Oh no. They believe this

Oh no. They believe this.

op believes that the white people won't work

art skills would transfer nicely to construction

I don't think he knows how construction works

I don't think you do. Construction is unskilled labor.

Someone has to blow the construction workers at lunch.

To give him the benefit of the doubt, he's probably thinking carpentry or architecture more than actual construction work.

He's a retard who couldn't think of the word architecture.

I once helped a friend hang his photo prints for a graduation gallery exhibit. A lot of the other students didn't know how to calculate making the midpoint of the print be at 48" from the ground, incorporating the wire hang slack, but they learned.

Democrats are using the same arguments from 150 years ago

if we get rid of the slaves, who'll pick the cotton?

I don't think he knows how construction works

kek, imagine being so angry and petty that people who work hard as shit figure out how to stay in the game

artists would kill it if they get into construction, especially in the finish works

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My art skills would translate nicely to construction

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Who was cutting the lawns before all the spics? Was every lawn in the US overgrown in 1950?

how did the world exist before mexicans arrived?

If all the boomers died, no one would pay spics to cut their lawn

Illegals don’t build homes trade skills require highly skilled professionals that don’t make oppsies.

And I’m a better artist than him. Art is kind of similar to construction sometimes but the creative side is the antithesis of trade work. Trades people are basically paid to not make mistakes, and the creative side of art is all about happy mistakes.

People took pride in personally keeping their communities beautiful and to afford a mortgage you didn’t need two people working 100 hours a week.

I would unironically start a job as a construction laborer tomorrow if it paid $50 an hour. Illegals start at about $20 I looked it up.

LOL

always that one fat mexican sitting in the shade depressingly 20 feet away from the site gate.

You mean before 20% of America was filled with illegal aliens?

why wouldn't american men want to build houses they and their children will live in? those lawn cutting jobs are perfect jobs for teens to make money at early age and life experience for adulthood

china will lose to america because they won't import millions of spics and jeets
t. peter zeihan

getting rid of illegal immigrants is heartless!

we need underpaid labor to support our lifestyles!

Pay is all that matters. Im in a field that pays well compared to my surrounding area, or id be in another that pays well. That's it. I just need enough to pay bills and shit.

Had a friend who studied art to become a sculptor.
He started a company that designs big marble fireplaces and mantelpieces for new houses and even a hotel or two, and he's worth several million at this point.
You're a retard and a faggot.
Stick to jacking off to furry porn, that caliber of "artistry" is probably more your speed.

Probably better for the yard work

Remove illegal alien labor

Wages rise

Government benefits to poor but able-bodied people are reduced or eliminated

Free money stops, jobs with acceptable levels of pay become available

People on welfare got jobs

Illegal aliens gone

Sounds pretty based

My hometown is still 90% white maybe try not being on welfare

"So with all the Mexicans gone, where are you going to get your fruit from? Oh, what, are you gonna pick it yourself?"

YES!!! Jesus, man.....

a lot of art requires a meticulousness and attention to detail that does transfer over to a lot of other fields. the skills you hold in your brain aren't compartmentalized. it's all fluid.

Believes that his "art" is worth money

Wages rise

Enjoy your 8,000$ mortgage.

Trite

We do. Mexicans are not gighly skilled carpenters. It's all white guys leading high level framing teams etc. Electricians are always white or asian. This is in Southern Califotnia as well, the largest mexican population. Almost all companies have white leaders that built their clientele since the 70's/80's. Mexicans work on bullshit. I only worked for white guys, and never ran into a mexican company owner, not once. White guys also typically are the trainers of mexicans. Some of them get good as fuck, but ALL of them being better is insanity. The best drywallers I've ever seen were Guatemalan. The best tile guy was from El Salvador. The best framer, painter, and all around carpenter white. Roofer laborer mexican, roofer lead white. Plumbing white. Landscaping mexican. Concrete white. Anybody that has worked for a serious company knows mexicans are mediocre as far as skills go, but sometimes you get one that works hard as fuck. They are almost always not mexican though lol, just look it.

Work is for the goyim

but what about my heckin' marvel movies?

Great. In 10 years your hometown will be foreign land.

If you think construction is unskilled then you’re a dumbass

Mutts can even wipe their ass with some Filipina nurse helping them. They only get out of bed by a hoyer lift. Dafuq you talking about making houses and doing trades n shit

less immigration in the past, illegal and legal

houses somehow costed less

if it paid well

There's the problem.

Do you think the Haitians who eat dirt brownies know shit about construction?

You would never know most of the time if you had the worlds worst carpenter or the worlds best carpenter working on your house. Art is not like that at all. If your job as an artist is to not make mistakes you are not really an artist and will be replaced by ai.

why?

Option A: all construction stops, nothing more is built, no-one makes any more money

Option B: they have to pay construction workers more

they cannot afford option A

Okay great we’re getting somewhere. What circumstances caused us to work 100 hours a week and what steps should be taken to fix that? Don’t be lazy and just vaguely blame the rich. I want to know why a population had to double their working hours just to survive. What caused that to happen economically? What caused wages to stagnate? I know the answer, do you?

I applied for a bricklaying course at college in 2013, they claim they didn't have the funding or demand to let the course go ahead. Now we have a housing shortage 12 years later.

What's the argument here? That you refuse to pay American wages as dictated by market value? That workers negitiating for their own pay without the govt is bad? That construction is the worst job on the planet and NEEDS browns to do it? What does the left want? I mean, I know it's cheap slave labor and a permanent underclass they can lord over while expecting undying gratitude becausw they atteneded an elective class about their culture once, but why can't they just say it? Is this constant bitching about people not wanting to be underpaid in their own country really the hill they want to die on?

are you telling me american born citizens are not capable of learning same skills and doing those jobs? white owners apparently did. problem I have with your story is those american white owners are doing what boomers did, climbed up the ladder and promptly burned it behind them. people like that should be jailed after all their assets confiscated. if you go to mexico or gwatemala or el salvador and live there for few years you'll quickly realize how systems there work. LOCAL FRIEND, FAMILY gets the job first, then it's the LOCAL STRANGER, then it's the FOREIGNER with CITIZENSHIP and or RESIDENCY that's been renewed at least few times meaning they lived there for 10+ years. changes of you getting hired as fresh off the boat are pretty nill unless owner of the company hires you personally

I live near one of the big Cali fires and an NEET. Wouldn't mind a summer job in construction, but I'm sure they're only hiring illegal Spanish speakers through subcontractors. Someone actually in the construction industry told me that they pay undocumenteds $30/hour under the table and they work 7 days a week 12 hours a day like slaves, and wire the money back to their family in their shithole country.

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My White family's been building houses around here for 130 years and an American kids first job was usually cutting lawn and shoveling snow. Illegal aliens are not needed in the USA and never were, cope you're all going back.

My friend in his 50s can't do this math either which is why he pays me to hang pictures in his million dollar house.

For the last time illegals are not working as electricians or plumbers

If they can do that work they deserve to be here

You don’t know what “unskilled labor” means lol

The hubris of shitskins is immeasurable. How do they figure the US functioned when it was well over 85% White? (90+% of the rest being niggers who hardly work at all, regardless of employment status). It didn't just function; it became the most powerful country on the planet, with high wages/salaries too after the 50s. Yet somehow all of this would not have been possible without the tens of million of non White immigrants that would arrive decades later.

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Pablo Sanchez straight off the boat from Guatemala I’m sure goes right to work as an hvac tech

Lolllllllll

If it pays well

WHY DO YOU THINK WE LET ALL THE IMMIGRANTS DO THESE JOBS RETARD???

The world has been too jewed, younger generations don't understand there is a contract between employer and employee. They've been raised powerless after their negotiating power was sold by Boomers and X, the only time they see significant increases in their worth is either jumping to a better job or when the govt increases minimum wage and they get a pity bump so they aren't getting paid the exact same as a new hire after years of employment and will stick arpound a bit longer

WE LET

Speak for yourself shitskin leaf, all the guys on my uncles crew own houses, boats, multiple vehicles including boats and quads because we didn't play the 'I needs more' game with our community.

Strange how Canada never had illegals willing to do boring work for low pay yet we get by just fine with farming and construction work. Are americans really that lazy?

It became powerful because it grifted on rebuilding Europe and Japan. White people can’t build anything sustainably. Like a dry cum, white advancement quivers in a small convulsion and then becomes flaccid. That’s why the white man came with his begging bowl to black and brown people and said please I beg of ya, I can’t do it myself just do the work please saaar. Out of the goodness of black and brown people’s hearts we said ok, and built everything in the modern world. White people didn’t even have running water or private bathrooms. Black and brown people did that. The only thing white people did was lgtbq.

Kys memefag, if I was your CO I'd make you peel potatoes for a month for writing that stupid shit.

They have no choice. I was in a 70% hispanic area. You pay them less cause they don't pay taxes.

I'll assume for you sake that you had an epileptic seizure and this was the result.

I am old enough to remember when America was like that. You used to see white landscapers, white roofers, white construction workers. I did roofing for my friend's dad a whole summer so we could buy weed, and his family was white as shit, all blondes with blue eyes. It was a better world. America was a better place when Americans were building America for Americans.

Oh no, liberals think their limp sissy liberal hands will be enough for hard workin man labor!

They are incapable of learning anything new!

They cannot be taught either, no matter how much they love jew college!

They'd steal jobs from Real Men like us, right guys?

They wouldn't work for what they were worth anyway, prices would skyrocket! That would bankrupt us!

So what if people being paid more means they'd be able to handle higher prices???

You are the most contrarian do-nothing faggots in the world, ironically.

remember when America was like that

If I told you places like that still exist, would you believe me or say I was dreaming?

Sure, I'm sure there are places like that still. But it used to be like that in places where it no longer is.

Trades people are paid to follow the standard and to know when they are allowed to violate those standards. Fucking isiot

thread full of neets pretends they'd totally do shitty manual labor jobs if only they paid a fair wage of $7,000 an hour

My town fought the smear campaign from faggots at the NYT and won, but the commiefags still control the local government but can't do shit because we'll throw them in the fucking river if they try and import illegal aliens or criminal scum from Chicago. It wasn't an easy battle fren, but it was worth it.

Maybe he opened a history book. Or maybe he's just more than 50 years old.

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Most of these guys would get bullied so bad they wouldn’t last a week. It’s not a meme. Shitlibs don’t take this into consideration when it comes to blue collar work. Where I used to work, my boss made some 20 year old kid cry and then bullied him until he quit and the two soi cuck mechanical engineers didn’t even last 2 months. They prey on weakness. It’s kinda fucked.

You kikes do realize there is a middle ground between "$5/hour under the table for Juan" and "$7,000/hour for John", right? It's possible to create and offer jobs for legal citizens that also aren't pathetically low.
Stop being such a disingenuous little faggot

People who built the world cannot build a house

... if you deport them all you need less houses, houses prices fall, jobs forced to pay higher etc
also who do you think did build the houses before democrats ripped open the border for cheap voter import? ghosts?

The Japanese did most of the gardening until the 70's when they started letting Mexicans in en masse.

And what do you think the average white people considers a wage worth ending up a cripple at 50?

also who do you think did build the houses before democrats ripped open the border for cheap voter import?

The destitute immigrants who the US previously imported and then retroactively labeled "white" (excepting the Chinese) and niggers.

That was a boomer thing because they got shit from the old guys that hated them. Boomers were never liked by anyone so they took it out on everyone that came after them like the cunts they are.

any business operator that hires under table so they don't pay taxes should be jailed. either we all follow the law or none of us do

I think this board is full of people like that. Like a real handyman skillset or a complete and utter lack of any skillset.

In their defense, there was a time when every single one of those niggers were employed.

I was thinking stained glass might make a comeback. That'd be super sweet.

Down with elitist corporate capitalists!

Also

We need illegals to protect the capitalists profits!

only leftists believe they are "above" certain types of jobs. everyone else just wont work for 50 bucks a week.

Based

I could do with buildings looking nicer instead of cut and paste plywood lots. A artist that could do decent work in creating building would be nice.

American teens dont want to work.
They spend the first fifth of their lives being lazy and doing next to nothing (lest cps gets called on them) then get thrown into the workforce after 12 years of completely worthless education.
Theyre set up for failure from the beginning

I’m old enough to remember my friend’s dad’s roofing company going under and ruining his family’s trajectory forever.

His dad hired his buddies and started a roofing company. He had a middle class house with a pool, 3 kids. Don’t remember if the mom worked.

Mexicans cropped up and his dad very suddenly couldn’t get as many jobs—how was he going to go any lower and undercut the Mexicans? It’s not just him and his buddies, it’s him and his wife and three kids and his pool. The dad started drinking more, the dad went missing for like two days, they got divorced, it took a long time. Dad lives out of state now, brother and sister different parts of the state. He lived with his mom, he got his own place, he let his mom and her friend come live with him, quit the supermarket after working his way up the front end, got a job in a machine shop. Last I heard from him was pre-Covid, and he just got into a construction niche where he could make some real money.

I haven’t heard from him since, but I hope he’s okay.

American teens dont want to work.

they would if jobs were readily available and paid well like they used to. how did who boomer financial boom happened, dumdum. kids could work couple of summer jobs and save up enough to start a company or put a downpayment on starting a family. everyone wants to work, why do you think everyone wants to be influencer, streamer, OF now? because those are jobs that pay well enough

if it paid well

lol

most people want to be useful even if they don't know it yet. the problem is the lack of dignity in modernity.

There are literally dozens of construction jobs that are unskilled labour. Drywalling, tiling, job site security, asphalting, etc. You're a retard.

hanging drywall is too hard, goyim, so just give up you're country. Also, you're racist.

Its not American teens dont want to work, we dont have american teens. Americas population is greying median age is 39 years old. In the 90's it was 30.
You cant use teenagers for the shit jobs because nobodies having kids and that trend looks like its going to continue for the next couple of decades.
Importing the third world also isnt really a solution.

my art skills would translate nicely to construction

kek

You retards smoke meth so you can build the lowest quality cardboard shitboxes that don't pass inspection. Your "work" is worthless.

Actual construction is slow, deliberate, done well, and done once. None of which you do.

Oh no. They believe this.

Yeah, 'art skills'.

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Why are people laughing about this? I would love to see more artists get into construction maybe we can stop having these soulless glass buildings.

only democrats are capitalists

Found another one!