How are you fighting against globohomo?

people with your fag meme flag always have the worst posts

melons need a constant high temperature. the nights here are too cold. melons need like 25 degrees and above all the time forr the best growing conditions. I can only grow them in a greenhouse here sadly.

Meat is of course the most important part of the nutrition you are right. but some plants are good too, mostly fruits are very good for their water content. the water in fruit is very purified and caries energy (sugar)

tomatoes are fruits by the way. so are pumkinsand zuchhinis. which are very easy to grow.

i have chickens and fruit trees. i only have plums and peaches so far. my apple, pears and nectarines have not made fruit yet. i do have wild persimmons, grapes, mullberries and blackberries. tons of blackberries

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Start stealing and become a burden on society. First thing you should do is quit your worthless wagie job. Don't bother applying for benefits, welfare or any other government assistance unless you really can't help yourself. I personally prefer to also GHOSTMAXX, no properties in my name, no hand outs, no benefits, no taxes, just living in the shadows of society and outside of the system as much as I can, but I digress. Simply take everything you need from big corporations, resell it and enjoy life. Hit their jew warehouses and megastores and become an honest reseller. Make sure to post about it and encourage more people to become burdens like you. Once enough people do this, their system collapses. Also always remember how over half the population got vaxxed and sided with the government? make them pay and enjoy it too. This is how you get back at the jews, the governments, the corporations, the normie cattle and everybody else who wronged you.
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There is nothing more that jews and their wagie cattle fear than you anon getting ahead in life, never forget that.

i am sorry sar but good size melons i am finding everywhere no matter temperature at night.

I'm not, I'm playing their own game to gain as much wealth as I can to fuck off suddenly and unexpected one day and never be seen or heard from again.

i have cherokee tomatoes under a small growlight. how tall should i let them veg before i can plant them in the final container which will be 15 gallon fabric pots

The seeds are so fucking tiny it's a pain in the ass to not accidentally plant them in massive clusters.

carrots are planted on the spot you aren't supposed to put it in a pot and then replant them. same with salads and a few other foodcrops. beets also really don't like to be moved. you plant them directly where you want them when it's the right time. beets survive winter by the way so you can let the small ones grow. they are 2 yearly plants

yeah perenial plants are best. fruit trees and the such. I also suggest getting blue berry but they need very sour soil.

many berry bushes are great to plant. just plant once and harvest 50 years.

from vegetables I prefer pumpkins and zuchinni easy to grow.

i plant the seeds in rows similar to the onion pic. i over plant and then come back and thin. dont over plant to much or it will just be a mess.
the pig breeding operation is doing good

i wish i had enough space to do those things. I have to wait until bitcoin hits 200k then i can buy a million dollar homestead farm

asap

i put my tomatoes outside when they are 20 centimeters tall.

Where is bitcoin now?

i planted 8 fruit trees this year
i may not see fruit this year, or next year, but in 4-5 years i'll be glad i planted them

got it. do you plant deep or shallow?

based pig breeder

deep

good work, anon. i also grow a significant portion of my own vegetables. i forage for wild berries and catch fish in the summer, harvest shellfish in the winter.

im not dealling globohomo any deathblows but i am enjoying better, higher quality food year round.

this year, I am expanding my garden efforts to plant some trees and shrubs for fruit in the future.

I have almost 90 trees but the weather has been terrible for the past 4 years and the trees have grown nothing but vegetation. Every spring when the trees start to bloom, the temperatures suddenly drop foa week, usually a hail hits as well and that is it for any fruits.

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Excellent stuff.
I'm in the process of setting up my own food via gardening and poultry. We just had our water tank installed last month and we're looking at solar as well.

plant em a bit in a pit then giving water is easy. tomatoes need a lot of water.

i work at a hotel and i goon on all the freshly made beds and coom on all the clean towels and fold them neatly back on the rack

many have unknowingly wiped their face with my semen and rested their heads on my ass sweat

carrots are planted on the spot you aren't supposed to put it in a pot and then replant them.

Good to know, I was thinking maybe i'd do little seedlings in a tray (with like tweezers or something), then once they'd sprouted a little replant properly, but I guess any root vegetable probably wants those roots to not be fucked with too much. My huge oafish hands and tiny carrot seeds just don't get along.

beets survive winter by the way so you can let the small ones grow. they are 2 yearly plants

Yeah I learnt this the hard way, planted some 30 year old beet seeds (which did amazingly well) my family had and wanted to collect a bunch of seeds from them, naturally I didn't do enough research and didn't realise they were a biennials until they were edible, so now i've got a bunch quardened off until they seed next season. Best beetroots i've ever eaten though.

i over plant and then come back and thin. dont over plant to much or it will just be a mess.

Yeah I ended up with a bit of a mess, just clusters of little munted carrots. I was basically dropping pinches of seeds into the holes, then really didn't thin them out nearly enough after.

Extremely jealous of the soil and greenery you've got going on, my property is entirely beach tier sand and it hasn't rained here in 9 months so it's all rainwater tanks and wicking beds. Not mine, but similar to pic related in both sand and setup.

i make blackberry jam and wine, i really do have unlimited blackberries, yesterday i chopped down and burned a huge patch that was in they way
what kind of trees?
chickens are super easy, mine forage 10 months out of the year so they are cheap too

yeah they are still a bit small because i decided to try planting tomatoes kind of late this year but they should get big in a big enough container right

I don't have the following

social media

streaming services

credit card/ credit / loans of any kind

a car

I'm also planning to switch to linux, I already use many FOSS alternatives.

We just had our water tank installed last month

Just bought another 10,000L, drought has made them cheap as fuck, just hoping it actually rains enough during winter to fill them up kek

Extremely jealous of the soi

picrel is my native soil, i amended my garden with top soil and rotten wood i gathered up out in the woods. it does not rain in July and august here and im dependent on my well. i want to make a big pond to use to water though.

onions are for sheep

learn to cook you fucking retard lmfao

ok eat seed oils and plants, post your ass cancer when your 70

We're STILL getting rains up here in the north, it's unreal.

i dont have any of that either also do not have a computer, just a $39 straight talk phone. i dont even have a google account or email so i cant download apps

Carefully preserving draught horse breeds for the inevitably collapse of society.

onions are digestive assist for meat
you eat meat and onions
meat is food

plants are supplemental, and not food

horses are a money pit unless you have a use for them

Annual gardens are such a drag. Even using a tractor they are still so tedious. I did a big one a couple of times and had enough of it tbqh. converted to perennials and fruit trees about four years ago. I put in about 400 feet of underground line on my fruit trees and now I can just flip a switch and water them. Prune them a couple of times a year and watch them grow. I dont even use the fruit very much other than making some wines I just skirted them up single stem so it just looks nice. Only other thing I grow is sugarcane and I always end up with more of that than I can even use. I dont even know why I do it honestly.

Truth be told I spend most of my time transplanting wild seedlings and bulbs and stuff from the woods these days. I had a grape vine but deleted it last year because I realized there are more grapes in the woods than I could ever pick and they require no labor.

Almost like I have the infrastructure for horses or something.

sounds like youre a lazy person

What breed Are those chickens? And how many do you own? I have 5

those are barred rocks, i own 7 i you include the chicks i hatched out a week ago

Oh man yeah that is some tough rocky shit, i've been piling on the mulch, chicken, cow and horse shit and just composting like crazy in a few areas to make a good pile of soil, looks like you have your work cut out for you as well.

i want to make a big pond to use to water though.

I'm working on something similar here, but rather than a pond a massive artificial aquifer, basically a fuck huge concrete wicking bed the size of a swimming pool but in the ground, layer in the rocks, cloth, then dump good soil on top. Can't really have water sitting on the surface here or it all evaporates. But if I can scale a wicking bed right up to the point I can work it with a rotary tiller I should get a lot more out of it then just working little beds by hand.

Classic Aussie start to the year, fire, floods, droughts, sometimes all three in the same place. Driest it's been here in 40 years or something, meanwhile record flooding elsewhere. Bit of a wake up call.

Had a donkey from the bush wander in and make himself at home kek, bit of a character but a top tier guard dog with the other animals.

Kek to the contrary I have too much to do and not enough time. 10 miles of firebreaks and lanes to keep clean. Firewood to split. God knows how many miles of fences to keep up. Too much landscaping to keep up (my own fault). Numerous barns and structures to keep up. It's a constant struggle just fighting back the creep of cherry laurel alone. I do all this plus a full time job.

You have to pick your battles.

have you looked into a food forest where all the plants you want grow together symbiotically and you dont need weeding?

Next year lay down a weed barrier then cut holes in it to put the onion sets in, leaves you with more time to curse the jew

using cash for everything

im not into any of that shit, at all. i am surrounded by people doing that and back to eden and every other internet trend and every year i produce more doing it the regular way. too each their own but i just want to put a seed in the dirt in straight rows and put water and practice crop rotation and amend my soil and things like that. gardening is a poor mans hobby

i sprout onion from seed and am anti consooooooomer gardening. pulling weeds calms me, i like to pull them all and makebit look perfect

don't need weeding

Doing that is easier on preserved native forest, not in we made all lumber and just planted pines forest

Ohio? WV? KY? Good place for it, good luck with your homestead.

Thats nice. How many acre or Area do you own?

Doing that is easier on preserved native forest, not in we made all lumber and just planted pines forest

i live in a native hard wood forest, mostly oak and hickory with some elms, elders, cedar and a few pine trees. everyone has black walnuts on there land but me, i cant find one

It wont be enough anon. Its never enough. 70 plants is not even enough.

If you like keeping poultry you can have turkeys there

What most people don't realize is that native edibles are few and scarce and they eat half an acre of land in a month

The absolute state of Soil niggers.

Yeah I'm growing fruit trees because I'm lazy. Got fig trees, pomegranates, peaches, and a blackberry so far. Id rather invest in fruit trees, to pay me interest in food. Duck money

i grew 14 last year and put away 6 months worth. my growing season lasts until oct usually
getting a fig tree is high on my list of things to get

What region are you in?

Tucson, AZ, usa

When I started with plants a long time ago I started to get into figs but figured out pretty much everything you buy has FMV. And I've got some heirloom figs that are probably uninfected and decided not to get any close to keep the heirlooms clean.

As I got more and more into stuff I gravitated towards native. I had a row of citrus by that point and they are producing well now and are mature, but if I could go back I would have planted something different. The more recent rows I did were Chickasaw Plum, Mayhaw, and S. Crab Apple and a number of them I transplanted from the woods.

I have a hummingbird nesting in one of my fig trees right now.

Idk what fruit trees grow native there. If I was you Id go with a bunch of Pecans tbqh.

Hummingbird eggs are so good when you deep fry and put them in chocolate.

Figs, poms, peaches, apples, cherries, grapes, pears.... So many things can grow here in the desert.

No I mean what grows there native. Im sure in that climate pretty much anything will grow there if you pump water too it and it doesn't require frost hours.

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I have a hummingbird nesting in one of my fig trees right now.

We've got a century old fig tree, thing is so huge I could probably nest in it. Amazing tree, feeds probably thousands of birds and makes great jam.

Jujubes, pomegranates, persimmons and loquats will all grow really well in the desert as well. Persimmons are especially great if you have a serious sweet tooth.

I am in the deep SE. Persimmon grows wild as one of the primary and most virile pioneer trees- its almost a weed to me. They are very fast growing and interesting trees- technically related to the ebony trees I think and you can tell if you look at the heartwood. Interesting gnarled looking branches. Reminds me of a young blackgum alot. When it rains the bark looks almost pitch black sometimes and in the fall, once defoliated if they are still holding persimmoms after the rain it really looks like an orange and black gnarled halloween tree. Spooky almost.

Anyways the fruit isnt great for consumption until it is extremely almost overly ripe. It is inedible until it falls from the tree and begins to get mushy on the ground. At that point yes they do taste good but there isnt that much flesh on them. They are mostly wildlife mast. Deer and racoons etc. love them and good luck getting to them before they do.

Also apparently the leaves make a good tea. I was not overly impressed with it though.

Mesquite trees produce pods you can grind into flour. Saguaro cactus produces fruit. Prickly pear cactus produces fruit, and you can eat the cactus pads (nopales). But anything you want to grow big and flavorful you need to water.

I always gravitate towards native but I guess in some places it's a little different. We actually have something here called eastern prickly pear thats fruits and I find them in uplands quite a bit- but I've never messed with the fruit too much.

Like I said though if I was in Arizona I would go Pecan. Technically probably not native but I know they grow alot of them there too. Here, Pecan orchards are big business and a mature grove can be beautiful. They are basically just a variety of hickory tree. Truth is from a looks standpoint I'd rather have a hickory you just dont get the pecans.

Yeah my mom has pecan trees they do very well. The desert has lots of native foods/fruits but you can just go out into the desert and harvest for free if you want. No need to grow it yourself. Dates do very well here too. I have a very small yard so I don't have much room left for more trees.

I see. In a small area, I would be very inclined to grow some of these desert type flowers if I was in that region.

Everyone is different, and this is a much much different type of landscape here. It is a wall of festering green trees, vines, grasses, weeds, and everything in between most of the year.. but If I could go back about eight years ago and give myself advice, I would say "dont worry so much about fruit- plant native hardwoods and flowering trees and spring ephemerals."

how are you fighting against globohomo?

I stubbornly keep my 21 year old pickup running by doing the maintenance and repairs on it myself and refusing to buy a new one. I've done some gardening before but it's a lot of freaking work for marginal return if you don't have a sizable plot. Also my climate is horrible for it, before modernity and large population here the only agriculture people did was cattle ranching, which is telling. Tomatoes and hot peppers are fairly doable though, and taste way better than the store. In general though I think most preppers would be better off stockpiling canned or otherwise preserved food now while it is abundant instead of sinking a bunch of time and money into gardening. With even a low paid job if you sank $20 a month into cans you'd stock up pretty quick.

The only thing I really "prep" is salt and mason jars kek. Generally I dont believe in prepping though I just love plants.

I have almost 90 trees

thats a lot! i dont think i can fit that many on my acre

I planted potatoes and a few other things but used up most my space for the potatoes.

Lol, potatonigger

Generally I dont believe in prepping though I just love plants.

that's the right attitude for gardening I think

Persimmon grows wild

Insanely jealous. Do yours fruit when they have no leaves? I don't know a whole lot about them.

Only thing that grows wild here is gumtrees that like to spontaneously combust and shower everything in liquid fire.

They put on fruit before leaf drop but generally carry the fruit until well after leaf drop most years.

The best of the major wild fruits here probably go in this order based on quality:

wild grape

dew berry

blackberry

mulberry

wild plum

mayhaw

passion fruit

persimmon

crab apple

wild vaccinium species

The ones that are easiest to harvest in huge quantity are wild grape, dewberry, blackberry, persimmon, and mayhaw

I'll have to give a few of those a shot here, we've got pretty similar climates I think and I can never have enough to keep all the lorikeets and possums fed. I haven't come across mayhaw's before. They look great for birds.

I don't recycle cans and bottles. I just fuck them out. I evade tax. That's about it.

Mayhaw isnt table quality- to me it tastes like a tiny more floral underripe apple. Like the part of the apple near the pit. However it makes probably the best jellies and things like that which are highly sought after here. The tree grows slow, and is slow to produce. The like water but contrary to popular belief they dont require being in standing water. The reason people associate them with standing water is because those places dont burn and mayhaw cannot take fire. Their biggest issue is that they are subject to cedar-quince rust a fungus that spends half the year on juniper (in this case eastern red cedar) and the other half on Hawthorne and quince. So they will be weak unless you plant them far away from any cedars which can be a problem here because cedar (actually a juniper) is a common wild tree.

I find it interesting because if you look at the fruits out there from the old world, these are fruits that have been cultivated and modified to produce table quality domesticated fruits and most plant families are represented. However there are alot of plants in the new world that have been basically untouched and never "maximized" so to speak. Now, as it currently stands there is no table-quakity fruit of the Hawthorne family. Mayhaw is the closest natural one to me and I would be very interested to see what it would be like if it was "maximized" and domesticated. You would have something truly unique. Paw paw is a similar situation.

Make sure you have multiple sub-species of fruit trees. Some self pollinate but others require pollination, so have as many different varieties as possible or they won’t produce fruit.

Hydroponics and soil are both great methods. You can regenerate and create your own soil and compose which isn’t as easy w/ hydroponic nutrients.

As a side note you will have a hard time getting your hands on mayhaw over there. I generally just get mine from the woods. And apparently Australia has no Cedar Quince Rust yet but are worried about it because it could damage their apple industry or something. So idk I probably would stay away from the mayhaw even IF you could get your hands on them.

i got the right pollinators for all of them. they are on their third summer, i think they just need to get older, hopefully. they look really good but havent bloomed ever

What type of apples? I have some Granny Smith, Pink Lady, and Fiji Apples. They all produced fruit our first year but they were already somewhat mature trees. I’d say 1-3 years old, so maybe it’s normal like you mentioned. Love what you’re doing. I’m doing the same!

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Nice garden anon
I only get 170 to grow so I'm a bit behind

Having grown both, outdoor mogs indoor.
Indoor is great when you want tiny plants that are easy to flip.

Good read, we need a farming/gardening/homesteading general so we can keep track of all the good info. And yeah I might give them a miss then, they might need more water than we've got, like less fire than we have, and our bio security control is insanely fucking hardcore.