Woke means racist

woke means racist
the right needs to find a way to cure its internalized wokism
don't be woke

Actually, DEI for White poeple is good.

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woke right

no different from the "right wing sjw" charge of the previous decade, except leftoids are called woke instead of sjws now

Everyone engages in some sort of identity politics. Why should whites exclude themselves for no reason? Have you ever spoken to an immigrant? Let alone traveled to a non Western country? They don't give a shit about the label of "racist," they could have lived across a river from another group for thousands of years and hate them.

Could this twitter personality give an actual example of this occurring?

ethnic warfare is the one game you can win by not playing
if your group is above it all and refuses to think ethnically, you can win easier than the morons that try to help "their people" and refuse to help "their enemies"

I get that sounds nice, but I hate to break it to you if this is a serious take, it's retarded. There's no other way I can describe that position. It doesn't matter how you feel about racial politics in America,

whites get excluded from educational and employment opportunities

Heh but at least they weren't racist

Great and now they're dirt poor and can't get a leg up in life.

you can win easier than the morons that try to help "their people" and refuse to help "their enemies"

I'm old enough to remember the phrase "It's okay to be white" being an offensive statement. Is it wrong for me to play identity politics and say that it actually is at the least okay to be white? Or should I keep my chin up because I'm so above it all and therefore make myself an easy target to be punched?

you don't win by playing

Just look at this pathetic nigger faggot shabbos cocksucking loser desperately trying to meme this into relevance. What a complete fucking idiot.

Identity politics are bad because uhhh fuck White people okay?!

Lmao liberal nihilists are fucking retards.

The shittiest shill campaign in Anon Babble history by the dumbest shabbos house nigger the kikes have ever sent here continues hilariously.

You can't win if you don't play you fucking idiot

Retard, you understand that's not the world you live in right? You don't as a group get the choice to "not play," you're in the game because they have chosen for you already. It's that simple. And if I have to choose on thinking it's okay to be white or hating the color of my skin, I'm gonna go with the former and fuck anyone that thinks the latter.

I'm socialist (free healthcare, education, transportation) for white people.
I'm socialist (gun control, abortion, government surveillance) for non-white people.

if you play you're just as bad as the people you're against and you deserve to lose

I'm a national socialist tho. I want socialism for my people only.

You get you're not making a point right? Do you understand you just sound like a faggot? If I show up to your house armed and want what's in your house, are you not now involuntarily engaged in a struggle for your property and possibly your life without you having made a choice in the matter? If you step aside and I rob you, you didn't win anything.

It's fine to me if by "just as bad" you mean I feel comfortable in my own skin. Can you at least admit that it's okay to be white?

woke means you don't say nigger, nigger.

This is the best the kikes can send here. Fucking kek.

if you want to be woke, have fun
don't try to get real right wingers to go along with your wokism though

Now we can go back to woke being a good thing? I always thought it was annoying that leftists commandeered the term to mean gay and jewish.
Someone needs to tell this Lindsay faggot about how the US won't exist without white supremacism.

you should go extinct while nepotistic jews lord over you and nepotistic jeets take over your workplace, but hey, at least you're not as bad as the people not going extinct.

How about no.

this

Every group except 1 engages in nepotistic behavior

Hahah guys I totally won by just letting everyone phase me out!

You belong in a mass grave

criticize others for being woke

act woke yourself

You're not the sharpest nail are ya?

I have no convictions

congrats?

deserve to lose

Oh wise shabbos house nigger intellectual faggot grifter shill. Who makes that decision and why I should I fucking care about their or your faggot opinion?

I'd much rather see my enemies destroyed in the most horrible and violent ways possible after what they have subjected us to for the last 10+ years.

Your house nigger faggotry is disgusting. You should save your money because whatever jews are paying you, it's not going to last long.

You understand that unless you present an actual argument for why it is bad for white people to play identity politics, calling them "woke" isn't an insult right? Like if I just called you a clabberdoo and said you behave like a clabberdoo and if you want to go ahead and be a clabberdoo, just don't bring it here, you can understand that's meaningless right? You have to actually present a case as to why white people shouldn't play identity politics and if I can present a case that white people should indeed play identity politics better than your negation of my position, then the sensible thing for me to do would be to continue to hold my position. All you have brought are meaningless platitudes which wouldn't convince anyone with an above room temp IQ.

Also why do you keep avoiding the question "Is it okay to be white?"?

Out of touch boomer neocons think calling me woke will magically stop me from being racist after the last 15 years of absolute crazy town the west has been in? Great, im sure that will work.

be retarded white nationalist

advocate for free speech

advocate for gun rights

advocate against racial policies

expect society to move towards authoritarian white nationalism in the long run

chuds are great for liberalism

Remember when James Lindsay a couple of years ago bashed saying Jesus is King on Easter Sunday because his Jew friends asked? Reminder that even anti-commies are subverted by commie jews even though pretending they aren't

This fucking nigger faggot shabbos cocksucker is literally trying to start Neo-Conservatism again after witnessing how toxic its been for the last 20+ fucking years.

This fucking nigger is literally the most pathetic goy faggot I've ever seen. He's not even funny or entertaining. It's literally just bottom of the barrel house nigger midwit "intellectualism" poorly being shat upon this place over and over. It's fucking stupid.

I'm not woke, I'm anti-woke
woke means racist
as long as whites are woke they don't deserve to win
at least other races have reasons to be woke
whites are just like "we were woke to everyone else for hundreds of years, but now that the tide is turning against us, nobody else is allowed to be woke!"
we made our bed now its time to lie in it. the only redeeming quality we could possibly have is to not be woke on the way out

Shut up, you fucking idiot. No one cares. Go suck off a rabbi.

I accept your concession, woketard

Mega schizo nigger.

deserve

What is this fucking faggot obsession of yours? Are you this retarded that you don't know the winners write the history?

Again, how the fuck did you con jews who aren't retards into giving you money for this fucking horse shit.

you have to be atleast 18 to post here bud

Start your next shill thread, faggot shabbos nigger.

You understand that saying a certain racial group should behave in a certain way is identity politics right? I'm not sure if it's the fact that you're retarded that blinds you from this or what but this what you're saying here is exactly the thing you're accusing those that are "woke" of doing.

Is it okay to be white? And can you define your terms?

How does somebody this retarded manage to have a following?

winners write history

so you have no issue with jews writing us out of history?

Game isn't over yet, bitch. What do you think the last 10+ years have been, you disgusting cocksucker.

This op is fucking pathetic. They're terrified of Whites standing up.

MFW I walk around being proud of being White and seeing all the shitskins seethe

why can't I be woke when I spent my whole life shrieking at wokeness?

maybe have some principals?

Imma apply this gay faggot term to you despite it being nonsensical

Hahaha you're this label I applied to you

Are you literally retarded? I'm struggling to come up with another conclusion.

house nigger

He's not a house nigger. He's a jew. There is no such thing as "woke right".

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Who fucking pays you, faggot? I want to send them an e-mail telling them what a shitty job you're doing and how they're completely wasting their money. I mean, even evil kikes don't deserve to get grifted by fucking obese faggot retarded clown like you.

your brain is short circuiting because after spending your life screeching about woke boogeymen you realize that you've been more woke than them all along

He looks to fat and dumb to be a jew. Are you sure this isn't a shabbos nigger faggot who spends all his goybucks on Happy Meals?

I mean... seriously, jews aren't as stupid as this nigger.

I am racist and you can't stop me

Hold them to their standards

Fuck outtahere with your Alinsky horse shit.

You're a goddamn Chinaman! GO MAKE RICE CHINK!

(See, I can play your faggot nonsensical game too where I pretend not to understand how words work.)

I thought the way to lose is by playing the game though? So now you're admitting that there is a game to be played?

You cannot escape identity politics. You realize you being "anti-woke" is an identity right? Others have chosen the game and chosen that you will be in it. You understand I'm not bothered by you slapping a meaningless label on me right? How do you know I've spent my entire life shrieking at wokeness? I personally have always thought whites should be proud of their heritage and acknowledge that they live in a world where they, just like other racial groups, should be conscious of their skin color because living in a colorblind world is a fantasy that only exists in the minds of delusional retards and children. And not even all children because some children can even realize how retarded that is. Now please answer the question, is it okay to be white?

It is so funny they send this fat fucking faggot here as an "intellectual" to make men house niggers again.

I really think this faggot struggling to put three IQ points together.

Why can’t whites be allowed their own self determinism???

I literally couldn't give less of a shit if you call something woke. I criticize non-whites organizing to take power from whites in a white country. You were the fags who labelled that woke just so you wouldn't have to directly mention race. Picrel is coming back whether you like it or not, so get on board or get out of our way.

hey, that might actually make for a good new its okay to be white poster motto kek

Be shitskin hate whites but demand to be included in white society

There you go gootecks

It’s kinda scary how many “””conservative””” influencers combine the ideas of “we need to stop the left from doing identity politics because it will make white people mad” and “white people aren’t allowed to do identity politics”. When you combine those two ideas together in one brain it means that their innermost concern is opposing white identity politics and that their opposition to the left is seemingly based on fear of the reaction to it the left. One of the worst types of traitorous retards, but I think that many of them are just simply just leftists. Thankfully they’re easy to spot and losing the narrative war

Come on, start your next shill thread, shabbos nigger faggot obese clown.

the founding fathers were woke

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god bless anon. Kikes will burn in hell for eternity and their entrails be slowly roasted.

Nice try nigger, but as a millennial having already lived through this psyop, you are dead wrong, because that attitude is what got us here in the first place
If we had our current attitude in 2010 OWS wouldn't of failed just become some intersectional negress got on stage, we would of booed her off, told niggers to stop making OWS about themselves
And pushed forward ignoring agitators trying to D&C

no identity politics

The people telling whites that identity politics is bad and that being pro-white makes them just as bad as the left all seem to support a hyper militaristic apartheid fortress ethnostate for jews and expect whites to do the same.

Lead by example.
Practice what you preach.
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Judge not lest ye be judged yourself.
Do as I say, not as I do.
Actions speak louder than words.
Be the change you want to see in the world.

We wouldn't have so many idioms for this general idea if it wasn't deeply ingrained in our collective psyche. Perhaps the reason whites are no longer listening to jews is because jews aren't leading by example. If the jews have apartheid israel and thousands of organizations like link-related then they are leading the world down the path of identity politics.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish-American_political_organizations

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You aren't a right winger because that's not what we call ourselves, you don't speak for anyone jewboy

Notice how identity politics is only bad when it's for White people

Yes

you're just as bad as the people you're against and you deserve to lose

If he's just as bad why does only his side deserve to lose?
Get out of our thread internationalist ADL faggot

james lindsay has been doing nothin for the last decade but try to coin a political term. he used to oppose the "woke" term because he had some other retarded term he came up with that he wanted to push. literally just a namefag trying to force his shitty memes. ALSO on the subject matter, it would be simply IDIOTIC and naive for white people to believe that the political forces behind the "woke" movement will not just return to their anti-white course by subverting the language of universalism, they have proven in the past to be willing and capable of this. you can't have a fair game when one game is constantly using every tool at their disposal to subvert the rules in their favor, at that point its better to try to stop playing the game with them

"Woke right" is the same with "woke left", except they use "gawd" and "protect the children" for their moralfagging. I've seen their shit in the 90s.

Deserve

This cocksucking moron's entire argument is about some bizarre notion of what is deserved and isn't deserved. What fucking faggot value is that and who determines that? The voices in James Lindsey's dumb fucking faggot shabbos house nigger head?

What a completely stupid fucking argument. I don't even know who this fucking faggot is supposedly appealing to with this? God? Does this cocksucking moron fucking faggot think he's speaking for God? And if he does that either denotes he's completely mentally ill or he think he's representing the Chosen and is so mentally twisted that he is completely irredeemable.

Fucking bizarre to see something this fucking stupid. This nigger should be greeting niggers at Walmart.

nooo alt-right goyim, you MUST love jews

No, everyone alive knows its the jews now

Is this what you call it when white people start to push back against jews for the Kalergi plan?

Can you do what OP was unable to do and actually engage on the topic? Or are you an intellectually dishonest retard as well?

woke means racist
whites have been woke to everyone else for hundreds/thousands of years and JUST WHEN they stick up for themselves and act woke back, whites start shrieking that they're not allowed to be woke, only whites are allowed to be woke
we look like clowns
we made our bed, now we lie in it
we deserve everyone else being woke to us for a bit, but we've been woke ourselves for far too long
the only way humanity wins is if we lead by example and stop being woke
even if we get eradicated, the world can be unified against us and move past wokeness once we're gone
us whites need to be christlike and absolve humanity of its wokeness, even if it takes the ultimate sacrifice

Wait so you’re acknowledging you want to take away the things that are good for liberalism?

Yes. They actually were compared to the politics and ideas of their time. They were liberal democratic enemies of monarchy that codified human equality into their constitution. This paved the way for a more and more extreme and internally consistent forms of equality in the future. Amerimutts need to understand that the values of 1776 are not the values of blood and soil. As long as there any any conservative supporters of any currently standing Western regime (or supporters of the regime “X years ago when it was ackshually BASED”) we have no hope. The right needs to push for regime change and ending democracy and bourgeois power

So the founding fathers were woke?

us whites need to be christlike and absolve humanity of its wokeness, even if it takes the ultimate sacrifice

Why don't you just blow your faggot brains out now?

woke means racist

It actually means the cult-like closed-minded belief in leftist values.

When will you learn that niggers tongue my fucking anus? You little bitch

I'm talking about whites, not the woke, slave-owning founding fathers
they were peak wokeness

Cuckservatives will never realize why this is happening will they?

So the "woke right" is actually the traditional position?
The woke right wants to CONSERVE the founders vision?

woke means racist

Notice how the fags that said woke means nothing and it’s a made up buzz term are now trying to say what it means in hopes to retake control and push a bogus narrative.

Wow woke is sounding pretty based ngl
Maybe YOU are the radical?

Again, let us all pause and laugh at just how silly it was the kikes sent this fat fucking faggot shabbos obese clown to try to shill here.

Advocating for White people is “woke right” to these retards. They want a hyper-individualized multicultural lolbertarian society (but only for White people), while everyone else can racially advocate
Tldr jews

Of course not. The only example of institutionalized identity politics from non-leftists in real world is zionism, which he supports. It's all projection. His greatest fear is that whites will start acting like jews, and this completely discredits everything he says. He wants white people to support israel, but if white people formed a society like israel he would condemn it for being racist, fascist etc. This proves that he doesn't think in terms of good or bad actions, only in terms of good or bad groups, This is identity politics by definition.

woke means racist

Guess I'm woke as FUCK.

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woke means jewish. Is he acting in a jewish way? No then he isn't woke. Not that fucking hard.

NOOOO your suppose to go against your own self interests

You want examples what the woke right pruds did i. the 90s? Alright

censored bevis and bitthead

tried to cancel bill mahr

took speedy Gonzalez off the air

blamed videogames for school shootings

attacked anime

Walmart would not sell song that cussed

Those fucking democrats and republicans WILL NOT DEFEND YOUR RIGHTS and you are retarded if you think otherwise.

while everyone else can racially advocate

Not quite. The modern left are the ones who want a world in which everyone besides whites can racially advocate. The zionist right want a world in which only jews can racially advocate. Both are anti-white, but the zionist right is also anti-black, anti-muslim etc too.

first post, based post

took speedy Gonzalez off the air

That’s was wokefags aka SJWs that were complaining that the character was a racist stereotype. You’re just another well poisoning faggot trying to push the same narrative that everyone is the same because one group is noticing another groups bullshit.

Umm, actually blue and red are the same color if blue is red. Checkmate wokesters

Nice work

No it wasn't retard. It was that "family values" crap hypocrite republicans push with faggot dems on the heel. Nintendo games were censored as fuck. They even had censored versions of movies for the faggot snowflake christians.
But be warned:
As soon as the mat walsh faggots get power, they'll be swinging the ban hammer with me shouting "I told you so"!

1. Should jews stop being woke?
2. Should jews stop pushing for jewish interests?
3. Should the jews in Israel give citizenship to all palestinians and allow them to vote?

censored bevis and butthead

at the very least there were 2 jewish producers and probably more jews

tried to cancel bill mahr

he is a jew by blood

took speedy gonzalez off the air

that wasn't the right

blamed videogames for school shootings

likely started by jews and pushed into loyal goys to push. If whites are playing video games they aren't working so take away the video games for max profits.

attacked anime

lol

Walmart would not sell song that cussed

you are mad about a business not selling a song cause they disagree with it? quite jewish to want to control other's businesses.

Those fucking democrats and republicans WILL NOT DEFEND YOUR RIGHTS and you are retarded if you think otherwise.

they won't.

No, you want to preserve the tradition of the founders. Your entire crusade against the so-called “woke right” (which is a blatant contradiction in terms) is actually based on your noticing of something real. Those that you call “woke right”, that is, nationalists, fascists, religious zealots and such, ARE actually opposed to American principles, even if many of them aren’t aware of it. What you are doing is attempting to get extreme right people back on the shabbos goy plantation of defending liberal democracy and American values of individualism, human rights, hard work etc. Basically, your job is to attack the rightist enemies of the Amerizog world order, because you are fundamentally a “liberal conservative”, which is not a contradiction in terms

maybe have some principals?

Your “principals” are of the milquetoast liberal faggots trying to maintain the status quo that got us here in the first place. The gene is out of the bottle. No amount of half-assed shame tactics by James Lindsay or Jordan Peterson will change that.

Obvious shill tactic
Clean it up jannys

Making shit up won’t change reality. Woketards were crying over the mouse became they said he was racist. But once again you have to cry “no u” and “nu uh” whenever your bullshit gets called out while pretending you’re not some faggot zionist neo-con shill that’s mad because people aren’t tolerating the bullshit and are openly calling it out.

uses typical leftist cope when jews are called out

Didn’t take long to drop the mask, eh retard?

Is that not what a good citizen is supposed to do?
Preserve the traditions of the men who founded the country?

oy vey the goyim know!

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Looking out for people who share your blood and origins is bad

looking out for people who claim they hold the same beliefs as you is good

Is there possibly a more retarded argument?

But it is though

woke is inherently steeped in cultural marxism, there is no such thing as "woke right" because the right by definition is not marxist.
all people want is racial awareness and a nation state like every other historic nation state, a state and country for a single nation.

lets be fair to the founders. They founded a white nation for whites only. Unfortunately that was perverted. If the founders were smart they would have sent the slaves back and banned slavery.

Not if they oppose israel, or at least that’s according to Lindsay and his gang of jocklecocks.

Then I'm woke. I couldn't care less what some retarded kike calls me.

woke is inherently steeped in cultural marxism

Now there is a term that they have been doing everything to bury the real meaning of.

I mean, I'd rather not live in the incoherent jewish science experiment known as "multiracial civilization" but for the time being, yes, agreed

Now show the doors for blacks, hispanics, and Asians.

I love this image. It highlights a problem I call "abstraction degeneracy" for lack of a better term. When a debate is sufficiently abstract it is logically impossible not to be a "hypocrite". For example I could get really abstract and view the world as things doing stuff. What happens when we try to have a debate in these terms?

i support some stuff

i oppose other stuff

Shit, looks like I'm a hypocrite.

you support some stuff

you oppose other stuff

Shit, looks like you're a hypocrite too. Everyone supports some stuff and opposes other stuff so everyone's a hypocrite. Debates like this are a waste of time other than to illustrate why debates like this are a waste of time.

We naturally organize the world into a hierarchy of abstractions.

golden retriever

dog

mammal

animal

etc

These all describe the same thing, with increasing levels of abstraction.

american shorthair

cat

mammal

animal

etc

These all describe a different thing, again with increasing levels of abstraction. Notice that despite these things being different, they become indistinguishable after we abstract past a certain point. This is the point at which abstraction degeneracy kicks in. If the terms of a debate cross this threshold, the debate becomes worthless. If you want to compare a golden retriever to an american shorthair then debating dog vs cat might be worthwhile, but debating mammal vs mammal is guaranteed to be a waste of time because the things you are comparing are equivalent at this level of abstraction.

Most modern debates take place in really abstract terms

people forming groups good or bad

people trading things good or bad

people excluding others good or bad

inequality existing good or bad

These are basically one step removed from

things doing stuff good or bad

which is why modern debating is so unproductive and usually degenerate into people calling each other hypocrites for supporting some things and opposing other things.

Yes, but the right should not aim to be good citizens in democratic states. Our countries are leading the white race off of a cliff, which is why we need regime change. This means the right should be (and is, slowly) turning in a revolutionary rather than conservative direction, because conserving our liberal societies is not in our interest

IF YOU TRY TO STOP SOMEONE FROM MURDERING YOU, YOU'RE NO BETTER THAN THE MURDERER!!!!

Any tactic to shame whites out of an identity of pride and solidarity huh?

Oy vey! White normal people asserting the same normal values that have been the foundation of America for centuries means they're the same as BIPOC LGBTQ+ tranny pansexual leftist woke people who have been shredding their traditional values and pissing all over the norms of their culture!!!

You're a retarded kike and this is some really shoddy pilpul.

woke means racist

Since when? God, shut the fuck up. Nobody cares about your pretend UM ACKSHULLY headcanon. Well you're acting like a faggot kike and I'm anti faggot kikes so I guess you're a faggot kike. This your reasoning only you are actually a faggot kike.

you're not allowed to have in group preference or promote your group interests b-because otherwise I'll call you "woke right"!

kek

They have lost the plot. By introducing idpol as a tool to mobilize their negro pets, they have resurrected the white man after 70 years of slumber. Now it cannot be stopped, the cycle of noticing feeds upon itself and the more they try to push it down the more it Streisands away. Buckle up buckaroos

It’s more so just a dishonest tactic which is used as nauseum to push a narrative. The people that spam arguments like it can never defend them since they’re not designed to be defended. They just use volume to give the impression that it is popular sentiment in order to fabricate consensus and make retards think it’s true.

This topic would be a lot easier to discuss if retards would just acknowledge the difference between majoritarian identity politics and minoritarian identity politics. The left is opposed to majoritarian identity politics because that is what white supremacy and Nazism are, but they are not and have never been opposed to minoritarian identity politics. Wokeness is essentially one manifestation of minoritarian identity politics, specifically the idea that there are hidden forms of hierarchy in society keeping [browns, gays, troons, etc.] down. Majoritarian identity politics implies an opposite politics of expansion and domination, which is why it cannot be defined as wokeness, because the essence of wokeness is not “someone who has concerns about group identities”. This is the silly obfuscation our latest batch of cucks is trying to pull to punch the people to their right on social and racial issues

If the terms of a debate cross this threshold, the debate becomes worthless

I should add that this is why most debates about "capitalism" etc are pointless and go nowhere.

Anyone who has tried to debate the US system vs the USSR system in these terms knows how these debates always play out. Someone will eventually point out that the government of the USSR effectively functioned as a monopolistic profit-seeking corporation and thus the USSR was also capitalism at which point the debate falls apart and people either move on to something more productive or isolate themselves in an echo chamber to procrastinate from moving on to something more productive. The notion of "capitalism" is so abstract as to be almost worthless because every society, including every nominally "anti-capitalist" society, will fit the definition of capitalism.

capitalism good or bad

effectively becomes

people doing stuff good or bad

and thus everyone becomes a hypocrite.

A huge part of why whites on both the left and right are so politically dysfunctional is because they are addicted to high abstractions. Many white people, particularly those from middle class backgrounds whose worldview is shaped by entertainment and media rather than direct interaction with the real world, genuinely do not know how to think at a low level. It's like how many programmers who only work with high level languages like javascript don't know anything about how computers work at a low level. Similarly, a huge part of why jews and asians are so successful is because they haven't lost the ability to think at a low level. Jews may sell high abstractions to whites, but jews themselves are very low-level thinkers when managing their own affairs.

Go ahead, define what a right winger is for the class. Put the line in the sand retard

We deserve better skills, but this tells me that anons may finally be winning the war of attrition with how many new guys they keep having to put here

There's nothing jews fear more than ethnic unity, and in group preference in other tribes, especially ones that are superior to themselves like whites and east Asians. If whites started being as nepotistic, and self serving as jews, their power would disappear over night.

whites

It’s more so just a dishonest tactic which is used as nauseum to push a narrative. The people that spam arguments like it can never defend them since they’re not designed to be defended.

Sure, but you need to distinguish between leftist ideologues and normal people who are influenced by them. The leftist ideologue is intellectually dishonest but normal are not. Normal people living in a leftist-dominated culture will passively absorb stuff when they are young and dumb, but they are willing to re-evaluate. That's why there is such a strong trend of people appearing "left wing" in youth but becoming more "right wing" with age. It's not that leftists changed, it's that leftists bombard normal young people with propaganda causing normal people to temporarily align with the left despite them not actually being leftists.

This is why the meme that debating leftists is a waste of time because they aren't intellectually honest etc is so destructive. The purpose of a debate is not to convince the other side, it's to convince the audience. Similarly its not the intellectual honesty of the opponent that makes a debate worthwhile or not worthwhile, it's the intellectual honesty of the audience. Debating intellectually dishonest leftists in front of intellectually honest audiences is a huge part of why "the right" started to regain public respect in the mid 2010s after almost 20 years of being seen as dumb and evil.

"Everyone else, especially jews, are allowed to have identity politics. BUT NOT YOU, WHITES!!!!!!!!!"

Dig into this guy's financials and I guarantee you there's going to be a "-witz" signing his paychecks.

this is a shill thread
eat a bag of dicks

Woke is being anti-white, so wouldn't being pro-white be inherently anti-woke?

STFU nigger

at least other races have reasons to be woke

Uhh... like what?

Woke means marxist

Faggot kike liar

we made our bed now its time to lie in it.

Oh wait, you are just some anti-white jew.

Lol James Lindsey uses Anon Babble now I guess

Just remember James, you're here forever

You might not want to play the ethnic superiority game but it wants to play you

Whites are a global minority and quickly becoming a minority in their own countries. Identity politics among whites is coming from a realization that lots of whites are looking around and seeing very few people like them in all major population centers.
Retard.

"If you kill your enemies they win"

Just listen to yourself and how stupid you are christ

That’s the thing though you can spot the ideologues easily because they never try to reevaluate. If you ask a basic question to a regular person they’re not going to immediately go into a series of prepared mental gymnastics weaving a web of logical fallacies and excuses for over an hour. They’ll try and fail to argue, and then leave.

be brown

low IQ

think you're winning

white racial consciousness

it's the same as nigger racial consciousness

The primary difference is that white racial consciousness is going to be based on conquering back what was given away.
Rather than complaining and wanting free shit.

woke right

It's a conquering force.

James Lindsay is a fat retarded faggot.

if your group is above it all and refuses to think ethnically, you can win easier than the morons that try to help "their people" and refuse to help "their enemies"

Incorrect. All sociological modelling suggests the exact opposite. Altruistic behaviours (Helping others) lead to a decline in the population and eventual extinction of the altruistic tribes. Meanwhile the selfish tribes flourish.

By contrast, racist altruism (Look up greenbeard altruism) causes the altruistic tribes to dominate the simulations.

Altruism with racist characteristics is the strongest sociological stance possible in a complex model.

Give me a job you fucking nigger!

ethnic warfare is the one game you can win by not playing

For at least my entire life that has not been true and suspect much longer than that.

49 people from SA really seems to be the thing they have a problem with?

The 49,000 Haitians, though...

Exactly image you have to hire someone for a job, you have your nephew or some smelly Indian guy. The choice is clear pick your family first.

I like how every discussion here is fake.

You are retarded and 12. Get off of Anon Babble stupid kid

Indians are meek tho, could boss them around. Plus they're really keen to be your friend from my limited experience.

White is good

Niggers are bad

Simple as

Reddit spacing

Hehehe

I could go on

Not trying to be rude here
.

Respectfully

Total nigger death

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woke means racist

Whoa, did the jews buy up all the dictionaries?

Woke means racist
Woke means being afraid of compromising with the left now that we're (very temporarily) in power
Woke means sacrificing all our gains just to say the n-word and whine about jews a bit
let's try not being woke for once

if you help your enemies, you win

You are incorrect.

I was with you until you ignored the drastic jewish overrepresentation in literally every subversive movement and institution of authority

if niggers are bad then why didn't you pick your own cotton?

No identity politics have been tried for DECADES. And the result is known. Whites played it, nonwhites gamed it and subverted the idea. We now know it is not possible and it will never be tried again.

Now it is tribe vs tribe. The nonwhites mae this decision. Race will never not be important from now on. The liberals still insisting on their failed ideas are intellectual retards stuck in 1980.

if we become woke (racist) then we are the exact same as Blacks and Muslims
you really want to act like a Black Muslim?

I’m not saying saying it’s a bad thing. I’m saying that white identity politics would be drastically different than minority identity politics if it were to be implemented, which is why conflating them as both the same because they’re both about identity is dumb. Also, the whole global minority thing is a low IQ point. There is no racial group that is a global majority. All of this takes place in the context of nations in which whites are the localized majority. The demographics of the world outside Western nations doesn’t really impact this topic

The Woke Lite are not conservatives in the traditional sense, nor are they the firebrand populists who fueled the MAGA movement’s ascendance in 2024. Instead, they are liberals who have drifted rightward, not out of conviction, but out of opportunism and/or discomfort with the left’s excesses. These individuals now seek to control and gatekeep while now undermining the very coalition that brought victory in 2024.

The Woke Lite did not build the 2024 coalition. That coalition—a vibrant, unruly alliance of working-class voters, cultural dissidents, —was forged through years of the crucible of grassroots energy, defiance of establishment norms, and a rejection of both progressive overreach and milquetoast Republicanism. The Woke Lite, by contrast, often stood on the sidelines or at times actively opposed this movement. Many of them, still tethered to the instincts of their liberal pasts, recoil at the coalition’s use of power, its willingness to confront the left head-on, and its rejection of the old rules and norms of political engagement. Some even worked to undermine the coalition at key moments, clinging to outdated notions of “civility” or “bipartisanship” that served only to dilute the Right’s resolve.

Perhaps the most damaging aspect of the Woke Lite’s influence is their aversion to wielding power against the left. While the MAGA movement understands that politics is a contest of strength, the Woke Lite preach restraint, caution, and compromise. This creates a lopsided dynamic where the left, unencumbered by such hesitations, wielded power ruthlessly—through institutions, media, and lawfare—to advance its agenda unopposed. By opposing efforts to match the left’s intensity, the Woke Lite effectively ensured that the Right fought with one hand tied behind its back. Their insistence on “playing nice” was not a moral stance but a strategic surrender, allowing the left to dominate cultural and political battles.

And, failing to control the narrative, it gives up and degenerates into useless shitposting. You aren’t the first and won’t be the last

what a fucking loser. no one cares about his retarded takes.

Silence pinche maricon la plays

james lindsay is a slightly disaffected shitlib who's realized his side has gone too far, and has pivoted to gatekeeping everyone who recognizes the stranglehold pissrael holds over western politicians. he's a disingenuous fake academic who deploys bad faith arguments onto the public space. in his ideal world, every White person would unilaterally disarm in the face of every other group organizing for their own benefits, especially if any of those White people notice the preference given to jews and pissrael.

Maybe your sense of morality has no cash value in the real world

Does he not realize they're still going to use idpol whether people use white idpol or not?

his side is empty

das right

The examples he gave on a podcast included "Not wanting to be undercut by foreigners imported to work for 25% of the cost and 200% of the hours" and "Not in support of Israel, against AIPAC"

He genuinely believes that unless you compete with Indians for Indian wages and conditions, you're invoking "DEI" to get into positions you don't deserve.

Whites played it, nonwhites gamed it and subverted the idea. We now know it is not possible and it will never be tried again

This is the most common-sense take on the matter

How much us it costing that engagement farming faggot to force this meme?

Isn't the whole concept of communism, essentially that there is no state? That all mankind is essentially a free person interacting with everyone else without a state?

right calls left woke

The Left: No u.

The left really can't meme.

they do realize this, but as the shabbos goyim gatekeepers they are, their shekels depend on attempts at "de-radicalization"

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glowies really got retarded

if you don't like jews, you're brown

if you don't like brown immigration, you're brown

if you hate kikes, you're woke

if you don't marry the 40 year old single mom, you're woke

and so on
NHH

i thought "woke" was a self given nomen by "progressives"
it just turned into shit, because it describes shitty people, just like the word "nigger"
i could be wrong though

neocons and zionists
youre woke right if you dont want infinite indian immigrants to boost the economy so we can "beat china" whatever that means

They say that, yeah, but it's effectively impossible to hold the 3 pillars without each other.

Stateless

Without money or commodity

Classless

Without a state, currency/commodity and class will develop naturally as time and resources are limited and people will want an assurance of reciprocated labor, people want things and will trade for them, but only if they get what they want.
Without money, you require a state, which naturally creates a class (In the state/out of the state) in order to command resources and labor and enforce consumption and effort regulations. You also need a state to prevent the creation of currency and commodities from being used.
Class always exists, the only way to try and suppress it, paradoxically, recreates class, those who enforce and those who are enforced against, and then those who can stomach using violence and are capable of acting on the desire for violence, and those who can not.

spiteful mutants just can't accept their betters
so they deny reality to rationalize their shittyness
give them power, and they will be ten times as evil as some industrie baron
the baron can accept bad times as they are and takes meassures, nice or not
mutants need to lay the failure at the feed of those he dislikes, calls them a bad name (counter revolutionary, bourgoiuse(?), racist, etc.) and then feels moraly justified to kill those
neocons are the same, but more clever

Your definition of "woke" is so retardedly broad that it can be applied to any group, racial or otherwise including you participating in crying out against the "woke right" you idiot. And this is assuming you're arguing this on good faith which, given the amount of times this thread is being spammed, how much people are trying to astroturf this moniker, and how much you're ignoring genuine responses I doubt it is.

Also, why can't you answer the question of whether or not it's okay to be white? Don't you think the fact that I asked this question to you 6 times in this thread with no response is telling? I know why you won't because no matter the answer you give, including the lack of one, provides a justification for my position that whites need to participate in identity politics.

Go spam this shit to boomers and neocons who might fall for slop like this but just slapping a meaningless label to people isn't enough to convince them of anything.

well, niggers and muzzies get what they want and more
i stopped giving non-euros money (no döner, almost no restaurents). if i see a brown service "person", i do a 360° and off i go

It's not though.

Why was it biased and benefited only the left in the first place? We need revenge before we can talk about no identity politics. The niggers and hindus need to be on chains for a few decades. When whites are in all the favorable job positions and have restored the fate they were cheated out of, then DEI for whites will no longer be necessary. You brought this on yourselves. You can't just scream like crybaby retard gorilla niggers for years about demanding everything and think people will forget. We need George Floyd in reverse, we need blacks to be in poverty and misery. Big companies are still hiring niggers that has to stop for 100% of them and go in reverse.

A big problem with it all is that people aren't capable of accepting and coming clean when they are wrong. If you can act well, you can differ culpability to others. This makes you look good. But poisons the well.