Its been over 3 years now
Are they even trying?
How can they be this weak?
They've havent even taken pokrovsk yet
I mean...its just fucking pathetic
Its been over 3 years now
farts in your thread
thanks for seething
Even the USA took 1 year and 10 months to occupy Mexico City...
Rome wasn't built in a day
And building Rome was easier than defeating the full force of NATO narco-Zelensky jewish neo-nazis called Azov "Occidental" aka the false Church of Babylon
The takes some people have on this war amaze me. The U.S. controls information but Europe and Auzlandia must have some oldschool iron curtain shit up.
Putin took the areas he wanted from the very beginning. He never claimed to want to conquer Ukraine.
Crimea gives Russia access to the Black Sea/Med Sea and beyond. Extremely important. The other areas were the Pro-Russian/Russian ethnic majority.
Spiritually, the areas taken were all Russian Orthodox as well.
These three years exist because the West likes never ending wars for obvious financial reasons. Putin just holds the line and drains the veins. A lot of political theater as well. He's never giving back the land he's taken.
It's been 11 years Anon...
Automated spam bots
Look at the spacing, different ids, seconds apart
Very suspicious
More so:
Ukraine was a Soviet land. The utilities are soviet. They have the blue prints. You see that with them running through empty gas lines and blowing up various things.
El Put could go full scorched earth but he's trying to avoid triggering a full on European autistic melt down. Demolishing Kiev, destroying all power/water/utilities and making 10's of thousands of people starve to death is not a good look and would just justify Western aggro.
You really have no answer do you faggot?
I spotted your op bro
Its over, its done
Another lame low effort poster. Why even make a thread if you don't wanna discuss faggot.
Putin took the areas he wanted from the very beginning. He never claimed to want to conquer Ukraine.
Oh, so he donated roughly a fifth of his entire armored corps to Ukraine in the failed blitz on Kyiv and flew entire battalions of the VDV into certain death at Hostomel (and, funnily enough, the sea) just so he could fall back in disgrace to the minimum viable defensive lines? I'm not sure I buy that. Putin invested his best-trained and -supplied troops into the Kyiv blitz at the war's outset. The blitz was an objective failure despite the massive investment and there is no good evidence that Putin was merely pretending -- just a prank, bro! The actual, physical operations support the idea that he meant for the operation to be a quick, decisive decapitation operation (hence having his state media tell Russians the infamous "three days" line) that horribly failed because he surrounded himself with incompetents who surrounded themselves with incompetents upon incompetents, etc.
Russia failed, im just curious as to why they failed so massively
No one in high command knows what exactly they're doing, so they keep sending conscripts to the frontline and hope it will blow over, luckily they have time on their side so they will surely win unless someone directly intervenes
Yes exactly. He drew their entire armed forces up to defend the capital and took the southern region near instantly. Easier because a lot of it was already actively fighting to leave the Ukraine.
The northern side was brutal but it gave time to build the now impregnable defenses which has led to this never ending meat grinding. Doubt he expected the North to be as crazy but it is what it is.
Queue cleaning out the prisons full of his countries murder/pedo/poopi rapies. Give them to a 3rd party mercenary company and dangle the carrot of freedom. Blam, throwing thousands of people no one will miss into Ukraines most elite soldiers. A grinding series of battles that took out Azov and the other hardliners. Mariupol, Bakhmut etc. Now Ukraine is stuck kidnapping 40 year old pizza delivery drivers and 20 year old women to fight. Protip: They're not doing very well.
Funny take, thanks for the laughs. Russia has been pushing balls deep into the razor wire for a good 2 years now, with Ukraine holding the trench lines. Of course you’d consider it a brilliant strategy to pursue bloody offensive manoeuvres only to make sure you can do it again.
Are you comparing war from 1800s to modern warfare? How long did USA take to occupy the capital of Iraq? THEN how many more years spent fighting guerilla? Russia is not even at the stage America was in a week with Iraq, once Russia managed to conquer Ukraine (in like 20 years), THEN comes the 20+ more years of dealing with Ukrainian guerilla. This war is a failure in every way, that theyve wasted this many resources, manpower, all for a tiny piece of ruined land in eastern Ukraine, is so pointless
3 years
5 million ukrainian females fucked off to europe
1 million ukrainian males dead
you can expect another 1 million ukrainian males wounded severely enough to be disabled
another 6 million ukrainian citizens of occupied territories are now russian subjects
ukrainian debt almost doubled despite receiving hundreds of billions $ in aid
ukrainian mineral wealth rights all granted away for free to US private sector
"but why isn't russia winning even harder than this? ukraine is doing pretty well all things considered"
mega cope
why have you fled the tanks thread?
Yes exactly.
... what?
My point is that Putin demonstrably wanted and tried to take Kyiv. In this attempt, he invested the very best of his armor, the vast majority of which was not destroyed but CAPTURED by Ukraine. The VDV essentially ceased existing in the weeks and months following the invasion -- they were the equivalent of 75th Ranger for Russia. It's like if we invaded Mexico, sent the entirety of the 75th airdropped to capture Mexico City's main airfield as we pushed with at least three infantry divisions from three different axes of advance and ended up falling back to Tijuana... from which we declare that we never wanted Mexico City in the first place. Just to draw it out a little further, our position three years down the line would be that the Mexican Army is currently flying drones and bombing LA, Houston is enduring constant artillery strikes, and we have had over a million casualties (over two million if you want to extrapolate the population differences proportionately). Oh, and last year Trump assassinated Elon Musk by having his personal plane shot down after Musk's private army, stationed in fucking Starbase, TX, started marching freely to Washington prompting Trump to get on the next plane to Dubai.
No one in their right mind would say that our war was a huge success and that we obviously only wanted TJ... because no one was ever able to directly quote Donald Trump saying that he meant to take Mexico City.
It's farcical and completely detached from reality to pretend otherwise.
Bro they banned counter-media in your lands. The European's view of this conflict blows me away.
It reminds me of old boomers who only get their news from our talking head/Jew media like Fox or CNN. "Ah wow the Hero of Kiev must have been a great fighter pilot." "Russia is FINISHED! They sent in German Leopard Tanks. You know Germans make great stuff." "Putler pooped his pants! He's dying Anon!"
It's so fucking embarrassing. How is losing a bunch of land and not being able to take back any of it / losing all of your young men and women winning? Surely the EU will join hands with the Avengers, Harry Potter and the Jedi to defeat this menace and we'll have beautiful gay pride parades and synagogues on every corner soon. Two more weeks and Puzzia will fall!!!
It's just embarrassing now.
thanks for seething
OP is ukrainian with a VPN
Whether he wanted to quickly take it or not does not matter right now. He controls the entire southern region and Ukraines only access to the black sea. Ukraine is physically incapable of taking back the land. This entire circus only continues to go on because the media is blacked out, Zelensky is propped up by western money/toys and mercenaries. Ukraine is NEVER getting back what was taken from them.
I am OP bud, first time on Anon Babble?
trust the plan
Auzlander anon is a transexual zoomer. You can tell by how estrogenized and low effort their posts are.
That is an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT ARGUMENT from what you initially proposed. The literal idea I'm refuting is that Putin only wanted to capture the Donbass and whatever other token territories he now controls. I'm happy to keep talking with you, but I'm going to need you to explicitly concede the point and stop treating me like I was born yesterday if that's something you want to do.
are you fucking retarded, nigger?
Anon I get what you're saying but I disagree on your assertion he wanted to take Kiev and finish this up quickly. MAYBE he did but it's not tracking with his armies moved.
Yes he did send a huge wave to the north and you claim they were his elite troops. Paratroopers and conscripts in vehicles is great and sent a scary message but where were the resources put in? Where are the defenses? What has happened since then?
Putins not a retard and while Russia was/is corrupt, they're still crafty. Especially with how corrupt Ukraine is/it's closeness to Russia. They knew what was there, rolled the dice.
My assertion is, if they truly did want to take Kiev it could be done but only by truly destroying it. This would trigger Europe and others into feeling justified with invading. People die in war and I think Russia made a sacrifice with a greater goal in mind.
Anon I get what you're saying but I disagree on your assertion he wanted to take Kiev and finish this up quickly. MAYBE he did but it's not tracking with his armies moved.
You have no clue what you're talking about. I've already addressed this specifically. Are you just skimming, or is there a communication breakdown somewhere?
The reason is that they're fighting other Slavs. Anything beyond Ukraine and Poland would crumble within a week.
Probably a lack of understanding Anon-kun. To summarize though, I am right and you're wrong.
their goal isnt to win - its to kill of as many white men from both countries and get as many indians to replace them
there's absolutely NO REASON for this war other than putin and jewlinsky (both kikes) wanting to kill white men and put black cock into white pussy
holy cope kek
Hmm. I thought that they were fighting NAFO mercenaries?
*sniffs*
You think I'm approaching this from a pro puccia position? No kek but the truth is that countries like Slovakia, the Czech republic, Denmark, Hungary, Romania etc would stand no chance if they weren't part of NATO, which is why they joined it in the first place
The takes some people have on this war amaze me.
proceeds to spew up straight up russian propaganda
damn son even for Anon Babble standards thats a new low
The whole argument falls apart when you consider the oreshnik. Russia has the means to completely level Kiev without nuclear weapons and there isn’t an AA system on this planet that could stop them. They demonstrated how easy it would be last year. Then again these are the same people who genuinely think Russia planned to take Kiev with 50,000 troops and mysteriously retreated after Russia and Ukraine met up in Istanbul for uh…reasons.
What is their plan? If they wanted the country why haven’t they been strategically knocking out the infrastructure? Take out a few transformers at a switchyard and some water pumps and everyone in Ukraine would leave because they have to. Then come in and slowly fix it up and you have Ukraine.
Its been over 3 years now
the whole NATO army in Ukraine has been destroyed by one country
how can they be so weeeeeeeaaaaaaak??
Russia failed,
while passing Japan and Germany in GDP / PPP.
en.wikipedia.org
OP is a pathetic pine gap faggot.
Russia hasn’t even targeted politicians, the Rada continued to assemble and Russia made zero attempts to stop them. The United States heavily targeted Ba’ath party headquarters in Iraq along with destroying all infrastructure.
Check with your fellow troons on discord and get your story straight.
In this attempt, he invested the very best of his armor
newsweek.com
A video of broken down and rusting Russian tanks in the center of Kyiv has gone viral as a testament to the failure of Moscow's invasion to seize the Ukrainian capital.
How's the weather in Pine Gap, cunt? Crazy how subshitmericans cannot comprehend that in a war fought in a built up European nation you can't just go in massacreing civilians because you're too fucking lazy to have any patience.
And this is why we look down on subhuman animals like shitmeriucans, so do us all a favour and fuck off back to niggerville you cretin.
capturing kyiv would've ended the war in march 2022 and spared 3 years of death, suffering and economic instability, the only reason why that didn't happen is because russia did a huge strategic blunder.
now russia is stuck fighting to capture empty fields with no value in donbass, pour billions of rubles, send men in their prime to die off, and for what exactly? 20% of ukraine? a strip of land that compared to the rest of russia is a spec of dust? was it really worth it?
why so salty, pidor?
did your superior officer open your gaycunt without lube again?
hehe he actually wanted to lose therefore he won
Actually following through with the peace talks that took place at the time would have ended the war as well. No one expected the Ukrainian government to act this suicidal, for no good reason too. That's why the 15th May date is symbolic, that's when the 2022 Stambul talks ended.
Zelensky reneging on negotiations back then only to renew the talks now is just an all around loss for Ukraine. They decided to escalate and fight a war over fuck all, there was really zero reason for the war and now they will show up in a worse position. Spoiler: only to not agree to end the war, again.
war is literally capture the flag
Are you serious now, nigger?
When did I ever suggest that the best Russian armor was good armor? From the starting point of "shit," there will be things which are still more or less shit, even if it all seems like a big blob of garbage from a perspective which understands "good" as the baseline kek
They decided to escalate and fight a war over fuck all
First, it's hard to "escalate" a military invasion as the defender. From the point at which you roll tanks across the border and air assault the capital's biggest airfield to build an air bridge, you are arguably already maximally escalated. The only further escalation from there is nuclear war, and Ukraine can't do that (which is why you invaded them kek). It's strange how you believe that Ukraine, who you invaded with your military, is escalating a war for "zero reason," as if the basic assumption is that Ukraine had some kind of duty to simply allow Russia to depose its government and replace it with a patsy.
you are arguably already maximally escalated. The only further escalation from there is nuclear war
leave it to a mutt to turn every conflict into a total war
There is no such thing as a limited war. There is only strength and resistance.
there very much is. This is why the western media tries to psyop the masses through repetition into believing that the current war is somehow full-scale.
no limited wars
so this is the best GayTO can do in terms of supplying their proxy force?
ouch
They are holding back out of respect for their slavic brothers, once Ukraine capitulates the real forces will be deployed and push HATO straight into the Atlantic. (Ziggers actually believe this cope)
The "peace talks" where russian demands where unconditional surrender, coming off the back of their embarassing thunder run on Kiev that ended up in full on retreat? Their position was terrible, their demands could not be seen in any other way than muddying the waters for retards like you while fully intending to keep the war going at all cost.