Abrahamic Religions are all Fabrications

All of them borrow from earlier times. Or it exaggerates stories, turns things supernatural, people get deified after death etc. It is like building lies on top of lies.

Abrahamic Religions: Origins and Fabrication Points

Judaism
Earliest version was henotheistic, not monotheistic (YHWH was one god among many). Baal was worshipped there 500 years earlier!
Torah likely compiled during/after Babylonian exile (~6th century BCE).
Stories of Exodus, Abraham, Moses may have been:
Inspired by existing Mesopotamian myths (e.g., Enuma Elish, Epic of Gilgamesh).
Invented or exaggerated to forge identity in exile.
Archaeological evidence does not support a large Exodus, conquest of Canaan, or united monarchy under David and Solomon.
Earlier Jews living on Elephantine Island make no mention of Abraham Moses etc. All are polytheistic there.

Christianity
Built directly on Jewish scriptures, but with reinterpretation.
The earliest gospels (Mark, Matthew) were written decades after Jesus’ death, with theological agendas.
Paul's letters (older than the gospels) transformed Jesus from a Jewish apocalyptic prophet into a divine cosmic figure.
Borrowed heavily from Roman mystery religions, Zoroastrianism, and Hellenistic philosophy.
Heaven, hell, resurrection, virgin birth all appear in earlier religions and myths.

Islam
Claims to be a restoration of pure Abrahamic monotheism.
The Qur’an incorporates:
Jewish and Christian stories, often with altered details.
Elements of pre-Islamic Arabian culture, including jinn and tribal codes.
Muhammad’s role as the "Seal of the Prophets" gave him unquestionable spiritual and political power.
Qur’an compiled after Muhammad’s death—some parts likely edited or selected under Uthman (~20 years later).
No witnesses
No miracles
Was illiterate.

Early Islamic conquest spread religion rapidly—often by military and political expansion, not spiritual revelation.

How do billions of people buy this bullshit?

Ok but could they still be useful idiots for the right wing? Or are they dead weight?

No Original Texts Exist
All Abrahamic scriptures are copies of copies, edited over centuries.
The earliest fragments of the New Testament are 100–150 years after Jesus.

No Contemporary Records
There are no Egyptian records of the Exodus.
No Roman record mentions Jesus during his lifetime—only hearsay decades later.

Borrowed Myths
Flood story = Sumerian origin (Gilgamesh).
Virgin birth, dying/rising god = found in Osiris, Mithras, Dionysus.
Paradise, angels, Satan = Zoroastrian dualism.

Religion Evolves Over Time
Early Judaism had goddesses (Asherah), sacrifices, and local altars.
Islam evolved politically; early Meccan vs. Medinan verses show changes in tone (peaceful militant).

Fear and Submission Themes
Sin, hell, unworthiness are core to obedience.
Rulers use religion to legitimize power (“divine right”, caliphates, kings anointed by God).

Science Has Never Needed Religion
No religious text predicted germ theory, gravity, evolution, atoms, etc.
Moral systems can evolve without divine threats (see secular humanism, Stoicism, etc.).

I didn't say I didn't believe in a god or something divine. I think anyone can be divinely inspired but we are all mortal men in a massive universe.

To the mods if you find this not appropriate please dont delete move to x or something. Trashing religions though is pretty politically incorrect.

Also if there were a choice between all religions for the most peaceful and the best one to choose it would definitely be the Christians even though it is also a complete fabrication the message is probably the best.

We must fucking destroy the intolerant christcucks and what they did to us for 2000 years: Their civilization was shit and Im so fucking happy we left it and now have freedom to do whatever the fuck we want and no cunt god to tell us what to do or anything!!

Is this you?

Paul's letters (older than the gospels) transformed Jesus from a Jewish apocalyptic prophet into a divine cosmic figure

Paul's original letters don't mention anything about Jesus being God. That's why the synoptic gospels don't mention this either because they used Paul's letters as source material. Jesus doesn't become God until a couple decades later, when new letters are forged and new stories about Jesus are written.

So much effort by so many hateful people every day to shill against Jesus Christ (the only one they really hate), that is what should make anyone on the sidelines suspicious. This Roman world hates Jesus Christ because He is the truth.

For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

2000 years later...

Suckers still being born every second.

Also all the "additional" material that was added later claiming to be from Paul is what brought in the "resurrection". There never was one.

How do billions of people buy this bullshit?

The majority of people are low-IQ, fake, soulless chaff. They have no value and make life difficult for the minority who aren't sheep.

they're on average better than atheists
but they'll always be the foot in the door for kikes

Not hate, love for you people being fooled. Trying to help you see the truth. The only way to find any truth is to look at all sides. You have been drinking the coolaid. I was Catholic half my life and the other half I spent looking at the history and boy what I found is eye opening. I can guarantee you that you have not studied as hard from all angles to see the truth.

I understand though. Most people do not want to have to think for themselves. They just want to be told what to do, what is right. So go ahead little sheep.

There is a 60% chance that you're brown.

You are brainwashed. Real men don't believe in imaginary friends.

Christianity is 1000% zio compromised today
There are no churches that appose Zionism NONE

Moral systems can evolve without divine threats (see secular humanism, Stoicism, etc.).

Yeah, but it all would be meaningless if there is nothing to fill the gap of humanoid quest for serving something greater than them, which is why hirarchies have formed, why everyone and their mother have claimed their reign as a divine right ro rule, because all of them believed they serve something greater, and because of this there were people who became scientists eventually, even at the cost of directly opposing the religion's opinion on something.
All worship of divine beings are meant for the people to fill the void of wanting to serve something greater than their own flesh and bones.

I dont think you want to see a world without Jesus, and the "sheep" whom you call suckers.

I dont think you would like being in that place.

No, they are not useful

It's disturbing how man people have a desperate need to be subservient.

You worship a cow.

Shalom, Moshe

Japan is a pretty nice place. Less crine than the US/South America, which are majority christcucked. Also monoethnic, too.

Also, you sound like a low IQ ESL spic monkey.

You worship a kike, spic.

they're on average better than atheists

Not right-wing atheists. All the bad shit in the Republican party - all the nigger and Jew worship - mostly comes from Christians.

Christianity is extremely queer coded and the job of a priest is literally to lie to people, so the church will always be a rotten underbelly.

I dont think you want to see a world without Jesus

It's less about Jesus and more about opportunistic cretins who claim to be all about Jesus making shit up and selling it to the masses. No pun intended.

And if you think this world is visibly on track, you might be one of them.

Do you believe in Santa and the tooth fairy too?

Calling me a kike when you worship a kike tribal diety and hold up a dead kike from 2,000 years ago as your messiah is rather hypocritical, don't you think?

It's disturbing how man people have a desperate need to be subservient.

Yes, only few humans could live their lifes without actually needing to serve something greater than themselves and that is mostly due to their higher understanding of how the world works, the reason why it's disturbing is because this is the kind of need that is like a double-edged sword, it could help you fullfill that need but at the same time the fullfillment of this kind of need could absolutely kill you under the right circumstances.
This is why i'd say that even political ideologies could be viewed the same as religions, since both function as a stopgap for the humanoid need for something greater to serve.
If we take all of those and put it into a coherent number, considering that ideologies are modern day religions, atheism at it's purest form can never exist.

Wew. Cow worshippers already in the USA. I thought most were in Canada. Lmao

Christcuckoldry is literally just liberalism by another name, holy shit.

Japan is a pretty nice place.

Last I heard their population is dying from work and not enough procreation.

You can still love Jesus even if people dont do what he says.

Last I heard their population is dying from work and not enough procreation.

If you saw economic conditions in japan, you'd understand why.

You beaners literally have the same average IQ as curryniggers, AND you worship a kike.

Worshipping a cow is unironically better than worshipping a kike.

I have a proposal to you. Become a marcionist and stop worshipping the jews. You'll get to keep all the Jesus crap and as much as I dislike it, it won't be a political threat like Paulinism.

Jesus said no one can serve two masters.

better than worshipping a kike.

Last time i checked, don't the catholics have too much sun symbolism as if they worship a sun god?

Yahweh is a chaos serpent though.

Santa is real, unlike jesus.

Modern Santa depictions is mostly based on Saint Nicholas

Can't source a single claim

All fields

Marcion had it right if only had his true works

You are a fake pagan. Tell me about what you know about pagan worship in viking sagas, fucking christcuck!

thats why every apostle who was a friend of christ while he was alive rejected him right?

whats your name brave pagan warrior

im jacob anthony mcqueen and id like to grant you access to Valhalla

youtube.com/watch?v=4An4oR035j8

Thanks for the rundown ChatGPT

With money. Who is perfect?

If they are are pissing people off for being politically incorrect and inflammatory then it stays

Who is perfect?

Are you telling me you're in no position to judge others?

ll be honest I'm not his biggest fan

You are a tough critic. Were talking about Jesus here, miracle worker who died for his friends. Luckily he can take criticism.

literally go through the archive link i posted how many threads even is that? its pages and pages of primarily just threads that i participated in that got yeeted to bant and its an incomplete list as one 72 hour period i sent so many "antiabrahamist generals" to the bant dumpster through right argument the mods pretended they "Accidentally" deleted the catalogues of several boards including bant to get rid of the evidence i dont know if those deleted threads even show up in the archive it looks like they didnt but it was over fifteen minimum

Jesus said judge not that ye be not judged

Kek

All the miracles were typography. Fake and fabricated by a lot of high people

the kike yapping is so fucking vapid

So do it

Maybe you are just an asshole

Did I judge?

the kike yapping is so fucking vapid

I thought i was the fucking kike.

politics.anonbabble.com/
oh there is no maybe about that

this is a kike shill working to cover the mods dirty laundery just read our convo

If they’re borrowing from earlier religions, doesn’t that mean those earlier religions are then contained within the abrahamic sects? If billions of people, through the ages, all agree on certain aspects of faith, does that not lend even more credibility to the abrahamic religions and their offshoots? I’ll be honest, I’m retarded, but I don’t quite get the point of the thread.

No religious text predicted germ theory, gravity, evolution, atoms, etc.

Because religion tells us this whole physical reality is nothing but an illusion - literally the matrix. But built by who? That is the question.

i dont know you yet i just got here, i see your flag, do you hate the lord jesus christ?

He died for his friends, we agree on that?

Well duh, life is a fabrication in and of itself just like everything contained within it.

I don’t quite get the point of the thread.

He wants to change the religion to something that would fit the local geography and nature of things.

Finally a good argument. I think great minds think alike and just like we all see dmt machine elves there are archetypes. People write similar experiences and knowledge.

Or just trying to expose people to the truth, that the majority of the world is under the spell of a bunch of bullshit

i dont know you yet i just got here, i see your flag, do you hate the lord jesus christ?

No, i specifically don't have an opinion on jesus besides the fact that he changed the course of history by teaching the people teachings which will eventually become christianity.

Fuck you Yahweh is the only true and real God! And Jesus Christ is king of kings

Or just trying to expose people to the truth, that the majority of the world is under the spell of a bunch of bullshit

Bro, the majority of the world ended up with abrahamic religions mostly because the Roman empire had the best infrustructure for the spread of on.

the world is under the spell of a bunch of bullshit

Careful heathen, youre starting to sound like jesus (thats okay)

Historically almost every vision in religious experience, can be summed up by drugs

right wing values originate almost entirely from the christian bible thats just a historical fact

the majority of right wingers as a result in the west are christian they identify as christian

the kike shills would have you believe they are worshippers of SOL or Neoplatonkton or whatever nonsense, that they hate jesus christ but just happened to peace meal somehow in their homosexual pagan circles an exact replica of our right wing beliefs which stem from the values in the christian bible by pure coincidence and that is why they are here

its bullshit they are kikes they are here because they are paid to be here that is why they are here EVERY DAY its their fucking JOBS

than i will simply call you "jew" for now you have yet to reveal yourself to be a full blown "kike"

Go to any town in Europe or America and you’ll find a church. How exactly does that mean that Jesus is hated? Seems like they shill the absolute fuck out of him and want you to be christian. Heathenry on the other hand is deemed “Satanic” and evil. Anyone can see this.

A lot of people over the course of history I’ve taught a lot of great things, profound visionary things that have inspired millions of people. It does not make them a god.

christianity is a very useful slave religion, very possibly even better than islam in that regard. the ruling class allowed it's spread because of this

Go to any town in Europe or America and you’ll find a church. How exactly does that mean that Jesus is hated? Seems like they shill the absolute fuck out of him and want you to be christian. Heathenry on the other hand is deemed “Satanic” and evil. Anyone can see this.

yes gods people his white chosen people love him naturally it is our nature to do so, but the kike establishment over us clearly seeks to turn us from christianity to atheism or paganism

hence every major blockbuster of the past decade just about featuring THOR in a fucking key role

Yahu was one of many. A jealous hateful diety.

the seat of the west was christian for over a thousand years and in that time we had strong borders, homogeneous countries, strong families, little to no homos, and we fought wars in jesus holy name

Truth

right wing values originate almost entirely from the christian bible thats just a historical fact

The vast majority of the bible in christianity comes straight from the Tanakh (תנ״ך - Torah, Nevi'im (prophets), Ktuvim (scriptures)), and the new testament is the addition to the tanakh which made both the holy bible, which is why in israel every christian MK is sworn with both the Tanakh and new testament.

he is jealous and hateful and so am i

i guard gods flock JEALOUSLY and i HATE the enemies of god who would lie to them and lead them into destruction

which is why ive spent the last year trying to get my hands on even A ONE OF YOU

im jacob anthony mcqueen i live in michigan here is my face, if any of you antichrist kikes are nearby and would post a timestamp of your face and a name i will give you a location to meet me TOMORROW or at your earliest convenience so we might "talk" about this in person

the ruling class allowed it

Did they?

Yea a jew named Stan Lee (Liebowitz) decided to turn pagan gods into super heroes to make them seem like fantasies. This wasn’t to promote heathenry, it was to make it seem like a joke. You’re not bright.

than i will simply call you "jew" for now you have yet to reveal yourself to be a full blown "kike"

Oh, thanks?
Historically all of europe and america are christians because of one guy and his teachings, which btw, never refrained from self-defence. You can look up scripture to find out Jesus was preaching for self-defense, even if you need to sell your clothes for equipping yourself for the task of defending yourself.

The vast majority of the bible in christianity comes straight from the Tanakh (תנ״ך - Torah, Nevi'im (prophets), Ktuvim (scriptures)), and the new testament is the addition to the tanakh which made both the holy bible, which is why in israel every christian MK is sworn with both the Tanakh and new testament.

yes i am aware of the existence of the old testament, you must be aware that even by the time of jesus ministry you mongrels were so badly mongrelized that you were literally incapable of acting like abraham and jesus called you on that right?

37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

The only real good thing put together in all of the old testament are the 10 Commandments. Everything else is just borrowed material. And even those commitments are borrowed from the Babylonians.

Truth

More like a fact, because if not for Rome, most likely no religion be spread unless somehow jewish and christian teachings would still find a way to arabia.

Historically all of europe and america are christians because of one guy and his teachings, which btw, never refrained from self-defence. You can look up scripture to find out Jesus was preaching for self-defense

he preached for more than self defense

"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me." luke 19:27

youtube.com/watch?v=TeIFoA8jIt4

So are you a polytheist or a monotheist? Which one do you worship?

jesus called you on that right?

i'm aware of that, and mostly the mongrels were among the pharassies and saducees.

i worship god and he is ONE

"I and the Father are one.”

Have you looked into the Roman Piso family, and the true author ship of the New Testament? I don’t buy all of it, but it does make sense.

The gospel is advocating for any religion

inb4 my religion isn’t a religion

Right, like atheism isn’t epistemologically unsound and isn’t entirely a faith based position because you don’t need faith for evidence to prove something doesn’t exist.
The atheist position requires more faith than Christians. Religion is the biggest satanic strawman you people have, as it’s actually funny that kikes do not seem to understand that Jesus was not only hunted by priests, so were virtually all of his followers.
Your arguement is based on a lack of faith that it is true, but reinforced by faith that it also isn’t. It’s not according to knowledge or certainty that you disbelieve the gospel because some of you appeal to rationalism, so evidence is actually an indication that you don’t actually know if it’s true or not. The need to appeal to an audience is suspicious for atheism because there’s no reason to appeal to one if the evidence is overwhelming. But again, you don’t and can’t force anyone to believe anything regardless if you have evidence or not.

Atheists and agnostics do not spend their time incessantly arguing over thing they do not believe, which is why everyone on this board already innately knows that it’s made be zealous kikes who already know that Jesus had nothing to do with their religion, and that atheism/religion would effectively be the same thing to the God of the Bible from a position of faith. Abel and Cain pretty much foreshadow the difference between a believer and a religious person. Meaning any attack on religion is a red herring, a strawman and it’s designed to slander God while disparaging people from seeing what’s actually overwhelming evidence for the existence of Satan, and because of that, indirect evidence of God.

Cope. Your biggest strawman is now direct evidence for the devil and because of it, evidence of God. That any “secular” faggot can physically see with their eyes.

my mistake my friend i particularly appreciate what you are doing

any man regardless if his background can exhibit the fruit of the spirit

Europe doesn’t need foreign golem religions. Fuck Yahweh and his son.

ackshually Christianity stole everything from other religions!

kek imagine actually believing this.
Zeitgeist came out in like 2008 OP. People realized how dishonest it was about 6 months later.

we dont need no name no face "pagan" pussies yappin all the time
give me your name and face as i have done all year and i would give you a place to meet me.

you never would

Hail Zeus, The Enemy of Yahweh. You big Jew Worshipping homo.

meanwhile true Europeans love Jesus

im jacob anthony mcqueen if you are in the michigan area give me a timestamped face and your name and i will provide a location you could meet me tomorrow

and we could settle between christ and zues like men

They’re in the Judeo Matrix. They don’t even know it. They don’t want to be unplugged because it scares them. If McQueer was honest with himself, the reason he has meltdowns on Anon Babble is because he is afraid that his faith in that jew religion is failing.

Exactly.

If McQueer

you kikes make the same threads everyday and you act like the newest of new fags completely forgetting the refutations to your arguments from the day prior and the day before and the day before

and yet you always recognize me you must not be so new as you pretend

enough of the yappin! the gauntlet is thrown down pick it up

Hahahaha, Jew Golem ready to die for the Jewish God. You are a pawn in their game my friend. A literal Golem. Christians to the Lions.

PUSSY

Agreed. Fuck this Bronze Age barbarian bullshit. I'm so tired of being forced to "respect the faith" of these fucking freaks.

The Jews are just a creepy inbred clan with religious OCD. Christ preached an apocalypse in his own lifetime, but he was clearly wrong. Mohammed was just another Arab warlord, but with schizophrenia. ALL of this shit is stupid.

fabrication or not, I love sharia law.

No miracles

what a shit metric for a religion lmfao

Early Islamic conquest spread religion rapidly—often by military and political expansion, not spiritual revelation.

that just makes islam more based.

wow, that was very specific

ex conservative

ehehehehehhehehe.
Nothing funnied than a brown ex-tory

FLAG>I'm so tired of being forced to "respect the faith"
if you would provide your name and face with timestamp i would give you a location to meet me and we could both be just as disrespectful as we please

Heathenry is returning. Theres nothing you can do about it. You’ll join us when the time comes. You’re the pussy.
youtu.be/6O3U_RxpuDU

...tell me something, if God doesn't exist, why do we keep seeing signs of Satan?

You’re the pussy.

but im jacob anthony mcqueen

AND WHO MIGHT YOU BE?

Suck my cock, you Abrahamic dumb fuck. Go worship more Bronze Age demons. Try Marduk next, faggot. This is all bullshit and in your heart you fucking know it.

Suck my cock, you Abrahamic dumb fuck.

and who might you be? provide a name and a face with timestamp as i have all year and i would provide a place we could meet, how can i suck your cock if i dont even know who you are?

are you shy? are you scared? whats that smell?

youtube.com/watch?v=hdlUvjT1JII

go fetch your largest mamzer canaan i am BORED

We should tell the $oyniggers to slap hooknoses onto their jewhovahs

Christkikes are so fucking retarded kek

you should literally find amongst your ranks even one of you who if they would not be willing to meet me would at least reveal their identity as i have and be your champion

so far christians are the ONLY people willing to say it with their chests, and that is an objective fact

borrowed

forgery

reinterpretation

fabrication

Every ancient culture that ever was tried to understand God on their own. The fact is they lived in a time closer to creation than we did.
Original text in this case cannot be dismissed as lack of evidence for say the existence of Jesus or the Exodus. Surviving texts are evidence enough and must be treated so.

secular humanism

Moronic contradiction. Humanity has no worth without God. Akin to valuing excrement.

heres a fun fact for you

how many holy books from ancient history like the bible were preserved all through time and not "lost" and "rediscovered" hundreds of years later?

the answer is none, the bible is the only one, they will say the hindu veddas fit the bill but for much of its supposed history it was ORAL tradition.

the bible is IT

From the article on the Elephantine papyri:
The Elephantine papyri pre-date all extant manuscripts of the Hebrew Bible, and thus give scholars a very important glimpse at how Judaism was practiced in Egypt during the fifth century BCE,[10] as they seem to show evidence of the existence in c. 400 BCE of a polytheistic sect of Jews. It is widely agreed that this Elephantine community originated in the mid-seventh or mid-sixth centuries BCE, likely as a result of Judean and Samaritan refugees fleeing into Egypt during the times of Assyrian and Babylonian invasions They seem to have had no knowledge of a written Torah or the narratives described therein.
Also important is the fact that the papyri document the existence of a small Jewish temple at Elephantine, which possessed altars for incense offerings and animal sacrifices, as late as 411 BCE. Such a temple would be in clear violation of Deuteronomic law, which stipulates that no Jewish temple may be constructed outside of Jerusalem:31 Furthermore, the papyri show that the Jews at Elephantine sent letters to the high priest in Jerusalem asking for his support in re-building their temple, which seems to suggest that the priests of the Jerusalem Temple were not enforcing Deuteronomic law at that time. Cowley notes that their petition expressed their pride at having a temple to Ya'u (no other god is mentioned in the petition) and gave no suggestion that their temple could be heretical.
Upon first examination, this appears to contradict commonly accepted models of the development of Jewish religion and the dating of the Hebrew scriptures, which posit that monotheism and the Torah should have already been well-established by the time these papyri were written. Most scholars explain this apparent discrepancy by theorizing that the Elephantine Jews represented an isolated remnant of Jewish religious practices from earlier centuries,:32 or that the Torah had only recently been promulgated at that time.

You can still love Jesus even if people dont do what he says.

I have mixed feelings because what he *said* was imperfect. He compromised with earthly beings instead of relaying revelations directly.
t. here to try to fix things and not compromising

Which version of the bible is better?

in other words they made that shit up after it was supposed to be 1000 years old. Russell Gmirkin has done the most textural analysis of anyone I've seen and pointed out where the judean priests got the stories. picrel.
Jesus being of the line of fictional David is a fictional character himself.

google it the time for yappin is over

Oh shit it's McQueer hahaha

Oh cool.
Time for the 6 millionth "Christians told me not to put stuff in my butt and I'm still seething about it" thread.

who are you?

Weird you can't answer that McQueer

The medieval Church in Europe was Abrahamic in name only. All the icons used were of pagan roots and carried those spirits forward, Even though using different names. Different names for these deities we're already employed regionally. Brigid, or Freya for Mary, etc. Basic subversive fundamentals of New Testament principles were ignored in favor of white ethics and warring. I have no problem with anybody that subscribes to that version of the church. And it needs to make a comeback.

i could and i have and you know what my answer is but as i said from the start of this thread im not really interested in the yappin anymore and i layed out my reasoning

will you pick up the gauntlet?

All the icons used were of pagan roots and carried those spirits forward

wrong. The masses were kept dumbed down and the hidden or occult aspects were kept for the priests and elite.

i could and i have

You can't and you haven't

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