believe in the concept of nations, or have some misguided belief that all peoples are interchangeable
You are garbage, you won massive power and have done nothing good with it.
Whoa whoa slow down you're adding too many layers and you're essentially asking a Anon Babblecel to think critically. I'm sure he gave up trying to understand half way through your analogy in frustration.
Because the houses have different values, cultures etc. It's one thing if the mouse whose parents are from one house acclimates to the other house he was born in, it's another if a bunch of mice move in from another house and try to keep the same way of living despite the friction it causes with the mice already living in their new house
Why is it bad
because it entices people to break our laws to then shit out a kid which they can use as an anchor to remain in the country. We should be doing everything we can to dissuade illegal entry into the country as it brings about nothing but a net negative for the citizenry. See: Germany and the daily terrorist attacks while jews tell you that White people are bad.
No other nation gives citizenship to the children of illegals that hop the border.
Yeah they should just be like you and offer nothing of value than surface level criticisms with no articulated analysis
If the mouse upholds the values and laws of the stable and allows black stallions to ride it, why shouldn't it be considered a legal citizen of this stable?
Eight of your founding fathers weren't even born in the colonies/continent. None of them were born in the United States
no, you're a citizen if your parent is a citizen. that's it, that's the only way. that's what "birthright" actually means.
fat spic slithers across the border illegally
shits out brown subhuman
mes american now
laws, legal decisions and executive orders are not retroactive you concern trolling faggot
Alice Johnson and Marie Johnson both have babies
Alice has her baby in her husband Jim's house
Marie goes into labor at her friend Susie McCallister's house and has her baby
is Marie's baby a McCallister?
That's the problem, they often don't uphold the values and just letting anyone in offers no ways or filtering those who won't out
Faggot
I dont rmemeber Garcia, eagle feather, or Mohammed signing the delcarati9n of independence. America is a nation of laws. They may be native but they are not native Americans, just native savages.
Half of the Republican party are sons of cuban immigrants.
You shouldn't punish children for the crimes of their parents. The state should take the children and kick out the parents, then raise the kids to be loyal citizens and ICE agents.
isnt banning dual-citizenship more effective?
We're just deporting ourselves. No big deal.
Imagine a deportation package that allows you to settle comfortably in your heritage's country of origin. I'd gtfo asap.
Well, grant them a temporary citizenship until they are 25, then make them take a test just like adult immigrants. This should be the norm globally; I am not trying to die on that hill, I agree with you, but challenge that standpoint as well.
Aren't you afraid that in a few years your government will use this as a way to say "you have no rights since you are not a citzen"?
it was to protect the children of slaves. but now its being abused, as there are no longer slaves. you can no longer hop the boarder and pop out 5 new citizens. the concept of "citizenship" is fascinating. It's a social construct that has been used to manipulate populations and control them for centuries. Current immigration policies are outdated and ineffective, creating a false sense of security while fueling division and hatred. I will Abolish citizenship as we know it. There will be no more borders, no more passports, and no more visas. The world will be united, with each individual treated as an equal and free to live, work, and travel anywhere on Earth This will lead to a more efficient, open society where people are no longer excluded or marginalized based on their origins. In this world, there is no need for artificial barriers like citizenship, and every person will be considered a global citizen, enjoying the same rights, privileges, and opportunities. Let the chaos commence, as this is the dawn of a new era for humanity where the world witnesses the true potential of equality and freedom!
If anything I’d say they should go further and make it so only private individual landowners could qualify for citizenship. Gotta have skin in the game to play
born in the USA
AND SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF
Illegals never subjected themselves to the jurisdiction thereof and their kids didnt either, so the children they had are not American citizens. Simple as. Any supreme court ruling (legislating from the judicial) that says anything else will be thrown out.
If your parents are british, then you are british no matter where you are born.
wrong we are getting flooded with somalis nigerians and haitians
Retard take even slaves were immigrants send the niggers back they are not american you canned fish sucking faggot
They didn't think about millions of illegal immigrants flooding the country when they made that law.
If I rob a bank and then buy my son a Ferrari with the money, does he legally own the Ferrari?
You shouldn't punish children for the crimes of their parents.
it's not a punishment, it's simply not rewarding them
Slaves didnt immigrate their they were taken from their homeland. They also tried to deport blacks but it failed
You shouldn't punish children for the crimes of their parents
but breaking up families would punish that child and leave the child with mental scars from that separation at a young age
You'll be handing the reigns to Chinese realtors, Canadian. Additionally, this policy would do little other than further empower landlords - a notoriously overprivileged class as it is - while disenfranchising the majority productive class. It invites justified violent revolution.
The Enlightenment and liberal democracy is a negative consequence for the civilized world. Saying that people have inalienable rights which supercede law is idealistic bullshit for enabling this false equivalence. Citizenship is derived from heritage or is earned through respecting lawful procedure; illegally hopping a border into another country and spawning an anchor baby is illegitimate.
*sigh*
Someone else will claim it's a horse, dumbass. That sums up the entire left. Men are women and mice are horses.
blame foreigners who abused the loophole.
Because if I sneak into your house and shit out a kid, it doesn't make you the daddy.
executive orders are not retroactive
You think Trump cares? You think anyone cares at this point?
That girl from Tufts university who got arrested for an op-ed was retroactive. They claimed she a threat to the US foreign policy, but she wrote her op-ed before Trump changed the foreign policy, applying the laws retroactively.
It's not a question "oh I'm so concerned trolling about what happens IF someday they may think about they do this thing." No, They are doing this shit today, right fucking now, and you got your in the sand, a prayer in your heart be like "everything will be fine trust us."
Because you should be of the nationality of the parents and if they are of different nationality then it should default to the mother's nationality.
His textbook talk show tactics, like an attention whore.
Signing an executive bill on any unlawful and controversial topic;
Challenged in Court;
Lost the legal battle;
Do it anyway, to keep generating attention grabbing topics.
While all of these happening, America's death spiral is accelerated.
birthright citizenship is how you end up with what are known here in the States as 'anchor babies'
Visit any paternity ward of any hospital in the southwestern part of the United States and they are over-run with pregnant illegals who come here to birth their spawn so they can get instant access to all the gibs.
Yfw colonists once again up in their bullshit trying to pretend they are a real people not descendants of wierd christian communes ran out of europe during the age of reason camping on another peoples soil.
Why are mutts so racist? is it an insecurity thing?
Depends if Marie lived in Susie’s house before she had the baby and stayed there long-term thereafter. if yes, hell yeah, she’s an Irish McCallister alright!
no, that's not "applying laws retroactively", thats someone who is in the country as a guest having their status revoked by the State Department, which is entirely within their right at any time for any reason since this is a sovereign nation. again, you are a concern trolling faggot and no one buys any of your bullshit.
why
melting pot mistake
why
rising tide of poo
>AND SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF
Illegals never subjected themselves to the jurisdiction thereof
US courts looked at then”subject to the jurisdiction” line in the 14th amendment and concluded there were 4-5 situations when a baby born is not subject to the jurisdiction of the US: (a) foreign diplomat’s babies, (b) babies born to soldiers of foreign powers invading America, (c) babies born on foreign warships while in US waters, (d) US native Indians in unregulated areas of the US where Us authorities could not reach due to safety issues, and these areas were run by native Indians. The SCOTUS decided that a Chinese individual born in the US is a US citizen even if both parents were in the US without being Us citizens and were not legally in the Us under the laws back then.
You should, as long as one of your parents are a citizen of said country. To hell with illegals and their anchor baby crotch goblins.
If I rob a bank and then buy my son a Ferrari with the money, does he legally own the Ferrari?
pretty much yes, if your son pays you money for thr Ferrari and does not know of your theft
trump is such an orange retard
So, send the kids back with their parents. Problem solved.
It just incentivizes shitskins to "travel" to the US when they're about to shit out a kid. It's just yet another avenue for bad actors to jump the line and game the system.
Because it's an evidently abused practice.
pretty much yes,
no, that's not how it works here
it works everywhere this way, otherwise you would have to background check every last present you get from anyone
it works everywhere this way
not in the United States. Educate yourself nigger.
it also works in America this way.
if someone gives you a coca cola as a present and you drink it not knowing you stole it, that’s it. you are not liable.
ban birthright citizenship
Good.
We did that in 1981 but before the law went into effect, a surge of a few dozen thousands non whites(that was a *lot* back then, because multicultural/racial Britain didn't actually exist until the mid 1990's onwards, fun fact for you) flocked to the UK to give birth for unrestricted nationality to their children.
The new leader of the "conservatives"(lmao) is one of these people. Her mum explicitly brought herself to the UK in 1980 while extremely pregnant just to give birth here so her child would be "British" and then she went back to Nigeria with said child about two months after for the next 16 years before the child returned to the UK for free education reasons. The sole reason was to ensure her daughter got British citizenship instantly.
Nowadays one parent must be a British citizen(should be both and it should be genealogical checked!) to have the child classed as British, this is another major issue due to the total flood of non stop open border suicidal migration of the third world.
"Kemi Badenoch" btw is her known forename and married surname. Real name is Olukemi Olufunto Adegoke. Truly a "British conservative".
I will never vote for an anchor baby or non European.
What is the difference between this and regulating the 2nd ammendment?
maybe for something small like a soda, but asset forfeiture is a very real thing that happens all the time here.
youtube.com
again, educate yourself
Dumb analogy.
A stable isn’t the horses’ nation or a civilization that they built.
Mice are different species and never claim to be a horse, let alone stay in the stable.
We can't have a folk and culture without ethnos. The outsider has to be kept out to preserve our way of life and tribe. Everyone consciously or subconsciously understands this. If you're not on board you are a moron, traitor or outsider trying to invade. Mutts are just fallout.
Miggers will cry their Jew tears for another decade when Trump loses this shit in court next week kek.
I agree, all the english, germans and spaniards that came to america should not be considered americans
A stable isn’t a nation.
Horses don’t build stables.
A mouse never claims the stable to be its home, neither being a horse.
You are not smart. But pretending to be.
Half of the Republican party are sons of cuban immigrants
What a curious statement. What do you mean by this?
Eight of your founding fathers weren't even born in the colonies/continent.
But, all (8) of them were White, and were founding a White ethnostate.
Under U.S. law, property acquired with proceeds from criminal activity is subject to forfeiture. This applies regardless of whether the property is in the hands of the original offender or an innocent third party. The principle of civil asset forfeiture allows the government to seize property connected to criminal conduct, even if the current possessor is not charged with a crime. This is because the action is against the property itself (in rem), not the individual.
even in pawn shops it works this way in america, if they get sold a stolen item then the police confiscate the item and return it to the original owner
t guy who watches way to much pawn stars
Hmmm
Bona fide acquisition is a thing
doesn't mean the stolen asset won't be forfeit. You've lost, you don't know what you're talking about.
A bona fide purchaser (BFP) is someone who buys property or property rights in good faith, for a valuable consideration, and without notice of any other person's claim or interest in the property. Essentially, they purchase the property without knowing that someone else has a legitimate claim to it.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Key Elements of a Bona Fide Purchaser:
Good Faith: The purchaser must act honestly and without any intention to deceive or take advantage of the seller or other parties.
Valuable Consideration: The purchaser must pay a fair price for the property.
Absence of Notice: The purchaser must not have actual or constructive notice (i.e., knowledge that could be obtained through reasonable diligence) of any other person's claim or interest in the property.
Protections for Bona Fide Purchasers:
Protection of Title:
If a purchaser qualifies as a bona fide purchaser, they generally take good title to the property, even if the seller did not have a clear right to sell it.
Priority over Other Claims:
A bona fide purchaser's claim to the property will typically take precedence over the claims of other parties who may have an interest in the property but who were not bona fide purchasers.
Examples of Bona Fide Purchasers:
A person buys a house from a seller without knowing that the seller's title to the property is defective.
A person purchases a car from a dealership without knowing that the car was stolen.
yeah, that's cool you know how to google.
Yes but gifts are not protected from forfeiture. The original example indicated the person robbing the bank also bought the vehicle and gifted it to their son.
So you got a point against what I just posted?
Like everything else, it was abused....
the second he leaves office all of it will be over turned
we're making english the official language
4d chess move
now they will attack the legitimacy of the english language in muttland for eternity until spanish is equal or has more use than english
They did, and explicitly said it did not apply to them.
You have no point. Someone born to parents not legally in the United States can absolutely have their citizenship revoked, and there is a legal precedent for it.
Mass deportations and tariffs are good, though.
No
A "bona fide gift taker" of stolen goods refers to someone who receives a gift (stolen goods) without knowing it was obtained illegally and without any intention to receive anything in return. In legal terms, a bona fide gift taker is similar to a bona fide purchaser, meaning they act in good faith, without notice of any defects in the title of the property. However, while a bona fide purchaser typically needs to pay for the property, a gift is given without expectation of compensation.
It'll all be overturned in 4 years
This is the way I feel. I'm waiting until whatever happens on the 15th but if either there aren't laws enshrined or heads on pikes and blood in the streets from all these traitors, I'm done
Clearly you mean the nation is more important than a simple stable and in being so must be more secure than the stable. Obviously
I don't think a test is adequate, that just checks knowledge and not emotions, values, loyalty etc
Because the system was abused. Brown people will bend the white mans law and trust is broken.
Ok, apply that to slavs, jews, irish and italians.
Whatever proteccionist argument you make, it goes back to you.
You would sound more sane if you say that America should be white anglo, only. But no, your ancestor’s greed is your today’s political detriment.
Illegal migrants, visa holders and their children are not American. Period.
What are you saying?
Let me ask you, are you jewish? Cause there is an awful lot of pilpul going on in this thread
Why shouldn’t you be a citizen of the country you are born in?
Because you have no claim to it. Citizenship is passed down which is why your parents can bring you home to their country even if you're born in another one.
The cool thing about being a voting American is that I can discriminate. I don't need to have the "moral high ground", my opinion on the matter is the only thing that matters. Yours does not.
Anchor babies.
You’re not addressing the point
Yes, I am of course Jewsih like everyone here.
as you well know, the religion of a poster determines the logic of the post.
What point are you trying to make?
That your nations is built with liberal democratic values that attempts legislations policies for the benefit of “americans”, which it’s a term not ambiguous, because “american” means people born in the nation.
European settlers’ children are americans, natives are americans, jewish ww2 refugees’ children are americans, irish slaves’ children are americans, italian fascist refugees’ children are americans.
If you want to legislate laws against mexicans’ children being americans, then you have to apply to literally everyone in America, including you.
Basically pointing out political hypocrasy.
Why shouldn’t you be a citizen of the country you are born in?
If you discovered cockroaches starting to infest your house, would you consider them legal permanent residents of your house and begin to take care of them and grow their population?
Additionally, ammendments are not open to propagandist interpretations. If you’re modifying the 14th ammendment, then you’re opening doors on modifying other ammendments, like the 1st and the 2nd.
I'm fairly sure he can't do that
If you want to legislate laws against mexicans’ children being americans, then you have to apply to literally everyone in America, including you.
I only want the children of illegal immigrants deported. People who come here legally and have children should have citizenship extended to their children. All the examples you listed came here legally, or before the united states was founded.
If you want to legislate laws against mexicans’ children being americans, then you have to apply to literally everyone in America, including you.
I only want the children of illegal immigrants deported. People who come here legally and have children should have citizenship extended to their children. All the examples you listed came here legally, or before the united states was founded.
The amendments were always able to be modified and changed. nothing new is happening.
If Trump pretends to be such America first why won't he ban dual citizenship then?
Your ancestors were illegal.
Jewish ancestors were illegal.
Irish were illegal.
Italians were illegal.
All of them arribed in American illegally, but America’s made them citizens.
I only want
Nobody cares, laws don’t care what you want. That’s not an argument
*crickets*
He’s right dickless dipshit maga trash.
This will destroy his legacy and MAGA will lose all power.
This is tea party type shit.
You’re warned.
Should Chinese people be able to come over here on vacation to have a child on american soil and their child gets citizenship? No, it's a broken system that gets exploited a lot.
you lost tranny and will continue to lose, democrats have a 20% approval rating
Your ancestors were illegal.
Jewish ancestors were illegal.
Irish were illegal.
Italians were illegal.
That's just factually false. People could just come to the united states to work because the industrial revolution made it easy for people to come over and get jobs in factories. The vast majority of Irish and Italian immigrants who came to the port of entry on Ellis island were legal. You know nothing of US history.
Nobody cares, laws don’t care what you want. That’s not an argument
As a voting American my opinion DOES matter. I voted for Trump, I voted for republican senators and my house rep. This country is mine, and it's a real republic.
Go back to your fucking country, Ahmed, or I am going to skin you alive and wear it as a coat.
The amendments were always able to be modified and changed. nothing new is happening.
That is true. Therefore I said that you are openning doors on changing other ammendments by your opposites, like democrats wishing to change the 2nd ammendment.
See your problem is thinking thus
maga used their power to make their lives better, by removing the power I had to fuck them over
And you think
that's bad
Because like he said you're a narcissistic tranny. The world needs you dead, because you're a cancerous little minority t hat spends all your time trying to undermine society for your benefit.
like democrats wishing to change the 2nd ammendment.
yeah, And as a voter I use my rights to prevent them from doing so. The problem for you is that a lot of Americans think like me, and want the same as me. That's why things are happening the way they are happening.
It's already being heard by the SCOTUS in a few days you subhuman retard, it can't be struck down because the letter of the law by the arguments of the framers of the 14th shows that it only applies to citizens and their children, not foreigners, and the court is majority originalist which means they will uphold it. You lose because you're a fucking nigger and a faggot, now go be a tranny in mexico.
The laws already on the books when the 14th amendment was ratified all specified that you could not become a citizen of the US if you were subject to any foreign power. All foreigners, aliens, diplomats, native americans, and their children were subject to their tribe, country or origin, or the same power their parents were subject to. The only people not covered at the time were african slaves and their descendant, which is the only population the 14th amendment was intended to affect, and everyone involved with the 14th amendment was very clear on this.
Birthright citizenship is a subversive jewish misinterpretation meant only to demographically replace white people.
I lot americans think like me.
Not an argument
As a voter I use my rights to prevent them
Not the point.
My point is that, what is “american”? The law says that anyone who’s born in America.
If Trump changes that, then what is “american”, if it falls into arbitrariness, then being “american” is an illusion.
My point is that, what is “american”? The law says that anyone who’s born in America.
If Trump changes that, then what is “american”, if it falls into arbitrariness, then being “american” is an illusion.
I don't even know, and not the point i'm even arguing. It's legal and possible for President Trump to change to law to prevent birthright citizenship.
My point is that, what is “american”?
Go take a look at what the people who literally created The US and its constitution and original naturalization act considered eligible to be a citizen and you'll find your answer.
Because you’re brown and your way of life is not compatible with ours.
Now you understand how retarded birthright citizenship is. The reason it's retarded is because it was never intended to work the way it does.
You literal minded first order thinking brainlets are a constant source of entertainment.
Illegals are under the jurisdiction of their home country.
This creates not only legal troubles and security risks, but encourages criminal behavior.
It is also directly against the amendment since the makers discussed it in great detail.
You didn't post shit, you copy/pasted something you don't even understand in a desperate brainlet attempt to win an internet argument with a stranger.
You lost, now kill yourself.
the virgin executive order. The Chad Constitutional amendment
AT LEAST PASS A FUCKING LEGISLATION DAMN IT!
Don't pretend to know the values of my country you foreign piece of shit. Mind your own fucking business and stay in your shithole.
This, but also the multi generation burden on the host countries
Bonafide acquisition FOR VALUE
t. Birdman Lawyer
No one owes you an explanation, so I’ll keep it brief: we do NOT want you.
America (and Germany) is White, “native” Americans should consider themselves lucky they’re still around after the shit they pulled.
To be an American is to be White.
America was founded and built by Germanic (mostly Anglo) people.
Same way that to be Chinese, you must be Chinese.
Time to face the wall, Tranny. It's about time. Are you ready? I hope I get to be the one who pulls the trigger, if I'm being honest. Etch this post into your fucking tombstone.
wow another toothless EO that will go nowhere just like all the others. no need to actually get legislation passed.
The state should take the children and kick out the parents, then raise the kids to be loyal citizens and ICE agents.
Absolute retard take, URSS even attempted that and it ended up with a bunch of drug addicts and whores because to everyone surprise a bureaucrat is quite shitty at parenting
I smarter than you mutt
I smarter
You sure are buddy
A piece a paper made by anglocucks that can be changed (arbitrariness) don’t matter to me.
If you don’t see the dumbness of the foundation of your nation, then you should not be taken seriously.
I just don't want you here is all.
should be both and it should be genealogical checked!
that's insane, if every country required both then every mxed marriage would have stateless children.
I don’t know
Then I’m not going to answer your low IQ zogged mind
Birthright citizenship isn't why I'm getting fucked on taxes and my kid's school sucks ass
A mere typo means that you’re not smart
Whatever makes you feel better buddy
My ancestors created the United States. They and their government said non-whites couldn't be citizens. Birthright citizenship is bad because it allows illegal invaders to plop out disgusting children invaders who get to vote.
Huge problem with Chinese sneaking pregnant women in here and then shitting out a little ricecel, then immediately leaving for the motherland, gifting their microdick kid a US citizenship when he turns 18.
Trump did the right thing.
muh constitution just paper lmao arbitrary
If this is your attitude, then don't be surprised when the people who's ancestors founded the US for them consider your life arbitrary (and valueless)
Muh Russia invades. Millions of pregnant Russian women travel to the occupied area and give birth.
Should those kids be US citizens?
why should an imaginary line of demarcation determine citizenship? why not just make everyone on planet earth a german citizen? why are you stupid?
because it is abused to a comical level.
we are all one race, the human race. we are all one nation, the human nation. everyone is equaaaaaallll :)
Key Elements of a Bona Fide Purchaser:
Good Faith: The purchaser must act honestly and without any intention to deceive or take advantage of the seller or other parties.
DING! End of discussion. The qualities of US Citizenship are understood by the entering illegal, who has intentionally avoided the proper entry points by coming in through or over the fence. This proves they know there's distinction they are failing, they are not in Good Faith.
The Anchor Baby Mother (ABM) knows there are distinctions, and is aiming for the benefits of that distinction to remain in the US by abusing the ignorance of the Child and the Err of a Reading. The child will be raised as thought it is part of the US Nation, but its parentage will never be able to complete the duties of the US Nation, in fact teaching the Child to be Enemy of the State, by Defacto Emulation, a core necessity of infants and minors generally. ABM knows there are differences in Nations, knows that the Nation will "give more earthly Goods, and thus abuses Trust in Human Goodness and in the Child.
A child raised in an ABM household will necessarily hold distrust for lawful government, and be forced into Aiding and Abetting a Felon, from the outset of their consciousness. That is not Good Faith.
The baby has no bad faith.
the 14th amendment does not mention parents, it looks at the baby only
Once the courts fail im down to kill you too, it would be a a duty at that point.
babies don't have agency to either birth themselves or declare themselves citizens thereby automatically granting a parent guardianship and rights to make such assertions
The baby has no bad faith.
Right, but the US already determined you can be on US Soil and NOT be under Full US Jurisdiction. In fact, defacto, if you were Always under US Jurisidiction, you couldn't even commit a crime.
Since she's in the act of crime, Bad Faith, and is doing so Hostile not only to an Individual (which would be enough) but indeed is doing the crime to everyone AND her unborn, her Status as Under Jurisdiction is clearly absurd. None of the other people involved would have made this decision for her, ipso they have no Jurisdiction at that moment.
Jurisdiction is Lost and Restored in Order to Peace, or that's how I read it.
Native Indians were not Full Citizens of the US, despite being born in Nations that were capable of being defined and controlled by the US Government, because in their territories they were Subject to Other Laws. As a Pirate, ABM has No Rights and does not act under US Jurisdiction, as a Foreign Citizen in a Crime on US Soil, she is Subject to her Home Nation's Laws and treaties, and in both that claim and her crime, is not Fully Subject to US Jurisdiction.
And yet the 14th amendment only refers to the baby, not the parents: “ All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
The SCOTUS decided that a Chinese individual born in the US is a US citizen even if both parents were in the US without being Us citizens and were not legally in the Us
other way around, the chink railworkers were here legally. that is why trumps side is using wong kim ark to argue to their advantage, and the opposition is using the "lets imagine trump is right, so what?" defense
nice try though
14th amendment does not mention parents,
And you're wrong here too.
All persons born ...and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, ...
If it was automatic jurisdiction, this couldn't exist, or would be redundant.
neither are whites
Are you trying to say tourists are like native Indians living in tourist colonies in the US called “resorts” where American lawmen cannot enter and US law does not apply and this is why Westworld (tv show) was in the Us?
babies not havent the mental agency to declare for themselves a single thing, the amendment is thus invalidated upon a simple request from the baby itself; Do you declare yourself a citizen of the United States of America, baby? "gaga goooo"
Case closed. No one is granted automatic citizenship unless birthed by a citizen or immigrant married to a citizen, within the US boundaries.
SCOTUS ruling was clearly and obviously wrong and jew'd up the asshole and should immediately be re-evaluated for logical deduction upon the capacity of an infant to fucking claim citizenship sans at least 1 American citizen parent.
no legislation has been passed that grants anchor babies us citizenship, yet here we are
Based. Jews are SEETHING at this so it must be a good thing
Why? Indians living in Indian places in 1868 in the US were not subject to the jurisdiction of the Us, they had their own courts. same for diplomats’ kids or foreign naval warships in US rivers or nuclear submarines birthing Soviet babies in 1957 in the fjords of Alaska.
The Law of Nations defines the basic Duties and Rights of travelers on foriegn lands, most central is obeying the laws and order of the place you are guest.
Pretty sure when you snuck into the US in the back of a fruit-palate truck, you were aware you were not obeying.
Why even bother defending this?
if two foreigners have a baby on a US military base it is not a us citizen
Correct, two people breaking US immigration laws are not awarded or rewarded for sneaking within the US borders an immigrant baby, undoubtedly conceived outside US borders. FIN
dividing the country with every single decision.
Correct, we're dividing the illegals and sending them right back.
What makes you think there won't be 10 other dudes that won't hesitate to dome your liberal ass?
Common sense ain’t common with leftytards, as they want a one world government, it’s why the screech so much when White Nations put their own before others.
You don't heal from gangrene by leaving it on you. It kills you. You must severe the rotting flesh in order to heal.
Military bases overseas are not considered "U.S. soil" for citizenship purposes.
(((some))) claim that mouse is horse if it was born in stable tho. mouse wants a free stable and free food for rest of its life
How do you define citizenship purposes? Those bases are on land defined as American soil.
More Soundly, as a subject to another nation's laws and treaties, having avoided naturalization you're not Full Jurisdiction of the US. And if you decide Stateless, you've decided effectively Piracy.
Of course one can argue Probable Cause, but Mexico has not been at war in your life-time. And even if you did end up on US shores as a foreign national in a pinch, a sane and carrying parent would want the child to be a member of the nation it's going to match in your rearing and order. Temporary emergency bending codes wouldn't rule out human reason.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside
Case closed
The left always creates these insane premises to justify immigration and most right wingers fall for it and argue on your terms. We don’t need analogies, we don’t need to argue any longer, I don’t want brown people in my country because I don’t like them, and the majority of westerners agree despite zog forcing them on us. This will swing around within the century and the traitors that pushed these positions that brought western society to its knees will be executed or sent to prison camps god willing. Mingling was a mistake and it’s time everyone goes back to where they come from before the entire planet is glassed due to brown third worlders being in control of the American nuclear arsenal.
in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof
implies there is a condition of born that isn't Subject to jurisdiction. You cannot lose your argument and claim you won. But you're right, case closed, they are Not US Citizens.
It'll be amended while Trump temporarily stops the loophole being exploited.
I don’t want brown people in my country
Change the law then
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The 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act, also known as the Hart-Celler Act, significantly altered US immigration policy. It replaced the discriminatory national origins quota system with a preference system that prioritized family reunification and skills. This act abolished quotas based on country of origin, leading to a substantial increase in immigration from non-European countries.
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Or just read it properly
White ethnostate.
with a black population three times the size of whites
No but it's even worse because they don't reject the gibs the identity comes with.
So you're arguing that minority racial protections do not apply to a particular race beyond a certain boundary. You agree, then, there are principles of humanity which don't necessarily get covered in national codes, but ought not be violated.
In this case, the inclusion of the irrational gifting of nationality which is impossible to produce by Criminal Entry.
condition of born that isn't Subject to jurisdiction
Yes, the SCOTUS in Won Kim Ark and other cases defined those. Also Congress in 1868 in debates discussed the exceptions where there is no jurisdiction.
these are:
- foreign diplomats and foreign consuls’ kids (so no jurisdiction)
- kids born to foreign soldiers while occupying US soil (so no jurisdiction)
- kids born in foreign warships which are in American waters (so no jurisdiction)
- native Indians in areas where American judges, lawmen and military cannot enter due to treaties/war (so no jurisdiction)
Pretty sure you can arrest and prosecute an illegal mother immigrant (so jurisdiction).
you can arrest and prosecute an illegal mother immigrant
I can arrest and prosecute a foreign King if I effort. Does that mean Jurisdiction?
kids born to foreign soldiers while occupying US soil
good thing they're designated as an invasion force now
We’ll get there. Or we don’t and it all ends. Hope you guys get it together too, Hans. We’re all brothers, even if you’re a faggot leftist it’s because you were brainwashed by zog.
You can't compare the shitshow in europe to us. Our illegal immigrants did not bring out society to its knees. They are at least christian in the first place and want to work. Providing shit like food and phone is what prevents the chaos you see in Europe.
If your parents are not citizens or permanent residents of the country you are born in, then neither should you be
probably a jew anon, even a fucktard leftist can be reasoned with to a degree; a jew wants total destruction of immigration control so they can flood the west with people that want to destroy us and make us their 3rd world hellscape
Why do I have to dial 1 for English?
the SCOTUS in Won Kim Ark and other cases defined those
BTW, that's not correct. SCOTUS cannot write Code, we do not have unelected Rulers.
in areas where American judges, lawmen and military cannot enter due to war...
See, you've so far removed Reason of Individual Person from discussions, you lean on the idea that Teamwork and/or Raw Force Threat in the moment, makes Legitimacy of Behavior. As such, you argue uncosntructable points that say
you are under Jursidiction when you robbed the bank
Implying that in the deeds of the Courts, you were supposed to Rob A Bank, so that the Court could then prosecute you for doing what it ordered.
This form of Judaic Predeterminism is unfit for US Codes, and completely irrational to Human to Human judgements.
When you Reason to remove yourself from the protections of a nation, so that you can use that nation's laws to your House's Benefits, you do not gain the condition of Under Jurisdiction during that deed. At no point did the US tell other nations that our extradition laws were built to encourage pregnant mothers to break in so their non-national and criminally educated offspring could claim the fruits of our collective.
There's a level at which Wish For More Humanity in Choices must also be applied to the deeds of the Criminal Mother and Father.
Too many people took advantage of a good thing. It was destroyed by brown people the way every other good thing white people have is destroyed.
a german couple on the 9th month of pregnancy travels to vietnam and has a kid there.
is that baby vietnamese? are you going to say "oh what a nice vietnamese baby"?
no, its still a german kid.
Too many people took advantage of a good thing
yes.
Because of the latinos, but you know this.
Also only Canada the USA and other 3rd world countries give citizenship by birth.
2028 birthright restored and retroactive citizenship granted
Nothing personal goy
illegal and impossible
You missed the point, the point is not to have a relationship with the stable but to be a horse. The horses just happen to live in the stable.
Illegal to ignore due process and court orders yet here we are. Republicans will reap what they sow
due process wasn't ignored and alien enemies act ensured he was rightly deported. under the act's rules he does not require to be given a court hearing in the us.
retroactive "approvals" of citizenship granted to people who broke the law to get here will not be tolerated. get used to the idea.
Why shouldn’t you be a citizen of the country you are born in?
Because it rewards illegal entry.
I agree. Trudeau was also justified in declaring the emergency act during the trucker convoy. Who are we at war with again???
Ius sanguinis, you should know what that means
That's called an african moving to another afrincan country, or an european to another european country but not a sskimo moving to argentina
Anchor babies was always literally the the choice of the Supreme Court. The more honest interpretation doesn’t allow it but that doesn’t matter, the SCOTUS has opposite rulings covering any position and the Justice at the moment simply chooses which one to use in the current case. They don’t like to make wholly new rulings because that will come under a lot of scrutiny but they will if they have to. Basically, they serve whatever the majority interest of the power structure is. Immigrants are a core base for the Democrats which is the ruling power bloc in society so their default will be to rule to protect greater immigration. So anchor babies stay, there’s not even a remote chance that the courts won’t protect them.
Don’t like it? Hit the streets. Form a MAGA red hat guard and be Trump’s long arm of real power. That’s your ONLY chance at changing the country.
How does one even be a citizen if being born here don't count?
By being born from parents of such country
which makes you what?
A living tragedy since you are a "citizen of the world"
Why aren't tourists and ambassadors kids given citizenship
Ius sanguinis sounds cooler
Allowing immigrants was already a crime against your people, immigration is ALWAYS miserable since the only ones that benefit from it are the corrupt elites that use the cheap slave labor to destroy the job market and removes social pressure from the country that is sending that immigration, while the people either moving or now having to live with the immigrants suffer
It's an American thing. Basically all of the Americas are like this. Why? Don't know.
it is abused
We are not going to argue about this turk roach nigger. Fuck off back to Turkey
For some reason the media is obsessed with misrepresenting this one.
They're not ending birthright citizenship, that's an innate right of any legal citizen.
They're ending birthright citizenship for illegals which was a recent provision to begin with.
Why should someone get knocked up and pop the border just long enough to pop out a couple americans? Most countries in the world have ended birthright citizenship for illegals and it wasn't a problem but somehow it's a problem when and ONLY when USA Does it.
I don't even like the deranged cunt or his policies but this is in no way controversial or unusual.
be subhuman browngoloid that will never contribute to american society
cross illegally into usa
have child
now child is citizen and a dead weight on american society
its just not a good thing for us
cry about it
Just start imprisoning judges.
It was a system put in place during the cold war to help make defections more legally sound. Its and old system that has outlived its usefulness and is now being exploited by a political party who believes demographic replacement is more efficient then trying to actually form coherent policy.
Unless you are native american then you shouldnt have american citizenship by this logic?
youre all immigrants
14th amendment
put in place during the cold war
captcha: DS0WN
becuase "citizenship through service" is what they are paving the way for.
Two words: anchor babies
specifically lower court jewish judges that defy executive orders
But it appeals to feelings. That's all the republicans have, feelings-based policy.
Trump does something good
cuckservatives fight against him
Why in the fuck do these retards do everything in their power to just fucking lose?
2 of my kids were born in Germany and aren't German citizens so you tell me Timo.
In actually
House a is mouse utopia built buy superior mice
House b is a corrupt shithole filled with poverty and all the mice are inbred
Mouse b sneaks into house a and shits out its inbred crotch goblin
Should inbred mouse b considered a citizen of house a because its parents illegally squated here just for it to be born and have all access to the superior mouse technology and prosperity
Why does Trump keep trying to challenge or outright defy the Constitution? Is he trying to make Republicans lose their majority? Is he senile? Are his advisors retarded?
Because then your parents can dump you off right as they shit you out into a better country to give your a better life away from the shithole they are fleeing from.
no I state the fact that the founding fathers flooded the us with a low iq work force, deliberately. as their first move.
maybe working things out with the french and brits to bring in their workers and do trade with them would have been smarter
spain
most immigrant friendly and most islamist country in europe
has opinion
Illegals are under the jurisdiction of their home country.
No.... Just being on USA soil is the legal definition of under jurisdiction. That's why anyone but diplomats have full constitutional rights when in the USA. How do people not know this?
So between the wording of the 14th and case precedent there isn't real wiggle room on this issue.
There are also ways to change the constitution and you can't do it with just an end run from an executive order. Trump's team knows this and is just looking to feed the base meat for the headlines. It's why he is crutch'ing up so hard on claims of an invasion. Even when clearly that isn't going on.
most islamist
That's either France, you, UK or Belgium, and because we have so many immigrants is also why I have a judgment not an opinion
no legislation has been passed that grants
The 14th amendment is/was legislation. It's worded and backed by case precedence to preform as we are currently seeing. The issue is modern day USA citizenship is so valuable that the 14th should be reworked to at least one parent is a citizen..
Yet as I said, you can't do that with just an executive order going nah.... 30 days from this order the 14th (and it's case law) doesn't apply anymore. Like even if you're a die hard all shitskins go home sort of person the idea of the president being able to just wipe out constitutional rights or issue with a single memo is pretty BS.. '
what next? A president a few years from now just saying nah, 30 day from now now no more access to guns. Hey 30 days from now, no more free speech. Ya can't just allow an amendments to get trampled like that..
3M muslims in a 45M country vs 2M(including 1M illegals) in a 83M country. I win
Constitutional rights do not belong to foreigners. Simple as. A baby born from a foreigner was conceived in foreign lands and is a foreigner still because it did not go through a naturalization process like every other immigrant does, making it wholly unfair to the hard working immigrant that does everything legal to live here.
This cunt will ruin us.
The man has a jewish family and sucks kike dick and you expected different????
People will travel to the US, give birth, and then return home. That child will be a US citizen despite not having American parents nor growing up in America, that is somewhat retarded
ending birthright citizenship for illegals which was a recent provision
Why should someone get knocked up and pop the border just
Ok, the 14th isn't some new provision and neither is the case law about this issue. Also why would someone with a civil charge against them, as in having the wrong paper work, suddenly strip them of their constitutional rights?
How is that ok on any level? So if I was getting sued for copyright issues etc for downloading MP3s that strips my rights about the 5th now? Ya know, being copyright is a civil issue too.. Like I get there is a certain way people want the law to be. Yet that's not how the law or the constitution is right now. There are legal ways to change both but it's not by way of random executive order.
it's really strange to see people supporting these sort of end runs being at this moment it happens to line up with their own personal views. Being next time it might not..
Constitutional rights do not belong to foreigners. Simple as
except that's not even remotely correct, at all. The only exception is what we view as a diplomat. Anyone else in the USA has full rights. Just by being on soil.. I don't even understand how people don't know this by now.
Do they just not have history etc in school anymore? Maybe these are college level issues and most here are just highschool educated? Where at most your civics lessons are ok there are three branches of government.
Checked
FPBP...
read
then go back to school and suck your jewish "professors" cock harder
first president since 1996 that refuses to take america to war in the middle east on Netanyahu's orders
pushing to end war in ukraine
people are seething
Unreal.
Floor debate texts are not part of the US CODE.
That's technically true, but the Constitution isn't Code either.
And the intent of the people who passed the text is legitimate to follow, of course.
We're talking law here not biology.
As Ben Johnson said "The Law is an ass".
You live with it.
White nationalists are so fucking dumb , a horse born in a stable is a captive animal a beast of burden. You dumb cunts think that horses are supposed to born in a stable not the wild.
I am actually thankfully for your stupidity because it translates to incompetence which is why the Trump government is making such a cunt of things and only know rhetoric but could not organize a piss up in a brewery.
You fuckers actually idolize Hitler who literally killed a couple of dozen of black people but was responsible for killing millions of your white «brothers «
When Issac Newton was writing the laws of motion, it was your dumb ancestors who were dumping accused Witches in lakes and ponds and claiming they were innocent when they drowned,
You are the dumbest humans on the planet and an embarrassment to the so called white race.
The intent almost certainly never anticipated 5 billion seething brown people doing anything to get into our nation.
Sure, let Germany adopt that if it's so great.
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No, the U.S. Constitution is not included in the U.S. Code. The U.S. Code primarily contains federal statutory law, or laws enacted by Congress. The Constitution is a separate, foundational document that establishes the framework of the federal government and its powers. While the Constitution is included in the Statutes at Large and other legal compilations, it is not part of the U.S. Code itself.
Floor debates are inconsequential and of course are antonym to the text of an enacted law, which they were opposed to.
Nigel STFU. Your country had an empire and everyone born in that empire was considered a British citizen and the coffers of your country were filled with riches. You don’t have the fucking right to lecture anyone on birthright citizenship, your time is better spent sucking pali cock.
People need to fix their own lives/their own nations instead of sneaking into the USA for a "better life". They need to stop mooching.
Fpbp
Its bad because it helps the great replacement
I think the left just fails to accept that the anchor baby problem is a real problem and refuses to even come up to a halfway point on the issue. Like it's fine in theory but it gets abused. Kids shouldn't be used as a loophole to let parents get away with bullshit.
IMHO you could solve the problem really well by just establishing that children born here to illegals are guaranteed a path to citizenship at a certain age like at 18. That kinda at least keeps the spirit alive but doesn't give the parents a free ticket to stay.
Foreigners aren't subject to the Juridiction of the US. They do not get Due process in the same ways and naturalized citizenship does not apply to them. This was settled clearly in consideration of native Americans. It came up again in WW2 when considering Japanese immigrants and Mexicans as they were nationalists and allies of Hitler. Their children born here of literally Asians and Mexicans were not automatically citizens because their parents weren't. This was true and without question until the mid 60's and no law superseded it.
The reason we even had a Japanese internment camp was because we didn't owe foreign non citizens due process or any guaranteed rights or their kids.We threw Japanese kids in Jail too. The issue became less clear considering Chinese who usually were granted citizenship. But in the case of being born from natives, no they aren't automatically citizens and never have been. This is a rewrite of our laws told by liars who are trying to marginalize us in our own homeland. Naturalized citizenship is only for citizens and the other amendments only updated the race. Nothing ever expanded it to just be anybody traveling here that popped out a kid.
For example, Chinese students legally here for a student's visa, or H1B, they don't automatically have their child considered a citizen at birth. Why the fuck would an illegal have more rights?
I can do you one better
if the fixation index between a polar bear and a brown bear is 0.1, and if those two species can conceive a fertile offspring even though they have morphological differences like jaw and teeth, like the pelvis skull structure, like fur color like the brain chemistry,
How come these are considered two distinct SPECIES
but the white and black humans that have a fixation index of 0.15, can conceive a fertile offspring even though they have morphological differences, like skull shape, pelvis structure, nose and lips shape, brain chemistry, skin color, bone density and so on
Are considered the SAME SPECIE.
Why is that? Answer me RIGHT NOW!
Judges and lawmakers in the 60's are seen here literally throwing it around as an example, that Chinese immigrants traveling to CA and having a kid are obviously not in any way qualifying for citizenship.
This is the law of the land. Everything you think you know about US law was lies from Jews in the media.
us
Who the fuck is "us"...?
I have never felt so isolated and my soul torn apart than "living" in liberal's immature fag world. You are the scum of the Earth, you are going to be made to understand how evil you are, on way or another you will be brought to your knees and repent.
Fly to country
have kid
kid now citizen
fly home
Yeah that makes sense.
Floor debates are inconsequential
No, they are not when the question is Clarity. And there is an explicit section of
under the jurisdiction of
which lacks clarity.
The term when the text was written included the idea that US Indians, while in US territory under US Jurisdictional choices, were Not Completely under Jursidiction because they were of a different Nation with distinct laws. The authors used the term to imply that there was a place for a difference between being On US Soil, and being able to claim US Citizenship.
That place does not include Invading Forces, Pirates, and Subjects of Other Nations where there is Treaty.
And again, if a bank robber is under US Jurisdiction, then it was Ordered that he rob the bank, so that the Court might have a trial against his robbery, invalidating Justice as part of Juris.
Jesus' parents did that.
Making sure he is born in Bethlehem so he could in the future be a legitimate Messiah is the central point of the New Testament.
So are Mary and Joseph now evil? For being citizenship scamming Jews?
All of our so called allies pushing that anchor nonsense have WAY more restrictions on foreigners having not only property but be able to get a license an other things- Japan for example even if you are born in the country and was raised there if you are not Japanese they will not consider you Japanese. Wheres the outrageous nonsense?
Bethlehem wasn't accidental to Jesus's family, it was the home estate of his Family's Patriarch, Joseph. Thus he was in his own Nation's lands. And we are not debating Roman or Hebrew Law, thanks.
Joseph was born in Bethlehem you retard, he went home to have "his" son in his ancestral home
Jesus and his family were literally escaping death from Herod you weird person Herod said to kill EVERY male baby in the region he controlled
No, that came afterwards. They were in that area for Census as ordered by Rome.
This right here is how you are all reminded the christoidism has just been perverted into a piece of shit slave doctrine, used only to batter troublesome proles into submission. To reiterate, a profound evil. Exploiting the good nature of others to betray their own express will, as there is no other conceivable way for these people to "fight good" except to pervert and corrupt the good natured into accepting it as their own.
There are no mortal words to even describe this anymore.
14th adjusted race it did nothing about jurisdiction or all Natives and travel Visas would automatically get citizenship. Do you have half a brain? Can you consider for a moment how fucked up it would be to make a Chinese woman who is in the US on vacation and intending to go back to China, to MAKE her child a US citizen when they didn't even want it? In your world view do all the Chinese citizens born in the USA during travel or education or short term work visas, but spend most of their lives working and living in China, do you expect them to be paying taxes? Since all US citizens owe taxes no matter where they live or work. There would be like 100000 tax dodging felons around the world that we should arrest the second they set foot in the US if they ever come back.
It's downright idiotic to think that just popping a kid out in the USA is automatically citizenship. It doesn't work that way for good upstanding people that do follow the law, you're really a fool if you think it counts for illegals that break the law to be here.
The parents aren't legal residents, they didn't say an oath to the US, they aren't in good standing, and they aren't under US jurisdiction. That is why illegals are sent back to other countries for prison time and we don't lock them up here. The US cannot imprison foreigners for every crime, it has to follow tons of complex treaties. This is 4 qualities that illegals fail to meet for their children to be naturalized citizens that have NOTHING to do with race.
That is the law, and if we want to just ignore it then we're better off having a civil war right now before we're anymore outnumbered.
Start with False Royalty claim, and keep it in mind every time you hear someone jewish talking shit about anyone.
Sorry escaped me I am typing on multiple threads thanks
Mary and Joseph were forced to travel to Bethlehem for a census you retard.
then go back to school and suck your jewish "professors" cock harder
Do I smell disalegiance and nefarious intent?
It's downright idiotic to think that just popping a kid out in the USA is automatically citizenship. It doesn't work that way for good upstanding people that do follow the law, you're really a fool if you think it counts for illegals that break the law to be here.
Bout all you ever need to say.
Those acting in Order to Treaty and Agreement don't get such a claim for their offspring.
Floor debate texts are not part of the US CODE.
Code means secret, and the 14th Amendment demands allegiance, one is law the other is a secret
Because I’d rather live among my own ethnicity, if I wanted to live in Guatemala or Mexico I’d move there, simple as
according to u.s. cable television foreign billionaire dual citizenchip subpeona code 5.975-ab98 section F paragraph #94
yes, you now own a ferrari
Everything I read about him now just reminds me of how fucking excellent he is. He isn't just based, he's expanding on what based even is. My country is actually a better place already just because Trump is running America. Please God let him legally become President again for a 3rd term if this is the type of global deep cleaning that we get.
It's why naturilzation-sp? tests are beautiful, IMO. <(^-^<) you came the legal way an make a promise to defend the country should the need arise
who is that supposed to be? Stalin the guy that killed 30 million or someone else?
Only towards Israel.
more than likely its fake and the next president could import 30 million more angry eskimos that want your head chopped off and used for a their native soup recipe
Dunno yet it's still over 1300 days to go but lets bee real here the DNC is boned. Elon found their honeypot the USAids and actblue, their leadership is pushing 80s and they have no bench no prospects no farm system.
Or by native instinct, adherence to family and earth which your skin is accustomed, it is expected you would do so instinctive.
then go back to school and
howard didn't write the 14th you moron, he mostly just champion and introduced it. Also any of these random blips about what he said are both misunderstood by current readers like you with a very limited education, while also being 100% worthless. He isn't even listing a bunch of different people but talking about one type of person, the diplomat.
and what matters in the end is the wording of the 14th and how the case law has been laid down as precedence. It's no different than any other piece of legislation might have a certain points by the people who support it but as it moves past the system there are compromises. You have to be a clueless retard to not grasp this about how our system works.
lives working and living in China, do you expect them to be paying taxes? Since all US citizens owe taxes no matter where they live or work. There would be like 100000 tax dodging felons
You dumb fuck, there are tax treaties to avoid double taxation. We have had one with China since 1987 but of course when you're trying to just make shit up in your head to void constitutional issues, you don't know that..
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it's is absolutely comical to see the bulk of Anon Babble with zero college or understanding of legal anything try to bat around all these legal issues in play. When 90% of the shit people even bring up don't mater on any level. Oh someone said this in a new paper. Doesn't mater. Illegals don't have constitutional rights! No, they do. Hey check out my interpretation of these wording, says the ditch digger in North Dakota, that ignores all other rulings that say other wise.
None of you even seem to get the SCOTUS isn't even ruling directly on BRC but if the holds on his order should be lifted. As in wait for a true case to hit before ruling or they could of course just go ok BRC is settled so just leave the holds being this is pointless.
You dumb fuck, that means Chinese citizens don't have to pay Chinese taxes while they live in the US. You didn't even read your source. US citizens have to pay US taxes no matter what. This wasn't even hard to look up either and there's no controversy or disagreement on it. You're just a fucking idiot.
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howard didn't write the 14th you moron, he mostly just champion and introduced it.
Doesn't really matter, what matters is that his answers seem to have been calming of the queries, accepted as cause. Meaning they well represent the views of those voting on the text at the time, and thus expose the intents behind the words where there is something less than clear.
It is less than clear what it means to be in jurisdiction, and thus it is worth examining what the words meant to its authors.
If you disagree, I will poke your mother in the ear till she spits money out of her mouth, and if you think that's not nice enough, I will beat your father with a shovel and bury him in the backyard, by which of course I mean to say I will fix your mother dinner and wash your father's car, because what I mean when I say words is meaningful only to the last thing I said about the words I spoke.
The US does not create taxable persons against their will. Indians, travelers, ambassadors, and more don't get citizenship by default and those are all people in good standing. If 2 Chinese people become US Person's they literally have to request that their child become a citizen and there's a whole process that requires oaths.
Even if illegals wanted it, it doesn't qualify for them, and they didn't ask or go through any correct process. Illegals pumping out a kids not even at a hospital and totally off record does not count, and it never counted. It doesn't even count for due process.
they didn't go there. It's a fantasy to confirm his birthplace retroactively otherwise he would not fit the messiah narrative he has been peddling. that is why he was rejected by all Jews except the twelve retards. later followers were irreligious or heathen slaves and social outcasts.
time to go home anon
Why are you debating the Mitzvah?
It's a simple enough problem for this era. Which of you can trace to Jacob yourselves for these Mitzvah to matter?
jurisdiction of
basically who comes to arrest you if you commit a crime
my first thought was if he as going to autodeport himself
I wouldn't care if he went back or not.
You hicks can be mean, but eventually don't matter.