Ben is entirely right and if you disagree you are a leftist

israel didnt exist when social security was implemented either. Lets go back to that.

finding purpose in wage slaving so the executives at your company can make 200x as much as you

neat but I'd rather go fishing

The Kike is so stupid,
he doesn't realize
this just means death
to all the people still worshiping Kikes.
I would gladly remove Social Security welfare
for the generations that went along with
forced integration with niggers on our people.
And then reinstate it
for the generations that didn't.

And one day, for no reason at all, the people voted AOC into power...

I am a Leftist. I'm a National Socialist.

if you can work, why the fuck should you get free money just because you're old?

Yeah man let's just be slaves to Capitalist Jews until we die! Fucking prick.

when social security was created, life expectancy was 64. today its 78

does this retarded jew not realize that life expectancy is mostly judged by infants dying? if anyone should know about dying infants it should be him

Nobody listens to Ben Shapiro unless they are looking for rage porn.

you should work until you're 78

please ignore it's not possible to do manual labor/blue collar work for that long and white collar companies refuse to hire you if you're over 50

Ben looking more ratlike every year

Yeah man let's just be slaves to Capitalist Jews until we die!

why should i pay for your retirement?

free money just because you're old? if you wanna retire pay for it your fucking self.

We pay Social Security taxes as soon as we start working

He's right, but for the wrong reasons.

On medicare and social security

TAXPAYERS should not pay you to retire

If you're not financially retarded and work for 35 years you can easily fund your own retirement. It should not be the taxpayer's burden to pay for it. I fail to see why this is an evil argument or unreasonable take.

Almost no one is healthy at 65 so his argument is retarded. Really though, you would think after 90 years since the SSA that life expectancy would be higher than a paltry 14 additional years. That's the real tragedy here, medicare doesn't even give you dental unless you pay for it out-of-pocket yourself.

A Jew wants you to work til you die

wow, shocking revelation about "God's chosen" once again, forget about your body still doesn't heal and recover faster as you get older, you're lucky if the 10 pills you eat for breakfast are able to keep a regular pulse. God burn this fake ass Jewish faggot world.

Spbp
Aren't there several ancient Greeks that lived well into their 80s and 90s?
Also the oldest person in history was alive when this program was established.

so? that doesn't pay for your retirement. it pays for someone else's retirement. and then when you get old, someone else has to pay for you. why the fuck do you deserve free money just because you're old?

work until you die, goy

all that matters is GDP

no I don't think I will

The real take-away is that the government originally launched the social security ponzi by setting the collectable age at roughly the same time as the expected age of death, creating a big pot of money for jews & politicians to steal from without having to worry about anybody coming in and asking WHERE'S MY FUCKING MONEY?

65 != 75

He wasn’t mistaken. Life expectancy was higher than 65 when social security was created in 1935.

too bad you didn't scroll down before you said something stupid

Arent all jews just leeches?

Democrat program where you pay taxes just to get it back in 50 years and have it taxed again is actually le good

Just invest it yourself faggot

fair, but the overall point here is that life expectancy has increased materially, even if shaptard is exaggerating it

The taxpayer paying for me to retire... Is me. I'd assume the average working American more than pays for their own social security too. T K D

Stop taking 7.65% of every dollar I earn (15.3% when you include the employer's share) explicitly for retirement taxes and I'll stop expecting to get it back one day when I retire. That aside, the problem is a lot of people are financially retarded. INTJ autists here can say "Who cares let them starve and die in a gutter when they're old if they didn't save for retirement" but that doesn't fly with normies, who greatly outnumber us, hence FICA taxes.

You don’t know how to read your own graph lmao. That’s life expectancy from 65 years old retard. It proves men lived over 75 years old in 1935.

too bad, everyone has already been coerced under penalty of jail time into paying a social security tax their entire life with the promise of a cash out and easier elderly life. now ofcourse its time to pay and "just keep working bro trust me"

lmfao there's no way this is real.

you don't know how to read before responding lmao

Difference is before men used to me smarter and INVEST in their children, this meant by 50 the old guy would have a younger wife, tons of kids and tons of grandkids that would do the job for him and take care of him.
There is a reason boomers are panicking and trying to get along with zoomers now, they know in a few years the nigger nurse will "take care" of them

I want to see that sweaty kike do physical labor to 70

I don't feel my calling in being a merchant.

This little dweeb has never done a day of physical labour.

this obviously unsustainable system is going to crush us, what should we do?

hmmm........ nothing :)

you are a coward and your lack of will and imagination for reform guarantees more and greater suffering.

you could literally just copy paste our superannuation system.

why do you listen to a literal kike with the kikest of kike last names?

pay into it

get free money

either retarded nigger or shit rage bait

also, you're confused. Shapiro was quoting life expectancy at birth, which is necessarily shorter than lfie expectancy for people who reach age 65. The retard to whom I responded suggested that this life expectancy measurement was flawed. You're using my graph as proof of a different number, because you're an idiot who actually doesn't understand this discussion.

No. You completely fucked up your own argument. Men on average lived around 75-77 years old in 1935. You said they live less than 64. Nothing else needs to be said.

I don't need to scroll down, this board is a fucking joke and I don't give a shit what 99% of the posts say, including (You)rs.

Then someone else can pay for my retirement.

why didnt they reform it 20 years ago then dipshit? now that its close to my time its time to "just keep working bro are you lazy haha should have reformed it"

the money you paid in is already spent. it's not your money, it's tax money that belongs to the state. taxes are not a purchase, you are not buying anything. you give the government that money or the government will kill you. that's how it works. it entitles you to nothing. and it doesn't need to entitle you to anything because your pensions are a legislated entitlement. you don't need to pretend like you earned your pension, you get it anyway.

that's the whole fucking problem you retard.

The context is irrelevant. I was pointing out what YOU said. Take responsibility for your own blunders you shameless faggot.

I’ll agree with this if you stop taking money out of my paycheck

why didnt they reform it 20 years ago then dipshit?

because of people like you. everyone just kicking the can down the road until eventually the bill comes due.

That was the non adjusted average life expectancy from birth you gay faggot jew. If you were in your 50s in 1935 then you could expect on average to hit you lower 70s. By 60 it's mid 70s for men. Those numbers aren't fucking accurate and you don't understand them, you double nigger gorilla.

I would rather just withold support for israel.

Life expectancy was about a decade higher 20 years ago, so that checks out. Every generation after millennials are just plain fucked, gen alpha ain't taking care of anybody including themselves like zoomers.

saying that won't make it true. governments all around the world are already being crushed by the expense of supporting useless old people and the crunch hasn't even really begun. this isn't a choice between "change" or "business as usual", it's a choice between "change now" or "crisis later".

as usual, cowards prefer to invent a nonexistent third option that lowers their anxiety so that they can remain comfortable in a train that is rapidly running out of track.

I'm a millennial (1985) and I have zero expectation SS will be there when I retire.

They stated adding chemicals and additives to the food, using dangerous pesticides and genetically modifying crops to hide the quality of life decline and increased costs, then farmed our illness. These people are sick and should be publicly executed.

you're still confused. I made no blunder here. I suggest that you re-read and aplogize to yourself for being stupid. The 75 that you came up with is for people who already attained age 65, so it's a completely different LE measurement than birth. Thus, your critique makes zero sense. The retard to whom i initally responded cited infant mortality, which obviously isn't involved for mortality tables for people who attain age 65. try harder before you try to dunk on people, you're making yourself look simple.

agreed, but you're the one struggling to understand here, too. The figures necessarily control for infant mortality, you dipshit. that was the point. LIfe expectancy for people who reach retirement age has increased substantially. People are retired for 2-3x as long as they were when the system was started, but their years in the workforce hasn't increased commensurately.

Like this jew bastard really works at all. Sit in a chair and talk for a few hours every day.
What a worker. I bet if I put this kike to actual work he'd change his tune real fast.

he retard to whom I responded suggested that this life expectancy measurement was flawed

Because it is you invalid.

OY VEY SO ACTUALLY I WAS TALKING ABOUT X

Typical fucking rat kike. Point to the post where I said it hasn't risen. Protip: you can't Moshe.

Don’t care. Don’t read. In a vacuum with your statements you’re a retarded faggot.

They were doing that shit 80 years ago, anon.

you didn't say so explicitly. but you only cited infant mortality here (). In fact you were incorrect about your life expectancy stat, unless you specified that you were talking about LE for people who attained a certain age (Which you also failed to do). I showed you the stats on how much life expectancy has expanded for people who attain retirement age, and that was only up to the early 2000s. It's even higher now.

ben shapiro is a kike and I can see why germans tried to eliminate their shit race

Medicare is retarded because it's just a government scam

But Shapiro can go fuck himself plenty of people retired for centuries before medicare et all existed

agreed

OY VEY THE GOY IS RIGHT BETTER PILPUL THE ARGUMENT TO SOMETHING TANGENTIAL

The figures necessarily control for infant mortality, you dipshit. that was the point.

No they don't kike. It's literally the raw average from birth.

that was the point

Not it wasn't faggot. The point is he is using misleading numbers, which you started arguing, then tried to back track. Which is completely typical of your people.

No one said nothing has changed. Kill yourself you insufferable genetic bottle neck result. Hadrian should have wiped your family from the Earth.

People pay into social security, he is a complete retard.

get btfo because you couldn't read

DUN CARE!

i know lol

lying faggot kike

is there any other type?

There's no way the right wing can understand this.

you should retire a few years before you die because huh purpose and the economy and stuff

This is why I don't give a shit about the germanic Protestant "work ethic" and people calling our culture lazy, you're all literal golems to be ridden until exhaustion and death and replaced by the next.

Men on average lived around 75-77 years old in 1935.

only if they achieved age 65. everyone laugh at this dipshit

He's in no position to say that as he hasn't surpassed retirement age himself.

Fucking repugnant arrogant Jew trying to think for you again.

SPBP

you didn't say so explicitly

OY VEY IN MY MIND IT WAS REAL GOY

In fact you were incorrect about your life expectancy stat

UNLESS YOU CLEARLY STATED THOSE NUMBERS WERE MISLEADING BECAUSE IT ACCOUNTS FOR INFANTS WE BLOOD LIBELED

Jesus, just stop posting. You fucked up. You have nothing to lose by just walking away. In fact, you only stand to gain by simply stopping your milquetoast attempts to back track and shift the argument.

Kek. No one like that works at mcdonalds.

Its all pajeets with shit smeared hands these days

NOOOO WE NEED THAT BOOMER MONEY FOR ISRAEL

(never mentions the millions of niggers on unemployment, food stamps, getting free healthcare...)

true. However social security would be cheap if we had only Whites.
White men, 27% of the population, working White men, 18% of the population, are currently the ONLY net producers in America.
that is 1/6 of the country supporting 5/6 of the country.
Imagine if the country was White only.
how wealthy we would be

Every American child gets 10k in a no touch investment account until 62, they can add to it as can employers, if they die their portion only goes to immediate relative, the rest goes back into the pot.
18 to 40 401k contributions increase to 50k per year. 40 to 70 tax breaks increase and contributions to investment accounts are raised.
70 plus receive a one time buyout.
End outdated obsolete social security. With investment strategies far surpassing what they were at it's inception, this bureaucratic program is no longer necessary.

NIGGA HEIL HITLER

I have retired and I am only 34 and I have zero income and zero assets and I collect zero in (((benefits))). Fuck off kikes, we are not slaves. The only thing I need is God, something Ben could learn.

comically, you've attempted to mock me with things I didn't say.
-you were incorrect about life expectancy at birth
-you incorrectly cited infant mortality as the primary driver of life expectancy in this context
-you seemed to ignore the fact that people live much longer upon reaching retirement age than they used to

you can't shitpost your way around any of that. Shapiro shouldn't have quoted life expectancy at birth. The issue remains a serious one, regardless. retirees are unequivocally retired for significantly more years than they were previously. only a retard would attempt to argue against that, yet you did.

Look at all the pilpul in the replies to you. Lmao. Kikes are big mad goyim want more than eternal slavery.

Ben literally doesn’t work right now . He may as well be retired

he is looking more and more like a rabbi

oy vey anon you need to keep working and providing us with your tax dollars until you die

goys are meant to wageslave until they drop dead

tkd

People retire because their body is genuinely junk that cant handle physical labor anymore and their brain is basically lagging so they cant handle mental office work anymore, the reason we have geriatric politicians is ridiculous nepotism.

That little kike has never done a days graft in his life.

In case you haven't realized yet: Ben Shapiro is a literal kike!

SS is retarded because you're saying the government with 37t of debt is better at saving money than you. As of a few years ago SS officially started paying out more than it took in. Look at the police/firefighter pensions that went bust. You'd have to be a fucking nigger tiered moron to think they're going to do you right. Ben shapiro is a Satan worshiping kike but a broke clock is right twice a day.

I retired at 55. Should have stopped working at 50. My handicap would be so much better now.

work until you die my fellow go...citizen for the GDP and Corporations

i don't think i will

I agree, we're going to be $55 trillion in debt by the mid 2030s
Medicare Medicaid and Social Security should be eliminated

Anon basic math tells you that was a scam to enrich boomers, don’t endorse a pyramid scheme just because you fell victim to it

Just put women back in the kitchen and get rid of income taxes so men can get a wage where saving for retirement is feasible

I agree. 65? They still have a few decades left of untapped labor potential.

Everyone knows its not going to be there.

God, something Ben could learn.

money is the Lord of the kikes

Were nazis pro-nationalization of businesses and worker rights?

That guy has an agenda which doesn't benefits you.

Hold on. Life expectancy in the US is only 78? WTF.

Its pretty old really.

Boris Johnson's approach to Covid was based on misunderstanding that. Apparently they tried to explain it to him five times and eventually gave up.

Has Ben Shapiro ever had a job that required physical labor?

The fact that a greedy, evil, grabbler is against it is enough for me to be for it.

youtu.be/Q4PC8Luqiws?si=8qrVIrYsDzIufPaK

Life expectancy is a jewish stat. It has a misleading name. It's actually just an average of ages at death.

Everyone should be familiar with this jewry by now. They use it to claim life in the middle ages was so hard you only lived to be 35. But that's bullshit. It's an average created by dying babies.

Not really. Aging has definitely changed with medicine and nutrition. I'm GenX and knew my Great Grandmother who used to complain about war pension policy when the war she was talking about was against the Boers (1899-1902). Her being in her 70s is nothing like people in their 70s today. 78 is third world numbers.

counterpoint: kill yourself

Everyone that works a real job has a litany of health problems by 65.

Heil Hitler, Ben.

Real talk.

Kek

Has this jew worked a single day un his entire life?

Guess I'm a leftist then. Now kindly face the wall.

dont have children goy, we will pay for your retirement

what you expect us to pay for your retirement? oy vey! you shoulda had kids who would help you in your old age!

da gubmint should pay me bcuz I'm old

everyone else is jewz if dey dun agree

ANOTHER mask-off moment.
Meanwhile, even China is more progressive than the US and EU in this regard.
Some of the lowest Retirement ages in the world DESPITE the recent eligibility changes.

The chutzpah of this piece of shit.

Yes. Hitler created a bunch of unions with official power in the government, categorized by industry, and they could vote for their representatives.

OP, you are the leftist since you agree with Social Security, just with benefits starting at a different age. And for watching Ben Shapiro.

And then one day, for no reason at all...

never own a house

never have a wife

taxes always go up

everything always more expensive

never able to get ahead

just work forever until you die

Who would sign up for that reality.

How do you do, fellow leftists?

It's funny that ben shapiro and nick fuentes agree here.
One of nick's priorities is the budget. He wants all these gibs to old people cut off too.

I suppose that's a little true

pretty sure we are living it now

Good thing he’s just some faggot with a poorly trafficked talk show.

So many retards in this thread. He's talking about state funded retirements. If you can afford retirement you can do it whenever you want. Why should the public subsidize you until you die

Its amazing just what a filthy disgusting rat faced no good kike cocksucker this jew circus midget is. If you ever want to see how kikes astroturf controlled op, don't have to look any further than this dwarf faggot jew. But Little Benny is funny because everything he says is directly from Israel. This evil cocksucker literally has no thoughts or opinions of his own and will only ever give the kosher answer. So basically, believe the opposite of whatever this filthy midget parasite on humanity says.

a jew

being right

lel
lelmao

He should go back to israel and run his show there, make it about jews and israel. America is not his country, he's just a parasite with no right to speak on American issues. He should fuck off to israel and stay there.

Sorry wagies but Israel needs another trillion dollars. Get back to work gramps

Counter point, if I have to live over the age of 50 I will make it your problem. You are a faggot.

The only anon that understands ITT

That's right goyim. That money needs to go to Israel to bomb children and bulldoze family houses!

joke's on him, i'm never gonna stop being driven to remove neanderthal genes from human society, retire what?

Does Ben Shapiro really "work?" I don't consider bitching about politics to be contributing to society in any meaningful way.

Only the goodest of hebrew apron wearing boomer zogbot goyim golems are allowed to gain anything more than crumbs and scraps in this kiked nigger Wiemar Mexico city brown shithole economic zone being sold to us as a nation of integrity and patriotism.

FUCK YOU KIKES PAY ME!

I sent the CIA a demand for 5 million dollars cash in security fees otherwise I know I can cause at least 5 billion dollars worth of damage, hell much more than that.
Hell a single airplane is worth gobs and gobs.
Look at the cost over that single Trump plane, all I need to do is get to one big expensive airplane (empty of passengers of course, I am just an economic terrorist, like the boomers are they taught me well) simply need to burn up one airfield worth of empty jets on a tarmac, guard/reserve/active/storage air force jets/transport/refuelers, city airport, private airfield.

If not that I can drop a large number of high power grid wires heading into a city timed and coincided with the next nigger chimpout to add some fun to the mix for the neoliberals living in the nigger tower box cities.
Turn the nigger chimput riots into a huge blackout.

Target the water mains so none of the fires can be put out.
Target the 5G towers everywhere and the fiber hubs.

I could hit huge fuel storage sites or refining plants like I learned from the Russian war.
I can do massive amounts of damage with a simple cheap chink TEMU drone.
Target factories worth billions and just try and burn as much of it as possible.

I am not a nigger
I will not be looting the dollar store and the foot locker.
I will be looting the fucking grid.

There is so many ways to cause hellacious amounts of financial carnage.

Is it really worth it to not just give me 5 million dollars?

You have 37 trillion in national debt you have given to jews and sand niggers and chinks and spics.

Guess how much of that 37 trillion national debt I have in my bank? ZERO! ZERO FUCKER! ZERO!

Just pay me the 5 million

People are retired for 2-3x as long as they were when the system was started, but their years in the workforce hasn't increased commensurately.

Your graph shows life expectancy at 65 went from 12 years to 17. That's not 2-3x longer.

There shouldn't be an arbitrary retirement age, people that make more money can afford to retire earlier. Social security should just pay out with less benefits, or increasing benefits as you get older.

I'm on track to retire by 50, that is IF I had access to dividends and maybe some healthcare plan.

you don't say

spbp

Forced memeing spam thread. Nobody cares about Ben Shapiro or other Kosher Conservative (Zionists) ecelebrities

Tax Shapiro so that I may retire at 65

That graph is 20 years old, the gap is larger for women, and it omits people who died between the old retirement age and age 65, which is a significant amount. 3x probably an exaggeration but 2x isn't far off

I actually agree in some ways. You guys have to understand that retirement is one of the biggest justifications elites use for mass immigration, as a way to sustain its system.

Ben is a greedy kike jew first of all. Secondly, we pay into SS. Thirdly GDP per capita in 1935 was 8000 USD. It's now 70,000. If all the wealth and prosperity in this nation isn't enough to allow people to retire before we die then I don't want to participate. Like, fuck it. It's not something worth contributing to

Jew wants you to work until you're dead

Did that include infant mortality? Non natural death?

I was able to read it so fast, wonder if he has written any books

he knows. he just wants more goy money for israel.

boomers win again...

I was going to post this, but you were here first. Oh well.

Of course, hence the link and image. Though if you're asking if the average life expectancy for a 65 year old includes infant mortality, then I don't know what to say

keep working forever goyim!

As someone who regularly works with persons 80+ years old, you don't want most of these people doing anything at your corporation, trust me. They're completely technologically maladroit. For every one you have working for you, you'd need a full-time IT support worker helping them with literally everything computer related. It's not uncommon for them to not know how to use a smart phone or a touch screen. You lose proprioception & equilibrioception at that age, so doing anything that requires physical labor is a major liability. Their risk of falling or dropping something is magnitudes higher than it is for younger people. You also get inevitable cognitive decline -- they'll get lost mid-conversation, forget what we were talking about, misremember facts, repeat themselves, etc.

Ben owns a media company -- ask him how many octogenarians he's hired in the past five years. Asking corporations to become less efficient & take on more liability so your grandpa can continue to work is leftist thinking.

Even if the jews crashed 1000 planes into buildings I don't think it will create anything even so much as resembling patriotism in this land ever again.

Nah. They killed the nation and have nothing left. Parasites can't maintain their host