If the war in Ukraine had not broken out, then NATO would still be a formidable beast.
As it turns out, without the US, NATO is nothing more than a paper tiger.
The military power of European countries is so fragile that in just 3 years of war, the whole of Europe has been sucked dry by Ukraine.
It was just a proxy war, but it brought the entire NATO to the brink of disintegration.
If NATO can't even withstand a proxy war, what good is NATO anyway?
The Ukraine War Was a Major Strategic Mistake for NATO
then NATO would still be a formidable beast.
Not really. Unless they did something like reindustrialise their economies to actually make more real things again. But that takes a long time and the current leaders are only thinking in terms of election cycles and not multiple decades.
If NATO can't even withstand a proxy war
Any large institution is going to want to use its inertia, whatever power/influence/resources it has to preserve itself. We see that as white people left the Christian churches in increasing numbers that these institutions were more than happy to help with importing "refugees" of different races because that's what will keep the church going. It doesn't matter to them if these are third worlders that will make the town like the third world, they want to preserve their institution.
Similarly with NATO. Maybe it was useful during the days of the Soviet Union and after WWII. But it was fading in relevance. With people wondering where exactly is all this money going. Even Trump was questioning why it exists. And well then we conveniently get an event that is then used to justify its existence and more funding.
Implying NATO started it, fuck off with this stupidity.
No. It exposed how bad Nato has been at staying ahead of the curve.
It has in fact boosted Nato. Boosted spending and funding and rearmming and some solutions instead of trimming its budgets into bloated bureaucracy.
Yes it's a bit late. For example why didn't prepare first and foremost. Now it's playing some catch up in its development.
In any case the war has fully exposed any position and the drone and modern ballistic menace.
I was just making fun of delusional Europoors about this yesterday. Some in their minds desperately hope the American people are suddenly going to give a shit about NATO again and take care of Russia as we do with all of Europes problems. If we are out of the picture, a glaring portrait remains .. For the past 4-5 decades Europeans have acted like the very notion of firearm ownership to be some barbaric, archaic practice. Who are you going to mobilize after generations of that pussy foot mentality?
Well, thirty years have passed, during which there has been no really serious threat to the Western world that can be solved militarily. Soviet Union is no more, threat of terror requires the methods of the special services, not the military. That led to Western military going corrupt and weak.
Though the NATO itself may not be the best solution nowadays. If Europe and USA are really parting ways, the first one will need to make its own military force.
NATO and USA are the big winners in the war though. You are retarded.
Ukraine is the biggest loser followed by Russia followed by Europe.
Hoorah
See
The mass majority of men in your country and in Europe are emasculated cowards. Who are you kidding?
Again, see
One thing that has been made clear is that Russia has still maintained sort of "aggressive, masculine" mindset from the previous century. From your athletes to your media, guns, fighting, war, etc. Is still synonymous with your culture. Europe is 100% completely the opposite. I really cannot comprehend how these Europeans suddenly have the gall to suddenly act tough
Well, we're quite a warrior culture, that's right. Though I don't think West lacks of that. Most video games are based on military and are produced in the West.
Or you point is that USA stands out from the West on this?
there are many euros who know that just by voting they will not overthrow their government and replace it with a better one, so they blame Russia for being fucking retard suka blyats that by now should have already fucking reestablished the fucking soviet union.... but no: the fucking russians have to move with the speed of a nail, when the red army could already be in front of my house and i could drink vodka with them. Fuck Russians. Worst liberators ever.
Also I am glad NATO is a joke, but I wish that Russia could beat it faster. By now there should be Russian soldiers in Berlin.
The amount of 50 IQ zigger brainwashed delusion in this post. Russia started the war. Russia are the ones who refuse to end it. The war proved Russia is a weak bitch, no ones opinion on NATO has changed
Basically. Sure there are many Europeans that play counter-strike or whatever, but in virtually every single one of the main EU nations is a major schism between those that hold nationalism dearly, and those that detest the idea of borders. The mass majority of Europeans believe the concept of firearms and firearm ownership to be repulsive, etc.
The left wing in our country are not as popular as the ones in Europe. Just look at how many of them are disgusted by the view of Americans smiling, waving flags around Trump. They detest it! So where is this sudden ride of military brass and might going to suddenly come from? The immigrants they brought in??
Sad to disappoint you but Russia unlikely if going to conquer the entire world. Starting goals of SMO were about making Ukraine less shitty and throwing NATO away from the borders. You can easily see it if you look at Russian attitude against Minsk agreements.
There surely be cultural, political and economic influence but I doubt there would be tanks in Berlin. You'd better compare Russia of today with Russian Empire, not the USSR.
I had such high hopes in you. I saw you masculine and good looking army, while the western gay trash look weak and small.... but you betrayed me. I wish the USSR is back, but it looks like I am stuck with gay westerners.
It depends on the stage of decomposition actually. I don't think Europe can't be a power again, though it will take much time and social tension to do it.
We don't want to be USSR with all its commie shit no more. That was a wrong way.
Everyone in Russia is aware of the glaring problems that decapitated the USSR. The country is in a much much better position now than they were back with the iron curtain.
I think about it too. Not to sound harsh, but I believe the only way something could be rekindled is a sort of false flag attack that gets blamed on Russia... Ironically basically that fuckin Call Of Duty plot I think..
ok, but I mean... can you save us from western gay and trans shit? the EU is no joke a judeo-female lead soap opera demon ritual. I want out. I had hope that you would... change it. you would make them fear.
If the war in Ukraine had not broken out, then
then Russia would have a very convenient launchpad for invasion into heart of Europe and NATO would have to defend itself from much weaker position
Russia started the war when NATO was getting unpopular.
Now it's much more popular than it was and it was proven to be an actual deterrent to Russia. Also NATO isn't in Russia.
But China ordered Russia to invade after the Olympics anyway, you are the puppet master of Russia now China
For what it's worth, I was born and raised in Detroit starting from the late 80s. The fondest memories of my childhood was watching the Ex-Soviey hockey players that either defected or eventually made it over here. As I got older I looked into their lives and anecdotes and their stories of the USSR are pretty interesting. Notably, every single one of them were apart of the military, which made coming over here that much more of a headache.
Russia are the ones who refuse to end it
russia aren't the ones retreating and losing land every day. it's for zelensky to cut his losses before ukraine ceases to exist.
Who are you fooling? Trump was just re-elected on an anti-NATO platform
Implying NATO started it
NATO started the war in Ukraine you dumb fuck.
Trump was installed by Russia to destroy NATO.
Kikeflag
Russia invaded Ukraine, not NATO. It's not even allowed in the country.
I don't know what level of mental gymnastics you are on.
If by "warrior culture" you mean "a culture of throwing men to die into the frontlines meat grinder without batting an eye" then sure.
Trump was installed by Russia to destroy NATO.
Please elaborate, seeing as I'm a Trump voter. How did Russia influence my decision
What I refer to is the fact that Russian men are not shamed for being interested in fighting, wrestling, guns, rockets, ect.
Russia and Israel bailed Trump out of jail, and then spent billions shilling for him.
It's not even about votes anymore, if you have enough money you can just pay for a president to win now. I guess Soros is broke now top kek, but Kikmir Jewtin and Nathan Theftfromall(you) had plenty of cash to bank roll trump.
Ever wonder why Trump is hell bent on destroying the US now? At least in 2016 the Koch brothers paid for him to try and save America.
What I refer to is the fact that Russian men are not shamed for being interested in fighting, wrestling, guns, rockets, ect.
Nobody is shaming western men for doing this besides twitter bots and clickbait journalists.
we're quite a warrior culture
didn't Putin's approval experience a significant dip when he announced first and only mobilization wave?
Of course NATO started it. 10 days after Biden took office Kiev started shelling Donbass again.
Why would Russia invade Ukraine when Ukraine was shelling it's own country towards insurgents?
What about all the civilian Russia shelled in Ukraine?
Why does Ukraine spare Russian civilians but Russia spares no Ukraine civilians? Are they really murder goblins?
Instead of throwing a schizophrenic tantrum, how about you address what I said and explain how Russia or Israel enticed me to vote for Trump? Also from where I stand, gas is 2.70 a gallon and dropping, ive made $7k in unrealized gains, and left wing waste like I SAID is being gutted. Where am I losing?
I have people in my own family who are unable to comprehend my gun collection. They live in Ann Arbor and virtually everyone there is like a European pacifist pussy besides a few factions of farmers on the outskirts or athletes.
Why would Russia invade Ukraine when Ukraine was shelling it's own country towards insurgents?
How even old are you? Do you have any idea about the referendum votes when Obama was in office?
Russia bombing civilians
Probably bullshit just like their alleged chlorine bombs in Syria
They just do what their czar orders them to, including sacrificing themselves for Putin's sixth superyacht.
kill yourself you jew worshipping migatard
Why would Russia invade Ukraine when Ukraine was shelling it's own country towards insurgents?
Russia was defending Russian citizens from genocide and protecting their right of self determination to join Russia
What about all the civilian Russia shelled in Ukraine?
Ukraine uses human shields.
Why does Ukraine spare Russian civilians but Russia spares no Ukraine civilians? Are they really murder goblins?
Even Noam Chomsky, one of most reowned scholars on US foreign policy, points out that Russia is being more humane in their war than US was in Iraq. They're way less than they could be. Russia even goes out of its way to evacuate Ukrainian children.
You can make your gay little jokes, but I've played travel hockey with some Russians and they do not hate themselves and their countries like Europeans do
That's what I thought coward, shut the fuck up.
lso from where I stand, gas is 2.70 a gallon and dropping, ive made $7k in unrealized gains,
inflation is out of control, everything is double expensive at grocery store and now everything from china is twice as expensive. Now we have a LEGAL jeet invasion on top of that too.
I know Russians and kikes are making money from getting Trump elected.
You aren't losing but Americans are because most Americans aren't kikes like you.
Inflation has been out of control since the Democrat COVID lockdowns ended you idiot, the skyrocketed cost of groceries was LITERALLY the first debate question between Harris and Trump. I don't buy disposable Chinese shit from Amazon and I do not give a fuck about your Funko Pop collection. You lost in 2024 and still seem to have not got it through your dumb fuckin head
Russia was defending Russian citizens from genocide and protecting their right of self determination to join Russia
Why would Russia shell Ukraine civilians to protect Russians outside of Russia? Sounds like Russia was either using it's civilians as shields to provoke ukraine or they couldn't round up their own people. Sad!
Even Noam Chomsky,
You mean the guy with a PHD in poetry? Dugin is a real Russian scholar that Putin listens and he says Russia is invading Ukraine to genocide the Ukraine people and put an end to white civilization. Now Russia is kidnapping Ukraine children for their Satanic/anti-christ rape rituals to Moloch
I don't know how you redditors spout this insane shit while ignoring the blatant fact that Zalensky is a spandex wearing effeminate kike
how so? when they won California and the rest of the west coast to come back to?.. they won the whole god damn thing.. America doesn't have 50 states anymore, in case you haven't noticed.. The United States lost territory, in this war.. that's why American citizens are running from the west coast as fast they possibly can.. funny thing is, they don't ever see an American Soldier coming back the other way. never. can turn the flag any which way you want at this point.. cuz there's nobody leading or following.. it's theirs.. it's all theirs. thought you knew that
Why would Russia shell Ukraine civilians to protect Russians outside of Russia?
The same reason the US is shelling the Houthis, to protect their people overseas retard. Russia has the same right.
you mean the guy with a PHD in poetry?
He has a Phd from MIT. What is your degree and expertise?
I don't know, man. I think it worked out exactly how they planned. All that money went into creating weapons, which in turn made those who invested in weapons and those who created them wealthy. It also adds fuel to the claim that Russia wants to take all of Europe. I can guarantee for the next few decades this will be a talking point and lead to politicians making more and more weapons. The defense budget of Europe has increase and will continue to increase along with all NATO countries. Someone is making a profit off the lives of Ukrainian and Russian soldiers when we could have been diplomatic.
I think this is exactly what they wanted. If NATO breaks apart it will just turn into something else like all those terrorist groups the U.S. and NATO fund. In Syria there is a literal terrorist from Al Qaeda who killed Americans with his bare hands running the country there and Trump supports him. Trump even plans on opening trade as this terrorist kills thousands of Christians. Not a peep from the media of course. So why were we so butt hurt about Assad? It's because Syria was a ethnically diverse country and now it's just Muslim and everyone else is being killed. We can't have that next to the Jewish state of Israel, now can we?
None of this stuff even upsets me anymore. What upsets me is that people are so clueless. I'm sorry to say that Ukraine was always planned to be taken out. They have to many Nazis there and once Russia kills them all it will be Israel 2.0. Everything is ultimately about the Jews. I don't know why, but it is.
ctrl+R
NATO with russia
now your post makes sense
Soviet Union surely had its bright sides. We don't like it cause other sides were a disaster. Let me put it like this, we're in many ways are building our country from zero and catching up on missed opportunities.
Fun thing: I love to read the newspapers of the late Russian Empire and they're just as funny as our internet meme culture of today. Can't say the same about Soviet ones, they're dull and formal even in humor. For me it feels like a part of our time was just cut out.
Russians are the most self-hating people I have ever met. It sounds like you have never met any russians or Europeans in real life, and only refer to counterstrike.
he has a degree from MIT
a degree in bullshit from any prestigious college is still bullshit.
My degree is worth more and it's only an associates in CompSci. I do not listen to non-stem degree, especially if it's literature.
Same reason US is shelling Houthis
They didn't threaten Americans only Israel. Russia and Israel are the reason why the US is even in a proxy war with Iran. Iran oil threatens Russian oil dominance in Europe, Iran somehow makes Israel kvetch.
I don't know how you redditors spout this insane shit while ignoring the blatant fact that Zalensky is a spandex wearing effeminate kike
Putin is a pedophile kike who rapes boys. I don't know why you guys worship him. He made Jews the offfical religion of Russia and values Islam more than Christans.
In fact Putin has killed more christans than anyman alive today. He is by definition the anti-christ of our time. Zelesnki is a kike grifter but he is right to defend Ukraine, he is just grifting too much
Stop pretending you are here to have an honest discussion. , tranny faggot shill
tankytranny you are spewing the same kremlinshill garbage that has been spewed here since 2022.
You could at least try and spice it up.
How did NATO start the war?
They just did OK?
This is how you know the person you are talking to is retarded
Everyone of the ex-soviets that played for the red wings had their love of their "homeland" (not the USSR) held pretty dearly.. But as you've said the regiment of life especially in their positions made the day to day... For a lack of better term, "annoying." Finally when the 90s began and there was chaos internally, the Soviet players would also watch as other European players from Austria and Finland playing in the NHL, driving Ferraris and living in mansions, as they slept in barracks occasionally. One thing that many players from the West would remark is they had no idea many of the Soviets had actual senses of humor too, because they were used to them being followed with chaperones.
Spare me from that shit. That meatwave rhetoric has never been relevant, even for the USSR given all its inhumanity.
It did. I think it's mainly cause the state was saying a lot that we would fight only with the contract army and then this out of nowhere. I can't connect it with our culture.
It could also connect to our traumatic experience of Chechen wars where conscripts were used to plug the gaps. That's why there were no new waves of mobilization.
Its not bullshit. He's a reowned, respected scholar on the subject. I'd trust him, as would most people, over some literal nobody on Anon Babble.
They didn't threaten Americans
Yes they did.. Houthis were attacking US civilian ships
buddy you're carrying water for the CIA. nobody believes your BS
Youve never met an American college kid
You're fucking stupid go back to your NAFO safe space on reddit
NATO started the war by expanding eastward into areas that threaten the security of Russia.
this is wild considering finland was killing russians until stalin stopped them
now you cry about putin doing the same
Why would Russia invade Ukraine when Ukraine was shelling it's own country towards insurgents?
Russia peace keeping forces stopped the genocide of the russian speaking minority perpetrated by the Kiev illegitimate regime.
What about all the civilian Russia shelled in Ukraine?
There's no such a thing. Russia is trying its best to avoid civilians. They could shock and awe the whole place without giving a fuck like a savage burgers.
Why does Ukraine spare Russian civilians
Not true at all. Kiev is a terrorist state who kill civilians (Daria Douguina) with car bombs, plant explosive in cafe to kill bloggers, target civilians residential buildings with long range missiles.
but Russia spares no Ukraine civilians?
Are they really murder goblins?
Accusatory inversion, how do I know that you are jewish ?
>How did NATO start the war?
By not only simply ignoring, but outright mocking all calls for diplomatic means to end the dispute.
for years.
FA
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Its not bullshit. He's a reowned, respected scholar on the subjec
if a random schizoid with the easiest non-science degree to get is a "scholar" then fent addicted morons with pieces of paper should be running the state.
VPNigger defending Russian terror state shelling of Ukraine civilians
Not surprised honestly.
yea, yea you never met a fantastic goth lemming
It's amazing how you tiny minority of freaks on this board never get tired of accusing everyone and everything being a Russian spy
I don't know what point you're trying to make here, but I want you to know I'm glad my president embarrassed your ugly kike leader in front of the world
You are a faggot paid to be here. You scumbags have blood on your hands.
America is Europe's warehouse and this relationship must end. They have consistently not held their promises and they have consistently war mongered and fought against economic diplomacy to favour violent rebilous diplomatic strategies. Any American can see that a civil war is no space for a union and there must be changes and compromises. Who would say that you wiuldnt compromise understanding the historical relevance of this person style of warfare. America helped fund to build a barrier and buffer to pull for peace not total ruskie destruction. That's why leaving is the more beneficial factor. Everyone is in America. Really no American should advocate for war. - my Dresden.
Stop with this "you're paid to be here" shit. It's obvious it's just a group of young kids that are fully obsessed with their internet larp. I always laugh when they talk about how they "Document and archive Russian losses" by following random twitter pages
Chomsky is more credible than you because he's an expert in foreign policy, while you are nothing more than an STEMcel incel with pencil pusher brain. You don't have the intelligence to understand the complexiites and nuances of politics or political policy.
I'm glad you're so naive and foolish in your delusions about ruskys. It just means they'll be able to screw you over even more easily.
As a resident of a country that not so long ago Russia, represented by the CSTO corps, saved the country from a coup d'etat, I'll tell you this...
Russia owes us nothing.
Look at Syria, Russia pulled them out of their ISIS black noose.
Russia gone. Syria has failed to hold on as a state. Now it is ruled by American proxies and shtf in the Middle Ages.
We need to do everything ourselves.
NATO had trained Ukraine for this very moment to use them as the million man human wall. Russia had attempted to break their mobilization efforts but failed to neutralize leadership in the first few days. Now they are stuck in a bloody war of attrition unable to break morale to cause the general rout. Low yield tactical nukes should have been deployed early. As evident by Pakistan/India when the option is being discussed diplomacy will prevail especially when one doesn't have nukes at all.
Chomsky is more credible than you because he's an expert in foreign policy
Anyone is more credible than Chomsky because a PHD in literature is as easy to get as showing up for class.
You ever seen someone with a Phd in literature run governments like in China or here in the US? They don't because it's a joke degree. Really ironic how people make fun of participation award degrees but suddenly ignore it when Chomsky gets one.
His entire foreign policy is "get paid to shill for Russia" He is a grifter and a kike and only brainlets and other kikes and grifters shill him.
He has a joke degree and his Russian kike shill grift is exposed.
No one gives a shit about Ukraine 3 years from now.
The only people that give a shit about you are weirdo LGBT purple haired rainbow flag waving fags and freaks. You're too stupid and unselfaware to be embarrassed, apparently.
Syria fell because Ukraine sent them 250 drones and operators and NATO took out thier air defenses and bombed the shit out of them.
Falling for russian propaganda
LMAO
NATO is weak because they can maul Russian forces for hundreds of thousands of casualties without even getting directly involved themselves
I wonder what strength means to you
Who is this according to?
If it was easy, why haven't you gone to MIT and gotten one?
Its because you went to a shitty community college. And he doesn't get paid to shill "Russia", but you might get paid to shill CIA propaganda with the shit you saying bud
ok, but I mean... can you save us from western gay and trans shit?
No. We can barely save ourselves, if even that. We can't provide a solution for you. The EU citizens are in need of creating their own likbez on the geopolitical situation of the world.
Man, we are not the same, I guess we can only agree on our opinion about women, given your flag. Your country had a totally different history with Russia and you are much more like the Baltics, where Russia fucked shit up. For the most part historically my country has had ok relationships with the ruskies and the ruskies probably fucked shit up the least in my country then they did in many others.
Also your country is not in the EU, hell the globalist kikes probably do not even know you exist. For the most part I am not a fan of the EU, and would rather by in the middle of Asia away from it. You do not need Russia also : you are a big country, with somewhat rich natural resources... hell, the ruskies kinda stole your natural resources and exploited you.
For me it is quite easy to see why you are not historically and practically a fan of Russia. Although you probably should maintain some level of friendship diplomatically and in day to day conversations with them. Do not become a dog like Poland.
It just means your delusions are clouding your view of reality. Maybe it's easier for you to live that way, but why try to convince others of it?
the drone menace
I hope NATO didn't fall into this FUD and won't replace heavy armor with cheap toys for kids. We're seeing a lot of videos, mostly made for propaganda purposes, with 1 guy being killed by 1 drone, and there is a high chance it's been staged with PoWs or deserters.
Ukraine has bazillion drones but couldn't do anything meaningful to turn the tables in 3 years.
Nato is a suicide pact,
an extra-national expeditionary force the US masquerades as on European soil for 'taste' and 'optics' purposes, nothing more
What appears to be a coalition of dozens of nations
is in reality a dysfunctional web of quasi-territories
which all have a non-functional economic structures and collapsing governments
propping up the entire rotten house of cards.
NATO is a network of expendable goylem states to be used up and disposed by USA.
Americans will never fight for you, because it's YOUR job to fight for them.
NATO isn't there to guarantee your security, it's there to secure the US' dominance over Europe.
Europe CAN.DO.NOTHING. about this.
london took "peace" off the table, all defenseless Euro's can do is cower in the corner untill the beating of the century comes for them
all day, every day another 'red line'
nato escalates, escalates & escalates
Russia is being very careful to not beat the homosexual-handicapped-wheelchair bound nato vassals
with the atomic stick they rightly deserve
The US has military 'allies', it's an empire, America disables is allies to the greatest extent it can, then (like Rome) forms them into auxiliaries
so we are doomed. trans rights for everyone is the future i guess, thanks to the EU.
the only thing Russia had going for it was its soviet stockpiles and those are entirely depleted.
you people are absolutely delusional if you think Russia has a better industrial manufacturing capacity than europe.
Russia cannot even beat Ukraine and you want to talk about fighting all of NATO? it's laughable. literal russian shilling amplified by hyperpartisan retards and bitter third worlders. a million russians are dead and all that has happened in europe is gas bills were a little higher last winter. that's what all the russian blood in the world amounts to - a slight inconvenience for wealthy countries.
Please elaborate then, what is delusional about this?
nato so isnt involved
they demilitarized themselves for 2 generations
faggot Anon Babble nigger
Your delusions have made you guys believe you aren't just Russians with an accent
Whoops forgot pic
It's the opposite Ling Ling.
If Putin had just said: JK it was a drill, Biden is gay and retarded and fucked off, then NATO would have fractured for real.
Putin can't into geopolitics after his COVID isolation and has grand delusions while shitting himself.
The only real travesty is that we're not sending more shit to Ukraine. Would have prepared the industry for the chimpout this year against the baltics.
you people are absolutely delusional if you think Russia has a better industrial manufacturing capacity than europe.
you absolute faggot fucking nigger Anon Babbleike
nato has literally NO soldiers
NONE
it has no armanent, AT ALL
nato is literally NOTHING but yapping female politicians and 4th world tier , 50k man militaries of women and minorities
nato would be physically dismantled by Russia in a single weekend of actual combat
NATO is more prepared for war now than it has been in decades, what the fuck are you even talking about?
NATO IS ON THE BRINK OF DISINTEGRATION
Yeah ok, keep hammering that narrative. Total Asiatic victory is imminent surely.
Before the Ukrainian events, neither of us nor you had any question about political relations with Russia. At least not in such a high degree.
Now everything has changed.
I do not know about you, but we have serious government work underway to introduce anti-Russian elements. Similar work is being done at the social level. And at the third level, work is underway similar to the work carried out in Ukraine as part of the resource deal.
We're fucked. It's a matter of time and planning.
Our government is very weak.
"ben wallace" (uk)
is the guy who created nafo
the guy that wrote the Anon Babbleike script
the guy who wrote the /ugh/ narrative
the guy behind the uk-led strategy in ukraine
quite frankly hes responsible for the entire western response to Russia
hes also the guy who coined the phrases:
"day xxx of Putins 48hr brunch in keev" .. "the 2nd best army in ukraine"..."its only nato's garage-sale hand-me-down gear!.. only 5% of the US defense budget to kill Russians!... "were just getting rid of our oldstuff so the MIC can replace it will all new high-tech stuff across the board!".."Russias GDP is uganda! nato wins!"
ben wallace is solely responsible for all "messaging" on the side of nato
for an explicable invasion attempt of Russia,to "balkanize it", "execute Putin at the hague"
^(this is actually one of ukraines non negotiable "terms" to any deal if you see any news from poland east)
and finally
to loot Russias vast resources for $trillions of dollars of 'reparations', funneled into the hands of european kikes
ben wallace did wild, inexplicable damage to 80 years worth of western hegemony, in like 18months
nafo itself is the most damaging propaganda event in the history of the planet
he absolutely kiked it up to the most insane, ludicrous degree imaginable, utterly buck-broke nato through message-disorder alone
this man singularly did more damage to (((the rules based international liberal order))) than anyone on planet earth
NATO is full of weak gay left wingers who the fuck are you kidding?! Literally NOBODY is scared of a single NATO cou try besides us
nato would be physically dismantled by Russia in a single weekend of actual combat
Yes, surely.
Who are you going to mobilize after generations of that pussy foot mentality?
lmao you are mobilizing to defend what exactly?
nationstates dont exist anymore as all borders are open for all who want to cross.
The invasion has already happened go to any european country and majority of the youth will be foreign.
i said capacity. russia is in a war economy, of course they're producing a lot of weapons. but this is their maximum. europe is literally 10 times larger than russia, much wealthier, and has most of the world's advanced manufacturing industries. they are still running civilian economies though.
nato has literally NO soldiers
as opposed to russian "conscripted rural peasants with 2 weeks of 'training'" soldiers? who can't even break through the Ukrainian lines?
you are just delusional.
Why are the delusional nafo troon shills out in full force today?
You fail to mention that NATO will ultimately fail in its goal to bring Ukraine into NATO and the EU.
Yeah most of us were saying it would be a fatal mistake to start the war with Russia but the Globohomos did it anyway.
Who will stop them? You faggots? That have had generations of men raised on limp dick left wing fairy politics? Kinda my point yeah
What's truly irrational is making up more mythical enemies, all while looking for compassion in those who are genuinely hostile. It only leads to harm - and helps just one party.
Pretty much all of the pro-uktaine shit has been proven to be a massive LARP so many of them are coping pretty hard
Speaking of paper tigers
I mean its the same shit here, whites are a minority if you look at the under 25 population.
NATO stopped being a formidable force when the major nations of NATO started become brown shitholes. France and the UK are both nonwhite majority in the younger generations. Its over for these fags.
Who is going to man all of these new toys Nigel? Abdul or Ngubu?
The main problem is demographic decline. There was that birth rate chart of Europe posted yesterday, and we need to remember that nations like France have 1.3% birth rate INCLUDING the browns/blacks. Can you imagine what the actual native birth rate is?
Least obvious Russian shill tandem
NATO is more prepared for war now than it has been in decades, what the fuck are you even talking about?
you faggots are litterally in full scale collapse hysterically shuffling from one meaningless meeting and summit to the other
nato is so fucking faggot nigger irrelevant
not a single one of you are even invited to sit outside the room at peace talks, let alone participate
youre that fucking meaningless
irrelevant thumb stamp country has an opinion
lol
Mythical enemies
Literally the only people telling me to support you are men in dresses. What is so hard to comprehend here, idiot?
Not really, Trump winning 2024 was pretty glaring
You can't answer the question, can you?
yea, our government is gay too, but its normal for us because we are in the EU. Although its funny because for the most part the average citizen does not agree with them so they have to play a drama game of being "anti-Russia, but also somewhat pro, but also anti"... its boring.
It is nobody problem. The neocons that run NATO? Yeah their legacy is ruined but who cares. Americans, Russians, Euros nobody should care other then the kikes that got humiliated by putin.
I really want to know your mental gymnastics over what will happen with the millions of foreigners you have take and the millions of foreigners who were born with your passports?
Not really, Trump winning 2024 was pretty glaring
The latinos also voted for him in large numbers.
America is a multi racial mess that will never get sorted unless balkanization occurs which it wont as everything is centralized in a way to not let that happen.
NAFO is a useless coalition of nations that rely on everyone else to fix their problem.
In essence, it's a scam and excuse to raise taxes to pay the membership fee and send your pawns to die for a nation they don't care about.
The dictators don't need to die though, they just collect premium salaries.
You can't answer the question, can you?
About who's gonna stop the Russian military from taking over Europe?
The European militaries is my answer.
This may or may not be true, but it is monumentally different than 50% of Europeans or more being anti-nationalist
they'd have to make it to europe first before europe had to stop them lol. 2 more years, right?
but muh jewish media told me NATO dindu
Go back newnigger
That was the ploy.
The goal was always the money.
you faggots are litterally in full scale collapse
mmhmm
The European militaries is my answer.
Yes and then I laughed at you while bringing up the point that every single European nation has had at least two generations of men raised being far left, cowardly, and gay. Sweden especially! Even in ice hockey here you are all labeled soft and weak! Who are you kidding?!?!?!?
They have only wanted to take Donbas and that's it.
Imagine giving all your weapons to a bunch of unprepared civilians and expecting them to wield it effectively. It's simple, Ukraine is not a demonstration of true NATO power, Ukraine is severely lacking the highly sophisticated logistics, communications, and intelligence that NATO possesses. Take a look at Desert Storm, which was about 30 years ago, do you expect a country like Ukraine to even coordinate an operation like that?
Using Ukraine as a gauge of NATO power, and effectively U.S. power, will be a mistake you chinks will make in Taiwan.
Look at the Euro birth rates and tell me that you are looking at countries with actual staying power? The fucking UK is 64% percent white.
Yes and let's see how well your socialist fag filled societies function when we aren't paying your military bills
military spending
sudden jump in 2020
Yea because pesky goys won't vaccinate themselves.
Don't you fags have Muslims throwing hand grenades at each other in your capitol?
They have only wanted to take Donbas and that's it.
then why would europe need to stop them from invading europe if they don't want to invade europe?
are we supposed to be scared of the BIG RVSSIAN BVLL or not?
i'd be surprised if your script has an answer for this so i don't mind if you go ask your team leader, Ivan
you think europe can't outspend russia? a country that is smaller than most major EU economies alone?
Every word you said is a lie, nafo troon, why even bother? The combined national debt of NATO is around 60 trillion dollars and the EU just announced they are taking on more massive debt.
Russia is 200 billion in debt....
will be a mistake you chinks will make
was waiting for the cope/seethe rent free chyyynnaaa aspect of this argument lol while reading this
You guys are the ones inventing that retarded scenario. Even speaking hypothetically, it's an absolute joke that you prissy Euro faggots even have a notion that your tough and should be taken seriously. All of you think basic gun ownership is icky ffs
Desert storm was back when the country was 70%+ white. Now its like 48% white. We are a third world country now, son.
banks don't give big loans to poor people lol.
You guys are the ones inventing that retarded scenario
so are we supposed to be scared of the BIG RVSSIAN BVLL or not?
you're saying european defence spending isn't adequate to meet a threat that doesn't exist. okay. so who cares?
What will spending accomplish when your country is full of cowardly LGBT friendly pussies that have been raised to be scared of guns?
Yes, surely.
yes, exactly you faggot nigger
you have literally no militaries to speak of
no equipment
no staff
NOTHING
you have no fucking industry, and every one of your fighter jets use US engines that would be shut OFF the moment you acted like the pussies you are
europe has fucking nothing you jackass clown
no industry period
Russia would stomp you out like bugs
You chose this when your cunt of a country decided to fight with the Ottomans against the Russians in 1853.
If you had placed your own race above your silly crumbling "empire", you have helped the Russians wipe out islam from the Europe, and Asia.
Now shut the fuck up and go suck a muslim dick.
Same goes for the French and the Germans.
You are all a bunch of faggots subservient to islam.
all animals will fight to the death when cornered, and being russian is a fate worse than death as any ex-soviet country will tell you.
The usa and UK prepared for at least 3 years for Desert Storm.
Yeah I'll take the Russian over whatever fuckin string bean anti gun faggot Europe has to offer
europe has fucking nothing you jackass clown
no industry period
europe has the third largest advanced manufacturing industry in the world, and russia isn't even on the chart.
lol lmao
Didn't you guys have concentration camps for unvaxxed people?
Desert Storm was exactly same: 90% US and 10% of Eurofaggots combined.
spending money doesnt mean jack shit you faggot
what are you going to do ?
beat Russia by "spending more money than them"? is that what you think?
Fuckin Aussie men submit to retarded lady cops telling them to stay in doors they're all fucking pussies
Yes and then I laughed at you while bringing up the point that every single European nation has had at least two generations of men raised being far left, cowardly, and gay. Sweden especially! Even in ice hockey here you are all labeled soft and weak! Who are you kidding?!?!?!?
That's a lot of seething.
If that were the case then what are you waiting for? If no one will stop you from conquering Sweden or Europe then go for it.
this is not a game brother
this is serious shit
And our countries will be fucked up too if they need to.
We had recruited shit loads of people for a land war, it's not our fault the usa cucked out before anything really started.
Most of the national debt countries oww to themselves you retarded commie faggot. Funny how you troons cant into finance.
when you have to pay 2 trillion dollars in intrest per year you are winning!
oh go have a ripstart in SEA ya fuckin cunt
Yeah, and?
LMAO
"european manufactring"
"european industrial juggernaut"
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You're seething that we are notoriously labeled weak
Hahahahah uh okay? My main point is my country is not fighting your battles anymore, and you tried to act all tough. Pipe down bitch.
Haha so funny when ziggers project their failings on the world. You've been thoroughly humiliated ten times over, Ivan.
okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk what blew up in ukraine today?
nafo faggot niggers have gone full psychosis delusional
that bet hasn't worked out so well for you in ukraine
it was a practice run for exterminating russians
spending money doesnt mean jack shit you faggot
things poor people say lol
Most of the national debt countries oww to themselves
so then why did you bring it up if it doesn't matter?
ukraine alone produces more and higher tech drones than russia lol. but at least russia can produce literal ww1 tier technology. good job.
so are we supposed to be scared of the BIG RVSSIAN BVLL or not?
Yes if you want to support Ukraine. They were the ones to invent this scaremongering to sell the idea that if you, a European, don't help Ukraine right here and now, then you will be next.
EU states readily jumped on the bandwagon, which should raise questions in you instead of acting like a golem playing gotcha on a Japanese AI porn generating forum.
nothing we can really do. for the most part i just meme about ruskeis saving us, and i am generally behaving ok with the ruskies. on a personal level you can just not be Polish, or move to a better country.. if it even exists.
You can't get troops over here for anything serious you mean.
You've been thoroughly humiliated ten times over,
but enough about the ukraine
faggot nigger state gets enough shame each day dontcha think?
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ivan
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Whats funny is ukraine is so corrupt they caught thier artillery shell contractor shipping 100,000 duds to the frontlines.
They were the ones to invent this scaremongering
yes, their strategy of allowing themselves to be invaded and murdered was a masterstroke. really sold me on the idea. what fools you russians were for falling for their expertly laid trap, couldn't you see that they wanted you to invade them?
My main point is my country is not fighting your battles anymore
When did you ever, Ivan?
Or if I were to run with your shill narrative, then the US has never fought a battle on behalf of Sweden. The Nordic countries would be perfectly able to fend of a Russian invasion. The only country that's vulnarable is Finland.
Russia is literally getting what they wanted. Trump literally embarrassed Zalensky a few weeks ago and made it clear we are not going to extend this nonsense.
Nobody is scared of European men, at all.
Of course they did. NATO and western libs egged Ukraine on about joining NATO despite warnings from Russia that it would not tolerate any more encirclement. American libs wanted war cuz muh 2016 lekshun innerfeerunce.
inb4 Russian birth rate is also low
They don't have the same cultural problems the west does.
Nato is useless. Its only there to prevent infighting. Causes more harm than good. Fuck nato, all my homies hate nato.
Easy to recruit people by offering them to fight sandniggers who barely had 100 manpads with 1k US planes. Try recruiting them to fight when they live 4h average after being dropped at the frontline.
Russia is literally getting what they wanted
a million dead russians? two embarrassing retreats? a three year quagmire that still doesn't seem close to ending? an unsustainable war economy?
Nobody is scared of European men, at all.
they seem to preoccupy your thoughts.
I haven't really kept up with the Ukraine war lately. Is something going really badly for Russia, or why are their shills so angry and demented?
It's fuckin obvious. I was laughing my ass off when Trump won and told Europe to fuck right off. Then all of you NAFO cult faggots where CRYING about "abandoning your allies" ahahahahahhhaha
I think Russia should lose another flagship to a nation with no navy, drop another 100 vdv into the black sea and face another bloody coup to show how hard they're beating NATO
They don't have the same cultural problems the west does.
yeah, russia has very low immigrant population because nobody wants to live there lol.
a million dead russians? two embarrassing retreats? a three year quagmire that still doesn't seem close to ending? an unsustainable war economy?
Who is this according to? Some blog that tracks pro-uktaine Twitter accounts and subreddits?
its time to pray, ahmed
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see the blue bars?
thats the size of these CLOWN FAGGOT NIGGER nato militaries
*THIS*
is (((nato)))
*THIS*
is what the pathetic faggot nigger Anon Babble posters think is going to "dominate Russia ez"
its so absolutely and unbelievably embarrassing its almost unreal these shit nigger nations talk the way they do
nato is one, never ending "woman moment" and it goes like this:
nato logic:
"nato could defeat Russia on the battlefield in an instant but it chooses not to but it could in 2 hours if it wanted to but for now it just doesnt want to (but it could)"
next time a Anon Babble cum sucker, or some nafo faggot open their mouth,
just remember, its coming out of a nation who's entire military is what the afu got killed in 2 months to fail to cross a field in robotyne backed by the totality of nato 'tactics' and equipment
peace talks are happening so the shills are out in force trying to exert pressure on the americans via their maga base.
personally i think trump is just bored of the ukraine conflict at this point and is going to hand it over to the hawks in his party. you can already start to see this with weapons sales resuming. zelensky will sign some meaningless deals, trump will declare victory, and the US will go back to selling weapons financed by EU money.
it was a practice run for exterminating russians
Was closing down the Aussie car industry and the importation of millions of browns into ANZAC also part of the plan too?
Preventing that infighting is what makes the west that much greater than Russia and the main reason you're not bring drafted to charge a machine gun neat with a churka's bayonet in your back
Why dont you just say 6 million
You know you want to
Faggot
We didn't even know what muslims were back then. If they wanted to recruit an army they should have done it before it was obvious they were recruiting for a war. Too late now.
Who is this according to
who cares? you'll ignore it anyway.
the world trembles in fear of russia's army consisting of rural peasant conscripts with two weeks of training who have been ordered to walk into machinegun fire.
ukraine is getting plastered by missiles right now
so the shills are seething
too much time on Anon Babble faggot nigger?
Europe is perceived by the entire world as a continent you can get in and rape and steal do whatever you want and nobody would even try to stop you. The only force that can stop you is the police but they'll release you a few hours after anyway.
So I was right, it's that silly blog that you fags spam everywhere. You're fuckin pathetic
no actual american would know anything about the australian car industry, i can tell you've opened up to a new page on your shill script ivan.
but seeing as you ask, yes. rich countries shut down inefficient industries rather than funnelling government subsidies in them to enrich the oligarch owners. that's why my income is several orders of magnitude more than yours.
On a personal level, everything is fine for me and for many people here in Almaty.
Purely for reference, there is the capital, satana... pardon Astana and Almaty is the second city in the country. Even first by many other things.
but the main propaganda that is carried out at the level of marginal nationalists,some regions purely kazakh speaking, who are stupidly more numerous because normal people are slowly leaving the country.
So yes, just memeing around and nervously joking.
europe and nato are so unimaginably pathetic and weak Russian peasants on 2 weeks training could march across continental europe to basically zero resistance
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Fuckin this. Euros get arrested for complaining about nigger gang rape in their own country but suddenly are badasses than can take on Russia?
Europe is perceived by the entire world as a continent you can get in and rape and steal do whatever you want
who cares? the non-white world's thoughts and feelings are irrelevant.
go tell that to the russian mothers asking where their missing sons are. oh wait you can't because putin arrested them. lol lmao etc.
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I can see that, yes. They wanted it, because their bet was that le west will le save them Yugoslavia style and finally close the Russia question for them.
The 2021 Ukrainian military planning was about restoring control over Crimea through bringing in as many other countries into the conflict as they can, which is what caused the entire 2021 standoff, if you even remember that.
Sweden only joined NATO a few years ago. Our entire military doctrine is built around defending against a Russian (previously Soviet) invasion WITHOUT any help from the US.
Ivan seriously, you have to adjust the script depending on the country you're trying to target with propaganda. Using the same one against all European countries just doesn't work.
Why would they care? Your only evidence for mass losses is a fuckin blog holy fuck
but seeing as you ask, yes. rich countries shut down inefficient industries
LMAO PEAK NAFO GENIUS
"shutting down heavy industry is a good thing if the jews profit margins are to his liking!"
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you deserve to be the pathetic vassals you are , to your very core
none of that happened you faggot nigger
the war is being shut down by Trump
you nafo niggers and this delusion that Trump is going to throw his hands up in the air and do some kind of EPIC 180!!!!! and send US boots to the ground in ukraine is so detached from reality it could only come from the diseased mind of some nafo troon
Syria fell because the army got bought out.
Everyone was bullshiting Assad in the final moments, the plan was to give him over to Israeli forces.
Ehen your own Army generals are against you, it's way too late.
russia's invasion of ukraine proves that ukraine was always right all along about russian aggression and every action ukraine took is retroactively justified as necessary - though sadly inadequate - preemptive self defence.
therefore, i fully support every action that ukraine takes against russia because it leads to dead russians. if i had a button on my desk that would kill every single russian, i would press it twice to make sure they were dead.
I didn't ask, your country is unironically a gay stereotype. Nordic men are known as weak pussies, again I ask, who are you kidding?
toys for kids stupid
muh heavy armor
You really haven't been paying attention, have you? Lemme help. One kid with a drone swarm controller can wipe out any heavy armor, kill the operators, find and kill the commanders. Sometimes from the other side of the world. Wake the fuck up. UAVs are the future.
if i had a button on my desk that
you don't and your seethe is all you have instead
The usa can't even get boots on the ground in Europe if they wanted to.
Why would they care?
you should ask them. oh wait you can't because putin arrested them. why would putin arrest mothers for asking where their missing sons are?
hmm, where have we seen this before? the soviet invasion of afghanistan? the russian invasion of chechnya? literally every war russia has ever fought?
lol lmao etc.
It has unassailably been proven the Donbas region voted to join Russia. You're NAFO cultist scripts are fuckin useless
lmao, your entire airforce uses license built US engines the US would NEVER allow you to use if you thought you were going to start shit with Russia
the uks nukes are owned by the US
and the US owns every single EU airforce jet down to its last part
you faggots would get the *killswitch engaged* immediately
the war is being shut down by Trump
russia just withdrew from pokrovsk lol.
Our bases are all over your countries already what the fuck are you talking about?
According to a blog
It was a good test for nato, now they know and now they got to beef up for the real conflict with china & russia vs the world.
The USA can't even get boots on the ground in europe if they wanted to.
LMAO, wanna bet?
you don't
true, instead i voted at the last election for the party that is going to send more money and guns to ukraine. i hope it kills many russians. and even if ukraine falls, and russia "wins" the war, i will be safe on my island but those russians that my tax dollars killed will still be dead.
cope, seethe, etc.
Nukes are obsolete, if they ever existed at all.
Trump and Putin have a meeting tomorrow dumbfuck
Russia withdrew from the theatre its waffle-stomping ukrainian hogshitters
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1991 borders, when?
Crimean beach party when?
I have a great video for you. This is what starchy European males will look like fighting Russia.
no actual american would know anything about the australian car industry,
Pic. I know about your barras and utes Bruce.
but seeing as you ask, yes. rich countries shut down inefficient industries rather than funnelling government subsidies in them to enrich the oligarch owners. that's why my income is several orders of magnitude more than yours.
Do they also let in millions of brown people too?
It has unassailably been proven the Donbas region voted to join Russia
and russian rule has worked out well for them? donbas is basically depopulated by the meatwaves lol.
They're saying that a peace negotiation is needed but Europe doesn't want the war to end..
That's why a lot of shills are here to try and silence peaces and promote war
fact
The Russian military telegram channels at that time exploded with news about internal betrayal, incompetence, and the Syrian army, which literally fled.
First hand news.
Interestingly, those generals were later executed.
and then came the infamous purge.
what meeting number is this? two? three?
russian victory in two more weeks, comrade ivan.
Maybe this is the 24hrs Trump was going to end the war in.
"i sent my money and vote to kill Russias prison population!!!"
nafo nigger cheer leading is so fucking dumb its surreal
America doesn't care about Ukraine and not a single one of you NAFO faggots can do anything otherwise. Ukraine has nothing left. You all lost. Ahahahaha how many years have you wasted larping on Twitter?
the mortar will still explode tho.
I know about your barras and utes Bruce.
fair cop
Do they also let in millions of brown people too?
you tell me, delgado.
The stock pile of cold war munitions was reaching end of life. They probably thought it was better to use them and and secure reconstruction and rearmament contracts than dispose of them with zero ROI and at a deficit. Same with Russia except they get to flex their new missile tech and EW capacity. NATO overestimated their own effectiveness for sure but they've also been shown to been good at underhanded tactics and propaganda.
and i'll do it again.
Nobody cares about Ukraine, they just like to keep things going to make the usa look like LARPing faggots.
that faggot nigger Anon Babble speak coming out of ursula
ukraine will NEVER have (((security guarantees)))
the only guarantees of security ukraine will ever receive are simply lowering its tone when it speaks to Russia,
and stopping the nigger pitbull behavior its perpetrating on behalf of london
it will ONLY be the unilateral and unconditional surrender of the ukraine
period
the end
there isnt going to be some nato patrolled "demilitarized zone" on the Russian border
it's called "losing a war to Russia", a common way for european empires to end
Its funny how you lazy faggot propagandists just take what ukraine is doing and say
no its Russia doing that!
America doesn't care about Ukraine
lol
news.gallup.com
You faggots really think you can use 35 year old artillery shells?
You think everyone is a stupid as you?
and i'll do it again.
FUCK YES
just think, for every one Russian convict killed 10-20 ukrainian draft van victims are liquidated, and relieved of their life and limb
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its every single last member of the afu's future!
no refunds!
ukraine's in a desperate situation, which is fine because they are a poor country fighting a defensive war that they weren't planning on fighting.
russia is in a desperate situation because they're fucking retarded, and they still are trying to pretend anyone should be scared of them.
i'm scared of russia in the same way that i'm scared of a down's syndrome kid with a kitchen knife.
YOU'RE WEAK RUSSIA PLEASE STOP!
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You and what fuckin army? Faggot
The same poll that said Harris would win
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the heroic deaths of ukraine's defenders inspire me to higher virtue. extremism in the defence of liberty is no vice. i will donate more to ukraine, in the expectation that my money will enable more brave ukrainians to kill russians.
The stock pile of cold war munitions was reaching end of life
nothing nato sent was "old" "stockpile" (LMAO not one nation has "stockpiles of ANYTHING) nor was it "hand me down" or "obsolete"
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nato sent 100% of its modern, state-of-the-art and most advanced weapon systems, the ONLY ones they had, that were literally irreplaceable
nato's industry is so abominable
that it would take HUNDREDS OF YEARS for nato to re-arm even at predicted SURGE rates
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LMAO
look at that
europe sent everything it had, LOST and is now in hair-on-fire hsysterical panic, locked out of peace talks crying like the women they are
You're fuckin scared of fuckin lady cops telling you to get inside and lockdown lmao shut the fuck up
cope and seethe lol. support for ukraine is rising, because everything trump tries to do backfires. the russians bet on a retard because they are retarded.
Yeah they're fine you moron. You can shoot ammo from WWII just fine too.
cope seethe etc
werent planning
shelling russians for 8 years
The fuck is wrong with ur tranny faggot brain?
The UK and Russia have been testing bioweapons on each other for decades, there isn't going to be an obsolete usa sand nigger bullying war between us anyway.
Let me tell you who supports what in your country
HAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHH Zalensky could get his head cut off live and nobody here gives a fuck. Nobody here is coming to save you! You desperate fuckin pussy
ukraine is a pathetic faggot nigger nation that started the war 10 years ago, failed and is now playing the victim like the bitch they are
the rest of the world sees this
which is why no one supports ukraine
no one gives a fuck how many of them die
and would actually prefer to help ukraine die faster and harder if possible
you can "expect" whatever you want faggot Anon Babble nigger, the reality is that every dollar you send to ukraine only kills ukrainians harder and faster
which is GIGA-BASED
Munitions all have expiration dates you fucking retard
nobody expected russia to do anything about it because any attempt by russia to invade ukraine would be a hilarious disaster. unfortunately, people underestimated russian hubris, and here we are 3 years later.
the bright side is that a lot of russians are dead though.
Cope and seethe that lady cops locked me the fuck down and I didn't do shit
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Why we would want in NATO a country that shells its population?
Our entire military doctrine is built around defending against a Russian (previously Soviet) invasion
I get that Sven, but you were invaded by a different enemy. Judging by what I see when I fly into your capitol, the invasion seems pretty successful.
The stock pile of cold war munitions was reaching end of life.
Nonsense. Sell them on the civilian market.
support for ukraine is rising
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hatred for ukraine is at blistering all-time highs and I love it
implying you're american
Russia admits sending its military into Donbabwe.
the rest of the world sees this
the non-white world is immaterial.
if one Russian died, 10 ukrainians preceded him, and thats on the conservativeend
You're so fuckin scared you hope I'm not American now. The state of (you)
I get that Sven, but you were invaded by a different enemy.
Honestly nothing that can't be fixed in a few years. Just need the right political climate and mass deportations will commence.
he talking about Crimea dumbass.
Yes and they typically are good for a very long time. Why don't you tell us exactly how long after manufacture artillery shells expire? You don't rightly have any clue, that's why. I think the biggest problem you have here is you ACT like you're smart and knowledgeable but you don't demonstrate it. You're not doing well, but it's not like people get put on Anon Babble duty because they're good at useful work.
I get it. You're sitting on ass running down the clock here. It's better than trying hard at something. Your racial handicap is probably partly responsible for this mess you're in LOL.
Europe stands with Ukraine against Asiatic terror and opression.
Why we would want in NATO a country that shells its population?
nato LOVES that shit
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its ukrainians butchering Russian speakers at natos behest
There is something primal about that video that makes me want to go hunt some animals and live innawoods.
support for ukraine is rising
There is no better picture for this phrase.
The stock pile of cold war munitions
okay send f69s
tomorrow
Yeah just in 2 years your faggot ass populace will magically realize guns aren't icky?
the non-white world is immaterial.
yup, which is why europe is totally locked out of any peace talks or really any adult geo-political discussions of any kind
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its the "WHITE ARYAN SUPER NATO ARMY"
Honestly nothing that can't be fixed in a few years. Just need the right political climate and mass deportations will commence.
My brother, the copers in France and the UK said the same thing. SvP will never get into power and SD sold out.
the fire rises
maybe, but someone has to be left in the wreckage
Nobody cares, bitch nigga
You have no idea what you are talking about, tranny faggot shill.
Just stop you are embarrasing yourself
Huh?
LMAO the answer to that (pic related) has been stated many many times
the absolute state of pigger stupidity
and pigger denial
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london and the US plan is "THD"
it has been, and will be untill the last ukrainian dies
Good. Now post the kinds of guns Swedes own. And post the self defense laws while you're at it.
that video
imagine making a highlight compilation of your nation losing a war where 1 million PLUS of your men were killed, and all the while you have to pretend none of reality is happening, and that instead, *youre winning*
tranny faggot shill.
but enough about you, you filthy Anon Babble nigger
I don't think it matters in the long run. Europe is rapidly devolving into a checkerboard of Islamic states. And like all Islamic states that share borders, they will soon be at each others throats. That is the way of Islam. NATO is doomed regardless of what America does or doesn't do. It is a good strategy for the United States to cut ties now and begin to prepare for the future. It is very likely that America will wind up at war with an Islamic Europe by the beginning of the next century if not sooner. Unless Europe somehow goes full-on National Socialist and begins exterminating Muslims WWII style, that contenent is finished already and will soon be America's enemy.
save me from the women!
Unless you are the weakest faggot on the planet, there is not a single woman physically oppressing you. It's basedcucked men in the police and military taking orders from women doing that to you.
You are a 29 post tranny faggot piece of shit paid to come here and lie.
strategypage.com
All NATO nations were producing as much as they could, but production capabilities were only sufficient for building a small war reserve of shells with a shelf life of at least a decade and often more like 15 or 20 years.
biggest losers are the baltics who have been abandoned to be absorbed into the eastern bloc
USA is getting out of NATO and focusing on containing china in asia
hope you can speak russian sven
listen . I do not want your opinion. last time i watched some video essay about your country it has ant suicide youtube message bellow the video. Your country literally had 1/5 of the length of the video section about suicide. Maybe, I am weak ass faggot or whatever... but I am not gonna kill myself any time soon, i think... can you say the same?
Canada is probably the worst country in the world. Not even gay niggers in the middle of Southern Africa have to worry about the game shit you have to worry about. A black ass niggers has more value than you.
BUT DID VLADIMIR TAKE KYIV THO?
NATO nations were producing as much as they could
but production capabilities were only sufficient for building a
small war reserve of shells
with a shelf life
You Russians are huffing the good shit today, huh, IVAN the ASSKICKED CZAR OF THE MONGOLS
Anon Babble is down the street and to the left my redditoid faggot friend
After the massive ukrainian migration here I dont care, kill all ukrainians, theyre retarded animals that unironically wear adidas tracksuits and shave their head bald. Fuck all ukrainians. I have they all die
Welllllll, that's not entirely accurate.
you are nothing more than a five eyes faggot and you are terrible at your job, kill yourself
I could change boards but you'll still be losing Russians.
The only point I am trying to make is zero USSR shells were used in this war on either side.
It seems like European dictators have forgotten how war works.
They DEMAND everything to be returned before ending the war..
Because that's how wars usually works, right?
You fight, conquer and then give it back? They're so delusional it's comically funny
I love the fact that youre so buckbroken you have to believe we are all Russian... Like reality scares you this much lmao
and ukraine lost the war, and got 1 million + of its own men killed for exactly nothing
lmao, its another one of those "nato-moments"
"we demand Russia surrender and kill itself before any discussions begin!"
and they say it like its some kind obvious, universal truth, understood by all, too
Here it is, heres the nato/us/uk approved '10pt ukrainian peace plan":
"Russia can sit with its hands folded quietly, while nato and ukraine (the winners) decide its fate,
and when decided, Russia will accept the decision, bow, and exit the room in silence"
and now, for the decision:
ceasefire time-out so ukraine and nato can catch their breath and re-arm
restoration of ukraine to 1991 borders
ukraine joins nato
Putin is arrested, tried, then executed at the hague for 'war crimes'
Russia is de-militarized, balkanized and divided into small adminstrative zones under nato command
assets of former Russian federation are redistributed across europe as reparations
Russian people are collectively punished for 'voting for Putin"
ukraine joins nato
ukraine gets nukes
this^ is the literal, actual (((10 step plan for peace))) ukraine and nato have stated are THE STARTING POINT for even considering the first word of negotiation with Russia (which is currently still "illegal" under ukrop law)
the ukraine can literally go ass fuck itself
thats its future
president.gov.ua
president.gov.ua
Anon Babbleikes literally have no other "plan"
their script says
it was utterly inconceivable to them (((they))) might *lose*, thus you get this cognitively dissonant insanity like these idiotic piss talks, simply to prop up buck-shattered domestic ukrop morale
They are probably Ching chang chong spies for China. I bet they do busy work in the intelligent departments and then steal all our intel and send it to their ant colony known as china. Why do all CHANGs look EXACTLy the same? I don't care who you are, even if your a chang yourself. I bet even changs can't tell each other apart. Which is why they are perfect for their communist order following society ant colony of sociopathic people.
nope, these are bog-standard US army faggots
webm related
and heres more of them
You have no idea what you are talking about
I do, you don't. Now how long after manufacture does a standard HE 155mm artillery shell expire?
You don't know, it's just as I said. You're not trying your best. I'm sure that's been noticed lol. No wonder Iran and Russia and China are all stomping us in cyber. They're probably still inside your SolarWinds you moron.
None of the Western countries are involved beyond sending military equipment you 'tard.
I just posted a link that said a shell lasts 20 years max. Are you a retard or a faggot or both?
Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with your brain?
lmao, yah the MOMENT the nato nigger takes off his euro trash velcro patch, and puts on the ukike velcro patch *MAGIC* hes no longer nato!!
brilliant jew kike logic you have
You posted a blog article, that's hardly on the level of official information. You're stuck in your gay loop, even though you're on KP duty right now they STILL need to give you exact instructions on how to Anon Babble.
This shit's sad. You're making America sad. You probably weren't even born here so I doubt you actually care though. Service means shitizenship!
Ok faggot
We Must Have Done a Good Job,’ Says French Fighter, Alive and Well After Russians Claimed They’d Killed Him
Now in France, a French soldier who fought for Ukraine spoke to Kyiv Post about his alleged death and his connection to a Ukrainian officer who had befriended his father, a French general, in 1995.
Obema Ben Leden: “We are imposing crippling sanctions. Russia's economy is being ripped to shreds.”
Trump (1st term): “Sanctions from hell. Russia's economy is collapsing.”
Biden: “Russia's economy is torn to shreds, we're imposing devastating new sanctions”
Trump (2nd term): “We will impose devastating sanctions. Russia's economy is faltering.”
When will I feel it?
blog
You are a lying piece of shit
So why dont you post proof of artillery shelf life?
Tranny faggot
Why would NATO bomb Serbia when Serbia was shelling it's own country towards insurgents?
What about all the civilians NATO shelled in Serbia?
Why does Serbia spare Albanian civilians but NATO bombs Albanian civilians?
the whole point of the Ukraine distraction was to give time and opportunity to topple Syria for Israel
it's done its bit, the point of the NATO delusion is to consolidate European military "will to power" under US foreign policy aka Israeli foreign policy, doing it this way gives multiple levels of deniability, but, as always, the nature of anything is the results it produces and not the things it pretends to be or what people delude themselves it to being
Because the house if cards is falling down. Notice how there are zero reports of civillians killed in ukraine? Thats because its less than 15,000 (nato figures). At this point in the Iraq war NATO had killed at least 300,000 civillians. Some claim more.
lmao
yah
Retard alert.
nato provides service
Are you dumb? No country has forced (nor can they force) their soldiers to go to Ukraine.
brilliant jew kike logic you have
It is illegal to question the existence of Nazi gas chambers in Putin's Russia. Putin's administration keeps lying about fabricated Nazi crimes and they keep opening Holohoax museums using taxpayer money. Cope and seethe.
mercenary who goes to fight for money means his country is involved
Are all Americans retarded or is it just the Anon Babble effect? Oh look, a US Marine in Ukraine
youtu.be
that means the US is directly involved in Ukraine! Despite 0 out of its 200+ F35s being there, 0 out of its 200 F22s, 0 special operations unit deployed, etc. Imbeciles.
I'm not the one in here claiming superior knowledge you low-rank idiot. See your problem is your facade is just an act, you're a monkey in a little pyjama suit and you don't actually knows shit.
You made the claim of 35 year old shells were being used.
Back it up, faggot
dogshit nigger semantical bullshit
nato's in the war to the extent that ukraines failure is a strategic defeat for nato so much so nato is going to be disbanded
You made the claim of 35 year old shells were being used.
A claim you still haven't disputed with any reliable official information.
"natos not involved in ukraine at all!!!!"
"not one soldier!"