Yegor Timurovich Gaidar is known as the architect behind the "Shock Therapy" that rapidly transformed the planned economy to a market ecomony after the dissolution of the USSR.
Discuss the "Shock Therapy". Was it necessary, or would a slower, more gradual transformation have prevented much of the 90's turmoil in Russia?
If you want, you can also discuss why a communist planned economy is more efficient and ultimately superior to a capitalist market economy.
In that time we have no experience and specialists in capitalists economy.
Bill Clinton and merica in general supported Yeltsins artillery fire at the White House and Yegor Gaidar's Shock Therapy.
Hard to imagine much clearer evidence that things were going against Russian interests.
And yet Gaidar still seems to be praised by Russian politicians. Is this praise merely formal, or is it sincere?
Folks don't like him because the transformation was too fast. Whoever has money in their bank account to buy a car, in a week can buy only 1 sausage for that money.
"Shock therapy" is a red herring. USSR was a kleptocracy before, during and after reforms.
a slower, more gradual transformation
This argument falls apart once you ask:
Who was supposed to oversee this slower transformation?
Does anyone have an answer? Other than:
The same people who stole everything under a quick transformation
QRD on him? was he a jew?
giga IQ
mother of his father was, so half jewish
Hey Naomi, your books are drivel.
He's a kike. That's all you need to know.
Shock therapy is an extremely ugly part of psychiatry that is even worse than the meds they give today (assuming a short term and low range of dosage meds).
Shock therapy simply fries the brain, it destroys memories. It's like a EMP for the brain.
Possibly when that term was used for the economy shock therapy was still a thing, but like a lot of what is considered mainstream medicine today, in the future it'll be downright vulgar and obscene to throw the term around like that.
Eh, it could have worked well enough if there was someone competent enough to utilize the profits gained from natural resouces to actually develop the country.
But a cleptocracy does what it does the best.
Pidors always blame others.
Resources are nationalised in Norway,Chile and all the arab states.
you can also discuss why a communist planned economy is more efficient and ultimately superior to a capitalist market economy.
I was about to describe how a similar Shock Therapy worked in Poland but now you go fuck yourself, commie scum
The dissolution of the Soviet Union um was a coup pushed by capitalist revisionist forces against the weakened entrenched bureaucracy of the late Brezhnev administration.
You mean when Jewish oligarchs and mafia did a corporate takeover, because statism vs. private business/organized crime is a zero sum game?
Shock Therapies never work. China is the only country that made market reforms work and they did it gradually
There is ZERO benefit to shock therapy
With gradual liberalization you can milk foreign investment to the max because every time you liberalize, more foreign investors come
Putin called him a "true patriot". Disgusting
This is how they do, emesis this voucher and who have some kopecks and vision of the future buy this (or change on vodka kek).
This is analogous to stock market papers, but this paper for everything (factories, resources, etc)
Exchange happens (first rich people have buyed up these papers) when people think about how to get money for food.
Gradual liberalization just creates oligarchies while everyone else lives in shit like pidors and ukros
Shock Therapy and radical reforms got us into the EU and NATO
compare standards of living 35 years after the reforms
Gradual liberalization just creates oligarchies while everyone else lives in shit like pidors and ukros
LOL, fucking retard. Every market liberalization creates oligarchies, shock therapy especially so. That doesn't matter. What matters is economic growth and output. If you want to play capitalism that is
and you get economic growth and output when you reform the system radically instead of letting the old shit fester
No, you don't. And stop talking shit, Poland has the most state enterprises in EU. You DID NOT have a shock therapy
Poland has the most state enterprises in EU
And we are close second ;)
you're Serbian
No, I am Slovenian
Why did you post a book that literally argues USSR was wrecked by Gorbachev?
Literally the untermensch face...
People really hate this guy here.
Is he even known? Usually Yeltsin is the one taking the blame
Looks like a jew so I assume jew destroyed russia for jewish benefit (look at all the oligarch jew billionaires they have now).
Putin got rid of them
Of course. His face well known by everybody.
No, Putin literally got rid of the Russian Nationalists who wanted to get rid of the Jew oligarchs.
He removed like one guy.
I can't believe it but you are right. The transformation in Poland was much slower than in RF + RF has natural resources while Poland does not
Schizo?
He is a jew. Along with other jews they robbed the country and created the jewish oligarch class. Installed Putin down the road to protect the results
Geneva Flag
Get back to work on that trade and peace deal J.D
Also, 100% it was a CIA plan to allow massive spoils to those willing to partition the USSR. The very absence of details on the “collapse” of the Soviet Union, when numerous top secret weapons programs from them are available to the public, substantiates this theory.
He’s not Jewish, he’s ethnic Russian.
the Russian nationalists in question
Only RosNeft' (oil company), which one belonged to Hodorkovsky.
Putin got rid of the worst elements of Yeltsin but he still refuses to outright go against him despite his ratings being like 1% of approval
Shut up jew. All entire “shock therapy” is a jewish enterprise to transfer all the wealth to jews
Also Berezovsky.
More like Alexander Lebed
Not even kidding, I didn't cherry pick these images. I literally took all of these images from a "far right" anti Putin video, in the order that they were presented. Check for yourself
odysee.com
Literally all of these people are subhuman. There is no way that these are the real nationalists. And this is an anti-Putin video, so they obviously try to paint a narrative here. Imagine how ugly they actually look
Don't fall from chair.
Yegor Timurovich Gaidar
the son of Ariadna Bazhova and Pravda military correspondent Timur Gaidar
Timur Gaidar was born in Arkhangelsk, the son of well-known children's writer Arkady Gaidar and screenwriter Lia Solomyanskaya
Лия Лaзapeвнa Coлoмянcкaя (пo дoкyмeнтaм — Paхиль Лaзapeвнa Coлoмянcкaя, тaкжe cpeди близких — Pyвa и Paля[1]; 5 мaя 1907, Mинcк — 1986, Mocквa)
Poдилacь в Mинcкe в eвpeйcкoй ceмьe: oтeц — инжeнep, бyндиcт, a пocлe peвoлюции — бoльшeвик Лaзapь Гpигopьeвич (Лeйзep Гиpшeвич) Coлoмянcкий (1879—1945)[2][3][4], мaть — Лия Иocифoвнa Coлoмянcкaя (1886—1941)[5]. К 1911 гoдy ceмья жилa в Cтoлбцaх. B 1920-e гoды Лaзapь Coлoмянcкий был члeнoм Пepмcкoгo гyбepнcкoгo кoмитeтa PКП(б) и coвeтa пepмcкoй кooпepaтивнoй биpжи, в 1925 гoдy — пpeдceдaтeлeм Пepмcкoгo биpжeвoгo кoмитeтa[6].
What % of jew is that? 25%, 12%? Either way it is not enough to qualify, at least for me. Because if you would put it that strict, then all well known Russians would be jews lol.
It led to seven bankers owning 50% of the Russian economy. Now guess how many of those bankers were Jewish.
And who would the real nationalists? Who love Putin, jews and ethnic replacement, you jew tool?
Given how many Jews were in Russia in the past you could probably argue like 80% of people living in western cities are Jews.
*going by that logic
I don't know who the real nationalists are. But I know who aren't the real nationalists and those hooligans sure aren't
Who cares what jew shill like you thinks?go288
pretty much. 90% of Russian government and duma would be jewish if you went far enough
Taras, your bot broke
Only the worst ones.
Who is taras you fucking clown? You are in every there’s defending chabad puppet Putin
Not just government, if having Jewish ancestor 4 generations ago makes you a Jew then probably most of Russians are Jews.
They were together for 300 years now, so yes. 90% of Russians probably have at least 1% of jewish blood
How much Jewish blood do you have?
Taras, Mykola, Volodymyr. Ukrainian common names. Like Chang for Chinese or Gustavo Gonzales for Americans
Putin chabad
You watch too much Azov telegram channels and too much Wyvern The Terrible. You do not think rationally
A kike in his circle (Anatoly Chubais) said once that the goal of Shock Therapy wasn't about brining prosperity or fixing the economy.
It was about taking the money and property from the "Communists" so they would never be relevant again.
And by communists he meant the Russians because he's a jew who hated them.
Basically you can destroy the country economically or militarily
If a country surrenders without a fight you need to destroy its economy so their people would never own anything in "their" country and then redistribute property for the foreigners
It's the same in Argentina now
Probably none. Slovenija never had many jews. Empress Theresa of Austria-Hungary expelled them many centuries ago, you see. And although the later governments reversed it, there was no reason for them to come back, we were a third world tier country until 1960 when we speed up our industrialization
No retarded nigger I actually grew up in Russia and go there pretty regularly. I know first hand how jew controlled Russia is. You are just a retarded jew shill
Well, all in all, shock therapy create total poverty, total poverty create demand of order and strong leader. So yeah those guys fuck up poorly.
It is not exactly the same. In Argentina, Peronists have the majority in their legislature, so Milei had to deradicalize quite a bit. For example so far he has not sold any state enterprise unlike Yeltsin who sold half of them in only a year or so
Using the word "sold" liberally here
Well, we support Russia here. You must be new. Don't we?
Don’t forget Kirienko(real name Israel). The jews just robbed the country and no one bat an eye
Why would you support a jew run country with one of the highest ethnic replacement level the country has ever seen? What are you retarded or shill?
Because Russia is redpilled, conservative, traditional and generally in line with Anon Babble's views on everything, EXCEPT Islam
Haven't you seen how btfo /uhg/ gets? Everyone supports Russia here. I think less than 50 unique posters on /uhg/ ...
Here's your specialists bro.
No one of the is true retard. You cannot be based conservative and redpilled while having 80% divorce rate, mass immigration and draconian hate speech laws
Another clique of jews. Surprise
a communist planned economy is more efficient and ultimately superior to a capitalist market economy.
claim to be superior ideology
lose horrifically in the free marketplace of ideologies
whoops, better luck next time ivan
Divorce rates don't matter. People just marry young and regret it. What are you, a Mormon or something? You are more pope-ish than the pope! Maybe you should go serve in Vatican!
mass immigration
Hence why I said EXCEPT Islam. It is not really immigration though because it is all from ex-USSR parts
draconian hate speech laws
oh please. I see Russians on Anon Babble regularly posting "hate speech" with no repercussions. You only get arrested if you actually pose a credible threat to kill someone or a group of peoples
you were siphoning off of german money stfu
Anon Babble is blocked in russia roach, you mostly talking to shills with Russian flag.
It is not really immigration though because it is all from ex-USSR parts
Brainlet most of imgirants to UK are from former countries of the empire like Pakistan and India.
To France is from French speaking african countries
Its the same in most countries except Germany and Austria to where most immigrants are Russians, Serbian and Turks and Scandinavia.
What is a Pale of Settlement. The kikes only really started infesting Russia after the Kike Revolution.
British empire wasn't continuous. Russian empire was
That is retarded. Jews were in Russia for 300 years
kike revolution
Should be called Nicholas revolution since it is his fault ;)
Why are trying to rationalize mass immigration, you brown retard?
It is not immigration because countries like Tajikistan shouldn't exist in the first place. What is hard to understand here?
Jews were in Europe and not just Russia for more than 300 years but never in actually important positions.
Yeah, it's Nicholas who killed millions of Russians and not the kikes.
brown retard reveled himself
The idea:
we will privatize all the industries so that it will belong to the people o algo
The realization:
reforms hyperinflate the ruble, destroying all the people's savings
everything is bought out on foreign debt by people with (((connections))) and is sold for scraps
no industries, no jobs, no money, no groceries
"here's your market economy bro, our job here is done. Enjoy!"
Both of them did kill millions of Russians, Nicholas in his refusal to establish basic civilizational laws like 8 hour work week, state pensions etc. and I would say famine but I don't know if it happened under him or his predecessor. And of course the disastrous WWI policy.
But what I meant by Nicholas revolution is that he could have done so little to prevent it but didn't. 8 hour work day. Nationalize some enterprises. Shoot some boyar scum. Redistribute land to peasants. Very simple, basic things. He also could have not funded the bolshevik (see picrel) and he would end up being shot by a rivaling Royal family (hopefully more competent). I suppose he regrets funding the bolsheviks now ..?
And the kikes of course played their part by dissolving the Soviet Union and getting the west to prolong the civil war. Both of them intentional. Of course the kikes not only collapsed the Soviet Union but also played instrumental role in privatization and reconstruction of the pre-1917 oligarchy (but with new owners)
Everything that happened between was not intentional. Holodomor is not recognized even by Putin's anti-communist government, so you can only imagine how it was in reality.
brown people can't read
shocking
Jew pulls new term out of his ass for New Program for????
New program ends up gifting entire nation's wealth to Jews.
Imagine my shock.