I don't understand Hamas' plan with Oct 7 when they gave Israel the pretext to final solution them

Hamas is controlled opposition. Nethanyahu funds them to be a convenient boogeyman preventing a 2 state solution. This Gaza war was allowed to happen in order for nethanyahu to avoid calls for his resignation. It's also an opportunity to grab more land.

Even by Jewish calculus where one goyim life is equal to a broken Jewish fingernail, Hamas still can't spin this as a W. How many dead Gazan's did they have to pay to take that guys legs? Thousands?

Think of it like a little kid kicking his older brother in the shin and then when he gets a smack back starts to cry and goes to mom and then the mom starts to yell at the bigger brother. And it worked a lot of the world bought it.

You gotta pace yourself when committing genocide on livestream. Can only make so much progress per news cycle.

IT WAS WORTH IT
I'LL DO IT AGAIN

But Gaza has fearless child fighters, the most fearsome in the world.

HE IS POSTING THIS UNIRONICALLY WITH THAT FLAG

and them killing women and children is making them look good???

And it worked a lot of the world bought it.

They won over the people that can't do anything about it, but not a single person in a position of power, in the western or arab or muslim world.

Everyone was pretty shocked and disgusted by all the goreporn flooding twitter and tiktok feeds. Kind of hard not to be desensitized and bored with it by now.

They don't have a plan.
They don't care.
They're doing it for the lulz.

muh optics!

Gazan's do more harm to Israel by getting killed on TikTok than they ever could by taking up arms and fighting as soldiers.

At least martyrs go directly to heaven, right?

This is accurate, except the older brother is an abusive child molester who's constantly "I can hit you and you can't get me back", and the younger brother thought he saw a chance to stand up for himself a little bit.

It doesn't change the fact, someone who is bigger than a child can easily kill them. And they were blinded by "right" and "wrong", and couldn't just practically see the power difference...some naive view that morality is a cosmic force in the universe that will protect them.
Evil people can wield power.

Sometimes you have to defend your honor and do the "right thing".

Honestly I'd do the same thing...go crazy and throw a haymaker at a 40/40 psychopath abuser at 10 years old, only to realize they DON'T have the compunction about beating kids as others do.
If fact, they're just purely proud of their muscles and their actions.

are you a kike

Did you see Eurovision?

It was a false flag to justify the genocide

No. I hate all abrahamists. I denounce the Torah, Tanakh, Talmud, Quran, Bible, etc.
Fuck Yahweh worshipers, all flavors.

Ok pajeet

Israel left the whole area unguarded and advertised it to the Palestinians who work in individual cells independent from central command.

All they had to do was trick one cell into thinking it was just a target of opportunity.

Israel baited Palestinian Saw Gerrara basically.

If you and your people are going to be raped to excintion anyway, why not fight back a little?

Come on dude, think strategically.
Gaza was always a thorn in the side of Israel.
Wiping the Palestinians out and annexing Gaza would secure Israel's southern flank, provide real estate for Jewish settlers, and permanently remove a breeding ground for discontent. They just needed a good excuse to do it.
So who do you think was actually behind the Oct 7th attack?
Listen, the Israelis may be vile but they aren't stupid. They are very much aware of how whites are being replaced, that by the end of the century the USA will be majority Hispanic, and most of Western Europe will be majority Muslim. Do you honestly think US President Hernández, UK Prime Minster Khan, and German Chancellor Atatürk will be sending money or giving political support to Israel in the year 2100? No. That's puts Israel in very dangerous situation. So they know they have to carry out a rapid expansion, greatly increase their size, and secure their vulnerable flanks if they are to stand any chance of surviving.

They brought this on themselves by promoting degeneracy and immigration to the West.

Yes, sure, but by destroying every developed nation outside of Asia they will be left as the dominate power in Europe and the Middle East. They just have to ride out a few rough decades while immigrant dominated Western nations decay into shitholes. Then they will have a free hand to do whatever they want, genocide whoever they want and write the history books at the end of it all.

That must have been an "oh shit" moment when they realized Israel was ready and willing to kill way more Israeli's as collateral damage on Oct 7, just to blame it on them and have even more of a casus belli to go ham on Gaza.

That's a reasonable theory. Realizing things are hopelessly fucked, they do one last big hoorah and storm the prison gates knowing they'll all be gunned down.

I wonder if the population of Gaza was down for this blaze of glory plan their leaders concocted, or just got dragged along.

The whole conceit of Oct 7 from Hamas' perspective was to put the cause of the Palestinians front and centre and the want for a state after the Abraham Accords would lead to normalization between Israel, Saudi and other gulf states. It worked in that those states now refuse to normalize with Israel without the establishment of a Palestinian state but it also made their cause global. Israel's PR is in the gutter thanks to the first live-streamed genocide and has caused a mass noticing campaign among the western population that no one could have imagined. Not in their wildest dreams. Israel is completely fucked in the future, even if they get away with what they're doing in Gaza, once the boomers die off, there's absolutely no one left to prop them up. At that point, nature will run its course.

You just proved its not a war. Its a genocide of civilians. Hamas is a civilian militia lawfully resisting an illegal occupation and genocidal invader.

To defeat Israel, it was always an image/PR campaign focused at ending Western support for Israel. Hamas has absolutely dominated the information war and has dealt a deathblow to western support for Israel in EVERYONE under 65 years old. Israel CANNOT exist without unlimited unconditional military support from the west and Hamas has dealt a fatal blow to this support assuring as soon as boomers lose their majority in government, support for Israel will end.

Hamas is mossad retard

caused a mass noticing campaign among the western population that no one could have imagined.

And this is of no consequence

They notice and they didnt care

shhh you are giving away Iran's plan.

based as fuck

Why do you think Israelis are desparate to act fast with impunity? They know they won't ever get a chance like this again as they've become the biggest pariah state on the planet and it's all downhill from here.

Don't confuse our governments being slave dogs to Israel to mean the people of these countries support what they do. The biggest normalfags imaginable are all anti-Israel. The US LITERALLY has to push forward laws to ensure people like Jews. This is the point we're at. Everything that's happening now will have major ramifications on the future.

It's perfectly logical why Israel want's to ethnically cleanse the land. Eliminating all the claimants is the surest way to settle land disputes.

I wouldn't be surprised if Hamas is badly infiltrated by Mosad and Oct 7 was concocted by Israel. Muslim's and Arabs are absolutely dogshit at keeping traitors out of their ranks.

Hamas is a civilian militia lawfully resisting an illegal occupation and genocidal invader.

and biblical law allows for extermination of a city when it refuses to surrender once there is no hope of being relieved

Maybe they just want to kill them?

You're overthinking it. People are just mass cattle. In the West, this resulted in lockdown zero-convid retardation and quacksine mandates, in places like the Middle East, people kill each other for the sake of the current mass hysteria.

Beyond that, both the jewish mindset and the muslim mindset share one fundamental common denominator:
Both jews and muslims have a strong tendency to despise - above all other concepts - the Christian concept of "Turn the other cheek"

If somebody attacks me, I have the right to defend myself

And hence, these cultures have been "defending" each other against each other (and others) for millenia, predominantly by use of misdirected, blind vengeance.

then why do you give a fuck, what do you get out of this

Israel will never be dominant power in the middle east without unlimited unconditional military support from the US. This support has an expiration, likely within the next decade as non boomers are at best apathetic to Israel, most on the left and right actually hate Israel.

Israel will never have the power to take on Turkey or Iran in any conventional conflict and even Egypt has totally changed after 30+ years of US military aid, Egypt was 2nd only to Israel for a long time in US military aid.

Israel was teetering on collapse or some sort of major societal upheaval BEFORE oct 7th and the attack only bought them some time, but the reality is, most Israelis will leave when shit gets bad. Their major source of growth of population growth is orthodox jews who are a massive drain on the government and refuse to contribute anything.

Bullshit. Normies have the attention spans of goldfish and sieve-like memories. It takes only a few deacdes of more brainwashing, propagand, and some more staged events to makes Gaza completely forgotten.
By the year 2050 Gaza will be an integral part of Israel, completely filled with Israelis living in beachfront condos, and renamed something completely different. Anyone talking about Gaza will be met with the same blank stares you would expect to get if you started talking about Alsace-Lorraine.

He's a kike trying to fit in. One of those types that unironically use the term 'woke right'

They set themselves up to be exterminated and all they accomplished was delaying the Abraham Accords. Israel's neighbors will normalize relations once this blows over, the "establishment of a Palestinian state" will be a moot point when there are no Palestinian's left to insist on two states.
Arab's (besides Yemen) won't lift a finger or risk rocking the boat to help them while they're alive and being slaughtered. Once they're gone, it will be water under the bridge.

this is what happens when you believe a fake god is on your side and numbers don't matter.
/thread

and biblical law

The rest of the world, particularity US and europe, does not operate under biblical law and Israel's existence is dependent on keeping wide spread US support, which they have already lost. Israeli power peaked in 2016 and has been declining ever since. Iran demonstrated how bad they can hit Israel and thats even with the US shooting down like 60% of their attack and moving 3 carrier fleets to protect Israel. Israel is now looked at as villains by the vast majority of western civilization, where a decade ago most saw them as allies and victims.

As far as I can tell, there isn't any organized faction against the jews. Whatsoever.
Their plans have a lot of flaws, but it doesn't matter how bad a player you are if there are no other teams to capitalize on your mistakes. On an empty court, your team can score as many baskets as you want, regardless of being terrible.
The jews have aipac, a community to organize around, "synagogues" they can use to easily recruit jews for political and extremist causes. It's funded and active.

Nobody else has as big of a group, knows what to do, can come up with their own strategies. This is what gives the illusion of massive jewish success.

Everyone has idea that they will do nothing and somebody *else* is going to do it, and they'll just be able to watch it like a movie. (They're right).
People are so brainwashed they think life is a movie where the bad guy always loses.

Not to be cringe, but it's like that part in Harry Potter PoA where the dementors are attacking and Harry's just like "No, wait, my father will show up any minute." And nothing happens while he's just watching and Hermionie is like "Harry, you're dying." And then he finally realizes it's him, and he jumps out.

That's how you are. You ARE dying, wide-eyed, hopeful, eagerly awaiting for some rescuer.

Things WON'T go your way. Like a cup doesn't move unless you go pick it up and move it, none of these things that "should happen" to the jews will happen.

That's a very great assessment of their vulnerabilities. I'm not denying it's true. But their losses are entirely self-inflicted, and nobody is going to take advantage of them and make them worse. It's like they live in an empty world.

On the other hand, I suggest doing nothing. Because if you don't realize this, you're too genetically stupid to start a movement anyways.
If there is one lesson from this, it's you do more harm than good if you try to be a hero. You just get two victims instead of one.
Just leave it alone.

Based and blackpilled.

if you don't believe in YHWH, you can't talk about the insane shit YHWHists are doing

Once the circus stops coming to town, I won't care.

Israel overplayed its hand. Most everyone in the world hates Israel and side with Palestinians now. The only ones that don't are jeets.

The hasbara isn't working when people get images of babies torn in half beamed straight into their heads in 4K from their phones. If you can't accept that Israel lost the PR war then we can't have a productive conversation. Maybe get out of that JIDF bubble and look around you for a second.

Hamas is essentially controlled by MoSSaD. It's that obvious.

how come all of your important architecture is from muslims then? all of your bollywood actors and actresses you worship are basically pakistani

Hey goy I'm a Nazi just like you goy but I like Israel! Don't we like Israel?

Lol. JIDF on overdrive this morning. Get rid of the memeflag. You're not fooling anybody.

You should learn how to be a pessimist and make plans from the worst case scenario.
Always underestimate yourself.

The law of attraction isn't real. Ruminating on "negative thoughts" won't make them real. It will give you a clearer idea of where your flaws are and what you actually need to do.

Positive people are delusional.

kek, how do Hindus cope with this fact?

-They have been under illegal occupation by Israel since 1967.
-They are being blockaded by Israel, who won't let in any food, water, fuel or electricity
-Every single country in the world wants a 2 state solution so Palestine will be free and have rights and the killing will stop, but Israel keeps blocking it in the UN

They will never stop fighting, and rightly so.

(PS Israel launched a major attack against them on Oct 6, that's why they did Oct 7).

You have correctly identified Turkey as the greatest threat to Israel in the 22nd century. Iran however is far too incompetent to do much more than resist ground incursion. In the meantime there's a lot of space between them.
As regards Turkey:

conventional conflict

There, you nailed it yourself.

You do it because you don't want to feel like you are stuck in a real and very dangerous situation and you can do nothing. You're scared and you do positivity about it.

But once you put the positivity down and accept your situation and assess your strengths, flaws, your mind will then start coming up with good solutions for what you can do, what will make you safer.

I wish I had this mindset earlier on.

They likely thought they could get away with doing horrible things and playing victim... but they failed to realize they did this to a country full of people with centuries of experience in doing horrible things while playing the victim.

They thought the American people would rise up against the media when the truth was made clear. Unfortunately they were wrong.

Israel lost the PR war

PR is just a tool, it's not the real war, it's not the political objective. It's just something that helps facilitate achieving real objectives in real war.

The PR damage will fade with time, and it hasn't stopped Israel or saved any Gazan's.

Iran least antisemitic

wtf what now???

10k drones and the IDF is reduced to shambles. Why nobody gives Hamas drones instead of kalashnikovs ?

Violently resisting occupation is both morally permissible and legal under international law. That's not really the point though.

They will never stop fighting

They will when there are none left to fight.

What's the plan lashing out from a position of abject weakness? If it's just to drench Israel with their blood to make them look bad, mission accomplished I guess.

For now, maybe. Give it a few years and people will forget. Become distracted by some mundane shit, subjected to some more organized disinformation, focused on some other orchestrated outrage. Maybe you are just too young and stupid to appreciate that. Mention Iraq and the "weapons of mass destruction" and see how many people know what you are talking about.
Besides if you are white British it barely matters anyway, your collective voice will become even more insignificant in the years to come, soon the majority of your country will hate Israel whatever the fuck it does, so it may as well do whatever best suits them, even if that means systematic genocide.

They are fucking retarded. Do you really need more explanation than that? They're dumbfuck brownoids that think their discount Yahweh will give them 52 virgins if they get popped by an Israeli. Literal zerg swarm.

Mossad did Oct 7

The PR copers don't seem to realize that most people that weren't pro-Israel already had 100% contempt for Israel before this. Seeing 1, 10, 100, 1000, etc dead babies on TikTok can't make you hate Israel anymore if you're already at 100%.

If anything, this whole experience has been rather desensitizing. I just keep scrolling when I see Gaza gore porn on my feed now. Seen plenty already, I don't need to see anymore.

I don't understand Hamas' plan with Oct 7 when they gave Israel the pretext to final solution them

That's the whole point of Israel funding Hamas. They want to genocide the Palestinians.

Hamas is funded by Iran who not only told them to do it, planned it for them

the muslims wanted a religious war, a religious war has very simple rules that allow wiping them out using very straight forward means

That's the most sensible explanation for all this.

Sucks for Arab's that they're utterly incapable of creating any organization that Mossad can't penetrate. Seems like the highest aspiration for Arab's is to get into a position where Mossad will offer you a life changing bribe.

The fall of Syria is such a joke. Barely a shot fired, not a single position defended, all they had to do was bribe all of Assad's loyal hand picked generals to stand down. Easy peasy.

Yet Hamas was fighting in Syria to topple Assad, and Gazan's were celebrating when he fell. Pretty retarded stuff seeing as that was Iran's ally, and Syria was an important corridor for Iran to support Hezbollah in Lebanon.

But I guess Hamas is Sunni, and Iran and Hezbollah are Sheite, and Assad was whatever the fuck.

No matter what Jews do, Muslims won't let a common enemy distract them from their sectarian conflicts.

It was a set-up. It was likely set up by Israel, especially considering that all transponders that would have detected the attack early had been turned off. They used the same technique to destroy the Iraqi's nuclear reactor in 81. They also ignored signal intelligence that was fairly blatantly obvious that an attack was being planned.

thejc.com/opinion/analysis/did-israeli-intelligence-fail-to-spot-an-obvious-mobile-phone-signal-about-the-october-7-invasion-m25s4bsc

Plus, the firing of Gallant is highly suspicious, especially the third aspect as presented below:

Benjamin Netanyahu fired Yoav Gallant, Israel's Defense Minister, in November 2024 for several key reasons, including:

Disagreements over the war in Gaza and hostage deal: Netanyahu claimed a "crisis of trust" with Gallant, citing disagreements on the handling of the Gaza war and potential hostage deals. Gallant had expressed increasing concerns about the feasibility of Netanyahu's "total victory" approach and advocated for prioritizing the release of hostages, even through "painful concessions".
Disagreements over conscription of Ultra-Orthodox Jews: Gallant strongly opposed legislation that would exempt Ultra-Orthodox men from military service, a position that put him at odds with some of Netanyahu's key coalition partners. This issue was crucial for the stability of Netanyahu's government, which needed the support of the Ultra-Orthodox parties.
Gallant's call for an investigation into the October 7th failures: Gallant advocated for a state commission of inquiry into the security failures that allowed the Hamas attack on October 7th, 2023, to occur. Netanyahu has resisted such an investigation, likely because it could potentially implicate him directly in the failures.

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I just think Netenyahu is evil and planned the entire war in Gaza to stay in power. I also think he planned the attack as well. It was too well-coordinated.

You're saying Israel let it happen, but that still requires Hamas to carry out the harebrained plan, which on paper had zero chance of producing positive results.

Hamas to carry out the harebrained plan, which on paper had zero chance of producing positive results.

Yes. I believe Israel uses double-agents, and has Hamas on their payroll to fulfill such needs.

timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

From a more zoomed-out perspective, there is a satanic element to all of this in that, the people killed at the festival may have been seen as lesser Israelis who could be sacrificed if it meant to rid Gaza of Palestinians once and for all.

It's sick.

Makes sense. Sacrificing some drug-addicted, rave-going thots for the cause isn't a big loss.

Wasn't there a directive to blow up any vehicle headed to Gaza, regardless of whether they were carrying hostages? Hannibal directive or something?

Dune coons have a long, storied history of engaging in, and eventually winning, protracted guerilla wars.

What are some of their best wins? I'm mostly familiar with their track record of being horribly incompetent at any kind of modern combined arms war.

Wasn't there a directive to blow up any vehicle headed to Gaza, regardless of whether they were carrying hostages? Hannibal directive or something?

I believe so.

aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/28/what-has-the-report-into-israeli-military-failures-on-october-7-said

Anyone else saying that the Israelis are completely innocent is brainwashed, or just deliberately playing stupid to do something seriously evil.

From a more zoomed-out perspective, there is a satanic element to all of this in that, the people killed at the festival may have been seen as lesser Israelis who could be sacrificed if it meant to rid Gaza of Palestinians once and for all.

It's sick.

Yes. This isn't the first time they've done this. It's a common playbook.

It's just more sacrifices to Moloch. If they are willing to burn their own children alive as a sacrifice, what will they not do?

Jews and Arabs are Canaanites.

Judaism and the Jewish Talmud is Canaanite and Babylonian child burning religious doctrine. It’s exactly the opposite of the Torah (the Christian Old Testament).

6000 years ago, God commanded the Israelites to genocide the Canaanites because of their Moloch worshipping child sacrifice religion. He didn’t want it infecting the Israelites. They didn’t do that and now we have Judaism and child raping Moloch worshippers.

Talmudic Judaism is literally a rejection of Jesus. They based their entire religion and society around their seething hatred of the Son of God.

Judaism came after Christianity. Technically Muslims and Jews are Christian heretics that use some goofball logic to claim they came first

The PR damage will fade with time

The things the 21+pbtid schlomo tells himself. Even satanyahu caved at the fact that starving babies on everyones phones hurts the image of his cause

"… but we can’t be receiving pictures of famine [in Gaza],” Netanyahu says in a video released on his personal Telegram channel.

timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-had-to-resume-gaza-aid-before-famine-concerns-hit-red-line-netanyahu-says/

He says this after an untold amount of palestinians have already died, and as more continue to die, of course.

Don't confuse our governments being slave dogs to Israel to mean the people of these countries support what they do. The biggest normalfags imaginable are all anti-Israel. The US LITERALLY has to push forward laws to ensure people like Jews. This is the point we're at.

Correct. Israel has it's hooks into the Elites that run the governments, but the people are full blown Noticing. Just look at Twitter to see the full depths of the Israel hate.

They see the truth about the Synagogue of Satan.

The jews have always funded or practiced terrorism.

It’s exactly the opposite of the Torah (the Christian Old Testament).

The Jewish holiday of Passover (celebrating YHWH genociding the first born of every Egyptian, and "Passing over" Jewish households) is from the Torah.
Jesus himself celebrated Passover.

you don't understand because you're a sheltered faggot wth made up problems, numbers mean shit when you have nothing to lose.

Shit was rigged to the max.

I wish all jews are good TKD.

i remember a gazan saying exactly this. "we knew it was only a matter of time, if we didn't do something that day"

who knows the truth...

I forget all the details, but at the time Saudi Arabia and some other Muslim countries were about to completely abandon Gaza politically, so the attack was done to galvanize the rest of the Islamic world, giving them at least a chance of survival.

Nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Imagine waking up in that bombed out shithole, not having breakfast, and by the end of the day you're in heaven with a VIP martyr pass, chilling with Allah, 40 virgins stroking your hairless pre-pubescent chest as promised.

I was thinking Israel baited Hamas so they could kill them, but maybe Hamas baited Israel so they could be killed.

I don't know who is jewing who anymore.

Shit was rigged to the max.

Israel wants that beach front property that is Gaza, so they need to genocide the Palestinians. The only way that happens is if they have a reason to kill them all.

They need them to be terrorists so they can be killed. Hamas is funded by Israel and by the US through USAID. This would not have happened without the kikes approving it.

globaldisconnect.substack.com/p/usaid-gifted-a-cement-factory-to

israelnationalnews.com/news/403738

hotair.com/david-strom/2025/02/07/usaid-helped-fund-hamas-tunnel-system-n3799587

freebeacon.com/national-security/u-s-taxpayers-sent-more-than-400-million-to-gaza-since-hamas-takeover/

Hamas is MOSSAD

Bro the k:d is like 500:1 in Israel's favor

500:1

when most of those killed are women and children

Now list the k/d of actual militants vs israel diaper forces

Bro the k:d is like 500:1 in Israel's favor

The casualties are almost all Palestinian civilians. Which is what Israel wants.

Palestine territory has been slowly taken by Israel since 1946. They want that beach front strip of valuable land.

Israel will be pissed if Trump claims Gaza as a US protectorate and gets the Arabs to rebuild it.

split up the land up with dogshit nonsensical borders

give half the land to jews despite being a fraction of the population

All part of the apartheid plan