All religions are wrong, Atheism won

be atheists

don't breed

evolution selects for religious people (who breed)

oops

some magical reason

Most civilized people call it science but I guess the whole point of religion is to pretend like it's magic done by some all powerful wizard

>don't breed

We do lol

>be atheists

>don't breed

american education

paco you are describing the effect i am talking about the cause

and he ate locusts

didn't make it :(

my existence

merciful

Lol, lmao even.

Atheism is a philosophical dead end that societies and nations cant be built on. Its also cant explain jack. You have to pretend the universe pop into existence from nothing.

Last time i looked Christcucks were the ones crying about women because they can’t get any pussy.

Americans are whiter and smarter than you, lispy faggot. FUCK SPICS.

Yeah, go congratulate yourselves by stroking each other's fedoras. Another victory for the incel religion.

Its also cant explain jack

Doesn't claim to. It's just a lack of belief in God or gods

Bigger creator

You have to pretend the universe pop into existence from nothing

Has nothing to do with atheism

Yes yes the cause is a wizard who is all knowing and everything is going according to his plan including the existence of atheism for some reason

The fact of the matter is if there is a God, it's not that Jewish faggot from the Bible

doesn't that definition make everyone an atheist?

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herbs and spices underage anon

you clicked it

welcome back Prodigal Son

And how the world was created? You aren’t really atheist, you are a bing bang evolution cultist

If we really drill down, yes. A Christian would be an atheist to Zues or Odin as an example

Poetic justice one might say. Here’s a haiku for you:

Creation begets,
an absence within a void,
a Son has a Dad.

Explain what exactly? Why do you need to know the origin of the universe? What difference is it going to make for you? Why is it necessary for preserving some sort of universal order?

but le atheist nations are bound to fail

False. Both East and West Roman Empire fell since they were retarded Christcucks. Funny thing is the moment Western Roman Empire made Christkikery it’s state religion it started to decline rapidly and then went into strep decline because they became spiritually way too weak. The modern kikery through Marxist doctrine basically operates on the same parallels. Christkikery was the proto-Bolshevik communism for thag reason which was perfected during the Bolshevik revolution.

Yeah can you imagine how stupid he is for believing Earth was created from parts of the Sun 4 billion years ago? We all know what really happened was the world was created 6000 years ago and the grand wizard just made it APPEAR 4 billion years old to confuse us and test our faith

Maybe men should stop making up shit and admit they haven't got a clue what happened.

US Secularism the rise from 1990-2024

US birth rates on the decline from 1990-2023, down 14%

Religion: two genders, childmaxx, stewards of the earth, eradicate evil

Secularism: infinite genders, don't childmaxx just party n shit, must reduce human population by 600% or were all gonna die in negative twenty years, there's nothing wrong with minor-attracted persons

You're the exception to the rule, congratulations. You're just the anon equivalent of some dumb whore on Whatever podcast who defies all generalities but doesn't understand that their niche preference is not backed up by evolutionary biology and their are acting out in resistance to something they do not fully understand.

It's not like you got yourself out of the Bronze age by just being born you fucking retard. I'd wager that you take for granted most of the thing you effortlessly use, irrespective of the people who died for you to even exist.

Agreed

You're the exception to the rule, congratulations

Thanks :^)

Have a good day!

But is it really a reach ro suggest that perhaps creation has a creator? Take religion out of it and think about this on a strictly logical line of thinking. Is it really unreasonable to suggest that there is an architect for what appears to be engineered self replicating biology?

But is it really a reach ro suggest that perhaps creation has a creator?

Extraordinary claims required Extraordinary proof

strictly logical line of thinking

Such as?

Is it really unreasonable to suggest that there is an architect for what appears to be engineered self replicating biology?

Yes, the reasonable thing to say is I don't know what started it all

Logically nothing could have been created it was always there.

All religions are a satanic cult for reality deniers.

Listen to me you nigger faggot kike. The population is on decline for multiple factors. First of all, the populations boomed after WW2 because millions died in the war, nitrogen based fertilizers significantly increased the cultivation process and there were revolutionary advances in medicine like the invention of penicillin. Second of all, the population everywhere started to boom rapidly which caused the competition to grow. Once the competition for a prosperous life became harder to attain the populations started to decline. As for the last factor, Jews had infiltrated the western institutions, media, banks and the government positions. This one of the most significant reasons white demographic is being replaced. Population decline is happening everywhere but the west is also facing an aggressive mass migration problem from literally every part of the world because they have shit lives and western economies have more opportunities and better lifestyles. Jews use these idiots to lure them in so they can keep their stats quo in tact while diving the native western demographics. Funny thing is the biggest supporters of mass immigration are the Christkeks not atheists/secularists.

The prime mover argument is a classic logical argument when dealing with what I’m speaking on. The cycle of birth, life, death, and rebirth is a pattern which is prevalent all throughout creation. What set this cycle in motion, I have a word for it but the concept is not something that is adequately summarized with words.

The prime mover argument is a classic logical argument

It's a shitty presupposition where you can replace "prime mover" or "God" with universe and nothing chnages

You have 0 proof that He doesn't exist. Gottem.

Done

I have to be intellectually honest and admit it is a presupposition and ultimately a viewpoint that one has, to some degree, accept on faith.

I appreciate your honesty

All religions are wrong

Shows only 3

They'd still be theists and thus never atheists.

universe created itself

They'd still be theists and thus never atheists

Excelt to the gods they don't believe in for the same reason I'm atheist to theirs

>universe created itself

Why not?

It's not anyone's job to crybully you into believing in Him.

Maybe Atheism suits you better.

What made the big bang, bang?

You have 0 proof that god exists

oh noooo that sux!
I concede defeat.
I'm still gonna beat my 4 year old girl-wife into wearing her burka outside the house

I see God right fucking now you filthy heretic, maybe if you left your basement you'd realize that a trait spread evenly across our entire species must be beneficial. And joining a self-mutilation antisocial cult isnt a replacement.

Praise SOL, the one true God.

>>universe created itself

Why not?

Or why can't the universe be eternal?

Population decline has cohencidentally occurred as liberalism and feminism have been on the rise. I denounce the Talmud, all kikes will burn in Hell for eternity, state of Israel should not exist. You're also a meme flag so probably a larp.

Special pleading.
I'd call you out for resorting to insults, but OP started it, so...

You're both wrong. Christians aren't theists or atheist. They're faggots.

theist assumes no atheist has ever read the bible.

That’s a difficult concept for the human mind to conceptualize, when all the data we take in regarding this existence appears finite or with a concrete beginning and end. Same thing with a Creator. Incredibly difficult concept to parse. How can something be eternal and un-beget?

Population decline has cohencidentally occurred as liberalism and feminism have been on the rise.

Drawing a direct causal link between these trends is an oversimplification

Fertility rates have been decreasing across the globe since the mid-20th century, a phenomenon known as the demographic transition.

As countries become more developed, the cost of raising children increases, and parents tend to invest more in fewer children

With improved healthcare and sanitation, fewer children die in infancy, reducing the need for parents to have more children to ensure some survive

To name a few examples

Kek

That’s a difficult concept for the human mind to conceptualize

Yeah, it's way easier to say God did it. Essentially God of the gaps

How can something be eternal and un-beget?

Exactly

lol virgin pajeet seething is so easy to spot

definitely

You keep using that word...

Oh, and by the way,

1pbtid

You religibois eat the bait every damn time.

you are saying that God is atemporal then how come praying now is a waste are you dumb or smth

you must be portuguese

Like where in nature can we examine eternity in order to build a framework of understanding such a thing? It’s not easy to come to an understanding of a topic unless the brain has recognized a pattern. It is one of our flaws as humans. We need data to build a model, no model can be built without adequate data for us.

It's a nice word. I use the best words.

Perfectly cromulent word.

Same thing goes for every mythical creature. If something is unfalsifiable and offers no proof for its existence, like magic fairies and the Christian god, it's not out of line to say it doesn't exist.

I have no animus towards religious people, especially Christians. The entire rest of my family is Christian. But I’m resolute in my belief that the objective of religion is to assuage one’s fear of death and nothing more. The only biological imperative that can not be fulfilled without incorporating “magic” into one’s model of reality.

TLDR Grug not want die. But Grug smart, Grug know Grug die. So Grug tell story of death be fake. Grug calm now, Grug happy. Grug not fear anymore.

Not really. There is nothing about liberalism or feminism that incentivizes or prioritizes adults having children, nuclear families, or child birth. There is nothing about incentiziving divorce, promoting abortion, increasing gibs, tearing children away from their fathers that points to liberalism or feminism not having a direct effect on declining populations.

Blaming developing countries is quite odd. Wouldn't it be arguable that a developed nation has taken a secular humanist philosophy, since the overarching goal is to reduce poverty, child deaths, increase the population's health outcomes, afford more or better leisure time, and so on? Or is the goal of a developed nation to push its entire population into lifelong slavery, which also implies negative long term health outcomes?

Costs for childcare rise since both parents are forced to work to "support" their family and do not automatically qualify for state sponsored daycare services under the guise of the American education system. Which gender, again, was pushed to go out into the workforce and forego having a family because of all the opportunities for activies? Shouldn't wages rise in alignment with costs of life, especially considering that a developed country implies that there is an excess of wealth, generally speaking? Can you point out developed nations that have continually kept their populace poor throughout the ENTIRE "developing" process and is currently keeping their populace intentionally poor (wealth, health outcomes, etc, metrics you pointed out), not nations which are exploiting their population after the fact; meaning that a country went from poverty to developed, by whatever metric you're using, and during the entire course of development into modernity, the country's population was consistently poor, had low access to food and healthcare, was forced to have families with multiple children, and so on?

Not really.

Yeah really

ignores all scientific data

Every time.

You can't point out a country that kept their citizens in poverty with poor health outcomes, low sanitation standards, early childhood deaths, that maintained those negative standards and yet magically turned into a developed country. The only country in the world that could be argued is India, but India is fucking far from developed, and they have about 40x the number of citizens renouncing their citizenship per year compared to the US, and plenty of Indians are abandoning their shit hole and invading other countries.

What data exactly?

You can't point out a country that kept their citizens in poverty with poor health outcomes, low sanitation standards, early childhood deaths, that maintained those negative standards and yet magically turned into a developed country

Why would I need to?

I simply can not stress this enough to you OP: Jesus is Lord

Jesus is Lorde

My parents meeting was the worst thing for everyone involved. Definitely no god exists.

St Paul "knew all the facts" and he still investigated and hunted Christians before Jesus converted him. Dont lean on your own understanding, lean on God. He loves you and protects you and it is never too late

I'm curious what nation went from underdeveloped to developed, and also did not improve the quality of life in the majority of metrics you used earlier.

what nation went from underdeveloped to developed, and also did not improve the quality of life

Quality of life is potentially subjective. One can point to South Africa or China.

There is zero proof gender can be changed

You don't believe retarded shit so you must be a tranny

Well metrics like childhood deaths, sanitation, access to clean water, food abundance, access to mass public transportation and/or developed roadways, and so on aren't really subjective. As far as SA, I doubt highly that country will remain developed.

Turn your brain off and just believe everything we say.

Lol, ok. Then I'll help out this Nigerian prince who sent me an email.

Stupid point because any other combination of mate pairs could have, but didn’t happen. Say that to all the, idk, souls floating around in the ether who could not come into existence because one particular man never met and fucked one particular woman. A “merciful god” that shuns several billion other potential people in favor of OP?

Islam won, gaytheists will go extinct

inbred cousin-fuckers will rule the earth!

Lol. Lmao.

Well metrics like childhood deaths, sanitation, access to clean water, food abundance, access to mass public transportation and/or developed roadways, and so on aren't really subjective

And even in China and South Africa, the quality of life is shit.

As far as SA, I doubt highly that country will remain developed

That's what happens when you kill all the Whites

rely on your brain alone and see how far it gets you. rely on God and you can use your brain for good. God gave you a brain for a reason, not to shut it off

You can't confer to a creation the same abilities of the creator, the universe itself is not "intelligent" the matter alone is not able to create anything and is clearly not eternal because even the atom lose energy with time.
It is perfectly logic to assume that there is a creator when we see a creation and this is what you usually do in your life or do you think that the house in which you live is a product of a casual group of bricks that the wind casually brought?

Atheists have no answer for the transcendental argument for God. Crackers in the pantry fallacy doesn’t work, faggot. You can’t ground knowledge claims and you have no epistemic justification for the existence of logic or sense data. Seethe harder

the universe itself is not "intelligent"

How do you know?

It is perfectly logic to assume that there is a creator.

Why not creators? Why only one?

or do you think that the house in which you live is a product of a casual group of bricks that the wind casually brought?

Well I can build a house. I can watch people build a house. I can talk to those who've built a house. Can't do that with this supposed "creator" of yours

Theists maybe would have some ground but then again all they know about god was taught to them by men. All mass organized religion is for sub 100 IQ subhumans.

It's a presupposition where you can replace God with universe and nothing changes

Theists maybe would have some ground but then again all they know about god was taught to them by men

Exactly.

My brain works fine so far. Everything else you said is just empty words.

Wrong. It’s an entire world claim that only works for the Orthodox Christian triune God. It’s not just replace god with x, it doesn’t work.

You’re showing your monkey brain, dipshits. Atheists can’t follow a single metaphysical and philosophical argument kek

so far

try out your theory and see for yourself, God will love and protect you regardless, Prodigal Son

More empty words.

Wrong.

Nope. Nor can it demonstrate why God and not Gods. Or which God and why

It’s an entire world claim that only works for the Orthodox Christian triune God

Kek your bias is showing.

Grow up kid

If someone can get converted in 5 minutes or less, they aren't mentally stable and in 5 more minutes they will find something new to coo and awe at.
My deconversion took decades and it was not a fun time. That's what YHWH worshipping wretches like you will never understand. In before you say all this pain was self inflicted and that it will go away once i bend the knee to your demon.

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You fucking faggota deserve the shit quality of this board due to you fucking faggots having the critical thinking, and impulse control akin to a fucking NIGGER.

Fuck all of you faggots. You deserve your suffering. I hope you get raped by a pack of fucking feral niggers.

How do you know?

Because in the universe I see planets that simply rotate because an external force intervened, I see stars that explode when run out their fuel, I don't see something that is "created" by the universe.

why only one

Because everything is created by another thing with greater ability because nobody can create something beyond his ability, so universe is been created by something greater than the universe and, to avoid the "regressus in infinitum", the ultimate creator must be eternal, infinite and almighty thus is impossibile the existence of two "creators"

I can watch people building an house

That's not the point of my example, ok I'll change it: think about a thief that stole in your house, nobody see him, nobody hear him and there is no camera that recorded the theft, you have no proof of the theft but you can logically assume that someone entered in the house or you think that the casual force of wind took your goods away?

Because in the universe I see

I see

End of discussion