I’ve never heard someone convincingly refute this

I’ve never heard someone convincingly refute this.

Defund science. If technology were entirely funded by market forces people like Oppenheimer would have to go on GoFumdMe trying to act all innocent and not a communist kike like “Please give to my worthy cause so I can become death destroyer of worlds” taxation is the root of all evil

he's actually right about this, the more important education is in a society, the faster birthrates (and by extent society) collapse. But he was wrong about everything else including being a disgusting tranny and making his dad commit suicide, plus his ideology is retarded

Ted was right but this is probably a shill thread

nigga you live in fucking canada I can't take you seriously

Here's a very convincing no

Were Luddites conservative or liberal?

Nigger that isn’t an argument

nigga you live in fucking Canada

It’s a straw man. Conservatives don’t advocate to stay in the Stone Age, they simply advocate for caution and to beware of unintended consequences. Move too fast and everything shatters. Move too slow and you fall behind and someone else becomes your leader.

Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. There is no evidence that rapid technological progress inevitably leads to the destruction of traditional values.

YOU CANT USE A COMPUTER TO DO MATH UNLESS YOU GET FUCKED IN THE ASS BY THE SAME GENDER

Japan. Pre 1960s America.

Get fucked Ted. Its the Jews, not technology.

For supposedly being high IQ, his take is pretty bluepilled. He didn't take into consideration the primitive, herd-like thinking of the peasants, their gullibility and the willingness of the politicians to outright lie and deceive them for their interests.

the faster birthrates (and by extent society) collapse.

Society isn't the economy, especialy not today's globalist one.

conservatives are fools. PERIOD. there is nothing to refute.

He didn't take into consideration the primitive, herd-like thinking of the peasants, their gullibility and the willingness of the politicians to outright lie and deceive them for their interests.

I dont think he was a monarchist though.
He was an anarcho primitivist, and wanted to return to some fantasy world that never existed, populated by freely-associating peaceful tribes. Like he heard too many fairy tales about native americans as noble savages as a kid and said "lets do that" without a hint of irony at the fact that we destroyed them effortlessly because we had guns and they didnt.

"Fools" is such a weak work, it doesn't do them justice. The MAGA retards laugh at the word fool. I like "braindead" or "moron" better, hits harder.

native americans as noble savages as a kid and said "lets do that" without a hint of irony at the fact that we destroyed them effortlessly because we had guns and they didnt.

Just another example of how you got duped into destroying another civilization because of your masters said that it's not worth preserving and wanted to own the land.

do you wanna try saying that in english

that fancy new graphics card means you have to let Tyrone give his BBC to your wife

There is a way to rapidly progress technology and the economy while simultaneously warping culture and traditions to fit this new landscape. It's called fascism.

Actually both communism and fascism did it pretty successfully, too. It wasn't until Franco died and Juan Carlos I and Gorbachev began making more liberal reforms that their governments began to crumble and collapse. Leading to unfettered cultural shifts without guidance from anything or anyone.

Conservatives don't conserve much of anything.

I'm saying that the idea itself is a noble one, and just because you had a technical advantage doesn't make you superior. You are just a brainwashed tool of corporate greed and a literal slave. That savage experienced more freedom than you or your ancestors ever did.

Oh no, we can't believe in traditional values like family and nationality because cell phones exist now or something

Ted is fucking retarded

I’ve never heard someone convincingly refute this.

Its not that Ted is wrong. Its that you can't stop technological progress, so you have to constantly fight against it to preserve human dignity.

That's the fundamental flaw in Ted's thinking. The failure to accept the inevitability of progress for better or worse. Ted imagines you can stop the tides when the best you can do is ride them out.

Its not that Ted is wrong. Its that you can't stop technological progress

Gods can, hope they do if necessary (Say, something that makes the required voltage to operate computer switches higher so they can't be small and need more power.)

That's the fundamental flaw in Ted's thinking.

I think the fundamental flaw is that we absolutely need more technology than we have to persist far into the future, otherwise some natural catastrophe like an asteroid hit will kill us all. Divine intervention aside.

That savage experienced more freedom than you or your ancestors ever did.

Look at how far that got them.

conservatives are just less radical progressives

American education.

Divine intervention aside.

Gods can, hope they do.

YEAH BRO EVERYBODY SAYS TECHNOLOGY IS SO GOOD BUT THEY DONT EVER THINK ABOUT HOW GOOD MAGIC IS BRO

never had anyone refute this either

The only thing the koshervatives want to conserve is israel.

Kaczynski was a tranny? Where did you get that from?

Savitri Devi devoted a whole chapter right at the beginning of The Lightning and The Sun to dismantling the idea that we as a species have advanced in any way other than technologically
education is just one facet of it

"Change is good" does not justify the retarded changes you've attempted at all though.

It's like getting AIDS on purpose because "change is good"; you're just retarded.

Words such as "moron" or "braindead" would look out of place in an intelligent sentence

there are millions of migatards who love to fellate elon's rockets, cars, and satellites even though they're all junk

conservative is just a meaningless word. it doesn't define people on the right. This is a straw man.

but, anon, if society says something is a good change, then it is therefore good. And will be considered so long after we're gone. It's almost as if whoever holds to key to the minds of the people, holds their morals and future.

Oh well. We all know that's not possible. Society just shifts their moral and customs randomly.

what do they do then according to you? innovate? rebel?

They're just 25 years behind the democrats. All conservatives want to do is conserve their own slice of pie. Fuck all else. Most republicans/conservatives today would be considered democrats in the late 90s.

Nietzschean right wing does not have traditional values as its ends. So there.

Ted did good on this quote but he misses the core issue. Religion and capitalism are not compatible, and religion is the one that must go. You can't go to church and listen to a big speech about how "the rich cannot get to heaven, much like a camel cannot go through the eye of a needle" and then proclaim rational selfishness as the political ideal. They go full schizo because they want the economic prosperity of a free market but still espouse the biggest commie of all time (who died for the sins of others) as their all time superhero. It is the single most damning evidence if you look at why the left has been winning the "moral argument" by actually being 100% altruist instead of religiously altruist but politically rationally selfish.

true enough

That is not one of TK's better quotes / observational analyses.
Also (as it has turned out in 2025) it is the "liberals" who are the leading lights of the authoritarian techbros/technocracy. Not the conservatives
(as this anon points out the 'left' / 'right' , 'conservative' / 'liberal' illusory categories have little meaning any more, they still did in the 80s and early 90s when TK wrote that)

You say that like your country isn't 20% white without boomers you fucking dumb nigger.

Progressives aren't pushing for anything that didn't exist prior to the advent of tech as it exists now, thus tech isn't a factor in their arguments and the argument becomes moot.

I’ve never heard someone convincingly refute this.

Correlation does not equal causality, faggot!
The link is due to the fallibility of man, not to some intrinsic connection.

nah, just ditch IP law entirely
no patents, no incentive to keep 'improving' when it isn't needed.
there is though, if you look for it

too late now, just go with the flow. stop pissing against the wind

Well you have now: Jews
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get rid of Intellectual Property laws especially patent monopolies and we would see far less "progress"

there IS evidence bro, you just gotta go out and look for it

Maybe you could like, you know, provide it.

NOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE FAX MACHINE MADE ME RACIST

Read Adam Smith Theory of a moral sentiment
also you have it backwards but then the Dutch were the progenitors of modern globohomo.

but you can read it: does not. see

now you can say, never heard, but read it

If you want jobs and computers and shit you must be nigger lover

Yeah, don't think so yank. Sounds talmudic as fuck to me.

religion is not your problem, but christianity?
Also I think individuals of "rational self interest" are seen in more primitive societies. There's not only wealth to think about but also social order which is better with "selfless" cooperation and identification with the state/community/group, morals are also important for functioning societies which traditionally come from religion. You make it too easy for yourself by picking one aspect from the bible and declare it non-conforming with capitalism

meds