All religions are wrong, Atheism won

B-but r-reddit tranny neckbeard!

You have 0 proof that god exists, seethe harder

A merciful creator must exist or your parents would never have met.

There is definitely a "creator" in the sense that this was all "created" by something for some reason, but yeah all major religious are ultimately just extentions of state control and not serious about figuring out what this all actually is.

what created the creator?

Thats Deism

There is no creator. Your argument only works for

If there is a creator then it must be merciful because atheists exist

you wont last 5 minutes of listening to this without converting

if you dont click you are scared

Isaiah 41:10

youtube.com/watch?v=Kt4rWLVAW5g

I find it insane athestic niggers come to this conclusion after a lifetime observing the fact that chaos will always turn into order for some magical reason

God is the begining and the end, praying to him inbetween is a waste of time, he isn't there.

The universe is the begining and the end

Works the same way

be atheists

don't breed

evolution selects for religious people (who breed)

oops

some magical reason

Most civilized people call it science but I guess the whole point of religion is to pretend like it's magic done by some all powerful wizard

>don't breed

We do lol

>be atheists

>don't breed

american education

paco you are describing the effect i am talking about the cause

and he ate locusts

didn't make it :(

my existence

merciful

Lol, lmao even.

Atheism is a philosophical dead end that societies and nations cant be built on. Its also cant explain jack. You have to pretend the universe pop into existence from nothing.

Last time i looked Christcucks were the ones crying about women because they can’t get any pussy.

Americans are whiter and smarter than you, lispy faggot. FUCK SPICS.

Yeah, go congratulate yourselves by stroking each other's fedoras. Another victory for the incel religion.

Its also cant explain jack

Doesn't claim to. It's just a lack of belief in God or gods

Bigger creator

You have to pretend the universe pop into existence from nothing

Has nothing to do with atheism

Yes yes the cause is a wizard who is all knowing and everything is going according to his plan including the existence of atheism for some reason

The fact of the matter is if there is a God, it's not that Jewish faggot from the Bible

doesn't that definition make everyone an atheist?

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1 cope by this id.

herbs and spices underage anon

you clicked it

welcome back Prodigal Son

And how the world was created? You aren’t really atheist, you are a bing bang evolution cultist

If we really drill down, yes. A Christian would be an atheist to Zues or Odin as an example

Poetic justice one might say. Here’s a haiku for you:

Creation begets,
an absence within a void,
a Son has a Dad.

Explain what exactly? Why do you need to know the origin of the universe? What difference is it going to make for you? Why is it necessary for preserving some sort of universal order?

but le atheist nations are bound to fail

False. Both East and West Roman Empire fell since they were retarded Christcucks. Funny thing is the moment Western Roman Empire made Christkikery it’s state religion it started to decline rapidly and then went into strep decline because they became spiritually way too weak. The modern kikery through Marxist doctrine basically operates on the same parallels. Christkikery was the proto-Bolshevik communism for thag reason which was perfected during the Bolshevik revolution.

Yeah can you imagine how stupid he is for believing Earth was created from parts of the Sun 4 billion years ago? We all know what really happened was the world was created 6000 years ago and the grand wizard just made it APPEAR 4 billion years old to confuse us and test our faith

Maybe men should stop making up shit and admit they haven't got a clue what happened.

US Secularism the rise from 1990-2024

US birth rates on the decline from 1990-2023, down 14%

Religion: two genders, childmaxx, stewards of the earth, eradicate evil

Secularism: infinite genders, don't childmaxx just party n shit, must reduce human population by 600% or were all gonna die in negative twenty years, there's nothing wrong with minor-attracted persons

You're the exception to the rule, congratulations. You're just the anon equivalent of some dumb whore on Whatever podcast who defies all generalities but doesn't understand that their niche preference is not backed up by evolutionary biology and their are acting out in resistance to something they do not fully understand.

It's not like you got yourself out of the Bronze age by just being born you fucking retard. I'd wager that you take for granted most of the thing you effortlessly use, irrespective of the people who died for you to even exist.

Agreed

You're the exception to the rule, congratulations

Thanks :^)

Have a good day!

But is it really a reach ro suggest that perhaps creation has a creator? Take religion out of it and think about this on a strictly logical line of thinking. Is it really unreasonable to suggest that there is an architect for what appears to be engineered self replicating biology?

But is it really a reach ro suggest that perhaps creation has a creator?

Extraordinary claims required Extraordinary proof

strictly logical line of thinking

Such as?

Is it really unreasonable to suggest that there is an architect for what appears to be engineered self replicating biology?

Yes, the reasonable thing to say is I don't know what started it all

Logically nothing could have been created it was always there.

All religions are a satanic cult for reality deniers.

Listen to me you nigger faggot kike. The population is on decline for multiple factors. First of all, the populations boomed after WW2 because millions died in the war, nitrogen based fertilizers significantly increased the cultivation process and there were revolutionary advances in medicine like the invention of penicillin. Second of all, the population everywhere started to boom rapidly which caused the competition to grow. Once the competition for a prosperous life became harder to attain the populations started to decline. As for the last factor, Jews had infiltrated the western institutions, media, banks and the government positions. This one of the most significant reasons white demographic is being replaced. Population decline is happening everywhere but the west is also facing an aggressive mass migration problem from literally every part of the world because they have shit lives and western economies have more opportunities and better lifestyles. Jews use these idiots to lure them in so they can keep their stats quo in tact while diving the native western demographics. Funny thing is the biggest supporters of mass immigration are the Christkeks not atheists/secularists.

The prime mover argument is a classic logical argument when dealing with what I’m speaking on. The cycle of birth, life, death, and rebirth is a pattern which is prevalent all throughout creation. What set this cycle in motion, I have a word for it but the concept is not something that is adequately summarized with words.

The prime mover argument is a classic logical argument

It's a shitty presupposition where you can replace "prime mover" or "God" with universe and nothing chnages

You have 0 proof that He doesn't exist. Gottem.

Done

I have to be intellectually honest and admit it is a presupposition and ultimately a viewpoint that one has, to some degree, accept on faith.

I appreciate your honesty

All religions are wrong

Shows only 3

They'd still be theists and thus never atheists.

universe created itself

They'd still be theists and thus never atheists

Excelt to the gods they don't believe in for the same reason I'm atheist to theirs

>universe created itself

Why not?

It's not anyone's job to crybully you into believing in Him.

Maybe Atheism suits you better.

What made the big bang, bang?

You have 0 proof that god exists

oh noooo that sux!
I concede defeat.
I'm still gonna beat my 4 year old girl-wife into wearing her burka outside the house

I see God right fucking now you filthy heretic, maybe if you left your basement you'd realize that a trait spread evenly across our entire species must be beneficial. And joining a self-mutilation antisocial cult isnt a replacement.

Praise SOL, the one true God.

>>universe created itself

Why not?

Or why can't the universe be eternal?

Population decline has cohencidentally occurred as liberalism and feminism have been on the rise. I denounce the Talmud, all kikes will burn in Hell for eternity, state of Israel should not exist. You're also a meme flag so probably a larp.

Special pleading.
I'd call you out for resorting to insults, but OP started it, so...

You're both wrong. Christians aren't theists or atheist. They're faggots.

theist assumes no atheist has ever read the bible.

That’s a difficult concept for the human mind to conceptualize, when all the data we take in regarding this existence appears finite or with a concrete beginning and end. Same thing with a Creator. Incredibly difficult concept to parse. How can something be eternal and un-beget?

Population decline has cohencidentally occurred as liberalism and feminism have been on the rise.

Drawing a direct causal link between these trends is an oversimplification

Fertility rates have been decreasing across the globe since the mid-20th century, a phenomenon known as the demographic transition.

As countries become more developed, the cost of raising children increases, and parents tend to invest more in fewer children

With improved healthcare and sanitation, fewer children die in infancy, reducing the need for parents to have more children to ensure some survive

To name a few examples

Kek

That’s a difficult concept for the human mind to conceptualize

Yeah, it's way easier to say God did it. Essentially God of the gaps

How can something be eternal and un-beget?

Exactly

lol virgin pajeet seething is so easy to spot

definitely

You keep using that word...

Oh, and by the way,

1pbtid

You religibois eat the bait every damn time.

you are saying that God is atemporal then how come praying now is a waste are you dumb or smth

you must be portuguese

Like where in nature can we examine eternity in order to build a framework of understanding such a thing? It’s not easy to come to an understanding of a topic unless the brain has recognized a pattern. It is one of our flaws as humans. We need data to build a model, no model can be built without adequate data for us.

It's a nice word. I use the best words.

Perfectly cromulent word.

Same thing goes for every mythical creature. If something is unfalsifiable and offers no proof for its existence, like magic fairies and the Christian god, it's not out of line to say it doesn't exist.

I have no animus towards religious people, especially Christians. The entire rest of my family is Christian. But I’m resolute in my belief that the objective of religion is to assuage one’s fear of death and nothing more. The only biological imperative that can not be fulfilled without incorporating “magic” into one’s model of reality.

TLDR Grug not want die. But Grug smart, Grug know Grug die. So Grug tell story of death be fake. Grug calm now, Grug happy. Grug not fear anymore.

Not really. There is nothing about liberalism or feminism that incentivizes or prioritizes adults having children, nuclear families, or child birth. There is nothing about incentiziving divorce, promoting abortion, increasing gibs, tearing children away from their fathers that points to liberalism or feminism not having a direct effect on declining populations.

Blaming developing countries is quite odd. Wouldn't it be arguable that a developed nation has taken a secular humanist philosophy, since the overarching goal is to reduce poverty, child deaths, increase the population's health outcomes, afford more or better leisure time, and so on? Or is the goal of a developed nation to push its entire population into lifelong slavery, which also implies negative long term health outcomes?

Costs for childcare rise since both parents are forced to work to "support" their family and do not automatically qualify for state sponsored daycare services under the guise of the American education system. Which gender, again, was pushed to go out into the workforce and forego having a family because of all the opportunities for activies? Shouldn't wages rise in alignment with costs of life, especially considering that a developed country implies that there is an excess of wealth, generally speaking? Can you point out developed nations that have continually kept their populace poor throughout the ENTIRE "developing" process and is currently keeping their populace intentionally poor (wealth, health outcomes, etc, metrics you pointed out), not nations which are exploiting their population after the fact; meaning that a country went from poverty to developed, by whatever metric you're using, and during the entire course of development into modernity, the country's population was consistently poor, had low access to food and healthcare, was forced to have families with multiple children, and so on?

Not really.

Yeah really

ignores all scientific data

Every time.

You can't point out a country that kept their citizens in poverty with poor health outcomes, low sanitation standards, early childhood deaths, that maintained those negative standards and yet magically turned into a developed country. The only country in the world that could be argued is India, but India is fucking far from developed, and they have about 40x the number of citizens renouncing their citizenship per year compared to the US, and plenty of Indians are abandoning their shit hole and invading other countries.

What data exactly?

Turn your brain off and just believe everything we say.

Lol, ok. Then I'll help out this Nigerian prince who sent me an email.

Stupid point because any other combination of mate pairs could have, but didn’t happen. Say that to all the, idk, souls floating around in the ether who could not come into existence because one particular man never met and fucked one particular woman. A “merciful god” that shuns several billion other potential people in favor of OP?

Islam won, gaytheists will go extinct

inbred cousin-fuckers will rule the earth!

Lol. Lmao.

Well metrics like childhood deaths, sanitation, access to clean water, food abundance, access to mass public transportation and/or developed roadways, and so on aren't really subjective

And even in China and South Africa, the quality of life is shit.

As far as SA, I doubt highly that country will remain developed

That's what happens when you kill all the Whites

rely on your brain alone and see how far it gets you. rely on God and you can use your brain for good. God gave you a brain for a reason, not to shut it off

You can't confer to a creation the same abilities of the creator, the universe itself is not "intelligent" the matter alone is not able to create anything and is clearly not eternal because even the atom lose energy with time.
It is perfectly logic to assume that there is a creator when we see a creation and this is what you usually do in your life or do you think that the house in which you live is a product of a casual group of bricks that the wind casually brought?

Atheists have no answer for the transcendental argument for God. Crackers in the pantry fallacy doesn’t work, faggot. You can’t ground knowledge claims and you have no epistemic justification for the existence of logic or sense data. Seethe harder

the universe itself is not "intelligent"

How do you know?

It is perfectly logic to assume that there is a creator.

Why not creators? Why only one?

or do you think that the house in which you live is a product of a casual group of bricks that the wind casually brought?

Well I can build a house. I can watch people build a house. I can talk to those who've built a house. Can't do that with this supposed "creator" of yours

Theists maybe would have some ground but then again all they know about god was taught to them by men. All mass organized religion is for sub 100 IQ subhumans.

It's a presupposition where you can replace God with universe and nothing changes

Theists maybe would have some ground but then again all they know about god was taught to them by men

Exactly.

My brain works fine so far. Everything else you said is just empty words.

Wrong. It’s an entire world claim that only works for the Orthodox Christian triune God. It’s not just replace god with x, it doesn’t work.

You’re showing your monkey brain, dipshits. Atheists can’t follow a single metaphysical and philosophical argument kek

so far

try out your theory and see for yourself, God will love and protect you regardless, Prodigal Son

More empty words.

Wrong.

Nope. Nor can it demonstrate why God and not Gods. Or which God and why

It’s an entire world claim that only works for the Orthodox Christian triune God

Kek your bias is showing.

Grow up kid

If someone can get converted in 5 minutes or less, they aren't mentally stable and in 5 more minutes they will find something new to coo and awe at.
My deconversion took decades and it was not a fun time. That's what YHWH worshipping wretches like you will never understand. In before you say all this pain was self inflicted and that it will go away once i bend the knee to your demon.

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Zero herbs

You fucking faggota deserve the shit quality of this board due to you fucking faggots having the critical thinking, and impulse control akin to a fucking NIGGER.

Fuck all of you faggots. You deserve your suffering. I hope you get raped by a pack of fucking feral niggers.

How do you know?

Because in the universe I see planets that simply rotate because an external force intervened, I see stars that explode when run out their fuel, I don't see something that is "created" by the universe.

why only one

Because everything is created by another thing with greater ability because nobody can create something beyond his ability, so universe is been created by something greater than the universe and, to avoid the "regressus in infinitum", the ultimate creator must be eternal, infinite and almighty thus is impossibile the existence of two "creators"

I can watch people building an house

That's not the point of my example, ok I'll change it: think about a thief that stole in your house, nobody see him, nobody hear him and there is no camera that recorded the theft, you have no proof of the theft but you can logically assume that someone entered in the house or you think that the casual force of wind took your goods away?

Because in the universe I see

I see

End of discussion

You’re a retard. Go look up someone like Dr. Beau Branson or Jay Dyer and fix your Reddit tier logical faculties.

Your argument is “how come walk outside no see god?” My argument is prior to sense data

Your argument is “how come walk outside no see god?

No, my argument is why I should belive a half baked presupposition from personal feelings that you borrowed from someone else.

Read better the post and think but I'm sure that you don't really want to reach the truth, you use this wall of doubts to mantain yourself in a state of ignorance that justify your sinful life.

Nice bait memeflaggot OP the gay

I'm sure that you don't really want to reach the truth

I'm just not convinced by your subjective interpretation of "truth" is all.

you use this wall of doubts to mantain yourself in a state of ignorance that justify your sinful life.

I've been around longer than you and have dealt with this in more depth than you can imagine

the gospel is advocating for religion

religion and God are the same thing even though and atheist will say they’ve never seen God and yet blame men in robes for the reason he doesn’t exist

It must suck being retarded. If simple belief is all you need to go to heaven, then religion is a confused projection of people being manipulated by Satan, no wonder why you hate it.

and yet blame men in robes for the reason he doesn’t exist

I've never done that lol. It just fails to meet its burden of proof

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_otiosus

I will just drop this jewel for you.

You don’t know what the burden of proof is. Double negatives must really not make sense to philosophers pretending they can verify falsivity using just philosophy.

You don’t know what the burden of proof is.

It's on the ones making a claim. You claim your favorite flavor of god is real and I lack belief that.

Atheism: “there is no god”

nuh uh it’s a lack of belief!

Right and agnostics exist why?
You’re full of shit.

>Atheism: “there is no god”

Wrong

agnostics exist

As a branch of both theism and Atheism

Atheists are incredibly cringe, and I simply do not understand why anyone talks to them. They should be ignored when they don't bother anyone, and killed when they try to influence children. That's it.

and killed when they try to influence children

Everyone is born an atheist my friend

this was all "created" by something for some reason

Or it was not. It's honest to say we don't know. It's dishonest to claim one of the many fairy tales is true. Not believing in any gods has nothing to do with any unrelated maths or science.

This anon gets it

if you dont click you are scared

Oh fuck, did you come up with that cringy-ass cope yourself?

Your presence in this thread is proof that no believer, yourself included, is willing to leave us alone.

Thanks for proving you're utterly stupid about atheism.

God is Jesus Christ. Sitting in the Third Temple.
The Jews don't let us in until they say it is right for the messiah to sit.

the transcendental argument for God.

It's an irrational rationalization fallacy. If your IQ was north of 70, you'd know that.

You can’t ground knowledge claims and you have no epistemic justification for the existence of logic or sense data.

That was blown apart by DesCartes. Apparently the foundation of our epistemology is based on what our senses perceive, and our shared reality (you don't see people under the umbrellas either, but we can both extrapolate that they are there).

All knowledge stems initially from intuitive thinking, but science is something we accept, not believe. Hypothesis is a type of irrational thinking, but we understand is it speculation and we disengage from it when the evidence isn't there.

Religion is your 24/7 delusion and it is a cognitive dissonance you refuse to acknowledge, much less break away from. The long-term strain erodes your rational mind, makes you credulous. You obviously can't tell, Dunning-Kruger and all, but everyone with an IQ over 80 is laughing at you.

even if all religions are wrong it doesnt mean that there is no god. atheism is nihilism in its core and nihilism is wrong.

atheism is nihilism

It isn't

Atheism is nihilism. Why? Because I say so!

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EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD IS A GIANT FUCKING RETARD.

it really is that easy and it is never too late

John 14:26

But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.

as Dostoevsky said, "If there is no God, everything is permitted"

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Atheists can’t follow a single metaphysical and philosophical argument

The Abrahamic religions put to death philosophers who did not put their religion at the center of all philosophy. Today, religion is the red-haired stepchild that real philosophy ignores.
Atheism is nothing more than not believing in any gods. You fell for lies and now you try to spread your lies among skeptics. How's that working out for you?

A rational philosophy that respects everyone - like Rawls Contractarianism - is far superior to any of the immoral horror stories in the holy books.

usual argument of an atheist: "yeah i dont believe in God but I believe in morality this is the higher good we should strive for"

the fact that morality and a "higher good" exist in the first place is because God made it so. the fact that being moral is in your self interest is because God made it so

Those 3 are by far the most uppity and self assured though.
At least, I've never been able to piss of a jeet on Anon Babble by saying Vishnu doesn't exist.

Your god is clearly beyond good and evil.

He killed 3 million Egyptian firstborns just so his chosen people could come out of the ghetto.

You want a magician to put a show for you with fireballs and levitation.

You have to pretend the universe pop into existence from nothing.

doesn't matter if it did or didn't, it doesn't mean your hollywood jewbook god is real
it's quite obvious that the bible is manmade, which means you're blindly following the rules of retards from thousands of years ago instead of thinking for yourself

b-but thinking bad!!

that is why you are forever enslaved by people who do think

Morality is a cultural agreement between a people on how to live their lives in an organized way that the majority of members within that circle benefit from.

Do you really think without god telling them, people would just steal and murder each other indefinitely without someone going "woah, holy shit, we can't live this way?"

he also made you and you wrote this post

we cant understand him but he is perfect and can do what he wants

"If there is no God, everything is permitted"

That demonstrably not true

You cant understand your rabbi when he tells you to troon out and turn into a transgender for the kingdom of heaven.

Are you just a troll?

he also made you and you wrote this post

Then right after says

we cant understand him

Nice contradiction

show me where Jesus says that
youtube.com/watch?v=Kt4rWLVAW5g

the fact that morality and a "higher good" exist in the first place is because God made it so

No, we made it so

he made you

I dont understand why

no contradiction

You're contradicting yourself again

A god might exist. but not the abramaic one

guy says a thing

you either believe in god or you are a nihilist there is no inbetween

For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”

you either believe in god or you are a nihilist

For you maybe

retarded meme

Agnostic is another religious rationalization. You can't pretend to know anything about gods any more than you can "know" about fairies, vampires, werewolves or other supernatural beings. It's only belief, it's only elements of faith, it's not knowledge.

hes saying you dont have to reproduce to be good which is a reference to the OT where God says to be fruitful and multiply. Hes saying that, while it is good to reproduce, you will not be disqualified from heaven if you dont

warp exists which implies to some level there's an existence or higher dimension that influences reality which also implies higher powers like gods and God exists. Some possess powers to alter reality using the warp while helics can't do anything awesome but nag or cope using retarded logics over trivial matters. there is strength in bloodlines.

Nihilistic bedrock conflicts with truths that dictate all living things. Once you argue your nihilism to the point of having no point, you deny your biological drives to survive and multiply.

This is why nihilism ultimately becomes a shit show. People don't need a god to have a defined purpose, but they should give themselves a purpose for the benefit of their biological prerogatives.

In short, create the moral system that will maximize your ability to thrive and start a family.

Society needs religion because we have too many retards who need a pre packaged moral code that needs no justification other "my god wills it".

Agnostic

Means without knowledge, while gnostic means with knowledge.

This swings both ways in atheism and theism

I'm an agnostic atheist because I lack belief in God or gods but I don't claim to know.

God gave you a certain level of reading comprehension

Romans 12:6-8
New International Version
6 We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. If your gift is prophesying, then prophesy in accordance with your[a] faith; 7 if it is serving, then serve; if it is teaching, then teach; 8 if it is to encourage, then give encouragement; if it is giving, then give generously; if it is to lead,[b] do it diligently; if it is to show mercy, do it cheerfully.

Which is more important to you, your Earthly life or your supposed afterlife?

abarim-publications.com/Interlinear-New-Testament/Matthew/Matthew-19-parsed.html

Nigger.
Read the Greek.

He is encouraging self castration.
Which was rampant in the primitive church.

Nice circular reasoning. Contradiction and circular reasoning is all you've got

I try to act in a way that Im well off in the future whatever may come, so I am indeed acting like there is some heaven or after life

Morality and a "higher good" existed long before your gods were invented

those are the words but in context that is simply not the case

you have a myopic and legalist interpretation, are you a Pharisee btw?

Atheistic governments have done nothing but instill communist dictatorships and mass murdered over 150 million people in the span of a century. Without God, anything is permissible.

Atheistic governments have done nothing but instill communist

It's the reverse

Every atheist, Muslim, and jew will burn in hell. Christians will enter into eternal life. Don't be a fool and stop with your denial of Him. His hand is outreached still

murdered over 150 million people in the span of a century.

Your god told Moshe to genocide every Caananite woman and child.

Dont come with this bullshit.

thats an argument in favor of God. the fact that we do not live in a shithole world where it pays to be a villain and that there are such things as "higher goods" and morality

Since Jesus came to earth has God commanded a killing of anybody?

No we absolutely didn’t and 2,000 years of nothing happening is proof of that. Morality as a tool is no different in its exponential capability than technology in destroying shit.

Stop pretending you don’t see the elephant. Because the elephant is the point of the gospel, which underlines that the necessity of morality is predicated on the fact that the gospel was necessary to begin with. Now religion is satanic and every single arguement made targeting it with the conclusion that’s against God is contradictory and completely strawmanning why Jesus did what he did.
Believe Jesus said something about priests being blind guides, the layman equivalent of a gatekeeper. Almost like you’re in a false dichotomy.

No we absolutely didn’t

We did. It's how society is formed and laws codified.

People who agreed on the moral ideals grouped up and made society

And continued to do exactly what it did before with no change. Underlining what Christ was saying was the cycle of shit itself and it was predicated on something we can’t mitigate which the attempts of doing so lead to religion and overbearing Orwellian world governments that centralize everything.

You’re a retard. Simple as.

Yes. Millions have died for your anorexic pedophile and his communist hippie ideology.

And continued to do exactly what it did before with no change.

Yup. People who agreed grouped up in packs and tribes, then developed more agreed upon morales, survived and made society

It's that simple

continues to ignore the elephant

Nah, you want me to see an imaginary elephant

You're an atheist because you lack belief in any gods

In the realm of what can be believed:
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Religions are based on beliefs. The Pope said so himself (Fides et Ratio). Beliefs are irrational and don't require any proof (elements of faith)
Gods are supernatural beings that can only be believed in or not believed in. Beliefs in supernatural beings, like demons, witches, gods, sorcerers, angels, leprechauns, abominable snowmen, devils, elves, ghosts, fairies, mummies, mermaids, vampires, werewolves, goblins, Ishtar bunnies, ghouls, zombies and other such beliefs are irrational. We suspend our disbelief in them for entertainment.

In the realm of what is knowable (knowledge):
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Gnostic is what is known
Agnostic is what is not known (but can be)

Gnostic/agnostic logically cannot have anything to do with beliefs, and beliefs are not 'knowable.

You don't claim to know, but the fact is, gods are not knowable. Religions have operated for centuries under the false assumption that they "know" gods and anyone who has never been told about their gods is ignorant. It's a clear rationalization.

Long ago the church provided us with their incorrect definitions for atheist and agnostic because of their burning-at-the-stake need for precise definitions of the various non-believers prior to putting them to death. This is odd because there is no single Scrabble-recognized word that describes people who don't play golf, for example, but ones have been coined for people who fail to believe in the registered Abrahamic deities.

You're an atheist because you lack belief in any gods

Until evidence convinces me otherwise

Someone making a point about the futility of religion and government in constraining man and proving it’s contradictory to its supposed intent isn’t imaginary. You simply don’t believe in God and choose to use the evidence to suggest he doesn’t exist.

Someone making a point about the futility of religion and government in constraining man and proving it’s contradictory to its supposed intent isn’t imaginary

What's futile about them?

You simply don’t believe in God

Correct .

and choose to use the evidence to suggest he doesn’t exist.

Not my fault God fails to meet its burden of proof.

Stalin was religious, raised in a religious household, attended Russian Orthodox seminary school. He knew what the Church was up to when it tried to overthrow the fledgling Soviet Union.

Mao was a religious Taoist who attended Confucius college. His little red book was a collection of secular aphorisms based on popular religious precepts.

Hitler was pro-Christian, anti-Judaism and pretended he was neither

If you had to quantify that, would you say:
80% Earthly
20% heaven

or more like:
20% Earthly
80% heaven

If Atheism won it would be self evident

Religions are nothing more then extrapolation on natural phenomenons and neo-platonism

Atheism is a death cult that prays for void as escape for their own subhuman desires

Why? Because I say so!

It proves that societies that survived well enough to support a leisurely parasite class of religious deceivers came long after well-functioning moral systems were established.

Now the major religions, funded by 10% tithing from the poorest households in the world, hold over $1 trillion in wealth.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_religious_organizations

And their victory can be precisely measured in the social atrophy and rapidly progressing institutional dysfunction subsequent to the encroachment of this enlightened doctrine into the social milieu.
Truth is singular, but falsehoodsare plentiful.
The further Europe departs from its foundation, the sooner shall it usher its final demise.

"What I relate is the history of the next two centuries. I describe what is coming, what can no longer come differently: the advent of nihilism. This history can be related even now; for necessity itself is at work here. This future speaks even now in a hundred signs, this destiny announces itself everywhere; for this music of the future all ears are cocked even now. For some time now, our whole European culture has been moving as toward a catastrophe, with a tortured tension that is growing from decade to decade: restlessly, violently, headlong, like a river that wants to reach the end, that no longer reflects, that is afraid to reflect."
All the mighty worlds of the ancient order of society are blown into space—for they are all based on lies: there will be wars the like of which have never been seen on earth before. Only after me will there be grand politics on earth.” Nietzsche around 1888

two great quotes how people lost faith in religion and how nihilism lead to huge wars and millions of deaths.

At that point, if there were tangible evidence, it would be a fact and not a mere belief. You would accept the evidence or you would reject it if you had better contrary evidence. It's the way science works.

Indeed

reddit tranny neckbeard!
/thread

it would be a fact and not a mere belief

What is it with atheists and being terminal midwits?

C'mon big boy, use your words and not your hurt feelings

And their victory can be precisely measured in the social atrophy and rapidly progressing institutional dysfunction

Said every nihilist ever

Already did. If you lack the cognitive capacity to understand what I'm saying, try playing with someone more on your level.

Already did

Nah, you let hurt feelings take over.

Yes, civilisational collapse is a recurring event even in the recorded human history, and it's always accompanied by a set of phenomena that show extremely high level of invariance across time and place, a topic familiar to anyone but the freshest of newfags.
Excepting of course, that no such tablet exists, and neither did Assyria in XXIX century bc, but that is entirely within expectations here, since like I said atheists inevitably do not come in specifications above the midwit level.

and neither did Assyria in XXIX century bc

Incorrect. In the 29th century BC, Assyria was in its formative stages, not yet a major player in the ancient Near East. It was a city-state, likely centered around the city of Ashur, and existed alongside other emerging Mesopotamian city-states like Ur, Babylon, and Sippar

atheists inevitably do not come in specifications above the midwit level.

Seems you're that midwit boyo

Yes, civilisational collapse is a recurring event even in the recorded human history, and it's always accompanied by a set of phenomena that show extremely high level of invariance across time

Simply put, one extreme begets the other until it boils over

my parents are atheist

Retards don't like being in the dark and not knowing stuff so they make shit up and gaslight themselves that their stories are actually true.

low iq, there are more spics in the United States, than Spain(its in Europe)

Nietzsche faulted religion for being the existential nihilism and apathy for being the moral nihilism. My interpretation was that human nature drove men to violent conflict. but that urge to overpower others would ultimately be the force that drove him to overcome and better himself (Ubermensch). Transformative destruction.

Transformative destruction

The entropy of man.

We will take a non-white Christian over a white pagan any day because a non-white Christian is worshiping the White God, Jesus Christ and the white pagan is worshiping a demonic entity.

The oldest evidence indicating urban settlements from that area originates few centuries after that date, so that would be a no.
That's not the case either. Complex organisation is rare, its opposite anything but, and corresponds to the vast majority of human existence.

I can admit I've fallen for an occasional fake meme. Fake memes are the rule, not the exception here. But there are plenty of others.

The oldest evidence indicating urban settlements from that area originates few centuries after that date, so that would be a no.

Burden of proof is on you

That's not the case either

It really is. We see it all throughout history

Complex organisation is rare, its opposite anything but, and corresponds to the vast majority of human existence.

Well complexity can present challenges and may not be desirable in all situations, organizations are inherently complex, and complexity is often an unavoidable consequence of growth and interconnectedness. Complexity is a natural part of the evolution of organizations, particularly as they grow and become more interconnected.

Not really all that rare

Burden of proof is on you

Has is it ever occured to you that this here level of midwittery is why you're not taken seriously?
This would be a good time to consider the proper distinction between a fact and a belief that I alluded to earlier, which unsurprisingly you, with your middling mental process, still haven't grasped.

Well complexity can present challenges and may not be desirable in all situations, organizations are inherently complex, and complexity is often an unavoidable consequence of growth and interconnectedness. Complexity is a natural part of the evolution of organizations, particularly as they grow and become more interconnected.

You aren't even saying anything worth addressing here.
Is that bloated verbiage supposed to be a stand in for an actual input pertaining to the proportion between higher level organisation versus its lack in human historical existence?

Has is it ever occured to you that this here level of midwittery is why you're not taken seriously?

This would be a good time to consider the proper distinction between a fact and a belief that I alluded to earlier, which unsurprisingly you, with your middling mental process, still haven't grasped.

Ad homs aren't proof.

You aren't even saying anything worth addressing here.

Yet you wrote a paragraph after

the proportion between higher level organisation versus its lack in human historical existence?

It shows there's neither a lack or rarity to it.

You're more than welcome to demonstrate how it is. But the likelihood of you replying with emotional cope is higher

Unsurprising, it would be infair to expect a midwit to elevate himself above his natural station. Case in point:

It shows there's neither a lack or rarity to it

I was right

You're more than welcome to demonstrate how it is. But the likelihood of you replying with emotional cope is higher

Thanks

That's not only for you to declare, but objectively incorrect.
But I'm sure thanking yourself will help you cope.

That's not only for you to declare

You did it for me. Kek

That's not only

not only not

Lmao

No I'm an atheist but people think that means I must be a tranny. However because I am an atheist I don't believe the tranny religion

Based

Memeflag religion thread

You will be violently executed in public

Don't care about any of the replies, most of them will be seething and middle school insults. Just

B U M P

Explanation is not fundamentally possible. At the end of any chain of explanations you end with unexplained facts that just are. Like, what exactly does a genie coming from nothing for no reason explain, absolutely nothing.

I'd like to think that we are on an infinite scale. Whatever we perceive as the visible universe is just the border of something else's atoms and vice versa. Inside our atoms is another hidden infinity

God exist because he allowed me to coom inside vagina, something you have never done. Enjoy hell Satanist retard.

all religions are wrong

says who?

m-me...

Unreliable source.

im agnostic but all the most retarded, evil, low iq, delusional garbage i have ever heard was from atheists or people that claim to be "christian" but in reality are not real christians and know little to nothing about christianity.

also jews generally want christians and muslims to become atheist because christianity and islam are largely opposed to judaism so keeping people ignorant is a net positive for them, just saying.

You ever noticed how a majority of Atheists don't even dare to touch Muslims or Jews? It's just non-stop Christian hate. Wonder why that is.

my guess is that christians generally dont go after people and are a lot harder to get emotional about shit. muslims get actually mad when u trash the quran or islam in general and jews use social media and leftists to cancel your ass/also ADL.

You ever noticed how a majority of Atheists don't even dare to touch Muslims or Jews?

Yoi ever notice your flag? Or that Christianity dominates the West? Or that Christians are the loudest snd most egotistical next to Muslims?

Hmmmmm

Christians are the loudest

u must be quite retarded considering most "christians" today dont even know anything about christianity. in fact no one ever brings it up.

u must be quite retarded

The Christian and only Christians who knock on my door are.

Athiesm is a religion based around worshipping godlessness. You worship materialism. Accept it you hypcrite

Athiesm is a religion

Nope

GOD is the creator of the universe

also hides like a sewer RAT, and cannot afford to be seen

A religious person have to throw away his logical thinking to cope with this