Why do Christians still circumcise if in Gal 5:2, Paul says:

Why do Christians still circumcise if in Gal 5:2, Paul says:

Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.

Their churches don't read dirty verses to them that speak of nasty penises. That's for their local rabbi to educate them about

The dumbest fucking thing in the world has always started with "pastor says...".
The most evil tends to be "My rabbi said...".

A medical industry ran by Jews.

It's hilarious to hear gown adult men sit there stone face serious telling you these totally degenerate fake jewish fairytales are real and what the metaphors mean as if they're just matter of fact explaining a physics theorem. Think of the untold trillions of white man hours WASTED trying to divine the "true" meaning of all this horseshit that was probably made up in an afternoon by some horny pedo kike who wanted to steal some Cannanite history. I don't know if I should laugh or cry.

Nobody here does, that's an American thing.

Pastors are literally rabbis.

you mean normal Americans? they dont do it for religious reasons. it ws sold to them by the medical community looking to make an extra buck i think.

Americans are the only "Christians" that circumcise, they are the true definition of Judeo-Christian.

Yeah. Lots of jewish doctors here who convinced entire generations of Americans that circumcising their sons was "healthier" and "cleaner", and then those sons did it to their sons because they never actually stopped to consider the issue, and so on, suddenly it's a "tradition".

The jews, of course, did this not to make money (that's just a bonus), they did it so they can blend in better with the host nation - if every male is circumcised, you can't identify a jew just by looking at their dick. Honestly very clever, and stupid of Americans to fall for it.

t. Uncircumcised American

the fictional dead rabbi they worship and are told to emulate had his little yeshua mutilated
saul, I mean paul, talks out of both sides of his mouth on the issue and personally circumcised timothy
the central thesis of jew worship is that the material world is evil and false and suffering is good

christgolems (non-jews) were never required by james and the elders to circumcise.
However, christjews (jewish christians) were required by james and the elders to continue circumcision.
Important: This occurs 17+ years after the supposed death of jesus.
Galatians 1:18

Only after three years did I go up to Jerusalem to confer with Cephas, and I stayed with him fifteen days.

paul visits jerusalem three years after his vision of jesus.
Galatians 2:1

Fourteen years later I went up again to Jerusalem, accompanied by Barnabas. I took Titus along also.

This is when the jerusalem council occurs in Acts 15.

Acts 21

17 When we arrived in Jerusalem, the brothers welcomed us joyfully.

18 The next day Paul went in with us to see James, and all the elders were present.

paul meets with james and the elders in jerusalem
The elders are likely the priests mentioned in Acts 6:7

So the word of God continued to spread. The number of disciples in Jerusalem grew rapidly, and a great number of priests became obedient to the faith.

19 Paul greeted them and recounted one by one the things that God had done among the ethnicities/goyim (ἔθνεσιν) through his ministry.

20 When they heard this, they glorified God. Then they said to Paul, “You see, brother, how many thousands of Jews have believed, and all of them are zealous for the law.

james and the elders inform paul that thousands of jews have believed [in jesus] and all of them are zealous for the law.
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21 But they are under the impression that you teach all the Jews who live among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children or observe our customs.

22 What then should we do? They will certainly hear that you have come.

james and the elders inform paul that the christjews (Acts 21:20) are under the impression that paul teaches the dispersion to forsake moses, end circumcision, and to not observe the customs.
james and the elders then ask paul how they should proceed.
Will james and the elders explain to the christjews that paul's teachings are actually correct?

23 Therefore do what we advise you. There are four men with us who have taken a vow.

24 Take these men, purify yourself along with them, and pay their expenses so they can have their heads shaved. Then everyone will know that there is no truth to these rumors about you, but that you also live in obedience to the law.

james and the elders advise paul to take a vow and to pay the expenses of four men who took a vow.
The objective of james and the elders are to eliminate the rumors about paul and for paul to live in obedience to the law.
In other words, paul's teachings (Acts 21:21) are not approved by james and the elders.
paul's actions will not convince the christjews (Acts 21:20) to worship jesus because they already believe.
james, the elders, and the christjews (Acts 21:20) want to verify that paul is NOT an apostate teaching apostasy to the dispersion.

25 As for the ethnicities/goyim (ἐθνῶν), we have written to them our decision that they must abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals, and from sexual immorality.”

james and the elders mention the council's requirements for the ethnicities/goyim (ἐθνῶν) found in Acts 15:19-20.

Yes, the distancing from the material world is essential. If you don't control the material world, your children will be born as slaves, the ultimate sin. They say you're "degenerate" and have an "urge of the flesh" if you're concerned with the material world. It's literally trying to turn defeat into a feeling of victory. Christkikery is a lethal mind virus.

you may well be right about the deeper intention anon, i dont know. if they thought to hide detection due to experiences in Europe during the war then im not sure looking at their dicks was even a thing. everyone just knew who the jews were, though some were able to hide even out in plain site despite being cut. But sure, it could have been a factor i suppose.

reading gulf war books i noticed that it did cause captured special forces guys some problems because the muslims would strip them for hosing down/beatings etc, see their dicks and think they were all jews.

If you circumcised you're not christian, you're a kike's slave.

jews convinced most of america it's for health reasons, even non-religious americans circumcise their children

talks out of both sides of his mouth

not really. its very clearly explained with lots of emphasis on it not gaining you any spiritual advantage. Timothy was done just so that it was easier for him to preach to and live amongst the jews.

and yet saul still says it's important
Romans 3

What advantage, then, is there in being a Jew, or what value is there in circumcision?

2 Much in every way! First of all, the Jews have been entrusted with the very words of God.

3 What if some were unfaithful? Will their unfaithfulness nullify God’s faithfulness?

4 Not at all! Let God be true, and every human being a liar.

and now you'll say, but over here paul said! right. he talks out of both sides of his mouth.

Because Paul literally circumcises a guy later on so he fits in with all the other Jews who made up the bulk of Christian converts. All forms of Judaism are gay, and that includes Christinaity. Thor does not demand you sacrifice a body parts, and does not say you are full of sins. He just says you should stand up for what you believe in, up to your last second on earth.

Oh boy I can't wait for the part where sonic comes in and condones penis cutting. Tell me, why did Christians kick out Jews so much if they worship them? What about the pagans that willingly allowed them? Or the Roman senators that killed Caesar to keep their loan interests and jewish businesses operating?

Lots of jewish doctors here who convinced entire generations of Americans that circumcising their sons was "healthier" and "cleaner",

Its even crazier because it was done mostly during 50's, its not older tradition than that.

in that context being a jew is correlated with being circumcised, since being an ethnic jew = being cut, since its done at such a young age. thats all he's saying. not that just getting cut means that you automatically get included in the 'jew' category. Paul makes it quite clear that being cut doesn't save you, and thats really the whole point.

Timothy was done just so that it was easier for him to preach to and live amongst the jews.

No, timothy is said to be a jew (mother) so he is required by james and the elders to obey mosaic law and practice circumcision.
See:

christgolems have always served jews.
Tacitus, Histories, Book 5

For the worst rascals among other peoples, renouncing their ancestral religions, always kept sending tribute and contributions to Jerusalem, thereby increasing the wealth of the jews

Before going to the ethnicities/goyim (ἔθνη), saul was told by james, cephas, and john to remember the poor which he was eager to do.
Galatians 2:9-10

And recognizing the grace that I had been given, James, Cephas, and John—those reputed to be pillars—gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, so that we should go to the ethnicities/goyim (ἔθνη), and they to the circumcision (jews). They only asked us to remember the poor, the very thing I was eager to do.

What does "remember the poor" actually mean? And why was saul eager to "remember the poor"?
Romans 15:25-27

But now I am going to Jerusalem, ministering to the saints. For Macedonia and Achaia were pleased to make a certain contribution for the poor among the saints in Jerusalem.

For they were pleased, and they are debtors of them. For if the ethnicities/goyim (ἔθνη) have shared in their spiritual things, they ought also to minister to them in the material things.

1 Corinthians 16:1-4

Now about the collection for the saints, you are to do as I directed the churches of Galatia: On the first day of every week, each of you should set aside a portion of his income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will be needed. Then, on my arrival, I will send letters with those you recommend to carry your gift to Jerusalem. And if it is advisable for me to go also, they can travel with me.

See:
ἔθνος- biblehub.com/greek/1484.htm

Corresponding Greek / Hebrew Entries: - H1471 גּוֹי (goy)

in context he explicitly bring up the jewish blood ritual of circumcision as having value, instead of condemning the practice. fuck your half assed pilpul and fuck off jew worshiping apologist clown

Jew, in that verse (and most every time its used, honestly) is translated from the latin/greek word "iudeos". Its a geographical designation, not an ethnic one: iudeos is "Israelite living in the land of Judea" and gentile is "Israelite living outside of Judea".

When Paul here speaks of the value of being "Jews", and the value of circumicision, that is a Hebrew parallelism - saying the same thing in a slightly different way. He is not specifically talking about circumcision as a practice, he is pointing out that Judeans are circumcised - that "circumicision" and "being Judean" are the same thing, and then he responds to the accusation of being Judean as valueless. The practice of circumcision itself is not what is in question here; Paul says in other places that circumcision is a pointless tradition, it won't grant you any favor from Heaven. Even by his time, there were many "converted" Canaanites who circumcised themselves as was the local tradition among Israelites; circumcision was no longer a reliable method of telling who was an Israelite or not, which was its original purpose, so the practice fell out of fashion... except among the Canaanites, who today we know as jews.

Paul was not a hypocrite; this passage from Romans isn't saying two different things about the practice of circumcision at all.

he's clearly saying that being jewish is good in the sense that its the people to whom the law and prophets were given and for whom God has paid special attention to over the years, and will continue to do so because, even though many of those people have been unfaithful to God, He will be faithful to them. what you're quoting is part of a fairly lengthy sustained argument and also lacks the wider context of statements on the same subject in some of pauls other letters.

as for condemning it, he very overtly says that it doesn't save you and infact condemns you because its a sign that you have agreed to follow the law, which no one can do. thats why its faith in Christ and His perfect life exchanged for your life of sin which saves.

its fine when non believers want to bring this stuff up but its not done from a place of understanding. they generally just want to bitch about muh contradictions and such.

why did Christians kick out jews?

Because they aren't Christians

if they worship them?

They most certainly do not

What about the pagans that willingly allowed them?

Allowed who, the Christians? The pagans of Europe were part of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel; Christ and the apostles' mission was to bring them back to the faith of their fathers, hence why pagans converted to Christianity without much struggle - they were the same people as the Christians.

or the Roman senators...

I'm really not sure what you're asking here. The senators killed Caesar because Caesar was corrupt and a tyrant; a small religious group in Palestine had nothing to do with it (although the jews certainly took advantage of the crumbling and corrupt empire, opportunists that they are).

he's clearly saying that being jewish is good

right. but they're vermin that need to be exterminated
it's fine when jew worshiping retard kneel in the privacy of their own home, but when domestic and foreign policy are exercised with an eye toward their bronze age fairy tales that's beyond the pale.

No, he explicitly does not. He's using circumcision in a parallelism: "being Judean" and "circumcision" are described as the same thing. The practice itself is not what is in question, and he points out in several places that it's a stupid and pointless tradition. He is merely saying the Judeans are circumcised (at this time period) that is literally all he's saying. It is not a comment on circumcision as a practice, it's a comment on Judeans.

The pagans of Europe were part of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel; Christ and the apostles' mission was to bring them back to the faith of their fathers,

Read:

exactly. it takes a heavy bias to quote those little out of context verses and try to make the case that paul is secretly saying getting cut is what you should REALLY be doing etc.

look, you know you're lying, and I know you're lying, so cut the bullshit. I'm not worshiping your dead jew. jews need to be exterminated and jew worship needs to be consigned to the dustbin of history.

this is all besides the point of the theological argument paul was making.

At the time the Bible was written and compiled, there was no recognized ethnic group of people known as "jews" - almost every time the word "jew" is used, it is a geographical designation, not an ethnic one: it means "person living in the land of Judea". There are a couple times when it is used ethnically to mean "descendant of Judah", but this would mean it was talking about an Israelite.

Today's jews are NOT Israelites, and never have been - they are Canaanites and Edomites. You're correct - they need to be exterminated. God specifically ordered His people, the Israelites, to exterminate them in fact.

Stop getting hung up on the English translation's use of the word "jew"; it is not helpful, it breeds only confusion as to who is being talked about. Which, of course, suits the jews of today just fine.

you're full of shit. he explicitly brings of circumcision as having value "in every way" being chosen by yahweh is simply first on that apparently long list.

christians are told to emulate jesus over and over in the bible. over and over. jesus was mutilated. now whether he was born perfect or his circumcision made him perfect, I cannot say from your end. you'll want it both ways, probably

Ephesians 5

Follow God’s example, therefore, as dearly loved children

2 and walk in the way of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.

3 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people.

be a sacrifice like christ. sexual immorality is le bad. e.g. circumcise children to destroy their sexual function and happiness

Today's jews are NOT Israelites

I don't care. you may as well be saying that slytherin house isn't gryphondor. it holds the same value to me

I agree with all of that. What I do not agree on is that Christianity is jew worship; Christianity is the exact OPPOSITE of jew worship, it's jew hatred, and the only reason you don't see that is because you do not understand WHO jews are and WHO Christians are. Which is exactly by the design of the people who translated the Bible into Latin and later English. You hate Christians when you don't even realize that Christians are your people, and what we today know as jews are NOT your people but are instead the "Enemy of all mankind".

Brother, you aren't alone in your misunderstanding; the whole world misunderstands. The Bible speaks of a Great Deception: this mistranslation is a part of it. You're deceived. I do not hate you for it, I hate the jews who have deceived you.

Christianity is the exact OPPOSITE of jew worship, it's jew hatred

wrong. christianity is reform judaism. no more, no less.

Then you are lost. There could be nothing more important than knowing who you are, where you come from, Who your Father is. Nothing more important in the world - EVERYTHING hinges on this understanding.

Judaism came AFTER Christianity, how could Christianity be "reformed Judaism"? Judaism is corrupted/stolen Christianity, THAT is the truth.

Then you are lost.

retard jew worshiping fool. if I had the image of the jew pulling levers in some golem's head, I'd post it. that's you

Judaism came AFTER Christianity

this is retard level horseshit. then who was jesus supposedly fulfilling prophecies for?
it goes some bronze age polytheistic cult that contained yahweh, to monotheistic judaism, to reform judaism when the supposed messiah appeared, to counter reform judiasm aka talmudism. then reform judiasm has it's own schizm in the protestant reformation and subsequent catholic counterreformation. and now there are a hundred different sects from mormonism to jw's to whoever.
regardless, whatever preceded the advent of christianity was judaism, at least monotheistic judiasm

and yet he said that circumcision doesn't save you and the council in Jerusalem didn't say that it was required. look, i guess this is you hill to die on for whatever reason, but just know that nobody agrees with you, because what you're saying is false.

jesus was mutilated and chrsitians are told to emulate jesus. that's why christians are circumcised

Phimosis

Imagine believing desert genie fairy tales

you have no idea what you're talking about but argue on all the same. many such cases.

and yet he said that circumcision doesn't save you and the council in Jerusalem didn't say that it was required. look, i guess this is you hill to die on for whatever reason, but just know that nobody agrees with you, because what you're saying is false.

Yes, christgolems (non-jews) were not required by james and the elders to circumcise.
However, christjews (jewish christians) were required by james and the elders to obey mosaic law and practice circumcision. paul continued to observe the sabbath and circumcised timothy (jewish mom).
Why is this revelant?
Because Anon Babble is full of terminally online christlarpers that claim Europeans descend from the twelve tribes of israel.

Reminder: circumcision is only widely adopted in america, and even that is a recent addition. So all the Christian theologians, including protestant reformists didnt think it was a required religious rite for 1900 years.

Old Testament God is a character... borderline based, really.

In Luke 13:3, Jesus says,

I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Why do you still continue in your prideful sin?

Why do Christians still circumcise

Because they secretly aspire to be Muslim, some CNC type shit if you catch my drift ;)

we Christians of the world don't it's just mutt Christians who does so
none in yurop mutilates their kids