Can we have a good faith discussion on hypergamy? Are women justified in desiring and excluding themselves to the 10% of men?
Good faith hypergamy debate
Are women justified in desiring and excluding themselves to the 10% of men?
it's not a matter of justification, it's just biology
NO.
Because looks are NOT the foundation to build a family upon.
dudes a total piece of shit loose, but looks HOT
I'll choose him
WAHHHH why am i a single mum with 10 abortions
womens decision making needs to be removed. they've proven they cant handle the responsibility.
we are NOT bugs or Bacterial, FAGGOT.
Our society requires much more nuance, to remain a 1st world.
Zoomercels it's over.
The incels won't work or pay taxes no mo
Incel tranny thread.
Biology says we should kill people, rape their wives, and bash their kids head in the ground. I’m not sure you want to live according to monke rules
No pussy no work is powerful enough to crash the whole system. For that reason i support it.
So the male loneliness epidemic is more that older guys are getting all the zoomer girls and less that all the girls are dating the same top percent of men. So the solution is to just focus on your career and then start dating an 18 year old in your 40s.
no it doesn't.
Let's have a good faith argument instead about whether women's whoredom should be punished by beheading.
Anon, you look so much different. Did you... take a shower?
this is what normalfags actually believe
of Madonnas and whores.
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Most everyone would or perhaps are in the process of dying out because you can't convince beta men to actually contribute anything to society without pussy. Most chads won't survive this either. its literally some survivalist chads who can farm enough to support a family who survive it.
These cunts only barely have a place any more than the chuds they reject. They are dead without chuds.
it...its over
Good faith is irrelevant if it results in abysmal reproductive inefficiency
Fortunately, industrial society can easily solve it forever through impersonal engineering and readily available infrastructure.
Specifically, by putting women into barns, where they will be bred and milked to the full extent of efficiency granted by human Zootechnics, and then unceremoniously disposed of with a pneumatic needle when their bodies are spent and unproductive.
Women are retards. Picrel is retarded.
That is what our closest relatives do. Most people in jail for murder are there because they slaughtered a rival mate. You’re spoiled by civilization as you tear it down
Let's have a good faith discussion instead about whether whored should be beheaded as punishment.
Are women justified in desiring and excluding themselves to the 10% of men?
Seems a bit unrealistic don’t you think, OP? The solution will come from zoomer males continuing to return to traditional values which will make the culture more modest and grounded in reality. The females will follow suit shortly thereafter. Men build and define the standards for the civilization. Women raise the next generation that will meet those standards. That’s the qrd on the psychology of the matter
Are women justified in desiring and excluding themselves to the 10% of men?
Yes, but they are not justified in expecting the other 90% of men to pay for it in taxes and pretend jobs for women.
Yes they are just practicing natural selection and eugenics. In this capacity as the sexual selectors, they are based as fuck. Strict monogamy is the social redistribution of women from high achieving, biologically fit men to inferior men. It is a disaster for society
That doesn't bother me; what bothers me is I have to pay for it with my taxes.
That is exaclty how immigrants should be treated.
Yes they are just practicing natural selection and eugenics
This shit has been debunked already moshe, get new material.
Building a family is not evolutionary successful compare to mass rape and harems. So again the women’s biology is correct
Strange. I’ve never encountered any biologically fit males having trouble having sex. Women are horny as fuck and so are men. Having sex is the easiest thing in the world to do. Your strongest hormonal urges push us to it. If you can’t have sex then biology and evolution have righteously ruled your genes out of the pool.
hoe_math has explained this completely. go and watch
Dating aside, the problem is mating. We still live in a more or less monogamous society, so while all the women may aim for Chad only one will get him, which means the others will end up tatted up whores who never have children. The incels who dont get any should consider themselves lucky because they should still have their dignity while the women are jumping off a cliff trying to get the mythical Chad who honestly is out of their league anyway. Selling their souls so to speak. Its sad for the incels and the whores but I have to feel worse for the whores because they put everything into a play which fell short, whereas the incel just had a lot of free time and presumably got really good at painting or something.
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Yeah it does, before civilization the other 90% of men would just forcefeed the other 10% their intestines for hogging all the pussy and take what they're rightfully entitled to. The whole purpose of civilization is that 10% compromising with the other 90% so everyone gets what they wants, the 90% get to have sex/children and the other 10% get to keep their intestines inside their bodies.
I found dating and finding the right person is easier after 40. What isn't easy is finding someone without tons of baggage. I really wouldn't want to date an 18 year old at my age (45). I've got a sweet Christian gf (41) and neither of us have been married, had kids or been total sluts. Yeah we have probably left it too late for kids but that isn't what this thread is about. I don't know what is causing the male loneliness epidemic but I'm not believing that 99% of women only want 10% of men because I'm not seeing it. It sounds like a myth perpetuated to demoralize young men. I see unattractive people happy with attractive people and average people happy with other average people. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Ugly peoples shouldn’t breed. Monogamy and nuclear families are social constructs. I’d rather have a more primitive less developed society full of gorgeous people instead of our current abomination. Being ugly is a sin against nature. Spreading ugliness doubly so.
how is that a solution when theres more men than women under 50 in each age range (by 500k each time adding up to 5 million)
populationpyramid.net
there will be even less gen beta women than gen z due to declining birth rates
it will still be multiple old men competing for the small amount of young women aka hypergamy as they will pick the best one.
unless we have polyandry and harems of men for each woman
No, and they don't. All women want to date the top men, all men want to date the top women. Nearly all women want a man they have a kid with to stay with and support them, which means they'll go with the highest they can get which is typically their level +/- 1. All men would fuck the top women but most women won't fuck men 2 or lower than they are. This generally results in like with like and all the whining about hypergamy is retard tier bullshit from stupid fags who don't leave their room.
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no one would care, if they'd just shoulder the consequences of their actions by themselves.
if I decide that Becky isn't good enough for me and only Stacy will do, and thus end up alone, that's my own problem. no one will give a shit, no one would listen to retarded lobbying from my side, and no one would compensate me for the consequences.
but when women do it they get stuffed full of gibs like a turkey, lobby to raise the age of consent or mage age gaps illegal, get on fucking everyone's nerves and so on.
you are allowed to make whatever decisions you want if you also assume accountability for them.
if you act like a child and throw a tantrum every time you are faced with the consequences of your actions, then you should not be allowed to take any independent action.
Building a family absolutely IS more successful than mass rape harems.
Assuming you don't go down the route of throwing pregnant women into combat; When a war starts between tribes, countries, people... whoever can gather the largest group of men usually wins.
If you have marriage, you can do this because every man has something to lose, and supports the society because the society supports him.
For a harem, most men are basically trying to assasinate the current alpha, and so; When an enemy tribe arrives, they're much more likely to break ranks..
ie. Evolutionarily speaking marriage is a better system as it keeps it's adherents more powerful than opposite systems.
Your's is made of soi, we aren't the same.
Absolutely not.
Women are NOT as horny as men. Why the fuck would they be. For most of human history, a woman has no say in who has sex with her. It's just who rapes her first / prevents others from raping her after.
Given this kind of system, why the FUCK would you ever evolve a sex drive?
How many kids did women have who had a really powerful sex drive?... The same amount as the women who hated sex.
There's no evolutionary benefit to it.
Men on the other hand, if you don't have a sex drive, you're extinct. other men will happily fuck your looks match too, along with their own if you won't fuck them.
This is true, the other imbalance is, if you're born ugly as a woman, nothing can be done to fix it.
Guys can atleast get rich,
This is the kind of woman men want
I think there's like a scientific graph that describes this very well, it's like the 'somewhore gap' or something.
Where monogamy from an ugly guy is worth some fixed amount and if a hot guy can provide polygamy, thats over that amount then it pays to be the alpha's whore over marrying the betacuck.
It stops white women from racemixing so it is good
This graph is ultra interesting. I will explain, because it took my retarded ass a while to get it.
The vertical axes is "how good is it for the female" measured by how much her genes spread in following generations.
The horizontal axes, is basically "how hot the guy is"...
Now as we can see, the blue line is always above the red line. So it's always better given EQUAL male, to be the sole wife of that male, rather than share him.
BUT.. for any given male on the blue line. can find an equivalent point (in terms of vertical height) on the red line.
This is the 'breakeven chad' value. The idea that being YOUR sole wife.. is equivalent reproductively speaking, to being chad's 2nd wife.
Anywhere more on the right of this breakeven point... you are MORE succesful being chad's second wife, than being a normal guys first wife.
Again we define success by gene propagation. So; by being chad's second wife, and then getting cum dumped and pregnant with his kid... the kid's chad genes will carry him further than the beta husband's monogamous provider ability.
ie; Given a certain level of positively developed attractive bone structure, that's worth more than actually looking after your kid and educating him.
Your kid would be better off reproductively speaking... to be raised in an orphanage as the son of chad.. then raised in a loving home as the son of an average guy.
good faith lol
a good faith discussion is requested on a bad faith societal trend.
How is that data even possible? Dating requires exactly 1 man and 1 woman so the percentage should be the same.
I'm 2 of the men on the right. I don't know who Taint and Amach are. Incels aren't real. I choose not to rape every day.
Women have sex regularly here with men way out of their league no strings attached. It's called a "situationship" and all these women consider themselves single, because they don't actually have a boyfriend who does anything for them, they just have a chad that sometimes calls them over to have sex, and they immediately obey. Then they hit 30 and start crying that men are all pigs.
older men are preying on younger women, moreso than ever because the internet makes it easy for an 18 year old girl to meet a 25+ male, whereas in years gone by there wouldn't be so many chances for older men to meet teenage girls
being unattractive to opposite sex is the most reliable evidence that you're a genetic dead end and as such shouldn't have human rights at all.
Anon Babble has a lot of so called National Socialists. National Socialists recognized inherent human biological inequality and acted accordingly. The Germans began experimenting with non monogamous procreation for the highest quality men. Select SS men could have access to Lebensborn women for breeding which would not conflict with any marriage that man might be in. If only the had more than 12 years they could have bred generations of gigachad warriors.
Can anyone present a logical argument why the genetically unfit should have equal reproductive access as the genetically fit? This concept applies equally for men and women. Many people make this argument to explain why mass suffrage democratic voting doesn't work. Why should the dumbest and most depraved have equal political power as the more intelligent and more virtuous?
Eugenics is the path for future human evolution. It appears only the Chinese are willing to experiment with eugenics. I wish them good luck.
Cope incel. You should have gotten your dick wet.
Unfathomably based
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Some Asian mutt thinks women should dictate who has rights and who doesn't
No wonder you live in such a matriarchal shithole
pretty much. scum of the earth. Beatings are too good for them.
fixed
then explain the female orgasm
Are women justified in desiring and excluding themselves to the 10% of men?
Women have a shopping mentality.
If many women are after "thing" it must be good. Better get it before the other harpies sink their claws in "thing"
If "thing" is sitting there undesired, something might be wrong with it. Better scrutinize it, it might be too good to be true.
I remember how many women flocked to me once my then gf (now wife) hooked up and had a stable relationship. Before that, nobody would even give me a second glance
Yes, women are justified in ignoring 99% of men and wanting only me.
This should clear things up.
holy based
I want to believe
I'm a literally nazi and I fucking despise most women.
I've fucked 3 figures.
Be hot and masculine, don't put up with stupid shit. You'll get women. Women have no fucking clue what they're talking about, what they think they want and what they feel they want are literal opposites.
That is all.
Be a man. Fuck a white women. Start a family. Fuck kikes. That's literally ALL that is required of you.
yes, it's natural eugenics
if women had bad instincts we would still be hanging from trees
being king makers has always been their duty
BASED
good instincts
every successful society subjugated them and society completely collapses under 100 years of their liberation
I'm sure it's just all a coincidence and we wuz all kang makers
just burp cum into smelly holes
It's about two generations of women being rendered completely fucking unwifable
The only reason this kind of hypergamy exists is because men are too retarded to share quality pussy the way women share quality dick