BREAKING: United States credit rating downgraded for the FIRST TIME in history!

first time

it's the last major branch to downgrade America's rating; this is NOT the first time. you just haven't been paying attention.

thank god. the feral government has way too much credit.

The other 2 had already downgraded it like a decade ago.
The question now is will they downgrade further

The question is who will continue to buy our debt.
$7 trillion matures in June/July.

who will continue to buy our debt

This.
finally an anon that gets it

What's the jew going to do, stop lending the money they conjure out of thin air? Get back in the oven.

That means the USA now pays more interest.

Deserved.

Criticism of either Isreal or the jews gets your cunt an immediate downgrade.
It is based on opinion (of a jew)

everyone. if you owe the bank $1 million, the bank owns you. if you owe the bank $1 billion, you own the bank.

Only on newly borrowed money, which would give Trump the reason he needs to do major cutbacks on federal aid.

pinning this on Trump

that is the whole motivation for what Trump has been trying to achieve with the tariffs.
the US is broke and might soon be incapable of repaying its interests

Rome also got buck broken by addiction to cheap foreign labour.

I don't think downgrade itself affects much.
But the question to ask is at what point will people go looking for safer haven. What's that inflection point.

BREAKING: United States credit rating downgraded for the FIRST TIME in history

You have 1.5 trillion on interest rates while you keep spending like maniacs a trillion for the Pentagon. So yeah, the collapse is inevitable.

I’m familiar with the saying, and it’s a drastic oversimplification.
People here love to say nothing ever happens.
It’s true until a cascading failure erupts.

No, quite the opposite.
He's the only one to acknowledge the decay and tries to turn the tide.
Make America great *AGAIN* implies it wasn't great thanks to those who came before.

He was the first one to be honest like that, hence his many enemies; he broke the decadent delusions of America's rotting elites and their pretended competence.

Agreed, see two posts down from your last.

To fix the debt crisis maybe we could... cut military spending, aid to Israel, and ACTUALLY tax corporations instead of pretending to tax corporations while they dodge everything because we have a billion holes in the tax code?

No instead we need to cut social security and raise the military budget

AUDIT THE FED. They make money out of thin air without requesting the US Treasury print new supply. All of this money gets funneled to Jews and rabid Judeo-Anglos. If the public were to know how much money was crafted without the US Treasury knowing, inflation would skyrocket to Zimbabwe levels before the day was over.

You're retarded. If we were to audit the fed the global economy would collapse and enter a worldwide depression. Letting the fed fund everything jewish is just a small tax we have to pay so modern American capitalism can function. Who cares if they pilfer here and there. You'd collapse the petro-dollar and thus end the US Navy.

kys gold and cryptocoin shill. I'm fart to invested.

He is doing literally all that and more though, what do you think peace results in?

Even regarding Israel he is pushing for a durable peace for a change by tackling the core issues - islam's moaning about jews and tolerance/incorporation of terorists.

Additionally as your ilk loves to point out the tariffs are in practice paid by the importers - the corporations.

And his "cutting social security" literally just boils down to cutting down a rotted, abused, retardedly bloated ineffective system and replacing it with more sensible and effective measures while his opponents just want more pointless and wasteful bureaucracy in practice.

The Goyim Credit Rating goes down every time Trump defies Netanyahu.
it's going to get downgraded even harder if he says NO to invading Iran.
it also might go down if Zelensky decides he didn't get to steal enough money from the US, he's somehow managed to be even greedier than Netanyahu who has already robbed the USA to the tune of 1~2 trillion dollars.

“All I care about is ME!…”

over a decade ago

the national debt was much less than $38 trillion.
and interest on the debt, didn't exceed our annual military spending as it does now
There's about 3 or 4 more years of $2T annual budgets—$12T total—before the bus hits the wall.
After that, there *will* be a total global implosion of the debt market (as if we're not close enough to that already rn mid-2025 and have been for the past two years)
instantaneous Mad Max

If your ilk is so intent on sabotaging the country, why should you not be killed in the street?

what was Rome's Moody's credit rating?

We need more politicians that have held office for 30 plus years to fix this while we blame it on the guy that has been in office for 5 and been sabotaged his entire life in office

You people really are stupid

everyone

Nobody's buying treasuries.
Corporate debt (which has been bad for at least 5 years) is shredding itself, a lot of restructuring. High yield spreads are slowly widening (and have been for a couple years). Compensation for risk is being demanded by the big—including investment bank-tier—lenders and cash flow, liquidity is shrinking with overall revenues flat.
Debt has to be paid, and bought. It can't just 'sit there' and everyone says "oh, well"
Per usual, no one itt except one anon at top of thread knows what tf is going on

everyone. if you owe the bank $1 million, the bank owns you. if you owe the bank $1 billion, you own the bank.

Nobody owes the bank 1 billion.

That's retarded, Biden and Obama openly chasticed and "defied" Netanyahuu, yet this is the first credit rating downgrade.

This is just the repercussions of the retarded market playing with low interest rates and easy credit in the first place.

"gibs me mo loans, I's neeb mo money."

The market sees failure as not an option because the market feels entitled to success.

Not disagreeing but just a general reminder that "the market" is not a distinct entity but rather an emergent one.

I know you probably know that, i'm just making sure.

Lot's of downgrades by moody's recently. Quebec had it's bonds downgraded a couple of months ago...

It's entirely the goyim causing their own credit rating to collapse. It's always been that way because goyim are goyim and cannot perceive the market as themselves. They will destroy whatever is infront of them to acquire some sort of ownership and control attributed to "themselves".

Not really, plenty of pretentious jews overestimate their own understanding and competence too, primarily those associated with Soros.

Smart enough to abuse the system as it is by knowing its limitations, dumb enough not to realise every limitation can break in turn and eventually does thanks to their actions.

See Trump's nevessary purge of corrupted judiciary, which he is thankfully approaching cautiously.

It's not a singular entity either.
But for simplicity the U.S. federal reserve is a singular entity.

well, we own the bank...

market playing with low interest rates and easy credit in the first place

Correct, the post-1970s global economy is Financialized (watch the linked YT video in that post)

Stock market doesn't matter though. What matters and what (You) need to watch is the *debt* (bond) market. Everything derives from and is founded on that
When the debt market implodes so goes everything

Private Rating Agency, owned by.....

Go on, I'll wait while you decipher who owns that PUBLISHING HOUSE attached to a Large Trading House.
Personally, bad time to be a rich guy with a private plane in Europe, what with all the bad parts they're getting out of China.

Emergent entities never are, but yeah for simplicity's sake.

It's just important to explain that for third parties as well, as they only rarely have real insight in the limitations and consequences of modelling.

Keep in mind your audience and all (especially here).

I used to think that if there was reincarnation, I wanted to come back as the President or the Pope or as a .400 baseball hitter. But now I would want to come back as the bond market. You can intimidate everybody.

That's why often times jews refer to eachother as goyim. Though soros probably isn't the best example of a jewish goyim.

It's not quite accurate to consider the population of the U.S. as jewish either.

Hahahahaha, I hope DC tries to succeed from the union.

Eh, in my experience any jew that unironically uses the word "goy" is pretty much always mediocre him or herself.

And yeah there's just a lot of jews, people (here especially) just like to oversimplify, generalise, conflate and scapegoat.

The Houthi deal shows it rather well: The pro-muzzie "jews" wanting Houthi victory, the oro-Israeli wants liking the situation as is because it was sandniggers angering everone and then the rest if us (non jews included) just being annoyed at the trade disruption and comissioning Trump's military intervention.

Warren Buffett

Warren Buffett owns the most shares of Moody's Corp. (MCO)2. The ownership structure of Moody's stock is a mix of institutional, retail, and individual investors13. Berkshire Hathaway Inc is the largest individual Moody's shareholder, owning 174.19M shares representing 96.82% of the company

Warren went to Cash in the last 2 quarters. lol

That's just how the Israelis see it.
Everything that went down with Bibi trying to be ousted put a sour taste in most Israelis mouths. They (Israelis) dont want international politics to play a role at all in Israel. Everything that's happened since then has been a response to that (trying to pust Bibi). You could draw more conclusions about whatever else has been going on around them, but as far as that goes, the knesset trying to strong arm the rest of the country isn't going to work.

As for the international market, the big players have been slowly hedging their bets against it for decades. It's just now coming out how fucked the market actually is.

"it's not like 2008, ok?"

"B... because it's just not, alright?"

Actually you could just come back as a central bank, because effectively they are the creators/manufacturers of the entirety of the bond market.

Warren Buffett

Yes he (Berkshire Hathaway) has apparently lately been dumping bank stocks. He smells something

leftists dont see a problem with 3rd world cannibals entering the country. but low credit score? its the end of the west

Why does the usa have a perfect rating at all? There is no way they will ever pay their debts unless they devalue their currency several times. Even then it will be hardly possible to get a budget surplus. UK is basically a bankrupt nation and they still have a decent rating.
It's seems it's just a tool to direct money to chosen countries. That's all. Otherwise rating don't make any sense.
It seems that those

Jewish Interests have sucked the blood of the children of America, killing their futures, now a trail of corpses behind them they are starting to leave.
EUROPE!
REJECT ALL JEWS.
EXPEL THE PARASITES.

I remember it doing so back around 2008.

cascade failure

What do you think this means? The US is literally the biggest economy in the world. California is the fourth largest economy alone. There is no failure to he had. If we "fail," we just discard the system as it is and start again. Small shitty countries will be destroyed in the process, but that never stopped the US before. You don't seem to understand reality very well.

$7 trillion matures in June/July.

They will cheat.

wow, jews are so mad, and stupid.
hahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahahhahahhahahahhah.
Muh credit score!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahhahahahahahahhahahahhahahhahahahaha!!!

instantaneous Mad Max

Yeah, I remember in 2009 after the financial crisis I was driving a concubine shipment in an armored truck to the Upper Midwest territory's warlord king, looking out at the burnt out countryside watching a group of people cannibalize some poor wayfarer, and wondered how things could have gotten so bad. Fortunately the economy rebounded and everyone stopped being feral scavengers and went back to work.

Let's not pretend that it will be painless, or else you would have defaulted already.
I also think you'll bounce back, but it will take a few years.

Trump, Musk, Visa, and the NYFed's largest primary dealers are working toward a tokenized-asset platform out of the new Texas stock exchange. Trump and Musk have been quietly working with some of the NYFed’s primary dealers and other fintech players to cement a new global, digital platform with DIGITAL WALLETS (which inherently require a DIGITAL ID) after the big banks and the SEC, etc just spent four years calling crypto a scam and killing off any undesired blockchain competition.

archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/499902179
^^^^ITT^^^, I outline how this asset-tokenization scheme is designed and its intended consolidation of Federal Reserve Uniparty power behind the scenes out of public view, as Musk and Trump claim the elimination of corruption and fraud, while eliminating any blockchain competition and simultaneously trying to establish a new need for their digital wallets and digital IDs.

As Trump and Musk superficially criticize the poor accounting, waste and fraud in the US government, they conveniently omit that JPM is the account validator for these fraudulent US government contracts/accounts and they ALSO never admit that the BANKRUPT, private 12 Federal Reserve franchises are the US government’s fiscal agents, cutting the 'untraceable' fraudulent checks.

Instead of identifying and rooting out the real financial entities facilitating this waste and fraud, Musk and Trump actively blame the ballooning debt and deficit spending on everything BUT Fed ‘accommodation’ and QE, while they simultaneously aid the 2008 banking failures in their current looting of our US Treasury via IORB and RRP, their further acquisition of tangible assets and their destruction of the value of our labor and national currency.

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This is fucking global. hurrrrrrr
Musk and his MOTHER privately met with Dimon and 200 of JPM's largest investors in Miami on Thurs Feb 6th, days before he began his 'audits' of the US Treasury and USAID revelations.

Fiat is given value BY A NATION'S CITIZENS.
If the nation's treasury is the one issuing it, fiat is not a problem.

The problem is almost all nations BORROW THEIR CURRENCY ISSUED BY A PRIVATE DEBT-BASED CENTRAL BANK in the NYFed/BIS/IMF cartel.

Again, if the nation's sovereign TREASURY issues the currency, then fiat is not a problem.
Currency is not meant to be hoarded and should never earn interest. A currency is the lifeblood of a nation's economy and is SUPPOSED TO BE a tool for the citizens to trade.

succeed from the union

The NYFed and its ilk are also now trying to convince the boomers to switch from private Federal Reserve-issued, debt-based Federal Reserve Notes to privately-issued blockchain tokens. This going to be priceless to watch. Neither of these currency options benefit the citizens, they only benefit the private issuer. Will boomers sell out once again to the banks?
And in the next orchestrated crisis are the boomers’ new asset tokens to become worthless, as the platform will hold the real asset?

When is the currency going to be restored to the people?

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I dunno, I never missed a meal during the first financial crisis. We'll be fine in general. It's not the 1930s. People also seem to not understand why the Great Depression was so bad: it bankrupted so many people because a lot of people bought not only stocks but EVERYTHING on margin. When the margins were called they were both financially and materially ruined. Now, if the economy tanks (like it did in 2008), I still have my tv, furniture, cell phone, etc. also so long as I keep the electricity and internet on, I want for little. Food is cheap. Economic recession now just means you won't make gains for a while. But if you weren't seeking gains anyway, little is impacted.

The people have a fucking right to a fucking debt free currency to be used as a tool for fucking commerce?

Why does it seem Trump and Musk are more loyal to the 12 private, now-bankrupt Federal Reserve regional franchises than to the citizens of the US?
Does Trump want to go down in history as the Fed's accomplice in its destruction of our nation and our currency, the US dollar?
Does Trump want to be remembered as the Woodrow Wilson of the 21st century?

All now working with Solana blockchain:
JPM
Trump
Milei
Fidelity
Blackrock
Musk’s X Money Account
Visa Direct

USE FUCKING CASH NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY YOU ARE IN.

It means they have to pay more to the Jew for their borrowing but it has a lot of other undesirable effects on investment, everything is just that little bit more expensive, now it's like lending money to Mexicans rather than whites, the next lower rating is nigger tier.

Just wait until the Social credit score is implemented, along with one of those socialists want it so badly, a Universal Basic Income.

They'll HIDE your costs to everyone else but you and make sure that (you) are the only one seeing it. IF you cant afford it, well NOBODY will care.

Then their social credit score implementation will be complete. You, who say nigger all the time or any other shit, will be barred from buying even basic anenemities with this, while anyone else will have everything they want. While you provide it all. Wouldnt matter what work you done.

but the court doesn't hide shit

see Ok sure thing bro. yea I "believe you" ..i don't. You only don't care if you have their dicks in your mouth right now

Is the only safe option to buy gold? What the fuck do I do I don't want to lose all my savings

holy fuck was your post stupid
that one must take some sort of prize

"Trump is a big meanie, so here I knocked how your goobie number by 1. Take that Crumpf!"

Sorry lil bro, couldn't hear you over shooting my legal to own tank.

ok cool. mark of the beast is totally a debunked theory. thanks for contributing.
I just showed how it would work. They WILL hide your costs to everyone else but yourself and cut you off from affording anything. everyone will get a UBI. ALL The NPC niggercattle won't CARE if you can't afford to buy food or anything if they don't see it so noone else can get inolved personally, with the image I posted how they will do it, all have a UBI, and with social credit score will blame you for your not being able to get anything.

but really at that time it won't be by definition affording. but you still will pretend you are a productive member of society, like your post now reflects

this
fucking world full of goldfish brains

oh sorry i misunderstood your post lol, but still it is rather confusing

They WILL hide your costs to everyone else but yourself and cut you off from affording anything. everyone will get a UBI.

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A reminder, Federal Reserve Notes are what are being issued to worthless oblivion and

the US dollar is a fucking UNIT

We need to AGAIN issue debt-free, Treasury-issued US Notes like we did before (and during) the bloodsucking, obsolete Federal Reserve. We need to AGAIN issue debt-free US Notes that are pegged to a basket of commonly-used weighted commodities, distributed by a series of state banks.

We can:
1 nationalize Fed banks
OR
2 dissolve Fed and have a series of state banks
OR
3 issue US Notes simultaneously AGAIN and eventually recycle worthless Federal Reserve Notes out of circulation
OR
4 YOU CAN RIGHT NOW: use cash/barter/stack/use credit unions/use cold wallets, these five things IMMEDIATELY transfer power directly to the people

USE CASH, NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY YOU ARE IN, cash IMMEDIATELY puts the power in the hands of the people.

Real paper cash:

is permissionless

is private

is anonymous

has no transaction fees

works in power outages

doesn’t need the internet

don't need to be a coder to use it

doesn't depend on another party having a device

everyone knows exactly how much they have

has no transaction limits or thresholds for reporting

money laundering is harder with physical cash, due to transport

is inclusive, it does not see race

is harder to use in ransoms

can’t be hacked

don’t need to remember a password to use it

IS the ultimate in payment platforms

using cash helps people to save money and budget

puts the power directly in the hands of the people

keeps the currency near the REAL goods and services

less paperwork

is face to face, not face to screen

makes government theft harder

Boycott businesses that do not take cash.
NEVER USE YOUR PHONE TO PAY.
Barter is the real torpedo to these fucking clowns.

The first down grade happened under king nigger obongo.

US government debt is denominated in US dollars which US government can just make out of thin air.

rule of thumb to judge government policies:
does said practice benefit the citizen or the government?
that will always lead you in the right direction

You will be hung soon

We'll be fine in general. It's not the 1930s.

You are not going starve, but many will lose pensions and cities will go bankrupt.

people that ALREADY WORK will be fine
lazy skimmers will have to be more useful

this is the GLOBAL Tent refugee program by the DHS
it circumvents immigration vetting, kek
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this is the psychopathic vitriolic, racist Alex Karp, the head of Palantir that has just been hired by Trump to create a people tracking app to monitor self-deportation
this is who fucking sells software to the fucking CIA
this violent, racist, megalomaniac piece of shit

you know what else has happened recently?

GOLD IS BAD DURRR

they have been attacking this option ... did yousee it?

WE CAN MAKES GOLD WITH MUH HADRON COLIDER

BTW PLS give more money for more colliders lol

totally 100% pure bullshit.

this is the psychopathic vitriolic, racist Alex Karp, the head of Palantir that has just been hired by Trump to create a people tracking app to monitor self-deportation

this is who fucking sells software to the fucking CIA

this violent, racist, megalomaniac piece of shit

lol i see them talking it down on cnbc
kek
they can do NOTHING to gold lol
and watching them trying to talk the boomers into digital over cash is also funny
i'm waiting for the boomers to turn, they will

This happened a decade ago.

>this violent, racist, megalomaniac piece of shit

I should give a shit about kike loaning metrics why?

Good thing nobody borrows money to buy housing desu

huh, that's straight up wrong. There's rating agencies out there already having the US as AA instead of AAA+, it happened like three years or so ago, I still remember it as one of the reasons to go into precious metals.

>>>this violent, racist, megalomaniac piece of shit

>>>>this violent, racist, megalomaniac piece of shit

>>>>>this violent, racist, megalomaniac piece of shit

this is who fucking selling software to our fucking government
these meritless, small-minded, power-hungry loseeers
they are fucking DEVOLUTION

I can see something like that happening in other countries but the United states would have to do a backflip over it's constitution to get that to happen.
Banks definitely want to see what people are buying though and are doing everything they can to prevent people from withdrawing cash from their accounts. That plus removing any stores and requiring all goods to be bought electronically and shipped directly to a place of residence.

The last thing they want is for the micro-economy to be dictated by something they dont have control of arbitrarily. That includes credit scores. They want to target people not based on those people's actions, but they do want to target people based on how much it benefit them at any given time. This has largely already happened and the last steps are already being rolled out. They dont need any chips under the skin, or scanners to figure it out. They only really care about making broad brush strokes over entire areas. Similar to the 15 min walkable cities bullshit.

like they don't give a single abitrary shit about you. if you don't go along in any way with any social shit they will give you nothing at all.

United states would have to do a backflip over it's constitution to get that to happen.

The constitution has been dead since 1865

While you provide it all.

The 'surveillance trifecta’, which you are willingly paying for, installing and beta-testing for free, (and btw, none of this surveillance grid is possible without your cell phone), which we are all constantly compelled to be a part of:
1) implement 5G every few hundred feet to provide a real time 3D matrix for temporal and spatial tracking
2) getting citizens to hold a digital wallet/digital ID and the implementation of a Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC) under the guise of a government stable coin (this failed already in the US)
3) vaccine passports (this also failed lel)

half the battle in life is being content with what you have
there is a saying:
living in the past brings depression
living in the future brings anxiety
living in the present brings contentment

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Sweden's 7-year, 98.8% cash-free, CBDC pilot just failed
Swedish officials said a sole-CBDC was a national security threat, only enriched the already-rich and cut the vulnerable entirely out of society.
fucking kek

That's sort of what I'm saying, but it's completely arbitrary. It has nothing to do with what you do or dont go along with. They're going to fuck people over simply based on their own needs and not what people are doing. They're going to cast wide nets over entire geographical areas, not micromanage individuals on a personal level. They're just going to fuck people over because they are from or in a certain city or state that they have decided to "get rid of". There's no "going along" with anything. They're just going to fuck people over regardless of anything.

young 'un is so young he doesn't even remember 2008

kike

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>>>>>>this violent, racist, megalomaniac piece of shit

it was a different company but you’re right

Never would've happened under Biden

Alex Karp lost it recently (2/18/25) on CNBC and said "if you are not with tech and jews you were going to be left behind”
Karp on CNBC:
youtu.be/DkSs1y2uwVc?t=1796
Karp also called himself and his tech buddies the 'builders' of things in this country. when he talked, his stock dropped like a rock

These fucking people have no business being in charge of anything.

pic related is who karp uses as an example of a 'super smart person' in the video above
these peeople are fucking nuts and destroying society with their low standards, war and supremacism

Why is nationalism fine for some countries, but not for others?
How is pointing out yourself as different from others making us all equal?
How is being discriminatory toward one group not racist, while at the same time favoring others?

People around the world are tribal and enjoy preservation of culture. It is a natural defense to gravitate to like-organisms, we see this phenomenon even down to the microbial level, as is evidenced in quorum sensing. Why are people made to feel guilty for this natural inclination? Why is nationalism fine and even encouraged for some, but not for others?

And why don't liberals like free speech if they really want everyone to have a voice?

Progressives and classists feign concern and ideals of egalitarianism for all, while simultaneously setting themselves apart, which then exposes their faux unity for everyone to see.

fucking plague

all of these people, all funded by the NYFed

Retard
Biden's policies consequences

Retard

DO YOUR FUCKING JOB FBI

<<<<——-archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/504503488/
The now-bankrupt Federal Reserve is building a $2.5 B complex in Washington DC and funding it with borrowed US taxpayer money. The Fed is fucking broke and putting Italian beehives in its extravagant rooftop gardens and building private elevators to VIP dining rooms, yet bloviating about the importance of citizens being able to communicate in a republic. lol

To add to the elitism and absurdity, Elon Musk, with his toothless, empty threats on his way out the door of DOGE, glibly stated, “someone should look into the Fed.”
Really? Is that it? What an absolute fucking joke.

It is fucking amazing that Trump’s economic advisor (Miran) wants to now indebt the US with 100 year bonds, so we can be skimmed for another fucking century by these insolvent frauds.

nypost.com/2025/04/27/business/federal-reserve-blows-2-5b-on-palace-of-versailles-hq/
archive.is/fpJ4J

How is this being seriously discussed? It's a political move. It also means nothing.

they won't do this on a personal level

yes they will. it's not called a social credit score for no reason. if you are a butt-kisser, you'll be given basic crap. be allowed to go on basic crap, like a county fair type of "vacations", everything being in their control, every thing every piece you buy, all way overpriced to drain you of any money. no matter how much harder you work, you'll end up with the same situation at the end and then have to be compelled to keep it up or get less. they can then fuck with you on a personal basis. Thats what theyll do. They don't need you or want you (at least they think that). personal buttkissers will be removed as well, eventually but theyll just use them to remove others. Anyone who takes up for this shit any is stupid, cause they will get rid of all of you. until they eventually are alone then realize it was bad to do so, thats when they will blame everyone else for (their) situation.

I'm here now to tell them fuck yourselves you are idiots, you are attempting to cause litereally human extinction, and if or when you succeed you are no better

they wouldnt want to destroy money if they didnt want to destroy you

they need dollars because there are hundreds of trillions in dollar denominated debts outstanding.

note this doesn't say

they need Federal Reserve Notes* because there are hundreds of trillions in Federal Reserve Note-denominated debts outstanding.

It is America the world invested in, not the sleazy, bankrupt Federal Reserve franchises currently looting the US Treasury and the NYFed that is currently looting almost every nation on the planet. Don't make me post the primary dealer lists of every infected nation. There are fucking dozens and dozens.

When will the national currencies be restored to their peoples?

When will the national currencies be restored to their peoples?

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this is why the Fed is bad for the nation, in addition to a hundred other bad effects they have and the endless multitude of cons they run

it means they will print more money and cause more inflation while lowering the interest rate and jacking up taxes. this is the most likely plan as the government needs money to keep being a corrupt kleptocracy and the only way to reduce inflation while keeping rock bottom interest rates is with heavy taxation. expect more dumb shit like the tariffs and maybe an unrealized gains tax, they're desperate and fucking retarded at the same time.

No it's a direct result of Trump's fuck ups. No one is buying dollars because of his tradewar shit and the euro is getting new highs daily.

will print more money and cause more inflation

keeping rock bottom interest rates

um

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Money is often falsely equated with productivity, intelligence, class, success, integrity, and/or good taste.
If you equate success with money, you will likely be perpetually dissatisfied, in a constant state of longing.

But if you VALUE THINGS WHICH CANNOT BE BOUGHT, such as:
community
family
work ethic
intellect
fitness
perseverance
cleanliness
honesty
integrity
compassion
tradition
loyalty
reliability
patience
humor
If you value the above, you will always be content and successful, no matter where you are or what you do.
Judge yourself by deed, not possession.

pic rel a rogue banker, VC Vickers, the head of the Bank of England (BoE), who quit the bank and advocated for agrarian guilds

until we can get rid of these fuckers, use fucking cash
NEVER USE YOUR PHONE TO PAY
ONLY USE COLD WALLETS IF YOU USE CRYPTO

Based, im 43 and oly voted twice in my life, both times for trump. accelerate. burn it all down. vote for the worst policy.

agrarian guilds

Who is their competition in the influence game? They throw around names like soros, gates, and usaid but I’ve yet to see the full picture. Assuming the FBI, DOJ, and SEC all fail to act do you think their competition has a viable chance at regaining control and what their endgame might look like now that maga is forcing their hand?

there is always this option, too, hopefully cooler heads will prevail

first time

LE RATING AGENCY.

You retarded shills spam this shit like they have any creditability.

greetings fellow third world flags

Who is their competition in the influence game?

US citizens
that is the very problem: the private, BROKE Fed franchises compete in the market with US citizens now
it wasn't supposed to be that way

any debt incurred UNDER DURESS is odious
pic definitely related

Trump and Musk can't keep hiding these financial entities and their roles in the current destruction of our country. Trump and Musk are also beholden to these banks for their funding.
There is more and more accumulating evidence of Trump and Musk working IN THE INTERESTS OF THE NYFED AND NOT THE PEOPLE.

Currency/money does not make food
labor, seeds, land, air, sun, and water make food— we have all of these things WITHOUT money, but if you remove any ONE of these things, you don’t have food.

FINANCE MUST BE THE SERVANT OF PRODUCTION, NOT ITS MASTER.
We cannot have unearned income at the expense of earned income.

THE PEOPLE HAVE THE FUCKING RIGHT TO A DEBT-FREE CURRENCY THAT BENEFITS THE CITIZENS

tick fucking tock

A DEBT-FREE CURRENCY THAT BENEFITS THE CITIZENS

That sounds like an oxymoron.

There is more and more accumulating evidence of Trump and Musk working IN THE INTERESTS OF THE NYFED AND NOT THE PEOPLE.

i have folder after folder, getting bigger and bigger

geez golly you are actually retarded fren have fun with you're CBDC

and that is purposeful
people don't even know the dollar is a unit
you really should have to pass a test to breed

We don't need to make any huge changes, the US Treasury can simultaneously issue debt-free US Notes for deficit spending (their issuance can also be backed by metals) and then slowly recycle worthless Federal Reserve Notes out of circulation, while paying off the old debt and not issuing any new debt.
Look at pic related, we have issued SIX types of notes SIMULTANEOUSLY for our currency needs, at one point in time.
The problem is not the currency, the problem is WHO IS ISSUING IT.

remember it is both sides

beholden to the NYfed is all that we have become. sad.

Moody's

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Berkshire Hathaway Inc, BlackRock, Inc., Vanguard Group Inc, TCI Fund Management Ltd, State Street Corp, Fmr Llc, VTSMX - Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund Investor Shares, VFINX - Vanguard 500 Index Fund Investor Shares, Geode Capital Management, Llc, and Akre Capital Management Llc .
Fair warning;
Bail.

inb4source

The people are their biggest threat clearly but they are vulnerable to influence. The maga techbro mafia has gotten as far as they have because they are the dominant influencers. I’m asking if you know who is their competition in guiding the minds of the people.

vanguard said we are 90% self sufficient
now vanguard wouldn't lie to the boomers, would they?
and the boomers wouldn't lie to us in return?!
lol

We are not paying for every other countries economy

Looks like your time is up America.

WTF?

>they are funded by the NYFed

You won't like this answer, but it's going to be bought by USD stablecoin providers.

Tether has like 100b, Trump started USD1 stable, and there are a bunch of others buying treasuries to back their stablecoins.

This is cool because as countries around the world are dumping USD treasuries and trying to trade outside the dollar the USD stablecoin market is offering USD directly to the citizens of those countries.

The way USD keeps its world reserve status is by expanding USD banking services to everyone around the world.

Eventually Bitcoin will win, but this is a cool intermediary play.

jews spent the last presidency pillaging the u.s.

<<<--and this, too, clogging up the courts, killing off blockchain competition, etc.

<<<--and this, too, clogging up the courts, killing off blockchain competition, etc.

are we EVER going to have any more than THIS?

MUH ROME

lol, shut up you illiterate faggot.

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capitalism is evil and must be destroyed

OMG WONT SOMEONE THINK OF THE CREDIT RATINGS!?!?!?!

do leftoids really?

I’m asking if you know who is their competition in guiding the minds of the people.

the people guide their own minds
humans will go extinct eventually, i'm not sure why everyone is competing rather than cooperating
always the violent, basal, greedy power-hungry 10% of society that ruin it for everyone

all it takes is 1 out of ten not to participate and it will destroy an entire system, any system

it is this greedy, unproductive class of skimmers that now have their lifestyle so utterly lavish and completely at the expense of 80% of the population, while producing nothing except derivatives contracts
we cannot have unearned income at the expense of earned income

also trump and Miran are trying to circumvent pic rel with forwards (futures for treasuries)
they are trying to make it so the US can sell its gold without paying down the debt

these NYFed sleazy fuckers are bankrupt and operating on ONLY $12B of capital and is ALL THAT THE NYFED PRIMARY DEALERS WOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR IN DISSOLUTION

I appreciate the content you have for this thread but

I’m asking if you know who is their competition in guiding the minds of the people.

Influence matters so much more than individual action. Who are they competing against and are they worth aiding? A grassroots rebellion seems like a pipe dream because the game has evolved.
People have the power to guide their own minds but everyone is vulnerable to influence especially when they are ignorant to the manipulation.

Ehm
So how bad is this? Happening? It's over?

First Time

Pretty sure we had our first credit downgrade under Obama in the early 2010's.

broke since Oct 2022

The Fed has coerced the US and the entire globe into a central bank-run state capitalist system. What you are witnessing is the corporate takeover of the USA by our own financial sector and its majority-owned stock in mega corporations. This is evidenced in not only recent corporate media surveillance and censorship, but also in the ongoing wealth transfer scheme of orchestrated booms and busts by the NYFed and its primary dealers (laundering their worthless Federal Reserve Notes into real assets held by their private incorporation). The NYFed itself now holds 1/3 of all US mortgages. This was illegal before 2008.

There is not a country on Earth that practices free market capitalism. The debt-based Federal Reserve is a con, plain and simple. God only knows what true capitalism, real price discovery and sovereign nations trading with each other in a free market would be like. Imagine sovereign nations issuing their own currencies. God only knows where we would be today, had the Federal Reserve and the IRS (both created in 1913, btw) never been created. No orchestrated booms and busts, no crony State Capitalism, no corporate tax subsidies, no failing IPOs, no QE, no counterfeiting Central Banks, no metal market rigging, no derivatives, no endless war financing. Only states were supposed to impose an income tax. We are so far from free market capitalism, it is staggering. This is the Federal Reserve Uniparty-- it is ALL sides, any orchestrated division is just to give you the illusion of choice.

why do you care?
are you asking me that to make money?

Influence matters so much more than individual action.

lol fucking maybe for YOU
like I say, AI only impresses the stupid

A grassroots rebellion seems like a pipe dream because the game has evolved.

i never suggested this

you're overthinking it
just use cash

No one is really expecting boomers to:
1 admit what they have done
2 apologize for it
3 see what they can do to fix it now

But everyone is expecting boomers to:
1 double-the-fuck-down on their greed, arrogance and hubris

and pic rel is more bad news
like I said before only lazy skimmers are about to be uncomfortable
for normal people that fucking work everyday and really run this country, things won't be any different

first world and third world are about to become second world
i call this a 'great evening'

it doesn't matter if you're on top, if there's nothing to be on top of

and pic rel is more bad news

oops here is image for this

OH NO NOT THE COUNTRY'S HECKING CREDIT RATING-A-RINO!
At least half of the population of the US has a shit credit rating.

That's what I was thinking, I for sure remember it downgrading from AAA to Aa or some shit a few years ago.
Also, kek at the fuckind yids acting like us twlling them to fuck off and keeping their money would be a bad thing.

United States credit rating downgraded for the FIRST TIME in history

Oh look, a thing liberals probably didn't know existed until today, where they're suddenly acting like professionals on the topic.

It's the biggest because of speculative valuations. Speculation spurs growth nearly exponentially when the credit line is open, when it's not, you're gonna go down just as hard in GDP as you went up.

I care because I want to get a sense of the bigger picture. I want to know if their enemies are my friends or simply my enemy’s enemy.
If I wanted money I’d be focused on the waves of volatility their racket thrives on. Wall Street has been an open raid and their bots online telegraph the moves before they happen. Their playbook has not changed much from their memestock and crypto scams.
It’s a fact that humans are vulnerable to influence. AI is just a tool in their box. Humans are a lot less vulnerable when they are aware of their vulnerabilities.
I did
I’m definitely overthinking I tend to live in the future

half the battle in life is being content with what you have

there is a saying:
living in the past brings depression
living in the future brings anxiety
living in the present brings contentment
The concept of this quote is a problem I struggle with

telegraph the moves before they happen.

i saw this narrative yesterday being pushed on here
their announcements are to sway the public for fleecing pic rel
like a giant donkey running back and forth for a carrot
memecoins will destroy blockchain as a form of currency, ironically

$99M stolen from argentinians desperate for a stable currency

let me guess (who) does the downgrading...

>$99M stolen from argentinians desperate for a stable currency

Yellen yelling
Poetry

>>$99M stolen from argentinians desperate for a stable currency

shall i mention the gold, too?

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if you owe the bank $1 million, the bank owns you. if you owe the bank $1 billion, you own the bank.

People like you really have a childish view of global economics. You're just so fucking stupid.

THIS is what to watch now. THIS is where it all comes down.
brics.br/en/news/brics-summit-will-be-held-in-rio-de-janeiro-on-july-6-7
Most of what will be disclosed is already in use. mBridge, the Unit, etc.
Meantime, if you're an investor, only go with emerging markets. Do not bother to invest in the US or Europe now. More is changing than people know.

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Michael Burry also sold all his stocks yesterday.
Just heard thru a pipeline.

he used a memeflag to say this

Damn, it's almost like...nah, couldn't be. THere's no way to pattern recognize your way into seeing what's behind the lamppost.

I am making part 4 of 4 for my thread series and the following is a focus of the paper:

also trump and Miran are trying to circumvent pic rel with forwards (futures for treasuries)

they are trying to make it so the US can sell its gold without paying down the debt

as seen in the image in trying to indebt us to the Fed for another 100 years
they are going to ask the major holders of bonds to term out their short term holdings into 100 year (century bonds)

major holders of bills and notes*

kek

Gook of truth

Trust the plan.
Libcucks desperate to downplay all the accomplishments we’ve made.

WTF ARE ALL YOU NIGGERS TAKING THE BAIT?
This thread was created by /leftypol/
50+ of threads are created by them to bait your stupid retards so you waste your life away replying to this nonsense.

FUCKING STOP REPLYING TO THIS SHIT YOU FUCKING MORONS>

The fact though is that the MAGAites have no clue as to what Trump is really up to over in the ME. They don't even know the questions to ask.

I would slash social security 100% and deny gibs to non-citizens.

but muh old people

Boo hoo

Only solution to your trillions in debt is goblinogeddon and jeetpocalypse

The question is who will continue to buy our debt.

the jews should buy it. they are the greatest US ally and the richest group worldwide

Yeah, he keeps people like RFK and the maga crowd celebrities here doing their maga thing.
But the real power and money is always with him, on his latest jet, doing deals for themselves. He's best at distracting.

China will be buying all the US debt.
What do they get in return?
They already have what they're getting.
Land.

Land.

I think we should back US Notes with land.

plenty of it

FIRST TIME in history!

Capitalism is collapsing

May 16. ha
The day Corney/Comey wrote seashells in the sand.
Nice distract.

no

Daily reminder:
The State Capitalist/Communist Regime of the Federal Reserve Uniparty

There is Free Market Capitalism, which we do NOT practice. This is when you have competition & the rewarding of success.
We practice State Capitalism (low-grade communism) in which the central bank rewards their buddies whether or not they are successful. They also launder their worthless Federal Reserve Notes into real assets while doing so, which are then held by their private corporation. This is State Capitalism.

Again, NOT to be confused with free market capitalism, which is probably only truly practiced somewhere in the Andes.

The Federal Reserve is a group of 12 private, incorporated, regional franchises (they can each be sued) & is the driving force behind the corporate takeover of our government.

State Capitalism (aka low grade communism directed by the central bank):

the state has considerable control over the allocation of credit & investment

planning to protect & advance the interests of big business against the interests of consumers.

government controls the economy & essentially acts like a single huge corporation

publicly listed corporations in which the state has controlling shares

The Fed con in 105 posts.
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/306098770/
Correction in archived thread: change mortgagee to mortgagor

Fed info & links to house & senate crypto summaries:
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/329381702/

Criminal activities of the NYFed's primary dealers
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/342538518/

The NYFed investing in China:
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/359651784/#359683568

Ukraine & its owner, the NYFed: archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/373203255/

Fed thread: archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/389999787/

June 2023 Fed thread: archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/428705533/

The irony here is that we are, in real time right now, witnessing the failure of low grade communism, aka state capitalism.

Thread from Feb 6th 2025 194 posts
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/496654194

200 post thread from Nov 10 2024
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/487963430/#q487963430

the great irony here, is the more cash the public uses, the more it forces the Fed franchises to hold the interest-free fiat as liabilities (aka CIC cash in circulation) and thus, making US taxpayers’ dollars less available to be spent paying out the liabilities of IORB to primary dealers and interest on reverse repo transactions to MMFs
as seen in the top half of picrel

state capitalism

James dimon and klaus schwab call it stakeholder capitalism, this is mere semantics
and do note how only stakeholders matter in "stakeholder capitalism" economic system

Nigger women probably unironically killed people this way. Why are they so fucking stupid? Fucking nigger pieces of shit. They are the most selfish, orc-esque ugly nigger retard gorillas i've ever seen. They deserve to be single, no race wants them not even their own men. If niggers could choose the gender of the child nigger women wouldn't exist anymore. lmao

do note how only stakeholders matter in "stakeholder capitalism" economic system

just like the following:

The NYFed’s primary dealers and their ilk want to tokenize all asset classes so they remain in a top, untouchable tier of shareholders that takes no risk and always gets paid.
pic related: JPMC is JPM, the largest owner of the NYFed private franchise
The NYFed-ilk BlackRock and Citadel have just opened a new exchange in Texas, where there are no capital gains on metals.
So, they are likely looking to have some con that involves switching from one asset class token to another (from treasuries tokens to MBS tokens to metals tokens) via blockchain asset tokens, then leaving with their gold assets with no capital gains.
These asset tokens would also allow fractional ownership, so they can fleece even the poorest investor.

Central banks are now acquiring gold to back their own currencies, NOT to convert from gold to digital, but to give them a seat at the NYFed/BIS/IMF TOKENIZED ASSET table
the global pie is getting bigger for these classists, as they sell each of their own nation's future productivity, making the domestic pie much smaller for each citizen.

This happens every couple of years

Foreign aid is pretty small though we can cut all of it
Probably should stop spying on Americans , that would save a lot of money
Close most foreign military basis
There are stuff we can easily cut that won’t annoying even 1% of the population

i have hijacked many a slide thread

The NYFed’s primary dealers and their ilk want to tokenize all asset classes so they remain in a top, untouchable tier of shareholders that takes no risk and always gets paid.

the platform holds the real asset
everyone else gets fucked in a crash

nothing ever happens. dont listen to memeflags or people from twitter.

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Anyone with luke warm IQ knows this is being done on purpose to make the middle class desperate and start selling their shit off for cheap for the rich to buy. The rich are getting richer the poor are getting poorer

the platform holds the real asset

everyone else gets fucked in a crash

What if I AM the bank who owes another bank you midwit retard

Credit-based fiat, interest-free US Notes issued by the US treasury to use for daily commerce are very different from debt-based, borrowed, private, interest-bearing Federal Reserve Notes issued by the bloodsucking NYFed, which are then also used to primarily reinvest back into the NYFed’s securities casino.

‘Investing’ is just people further bankrupting the US by putting the NYFed’s private Federal Reserve Notes back into their debt-based system via the treasury market.

the legislative volley between boomers and billionaires that leaves everyone out:
NYFed owners say they need more taxes from social security/medicare payments to pay them interest
boomers say big bank fleecing of the country is fine as long as they're getting social security
and they both continue to make laws to protect their positions, so now, effectively all wealth is going to the old and dying

No way.
Everything that is done to keep the elitists in power is done on the ground, in every single part of every US state. They own all the local/state politicians. The promise and build their factories (mostly for the MIC) throughout the US, bringing jobs and money locally. The pols that allow them to do that, get put in office.
The elitists write the laws and regs necessary to do what they do.
If you force them out, then it's goodbye to highways, road upkeep, all infrastructure, jobs and revenue thru taxes.
Just not going to happen.
The entire US system is based on symbiotic, rotten connections.

fpbp
/thread

they simply roll over the debt and refinance it at a mucher higher intrest rate. ad infinitum until otherfags no longer want to buy the debt. Then the FED has to step in and buy directly or indirectly and then you got the zimbabwe cycle going. At least the debt will be inflated away at record speeds .enjoy you are now debtfree. KEK

Rating agencies are a scam anyways they allowed the housing crisis to crash the economy decades ago

1pbtid and you all fall for it everytime.

no one is falling for shit
no one gives a fuck about OP, it is the topic

enjoy you are now debtfree. KEK

as if you are on the outside looking in
you might as well be in NY lol

And don't forget BRICS Pay works with SWIFT, too

A BRICS SINGLE currency also benefits the NYFed, who has been destroying America from within for decades:
A BRICS currency:
1) would abolish the local currencies of ~30 nations that the NYFed can’t really get its hooks in now
2) while also fooling those ~30 nations into thinking they have now gained an advantage over the US
and
3) A BRICS currency rejects the Federal Reserve Note while falsely conflating it with the US Dollar, destroying the US Dollar on the global stage, subverting the US' stability.

The only way a BRICS system succeeds is if its member countries KEEP THEIR LOCAL CURRENCIES.

Once the NYFed's global "issue currency for bond debt" scheme begins to falter globally, next the US itself will then turn on the Fed, as most people will start to question the interest on this debt and start to question WHY THE US HAS TO BORROW ITS OWN FUCKING CURRENCY.

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The only way a BRICS system succeeds is if its member countries KEEP THEIR LOCAL CURRENCIES.

pic rel
zambia gets it
forcing the world to use the Federal Reserve Note only benefits the NOW FUCKING BANKRUPT Federal Reserve private shareholders

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economy only represents the elites so who gives a fuck. let it crash. kill the dollar. make the elite kill themselves

Probably, but it's unironically thanks to dei. The nursing program would weed any of them out under normal circumstances.

forcing the world to use the Federal Reserve Note only benefits the NOW FUCKING BANKRUPT Federal Reserve franchises and their private shareholders

The now-bankrupt Federal Reserve franchise collateralizes their worthless Federal Reserve Notes with US treasuries (aka securities).
The 12 Fed franchises are now bankrupt and don't have enough collateral to request more fiat. It is being suggested now to take regional Fed shareholder capital or even regional Fed owner’s assets to back their worthless Federal Reserve Notes under Section 2 of the Federal Reserve Act.

Every uncollateralized Federal Reserve Note being issued today is a lien on the assets (and shareholder capital) of the now-bankrupt NYFed's owners, including its largest owner, JPM.
How is JPM making record profits when the NYFed's private franchise ITSELF is ~$130B in the hole?
Why is JPM still being paid dividends when the NYFed is insolvent?

When money replaces actual success, only the sleazy will be rich.

USE FUCKING CASH

The 12 Fed franchises are now bankrupt and don't have enough collateral to request more fiat.

The more people use cash, the more we force the Fed to serve the public by holding more fiat in its liabilities.
pic defintely related

It's obvious this is political bullshit just to "prove" the orange man is bad, by making obvious political maneuvers to "prove" that.
The economy is actually turning around after bribem's shitty fraudulent administration fucked it up and NOW they fuck with the credit rating? It's obviously bullshit.

empire

United States credit rating downgraded for the FIRST TIME in history!

Lies. Obama did it first.

The 2011 S&P downgrade was the first time the US federal government was given a rating below AAA. S&P had announced a negative outlook on the AAA rating in April 2011. The downgrade to AA+ occurred four days after the 112th United States Congress voted to raise the debt ceiling of the federal government by means of the Budget Control Act of 2011 on August 2, 2011.

The NYFed runs the fucking planet, make no mistake about it.
<<<——— the international banking cartel driving humanity into the ground

private owners of the NYFed, aka shareholders aka primary dealers

privately-incorporated company

market makers for US treasuries

used to be 46, now there are 24

Five-time felon JPM is the largest

Behold, people! The failures of 2008 on fucking QE steroids.

24 nation-less financial corporations destroying the planet with national indebtedness, purposeful arbitrage and false scarcity

<<<<----also, NYFed fulfilled its diversity requirement by adding a new Primary Dealer, ASL Capital Markets, owned by an Arab banker (a minority-owned business), been in business three years and now issuing our currency

Yeh it wasn’t 50 years of bad fiscal policy and jews robbing the treasury blind.

Its orange Hitlers fault

then you got the zimbabwe cycle going.

I can't wait to be a gorillionare!!!!

It’s also been lowered twice before once in 2011 and once in 2023

Buy gold or land

The Bank Of International Settlements (BIS) is the head of all debt-based central banks (and founded by JPM) and was created in 1930 under the Versailles Treaty to get money from Germany for all the nasty shit they did in WWI.
The Federal Reserve and the Bank of England existed way before the BIS, the BIS morphed into their central clearing house and check-kiting hub for the first fractional-reserve, fiat, debt-based central banking schemes run in a few countries and then expanded from there to installing its central banks in over sixty countries.
Pic related
Note Iran, Iraq, Cuba, Syria, North Korea, Afghanistan, and Venezuela are NOT on the list lol
Note China IS ON THE LIST

China begged to be in the basket of currencies under the IMF and BIS in 2015 and the yuan was finally used in 2017

only took the NYFed four years to get China bent over the table

Damn

Note Ukraine is NOT on the list, as it was a 2014 freshly-installed regional NYFed bank branch, it was still on probation
Russia is looking to get off the list.

The NYFed is similar to a space ship in sci-fi movies that hovers over nations and sucks up all the resources, slowly orbiting the planet.
Note that the NYFed and the Fed Board of Governors were just added as separate entities on this list

It dropped under Obama, so its not the first time.

Note that the NYFed and the Fed Board of Governors were just added as separate entities on this list

pic rel is old list for comparison

Tether has like 100b

So... not even enough to finance 1/17th of our deficit? I mean, they are free to buy treasuries like anyone else but the US needs to borrow close to 2 trillion per year. That's probably bigger than the market caps of all stablecoins combined.

This, the problem is that political move( downgrade ) will cost the US government/ citizens trillions in extra interest on borrowed money.
That politically motivated downgrade was an intentional attack on America , and the people that did are traitors and should be killed.

An India anon’s thread on the NYFed’s primary dealers:
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/419352960/
<<<<——this thread shows the SAME primary dealers in all of the debt-based central banks listed in the image in , which reads just like the list of the NYFed’s primary dealers as seen in
A couple examples of the above can be seen in the images in and .

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Hmmm the ones not on the list are the ones we have been invading / destroying recently ( except North Korea and they have nukes and China as a protector).
Hmmmm

The current destruction and subversion of the US by the Federal Reserve using:

-QE to counterfeit our currency & undermine its value
-MBSs to acquire land & buildings
-Congressional Public Issues for deficit spending to destroy the futures of the nation & the youth
-the Intragovernmental Debt system to skim off of GAS treasuries & the non-marketable government securities of US savings bonds, SLGSs (special securities issued for states and cities) & large government retirement funds such as the Thrift Savings Fund (managed by BlackRock), etc.
-their repo casino to pawn treasuries & undermine long term investment
-reverse repos to pay MMFs to NOT invest in the US economy
-metal market rigging via paper contracts to keep the prices of silver & gold low
-margin loans to fund risky hedge funds and family offices that endanger our global economy
-FX market rigging to check kite at their other implemented debt-based central banks
-the US taxpayer to fund the Ukraine war and steal its resources
-their authority to undermine innovation in crypto
-inflation to destroy the middle class
-interest rate hikes to kill off more small banks
-China investment to undermine the US and global stability
-regional bank vulnerability to target entire sectors
-its clout to protect its largest primary dealer, JPM, from prosecution for aiding and abetting sex trafficking at the highest levels of government, industry and finance
-their Sect 13.3 emergency powers to misallocate capital, reward failure and acquire assets during their avoidable, engineered crises using SPV (Special Purpose Vehicle) LLCs
-conflation of their increasingly-WORTHLESS Federal Reserve Note with the US Dollar (which is a fucking UNIT), thus destroying the value of a US Dollar on the world stage & threatening our global economy and national security

We need to dissolve the Fed, nationalize its twelve regional Federal Reserve bank franchises & AGAIN ISSUE debt-free US Notes.

pic rel failed but was still suggested lol

this is the real list
note mexico is ON it
this is the real bloc

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you don't understand. the countries we paid with this debt will have just as bad of economic meltdowns as we will in a scenario like this. quite literally the united states still holds the cards because no other country has an economy so incredibly powerful.

americans are rich as FUUUUUUUUUUCK compared to the rest of the world. it's not even close. investing in america is by FAR the best way to get a return (and reasonably expect to not get your money confiscated or stolen)

americans are rich as FUUUUUUUUUUCK compared to the rest of the world. it's not even close. investing in america is by FAR the best way to get a return (and reasonably expect to not get your money confiscated or stolen)

this is true and I think america is about to bulldoze right over the fucking bankrupt Fed
THE US IS WEALTHY IN SPITE OF THE FED NOT BECAUSE OF THE FED

sounds like bong cope desu

IN SPITE OF THE FED NOT BECAUSE OF THE FED

Austin is the new silicon valley of the south

Why is the NOW over $1.1 Trillion/year in interest paid on our Marketable (aka Public Issues) and Intragovernmental Debt (aka GAS treasuries) never included in the deficit?
B/c the Fed gets paid first by the IRS, as the NYFed is the US Treasury's operating fiscal agent, then what is left over from IRS tax revenues, the NYFed then deposits into the Treasury General Account (aka TGA).
IOW, the fucking interest is taken out FIRST from tax revenues by the NYFed AND IS NEVER EVEN ON THE DEFICIT CHOPPING BLOCK.

With a red sweep, we will be able to see the Federal Reserve Uniparty in full view. Constant gridlock in Congress has concealed the true power of the Federal Reserve Uniparty.
Don’t forget that the right had prior full control for at least a year under Trump and passed NOTHING in regard to the INSOLVENT, private Fed franchises that are now bankrupting the US Treasury for every last dime they can get (mostly the NYFed).

Why don't we just issue US Notes ONLY for deficit spending? US Notes BENEFIT THE CITIZENS and DO NOT ADD TO our current debt. They could also be digital, only to be used in the US. Why don’t Musk and Trump ever suggest this? This is already fucking legal.
US Notes circumvent the need to borrow our currency from the Federal Reserve, that's fucking why.
Why do ALL of the proposed solutions to our debt only include the bankrupt Federal Reserve?

US NOTES ARE NOT A NOVEL IDEA, THEY JUST DON'T BENEFIT THE FEDERAL RESERVE, WHICH IS WHY US NOTES ARE NEVER MENTIONED DESPITE BEING THE EXACT SOLUTION THAT WE NEED RIGHT FUCKING NOW

You're not supposed to think about it, just do whatever the man on TV tells you to.

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Federal Reserve Thread Series Part 1 of 4
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/489468608
This thread summarizes the first of a series of four recent separate economics papers examining the current insolvency of the 12 regional Federal Reserve franchises.

In this first paper, Kupiec and Pollock show that the Federal Reserve franchises are insolvent if GAAP accounting is used, which the Fed does not use. The Fed is now balancing their books with an imaginary, 'magic' accounting column called 'Deferred Assets' to perpetuate their bankrupting of the US Treasury and the American taxpayer and to hide their losses and now uncollateralized Federal Reserve Notes. These are operating losses, which don't even include the capital losses from marking-to market their now-worthless securities either, further skewing the real price of credit and hampering the Fed's ability to respond to shocks to the economy, as their balance sheet is full and there is no room to move.

The Fed franchises have only become more insolvent since the paper was released, their losses doubling since Jan 2024 to the tune of ~$214 Billion as of this week.
This thread summarizes how the Fed is insolvent, operating illegally, opening itself up for lawsuits and destroying the American economy when it could just roll off its balance sheet and take cash losses like that. Instead, the Fed franchises choose to take cash losses by still paying their owners dividends and paying out interest to NYFed primary dealers via IORB and to MMFs in Reverse Repo transactions.

’Federal Reserve Losses and Monetary Policy’ Jan 2024
Paul H. Kupiec, Senior Fellow, American Enterprise Institute
Alex J. Pollock, Senior Fellow, Mises Institute
papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4712022

sounds like they gotten realistic
Be honest, would YOU really lend anyone money who lives with niggers?

Federal Reserve Thread Series Part 2 of 4
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/491506260/
This thread summarizes the second of a series of four recent separate economics papers examining the current insolvency of the 12 regional Federal Reserve franchises (aka ‘Fed bank/s’ ITT). This paper uses Ordinary Least Squares (OLS) linear regression analysis to examine how shocks from three variables: federal debt, the Federal Reserve assets and/or real GDP affect CPI (chosen to represent prices and inflation).

Mr. Webster’s paper describes how quickly prices respond to shocks in the above three variables and how quickly a new (often higher) price equilibrium is found and how the rest of the system converges to support this new price equilibrium. This paper seeks to measure how quickly the now-insolvent Fed banks enable or ‘accommodate’ the deficit-ridden US government by purchasing securities and how this accommodation then contributes to inflation and price hikes, as measured by CPI.

The Fed banks’ ‘accommodative’ QE purchases of excess US Marketable Debt make room for even more new debt to be issued and *hopefully* sold. This is called Fed ‘accommodation’ and is now becoming a ‘debt death spiral’, which is when a nation (or corporation) has to issue new debt to raise the funds to pay the interest on its old debt. Unfortunately, this new constant debt issuance floods the economy with new currency, mostly enriching the proximal investment class and exacerbating inflation for the rest of us. These QE policies have also led to the insolvency of the Federal Reserve today, massive capital losses and full balance sheets with no room for the Fed to move, further handicapping the debt-based central bank.

The Myth of Fed Political Independence
Thomas J. Webster, Professor Emeritus, Lubin School of Business, Pace University, New York, NY.
papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4916388

funny given that Trump whined that Obama was going to be the one to do this. And yet here we are.
Kill all Republicans.

Always glad when you post all this on a thread, anon. It's going down fast, isn't it?
And WW3 on the way too.
They're lining up the pieces.

Federal Reserve Thread Series Part 3 of 4
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/494723606/
This thread summarizes the third in a series of four recent economics papers examining the current insolvency of the 12 regional Federal Reserve franchises.

The third paper explores options for reformation or replacement (abolition!) of the insolvent Fed. The paper begins with a historical analysis that chronicles the Fed’s many past policy failures & their respective crises & how the Fed’s response to said crises further enabled Fed accommodation of $trillions in deficit spending by Congress. The Fed’s four ‘prescriptive’ rounds of QE purchases of US treasuries & MBSs have now resulted in hundreds of billions of embarrassing Fed capital losses & ZERO remittance to the US Treasury since October 2022. But, somehow the Fed is still able to pay out dividends to its shareholders and able to pay out interest on Reserve Balances (IORB) to banks & interest on reverse repo transactions to money market funds (MMFs).

This paper has broad rule recommendations that aim to rein in the Fed & reduce both manipulation & subsidies by Fed market interference. However, these rule recommendations do not address the inflation and recessions already caused by the Fed’s monetary policies. These monetary policy shortcomings could be directly addressed by 1) the abolition of the Fed(!), 2) free banking & 3) commodity-backed money. This paper loosely represents a coalition of conservative groups & their suggestions on how to fix the insolvent Federal Reserve. It examines the current system of borrowing the Fed's private currency, the Federal Reserve Note, & how we can return the role of currency issuance back to the US Treasury, & thus back to the people.

Project 2025 Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise (April 2023)
Chapter 24: ‘Federal Reserve’
Paul Winfree (& additional contributors)
static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeaders

I think the main goal of the tariffs was for them to end up as a masive consumer tax on spending. The whole narrative about liberation day was a cover to introduce a 10% tax hike on pretty much everything for the American people without them rioting. If other countries had made concessions to the US, those would have been a nice-to-have on the side.

DOGE was to cut back spending, tariffs are to increase income. All signs point to the US trying to avoid bankruptcy.

The Yemenis might actually buckbreak US military interventionism by the random chance that their bombings coincide with America going broke.

yea monday is going to be a interesting day on the market

The third paper was weak, but the first of its kind to suggest the abolition of the Fed. One of the paper’s shortcomings detailed in an excerpt from the Part 3 of 4 thread:

*************** I pause the thread here to point out another egregious error right in the middle of the economic paper being examined. As I have noted before in past threads, such high school-tier errors are so bad that it looks as though these economics papers are not even proofread at all.
Picrel is the error and the following text is what I think the author was trying to convey:

If government issues too much paper currency, then citizens will doubt the gold peg and turn in their paper for gold from their banks, and these Tier 2 banks, in turn, will then redeem that same paper from the US Treasury and drain the government’s gold

Please feel free to correct me if I am missing something.

To make such an egregious error in the most important sentence in the entire paper begs the question, was it on purpose, mocking the public or are they trying to trick the public into turning in their gold again lololol?
The error in pic related is an example that NO ONE is watching or correcting these people. This author worked for Trump as an economic advisor in his first term. These are the people running the show. This is who we have to rely on to fix things and that is not good. This is why we must be vigilant even more so now, not to just let them install whatever fuck they think b/c THEY ARE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT GOT US HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

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Step 1: get a loan for a billion dollars
Step 2: ???
Step 3: ???!
Step 4: PROFIT

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pic rel the Miran (now trump's economic advisor) paper that will be part 4 of 4, as referred to in these posts , and >trying to indebt us to the Fed for another 100 years

they are going to ask the major holders of bonds to term out their short term holdings into 100 year (century bonds)

they want to be able to sell our gold without paying down debt

i was going to do another miran paper, which i already have summarized, but the 10 days of darkness created a sort of urgency

QQQ -1.32% after hours

I didn't realize it dipped that much in that small amount of time after hours before closing
holy fuck its going to be brutal on monday, futures tomorrow are going to go fucking crazy and hit 4-5%

This vid of Brian Berletic is good today.
He refers to many policy papers also.
The vid channel doesn't have a link, but I'm athinking you already know of them.
Thanks again.
youtube.com/watch?v=PTM4rY_jYP8

God isn't real, you just have schizoaffective disorder.

Is there any way to get this without paying for it?

It's going down fast, isn't it?

it's not collapse or conspiracy, it is we are being robbed as they debauch the national currency and our labor with their Federal Reserve Note.
then position themselves as the final claimant on any asset b/c they are the financial platform itself (aka safe harbor), as seen here , here and here for new anons:
US taxpayers paid the IRS $562 Billion in interest alone in fiscal year 2021 to borrow the Federal Reserve’s debt-based currency out of thin air in the form of bond debt
$562 billion
($562,000 million)
Pic related

How it is:

US government needs currency

US Treasury prints up some bonds

NY Federal Reserve creates Federal Reserve Notes out of thin air and its primary dealers then buy said bonds from US Government

US government now has new currency created out of thin air by Fed banks

Now, US taxpayers owe interest (and principal) on said US bonds, as well as paying a fee AND DIVIDENDS to the NYFed’s shareholders, the primary dealers (the big banks), this is the ‘Public Issues’ portion of the US Public Debt

How it should be:

Congress makes annual budget

Tax revenues are collected and any budget shortfall (deficit) is then new debt-free US Notes issued by the US Treasury itself, no bonds needed, no US Public Debt to issue our own currency

Are Americans ever going to realize this fraud?

when a generation sells the futures of their country and their offspring for unsustainable and lavish wealth and their offspring are too stupid to realize it

p.s. US taxpayers have now paid $1.13 TRILLION IN INTEREST ALONE for FY 2024 to borrow our own currency from the private Federal Reserve. The interest to borrow the Fed's private currency has fucking ~doubled in the last three years, as seen here . Let that sink in.

It was already degraded, I remember being on Krautchan back in the day posting about it

US taxpayers paid the IRS $562 Billion in interest alone in fiscal year 2021 to borrow the Federal Reserve’s debt-based currency out of thin air in the form of bond debt

$562 billion

($562,000 million)

Pic related

oops wrong usurious pic lol

This is beyond ridiculous because zognald is reducing the debt actively in massive ways and they never lowered its rating during the 2008 recession.

It's all linked to coddling china's balls. It's just mad we won't do that. Soon as any let up occurs it disappears. Markets can fuck off.

zognald is reducing the debt actively

this is true
pic rel said the treasury needed $56B less than projected

It's obvious that Trump is planning some kind of soft/technical default. Interest on the debt is getting out of control and there's zero appetite politically to tackle it. While only a fraction of the US debt is held by foreigners, defaulting on just that fraction would serve Trump's plans to cut the US off from the world permanently (tariffs can be reversed in a day, but economic pariah status via no international creditworthyness is much much harder to unwind).

Foreigners holding any US dollar denominated assets, especially treasuries, you were warned.

Qatar and Saudi Arabia in return for future favours unspecified. Lube up.

economic pariah status via no international creditworthyness is much much harder to unwind

I beg to differ and if we abolished the Fed, the US Note would likely skyrocket in fucking value for all citizens
it would be a global celebration equivalent to the house landing on the witch in Oz
it is holding onto the Federal Reserve Note that will be our downfall

Um.. No. The first time the US credit rating was downgraded was in 2011, under President Obama.

meow meow meow meow

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This graph being in nominal terms is pretty meaningless.

If the government is running a dollar deficit, but the share of debt to GDP is declining, it's not going into debt in a meaningful way even if it is technically borrowing.

Also the real star that matters is the percent of budget/GDP going to debt service. That's what's getting worrying, and it's Trump exploding long term interest rates that's making it a near term crisis.

THIS IS TRUMP'S AMERICA!

We've been building the $35 Trillion debt for the past 40 years. How is it all Trump's fault?

I agree that Trump should be cutting spending more; but Kamala and Biden were much worse and weren't even making attempts to cut spending.

Uhh, 2008 said hi

The bank financed the research and media blitz to inject you with MRNA bio-machines.

Nobody owes the bank 1 billion.

Trump owed Deutsche Bank 2.5 billion. That's why the idiots couldn't drop him, which turned out to be idiots' luck in the end.

And to clarify, rising US borrowing rates are purely "moron premium". US citizens and private and corporate borrowers will pay trillions more in interest than otherwise simply because the US put an erratic destructive attention whore in charge of the country. If by some miracle Obama was magiked info the presidency tomorrow long term interest rates would drop a percent of more and the country would be trillions richer in an instant.

The biggest theft ever perpetrated and all by Jews and their bought and paid for golems.
This is where the real power in the world lies. He who prints the money rules the nation.
Jew bankers extracting the last bit of wealth from the US before the planned collapse.
When it does , these kike bankers will be in the wind.

Rome could not print their gold and silver coins at FED smelting paper mills going brrrrrrrrrrrrr. They just diluted the content of precious metals slowly.

We just need to kill all the niggers politely invite the other shitskins to return from whence they came, and start over as an all white country, which is the exact reason this country became great in the first place.

If the government is running a deficit

pic rel
will be discussed in part 4 of 4 as discussed above

Cool

Does this result in inflation (desperate money printer goes brrr) or deflation (cascading defaults, nobody wants to borrow or lend)? Perhaps a combination of the two? Any high IQ takes here?

result in inflation

Deflation and inflation and other economic terms are FUCKING MEANINGLESS when one class of persons HAS FIRST ACCESS TO and IS BEING PAID FOR the issuance of any newly-created currency. Money does not mean the same thing or have the same scarcity (or have the same value) for all persons in the economy. As some do not earn their money (via real productivity), money is more liquid and less valuable for them, as they have exclusive first-access to the newly-issued currency and they also decide TO WHOM it is allocated via our current debt-based NYFed primary dealer financial system.
As long as we have a cartel of private banks getting paid to issue the currency, the FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE will lose EVEN MORE value for those of us that truly do earn it via productivity.

IT IS THOSE OF US WORKING that choose to prop up this class of parasitic, skillless invalids debauching our currencies worldwide via the Federal Reserve and its increasingly-worthless private currency, the Federal Reserve Note.

US Treasury-issued, debt-free fiat US Notes are the already-legal, interest-free sovereign currency solution to our debt problem and monetary policy parasite, the Federal Reserve Uniparty.

fucking global plague

They had two stated jobs, keep inflation low and keep people employed lol
We know it was just a giant Jew money grab from the start, but now that the (((US financial system))) has come to its logical end , they want financial and social collapse and they want ALL the wealth, EVERYTHING and us dead.

let me throw this in

First:
US Gold Notes and US Silver Notes are interest-free, metals-backed, NON-fiat notes that could be issued by the US Treasury TODAY.
US Notes are interest-free, fiat notes that could be issued by the US Treasury TODAY, they can also be metals-backed and were intended to be used as a tool for the citizens to trade.
Federal Reserve Notes are DEBT-BASED, fiat notes issued out of thin air by the privately-incorporated, now-BANKRUPT Federal Reserve 12 regional franchises and are currently also bankrupting the US Treasury.

All of the above are ALL DENOMINATED IN US DOLLARS (aka $US), which is a fucking UNIT.

And secondly, there are FOUR ways currency is created in the US:
1 Congressionally-approved Public Issues treasuries for deficit spending via the issuance of marketable US treasuries sold by the NYFed’s primary dealers aka Debt Held by the Public (now ~$35 T)
2 Intragovernmental Debt GAS securities (aka ‘Unfunded Liabilities’) that are created/issued for currency to run public agencies (over $152 T now) and ARE PURCHASED WITH YOUR PAYROLL TAXES
3 The commercial tier 2 depository banking sector, it makes small loans in which only the interest remains in the banking system after the loan is paid back (the principal and repayments are destroyed when the loan is repaid) —this can remain when the Fed is dissolved
4 QE, this is fucking counterfeiting by the now-insolvent NYFed's primary dealers since 2008 via IOER (now called IORB) and we pay all sorts of interest on this, increasing every day with raising rates

The unproductive, parasitic class spear-headed by the NYFed are debauching our national currency by USING MONEY TO REPLACE ACTUAL SUCCESS.

Jews first
They are the ones putting this in motion

deflation

Tell me a period and a country when prices dropped low against increased money supply. In the last 100 years. I'm listening. When and where this deflation boogyman happened, instead of being a jewish tool to tell you how good inflation and fake money are?

we will be just fine
we must all be the standard that we want to see at all times
these people only thrive in corruption

The NYFed’s MO is shifting financial obligations to the people:

NYFed bought Ukraine in 2014

NYFed/IMF cartel funds Privat bank in Ukraine beginning in 2014

NYFed associate/Oligarch Kolomoisky steals money from Privat bank

Privat Bank then fails and gets nationalized

now Ukrainian taxpayers are on the hook for broke bank

Ukraine forced to beg for new loans from the NYFed and its wallet, the IMF, who now use Ukrainian farmland for even more collateral for their outrageous international bank loans

The more strife and infighting, the easier it is for the NYFed/BIS/IMF cartel to loot the TARGET NATION.
Pic related:
’Large-scale, coordinated fraud' becomes 'capital problems' kek
Also, do note how they talk up their new surveillance-state CBDC and digital ID

Did the whole fucking world just forgot these are criminals? NO, IT'S MORE LIKELY THEIR CRIMINAL FRIENDS ARE NOW IN THE GOVERNMENT, WHICH IS WHY THEY ARE NO LONGER CONSIDERED THE FUCKING CAREER CRIMINALS THAT THEY FUCKING ARE.

kek i was wondering where you were

The problem for them is not deflation, but what deflation means. Deflation means that people sell their assets because they need cash. This is a sign that people can no longer pay their interest and bills out of their income.

The more strife and infighting, the easier it is for the NYFed/BIS/IMF cartel to loot the TARGET NATION.

long-standing pattern

I like your style and very much appreciate your posts.
But sometimes the high road will get you destroyed.
Theses “ people “ must be identified and killed , all of them , by what ever means necessary, their extended families too.
It must be this way.
It will be this way.

This is a sign that people can no longer pay their interest and bills out of their income.

or possibly they no longer want the item?
your statement is a leap

just calm down lel

I'm not him
you have not a clue what deflation means. It means people have more cash due to allegedly lower prices on everything, they will not sell shit but also will not borrow from banks because they do not need it as bad. Lower borrowing, lesser jewiness. There was no deflation ever, some peasants seeing a year prior watermellons fetched a good price and next year all planted watermellons and price was peanuts is not deflation.

I’m am calm
It will happen

Finally the have acknowledge the massive hole in the hull of the already sinking boat

Let me guess. None of you have ever read anything about economics. Just start with Ricardo and go from there. If you don't even understand the basics, there's no point arguing with you.

we will with substance not violence
violence is what got us in this mess
these people only are in power b/c they lie cheat and steal
that is why it all falling apart

the standard boomer rationalizations for mediocrity and greed:

fake it until you make it

no go, all show

it's not what you know, it's who you know

have finally sucked america dry
doesn't fucking matter if one is on top, if there's nothing to be on top of b/c it is ALL A FACADE
boomers are merely trading excessive gluttony for a decrease in living standards FOR ALL THAT FOLLOW

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we are all about to see just how much of buddies the boomers and the Fed really are

kek
Political science, sociology, psychology, law, and economics are all filed under ARTS in academia. They are NOT Sciences, but a collection of subjective analyses, as varied as there are opinions, devoid of practicality or reproducibility. Smoke and mirrors for those who want to hear themselves speak and to manipulate others.

Luckily for the hard sciences, failure is not rewarded and it is eventually weeded out via practical application and reproducibility. The hard sciences are unlike the above-mentioned Arts’ disciplines, in which failure not only thrives, but is rewarded and allowed to distort reality and hinder progress.