USA Won

USA Won

we're gonna tariff you until you give us what we want

*does nothing*

okay now we're REALLY gonna tariff you

*does nothing*

that's it, final straw, 1 BILLION percent tariff now tough guy

*does nothing*

okay, now i think we can finally agree to put down the tariffs and get along. if only you'd been so understanding from the beginning. chalk up another american W

Now China is getting the same 10% tariffs as the rest of the world. Previously, the tariff on them was 20%. The 10% extra were the "Liberation Day" tariffs, which all countries currently have under the "90-day pause".

I wonder who ends up paying the 10% extra.

My guess is no one, they just add it to their perpetual debt

Trump did manage to raise the average U.S. tariff from about 1% to about 22% and yet the market is where it was. 30% seems like a good number to lean ourselves off Chinkshit without entirely cratering the import sector.

So no jobs will be moved to US? 30% is nowhere near enough to justify it when the wages are 1/10ths

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(You)

30% seems like a good number to lean ourselves off Chinkshit without entirely cratering the import sector

Is this the new shill line? 30% do nothing or do you think chink workers only earn 30% less than you? It's a new sales tax that funds the 2017 tax breaks. If you're in the bottom 70%, trump fucked you.

Okay so now that we have 30% tariffs he will drop the federal income tax as promised, right?

we didn't want the factories anyway

Watch all the mongrels who have spent the last month and a half swearing up and down that they want to work in a sweatshop claim that it was a clever ruse all along.

This is unironically me. Let's just sleep for a few months and see what happens. It's really hard to keep up on a day-to-day basis because every outlet construes the information in wildly different directions.

The stock market is happy that trump caved. There was apparently a fear that he really has the balls to pull it off. But everyone should have known better. Like always, words only from him.

How is this winning?

Everyone said tariffs would tank the economy and markets, yet here we are, tariffs haven't been higher in 150 years, the stock market is fine, employment is growing, and inflation is webbing. Most importantly you're seething.

I run a drop shipping company and I had to lay off a few off the hispanic fellers who I employee as a job creator with this here tariff nonsense.
The sooner my president can get the tariffs down on the products the American people want, the sooner I can rehire those nice hispanic fellers.
Hell one of the amigos little chimchanga brings in burritos and sells them out the back of ther van. funny little people. but they work harder than any white man would for what we can afford to pay.

If you enjoy having affordable goods shipped to your door by hard working asians and hispanics then just say thank you for my american service and my american patriotism.

work hard like me and you too can be blessed by jesus
remember god blesses those who bless israel and the jewish peoples
shalom

Why, the US was winning hard, factories in China were closing in major economic centres, trump called their bluff and he was absolutely right, I guess this could be a good way of getting relief on US prices but if Trump really wants things to hit he needs to have the trumps slow ramp up to 100% from here on out and give companies months to move manufacturing out of China while they can.

So do you earn enough that the income tax cuts bring in you more than the new sales taxes cost you or are you masochistically inclined?

Chinks coming to the negotiating table.

Regulatory costs, round the clock production, basically zero safety standards, lower local material cost, etc.
Not to mention you don't have payroll tax on foreign contractors, which is close to 8% cut. I'd label that as just tax avoidance rather than labor cost, but you get the idea.
It's not just direct labor, it's all of the cost associated with labor in general that are lower

why doesnt Trump just round up niggers in work camps and make them make stuff
especialy ghetto welfare niggers
USA would take back millions of jobs from Chayna

get arm ripped off in machine

no lawyer to sue

no OSHA

no safety equipment

no proper training

no equipment manual

no health insurance

get organs harvested

video posted on LiveLeak

large nosed hand rubbing man give large bag of cash to politician

What does this mean for my computer parts?

My taxes will very likely be unchanged or go up slightly in the new tax bill depending on what they do. Still, the deregulation and tax cuts writ large will grow the economy.

all tech goes up in price

No trillions in tariffs?

It was never going to be trillions from just China. They only exported $400 billion to us last year. 30% of that means $120 billion a year in revenue for the US OR a return of some portion of that production.
And stop projecting your seethe on us you dumb fucking kike. You'd have to be an absolute retard to see this as anything other than a massive victory.

Compared to what is already was? Fucking hell, I was hoping this meant prices would drop a bit.

So you agree with me that a 30% tariff doesn't make the American manufacturing base competitive against the chink manufacturing base. Btw, all these regulations have a direct impact on the labor price and are considered constants in their zone of application.

Be Trump

Act like a retard, because you are one

Lose

thanks migatards.

These are temporary pauses in tariffs. 30% is the temporary floor pending a deal that addresses some of the regulatory and market access concerns. If there's no better deal presumably tariffs go back up.

The Chinese clearly know that cat is out of the bag, they wouldn't come to the table to discuss a relationship that is blatantly favorable to them unless there was real pressure to do so.

$120 billion a year in revenue

You really don't understand who will pay that?

exactly.
i fucking hate how stupid maga shills are.
they aren’t fun to debate with cause they are legitimately stupid and believe what Trump says. major daddy issues

ACK-tually it was never going to be trillions or return factory or any tax cut or even win the trade war

Lol lmao

I just taxed myself 30% instead of 140%.

I AM WINNING

Kek even
inb4 tariffs aren't import taxes. They are, nigger.
Trump caved, you lost trillions in just a week, lost allies and made sure china got more allies in the ASEAN, the EU, their exports to the rest of the world increased as did their market and is now working with free trade deals with korea, japan and the EU while (your country scramble to make a 10% increase in taxes for (you)rself as somehow a win.

He’s a retard.
It’s all smoke and mirrors.

USA lost

I'm not going to explain the logic behind tariffs to you again. Go be an "expert" somewhere else. Preferably not in my country. Which is every country, by the way.

What did we win?

which is every country, by the way

And he claims others are the ones coping
Another 10% tax increase

Tariffs on Chinks trippled from when Trump is in office, boomers investments are okay, and the Chinks are willing to rewrite their $400 billion surplus because of the pressure.

30% is not a tariff in this case. It is a sales tax. Better go back to flipping burgers, your life will be much more expensive.

it's not a tariff because it's not high enough

The sales tax bit is a DNC line from the Harris campaign.

You retarded nigger ape, Trump started a trade war with China to force Powell to print so he could refinance the debt. The Fed has been buying bonds, and not calling it QE. Gonna inflate it away either with or without the dollar.
Seethe.

inb4 after 4 years of him already being in the White House and doing this spiel where he infuriates and shocks everyone and then it turns out he was completely trying to do something else 4D chess, I can’t believe blompf has done this!!!!

He entertains and strokes your ego by making you feel morally justified as he acts like a cartoonishly stupid tycoon fucking everyone else over. The only card Trump had was tariffs and he deployed it correctly in order to force Powell to print.

If a tariff does not make the domestic industry more competitive or protect it, it is just a sales tax.

Keep in mind that the US' average tariffs on goods from China on January 20 were already 21% (source: Peterson Institute)

That is totally unproductive, there is a reason why slavery was abolished, you know? And it has nothing to do with humanism or liberalism. Industrial capitalism of the 19th century needed 2 things to prosper labor and consumers. Slavery was a problem in those 2 areas, first of all, because a slave does not win a salary by his work, and therefore he is not a consumer. Capitalism without consumers cannot exist. In 2nd place, the slave labor is extremely unproductive, and is only profitable when used in large quantities, the slave, individually, has very low productivity, since there is no incentive to produce more than the quota that is demanded, after all, no matter how productive it was, it would not receive any benefit. This was why the American Civil War occurred, it had nothing to do with the emancipation of slaves for humanistic issues, it was only the confortation of 2 economic models, in which industrial capitalism imposed itself

30% of that means $120 billion a year in revenue

Keep in mind that the US' average tariff rate on Chinese goods was already 21% when Trump returned to office (according to the Peterson Institute)

OR a return of some portion of that production.

Few are going to make a major investment decision to relocate production based on a 90 day temporary deal. If they do make such a decision, it's likely they will chose to relocate to a third country rather than reshore to the US

Perhaps this will help the trumptards understand but it would be a miracle for them to have a working neutron
We, my country, have a 7% flat tax on everything except food.
If i buy anything from a local store I pay 7% more
If i buy something from jewsa from amazon and i bring it here, I pay 7% more.
The 7% is an import tax.
By the trump trade deficit and tariff logic, we have a 7% tariff on them when we import something from them
But who pays? I already told you I pay 7% more.
Tariffs are just imports/sale tax on the client and they just increased their taxes by a flat 10% while claiming to be winning

Does the word temporary mean anything to you? This is not the final number. The negotiations are clearly about making structural changes to an imbalanced relationship or the tariffs go up. Besides other industries like autos and metals are covered by separate regimes. Even if this tariff is just a sales tax as you incorrectly claim, it's worthwhile as an excuse tax against cheap chink goods flooding the market.

Yeah trumps a fucking loser at this point, all he’s done is make America look even more weak than we already looked. It’s a good thing though, this zog shit hole was ruining the world.

It should also be kept in mind that a major part of China's retaliation to US tariffs was export controls, such as on rare earths. I've seen no reporting that China is canceling those export controls as part of this 90 day deal

Trump started a trade war with China to force Powell to print so he could refinance the debt

Very interesting. Trump appointed Powell in 2018 and escalated the trade war in 2019. Would fit. How does it fit in that biden upheld trump's tariffs?

pays zero attention

has no idea what's going on

assumes nothing is happening

"wins"

You faggots are incredibly dumb and gay. It's quite a feat.

This really is Trump's problem. The man can't help but chase headlines. There was a way to do this that could work to his ends, but no company is going to make an enormous years old commitment when the man changes his mind every couple of weeks. If they had plan to reshore from China now, then they are going to scrap those plans when they hear he just cut it down to 30%

everyone knew the tariffs weren't serious when he flip flopped the first time on them

with the tariffs at 100% China will be forced to negotiate

with the tariffs at 125% China will be forced to negotiate

with the tariffs at 150% China will be forced to negotiate

ok we lower the tariffs to 100% but it's ok! they are still higher than ever China will be forced to negotiate

ok we lower the tariffs to 50% but it's ok! they are still higher than ever China will be forced to negotiate

ok we lower the tariffs to 30% but it's ok! they are still higher than ever China will be forced to negotiate

MAGATARDS ARE HERE

ok we lower the tariffs to 10% but it's ok! they are still higher than ever China will be forced to negotiate

ok we lower the tariffs to 5% but it's ok! they are still higher than ever China will be forced to negotiate

ok we lower the tariffs to 1% but it's ok! they are still higher than ever China will be forced to negotiate

after removing the tariffs entirely, China requested to negotiate. TRUMP WON. ART OF THE DILL

it's worthwhile as an excuse tax against cheap chink goods flooding the market

But this will not change unless people consume less because it is too expensive. But that is the same effect that a sales tax could have.

making structural changes

He has just proved that it's not about that. What could lead to structural changes apart from making imports extremely expensive? There is nothing to negotiate.

Well which one is it? Are the tariff meant to make companies reshore or is it just economic brinkmanship that will be discarded at some point. This is why people hate dealing with Trump supporters; there is no plan or obvious goal. They just call even the most minor concession on the other side a win regardless of the cost of that concession. What is an acceptable Chinese deal in your mind?

Effective tariffs on China have gone from 11% at the start of the term to about 39% after taking into account this pause and sector specific rates. Yet the sky hasn't fallen as everyone has predicted, and the Chinese are at the negotiating table.

You’re a fucking idiot

nobody was affected by a 1 month pause nigger

the cope levels are out of this world lmao

It won't go 0 because that would be a 0% tax for the burgers. It seems the plan was to increase the taxes to a flat 10% and the retards are clapping for being taxes more

The 10% extra were the "Liberation Day" tariffs, which all countries currently have under the "90-day pause".

Canada didn't get this... hence it's not a country... hence it's the 51st state.

It all makes sense!

it's a MIGA cycle.

There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.

Warren Buffett 2006

They can do both. Trump, I am assuming, likes tariffs because he can impose them unilaterally and they are a useful tool for negotiations. I agree the implementation has been chaotic, whether that's by design or incompetence is too early to tell. However when you zoom out, tariffs appear to be part of a broader three-legged stool for the economy, combined with deregulation and lower taxes and fiscal discipline. I'm willing to give Trump the runway because it's the most coherent economic plan I've heard from a politician in about two decades. As "wins" and "losses" accrue on tariffs i think it's hard to make a full evaluation of everything in just a few months especially when the tax bill hasn't passed yet.

I want to give it time; but my main hope is Trump can grow the economy, incent critical industries back to the U.S. and cut prices. If he does all that I'd say it's a success but that will take years to evaluate.

Bessent and Trump gave up on America First, but the stocks will pump and Dems will be fucked.

you know what could bring back industries to usa?

cutting down all car regulations
why didn't trump start with those?

30% seems like a good number to lean ourselves off Chinkshit without entirely cratering the import sector

So what was the purpose of increasing it to over a hundred? And why is this decrease to 30% only for 90 days?

WOW ANON DON'T WORRY FOR SURE THOSE TARIFFS WILL BE PERMANENT IN 90 DAYS

So what was the purpose of increasing it to over a hundred

Populism

And why is this decrease to 30% only for 90 days

Populism

The rate was initially set at like 36% and China retaliated so the U.S. countered. The entire liberation day ploy was to get countries to the table on trade. China retaliated so they got to save face, but were functionally where we were in the begiof April.

He has cut tailpipe emissions and is going after California which pretends to be a national emissions regulator.

cutting down all car regulations

How is this supposed to bring the industry back to usa?

Because left and right is a bullshit dichotomy perpetuated by central banking cartels? Gamergate proved that this is how they do it, they pervert both sides of the host nations domestic politics with bribery and then when they’re in complete control they shift conversation from economic topics to bullshit tabloid type topics with fake controversy meant to divide you on the dumbest shit, it’s parasitic by nature and it’s exactly how the nazi’s described.
Kikes don’t care about either side, the Bible tells you flat out that Satan uses Hegelian methodology to subvert your expectations of his character and masquerades as a savior to a conditioned world. Trying to parody God.

Aside from the implications of what I’m suggesting, these people are just as dumb as the pundits on your favorite news outlet. They’re all being used just in different ways. You may not think it connected but it does.
It’s possible for Hitler to be right about Jews, but still wrong as a sinner no less than them. This isn’t something man can fix by himself, eventually the kikes will help create an automated government system that makes Chinese shit look like preschool. And then it will turn on them.

This isn’t something man can fix by himself, eventually the kikes will help create an automated government system that makes Chinese shit look like preschool. And then it will turn on them.

That's what happened to them with the internet. I wouldn't be surprised that their downfall is because they are cheap and haven't considered all the possible outcomes.

US lowered China tarrifs back down to 30%

MIGA tards like pic related STILL don't know how tariffs work and who pays for them

INB4 Twitter post

That's the problem, too many of these retards LIVE off of what's on X and social media instead of doing their own research
We are literally back to pre-Liberation day levels, so this entire shit show was for nothing

China won the trade war
and China won the air war poo

and yet the market is where it was.

Check out the dollar

Picrel cannot be a real person.

strange non-sequitor which seems designed to obfuscate, confuse, muddy the water

If you actually believe the gospel, you’ll see religion for what it blatantly is. After it having conspired to having Jesus killed, (the first and most obvious hint) it’s a gatekeeping, controlled opposition and strawmanning expectation of what God wanted to subvert your understanding of the law.

Satan needs this grift conflict between athiest and religious people to survive so that he can introduce a false unity between 2 groups of people that are actually one in a false dichotomy. Neither believe the gospel so both are unbelievers no matter what the religious people do. As long as religion exists, Satan has something to hide behind that he can use to bait hatred towards God and slander him using idiots diddling kids and killing others. Using optics (yes it’s that gay) he can then subvert the worlds expectations and make you think you have to merit everything being you were born into a world that makes you have to work for everything (scientifically this is because of entropy and this is precisely what god cursed man with in the garden after the apple fiasco)
This, because of man’s condition of knowing right and wrong, primes man into thinking religiously, trying to fix his own problems rather than simply relying on God. This is why shit is fucked up, believing the gospel mitigates going to hell. Which as you can tell by recent events, the global situation is falling apart in all categories. It’s about to get real.

1 Cor 15:1-4

China does not do anything, and keep winning, why?

China does not do anything, and keep winning, why?

Because industry is king.

Now I'm remembering all that empty talk about how Trump would bring industry back, and destroy the Chinese economy. Kek.