Last year, solar grew 2x faster than nuclear fission ever has.
Not in “nameplate capacity” - in actual generation.
Not in percentage growth - in absolute growth.
Solar is the fastest growing source of nuclear power the world has ever seen.
Ignore it at your own peril. x.com
That's neato. Too bad it has so many downsides and problems isn't it?
uh sweetie the sun makes the same amount of energy every year
If solar was gonna happen why wouldn't it already be here ? And the excuses they make away for why we trash solar aren't even interesting anymore.
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yeah and we've never been poorer or owed the kikes more money
Solar is also the reason that Spain, Portugal and Italy lost parts of their electric grid a few weeks ago and blacked out large parts of 3 countries
We are deploying it because its cheap to implement. However its also unreliable and deteriorates fast with very short life spans. Its inconsistency cause grid shortages and over supply alternatly. The batteries required to provide a modicum of stability cost roughly 40 x the actual solar generation and also have short life spans
We will continue to deploy solar on political whims for the next decade or so but its long term utility is dubious at best. Especially for norther europe
YOU MUST PAY THE SUN'S TAX. SOL REQUIRES COMPENSATION.
Definitive proof that Elon musk is a retard
solar is a source of nuclear power
did i hit my head and get transported to the idiocracy timeline?
where the fuck do I get nuclear solar panels?
why is every thread I’ve read today extra fucking retarded
Real solar power has never been tried.
kek. Have a (You)
I don't understand why so many people here hate solar (and wind). The only reason I'm able to sail away from any subhuman browns 6 months a year is because of it. The same applies when I stay in my cabin with not a soul in a 1 hour drive radius.
"Green" energy + Nuclear is all we need.
Ignore it at your peril
Why do faggots say this about literally everything?
Spain, Portugal, and Italy
This nigga thinks Italy is adjacent to Iberia kek. opinion discarded.
Probably because all the solar panels in California burned up and needed to be replaced
"Green" energy + Nuclear is all we need.
Correct. The problem is that we are not doing that. We are replacing nuclear with green so grids are failing across the EU because load cant be managed properly
The entire EU power grid is interconnected. Different countries take on bigger or smaller loads at different times of the year. Your ignorance is not my fault nor my problem. France was also affected but in a smaller way
We're in peril bros...
That’s cool, doesn’t contribute to base load though.
Also 3000%+ tariffs on Chinese solar lol
Its inevitable everyone will have it on their home. Oil will run out. They stopped talking about that around 10 years ago because they didn't want people to panic. But it will happen. Coal will run out as well. All fossil fuels will. It is inevitable. Hope you like using bikes and only taking your car out when your solar has charged it
jews bank everything on solar
new ice age is about to begin
it ends up being completely useless
der ewige retards
Fun fact: it would take 30 minutes of sunlight to undo all the carbon emissions of humanity since the industrial revolution by reversing combustion.
Nuclear being unpopular is a fatal downside
Only downside is
Not even using it in public places to cut energy costs because China kicks your ass at it, it's why you're gonna fail.
Here come the armchair scientists at Anon Babble that think they know better than the banks and businesses funding and creating multi-billion dollar energy projects
Here's something you can understand bud
Remember when half of Canada was on fire and the smoke was everywhere and how bad the air was?
We are constantly causing a global wildfire in terms of C02 emissions by burning this highly concentrated decayed and pressurized plant matter.
None of us know what real clean air is.
solar cannot increase retard, it's cap by law.
fucking memeflag! kys! do it!
Ofc
Solar is great and only gonna get better
Diposal and storage are the real issues now
Generation is going great
Right because banks and energy companies give two shits about anything other than money and maximizing profit.
The reason why wildfire smoke is toxic is not the CO2, its particles, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, and other combustion products like sulfur dioxide.
Most of that crap actually causes global cooling, and due to environmental policy, is filtered before emission.
solar is the fastest growing source of nuclear power
Am I reading this wrong or is he retarded
Hi retard, I have been expecting you.
Currently at 110 btw
I have a megabase in factorio that runs entirely on solar panels, the blueprints are swastika shaped and a fractal, which create an enormous swastika made out of swastikas made out of swastika solar panels. It generates 45 gigawatts of continuous power.
he means the sun is a nuclear power plant
Not even using it in public places to cut energy costs because China kicks your ass at it, it's why you're gonna fail.
SOLAR FREAKIN’ ROADWAYS!!!!
CHINAH NUMBA ONE!!! FUCK EYOUUU! FUCKEH CANADAH!!! CHINAH NUMBAH ONE!!! CHINESE SOLAR ROADWAYS!!!!
Fire was the most damaging human invention
If solar was gonna happen why wouldn't it already be here ?
Battery and inverter technology and cost improvements. The cost of the panels has come waaaay down and the quality of the other two is going way up.
It is still a major pain in the ass from a homeowner perspective but once you expand it out to a larger scale, it totally makes a lot of sense.
Like musk man pointed out that the US could generate all its electricity from a 100 by 100 mile solar field. I've checked his numberinoes against your total electricity bill and yeah, he's correct.
Make building nuclear plants hard as hell
Actively shut them down in the name of green energy even though they are green energy
Need new green energy from somewhere
Turns to more expensive and toxic solar panels.
Solar is great here, I pay 4$ Canadian every two months for power
Yeah, man. Those banks and businesses know all about sucking up subsidies from tax payers and skimming their % off the top.
Those banks
Guess where the data for this map comes from.
be solar energy
10 times more expensive than nuke
works only from 10am to 16 pm
almost crash the entire european powergrid
europe saved by France that could unplug Spain in time
no harm to euro powergrid because french nuclear power shielded europe
total blackout in spain, portugal and parts of morocco
it will happen more and more as solar become popular
We are becoming third world tier with total black out like in the third world thank to solar and wind. What a time to be alive. Meanwhile China as flying cars.
I can't take the retardation anymore frens...
Spain just found out the hard way why renewables are a bad idea.
Ever wonder why no engineer supports net zero and only political ideologues do?
Oh? You've checked the math? Really? What's the efficiency in electrical transmission per mile? You don't know, do you? You can't transmit electricity an indefinite range. A solar farm that size would cost the US $trillions to maintain and repair, not to mention it would create it's own weather....which would destroy it.
A 200mi x 200mi solar farm (that's 4 times the size of the one you propose) would be about 322k x 201k solar panels in area, using standard dimensions. That just shy of 65 BILLION solar panels. Using the best of circumstances, we get about 5 peak sun hours per panel (the average in the US is less than 5, but w/e), and at 300w per panel, that's about 1.1kWh per panel. Or roughly 71 billion kWh. Too bad the US consumes 4 TRILLION kWh per year.
Somebody is full of shit.
And? What the fuck do you think that proves? Where on that does it say they didn't siphon off tax payer cash?
You fucking nigger.
That just shy of 65 BILLION solar panels.
As a factorio player I’m just like :"ok boss you got it, 65 billion solar panels by Saturday" "I might have to drain a few oceans, bring back slavery and mine several asteroids to the core but it WILL be done!"
Africa has the fastest growing population in the world. That means it's good right?
That's true for everything, energy sources of all kinds included.
This is one of the rare occasions that Elon is actually right in what he's spamming on twitter. China is investing massively into solar and has been doing for quite some time.
Spain isn't a first world country in many ways, it would be like complaining about nuclear power because Soviet Russia fucked up Chernobyl.
Solar is fine.
Wind is fine.
Fission is fine.
Geothermal is fine.
Even fossil is fine if steps are taken to minimize the ecological impact.
The problem is idiots who keep insisting we should only have one "main" source of generating power. We need all of them, and we need all of them in vastly greater numbers. Our underutilization of fission is an issue, however.
times more expensive than nuke
>works only from 10am to 16 pm
The peak electrically demand is during the day.
Oh? You've checked the math?
Yes.
You can't transmit electricity an indefinite range
You don't need to put all the panels in the same place and you already use transmission lines to distribute power over long distances.
would cost the US $trillions to maintain
It'd be about half a trill to replace all the coal plants with wind turbines from memory. So yeah, not super cheap. But neither are things like nuclear reactors when you factor the whole build, maintain, fuel handling and decommissioning process. A lot of people criticise renewables for being subsidised but it's not a coincidence that people were so keen on reactors previous given the several hundred nuclear tests that have been performed.
Using the best of circumstances, we get about 5 peak sun hours per panel (the average in the US is less than 5, but w/e), and at 300w per panel, that's about 1.1kWh per panel. Or roughly 71 billion kWh. Too bad the US consumes 4 TRILLION kWh per year.
Somebody is full of shit.
If you model it using this map;
You'll discover that it's entirely doable even with a few hours of peak daylight in the US and that size of field.
And? What the fuck do you think that proves? Where on that does it say they didn't siphon off tax payer cash?
Where did I say they didn't? And why do you think a bank might be so keen on producing maps of solar irradiance? Mebes because they're planning on buying up lots of that land? And what was the federal reserve more recently given the legal ability to do?
the peak electrically demand is during the day
Exaclty, hence it is more importante to have controllable electricity, unlike solar or you end up like Spain.
The Chinese don't know how much they have on their roofs now they're relying on satellite sampling to guess.
Factory warehouses right across the whole eastern provinces got a huge amount of installation in the last year because trade wars, overproduction pushing down prices and private sector aware the numbers for making their roof into panels now solidly positive. If you have a factory with electrical loads (lots of factories do) or there is one down the street with a load and you can run a wire to it behind the meter its pretty much irreversible straight money gain in China now.
Too bad the US consumes 4 TRILLION kWh per year.
I ran the numbers myself through global solar atlas to check them. If you don't believe me, I just asked the AI a nice straightforward question and guess what the answer is. The same.
You've missed some decimal places off in your sums somewhere.
Ok, transporting the power, storing the power, the fact that production of energy can't be controlled.
10,000 sq miles is a little larger than Massachusetts. For an Englishman like yourself, this is larger than Wales. You're arguing that we should bulldoze the same amount of land as the country of Wales to install crappy solar panels that don't last, and break down into the environment, for the environment?
Other means of power generation can be scaled much easier, use much less land, and their production can be controlled. Since it isn't reliant on sunlight, they can generate power locally.
Shit pisses me off, like environmentalists celebrating solar while miles of desert ecosystems get ruined by overzealous politicians trying to win points.
Why does Anon Babble think they know better in regards to energy production, than the people who have openly admitted to want to reduce energy production?
What did anon mean by this?
Don't forget access roads and space for people to walk around the panels to clean them. Then housing for the cleaners, etc. You can fit all of humanity in a cubic mile. You need to mush them up. These are not honest arguments that the salesmen make. Solar is good for off grid where transmission is saved not lost. It might lead to a more distributed world. Around here where everything is stolen for scrap metal, home solar and cell phone internet works. The governments seeth about it.
buy an ad you faggot
Why do environments never mention that those solar panels are composed of rare metals, a resource more limited than oil, that only last 2-3 decades at most, and then you have to replace all those rare metal panels again, which by the way, we can't store all that energy it produces or use all of it due to infrastructure, even if had a use for it.
My country and Germany have invested heavily in solar energy for literally the 2 decades. There's a reason why don't use it a main energy supply and why Canadian government is now investing in SMR plants. If solar was so great for us, why are going back to nuclear? It's because solar energy doesn't work as a baseload and there's literally no battery storage that can store all the energy solar panels produces.
It literally does not exist, even if we tried building those batteries today, it wouldn't be enough to even last a single day. And that alone would us trillions of dollars, all for a technology that we would have to replace in 2-3 decades, using materials that won't outlive oil.