We often hear on Anon Babble from westerners that Slavs should do this or do that. But consider the following: Slavs never were united people. There was never ANY kind of slavicdom. West, East and South Slavs were different tribes from the get go that adopted slavic language, but otherwise weren't related by blood, culture or any other relation. We have no bonds or any kind of obligations to each other, the opposite: we were always enemies. And Ukrainians are even worse case - their whole "culture" is based upon work of people known for treachery (thrice cursed traitor Chmielnicki), cleansing of other nations and terrorism (Bandera). We can't form a unified front for differences of culture, interests are too great, not to mention mutual distrust and hatred that is hundreds years old. There. Now you know.
We often hear on Anon Babble from westerners that Slavs should do this or do that...
Slavs never were united people. There was never ANY kind of slavicdom
Blasphemy and revisionism. Slavs are a race, culture and insterest group and we should fight like one
I'm the tree but not Ukrainian.
very edgy boy
We are literally not. West Slavs, according to DNA study, were genetically indistinguishable from all people who lived around whole Baltic coast. Our ancestors were here at least since first century of our era. In other words - there were never some kind of proto-slavic tribe that broke into three.
Bro, stop lying. You are Russian
This is what happens when retards are allowed on the internet.
there never was slavicdom
The Warsaw Pact was quite literally united slavs (and also hungarians and gypsies, who are basically slavs). It is polish revisionism because you guys have spent 100 years seething and crying that Poland doesn't have the numbers to be what Russia is, which is the big daddy of all the other slavs. The end result is that where there could be a superpower of 900 million people from the Oder to the Amur, there is instead a bunch of crappy countries with about 500 million people, 300 million dead or aborted babies and 100 million who moved to the west to be prostitutes and toilet cleaners.
Stop being a cuck. It is not healthy
NHH
R1a as indicator of anything
Not to mention this map is just wrong, especially when it comes to Russia. Like I said, west Slavs were indistinguishable from other baltic people and that includes northern Germany, Baltic States, Sweden, Denmark. Later r1b and L1 influence shows how Celts (r1b) and germanic tribes (L1) were spreading through Europe.
Basically a sub 80IQ pretending he knows what haplogroups are and drawing retarded conclusions from it. Fun fact, R1a is not found in the highest concentrations in Russia but in western Slavs, particularly Poland. Russians in particular cluster with Finno-Ugric and Baltic populations just as readily as they do with other Slavs.
And, by the way, haplogroups are a small % of one genetic lineage, you can have breed for generations with niggers and as long as a direct line exists they will be pitch black niggers with R1a. Better not look at India and Pakistan either or you'll be shocked.
This will go over your head no doubt.
Why does the fact that "we wuz russians" make you seethe so much? Face it, our ancestors, they are cossacks, they are tsars, they are bolsheviks. They are however NOT Hapsburgs or Balkans
Speak for yourself. My ancestors weren't bolsheviks, tzars and God forbid cossacks.
Because we never were Russian, lmao. The first mention of the Rus dates back to the 9th century, 300 years after Slavs already moved in the Balkans which at no point reffered to themselves as Russians. In fact 'Rus' is not even a slavic namee but adopted from the Vikings, which is fucking hilarious.
But enjoy your retardation, whatever.
West, East and South Slavs were different tribes from the get go that adopted slavic language
Serbs and Sorbs were literally the same tribe by most accounts, and Croats and Serbs were geographically adjacent before migrating
Just because Russia was ruled by Germanic tsars since Romanovs doesn't mean that the Russian population is muh vikings. They are Slavs. They look nothing like Germans. For example, German women have a hard, masculine and rough faces. Almost rectangular.
Slavic women have round and soft faces, similar to Asian women
And that somehow makes everyone a Russian? You have mental problems, clearly.
Better not google indo-europeans or you might realize that all latin, germanic, slavic and baltic speakers are related and stem from a common indo-european language and all our langauges are related to Sanskrit. Ergo, we're all pajeets according to your logic.
posts a disgusting goblin with plastic surgergy caked in makeup
Yup, mental illness.
The similiarity of names of the tribes is probably random. Their language shows similiarity with either Polish - or Czech and Slovak. There are no evidence that there is some kind of relation between Sorbs and Serbs.
Makeup doesn't alter your face and there is no plastic surgery. I am having a hard time finding young Russian women without lip fillers, but that ultimately does not count as plastic surgery
And that somehow makes everyone a Russian? You have mental problems, clearly.
No, just Slavs.
Slavs came from ukraine and not russia.
It's not random, there are similar links like between croats and white croats too.
Ukraine didn't even exist before 20th century
And russia didn't exist during the ethnogenesis of slavs.
Russia
Big daddy of all other slavs
You implied with that point that Russia is a Slavic ethnostate, which it never was by the Russians' own admission. Russia was always an imperial power looking to subjugate its neighbors since the czars.
Why do Russniggers care if nazis border them? I thought they were aryan giga-chads like Anon Babble told me? Why would they hurt other Whites?
it's not random, and we had a massive linguistic reformation in the 19th century, plus we're talking about 1400 years apart, the connection isn't even really a matter of dispute
Enemies? There are no people in the world that I personally hate or speak badly about. Two simple reasons. Fewer conflicts. It's easier to live this way
Like I said - there is no evidence that there's any relation between those people. The name "Sorb" came from Polish word "pasierb" that can be translated loosely as "neighbor". It's easy to imagine same process led to the "Serb" name of Balkan Serbs who where neigbors of other Slavic tribes and assumed the name at some point.
Think of things like this. It will help you navigate the world.
There are real things like science and math. Regardless who is watching, if anyone is alive. A coin will weigh a certain amount, it will still be 1 coin. etc. This is physis.
Then there are things that are purely conventional. Economics, politics, culture, etc. If everyone on earth dies. There is no economy, there is no politics, there is no culture. A coin is worth 1 coin if people agree on the value of the coin. If there are no people, the coin is not worth anything. This is nomos.
The mistake people make is trying to apply the rules of Physis to the rules of Nomos. It can kiiiinda work, but it does necessarily HAVE to work. For example, you can create models for the economy, but people can just start behaving in different ways if they want and your model wont fit anymore because people are not science/math.
So when you try to say "their whole culture is based on x, so they will always be enemies" this is an argument that is similar to math but politics and culture are not math. People do not NEED to share a culture in order to be friends or enemies. They can be friends or enemies for irrational reasons, good reasons, mixed reasons, bad reasons. Doesn't matter, people just do what they do and you can't calculate that.
The EU makes even less sense than Pan-Slavism, yet that monstrosity still lingers on.
United Slavdom was kind off achieved in 1945 but with the terrible caveat of this Soviet machinery being built by Bolshevik kikes originally.
no they aren't they're a mix of fingols and khazars
our ancestors were here since first century AD
that's because all Slavs originated in Poland-Ukraine area
Enemies in the past. Let's face it - West and East Slavs were busy fighting since times immemorial. South Slavs were too far away - and that's why they were busy fighting with each other instead of other branches of Slavs.
Serbs and Croats in Poland, and Serbs and Croats in Balkans
both areas have high proportion of R1a
must be completely random
you don't really believe this, do you?
I'm the cloud but not Russian. Also the rain's my piss.
Probably false. DNA research show that Slavs didn't spread through conquest - but by adopting the language by indigenous people. Again - r1a haplogroup is "slavic". It's original haplogroup of people who lived originally on the Baltic shore. Hence high proportion of this haplogroup in Scandinavia. That would explain high r1a proportion around Moscow. The scandinavian people who invaded it in Middleages were probably descendants of this original baltic group.
Slavic spread through conquest and colonization, I don't know where you're comign from but from DNA research and especially haplogroup studies the slavs spread violently. In russia they assimilated the balts and were exterminating the finno ugrics, in the balkans they were violently destroying all non slavic populations who started to hide in the mountains but lost int he end.
R1a and I2 haplogroups are both slavic haplogroups which at first were confined to ukraine.
modern Poland acts nothing like Slavs. They greenlight everything west does. Even our government has more backbone
We often hear on Anon Babble from westerners that Slavs should do this or do that.
as a "slav", i recommend that slavs should self exterminate in a non violent manner which they are doing. the balkanslavs are doing their part and moving out and amalgamating themselves (Self genociding) by marrying germans, anglos etc in austia, germany, canada, australia etc. czechs and slovaks i believe r doing the same thing.
slavs are too dim and weak to be anything really. when u look at a map of europe and realize its like 40 different micro slav polities its quite depressing. as one tribe stuck in belarus its fine but through historical accident (Capitalizing on a plague and the end of rome caused by partially the germanics) they are now occupiers of half of europe. they are scumbags and there are so many of them and it makes me sad.
zao san sto san slav. najgori ljudi u evropi.
That's literally legendary and has no grounds in actual research.
genomebiology.biomedcentral.com
but by adopting the language by indigenous people
this doesn't happen unless there is an empire and conquest. Both genetics and history prove Slavic migrations into the Balkans
greenlight everything west does
Because there is a dual fear in Poland of murderous banderite Ukrainains and of neo-Stalinist Russians. The previous PiS government though carefully cultivated its Visegrad 4 group and Intermarium, in opposition to Franco-German interests
Then explain how did the slavic I2 haplogroup replace the native ones in the balkans.
slavs in the balkans are the descendents of low cast slavic men with no wives (the high cast chieftans had slavic princess wives they brought with them but for every high caste there was 20 low castes) raping romanoillyrico women whose husbands were slaughtered by the slavs. The average balkan slav is 60 percent slavic (from belarus genes) and 40 percent romanoillyrian. this is from murder of defenceless peoples savaged by plague and rape of their wives and daughters.thats y even today when u talk to balkanslavs u can see there is something not quite right about them. i dont believe in epigenetics fully but when ur literal creation roots are from the most despicable and violent circumstances possible ur descendents will have screwy/sick minds.
I don't know, you tell me. But it's CLEAR that R1a haplogroup ISN'T some kind of native slavic haplogroup but original baltic haplogroup.
Again - r1a isn't slavic. It's baltic. Otherwise you can't explain high proportion of it in Scandinavia.
That's very wrong. During the migration period the slavic tribes were migrating to the balkans, warriors together with their families.
Again - r1a isn't slavic. It's baltic.
Slavic and Baltic langauges are closely related and stem from a common Balto-Slavic language.
R1a is corded ware, before the migration period it was present mostly in scandinavians and slavo baltics. It was significantly present in russia or the balkans, they exist their now due to violent conquest.
Even if we take this at face value its nothing 'special' in the history of mankind. The Romans are famous for the rape of Sabine women, as an example.
It's baltic.
haplogroup N is Baltic, like Jagiełło .
Look at distribution maps. R1a is present in a limited amount in Norway but that is a different sub-branch that is separated by thousands of years from Slavic lines
R1a-L260 is Polish Y-DNA, and that is my haplogroup
if u look at balkan slavs there is clearly admixture of illyroroman genes. this came from rape. u think all men had wives in belarus?
yes but the sabines were more culturaly similar to the romans so the rape wasnt as forceful and often they married and it wasnt rape. they were an italic people. the slavs howebver were complete alien savages compared to the romanoillyrian women.its difficult to find that in history but u can see it in china (another epigeneticallly traumatized people) with the mongols raping the northern han etc.
You mean like Prussia was an imperial power subjugating the other germans or Sardinia the other Italians. Or how the PRC sought to conquer all other chinese warlord states. Fuck off, Brutananalewski, no one cares about your polish-american polka screeching about how russia is a mean. The entire reason Big Russia does not exist is because it would be a superpower like Chinkland.
imagine being some illyroroman women hiding in a cave ur husband just died from plague. u venture out of the cave to find roots and barley to eat and bring back to ur son and daughter. then a bunch of freaks who wipe their asses with their hands, eat humans, come to ur cave (slavs), slaughter ur son without second thought, rape u and ur daughter repeatedly. the children borne of that trauma are modern croats, serbs, bosnians, macedonians etc. that was the pattern of the creation of these people.
It will break your heart when you realize 1/4 Europeans are descendent from pre-indoeuropean populations which were invaded and subjugated by indo-Europeans with the only remnants of their language left in a small mountanous area between France and Spain called the Basque country. Shit happens.
There definitely were rapes by slavic men but it wasn't the case for most of the time.
yes. fine. but the rape of illyroromans by the slavs happened far more recent compared to the indo european rape of eef. so the trauma epigenetically isnt as deep into the genes therefore the trauma finds more expression. u get me?
so u think they what. came by and said my fair lady i ask thine hand in marriage? and they said "si, senor, me gusta" or however they said it? bro these are slavic savages. it was always rape.
the trauma epigenetically isnt as deep into the genes
therefore the trauma finds more expression
man just stfu youre embarrassing us
Chmielnicki Russian noble and hero. Traitors are those who converted to Catholicism and licked the heels of the Poles.
I don't use "baltic" in relation to Baltic States. I use it as adjective that describes the people who lived on the baltic coast. Something more or less like pic.
uh its true. if u come from more violent circumstances u are more fucked in the head. look at chugs.
I don't feel any trauma...in fact the balkans are one of the most peaceful areas in Europe in the 21st century, as weird as that sounds. But you believe what you want to believe, I guess. Also, why are the Slavs getting all the blame here? The Balkans were already ravaged by Langobards and the Ostrogoths before Slavs came to squat over their newfound dominion. Not to mention the Huns, Avars and Magyars. Shit, even the Mongols passed trough at one point.
you dont know anything about genetics or neurology. you should kill yourself tonight, seriously, do it the way you have thought about doing it. no one will miss you
its not that knd of trauma that u as an individual will feel but it means that u are kinda useless, never will achieve much etc. slavs get the blame cause they are the ones who ended up settling long term and doen the most rapes. u come from rape. ur a rape baby unironically.
butthurt serb or croach. i know enough to know the truth rape baby
when people pointed out that by your logic you are also a "Rape Baby" you tried to equivocate. thats how I know you should kys.
Slovenia is doing pretty good, if I do say so myself. What metrics for 'achievement' are you using here?
that rape happened farhter back thus its less impactful. and i am croatian. so i dont escape this. i am a rape baby. my grandfather killed my grandmother, my grandparents on the otjher side are also fucked in the head and these kinds of things are very common amongst my people. its clear there is a pattern of fucked upness and violence in my ethnicity and through historical research and intelligent mindmapping i figured out the root.
self loathing croat
ah, I see. so you should kys
lol so? a croat who hates his croatness or any slav who hates his slavness is a "truthful person". idiot. i just have balls enough to say what we are: savages."the truth shall set u free"
u have been thoroughly germanized as the branch of slavoids who come to slovenia first off
a) understood they were serfs and needed to listen to their superior germanic overlords much more thnan other countries
b) less rapes happened there. i believe slovenes are 90 percent slavic 10 percent illyroroman so u have less rape history in ur culture more unified "slavoid". u still however posess the dim slow wit and lack of creativity of slavs - u have never achuieved anything of note, as an exmaple
Good in what way? immigration? better than other EU countries sure. Only in terms of economy are we doing very good
u have been thoroughly germanized as the branch of slavoids
Slovenian is one of the most archaic languages in Europe...if we're germanized it was poor work on the part of the germans.
they were serfs and needed to listen to their superior germanic overlords
This is not true, the local Slavs became vassals of the Bavarians. The nobility was gradually assimilated but, as the most prominent example, the coronation of Carinthian dukes was conducted in Slovene up until the 15th century. Another prominent example is when Carniola was rewarded by Frederik III for coming to his aid where local nobles were given certain privildges, there are plenty of Slovenian nobles mentioned there. Moreover there was an entire class of people known as "Kosezi", German 'Edlinger', free men who bore arms. There's a hundred or so placenames named after them in Slovenia, most prominently a part of Ljubljana called Koseze.
Lastly, it is recorder In Frauendienst poem, Ulrich von Liechtenstein renders his arrival in Carinthia in the guise of a Venus in 1227, when Duke Bernhard received him with the Slovene salutation 'Buge waz primi, gralva Venus' ("God be with you, royal Venus"). Weird that a German would be greeting another German in Slovene...
i believe slovenes are 90 percent slavic 10 percent illyroroman so u have less rape history in ur culture more unified "slavoid". u still however posess the dim slow wit and lack of
Slovenia was populated by, at least in part, celts. No idea why you'd think the settlement of Slavs would've been more peaceful here as opposed to 50km south of Slovenia.
dim slow wit and lack of creativity of slavs - u have never achuieved anything of note, as an exmaple
What things of note do you consider achievements? What consitutes 'dim slow wit'? Last time I checked Slovenia doesn't lag behind in any relevant metric and often outperforms other European countries. In PISA scores Slovenia scores one place behind Austria and two places above Germany.
I've spent a lot of time in western Europe and most people who go abroad come back believing Slovenia is near paradise, because compared with places like Frankfrut, Brussels, Paris, etc it is.
Well the western cities look like concrete shitholes. Although the eastern countries receive western investment (Saudi, Dubai), so they look similar too. We actually have trees in our cities. No idea how western countryside looks like
Aren't they from Tartaria?
slav infighting is nature healing
hurry up and kill each other
Not really.
You watched too much television.
I'm pretty sure Ukraine's Nazi symbolism is a false projection 100% made up for a desired reaction/effect.
I've yet to see an entire family homeless with small children sleeping on the street in Slovenia...No idea why you're mentioning Dubai and Saudis, most investment comes from other EU countries.
From western EU countries, right?
I was in Hungary and it was a total shithole, half dismembered disabled war veterans were begging on the streets. ~4 years ago
We actually have trees in our cities.
as opposed to whom?
Yes. I've been to Hungary too and it is not pretty. Parts of Budapest are really nice and lovely but parts of it look like a hell hole. At least its cheap.
That being said Budapest still ranks higher than Brussels in my humble opinion and the Turkish baths are great.
actually, traitors are those who sided with Russia against Ruthenia and your own nobility
Slovenia in general has a lot of forrests, comparable to scandinavian countries and trees are everywhere.
I live in the most densely populated neighbourhood in the country (11 thousand people per sq km, higher than Hong Kong) and I'm literally 5 minutes walking distance from a forrest where you can gather blueberries and chestnuts. Pic related. You can hardly see the 5 story apartment blocks that are everywhere between and around the large tower blocks.
Among Europe’s capitals, Oslo stands out with the highest tree cover, with an impressive 72.03%. It is followed by Bern and Ljubljana, both with just over 50%.
which western cities look like concrete shitholes?
I have never been in Brussels
Brussels 100%, there's even a term for it 'brusselization'.
en.wikipedia.org
Frankfrut is another place I deeply disliked. In fact most of western Germany is depressive to me because its just so urbanized. Regensburg, on the other hand, I liked. North-western France is another place I disliked but the countryside from Paris to the German border is lovely.
FYI I'm not the same anon that made the original claim, by the way. I just chipped in.
Paris