Masculinity has been perverted by our media...

Masculinity has been perverted by our media. Being an ideal man really just comes down to being rational and calm when under pressure. Instead, media tries to make it seem like you can't be considered a man unless you're tall, ripped and basically a gay caricature. Not only does this sort of thing not actually appeal to that many women, it suggests that masculinity is just about aesthetics and nothing else.

gay guys dont appeal to women

Oh lord its a retard underage thread.
Youre too young to be posting here, Sport. You need to go to bed. You have school in the morning.

Not only does this sort of thing not actually appeal to that many women

Ummmmmmm yeah.

And guys don't like fit thin girls but prefer butterballs too. Mkay.

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never heard the song "I wish I was queer so I could get chicks"

Why do you think Japs even did visual kei? Why do you think Motley Crue existed? To be gay?
No. To get laid. By women.
Women like men who look like they walk on both sides while still retaining internal masculinity. It's a balancing act an uggo like you will never be able to understand or achieve.

I like fat chicks.
Shut up if you dont.

Ew. And gross. Barf even.

I already rubbed one out. I dont need to see this guy till this evening. Spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.

It suggests we live in a One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest matriarchy and positive make characteristics are designed to make women happy
and nothing else.
Testosterone makes you aggressive and angry
constantly.
Constantly.
It's a fucking drag.
Ranting and raving and being that fucking upset 24/7. No thanks.

There's more to it but I don't care to get into it. Public used to shame idiots. Now, there is no "public "
Public is controlled by the same nog culture that's encouraging groups of apes to slap your daughters ass in front of you knowing you'll die if you say anything
Etc
Or girlfriend's

It's a jungle.
It's African.
Look up the incidents of exactly what I describe happening, happening and the guy and up dead defending his girlfriend's ass
Lol.
So you now have to travel everywhere like we're in Kabul or some lawless shit hole.
It's prisonyard mentality, but supposedly outside the prison walls
Open air,
Etc etc etc.
Just think of Richard Brautigan in the 1980s. Abbie Hoffman. Think of people who lived through the 60s and really thought a revolution was going to take place.
And then the fucking 80s and Reagan. Lol.
And Iran Contra and.. yuppies.
And yuppies, anon.

Read marcus aurelius and then contemplate why his son turned out like such a piece of shit. If you dont know who these people are or why any of this is important and you never think about rome you arent even woman tier. You are like a pigeon.

The OP likes fit men, he's a closeted queer, boy, everyone knows you burn donuts

it suggests that masculinity is just about aesthetics and nothing else.

Lol. Chuds are very feminine in their complaints.
Media oppresses us! Unrealistic standards are microaggressions!
Did you freaks get a degree in Chud Studies?

American gender laws mean men weight minumum is 200 anything less is female and too easy to rape/too cheap to drug

When did you become a 2010s SJW? Is this Manita Polkeesian?

You guys sounds like bitches complaning about unrealistic standards, that's a feminist playbook classic.

Nigga we love big titties bitches in our game, can't complain about jacked dude but also want attractive females.

You aren't refuting anything I said.

Gamergate was bullshit

acts like a gamergate feminist

What has pol become lol

Being an ideal man really just comes down to being rational and calm when under pressure.

You're crying over other men having more masculine physique than you like a jealous woman. Even by your own lowball definition, which you only pretend to believe to qualify your fat ass as masculine, you don't measure up. lmao

You also are not refuting anything I said and you talk like a negro.

Testosterone makes you aggressive and angry

constantly.

No it doesn't. You're thinking of wacked out steroid users, who are a) already insecure and fucked in the head just by virtue of taking steroids, and b) wacked out biochemical.

It's like people who say niggers are more masculine for some reason. Niggers are actually way more estrogenic, and it shows through in their lack of emotional stability, and their very womanly tendency to consoom retarded overpriced luxury brands. I see niggers walking around with coach backpacks similar to the purses women wear. They're obsessed with shoes, etc.

Where did I say I am more masculine than others?

This is unfortunately true. Was treated like trash my whole life when I had a very thin frame build. I got chubby and it made me look huskies and people started deferring to me. Americans are borderline retarded. I could have beat the shit out of myself when I was thin.

Refute what? Your a man, why do you care what a digital avatar looks like.

You are letting a digital avatar affect your frame. I don't have to refute anything because i'm high t and can kill you.

Arguing is for weaklings, read nitzche "twillight of the idols" instead of letting a digital image make you insecure.

says the overweight piece of shit shut in posting on a neckbeard imageboard run by Jews, for incels.

Shut the fuck up. You're not a man. you're not an adult. You're an embarrassment to your bloodline.

Before you even bother, i know you losers will mass reply with some fucking cock sucker Nazi copypasta. They would've thrown you into a labor camp for being morbidly obese homosexuals and "intellectuals" who blow smoke up each other's asses. The lot of you need to be drafted into the marines against your will, for the rest of your natural lives.

You sad queers can't even use handtools. OR power tools.

Boomers didn't have to try to get laid at all since they lived in a high trust white society.

Mens sana in corpore sano.

You actually believe what you wrote? Give me one example. I can give you a counter.
"Dad bod' is an endearing term, not a mocking title.
Show me pop magazines being endearing to women that gained weight after pregnancy.
Men don't really need to do anything, to be considered males. Getting a job maybe. Even dudes that get fucked in the ass, are considered men.

I can kill you

You are mentally ill if you think saying this makes you masculine. I'm not reading the rest of your post, sorry.

Possible natty?

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Being a man means being a wageslave, or something

You don't get it either, Juan.

I hope you have a healthy routine now and wish you a long and stress free life away from self harm and semitic body dysmorphia

doesn't read the greatest male minds in history like sun tzu or nietzsche

thinks that physique is unobtainium when 2-3 years in the gym gets you there

insecure about literal digital images

argues online

says boomer got laid easier despite half of them being married with 1 girl while wagecucking for 50 years

I'm pretty sure half this board can kill you in hand to hand lol, even our Anon Babble trannies have more T than you.

Ty fren. I am in the process of losing weight and am down about 10 pounds so far. I literally could not give a shit what an average American thinks luckily. They are more disconnected from reality than North Koreans.

"Might makes right" isn't an argument, dude. It hasn't been since the industrial revolution and you fucking know it.

testosterone is a regulator actually.

Testosterone doesn't make you angrier per se. It makes you more logical and analytical.
If what you analyze sucks because leftism ran rampant for too long due to microplastics and endocrine disruptors reducing masculine analytical decisions in government in favor of feminine submissive and emotional ones, then yes there is a correlation between testosterone and anger in that sense.

Public is controlled by the same nog culture that's encouraging groups of apes to slap your daughters ass in front of you knowing you'll die if you say anything

True but it's being taken back imo, look at things like Hegseth purging the military literally of dei and woke bullshit like white privilege.
These things took a long time to degrade whites to the point where we fight back.

Just think of Richard Brautigan in the 1980s. Abbie Hoffman. Think of people who lived through the 60s and really thought a revolution was going to take place.

There's another history lesson too though, that of Jim Jones in the 70's marketing literal communes to the exact kind of SF minority worshipping commies, playing off the exact submissive leftist attitudes that brought everything down in the first place, and those people imploded on the original literal poisoned koolaid, much like the DNC is imploding now trying to run things like a matriarchy.

I believe we are seeing some evidence that not just Trump, but the like minded people around him are dismantling and purging this bullshit at all levels and it is increasingly harder for the left to ignore what is going on. Gavin Newsom saw the wind shift for example, and is banning homeless camps in SF now. If that's not evidence of some real change in the left's mind break status I don't know what is.

sorry bud, but to be a real man you have to be tall and strong

There's nothing wrong with both taking care of the body and the mind btw. The Greeks and Romans too I believe recognized that the body was the seat of the mind. How do you make rational decisions unless both are taken care of?

Regarding "test = angry" shallow leftist philosophizing:

Caesar was an accomplished author and historian; much of his life is known from his own accounts of his military campaigns. Other contemporary sources include the letters and speeches of Cicero and the historical writings of Sallust. Later biographies of Caesar by Suetonius and Plutarch are also important sources. Caesar is considered by many historians to be one of the greatest military commanders in history.[3] His cognomen was subsequently adopted as a synonym for "emperor"; the title "Caesar" was used throughout the Roman Empire, and gave rise to modern descendants such as Kaiser and Tsar.

Suetonius (c.69 – c.122 AD) describes Caesar as "tall of stature with a fair complexion, shapely limbs, a somewhat full face, and keen black eyes".[269] He adds that the balding Caesar was sensitive to teasing on the subject, and therefore had a combover. Suetonius reports that Caesar was thus especially pleased to be granted the honour of wearing a wreath at all times.

Bald is frequently a feature of a lot of test being processed into DHT as we know now. This man also wrote about stars and constellations while doing military campaigns.

Why? So that you can be more efficient at reaching and picking up boxes when working at an Amazon warehouse?
In a combat scenario, you are just a bigger target for bullets and kamikaze drones.

Being an ideal man really just comes down to being rational and calm when under pressure

Stoicism as an ideal is much more indicative of perversion of masculinity, as in practice it means accepting women cucking you and jews buttfucking you and having to affirm that it's a good thing. That's why conservatives love it so much.

Not only does this sort of thing not actually appeal to that many women

Being tall does actually appeal to women. There's just absolutely no way to cope around it.

it suggests that masculinity is just about aesthetics and nothing else.

It is, if masculinity means "what women like in men." But usually it means "what I (not necessarily a woman) want men to do because it's convenient for me." Personally I think being convenient for soiciety is much more gay, especially as an ideal, than being visually appealing to women.

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Why else would you make this thread? You want to find basis for your own masculinity but you're small, fat, and have no achievements to speak of. So you resort to basic shit like "calm under pressure" because at least you can claim to be that.

Only fags go shirtless.

Don't you have some dicks you should be sucking, junior?

If I were a White guy in Florida right now I would hit the gym like there's no tomorrow because once GTA VI is out if you look anything close to that you will drown in pussy

"masculinity" is just hormones, I understand that it's difficult to accept and easier to think that "stoic" (also influenced by hormones you can't fake it) = masculine.

Picrel left will always be more masculine than right no matter how stoic he tries to be

Most attractive women I know bitch constantly about how most guys these are either weak, effeminate sissy bois or fat numales. It's generally the fat/ugly chicks that obsess over girl k-pop stars and twinks.

If you're a fat ball of lard incapable of attracting a White wife to breed, you're not White.

It is rare for a fat chick to be attractive. The vast majority are fuck ugly hamplanets with shit personalities and zero redeeming qualities.

Most attractive women I know bitch constantly about how most guys these are either weak, effeminate sissy bois or fat numales.

They're technically correct but it's not right to blame the men considering it's not their fault.

You claim he's making claims he never made. Why do you make baseless assumptions? You write like a fat chick.

Rational and calm

I mean that's part of it. I would say competence, confidence, will, and strength both of character and body.

Most attractive women I know bitch constantly about how most guys these are either weak, effeminate sissy bois

Coming from a foid's mouth, that means the exact same thing as "toxic masculinity"—doing something they don't like. You don't Juden Peterstein out for her tiktok? You're weak. Somehow.

I would say competence, confidence, will,

No it's just height, frame, chin, jaw, protruding cheekbones, browridge, heathly endocrine system and lean muscle mass

mogged

What an ugly chink

So, are we gonna get your sperging out about totally average fit male body threads daily now because you are shitting and pissing yourself over this image op? Sad.

Shut up fatty. If you are over weight you are not a man. Fat boys who are calm and rational are just quiet losers. Being ripped shows you care about strength and power. Being fat shows you are not a threat. l

Being in shape is a big aspect of being masculine you retard. Just lift, it’s fkn easy

It's the peak end of natty. Most won't reach that much mass while maintaining low bodyfat without steroids.

What an ugly chink

lmao keep coping

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Being fat shows you are not a threat

What if he falls on you?

writes like an angry fat chick

Why do you foids get so butthurt anytime some guy insults your unobtainable crush?

Coping is unhealthy.

dinosaur blanket

Alpha chad confirmed

argues like a fat feminist hole

That’s so ugly

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post the real pre surgery salludon (left) lmao, and he still gets brutally mogged by the guy I posted...

Nope

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Sex with Jason.

It's not the man's fault when he actively chooses a lifestyle that is repellant to the women he claims to want to bed.

That's some faggy, low T cope there, bud. Cope like that makes you just as stupid as your average woman.

Having masculine body is necessary if you’re about masculinity. Self control and self discipline are masculine traits, something kikes will never understand. Ever seen a jew at the gym? They’re against masculinity. Kikes are all about hedonism.

I went to a D&D night and some jacked guy turned up and yet I still totally mogged him because he was awkward as fuck, making unfunny jokes to try and break the tension, and joked around about going murder hobo when we were clearly trying to play the game properly which just annoyed everyone, the girls present too.

Being a gym bro and getting gym muscles isn't a life hack. I go to the gym and I've gotten in much better shape and feel great for it, and it does give you confidence and chill, but to think it'll make you a Chad is mad thinking.

I see plenty of dudes at the gym who are in great shape but clearly somehow still totally unappealing.

Don't get me wrong though, getting in shape will always improve you. It just isn't the key to everything.

That looks like a faggot

I am a "trans" person but guess what. Nobody cares what going on in your retarded monkey brain

>It's not the man's fault when he actively chooses a lifestyle that is repellant to the women he claims to want to bed.

Personality is cope bud, I bet you don't even know about xenoestrogens and EDCs

Take some personal repsonsibility for how you turned out. It's not too late to change.

Sorry bro I deleted and reposted with edits, IDK why now I feel like a reddit fag

tldr hush up fat

Lots of kikes go to gyms. Most people at gyms are kikes or fags. Home gyms are much better.

comtinues coping because he knows he's a dick

They prefer to read technical books. Now THAT requires some serious self-control and mental endurance because proofs in math can be absolutely brutal on one's psyche.

Just go to the fkn gym, you ugly piece of shit

That sucks I guess its just another thing we will all have to do independently on our own terms

Keep coping for his warrior skull

That looks like a faggot

If he looks like a faggot then what is Hamid Fadaei? Ballou is hypermasc in comparison to the guys you posted LOL
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Stop simping for arabs ther avg height is like 5'5" and they look white ish and antizionist. Literally shut the fuck up

lots of kikes go to gym

Wrong lmao you’ll never find a kike at the gym, they never play sports, they don’t have one inch of masculinity in their bodies.

technical books

LGBT books and anime doesn’t count beta kike mongol.

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You have to be 18 to post here and it's 2025 why are you still talking like org users from 2020?

Weirdo posters on this board man.

Ever seen a jew at the gym?

The roider with the uber-gut who was getting posted a few days ago is a jew. Also John "Jack Murphy" Goldman and his associates.

Oh, never mind I take what I said back. I didn't realize I was stepping on a human compost like yourself. Gross.

im fat and refuse to change, the post

Yeah but my point was that it isn't everything. Hitting the gym is always a good idea, but there are plenty of guys who just do that and are clueless about what else involves being masculine. You have a lot of unassertive spergs out there who are jacked now.

Gross

What’s gross is the amount of faggot/tranny kikes. 9 out of 10 kike rats are trannies. It’s utterly disgusting. Their women look like trannies and men look like twinks.

Are you mongol kike? What’s with the flag.

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Further, the jacked guy at my D&D did a very exaggerated thing with his arm when he shook my hand in a way where it was immediately obvious he'd practiced his handshake a lot under guidance from one of those how to be masculine youtube channels or something. It's just unnatural and I think everyone can sense the insecurity on some level, men and women.

Currently YOU are perverting it by posting it on antisocial media

about time there was a jewish gta character

Just go against everything a jewish men represents if you want to be seen as masculine.

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being an ideal man really just comes down to being

no. being "calm" or acting cool rather, is not exactly ideal under pressure. its why your body has particular physiological responses. sometimes you need to not be calm and you need to get angry and go hard and fast.. no time to be calm and slow like some retard.

I made a mistake of telling this sub IQ moron about his blind spots. I forget not many on here are of any kind of intellectual pedigree to appreciate any of that. Humanure of the lowest class.
And yes I am Kazakh. What of it?

I am Kazakh

Kazakh kike, I’ve seen it all now.

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Advice from a Russian is about the only thing one can take seriously on these matters and I mean this unironically. Some Russian guys take care of themselves well of course, they seem to do it for almost more pure reasons than the average western gymcel (retarded, whipped).

Russians generally don't tolerate even a fraction of women's bullshit that we do. And they tend to have better outcomes when you look at this from an energy investment type of thing. Every time there is a war outside of burka shitholes American men always come back infuriated after seeing actual human sexual dynamics are not a long series of tedious and evil humiliation rituals. Like normally women just cook nice meals and talk less and don't consider basic tasks of the housebroken a form of oppression. It's totally normal outside of le west.

Nope. I am ethnically Kazakh. And youre not fit to be dogshit I accidentally stepped on the other day.

is meant for you human filth

Sure you are
Do you look like that Down syndrome gorilla on the left?

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He looks only about 1000 times better than your whole fuckin repulsive family.

Only in your dreams mongol khazar kike.

Imagine looking like a mongol downie with gorilla nose and we wuzzing as a jew. What actual mental illness. Khazar Mongolian kikes with gorilla nose and far apart eyes are the worse kikes imaginable.

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What a disgusting gay faggot, should’ve seen this coming.

Gay khazar mongol kike, typical.

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Look at this human zit still talking. Talk the other way, you stinking pile of pus.

You’re a faggot kike, Tel Aviv is the gayest city on Earth and kikes are so mad about Palestinians being homophonic that they're destroying buildings so Hamas can't toss fags off of them.

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You’re a faggot. You fuck and groom little kids. Faggots are disgusting. They spread the worst diseases known to man carelessly, have zero morality or ethics beyond what gets them laid, and view said degeneracy as a political statement and ideology, often deliberately targeting the youth (who they have ulterior motives with, always).
That being said, pegging is extremely, dangerously based when done in moderation (like all kinks because unlike fags us normies have a sense of self-control), and if it were more widely popularized could potentially end male homosexuality by making it normal for men to get fucked in the ass by women.

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If you won't stop infecting this place with your disease I am gonna call hazmat on you. Thoroughly fuckin grossed out by this point.

grosss

Getting called gross by a faggot is just ironic. Gays are disgusting to any sane person regardless of their religion

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Being an ideal woman just comes down to cooking and saying nice things to me when I'm tired.

See? It can go both ways.

Your whole fuckin bloodline needs to be sanitized, you inbred human infection. I will wipe my screen and go take a shower now before I start losing any IQ points and catch something nasty. You're gross. That is my final assessment. You're dismissed.