Why are women so incredibly bad at conversation?

Just had this little exchange. And it baffles me that they are so inept at conversation.
I intentionally gave her a plethora of conversation jumping off points...and it just kept being

Me me me

Keep in mind she matched with me.
I knew she had "liked" me before I swiped on her. What causes this utter lack of social skills

Inb4 she said she was nurodivergent

That's made up BS new speak. Just fucking say youre shy.
Fuck, IM shy, im just sick of having to do ALL the work in a conversation.
Give me some off the wall BS to respond with otherwise im leaving her on read.

Not your personal blog kys

I have a mental disorder

Feel bad for me

Leave her on read.

NO. Now what faggot?

She doesn't have a mental disorder, I guarantee she is

Self diagnosed.

She is just shy.

texts women

jfc bro, why are you trying to have a conversation on a dating app? Go straight for the smash. Instead of trying to "give her a plethora of jumping off points," make her jump on the d

Further context

She's a dumb bitch who's self diagnosing herself like she's some expert. Leave her on read.

... Retard.

Theyre not nearly as bad at conversation as their behavior might suggest.
The issue is that they legitimately fucking hate men and think they're above you at all times. They talk to men like annoying little kids after getting on an app with the specific intention of talking to men.

That's a pick me.

You both sound dumb as fuck, you actually more than her though.

You must be very horny to talk to that.

legitimately fucking hate men and think they're above you at all times

This. Leaving them on read does way better damage.

I'm not horny at all. However, I was hoping for at least somewhat of a good conversation.
It's not just her, I match quite frequently. All sorts of women. It's all the same BS, no conversation abilities foids.

Can somebody explain what a pickme is?
If anybody is looking to find a relationship with the other gender, theyre essentially always advertising themselves to be chosen in some way or another necessarily speaking. I'm sure the term refers to people who go beyond the norm to try to do this but where is the line? What was the red flag for this one?

We will see.
Im not responding unless she asks a fucking question.

Just match with fags and cocktease them. Probaboy better conversation than women.

/thread

This, I straight up say I am more comfortable talking on the phone, if they dont want to call then i dont bother. i always get dates because I am much more charismatic on the phone.

What the fuck is your problem OP? How is this not a decent conversation? Not everyone is fucking Craig Ferguson, you act like she gave one word responses. Fuck your entitled ass.

You never get matched do you?
You're probably one of those søyboys that post their profile on r*ddit asking for people to critique it aren't you?
Lol.

You call me a retard, and yet you're the one trying to make a deep intellectual connect over text on a dating app with a shrooming, busted hambeast from Loon Lake, Washington.

Red flag and "pick me" status for this one was the "I met this celebrity." Her eyes are a give away too. The dyed hair doesn't help, nor the choker. All flags that are red and not worth the time. Think of all the time that could be better spent somewhere else - adds up.

That might work. I just dont want to actually talk though, and its not because I have a bad voice or anything, I actually do voice work. Maybe if she gave me the slightest reason to want to put in that much effort. But fuck...they never do.

Even that sounds like a waste of your time. Being honest, would you even want to fuck this girl anymore? Let alone buy her something or spend time on her?

Lol I like to tease fat women, just like OP. Weird how there seems to be a perfectly negative correlation between their attractiveness and how interested in me they are.

The most interesting thing about me is the people I've met by accident.

Imagine expecting Roger Penrose levels of discourse from that aspiring landwhale.

This

I completely agree with you, I'm not interested in her, just using her as an example.

not because I have a bad voice or anything, I actually do voice work.

OP earns a living with his throat

If a woman likes you it’ll mostly be her doing the talking. At least in my experience
I see you’re using a dating app, so that’s probably going to be hard to find.

This

Pretty cringe ngl.

Again, she matched with me and started the conversation. What was the point? So many of them do that, it's ridiculous.

This is my experience too. Once a girl decides that she likes you, it really matters very little what you do or say.

Expect that if you’re going to use apps
Just saying

Dating apps aren't even worth it. Full of sex workers, libs and land whales alike. Actual women are found through friends, family or community centers.

That’s been my experience too

Lol.
Im a whore
youtu.be/lWvJA6n6qSw?si=0mVPqEXYZLpJVvAA

Well... I'm screwed then.

oh jesus christ. The amount of people who think this is a normal way to talk to strangers is distressing.

shrek facies

breh should have left swiped and saved yourself the hassle

Oh please. Enlighten us...what would be a normal conversation to you?
Green text us some shining example.

Trying to date an absolute stranger based on a couple of pics and a short bio is distressing. I don't recommend it.

sending a wall of text

sending more verbiage than the woman

fat bpd cunt

ngmi

I never did, if I'm being honest. I just figured,

Hey, maybe she might at least be fun to talk to for a bit.

Holy fuck women are dead boring.
Only thing worse is some asshole trying to small talk his way into some pussy or a ‘meaningful’ relationship KEK

She has probably come to expect this. Being an ugly fatso, most guys messaging her have no intention of meeting up. That's why she waits for you to show interest by asking her out

Not him but I'll go.

M: hey girl your profile says you like physics

F: yeahh wow stephen hawking quantum mechanics pictures of black holes blrrrghhh

M: cool come over to my place at 1030 tn + we'll try the slit experiment together

hey, dtf?

this anon understands how to succeed at online dating apps, follow his lead

This

Dating apps is where you keep it short, set something up in-person n build the meaningful crap at that time. Who tf wants to txt back n forth? Especially with a women? If you're capable of having extensive intellectual conversations with one, she's crazy and going to drive you such too, deep intellectual conversations are between men. Anything else is feminist propaganda.

I like it. How successful has that approach been for you?

Unironically it is the only thing that has worked, and it works at least twice a week.

I'm gonna get accused of being a feminist and/or simp for saying this but I'm gonna do it anyway and then head out

I just thought it'd be fun to talk for a while

Right, but you didn't specify with her that you just wanted to talk for a bit and weren't interested, right? Because you knew she'd leave because she's trying to do something else on the app?
So really, you meant that it would be fun to feel like you were winning for once by kicking down at this dork. I get that the game is fucking rigged but that's called leading people on and women do it to men for fun all the time. That is a profoundly uncool way to treat other people. Fuck you for making me pity a roastie this evening.

To be fair, you're both fucking boring.

Welp, I ain't that guy. I might be if she had the slightest bit of energy. But it's the fact that she came on to me.
Its insulting. It's like asking a friend out to lunch and expecting them to pay.
And they are ALL like that.

F. Hey how are you?

M. I'm good, how about you?

F. I'm good

.........

M. Probing questions, something about their profile etc

F. Yeah.

.......
Ffs. Over and over again.
At least the catfish are fun to fuck with. Jfc.

God damn, I think I've been doing it all wrong.

are you autistic?

am him, that is actually pretty funny.

Me: oh hey, whats up?
Her: not much yourself?
Me: Just finished up from work and going to start cooking dinner
Her: Whatcha making?

then you talk about what you're cooking, other interests, how your day was, how her day was, blah, blah, blah. Normal shit. If you cant talk normally, you're not going to get normal girls. You're going to get socially maladjusted girls because you talk like you're socially maladjusted.

don't take life too seriously, might as well go for it.

Good, since it's just a number's game. You get a pool of bitches, send them something like that n you get a few who respond and set it up. You gotta think they're cock thirsty to begin with n are on there for cock.

What percentage of bitches would you say are dtf after a couple of messages?

I didn't want to kick down at her, at all.
No offense, but you assholes provide the most in-depth conversations I've had in years.
It would be nice to have one with a female again. It used to happen all the time.
I've actually had some really good thought provoking conversations with some of them. Now though, they just all seem to be so fucking braindead and lazy.
I've not changed my approach, and I'm not just looking to get laid. Had plenty of that. Its not a need. Its always empty, really its just exercise. I cant even nut if I dont give a fuck about them.

Realistically about 30%. There are tons of women who are just faking it out there, or other women that just snap at you and have no sense of humor. It's better to find that out quickly. "hey, dtf" is a bitchslaying weapon of infinite power, like Gram against Fafnir or a gram against coke whores.

Hoes and pimps ball

What the fuck is that? She's a fat pig, anon, I can't imagine how much of a fat fuck you are to even consider it. The conversations from both ends feels superficial and flaccid too.

sex distribution by IQ

Whites only 2/3rds the country, half that women

Women intellectually capable will frequently either be 'tism touched or have fallen prey to higher education ideological indoctrination. Character and Intellect are not necessarily correlated-- a healthy and pleasant grugess will in most cases be preferable to a dickless faggot with suicidal politics.

why are you entertaining a fat liberal autist

kys retard

Shallow and pedantic.

Yeah... but I'm not dtf though. Not anymore.
At least not till I get to know them.
I guess I'm what the kids call demisexual.
I need an emotional connection.
Otherwise it's just exercise. They cum, they fall in love. IDC, and they get butthurt. Usually two ways.

I'm going to give this a shot, wise one. We'll see how it goes, I might just be too ugly. Now that I think about it, it makes a lot of sense that women would just want directness.

I actually appreciate your reply and acknowledge that I was being a duck there assumptively.
I get what you're talking about, that frustration that women don't act like normal people anymore or talk the way they used to. I see it myself and it fucking sucks. I also understand the idea of lowering your normal looks-standards to at least try to have a fucking conversation with someone. Despite what a lot of incels on here would like you to believe, there is something women being to conversations which men do not and it is frequently pleasant when women are not encouraged to be antisocial assholes. Women dont do it anymore but just like on the micro scale that you cannot argue someone into loving you, on the macro scale there's no way to treat women in general which convinces them to be normal. It fucking sucks, man.

Fucking kill yourself nigga, god damn.

They both sound retarded.

AI was spot on with this match.

Just that, 3 out of 20, so like 15%. The key is being direct n upfront. Shows confidence and what you want. No one likes a chud who's just playing pretend to get some pussy. Keeping it direct or even casual is where it's at. But, like I said, I wouldn't even recommend dating apps, the one's that were dtf weren't relationship material at all.

Leave her on read.

No. I love fucking with mentally ill bitches. I grew up with a mentally ill mother and she destroyed me. I get my revenge by torturing women like her. I enjoy triggering mentally ill cunts and making them suffer. I've made one girl kill herself. In her suicide note she named me as the cause of it. I couldn't be happier. The cops came around to ask questions. I told them lawyer and they never came back.

Remember women who claim mental illness or instability are just using it as an excuse to excuse their evil actions.

She's a dumb bitch who's self diagnosing herself like she's some expert.

Ah yes the experts
A jew who makes up a disease with no observable medical condition to sell you drugs or take away your rights

Trust the experts

Well...on the bright side, artificial wombs are coming along, we've been able to make egg cells from any cells for a while now, and a male mouse with two male parents lived a full and healthy life in a recent experiment. Hopefully we can be done with women soon enough, entirely. Hopefully our grandchildren at the latest wont have to suffer them.

I wouldn't mind just getting some pussy desu. The couple of girls I have gone out with have asked about my romantic experience and seemed surprised and turned off that I was a virgin. Fuck that, I'm done wasting my time trying to conversate with them. This has genuinely changed my perspective, so thank you.

I believe in you, anon. Go forth and make them ride the tiger.

Then why are you shopping for a companion on PussyDash and UberBitch? You will never find what you're looking for there. Save yourself the existential dread and the dangerhaired slampigs of Loon Lake.

wah i have mommy issues

kys

Your replies were akin to that of a redditor.

, there is something women being to conversations which men do not

terms of endearment and charming affectations
i work with a lot of middle and elderly age black and hispanic women, and they are for whatever reason fairly effusive and will gas you up if you give them the slightest attention

Yeah, leaving them on read is the best torturing tool you have with them, cause they start questioning why you'd left them on read and the spiral just goes on from there.

Sarcastic feminist or gay man?

Lad, you're talking to a 1.5/10 like you want to wife her. Get a grip.

Alright, what would you say to her then? The conversation is as you see it in the op.
I'll check, yup. Still the same.

I can see that you're in the "Not People" category of men. The best thing you can do for your dating life is unironically to delete the app and go gymcel for a year. Do that and then you won't feel the need to settle for Piggers anon. Pathetic.

Np. Gl.

Mate just ask her her bodycount at this point, she is a fucking dumpster fire, may as well just throw on some petrol

Make sure to rub one out less than ten minutes before you dive in. Otherwise, you'll be done before the tip gets wet.

Man listens to or cares about what women say they want = incel/cuck

i’m in washington, 20 mins outside seattle
spokane is shit. i was pulled over and ticketed for speeding when i first came to washington in spokane and some dumbass ran into the back of a truck and was killed and held me up in traffic for days.
everyone in washington is a shit driver.

What a useless thread

She is fat and butt ugly and the very fact that she's still talking to you is a 100% positive sign she wants the D right now. Do what you will with that info.

hes likely a porn addict and more likely to get performance anxiety and not get hard

Always lie about your sexual experience with women, preferably ask them first then just add on some.

That would probably work but I don't like to lie. It's not worth losing my last ounce of self respect. I have had opportunities for sex before so its not like I'm some mega incel

wtf are those autism movie rants

i would probably end up disliking you very much

where is loon lake?

wow this moron doesnt use google

what brings you to dating apps?

kind of worded in an autistic way but whatever

im looking for someone to be there when i die and actually be sad about it

i dont want to die ever. this guy wants to die first and have me in misery over his death while he stops feeling anything. i dont like talking about death.

not that i expect to die anytime soon...

i signed up for this app for fun now i have a retard obsessing about death.

but at the end of the day inst that what we really all want?
i dont want to die ever. this moron wants someone to carry emotional baggage over someone who cant fucking use google.

ewww i hope you took a shower.

kind of insulting.

dicaprio took inspiration from a former roommate of mine for the scene in that movie where they took some weird drug.

i wonder if this guy does drugs and wonder if he irresponsible with drugs

pretty much this. Also, the story about dicaprio is probably a lie. I mean, she is lying too both two wrongs dont make a right. at least her's was more believable and humble.
also, bringing up dating apps implies she is on more then one and they are all identical. Very judgey and negative.

No. That only works if she really wants you. Most modern women jump from dick to dick. She can literally have another you in a minute if she so wants. The best tactic is to lead her on, make her think you're of much better catch than you actually are. Make her think that you're rich. Then tell her that she's not good enough for you and block her. Make her feel small and inferior. Make her feel like she's not good enough for even an ugly rich guy. Humiliate her. Mentally destroy her.

To me, she reads as an attention starved woman who uses nuerodivergency as an excuse for her lack of social skills. I find nothing really egregious about her. Apart from being in portland and her obvious weight. You; OP; scream to me as desperate. Talking about death and having someone by your side, and saying that 'your friend' being an inspiration to something that happened in a movie. It makes you sound like a loser and makes pussies crusty and dry. Talk about yourself and your accomplishments. Any stories involving your friends should involve you too. Make her think that you're actually better than you are. Your shyness is a result of poor socialization and torment from a feminist society that hates men. You have to be assertive. You can still be shy. Just dont let women know it. I was a shy kid too, because of my bad upbringing. What got me out of my shyness was my desire for love. My convos with women still suck. I cant discuss deep topics with them. Because that's not what women are for. Men who discuss politics with women do so because they have no game. They're usually short and weak and use words as a substitute for actions. My convos with women are short and succinct. To either get me pussy or get her to fuck off from me. I have problems with relationships. Because I dont love women. I use them and discard them. I only keep them around when the sex is good.

The girl is the one in yellow, right? You're not exactly the best conversationalist yourself going on and on about celebrity bullshit. I don't even know half those names.

If the woman wants to go on a date so badly she can simply bring it up if the conversation is interesting enough. It's 2025.

I intentionally gave her a plethora

All she wanted you to give her was your dick. How could you fuck this up so badly?

I knew she had "liked" me

But you gave her "talking points" instead of sex. Are you gay?

Fuck, IM shy, im just sick of having to do ALL the work in a conversation.

FAG-IT.

All women are feminists and all feminist evidence is anecdotal. Ask them a question and they will tell you a little story. Ask them a question to clarify what you infer is the point of the story and they will tell you another story. When they do attempt to draw a conclusion or a larger inference from an anecdote they will often ask, “Does that make any sense?” And the answer, of course is (almost invariably) no, it doesn’t make any sense. And since I wasn’t trying to get any of them into bed, I would say so (if you’re trying to get them into bed, you always say “yes, that makes perfect sense” or manufacture some sensible interpretation that has nothing to do with what they said). Telling them that they don’t make sense, I found, is like telling them that not only do they not win the trip to Hawaii, they don’t even get the Samsonite luggage. They become forlorn and uncommunicative. That was when I realized that it was impossible to engage them on an intellectual, reasoning, “writerly” level – that is, in a purely matter-of-fact fashion. I had to act, had to portray myself as being happy, sympathetic, interested and cheerful in order to maintain a level of . . .

. . . I don’t know what you would call it. It wasn’t communication in any meaningful sense of the term as I understand it. It was a kind of “emotional badminton.” I acted happy, sympathetic, interested and cheerful and then it was her turn to act happy, sympathetic, interested and cheerful and then it was my turn, etc. She might accidentally say something interesting where I could, with sincerity, say that I found what she had just said interesting.

This temporarily escalated the level of her cheerfulness but, alas, that is all that it did: whatever was being said ranking a very distant second to maintaining and escalating the level of cheerfulness. A very, very distant second. I realized that this is where the “henhouse cacophony” originates. If “communication” within a group of women is working properly (as women see “working properly”) everyone should be talking faster and faster and faster and in a higher and higher musical range – either portraying themselves or being (the two states being deemed interchangeable in the female world) cheerful, more cheerful, “cheerfulest” – until, maximum cheerfulness having been achieved, a glass breaks or something.

That was when I realized that women are emotion-based beings. “Once a thing is seen, it can’t be unseen.” I gave a couple of more tries at relationships after that (a year-and-a-half and three-and-a-half years respectively) but it was really like solving a “brain teaser” after someone has given you the answer. You know – one of those puzzles where you are supposed to “make three triangles by connecting the dots using only seven lines” (or whatever). It can drive you insane for a month, but if you look in the back of the book, or if someone shows you how it’s solved or you figure it out on your own, there is little entertainment value to be had in endlessly drawing those same seven lines to make those same three triangles. Likewise, there is little in the way of intellectual value to be derived from revisiting – either mentally or “in person” the simple fact (once discovered), that women are emotion-based beings and that (consequently) any female-centred or female-originated political movement – more precisely, “political” “movement” – will lack sound intellectual footing.

Your mistake is attempting to engage a basic bitch woman with witty repartee and expecting her to remotely comprehend, let alone respond in a satisfactory manner. The women with the brains power required to make that dialogue a two-way street aren't worth it either.

This is an excerpt of Dave Smith's essay called "Tangent"

Gross dude

She seems pretty in first pic and had decent taste in music. If you have troubletalking with all women then the problem is you and you don’t deserve better. You deserve to stay a virgin and then doxing fairly normal women on this hell hole for points. Shame on you. People like you deserve the worst.