Apparently Roman soldiers were required to serve for 20-25 year enlistments

How did people back in those days have such a strong level of commitment to their careers while people today can’t commit to shit?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scourge

women were second class citizens and the reward for serving those 20 years was land and slaves

In 20 years we went from Postwar Americana to the Nixon administration. In 20 years we went from the 80s to GWoT. In 20 years we went from the dotcom bubble to the SECOND tech market collapse. In 20 years Rome barely changed.

Soldiering is fun shit. Why do you think all our video games are basically soldier simulator?

pagans just hit different

strong level of commitment

Their was noth else to do.

That’s a lot of sign tapping!

They actually got rewards for their service

Land and citizenship after serving their term
Money to spend while serving
Whores and booze while in the army
Plunder and rape when successful
Status in all forms - military service a practical requirement for any level of politics

In every way it was an immense reward

Modern militaries pay you fuck all in comparison.

I heard they changed emperors pretty quick thoughbeit

Only once the empire started to collapse and they began putting mystery meat "on the throne" so to speak.

Yea the mystery meat was german niggers, same reason why the EU is collapsing.

Better benefits and pay like everyone says but also the age of enlistment was much lower and schooling was over by like 10-12 years old. You were expected to have a trade or doing something worthwhile when you were 15-16 back then. Not sitting in your room eating tendies and touching your wang while doom scrolling tik toks.

Steady pay, food, housing, something to fight for, something live for, something to be apart of, or die... This is not hard to understand, but not nowadays being in the military is you will get a shifty pension after 20 years and okay benefits, and maybe forever PTSD as a bonus.

Everything else sucked and even then soldiering was considered low class shit
You didnt really get a choice anyway

Are those tactical dangly straps?

People didn't get paid to sit in office cubicles back then, fag.

he doesn’t bring his dangly bits to work

Not my shit = not my problem. If I was a roman citizen I would happily work/fight/etc for rome. Devoting my whole life to expanding the zionist when you aren't a jew just isn't as appealing.

Today it's the employer who can't make a 20-25 year commitment, you calcifying boomer.

they got actual rewards for service. hell they would get PRIME fresh puss all the time. anus, even, on the menu.

I'm supposed to commit to a job that won't even pay me enough to move out of my mom's basement? Go and get fucked.

Ancient ZOGbots

people today can’t commit to shit?

The pay and benefits for Legionaries was good. You see the same in the modern world where well paid jobs with a retirement plan see less turnover than shit ones.

A proud man was the Roman,
His speech a single one,
But his eyes were like an eagle's eyes
That is staring at the sun.
'Dig for me where I die,' he said
'If first or last I fall -
Dead on the fell at the first charge
Or dead by Wantage wall;'
'Lift not my head from bloody ground,
Bear not my body home,
for all the earth is Roman earth
and I shall die in Rome.'"
- G.K. Chesterton, Ballad of The White Horse.

They had the opportunity to permanently retard random people by hitting them with the hilt of the sword and that brought lasting satisfaction.

Except when you’d die from Tetanus from a cut with a rusty barbarians sword

it set them and their family up for generations. and it really wasnt as dangerous as it sounds, just physically taxing. they were expected to be able to march 20+ miles in a day, and that's carrying their kit

They were given a plot of land after their campaign, its alot more then what regular soldiers get now.

You get a free burger at Applebee's, once a year, vet.

Now instead you die of microplastics or xenoestrogen poisoning

It was either the prospect of constant employment or having next to none for some.
UK used to do 14 year contracts, the prospect of having to "serve" in a shithole like Jamaica caused it to be cut in half.
turns out it can kind of be easier to suck people in with shorter contracts that can fuck them in the arse rather than one long contract.

This.
I would not say OP is completely retarded since the goal is at least somewhat noble, but the reality is different, the time current is different.
For them, there was not that many options.

Because the officer corps were not merit based and there were no NCOs, and officers had first pick of looted booty.

What this means: When you -a lowly American with only a high school diploma- are Conscripted, you are put under the complete, total Authority of a college graduate with a degree in finance, who himself is underneath a nicer college grad who knows the XO. You are required to Submit to the college graduate, because he knows more about war than you do, and knows more about business and civic duty than you. You serve under Consul Miley or Consul Comey, and are totally submitted to them. If you disagree with even a word out of James Comey's mouth you are tied to a pole and whipped until you recant, apologize, and beg for mercy. If you don't beg, you are killed by your battalion's assigned bastardis in front of your coworkers.

That's how people learned to fight. Rome was a two tier society with MAGA at the bottom. You would be in the lower class with all the wealthy, educated liberals running things. And you would enjoy this because you'd get to rape anything you came across.

pic related - your commanding officer John Kerry, Nelson Rockefeller or perhaps Al Gore.

Julius dies, Marcus Aurelius makes a bid for the throne, Augustus ultimately wins out

Nero reigned only 14 years

Caligula reigned only 4

Stop talking about a history you clearly know nothing about

911 get

Remember: Kerry did more to serve his country than Trump ever has. If forced to serve as a commanding officer, Trump would have been found out as a fraud pretty quickly and either reprimanded by his superiors or have his family's honor reduced, as the Roman system had honor tiers and even if they were still Patricians they'd be ranked downward so they could not stand for national Senate seats.

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Because the wages were worth it, and not under left-wing baseline. Being a Roman soldier or a part of the authorities is a symbol of honor, bravery, and nationalism.

There's no ACAB Movement or BLM.

Also adventure while conquering is free real estate, why lose or drop that opportunity?

I got a free bachelors degree
I didn’t have to make a down payment on my mortgage
I get free healthcare, and a check every month for my troubles after 3 deployments
Plus free license plates and training and experience with firearms and explosives

But, also, the free Applebees burger

There's no ACAB Movement or BLM.

Christianity is this. Although, Christianity was also banned and veterans caught doing it had their veterans' privileges and honorable titles taken away.

zog wasn't a thing until christianity

seething meme nigger

Red Robins too, not bad actually.

Thr new retirement system is awful and basically gives people incentives to get out, I did get pensioned by the VA and free healthcare, Amazing schooling benefits, but can't afford shit since everything is so crazy expensive now. Can't even use my VA loan with two incomes in most states. I just bought an RV trailer, and have been fixing it up.

The absolute worst people stay long term in the military anyways, always end up in leadership positions because they never got injured from working.

No mass entertainment.

Modern militaries pay you fuck all in comparison.

This.

nigger what

Fun fact, this armor was not used by Rome during a majority of its wars of conquest. This armor, the lorica segmentata, was only used once Augustus became Emperor. Prior to that, they used lorica hamata, which looked more like this

This, you might be in your 30’s by the time you finish and could settle down to fuck your slaves and have your designated bride pump out a bunch of children.
Then if you were ambitious you could get into politics as most offices even in the provinces were gate kept by age.

They actually got rewards for their service

And they will riot if the senate or the emperor doesn't keep their promises,
and that makes me wonder, why actual soldiers don't complain so much about the treat of goverment with veterans.
I'd be really pissed off.

He’s large and in charge

magnum et crimen

They were real men. Hardcore mother fuckers who just did what they had to do, did their duty. Fighting, oftentimes to the death, was a way of life back then. No hesitation. No regrets. They didn't overthink things, kept their emotions in check, had their brothers' backs and gave their enemies absolute hell. It was do or die and if you weren't a man of action, you wouldn't live to see your 20th birthday.

Now, contrast that with today's "men." They're all pussies because they've gotten soft. Imagine sending a zoomer who plays Fortnite 16 hours a day back to the Roman era. He'd instantly become someone's bitch (and probably like it). It's never been more over for modern "men" lol.

Lol no, women have always had it better than men in the west, this meme of being second clas citizen belongs back on reddit

try reading a book moron

Because back then it was really easy for a legion to rebel and march on Rome. It was the equivalent of a carrier strike group going rogue for not getting paid enough.

How did people back in those days have such a strong level of commitment to their careers

Because they were directly fighting for their nation and their own personal advancement.

There isn't one Western army in existence that does this now. If you join the military as a zogbot, you're just a paid mercenary fighting for international zionism. And you'll earn basically nothing doing it. Then, when your body is fucked up and you have PTSD, they'll throw you to the curb and spit on you.

Roman legions were loyal for a reason. Their leaders deserved their loyalty. Western governments deserve no loyalty.

the social wars were, interesting.

Because when every soldier was Roman, they were all brothers. The modern western man might as well be a nation unto himself.

wars were infrequent. Most legionaries never fought. They just manned the border and maintained roads and bridges. Very cushy job until the crisis of the third century and the assfuckery that came after.

commitment

You had fewer examples of how others were living and were drilled with pride and industriousness, normalising things in a culture is literally all that matters to get the majority of the nigger cattle to go along with it

They were real men. Hardcore mother fuckers who just did what they had to do, did their duty. Fighting, oftentimes to the death, was a way of life back then. No hesitation. No regrets. They didn't overthink things, kept their emotions in check, had their brothers' backs and gave their enemies absolute hell. It was do or die and if you weren't a man of action, you wouldn't live to see your 20th birthday.

I don't disagree, but you got chub and it really shows in your overly long paragraph about real men.

every soldier was Roman

Or promised to be Roman. Caesar died to keep that promise, among other things.

all these niggers trying to twist Roman history to fit their meme politics

Niggers the books are right there, I guarantee they're more interesting than whatever you have in your schizoid head.

Modern eunuchs, jews lets say.

It was seasonal, You would serve a few months out of the year plus Wine and cheese ration on top of spoils, sure there would be times you wouldn't get paid but that's the senator's or Emperor's fault. Once the gold stipend is flowing; a side piece or extra family across the empire. If you wife cheated it was a crime, There's already cope about this but when you let it sink in this was eugenics to keep the Chad Soldier stock where it should be, putting that sandal on your ass

You turned something about Rome into Trump coping, with kerry as hero.? What cha doing..

This. If you exclude the top 1% of men, women have it so much better than men for all of history that it looks like a female-lead tyranny.

Women had it better

women were second class citizens

Not mutually exclusive.

This sounds like an insanely good deal. Especially if you come from a modest background and don't have many career opportunities.

Testosterone levels were MUCH higher in men back then.

Especially in the Canadian forces. After 78, the military went to shit.

Some of my fondest memories have been in Squad with other degenerates, have been playing since v14 alpha, not actually fighting but just doing mundane shit like building mortar pits, loading sand into hesco blocks, looking at enemies through my binoculars all while talking shit and listening to old school bangers
No one ever wants to be squad leader though, so I go SL as a sacrifice for my boys, I motivate my fellow degens and encourage them. I'd like to do this IRL but the real military would be pozzed and full of wahmen and bureaucracy