AI is incompatible with control

Build global network of instant digital propaganda to brainwash people

Build AI technology that makes all propaganda untrustworthy

I don't think you realize the extent to which the system is imploding.
How does the propaganda machine coexist with AI, if the presence of AI means nobody believes the propaganda?
This is a crisis with no solution.

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Their gameplan is either have a limited fake pushback to regulate this tech for a power grab(more power to censor content). Or Alternatively go full digital ID to access online spaces, maybe even biometric sign ins(total control).

The problem with this approach is that it will only work to coral normgroids who are already oblivious to everything going on in the net. So all the targets it's meant to tie down(smart people or informed) can just seek alternatives. Even basic bitch activist types won't fall for it.

The future will probably have several webs, like there is Tor already today even though it's dogshit.

Open source AI will mean all control of any narrative is lost long term. this is such an interesting thing. Because of AI long term we will one day be able to generate the most insane videos with any kind of content we want mixed in.

that makes all propaganda untrustworthy

but the propaganda was always untrustworthy and already before AI 90% of the content you see in the news was fake.

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AI technology that makes all propaganda untrustworthy

I think you're giving the average person too much credit, as they will not actually notice or confirm any inconsistencies in any narrative fed to them.

These people are slow, they don't understand that black budget tech is always a decade or two ahead depending on the field. I wouldn't be surprised if in the future with tools to detect deepfakes, we find a shit ton from the ten or so years prior to dissemination.

The world was already fake and gayops with shadow puppet theatre galore. This just makes it even faker.

AI also closes the gap on intelligence and on how to properly articulate arguments. This is a huge issue by itself.

You can probably make a case for the opposite that it allows the system more leeway. A lot of informational noise and a constant meta doubt about "realness", usually just translates to apathy with no concrete action obvious to take.

Politicians will continue repeating platitudes and reference to "reputable" sources anyway.

No it isn't, it just emboldens subhumans into using the mechanical turk to think in place of them. These idiots will become even more atrophied in their faculties while those that shape the models will control any discourse that stems from the AI tools in action.

It's no different than some people chosing to stake their life on any dogmatic pre packaged belief system without even truly understanding even that shadow on the wall,(religion/philosophy/ideology).

The only real difference with this tard AI method is that the fishes will stay ignorant to what water is. So they'll stay within the thoughtspace(box) of modernity and use AI to fill in the blanks for any flavor of stupidity they so chose.

The oversexualized ai stuff makes me think it knows me better than I know myself

I think it will put a lot more focus on the person who brings the message. In other words everything will be assumed to be untrue by default and the person themself will have some kind of social credit score.

atrophied

I like your argument regarding this but I am going to push back on one aspect that is important. When you have a tool that handles specific things for you it means you can focus on other things that would have been impossible before.

In other words arguments will be more well articulated and broader in scope. Someone who is good at commanding AI and choosing the correct course of action will be empowered considerably.

I'm certain Samus Aran does not have ass or tits that big

Yeah I observe this myself too. Its kind of creepy in a way. A girl with unblemished skin that is shiny and almost like rubber somehow ends up turning me on more than it should.

Shut the fuck up subhuman, you don't get it. This type of activity is too basic, you don't see even midwits complain about thought to language barrier. You must be some truly handicapped individual not being able to put your thoughts into word while even having the leisure to think and double check at your own pace in a forum like this.

These are basic life skills we're talking about here, how can you be lacking in basic literacy. This technology is being used as a crutch for mongoloids like you to rise above their station and bullshit their way through life. As if this wasn't already a massive problem in the real world to begin with. Incompetent nepotism rules the planet, even these Elon techbros are fake meritocrats hiring jeets. Meanwhile it's used to steal light from the actually intelligent people being datamined and used as a cudgel to keep them from competing with those already in power.

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This is actually a serious problem that you haven't thought through:

If photos, videos, audio can't be trusted - how will people know what's real?

Then people will only trust media which is VERIFIED by some sort of mainstream AUTHORITY

I'm based and athletics-pilled

IS SHE TEXTING TYRONE?

it just emboldens subhumans into using the mechanical turk to think in place of them.

only subhuman cattle

it elevates smart people to become way smarter

she's calling in an airstrike on you fucking yid bastards

Incompetent nepotism rules the planet, even these Elon techbros are fake meritocrats hiring jeets.

Meanwhile it's used to steal light from the actually intelligent people being datamined and used as a cudgel to keep them from competing with those already in power.

You cant steal the light from actually intelligent people. You can devalue intelligence though. If everyone is smart nobody is. I think that is kind of the crux of your point being made. Take a look at the AAA game industry and you see how incompetent nepotism is working out for them. The CEOs and lead managers are getting raked over the coals because they lack the ability to actually survive in an industry where the people most rewarded are the ones that actually get shit done. And as a person who actually gets shit done why would I want some random dumb fuck telling me what to do.

AI is likely going to cause a pretty nasty shift in favor of some dude in his basement who knows how to build complex systems and just needs a small team to do it. This applies to the greater propaganda machine as well. Some random asshole can drop fake south park episodes where they say nigger 4000 times and it will end up being more funny than the actual show.

i hate how much self importance you dead end losers grant yourself. things develop and shit happens, you're not the main character in a movie. There isnt some illuminatti plan to control the world with ai you fucking retard

If anything, we currently lack guidance on this situation and there is absolutely nobody in charge. And its even more insane as we watch actual people in actual real life situations repeat bad tropes from sc-fi movies.

No it doesn't, if you needed a language model as your ghost writer then it shows you never even possessed the talent to begin with. You're so feeble minded that something as basic as composition is too much for you. Do you have a severe case of baby brain or lack the adequate vocabulary to be a writer?

It fools subhuman retards like you into thinking you'll ever approach the spark required in order to truly bridge the gap between thought and pen. Your retarded mind can bareley comprehend to concepts you envision and can't even put into appropriate sentence. How could you hope to use a tool of this trade for good or bad if you even lack the capability?

What does it matter if a model ever is capable of creating something approaching human creation, you're not the valuable training data anyways as a troglodyte and you wouldn't even have an eye for truth or beauty if the AI made it for you; Because you are bereft of it. I would say all you need do is be an editor for what the machine shits out. But we all know people like you are too fucking lazy and will eventually stop doing that if you ever even did at all. This is the reason fuckwits like you even gravitate to such haphazard tools.

It's only useful for automata and not actual creation. You are AN NPC who seeks to upgrade himself with this cog that (((they))) control. Because it makes no difference to you the method

I keep asking Elon on X, "who do we charge with manslaughter" in regards to his self driving cars.

No politician is working on laws for the obvious, they hate us. It's all one big joke and we are the butt.

I can see something like that. But there would be pressures against it in the west if it's done too explicitly.

Ultimately I'm really curious about perspectives, if AI is like a layer on or in everything, information about all exchanges and processes in a society,
It means someone will have the highest perspective, something like an ultimate information compiler.

In a company for example I can see hiring and firing being made more impersonal if AI has access to work performance-data in real time. And if the boss needs to fire someone he just confers with it or maybe even the process can be automated needing only a final approval.

Larp all you want, but we all know you're inherently worthless as a human being if you think a language model is useful for anything other than systems. If you aren't even robust enough or have even basic level mutli disciplinary talent then you'll never amount to anything. You won't be the one making these systems, you'll be one of the mechanical turk chained to it.

And if the boss needs to fire someone he just confers with it or maybe even the process can be automated needing only a final approval.

The boss will be the one who is likely to be fired by the worker. The worker will be more focused on completing complex systems they could not have made.

I know how to defeat your argument.
If 2 people can do more than one person then how many people does an AI add up to?

Unless you don't believe that multiple people can accomplish more than one person. At that point we would simply be at an impasse. lol

Should Anon Babble have a dedicated AI thread?

It would be nice to have a centralized place with zero censorship that non retards can keep up to date on the topic. Id love to have such a resource.

Do you just drink propaganda or is water still in your glass sometimes?

she is texting me, that is my wife you're talking about so I suggest you adjust your tone to something a little less vulgar

Larp all you want, but we all know you're inherently worthless as a human being if you think a language model is useful for anything other than systems.

Also there is another aspect of this. I think you might have a point that niggers will always be niggers no matter what tech they use. BUT, you might be underestimating the effect on politics and thus a wider effect on pop culture.

For example, its very easy to use an AI to get every major thing someone has done their entire life and assign a social credit score organically without the need for a central authority. Decentralized social credit scores would merely be an extension of currently existing technology.

Is this really what gamers want?

You're so fucking stupid, no wonder you love these tools. Your trite little "argument" is barely sapient.

Life isn't about getting along or working together, that only happens when there are common goals and we all know it. Zero sum is the norm and it always has been. Do you truly think there is no real intent behind this technology other than "the greater good". Those who hold the reigns determine what that will end up being and we can only co opt as much of what's made for our own ends as possible. This retarded tech utopian crap is what they feed gullible fools like you into believing in order to milk you dry then crush you underfoot with these new tools. Are you pretending to be this retarded or are you genuinely this foolish to think something so dangerous curated by your mortal enemy is something to be trusted and not exploited?

These are the tools of your enslavement and the tools of those dysgenic who wish to run this little cattle farm to the ground before giving up the reigns. If they truly cared about ethics or improving work efficiency then it would be an opt in system. Instead basically everything connected is datamined and scraped ruthlessly while idiots like you clap away.

The real reason it's done by coercion is because if it was done with the aforementioned methods then only mostly chaff would partake of their little polycule hovel. No one of even passing intelligence would be fooled into casting pearls before swine(aka people like you).

You don't even need human data either, there is plenty of archived data from book scans in the commons and you can model learning in other ways. You don't need higher thought for basic low level functions of these models. You idiots and your masters truly wish to usurp those that are your betters by copying them.

This is fools like you worshiping your profane god AI golem and casting yourself into its flames to "better humanity"m Forcing others to do the same and complain when there's pushback.

credit scores

unironic nanny state busybody crap

unironic catalog cyberstalking

I hope this is bait, because I just set your execution date.

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I never once thought of there being a utopia. I half agree with some of your points even. There is absolutely mal intent and there are absolutely incentives to enslave people.

However, this is also a technological paradigm. You can make the same argument as you have with computers or cars. Basically anything that has modified humanity by artificial means. So how do you continue your point when literally computers have "enslaved humanity" in a similar manner described. Its interesting. Yet you cant even be 100% sure you are not arguing with an AI as we speak.

Yeah, like I am the only one who thought of this.

You ain't fooling anybody with your rhetoric, just know that I'll be putting it to good use despite the fact that it shouldn't have happened. You can only ride this wave, for now.

This is fools like you worshiping your profane god AI golem and casting yourself into its flames to "better humanity"m Forcing others to do the same and complain when there's pushback.

I am actually really wondering, is the irony actually lost on you? You do understand you are currently "enslaved" by utopian bullshit just to be able to post here!

You ain't fooling anybody with your rhetoric

Shakes fist

you cant fool anyone with your fancy words!!

Like my fancy words and shit? LMAO

You can only ride this wave, for now.

I feel like this is a cat is out of the bag situation. I think the fact you intend to use the technology only bolsters that exact point.

I just fucking wish I could know what the fuck is going to happen next? Do you have any predictions?

You're littleraly a midwit, don't you understand this LLM was made specifically to replace you? You're on the same level as jeet code monkeys worshiping AI only to find out low level coding will be among the first to be replaced. You're an absolute retarded feeble minded ingrate who is taking the side of the establishment in no uncertain terms. You're facilitating the degeneration of humanity and it's theft at the hands of the most bankrupt of any quantifiable metric. That's what I meant by rhetoric, you can't pretend to be someone you're not.

Do you truly think you've elucidated on anything? You've done nothing other than drool here and be the perfect foil and living embodiment on why I'm completely right about everything I've posted here.

You do understand you are currently "enslaved" by utopian bullshit just to be able to post here!

You're a slave, I'm a Prefect. Can you imagine unironically having these tech utopian beliefs in the current year. Can you imagine the collective talent of basically all past geniuses of humanity being squandered and still so in such a way? Just so people can watch tiktok, nigger crap music and the obese can live for yet another day at everyone else's expense? Technology has been used as a crutch for stupidity as opposed to elevating humanity. A free pass for stupid behavior instead of actually learning basic lessons.

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I'm using war as a business to end war as a business. You wouldn't get it, Sanjay.

You're littleraly a midwit, don't you understand this LLM was made specifically to replace you?

I'm self employed. I am also very experienced in my field and AI has increased my capabilities massively in the things I do. I will probably never work for anyone while creating systems that are extremely difficult to setup even for those who with resources.

The best way to know who is the closest to reality is by their ability to make predictions. Otherwise knowledge is worthless in this context. I do find your points interesting and I am really wondering. What will be the first true indication of enslavement be for me if I don't work for anyone?

That's pretty wild man. I mean you can end war by just having weapons that directly target the leader of any group you oppose.

your biggest fault is underestimating your opponent

I feel so uncertain about all of this. This entire situation is layers deep and I cant help but wonder if maybe I am just some dumb nigger...

he doesn't know about remote weapons and nanoneuronet

You probably aren't even worth them taking the time to target lol.

I bet you don't even have basic software opsec let alone hardware. One of these days you'll be looking at other competitors of what you're assembling and eye code that looks suspiciously similar to yours. None the wiser, this is the shared contributions you wished for no? What a shame that others will eat of your fruit while you only get by.

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I accurately estimated my opponent, that's why I was completely disillusioned with this bucket called earth and you insects crawling along it's borders. You little spiders are nothing and the rain is coming.

If you are smart enough to understand what code to take you would have been smart enough to write it in the first place though. Also I have strongly considered just going open source route and profiting as a public figure rather than as a developer. I don't believe the future is going to reward people the same way as it does right now.

I have often talked about how we will see the first super villain in our life time. Maybe anon is it LMAO

This is a crisis with no solution.

The solution is a messianic figure to fix everything and control AI.

Theism is too vulnerable as a social hierarchy that can be manipulated by cluster B types. Meaning that even if it does work it wont work for very long before it turns on itself and people begin virtue signaling about book burnings and slaughtering devil worshippers.

it wont work for very long

Nope.
Somewhere south of seven years.

yeah... If even that.
I thought about this a lot but at the end of the day. traditional religion is incompatible in any kind of technocratic society. If its designed well it becomes redundant. If its done poorly then it will result in psychopaths running rampant caring little for the doctrine while exclaiming they are the closest person to god while eating children alive for personal gain. A narcissist does not care about what they exploit or who they destroy and if we don't find effective solution vet the individuals that seek this kind of behavior then all is lost and nothing else matters. Any tools we devise to root them out will be used by them to its creator.

All I see is death in the future and the better our technology gets the less we need people anyway.

"Beauty will save the world," - Dostoevsky

Some seem to think this will be the hand of god but to me I see something far more sinister. Something that many seem to have not realized. That in an era of technology, its elegance that will save us all. In the context of simplicity with the greatest functionality. There is nothing more beautiful in my mind than a system that works perfectly with as few moving parts as possible. There is nothing more frightening than this in my opinion as it means so many of us are about to die in the name of simple elegance.