Portugal Elections 2025
Close the borders. No more cheap immigrant labor.
quais são os resultados? Não estou em Portugal, perdi as ultimas 2 horas. Quem falta apurar?
Ergue-te CHADS, I kneel
Okay so how exactly will my life change in the next 4 years?
É só clicares no link, esta a 99%, com 5 freguesias por apurar
I moved after a little bit of college over there
I saw the future ahead of me if I stayed, I didn’t want any of that
But yes, another big reason to live here, you can actually protect your fucking life if some nig nog breaks into your house
Qrd? Did the good guys win?
you can count on gas getting about 0.10€ more expensive in the next 1-2 months, because Montenegro will increase the taxes on it.
If the picture was accurate, the niggers would be holding knives.
We're really going to get a central block government from PSD and PS, with the excuse of fiighting back fascism... In reality they just want borders open.
They will ignore CHEGA again and claim that it's just a party of racists and chuds, when in reality only boomers and retired old fucks vote PSD and PS.
Every person that contributes to society is either voting CHEGA or IL.
Trannies and old people are voting PCP.
Good guys?
so... social democrats won?
No but got significantly stronger.
Not yet, but non-existent 5 years ago Chega! is now the 2nd most voted party.
They want to end the gibs for niggers, troons and gypsies
Ainda não foi desta que nos livramos da Mariana Mortalha
O BE elegeu? Que cancro
I don't know how is you life right now.
If you earn minimum wage, like i do, then you can expect kep getting fucked in the ass
There are no good guys here, only good goys
Fodasse o Pan também que merda. Pelo menos, dividem os votos de esquerda
O Montenegro vai enviar raparigas jovens anime góticas com tetas grandes para apaziguar os votantes do Chega e Ergue-te
not much and for the worst since the mason will be PM
More of the same 50 yo shit
O Pan também, que cancro
The bad guys got their ass kicked
Sim, apenas 1 deputado mas é um partido às portas da morte
Trannies and old people are voting PCP.
Nah, trannies vote for Livre
Encouraging I suppose. So who won? Globalists, marxists or (((conservatives)))?
São Sebastião
WHAT'S THE HOLDUP?
Pretty much
Honestly, America sounds like a lovely country. Most Europeans seethe about it because this continent is poor as fuck and you have cool rights like gun rights.
Sad day. Having to see PCP and BE in parliament in 2025 is absolutely fucking ridiculous.
Keep in mind these are parties of actual left wing terrorists, trannies, insane communists, LGBT BBC addicts, etc.
These are parties whose only goal is to kill white men, end traditional family values and indoctrinate your children with porn.
Eh, só vão fazer barulho no parlamento.
So who won? Globalists, marxists or (((conservatives)))?
Yes.
Globo-homo light socialists lead by a fucking mason
((conservatives))
Chega is controlled opposition, I have no clue why anyone is celebrating. Thank god I will never go back
They vote for PCP to a huge degree believe it or not. All the dysgenic freak vote goes BE/PCP
Aquilo é uma projeção, oficialmente o PAN ainda não elegeu ninguém
O DIA DA CORDA CHEGOU FDPS
é bem feita para o PNS e PS no geral. as lágrimas da esquerda são deliciosas
Not yet. There's a huge reserve of people like me, standing back and standing by. You still have to earn our vote, if you want to.
Nada vai mudar, és tão ovelha como os danones do PS
"I recommand a bigger dilator to all troons who voted for BE and Livre"
Dr Chud, MD
t. GDP worshipping social parasite
Go get a job you faggot scum
I am a proud terrorist indeed. I can't stand you lazy ass scumbags.
PCP is the only true nationalist party in this society fo corrupt scum. ANti-EU, anti-NATO, bringing back mandatory military service
Yep, that sums up Europeans who either A never left or B visited the US for a week or two on some hyper tourist metropolitan area and got to see some nogs running around doing nog things
It’s just cope, but it’s understandable cope under the current circumstances of propaganda, at least I understand it. Again I grew up there so I know very well the two sides of the coin. I just wish your average euro wasn’t so prone to getting cucked by fucking propaganda, we have hundreds of years of history fighting barbaric shitskins.
All of that heritage for what?! All down the fucking drain cause we decided to let those big nosed faggots infiltrate our western society AGAIN. Cause it didn’t happen enough times in the past…
Pathetic
lole
This.
If you don't believe this, just look at the news channels and when they go to the BE/PCP bases, it's literally only weird looking faggots, trannies, people with insane coloured hair
LIVRE obviously has tranny votes, but it's not comparable.
BE and PCP are THE tranny parties.
2035
30% of the Portugal is now immigrants
PPD/PSD.CDS-PP.IL.VOLT/L-PAN gets 30% of the vote
PS gets 20% mostly from immigrants
CHEGA at 45%
rest go to communists
CHEGA is off by one in terms of seats from forming a new government
next election in 2036
Demasiados partidos meme
Democracia é um meme
danones
volta para o ptchan, neet seboso.
foi um claro soco duro à esquerda, deixa a retórica de perdedor e lida.
CDU comrades, another victorious night. WE NEVER LOSE
Anti-EU and NATO because it appeases their russian overlords
Interesting. Well there are definitely interesting times ahead, our nations seem to be getting more and more divided, something will have to give eventually.
Thanks for spoon-feeding me the info, I’m off to bed.
Top, e diz-me que vai fazer esse soco duro à esquerda? Muito seethe que têm a sua piada, concordo com às lágrimas.
Não sou neet, o país é uma merda, e todos os partidos também
Haha it would pretty hilarious if that just kept happening, but I'm not sure if it would be Chega winning. It would probably be Ergue te.
Since 2019 Portugal went from 400k immigrants to 2 million. By 2035 Portugal will be 50% immigrants kek
By then the political parties will be shitskin parties, they won't even be targeted towards to Portuguese people, kinda like the jeet ruled parties in Canada
Suspending disbelief for a moment and playing along with the show, why did this backfire for PS/go well (?) for PSD? I don't keep up with politics much.
soluçao
e feia e passa por tirar a xuxa do imobiliario, mas mal se menciona pensar em comecar a enfrentar a questao a ue rompe com os gonzos e despoja o sitio
Our nations are finally sorting themselves out between universalists who prefer the welfare of foreigners, and in-group-preferentialists that prefer our societies to work for us.
Starmer is a faggot but he's not stupid.
A solução passa primeiro por impor leis que matem a puta do mercado imobiliario
Eu digo merdas tipo
Tens de ter cidadania (mesmo cidadania, não residencia) para comprar casa
Maximo de casa por pessoas (duas por exemplo)
Limites absolutes sobre preços de rendas e prestações de bancos para compra de casa.
A unica forma de esta merda entrar nos eixos é como control do mercado mas isto é demasiado extremo po pessoal.
Reminder that André Ventura, Luis Montenegro, never worked for a living. Parasites!
Ventura used to """""work""""" as a football pundit, where he would defend one of the biggest criminals in this nation, Luis Filipe Viera, who owes to the portuguese tax payer 300 Million €. Parasite!
FINAL RESULTS IN
CHEGA TIED 2ND WITH PS BUT STILL MISSING IMMIGRANT VOTES WHO OVERWHELMINGLY VOTE CHEGA
nigger
people just really hate PNS (PS leader). He was part of the 10-year government in 2 different deparments, and did absolutely nothing in either of them (one of them - housing, an extremely important issue in portugal). Plus he was involved in a huge scandal involving TAP, the portuguese flag carrier.
A mim mostra que já têm um
Ventura was a college professor teaching law at some point.
BE had 1 single flag in their shithole and it was a Palestine flag
CDU were chanting "Palestine will win"
a dispute on the other side of the fucking Mediterranean that has been going on for ages
we are not even directly involved
amazing priorities, A+
cancro do caralho
Luis Montenegro, never worked for a living. Parasites!
Man got rich before ever being someone notable in politics
never worked
ok commie
Pela primeira vez em muito tempo tens uma terceira força politica taco a taco com o PS.
Isto muda as leis do jogo feito no parlamento.
Os votos todo do ps e esquerda nem chega ao PSD, para veres.
é lidar.
puta que pariu o PAN manteve mesmo, que cancro
ok estou a ouvir
Brazillians can vote after only 5 years living here.
It's literally a meme.
Nepia sem imigracao os salarios nao mudam que chegue e simplesmente nao ha servicos, deves achar que o tuga tem umas margens lucro por ai alem
toda a gente com 100 de QI sabe que nao imigracao aumenta os salarios . isto vesse com a merda da koreia dosul japam etc . paises que estao a "morrer" e sao altas potencias ecomomicas e ethnoestados.. portugal esta mesmo fodido o gajo que comentou aquilo pode ser branco ,. mas ten de ir na mesma para o campo de trabalho.
André Ventura was a fiscal lawyer & professor.
PNS is pretty charismatic and he did well in debates. People are punishing PS.
AD + Chega + IL já têm 2/3 da Assembleia. Podem vir aí mudanças na Constituição comuna.
Ventura é um literal controlled opposition que fez a sua tese sobre o perigo de movimentos populistas. Não vai fazer nada, não têm minimo de espinha.
A verdade é que não há solução política, se quiseres fazer algo e não estar aqui a masturbar-te mentalmente, tenta organizar-te localmente
PNS is pretty charismatic and he did well in debates. People are punishing PS.
maybe if you have autism.
According to Statistics Portugal, in the year 2024 56,691 children (67%) were born to Portuguese-born mothers, while 27,951 (33%) were born to foreign-born mothers. Compared to the year 2015, this represents a significant decrease in children born to Portuguese-born mothers (71,462 or 83.6% in 2015) and, conversely, an increase in children born to foreign-born mothers (14,038 or 16.4%)
Fucking hell Portugal, we are in the same boat
O sul: FORTE!
ADN só desceu 20k votos
surpreendente nao ter sido mais
pena o chega nao ter ficado em segundo
graças a deus o BE ter descido, criminoso terem conseguido 5 paneleiros deles na ultima vez
I've suspected fraud for years - but have no idea how it's done. The urns - or, after the votes are counted and sealed - are transported by the police I think to the Municipal County building or tribunal. The only thing I can think of - is the urns being changed on route. Does anyone have any other theories?
Lembrem-se: o primeiro a fazer "direitices" perde.
fuck off troon go dilate faggot liar
Ventura was a teacher in the University and had a bakery , go cry to reddit faggot troon , dickless homo
Awwww
You fell for the propaganda
How cute
Back to work wagie, don’t forget you gotta pay the shitskins bills
Their free rent and free food so they can comfortably keep raping your daughters and killing your sons isn’t gonna pay for itself
Tu e os teus amigos esquerdalhas Tao acabados, o pessoal vai acordando aos poucos, aproveita enquanto dura, o show ta a comecar
Immigration can increase salaries if the person moving in is Jensen Huang who found global titans of industry.
It's going to decrease salaries if it's just brazilians and indians.
Já estava mau p crl em 2015.
Conseguiram meter um entretanto, quando postei ainda não era oficial, apenas muito provável
>ergue-te so teve 0.80% dos votos
ja esta oficialmente so existen 8k portugueses. o resto e tudo macacos o indianos
pena o chega nao ter ficado em segundo
there's still the international seats to be counted (Chega won 2/4 last time)
The honkiest part is how a bunch of those "Portuguese" mothers are probably 2nd/3rd gen migrants.
All the brazilians I know are voting for Chega and this really raises some questions about this whole affair
PAN STILL ELECTED KEK
LOST 40K VOTES, ONLY HAS 1% AND STILL HAS REPRESENTATION
PAN NEVER DIES
qual teoria? Fala com as pessoas, é um país de mansos. Os resultados são o que são, nada vai mudar a nível do país, não há solução política.
toma medicação esquizo
I seriously can't stand Rui Rocha. Guy looks like a mongoloid. (doesn't help that Liberals are retarded)
Sempre um caralho de cravo na mão.
Go clean all the tourist cum off your mirror and take a good look at yourself...
And let's not talk about all the RE scum jumping on cancerous trendy tourist destination fueled AL (which Chega btw defends...).
Sabes ate aceito q isto seja verdade. The rise of the “extreme” right in Europe being a little bit of a throttle off all part of (((their))) plan. To make people think they’re actually doing something
The flaw in the plan though, se eles nao direcionarem bem a direita, Arrisco me a dizer q é uma questao de tempo ate perderem controlo total
Se o numero de migras nao for exponencialmente pra baixo e as mortes e violacoes continuarem a ir pra cima ao ponto de ser impossivel de esconder, what comes next? I mean if people really see that neither the left or the right controlled opposition can fix anything, what happens next? It’s not pretty…
PAN are good lads. They focus on dumb shit like bull fighting and what not sometimes but they also try to help lower vet costs in general which as someone that owns an animal that's always nice to have someone in parliament putting forth those things.
1 or 2 guys of these in parliament is unironically good.
All the brazilians I know are voting for Chega and this really raises some questions about this whole affair
Is simple:
THey dont want favelados, niggers, rapist and thugs doing the same things they have escaped from macaco land
Ele é o Sócrates da Temu e só fez merda nos governos em que esteve. Num dos últimos vídeos que vi dele, ele estava a dizer que os últimos 50 anos foram ótimos em Portugal.
Actually, that’s not true. Many of them are voting for IL as well. I’m pretty sure the majority of IL voters were born in Brazil.
Os aumentos dependem das margens de lucro, que no nosso caso sao irrisorias. Tens um pais com um retalho empresarial fraquissimo. Os aumentos que se seguiriam como eu disse, nao chegariam para colmatar a falta de mao dobra. O tuga nao quer foder as costas aos 35 por mais 150 mocas. Acorda pra puta da vida chavalo. A solucao e fazer uma limpeza estrutural aos interesses especulativos, a malta vive bem de salarios "baixos" se o resto for acessivel
I hope Algarve will secede before that happens.
basicamente final, com votos no estrangeiro. 1 para PS, 1 para PSD, 2 chega (votos 2024)?
PSD -> 86 + 1 = 87
Chega -> 58 + 2 = 60
PS -> 58 + 1 = 59
De qualquer maneira, nada vai mudar, mas vai ser bacano ver às lágrimas da esquerda
I know for a fact of small scale voter fraud that happens when counting votes in smaller towns. They take the point of a bic pen, put it hidden between the fingers, and use it to make valid votes invalid by scribbling over them and to turn blanks into votes by quickly writing a X on their parties. But this practice is probably irrelevant on the bigger picture.
Yes, absolutely, any brazillian who has dealt with the SEF knows it’s a complete mess and that it doesn’t really control anything. It’s still funny that they vote for the anti-immigration party at a considerably higher rate than the portuguese.
É um golpe na credibilidade do PS e pressão no PSD para não serem um PSDois, mas neste sentido não vai haver grande mudança.
So most portuguese immigrants in europe voted for the far right while immigrants living everywhere else voted for conservacucks?
that's surprisingly based
Nope, only the few doctors I know. The many favelados are parasites and vote accordingly.
xô daqui anarquista. isto aqui não é o teu círculo.
Queres caos vai para o Haiti. Aqui impera a vontade do povo.
surprisingly based
They left for a reason.
Bullfighting is the one cool thing you still have in Portugal. If you get rid of it, it’s over. You don’t need a party dedicated to this shit, start a base movement for vet shit or something.
I see parties like PAN and even PCP as a good thing to have in very small numbers so they can focus on certain issues but they shouln't have too much power or everything goes full retard.
my chidren may be trans, my wife may be a sex worker, my country may be brown, my friends may be homeless pot smokers, but at least we have FREEDOM and LESS TAXES
MENOS ESTADO MAIS BANDEIRAS LGBT
Acorda pra puta da vida chavalo.
a malta vive bem de salarios "baixos" se o resto for acessivel.
nao vais ter nada e vais gostar. btw porque que estao bue imigrantes a usar servicos publicos intupindo os mesmo fazendo estes nao acessiveis os que pagam e trabalham por ordenados minimos??
mais um para o campo de concentracao . ai nao limpava limpava portugal . e tudo traidor contra tugas e todos os castanhinhos ... ainda bem que nao vai mudar nada e que os pretos e zukas continuem a ter filhos os puntapes. e mais gajos que vao tombar quando as guerras raciais comecarem . mal posso esperar para matar pretos quando mais me apetecer
did you know that brazuca and indians can vote? very cool
Why the fuck do you think we left
Não há solução politica. As democracias por definição são muito tolerantes e aceitam qualquer ponto de vista. Qualquer tentativa de reforma é integrada na maquina democratica e moderada.
A unica maneira da Europa mudar é uma recessão economica gigante que ponha ruas a fogo, esta estagnação atual não vai fazer nada.
O problema é que a maquina do estado moderno está muito tecnocratica, a economia é gerida basicamente apoliticamente, e evita estas situações.
É preciso uma situação muito extrema economica ou algo como 30 ou 40% de imigrantes no pais para mandar tudo abaixo, até lá. nada vai mudar.
Na verdade, o pior cenário é as pessoas começarem a abrandar o ritmo de imigração, assim de certeza que em 300 anos não há portugal. Em 50 anos, 30% ser imigrante é na verdade um bom cenário.
jeets out
zukas in
Yeah it's really no surprise there
puntapes
Quem está aqui a levar "puntapes" é o Português
It's an animal rights party, fact is bullfighting does have issues with that, which I don't mind being raised. I just don't agree with ending the practice entirely due to its cultural significance. And I say all that personally I hate it. Ain't my thing to see the animals fucked with.
PCP needs at least 10-15 votes at all times, but that's just my view of things. The party of Alvaro Cunhal is dead in a lot of ways honestly, which is sad.
Those niggas don’t vote even in Brazil where they’re forced to. Except for some actual favelados I know (not personally) who are unironically voting for IL.
I got dragged along by my lefty mother, I could see myself retvrning when I finish my studies and save some guito/my cat dies (whichever comes last).
Não há solução politica. As democracias por definição são muito tolerantes e aceitam qualquer ponto de vista. Qualquer tentativa de reforma é integrada na maquina democratica e moderada.
e pena que isto nao e a realidade. a realidade eque o ergue-te teve menos de 1% dos votos e sao o unico partido que quer acabar com os vistos dos pretos e zukas. .. o portuguese ja nao existe. e tudo preto o zuka.
Not even 10% up
I got dragged along by my lefty mother,
Oh? She doesn't like our socialist utopia?
Dude come on this is a strawman of the IL positions. We need massive economic reforms in every aspect of life, much lower taxes and more freedom. Portugal is currently converging with the Balkans in terms of our economic output.
lmao they force you to vote? What happens if you say no?
porque que estao bue imigrantes a usar servicos publicos intupindo os mesmo fazendo estes nao acessiveis os que pagam e trabalham por ordenados minimos??
Porque foi a lei da selva na ultima decada e a especulacao imobiliaria comeu o rendimento de toda a gente precaria que força a ir ao publico. Vai chamar traidor a outro, o barco de ser competitivo com holandas e o crl ja passou, agora e fazer com o que temos e isso passa por desbaratar interesses . Mas nunca vai acontencer pq politicos tem todos quinhao neles
(NOT COUNTING EUROPE AND REST OF WORLD)
I wouldn't be surprised if the Portuguese under-30 population outside Portugal is bigger than inside
No, it's 50k votes below PS (but will get 1 more seat, thanks to emigration vote).
(NOT COUNTING EUROPE AND REST OF WORLD )
East-West countries > north-south countries
qual vontade do povo? O chega com maioria,não sai da Nato, não sai da EU, não para os Palops. O chega é controlled opposition, o ventura literalmente fez a teste dele sobre "Populism bad".
+ O Chega não têm sentido de estado, nem visão para o futuro, uma vergonha comparado ao nosso passado imperial.
Mas, voltando a reiterar, não há solução politica. Algo simples, como ter uma familia e ensinar os teus filhos, e ter uma comunidade vai bater 1000 vezes o impacto de votar, que tu querias ou não é zero.
Não estamos em lados diferentes, uso a bandeira do anarquismo sem nenhum motivo especifico. Estamos do mesmo lado, mas o teu metodo nunca funcionara
Anão I'm not gonna blogpost in depth now. But I do feel a bit ashamed of still being here. Not as if I fit in at home either, but still.
Qrd please: are the results good or bad for globohomo?
anon, they want to ban bullfighting. in fact, big, televised bullfights were unofficially banned - all you have left is small/mid-town bullfights
I just don't agree with ending the practice entirely due to its cultural significance.
É acabar com os cavaleiros que não passam de betos cucks a aterrorizar o touro porque o pai deles nunca os abraçou, e manter os forcados, esses sim homens com tomates que enfrentam o touro com bravura.
They're indecisive. Trend is good.
But they won't suffice. We let in 2000000 (TWO MILLION) immigrants in the last 9 years, in a country with 10 million people.
A lot of minor annoyances like not being able to renew your drivers license, apply for government jobs or getting some documents.
High IQ take
O personal a chamar te anarquista nao consegue ver o futuro 1 ano a frente sequer
A verdade Tambem é q democracias da forma como sao implementadas hoje sao um bebe em termos de gestao de estados. Classico ciclo historico de tentar governar de certa maneira, foder tudo, arranjar um novo sistema, rinse and repeat
Compreendo e acho q estas completamente correto, quem nao ve nao quer ver porque tem q admitir q nao ha solucao boa pra sair disto
Os forcados mamam-se no balneario chaval, sinto muito que tenhas de descobrir aqui no 4 chãos mas e para isso que ca estamos
Final results; last year's emigration vote: chega: 2; ps/psd: 1 each.
u pay 5 bucks fine
They're just bullying him for being a commie, which is good
qual vontade do povo?
o que aconteceu hoje. tudo o resto, é lidar.
não estas contente com a democracia?
Lida.
não gostas da AD?
Lida.
não gostas do chega?
Lida.
não gostas do PS?
Lida.
não vostaste?
Lida.
é lidar maninho. não há solução.
o que tu queres é mudança. e nada muda se não votares
Reminder that there 2 places in all of Portugal where you can actually kill the bull like in Spain
o ergue-te é demasiado meme e têm péssima comunicação. Ademais, tem a comunicação social a bater-lhes em cima se têm algum poder.
As coisas têm de ficar piores antes de ficarem melhores.
Tourada é literalmente o desporto ibérico. Só esquerdistas e cucks são contra.
I would eternally prefer being a bull that dies fighting for 2 minutes, than cattle that spends an entire life being fed to die as a slave. Leftists can never understand this.
Opps, picrel
Their Idol, Javier Milei, supports international organ commerce and sending all your gold to english banks (you’re not going to fall for this twice, are you?)
Livre with 4,20%
Based
Javier Milei, supports international organ commerce
Retard
Kek
Fucking commies
Massive loss for leftists, far right now tied as the second most voted party but can still grow with emigrant votes
Bulls are always killed, though, just backstage (by a vet).
In Argentina, the alternative to Milei is stagnant third world latin socialism/peronism where government assrapes your wallet, squatters have property rights and unions run the country.
There's no real choice.
Tourada é literalmente o desporto ibérico.
Fala por ti mesmo mouro, o meu jogo é o do pau
We need massive economic reforms in every aspect
Mas a IL nao iria la, para isso e preciso o estado a meter o pe na fresta
O problema é que ao final do dia as democracias são demasiado bem geridas vs 50 anos atrás. Mesmo portugal com 10 anos de governo de Antonio Costa, que literalmente evitava tomar qualquer decisão, nunca chegou a um ponto se quer proximo de rotura, que é quando tens malta que não consegue alimentar os filhos, ou que não os deixa sair à noite com medo de serem raptados.
Estava a falar com uma amiga minha do este da europa, que falou-me que no seu país nos anos 90, pós queda da união sovietica, os seus pais dormiam com facas debaixo da cama com medo de serem roubado a meio da noite. Antes deste ponto nada vai acontecer.
Eu não sou um commie lol, que nojo.
Nada muda se votares é esse o ponto que não consegues entender.
Lolwut?
Mas, voltando a reiterar, não há solução politica
Já chegou ao ponto que podes dizer “não há solução”. A decadência europeia é terminal. E digo isso como alguém afeito à região.
I would eternally prefer being a bull that dies fighting for 2 minutes, than cattle that spends an entire life being fed to die as a slave. Leftists can never understand this.
Poetic shit makes me wanna grab a smoke
Why the memeflag then? In fact why not just post with your flag?
That doesn't make sense. A stronger IL means a much stronger mandate to shrink the state.
podes dizer “não há solução”
Há sempre solução. O pintor austríaco tinha uma.
Who won ?
Which flavor of pro globohomo won ?
But for real now, how the fuck did Monty Nigger get an even better result than last time? He's been a disgrace of a Prime Minister. People here must enjoy taking up the ass.
Are there no more bullfightings in Campo Pequeno? wtf. Smaller bullfights were always better but I went there all the time back in the day.
Ih vou ser deportado rsrsrsrs
The Social Democrats, a centrist party.
The elections were inconclusive but the trend was good.
Boa viagem!
Lack of a good alternative plus the common portuguese still being mindbroken into only voting for two parties
Economically sounder than Chega, ((voto util)) and the fact they are being forced to turn to the right (which might bode well against immigration)
Nop. Vê coisas como a revolução europeia de 1848, em que tiveste malta comum a revoltar-se contra os maiores imperios, e estados mais centralistas da historia.
Há solução, mas para chegar a esse ponto as coisas têm que piorar.
This is literally the European spirit. The problem is that all of the left, and desu, most of the right prefer to be the cattle, that is legacy of German philosophy, ruined an entire continent completely.
It was never really part of the tradition to kill the bull on stage in portugal. Spain only adopted it in the 18th century and the portuguese simply didn’t. Same as doing it on foot.
Yep, completamente de acordo. Average normie doesn’t get this though, and they won’t get it until happens
Average normies will hear this and scoff at you “ah that’s impossible it can’t happen you’re just crazy haha”
Confia, eu digo isto a familiares e amigos e pensam todos q é muito exagerado. A historia repete se Sempre, e desta vez nao vai ser diferente
a centrist party
Fucking hell. Just like macron...
RIP, why european hate their own countries and people ?
They still happen, they just aren't televised
Como eu disse aqui em cima
We’ve been domesticated, muito propositadamente
Podes fazer as reformas liberais que quiseres, mas se nao puxas as redeas no imobiliaro e com força, nao te serve de nada, alias, so piora, porque aquele vai absorver tudo o que sobrelucrares. O dia que aparecer uma IL em tudo igual exceto nao dar a mao a torcer na habitacao, tenho partido.
JPP CADS WHERE WE @T?
ITS CELEBRATION TIME
Actually, he would be like a more centrist version of Les Republicains, Macron is to the left of him, albeit slightly.
Pedro Cuco Santos live
Real estate only has one solution, which is deregulating the housing permit system so a million houses get built in the suburbs.
All other measures are emergency demand side measures, and must be time limited.
You get to enjoy our very own niggers riots and qtards! No more just seeing the americans do it! Hurray!
A janela de oportunidade para isso acontecer já se fechou.
Estás a falar do Ensaio Geral de 1848? Que notoriamente falhou em todos os seus objetivos, a ponto de Marx fazer um post-mortem do fato?
O resultado da Primavera das Nações foi ainda mais autoritarismo com a consolidação dos estados-nacionais na Itália e Alemanha. Mudança só veio nos 1870 com o SPD e derivados numa contracorrente política que, mesmo assim, culminou nas Guerras Mundiais.
Lisbon/Setubal, Porto/Braga/Aveiro, Coimbra, Leiria and the Algarve must grow by 1 million homes, mostly in the suburbs.
No other choice. No other course of action will fix this.
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AD-CHEGA is preferable, and if CHEGA goes first place, CHEGA will be first place, and install a based Far Right Protuguese Monarchy
It's Pedrover
Errado, construir mais nao adianta um crl se um teto continuar a ser um investimento infalivel salvo sismo. Acoes sao volateis, mas rendem bem, obrigacoes estaveis mas rendem quase nada. Casas, melhor dos 2 mundos. IL nuna iria meter cobro nessas negociatas. Alem de que promotores d'imoveis nao sao tao dissuadidos por burocracia como margens de lucro, ias ter a mesma merda de casas a preco que tuga nem cheira.
Ja ha casas que chegue. Construir mais e criar mais gueto. E preciso bater com o pe, nao ceder como fariam esses frouxos da IL.
Linque?
PNS BTFO'D KEKEKEKEK
Finally won't have to see this smug nigga's face
How the fuck do you guys have a party with the commie flag? I thought that was actually banned?
Even more concerning how the fuck did 3% vote for it
bah gawd it's ANTÓNIO COSTA WITH THE STEEL CHAIR
Real estate only has one solution, which is deregulating the housing permit system so a million houses get built in the suburbs.
I too want Lisbon to end up looking like Lagos, Nigeria, and for a real estate agency to create a mozambiquean enclave in Vila Franca de Xira.
Ok, why are real house prices and real rent values stable in Austin but increasing in places like New York and Los Angeles?
Austin can sprawl, therefore it builds. The latter cannot. Building houses works, no doubt about it. We can tax non resident foreigners if you want. But a land value tax is good policy too.
Which of these parties is nationalist? Which one will let Claud marry his sister?
North is liberal at the core (as in myob), so Montypython's shenanigans are just "not my problem"; also he's from the north as well, and people really only care if he's a "man of the people" (i.e.: if he's personally likeable).
Our commies are pretty okay all things considered, since they're still in most ways old school commies. BE (Bloco Esquerda) is where all the new lefty faggots congregate to talk about muh gays and muh minorities.
I want the suburbs to end up like suburbs in the British Isles, except the pakis.
I waited for this for so long and now that it happened I didn't enjoy it as much as I had hoped. He was too defeated, no fire in him.
The amount of Indians and shitskins behind the reporters in the PS headquarters is very telling.
I'd wager 20% of PS votes are indians with fake citizenship
Reminder this was the result for the overseas vote last year
Why is the south the chuddy part?
They tried to kill the man but not his ideas:
youtube.com
CHEGA who just come 2nd place is nationalist
Two distinct reasons.
1. More immigrants
2. Chega is a big government party, and the North like small government
More huemonkeys and jeets per capita, people are more fed up.
they are tired of gypsies and poos
Oh. It's kind of worst. They pretend to be based but increase immigration while fucking the middle class like sarko... I hate hypocrisy.
More pajeets, bangladeshi, niggers and gypsies in the south.
Districts where people live closer to these communities voted more for CHEGA.
South is traditionally a left (as in, literal communist) strong zone so it's basically blue collars and other worker types. Think of the situation as an inverse of England really.
So naturally since the commies are dying and Chega are the ones actually talking about the stuff they care about, they vote Chega. Same shit as what happened to the rust belt in the USA.
If you want to live on those shitholes, just go to Montijo or Setúbal. It's almost the same thing.
except the pakis.
Yeah you will have indians instead.
The norf is stable. They used to be the chuds. Souf became chuddier because of jeetificafion and its trusted left parties ignoring the issue.
Replace org with gay and never worry about jannies again.
Initial contact with the new portuguese and the brunt of failed socialist/communist policies.
They're not, the pattern in those places is still low rise apartment buildings. Anglo suburbs are mostly houses, row houses (British Isles) or detached (Anglosphere)
Houses can be built cheap and fast
PNS BTFO
Brazillians vote for Chega and there's more brazillians in the south.
va la poe indianos ai dentro
foda se
They love big government in the South, meanwhile the North wants the government out of their fucking lives
If Chega drops the big gov act they'll win the North in the next elections
It's a divide that goes back to the Middle Ages, the North was mostly made up of peasant smallholders that value their land rights and independence, while the South was filled with large noble estates worked by peasants that never owned land
Yes, say what you want, but PCP was the only party that which had independence and national sovereignty as (constant) talking points (at least until their latest electoral debacles put them into a tailspin).
lol a porca a armar-se em dura
Anglo suburbs are mostly houses, row houses
Yep
Bolso won here, I think
pic as if it is somehow representative
You're arguing in bad faith, also you're not even portuguese so fuck off
Nigger.
não me toque
sue culture is so fucking gay
Building houses works, no doubt about it.
O tuga nao e trolha. Nao vai ser o tuga a construir. E preciso trazer de fora. Nao trazes de fora, nao ha casas, a ritmo suficiente, nao ha. Mas, boa noticia, ja ha casas que cheguem, so que sao veiculos de investimento. Que pena. Mas tras mais maçons que a malta constroi, se ha espaco, constroi-se. Sao Paulo é o limite.
I still enjoyed it. PNS is such a fucking dork LOL
Payassers unironically thought this retard was prime minister material.
If Chega drops the big gov act they'll lose in Lisbon and especially Setubal. They can't really fix the voting gap, it will always exist.
That just means leaving NATO
Prefabricated rowhouses and detached houses can be built for cheap in factories and assembled on site. Think bigger and bolder, obviously if you do nothing different nothing changes.
Just go to this thread and ask them about the average british suburb experience and see if I'm wrong in saying its undesireable.
also you're not even portuguese so fuck off
Arent you voting for an internationalist party? Why would this matter?
PNS out
The boodletting is only beginning.
Our work has begun.
O tuga nao e trolha. Nao vai ser o tuga a construir. E preciso trazer de fora.
Deves tar a gozar.
Isso e uma favela. Desengana-te.
Vai a um estaleiro em pt. Ves muito tuga?
Estas a falar do que caralho, os suburbios da angloesfera nao sao favelas, sao onde a classe media mora
portugal
poor jew girl
E essas casas sao prefabricadas? Antes compras uma caravana e pagas 200 ao mes para estacionar num parque para isso mesmo, mesma merda. Se e isso que queres, força.
Mais Uma boss ass bitch q leva uma chapada depois de por as mais num gajo e comeca a chorar q nao the podes bater pq é gaja
Many such cases
Ventura is so SMUG tonight
No, that was in reference to EU as well.
Nao sabes o que e uma casa prefabricada
norgeshus.pt
pineca.pt
modularhome.es
etc.
O tuga nao e trolha
...em Portugal. Vai à França ou à Suíça e lá os trolhas são todos tugas.
Jeet fatigue might keep the votes, but you're right, it's a huge difference in mentality that's very hard to break through
CHEGA FTW
VAMOS EM FRENTE CONTA O PS E PSDOIS
Are you talking from the perspective of someone from the South? I have a hard time explaining to people from there that people where I live most just don't like/are skeptical of the government itself.
AFAIK, Brazil had bullfighting. It died when people adopted American Rodeo™ and American-inspired Texan™ stuff.
Amigo tuga, agora captei.
Brasileiros sonham em ir pra Portugal e portugueses, por sua vez, vão pra França e Suíça.
Nesse mundo, todos nós queremos o que não temos.
De qualquer jeito, me preocupa ver que há lojas em Portugal que aceitam pagamentos em Reais via Pix. Não deixe isso acontecer.
em Portugal
So estou a falar de portugal, alias, metes te numa conversa sobre construir em pt. O tuga nao trolha em pt. Ha falta de mao dobra. Isso e facilmente constatavel. Tou-me a cagar no avec.
Isso e a mesma coisa que uma caravana estacionada na pratica. So que pior, porque mais uma vez, seriam usurpadas para investimento especulativo, o custo de construcao pouco importa. E agigantar lisboa, que ja rompe as costuras como esta. Para nao falar que cada vez mais retrocedes para uma realidade em que quem trabalha, habita em casulos.
Mete na cabeca, ja ha casas para todos.
essa merda fica ao mesmo preço que uma casa normal feitas todas as contas, e desvaloriza brutalmente se a quiseres vender, não recomendo
The Portuguese are fucking retarded.
They'll turn their whole country into India before they vote for a Trump or Bolsonaro type figure.
Today proved otherwise
think about working class blokes in Manchester or Liverpool hating Tatcher and voting left forever because of it, but then they saw muslims and trannies and decided the right wing was actually preferable to that
you can say this about the entirety of Europe
It's not even close (fabrication, transport, assembly, finishes), it's less than half in general, also it's much more location independent since manufacturing labor isn't location specific.
As for devaluation, perhaps, the market is very young, but in theory they should devalue at about the same rate.
These aren't pods, these are legitimate houses built using the same methods they build houses in America. They're the future of housing, at least in Europe. A house in the suburbs is better than the abominations they built in the outskirts of Lisbon, they look like commieblocks.
BASED SATan telling the truth
4 years
You have high hopes
I fucking hate cheganos
You had basically a Mitt Romney open borders cuckservative political party win.
Gonna be honest and say I don't have the experience, but from what I read online it seems people who did were surprised by the costs, pretty sure it won't be just half, more like 15% less, not to mention how difficult it is for banks to give you a mortgage because of it
Please don't put one of the best politicians that ever served on the same level of any Portuguese politician except Passos Coelho.
Based Chiggers.
Compared to a house in the suburbs of Lisbon/Porto? Half is about right, for the same type of house and finishes. Manufacturing and transport labor is location independent, only assembly and finishes matter. And banks have already started granting mortgages for these.
chega 2nd biggest political party
This shit is pretty crazy and im a chega voter, most I expected was being that 3rd party that just forces some measures to be implemented but Chega might actually go into the government in the future
Chega is never going into government except as the leading party.
Theres still bullfighting in the northeast but it's different (and not as cool) as the portuguese style. We had proper portuguese-style bullfighting up to to 1936, but it was banned by Getúlio Vargas. Vaquejadas only survived because they were practiced in the boondocks, where the government had little authority.
Chega will only go to government with absolute majority, even if psd is 2nd it's not guaranteed they'll accept being the junior coalition partner.
legitimate houses built using the same methods they build houses in America
Esse é um dos problemas, sao modelos de merda para se viver. Distopico mesmo. Longe de tudo, 2 horas para ir no trabalho por causa dos engarrafamentos diarios, os centros as moscas de trabalhadores porque nao mereces viver onde queres no teu proprio pais. Vai para a periferia na tua barraca (arrendada btw, nao compras por menos de outra de cimento porque o fundo imobiliario nao deixa), sê extorquido e aceita. Este pais e mesmo so para turista, fds. És mesmo frouxo crl, a IL é so gajos como tu.
De qualquer jeito, me preocupa ver que há lojas em Portugal que aceitam pagamentos em Reais via Pix. Não deixe isso acontecer.
The BCB ought to buy a marginally big euro reserve and allow pix to work with euro transactions abroad. That would be a huge geopolitical win. We need to make this happen.
As opposed to the poorly insulated brick and concrete shitboxes we live in Portugal?
Longe de tudo, 2 horas para ir no trabalho por causa dos engarrafamentos diarios
We need to build a lot more highways and road infrastructure, that connects suburbs to suburbs, like what happens in the Anglosphere
Vai para a periferia na tua barraca (arrendada btw, nao compras por menos de outra de cimento porque o fundo imobiliario nao deixa), sê extorquido e aceita
This doesn't make any sense, these houses are cheaper, better insulated, better looking than the alternatives
És mesmo frouxo crl, a IL é so gajos como tu.
You don't know the first thing about me, you sound like a hotheaded retard seething impotently like some chihuahua instead of thinking logically.
black woman
based
90% chance she's fucking a white Portuguese guy.
We would definitely block that service if that happened.
That's even worse, we already know how brasil turned out. You'd think people would learn from that.
vaquejadas
Watched them. Mounted vaqueiros pulling and downing bulls by the tail. Nordestinos go crazy for that shit. Some Vaquejadas are as large as Barretos.
Still very, very different from bullfighting.
Go back to escudos. You deserve monetary sovereignty.
Why dont you block SWIFT while you're at it?
You'd have to be insane to trust monetary policy to the government
What? We would block Pix because it belongs to a foreign power and there's no reason to allow it to operate while we have competitive alternatives.
As opposed to the poorly insulated brick and concrete shitboxes we live in Portugal?
Resultado de expansao desenfreada e nao se terem posto redeas na especulacao. Contornar o problema em vez de atacar, como queres fazer. Saira pela culatra.
We need to build a lot more highways and road infrastructure, that connects suburbs to suburbs, like what happens in the Anglosphere
Com que mao de obra, vais tu fazer isso? Nao vais, es um frouxo.
these houses are cheaper, better insulated, better looking than the alternatives
Uma casa mais barata que a alternativa no mercado livre, com muita procura? Nem a ves, es um peixinho no meio de tubaroes. Vais pagar preco de shitbox no centro.
You don't know the first thing about me,
És um frouxo, das o cu antes de bateres o pe.
We are already ruled by a Trump type figure.
Trump is a lazy, fat fuck, parasite, never worked a real job in his life. Just like our leader.
Same shit, different smell
Resultado de expansao desenfreada e nao se terem posto redeas na especulacao. Contornar o problema em vez de atacar, como queres fazer. Saira pela culatra.
Can you elaborate on this? I'm not seeing it.
Com que mao de obra, vais tu fazer isso? Nao vais, es um frouxo.
Yeah, I won't, I'm going to pay people to do it
Uma casa mais barata que a alternativa no mercado livre, com muita procura? Nem a ves, es um peixinho no meio de tubaroes. Vais pagar preco de shitbox no centro.
You're not making sense, does this happen anywhere else?
És um frouxo, das o cu antes de bateres o pe.
Actually, it takes a man to trust the market. Children and niggers want the government to do everything for them. Which one are you?
Still very, very different from bullfighting.
You need to understand that they are different now after 100 years of divergence under severe economic and social distress. These events were kept alive by starving people, with none of the old touro bravo lineages and with shitty horses.They had to be located in tiny backyards arenas, hidden away from government officials for decades.
They physically couldnt make a proper bullfight happen so they had to cope with using shitty horses to chase tame bulls.
We would block Pix because it belongs to a foreign power and there's no reason to allow it to operate while we have competitive alternatives.
Yeah. So does SWIFT. You do realize that, in order to make your transactions happen, you need to exchange your euros for dollars in an intermediary operation even within europe (including belgium), right?
Oh look a city slicker parasite that frantically went to the supermarket to buy cans of beans and tuna when electricity went out the other day.
muh trust the market
muh economic growth
Ahahaha holy shit. You reek of parasitism and uselessness.
Just fuck off to USA, go live with your fellow rwtatds across the pond. Stop polluting my country
wordswordswordswords
Nah you fuck off to north korea or cuba and go hang out with your negro BRICS friends
Gypsies and poojeets. A lot of them.
We don't have to allow Pix to operate in Europe, and we won't if it gets big. There is no reason for us to allow it.
True.
You can still find some pretty unusual cattle deep into the Northeast because of this genetic/economic isolation.
The bulk of Nordeste feels very "Portuguese", while Southern Brazil has more Italian and Spanish influence, dare I say.
On bullfights, it all morphed into American Rodeo™ somehow.
I honestly thought Brazilians went to Portugal and then fucked off to other countries.
Then I found out Brazilians stay in Braga.
Only the stupid ones stay, which is almost all of them.
going to pay people to do it
Mais imigrantes, porque tuga nao vao ser :) vai tudo para o teu bairro inovador na periferia.
does this happen anywhere else?
No teu pais, aqui ao lado em espanha, nos states, etc. Onde ha casas baratas e procura, ha tubaroes. Ou achas que um t0 em benfica numa shitbox vale mesmo 700.000 euros?
trust the market
Frouxo.
Close the borders. No more cheap immigrant labor
Why are you so antisemitic?
enquanto nao podermos matar pretos zukas e indianos o pais esta perdido. deviamos poder linchalos sem repercusoes. ate la nao muda nada. eu estou farto de ouvir zukas na rua e ver pretos QUERO PORTUGUESES CARALHO MESMO UQE SEJAM POUCOS
They said chega would never be in the parliament in 2019, later they said chega would never grow past a couple seats, later they said chega grew sure, but next election they’ll lose steam and regress, now we have chega beating what we can honestly say used to be the leading party in Portugal for the 3 past three decades
This happened in 6 years, with a little over 1.5 mil migras brownifying some areas of the country.
Do you seriously think that in the next say 5 years we won’t have chega winning the absolute majority with the pace this shit pot keeps stirring
Cmon dude
tu vais aceitar os based zukas e vais ser feliz
My bad I misread what you said
I’m retarded
Proceed
NAO VOU ESTOU FARTO DE ZUKASCARALHO ESTO FARTINHO E ISSO E PRETOS PORRA: EU QUERO BRANCAS
That's no different than accepting Visa, MC, etc. payments from accounts in dollars or whatever foreign currency...
Brancas são iguais a ti. Preguiçosas, inuteis, não querem ter filhos.
Eu vou produzir muitos bebés caramelo com a minha pretinha brasileira.
E eu tenho licença de posse de arma, por isso não terei problemas em limpar o sebo a ti ou qualquer outro merdoso que me queira impedir.
Vai para a Alemanha ó branco de merda, Portugal é para ibéricos
So just like sertanejo is now just country music as well
Portugal é para ibéricos
Eu vou produzir muitos bebés caramelo com a minha pretinha brasileira.
MALTA ELE E VOTANTE DO CEHGA ELES SAO OPOSICAO CONTROLADA. EU ESTO FARTO DE NAO PORTUGUESES E NAO EAUROPEUS TEN TODOS DE IR PARA OS CAMPOS DE CONCENTRACAO-. A TUA ARMA NAO VALE DE PICO SEU TRAIDOR
Deus te abençoe. Precisamos de mais incentivos para rainhas brasileiras virem para cá. Era isto que Salazar haveria de ter querido.
TEMOS DE REMOVER PRETOS ZUKAS E INDIANOS ENQUANTO NAO HAVER UM PARTIDO ASSIM PORTUGAL NAO MUDA : AMANHA VOU TER DE IR O TRABALHO E PASSAR POR PRETOS NAS OBRAS EU NAO QUERO ISSO REMOVAM OS PRETOS PFFF
Mas porque diabos vocês querem brasileiras?
Brasileiras são gordas, feias, preguiçosas, mal-humoradas, ciumentas, péssimas mães e feministas.
Existem opções muito melhores no mundo.
lol
lmao
No meu tempo o isco era melhor.
O pior defeito do brasileiro, é que não sabe o que tem
So what are the fuckin results?
PNS oficialmente deixa liderança do PS. Chega bem provável que seja a segunda força política após os votos dos emigrantes
Also, are Portuguese really 99% vaccinated kek
Probably not, however, my girlfiend and I are the only people I 100% know haven't had it