why did they start this stupid war? What was the point?
Why did they start this stupid war? What was the point?
Kill your fucking self
what war?
TO FUCK UKRAINEAN VIRGINS
AND GET A LOAD FROM FREEMASONS INTO THEIR THROAT
Jealosuness, FAS, jews, pride, lack of love, idiotism
wasn't Ukraine starting to crucify russian soldiers?
THIS IS AN END TIMES WAR.
Ukraine is 2nd largest country in Europe, and has some of the most fertile lands in the world.
ran out of krokodil
to cleanse humanity. it's just the beginning.
Even EU war whore Von der Leyen privately admitted it was largely LEGAL for Russia to invade ... her censorship of Russian media in the EU, was to try and hide this from EU citizens:
13,000+ ethnic minority Russians were killed in Donbass by Kiev 2014-22, before the invasion
and
Ukraine continually violated Minsk peace agreements, making clear the killings would not stop
Under international law, Article 1 of UN Charter, Donbass Russians had a right to rebel and be independent of Ukraine
see similar Kosovo case, 2010 Hague int'l court, declaring Kosovo had right to rebel from 'sovereign' Serbia
Russia had a right to come and protect the East Ukraine minority Russians, as they asked
An ethnic minority was attacked, and had a right to secede and seek protection by any outside country
Not to deny that Putin's Kremlin has been corrupt, slow-walking the war and not trying to win
E.g., Russia could blow up all the 20-odd Dnieper river bridges that carry nearly all men and supplies to the battle front - this would end the war in 30 days, but Russia doesn't do this, helping to drag out the slaughter of white man Slavs
But the initial invasion was LEGAL, in the goal to protect East Ukraine Russians, who were being killed by Kiev at instigation of NATO
kys tranny
Putins ego, the nigger wants to be remembered as a hero instead he is the faggot who killed off the Russian people and imported infinity churkas
covid was too obvious
why did they start this stupid war? What was the point?
They didn't start it, but they will finish it. Ukraine Fucked Around, and now they're Finding Out.
pootin needs to stay in power in russia indefinitely, simple as
prior to crimea Russia had zero deep water ports in the Black Sea
after obtaining crimea Russia had no way to transports goods from said port into Russia over land
the geography of Eastern Europe protects Russia from invasion except for a natural funnel through Ukraine
whoever controls Ukraine controls this geographical funnel
if the west controls it the west can March right into Russia through flat ground.
if Russia wants to March into the west they have to first go across all of the Ukrainian steppe
this is a bad position to be in if you’re Russia bc it’s a strictly defensive position
if Russia controls Ukraine the west is in that defensive position.
There are a multitude of other factors but the main driver of this war is strategic geography. Sadly Not enough people are educated about geography to understand.
This stupid war starts in 2014, as ATO of Ukraine.
Haven't you been listening to Putins speeches? They are fighting against nazis
nigga you already have all the lands,share some of it with us
anyone who isn't literally retarded knew the answer to this question since the 1990s
Yeah, Putin woke up one day and decided to invade for literally no reasons at all. At least that's what the lying press wants us to believe.
putin made nato grow stronger
That must be why Russians campaign to Germany primarily used this perfect corridor!
Oh wait. No it didn't lol.
If you think America would have ever embarked on a war of territorial aggression against Russia you are hopelessly deluded.
/thread
There was already a war on their border. They attempted to put a decisive end to it, of course it didn't work. Pulling back from the advance on Kiev in the early days was a disastrous mistake.
Yeah, Putin woke up one day and decided to invade for literally no reasons at all. At least that's what the lying press wants us to believe.
this is literally true,all of our media knows this
West building biohazard labs on their border and surrounding them to stifle their influence on their neighbors. I'd say "imagine if China did that in Mexico and Canada" but they do, and they do it here anyway, and politics is all fake and gay, but if we pretend for a second there is no NWO, then Russia's decision makes sense. Of course even in the NWO, every country is a faction fighting for dominance over a sliding mudhill. Very complicated. There are guild rules that stop total mutual annihilation, but they're free to send goys into the meatgrinder.
The west built the biggest army of europe there against russia.
Russia is extremely paranoid about an invasion from the west. I didn’t say their paranoia was founded but it doesn’t matter that it’s unfounded the paranoia still exists.
I don’t care what corridor Russia invaded Germany through you can’t deny that holding that land gives its holder a strategic advantage.
Would you rather roll your troops unmolested up to the doorstep of Moscow or fight inch by inch of trench warfare through Ukraine? Russia wants the west to have to trudge through no man’s land of the Ukrainian steppe or come through the mountains to the north. Neither is a good option
That would only be possible if Russian soldiers were in Ukraine for some reason
To demonstrate US won't do shit. They dismantled US guarantees. Or rather put last nail in the coffin after Biden started the process of US running away and Trump continued it.
Every country wants geographic barriers preventing invasion. Every country wants ports and to be able to move their goods unmolested through those ports and into their nation. Not every country is strong enough to take them.
speaking in private
It was real in Zigger minds
They didn't start it
oh, but you did, pidor
even on your meaningless map it shows the highest concentration of explosions on the Ukrainian controlled territory (red).
here are the detailed instances of the violations, OVERWHELMING russian violations on the Ukrainian government-controlled territories
osce.org
Exterminate ukrainians so jews can live in Khazaria.
Because ruzzia have big cock, bigger than Zelensky. That mean ruzzia make fuck to ukraine womans. Kill men with small penis, take land for Putin and his mighty shaft.
Let’s say the USA is Russia, Mexico is Ukraine and China is the USA.
In this scenario let’s say that Mexico is aligned with China but the northern portions of Mexico want to be aligned with the USA. The northern territories of Mexico have a vote to leave Mexico become independent and fall under the sphere of influence of the USA.
Mexico says no fuckin way bro and a civil war breaks out. Do you think usa is going to stand idols by while a civil war erupts on its border with Mexico? A civil war that China is supplying… you think we’re gonna let that happen? Or do you think we’d go kick the Mexican/Chinese army off of our border?
except the "referendum" happened after Russians invaded. Also the numbers were retarded
Russia : "90% of oblast voted"
anyone with a function brain : "wait the polls were open only for couple of hours"
Russia : "da"
anyone with a functioning brain : "so one vote per 7 seconds at each polling station?"
>prior to crimea Russia had zero deep water ports
So 200+ years ago?
Why do you retards pretend to be teaching people things?
To make Putin glued to the throne. To distract the masses, to stricten the control. Today they can fine and jail anyone for not being cheerful about the military or the government or whatever. All semblance of opposition was pushed away. They can do anything now with zero counterforce around.
what's the answer? I was born after that period
To loot kitchen appliances.
Unironically
Thats a bunch of lies, tranny faggot shill
.
Let's say it was a geopolitical opportunity.
However metawise, all I wanted to say is that US is not Russia. Doesn't mean Rush R doesn't mean it's R or L or centrist, or syncretic.
To fully fix this botched narrative here is how it should be done:
Miss Ukraine is White and not jewish.
Miss Ukraine is never a tranny woman nor a faggot.
Miss Ukraine is XX choromosomes or straight White woman.
Miss Ukraine is never a part of (((them)))
Miss Ukraine is never a khazari or an ashkenazi.
The Stella using a faggot flag here is disqualified, and a stella which is purely XX chromosome is the real version.
Now fuck off and get out of my office.
To the gulag you go
You still mad Putin wont let you near russian children?
Faggot
Oh and it just so happens that the part of Mexico that’s trying to leave has very strategically important geographic features that bolster the usa’s position on the continent. Again do we sit idly by and just watch it unfold or do we see an opportunity to better our position and stop a civil war against people who want to align with us over China?
I swear to god 90% of the world are completely ignorant to geopolitics
It’s about encirclement.
The west has been making very obvious moves to be able to eventually invade and pillage Russia for over a decade now.
The coup in Ukraine put them into an almost impossible position of either waiting for the invasion by NAFO or go on the offensive to nullify the threat.
There’s also the Russians in eastern Ukraine who were being killed by the Ukrainian government because they didn’t want to be part of a western led coup state, Putin had justification to move for their sake.
Or it could just be for the eastern oil, coal and gas or whatever else is there.
go away zigger
Regardless of the timeline of events do you think the USA is not going to get involved with a civil war on its border that China is backing the mexican gov?
vpn off hivan
Now there are muslim hurkadurkas near Russian children, and a big chunk of these children are durkas themselves or La Creatura Russistana.
>prior to crimea Russia had zero deep water ports in the Black Sea
nope, lies, pidor. they've had the Novorossiysk port and naval base since 1846, as well as
>after obtaining crimea Russia had no way to transports goods from said port into Russia over land
lies again, pootin's buddy Rotenberg built the Crimean railroad and auto bridges by May 2018.
>the geography of Eastern Europe protects Russia from invasion except for a natural funnel through Ukraine
lies again, pidor. All the wars russia conducted with Western Europe were through Poland, Belarus and the Baltics ... nowhere near Ukraine.
>whoever controls Ukraine controls this geographical funnel
see above
>if the west controls it the west can March right into Russia through flat ground.
look at the topographical maps, retard. if it was all "flat ground" why didn't pootin take Ukraine in two weeks (being the second army in the world)
>if Russia wants to March into the west they have to first go across all of the Ukrainian steppe
see above retard. the steppe is in the south east on the border with russia, after that there are plenty of natural barriers, but you have to know geography and not be a retard such as yourself.
>this is a bad position to be in if you’re Russia bc it’s a strictly defensive position
>if Russia controls Ukraine the west is in that defensive position.
this is just some more meaningless nonsense trying to justify russia's aggressive imperialistic war.
Russia annexed crimea in what 2012?
Since the fall of the ussr Russia has to land its import goods and ship its export goods through a port that another country controls and over land that another country controls. To further the issue none of russias deep water ports outside of the Black Sea are warm water ports meaning they freeze in the winter. This is not a strong position especially when you rely heavily on exported oil.
My personal guess is some sort of prediction of massive unrest domestically that could unseat Putin so the solution by the playbook is to go to war
What this exactly was might not be easily known
NAFO CIA lies, Putin is the only democraticly elected leader in the world. There is a reason he gets 99.9% of the votes every election. Because he is a true leader and every single russian loves him.
Must be.
Russian children are meant for the Jewish and churka elite friends of Putin to enjoy. Average puccian can enjoy the trenches instead.
*special military operation
But is correct. Most foreigners seem to think of the war in terms of grand strategy video games. The main objectives of the war for the current Russian administration are internal to Russia. The ressources in eastern Ukraine are the secondary objective, as well as easier international shipping.
I seriously hoped Anon Babble wouldn't fall for the retardation of the perpetually moving irredentist claims but that was too much. Now Lavrov and the likes are doing the same weirdo rewriting of history about Baltic states.
they didnt, but they are going to finish it
covid
some of the most fertile lands in the world.
its all contaminated and toxic unfortunately, the grain they grow is only good for consumptions by niggers.
another chelyabinsk enjoyer I see? to the bus mikola
it’s hopelessly contamined with Ukrainians…
that would only be valid comparison if Choina supported mexico after an actuall invasion
stand idols
least retarded Russian
I thought thinking Russians were extinct. I owe you an apology.
Novorossiysk port
Insignificant
built railways in 2018
Railways that went through another country
prior wars happened through bel and Poland
Hard to march through that open ground to the south when someone else holds it huh?
why didn’t he take it in two weeks
You have to control that flat ground for it to be an advantage numb nuts
the steppe is in the south east
Yes and it makes a funnel into Moscow go down and under the mountains. Again do you want to control the funnel or you adversary?
trying to justify
I’m not trying to justify anything. I never said the invasion was just, only that it’s not so much about Putin being crazy or trying to rid Ukraine of nazis.
Their corrupted GRU 'church' promises heaven for murderers of White people.
The west supported and supplied the Ukraine prior to russian invasion do you not remember the impeachment of trump for the quid pro quo, do you not remember Biden bragging about using weapons as a tool to get Ukraine to do what he wants?
Again imagine this is China Mexico USA
8 posts already
Fuck OFF shill.
That is still only after 2014
It really comes down to the fact that they thought it'd be easy. Why wouldn't you take over another country if you thought you could. Beyond that it's resources and emotions, none of what they publicly state as being the reason(s) they invaded has anything to do with. They weren't scared NATO, they don't care about the people of the Donbas, Denazification is just a marketing slogan for their domestic audience and so and so forth.
Fuck off. For all the reasons I listed, I don’t want Russia holding that land. I’m not advocation for Russia in any way shape or form. I’m actually advocating for why I don’t want Russia having that land. Now I’m not going to send my son to protect it but I don’t mind my taxes going towards hindering Russian military readiness by bogging them down in the very funnel I was describing. It’s a huge advantage to hold that land.
The point is banan.
Russia invaded in 2020 prior they were doing the same thing we were doing and if you don’t think we had operators in Ukraine prior to 2020 you’re dreaming… we fucking instigated the 2012 coup for crying out loud.
Ok globohomo faggot
The ROC and UOC were shut down with ZERO trials or evidence. The new OCU is run by the state, meaning a jew is currently running the christian church in ukraine.
Families of men lost in combat cannot even have church funerals as the ultimate humiliation ritual.
That has nothing to do with anything anon said. Now if Russia did (((regime change))) in Panama, you can bet the USA would invade.
Chief monke started the war to revitalize NATO and speed up Ukraines entry into the EU..yes hes a western agent...
La Creatura Russistana.
They don’t understand it’s not a perfect corridor to fight through. It’s a perfect corridor to make someone else fight through. The holder of the corridor has strategic advantages. Period.
Russia invaded in 2020 prior they were doing the same thing we were doing
I’m not advocation for Russia in any way shape or form
kys fucking nigger here is the monke himself admitting
i hope your son dies
U.S. goaded them into it so they could test out new weapons systems and tactics.
Russia invaded in 2020
They also sent troops in 2014, not just to Crimea but also to the Donbas.
I notice that pro-Ukrainians are always malding and angry, what gives?
you mean 2014?
Also you didn't. unless the US has some psyop machine that can convince happy people to protest against its own goverment....that it doesn't use against Russia because....???
Would usa send troops to Mexico in the same scenario?
I’m sorry I just don’t see most conflicts as good guy bad guy.
Russian troops have been in Crimea for hundreds of years, shit for brains.
stop invading yourself!
Hitler drove them off briefly
Would usa send troops to Mexico in the same scenario?
The US rarely intervenes on behalf of proxy forces it supports.
We’ve been using it against the ussr since the end of ww2. Or did you not notice that the former Soviet states all align with the west now? Are you not abreast of the color revolutions in Eastern Europe brought on by the cia throughout the Cold War?
The US rarely intervenes on behalf of proxy forces it supports.
)))
They intervened three times in the Balkans alone.
Yeah only like once every 2 years
again...why not use it on Russia....or China for that mater if it works
Spoiler aller you didn't. My own country simply got tiredof the soviet bullshit
China aids with coup in Mexico. Coup just happens to align Mexico more with China than with USA. Northern part of Mexico doesn’t want to be under Chinas sphere of influence wants instead to be under usa influence. Do u think usa would listen to muh referendum was rigged? Or do u think usa would rig a referendum and use it as a pretext to invade to protect the poor northern Mexicans from the evil new Mexican regime that was going to allow China to be on our southern border? Cmon man I’m not saying everything Russia claims is legitimate I’m saying usa would make the same claims.
We fucking did for fucks sake, Russia has lost a quarter of its land since ww2
We’ve used it on your stupid country multiple times.
All of these excuses and malding and seething and talking about Mexico instead of just admitting
Yes, we are an imperialist country
Yes, we use our peasants as cannon fodder
What u gon do about it, western man?
You see, I want them to go completely mask off, to reveal what they really are, instead of recruiting losers /schizophrenics/VPNfarms,
I could respect them a bit more if they did.
you are not fooling anyone you fucking retard
Not even for three hundred years.
Nah, they don't get involved really. They do do wars but when it comes to proxy forces, whether that's Islamists in Syria, Kurds, Mujahedeen, anti-communist forces in various south American countries they really just leave them to their own devices.
I don't think the US would care if the President of Mexico was ousted by the Parliament or whatever they have there. That's what happened in Ukraine.
We tried a different tact with China. Instead of cia color revolutions and Marshall plan $ we decided to give them our manufacturing thinking the increased economy would cause the people to get a taste for freedom and the people would throw off the commies. It’s one of the biggest blunders in American geopolitical history. They should have done to them what they did to Russia and try to fragment and ostracize its vassals.
No you didn't. If you did you would use it on choina and russia now
Yes Russia is an imperialist country I think I made it quite clear they want to expand their territory and influence.
So is the USA tho and USA has the same motivations and every country used its peasants as cannon fodder this is a tale as old as time
the people did get a taste of freedom and wanted to change the regime but the rulers were afraid they'd collapse like the USSR
every country is the same now elites using their slaves to fight wars
Cia color revolutions aren’t used in large stable nations it’s used in their vassals.
Syria, Kurds, Mujahedeen, anti-communist forces in various south American countries they really just leave them to their own devices
Are you really pretending the west didnt arm all those people and send them pallets of cash?
And again we’ve caused regime change in your shitty country multiple times.
No.
multiple? LOL
no you didn't. Keep dreaming
So is the USA tho
Completely irrelevant to the discussion about russia, which is why schizos like you constantly comparing them are clearly influenced.
There is too many niggers
But Kenya has them too!
There’s usually jews involved someway or another.
I dont know but a million dead russians is a good start
WAAAAAAA WAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA they're fighting for their interest only we can do that!!
This talk is so annoying, doesn't matter if Serbs, Russians, Americans or anyone else do it.
What a shock that the biggest country in the world is imperialist.
you started it, you are also losing it.
>WAAAAAAA WAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I accept your concession.
What JEWSA does is irrelevant to russias crimes.
What Bosnian niggers did is irrelevant to serbianiggers crimes.
So you are pretending the USA didnt give the mujahadeen stinger missiles?
They turned the tide against those huge russian helicopter gunships.
We gave your country to the commies to make them easier to control and then our cia aided with the velvet revolution.
Your country got played like a fiddle post ww2 read some fucking books for fucks sake.
So you are pretending the USA didnt give the mujahadeen stinger missiles?
No.
Because this is what a typical courtyard in russia looks like.
War is better than living in this shit.
Exactly my point. Good guy bad guy in conflict is most of the time a propagandized take. The rational take is nations want strategic advantages on the world stage. Period.
Because they want back the eastern european countries which was in urss
They also want Moldavia and baltic countries
Step by step
What was Black Lives Matter
Moron
He won't tell you they blame boomers for not transmit anything to their childrens but they let you rot in ignorance.
putin was told, and many in the west believed, it was going to be an easy win.
it was not.
is that a fact?
Yea Russians lost the cold war, they want to regain the influence, even partially, US wants to stop them through coups and economic measures, in another words sky is blue.
I am glad we agree russia is an imperialist nation of asiatic shitkins hellbent on destroying european civilization for their own benefit.
glad you shill for them, your ancestors and children surely are proud.
What a massive faggot you are
cia.gov
The Stinger missiles supplied by the United States gave Afghan guerrillas, generally known as the Mujahideen, the ability to destroy the dreaded Mi-24D helicopter gunships deployed by the Soviets to enforce their control over Afghanistan. Three of the first four Stingers fired each took down a gunship. The guerrillas were now able to challenge Soviet control of the airspace above the battlefield. Mujahideen morale soared as Soviet losses mounted. By 1989, the Soviet Union had concluded that the fight was not worth the cost and withdrew from the country.
they want to regain the influence
They can do this through means that dont involve murdering europeans by the hundred thousands.
No, he is not pretending, you fucking ESL retardnigger
Exactly the USSR was a global power. After losing all that territory they were reduced to a regional power. Meaning they can only really project force in their immediate region. Russia wants to be a global power again like the USA that can project force anywhere on the globe. This isn’t hard to figure out and if you were Russian you’d want the same thing.
Again not justifying anything at all just stating the obvious. Anyone who pretends to not understand this is a shill or retarded.
Globohomo cant meme
/thread
factual.
jewish comedian can't compete
This is so tiresome
probably the continous missile & drone bombings on civilian infrastructure
/thread
No, nigger, "The Russia" is not and will never be an equivalent to the US in these terms, because US interventions dont produce 1 million dead white europeans.
no, it must be FAFO propaganda discords.
Ukraine lost the cold war too, moron
Read the thread, we're talking about whether or not the US intervenes directly on behalf of its proxy forces. I think that in most cases they do not. Obviously they support their proxy forces in other ways, they wouldn't be proxies otherwise.
I am glad we agree russia is an imperialist nation of asiatic shitkins hellbent on destroying european civilization for their own benefit.
Yes we completely do agree on this fact. I don’t understand how you think I was saying anything different.
You’re just using more colorful emotional words than I am to describe the same thing. And your mad I won’t emotionally charge my words and explain the same concept as you rationally.
you are correct
areas have the right to secede, and third parties can come to their aid for several justified reasons
They can do this through means that dont involve murdering europeans by the hundred thousands.
tf
tp
It was during ww2 and it want to regain that status why is this so hard to understand?
We can all see how much good that did for us.
Then maybe they should stop acting as natives on the imageboard and instead as refugees that fled.
I understand sadness, anger but this impotent malding is one of the lowest things you can fall to and they should be looked down on.
Russians call any change of government a 'coup' when it doesn't suit russia. Fact is Ukranians wanted to go the route of Poland which means integrating with the rest of Europe and joining the EU. Why? Its simple as pic related. Poles from eastern Poland used to migrate to Ukraine in search of emplyment.
Lets praise Russia for bringing back WW2 standards of human and state interactions because we are mad at NATO
genius, bratan, genius.
>It wants to
Therefor I shill for it
you do you
they should be looked down on.
Now you know why serbians get mocked on the webzzz sometimes. just one more step of logical thinking and you will reach human form.
It started with pidors invading Crimea and lying how it's not their soldiers.
But for some mysterious reason pidors don't like to remember that.
Now you know why serbians get mocked on the webzzz sometimes
Implying I don't get second hand embarrassment when they start crying about how the world works.
Lets praise Russia for bringing back WW2 standards of human and state interactions because we are mad at NATO
genius, bratan, genius.
I don't praise Russia but that's the only card they've been able to play. They tried others and failed, they're simply outdone on diplomatic and economic level, they admit to this.
Russians call any change of government a 'coup' when it doesn't suit russia.
Everyone does this.
I can't believe anyone could be this retarded. This must be some kind of ironic demoralisation psyop. Impressive.
nope, pidor. not even close, and it will never be an equal.
May 21, 2024 "US military launches unarmed intercontinental ballistic missile on 4,200-mile test flight. The missile launched from Vandenberg Space Force Base in California, sending a single reentry vehicle 4,200 miles (6,760 kilometers) to impact in the U.S. Army's Ronald Reagan Ballistic Missile Defense Test Site in the Kwajalein Atoll, which is part of the Marshall Islands."
Do you really think the US regularly sends thousands of soldiers, artillery, IFVs and tanks to support their proxies? Rhetorical question, don't answer that.
Oh please.
NATO is pretending they are not directly involved.
design missiles
produce missiles
pay for missiles
deliver missles
send techs to program missiles
missiles guided by NATO's AI and sattelites
But but but we had a ukrainian push the red button!
What some people here called a coup in 2014 was followed by a free country wide elections (except the donbass under occupation) that put Poroshenko in power and his government was recognized by the Russian federation. That is not a coup by any definition of the word.
isn't Ukraine the same or do you think you're Polish?
Thats cool and all milosh but all you did is call my flag out. Only after I directly asked you if you actually want to return to WW2 logic you said
they were too incompetent for anything else
So now they are meatwaving again.
This is normal, all countries do it, its just geopolitics bro
retard
Caue Nazis, even tho his own country is full of them
Poland and Ukraine were basically on equal footing regarding development in the 90's. One joined the EU and NATO the other remained in the Russian sphere.
The results are clear, see
Globohomo cant meme, and cant war
Globohomo
what's that, 2022? we're the woke crowd now, remember?
en.wikipedia.org
That is how proxies work. There's a difference between that and direct involvement. North Korea and the US are not at the same level of involvement in the war in Ukraine.
Fucking lies
Everyone tried to vote there was a ceasefire and 900 international observers and CNN and other news crews everywhere. Kiev then refused to send ballots to Donetsk so the seperatists stopped voting and the last chance of peace was lost.
Fake news faggot
Moscow regime
invaded BPR and KPR
to genocide
Belgorodian and Kursian people
all of it is true btw, I was there and I *PERSONALLY* and *LITERALLY* executed disabled russian-speaking Donbass orphans in cancer wards.
I’m not shilling for or against anything. Simply trying to explain Russian motivation. Op asked a question. I’m trying to give an answer based on my knowledge of the situation. I do not believe I have advocated for or against Russia. My only real point is.
BREAKING NEWS!!!!
A major world power wants more power and influence on the world stage and uses violence to achieve those ends.
More at 11.
It’s a non story.
It’s like everyone thinks the world just started in 1990 or something. This has been going on ever since humans began farming. Acknowledging that fact is in no way condoning it. All you anons trying to make it seem as though I am in any way condoning the actions of any war through all of history just by acknowledging how the world works and what drives wars must be shills. No one can be this dense. This is like when moas red guard killed anyone with an education. Except you don’t kill the educated you just misconstrue their words and pile on big enough and load enough to deter any type of meaningful conversation about how to avoid wars. I hate wars, they are disgusting no matter why they are waged. But there is a simple truth in the world that is unchanged over 12k yrs.
Vae Victis
You don’t have to like it but it’s true.
You are a perfect example of the globohomo education system
You are reddispacing pidor shill
get a job, loser
black sea port, too poor to developed the siberia and ukraine possesses, among other things, vital land for crops. Russia can not waiver here, or she loses significant wartime capabilities. So much so, do not doubt Putin will deal Iran for such land
invading soil with 99% own population
invading
Anyway, I’ve got to go mow my lawn.
It’s been fun though. Hope some people learned something.
Why do you faggots hate truths?
what do you expect pidor? russia violated the Budapest memorandum by invading Ukraine and we are just fulfilling our part of the agreement by helping Ukraine defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity.
Because this is a preferable state of affairs to what existed before
if your jewish masters tell you to, then you do it. Your jewish masters told you to declare wars both times over trivial matters and drag in your black friends, hence turning it into a World War. Britain started both world wars for their jewish masters, so why haven't you caught on yet?
Yes, invading with soldiers without any insignia while lying how it's not your soldiers at all.
Also 99% population of BPR are Ukrainians. Look, I can pull numbers out of my ass too.
Kiev then refused to send ballots to Donetsk so the seperatists stopped voting
If everyone in the occupied territories voted it wouldn't change the elections. Poroshenko won in a landslide with over 55% of the vote, the second best candidate got 13%
Moreover why would literal separatists, as you call them, want to vote in an election of a country they claim they're separating from? Moroever how do you hold elections in an area not under government control? Talk about fake news.
like or not, international law and maritime law is the name of the game, and Russia lost there. Putin will never leave Russia, deny the power of the ability to carve out nations all you like, the reality remains
crying yet? ^_^
99% own population
kek, delusional lying pidor.
You just hate Kurskians because you are jewish
Words have meaning. I know it's the instinct of some to use words regardless of their meaning to give their rhetoric more impact but that's going to be lost on anyone who doesn't already agree with you. That's all that's happening here. I'm just laying out the widely agreed definitions of what these words and concepts are.
Mongol rape genes combined with ten generations of fetal alcohol syndrome making them genetically incapable of building a prosperous, peaceful society.
It's like taking a schizophrenic junkie stabbing people on the subway and expecting them to become a model citizen if you treat them nicely for a while.
Also 99% population of BPR
After NATO intervention, its about 30% Boris Johnson
jewish law and world bank law
fixed it for you, everything else is game of distraction
Shostky people hate Kiev regime and SPR bombed Kiev facility the other day. Cope
You are a lying piece of shit paid to be here
cnn.com
In the city of Donetsk, the regional capital where pro-Russia militias are concentrated, there were no open polling stations, local officials said earlier.
A CNN team driving through the city Sunday morning was not able to see a single polling station in operation. However, there were signs some voters were trying to go to polling stations in areas west and south of the city.
Besides the presidential race, candidates are also running in municipal elections in some cities. The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe deployed 900 observers for the election – the largest such mission in its history.
Kurskian and Belgorodian people
just want to have a referendum
but jews from Moscow regime invaded them
to genocide everyone there
More civil wars are soon to follow
Shostki people
just want to have a referendum
but jews from Kiev regime invaded them
to genocide everyone there
More civil wars are soon to follow
>In the city of Donetsk, the regional capital where pro-Russia militias are concentrated, there were no open polling stations, local officials said earlier.
NO SHIT, IT WAS OCCUPIED BY SEPARATISTS.
You're a dumb fucking retard that can't do basic math. Even if EVERYONE in the city of Donetsk (less than ~1 million people) voted against Poroshenko it would NOT change the RESULTS of the election. Fucking retard quoting CNN at me like its making ANY fucking point, this is what having two digid IQ looks like.
To save Russian citizens from genocide.
Hohols be like:
We only killed 21 of your nation civilians in 2021. Why you attack us???!!!??!
(by 2021 most people in Donetsk and Luhansk had Russian citizenship)
>We only killed 21 of your nation civilians in 2021. Why you attack us???!!!??!
And how many did the SMO kill, you fucking retard?
why the fuck russian soldiers where in ukraine?
n-n-no y-y-y-ou!
Begging for (You)'s again, pidor? lmao
Russia has their noooks remember? Any worry of invasion is completely delusional. Their threats of launching nukes over some village in eastern Ukraine is laughable, but there's no reason to think they wouldn't launch them if there where western tanks rolling up on Moscow and all was really lost. Why would anyone risk that to acquire some frozen thundra and a hundred million poorly educated dumbasses that are now their responsibility? I doubt Russia could willingly give away most of their land except maybe something like the Caucasus oil fields.
So Putin can keep in power. That is literally all politics is about and where everything stems from, is a group of people or person trying to keep in power. Look up what was happening in Russia before 2014 invasion of Crimea, they were having protests constantly from 2011-2013
I already proved you are a lying cocksucker, just go away.
There was a ceasefire
CNN news crews and 900 observers saw it.
Lie all you want, faggot, you cant change facts.
And what happened to Poroshenko the WEF/IMF puppet? Zelenski put him on ukraines murder/death/kill list and Russia siezed his chocolate factories.
What did you prove? That you have a sub 80IQ? Can't even follow the thread? That you're barely literate?
You have to be retarded to bot understand it, ukrainians are literal subhuman vermin and killing them is the right thing to do
Here's some actual history for you retards:
Putin started to become increasingly autocratic right off the bat in the early 2000s. Part of this was having a puppet in Ukraine you might know, yanukovich, which he heavily pushed ahead of the elections in 2004, to the point of literally travelling to Ukraine and having a military parade. That backfired heavily and made Ukrainians do literally the opposite of what he wanted. Even his attempts of poisoning yanukovichs opponent didn't help.
This is where Putins seethe about Ukraine began. And where things within Ukraine get complicated. While yanukovich didn't win, he did win the follow-up election.
How he did it was two ways: He pretended to be more western, and the opponent was involved with yushenko the then president who kind of fucked up his term. So it yanukovich won and thus putin. The end right?
Well no, since yanukovich ALSO kept fucking up and dropped his charade of being pro western so that it was obvious to the last retard they were duped. This culminated in the 2014 protests where yanukovich fled to him and putin realized it's over for him trying to subtly influence Ukraine, and decided to use force instead. This started with some bullshit referendum on crimea after shipping in troops and also shipping in insurgents and weapons into eastern Ukraine who proclaimed some bullshit independent republic. Why this was possible? Well, eastern Ukraine was always more pro Russian than western Ukraine, so they didn't really care too much, it was mostly peaceful annexation.
Now Ukraine in turn elected the most anti Russian president in their history, who then wanted to quell the eastern independence bullshit, as any self respecting nation would want to do. This wasn't as easy as expected since Russia provided steady support to the insurgents and Poroshenko basically failed, leading to a more or less frozen front.
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Things seemed to calm down, people got tired of the conflict and a more pro peaceful pro Russian president zelensky was elected.
Before the events of 2022, the conflict in the Donbas was basically a big nothingburger with like 8 causalties per month.
And well, putin wasn't satisfied with having crimea and the stalemate situation, started building up troops, and you know the rest when he finally invaded despite lying to everybody how it's nothing to be worried about and the west is just hysterical.
landgrab
Do shitkrainians believe this? To the person who actually knows about shitkrainian politics or actually followed the events this is laughably bad.
russia was always the bad guy
who invaded poland from the east, starting world war 2?
hint: it wasn't the germans protecting their border
who invaded east of Europe after ww2 anyways, and pushed towards central Europe?
hint: it wasn't anglo saxons
who invaded georgia
who invaded autonomous chechnya multiple times for over a century
who implemented puppet regimes after the rightful destruction of the soviet union
running out of hints here.
open your fucking eyes
Lebensraum and a blood ritual sacrifice for the (((oligarchs))) as planned by (((Shelomova))) and his skullcap goons.
You didn't hear?
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Man... off-topic with the Russia-Ukraine war thing.
Why are you asking me why I support Far Right, and me taking over the world under a Far Right National Socialist (non-groyper) lens or scope? Is it that hard to understand?
They thought it would be easy 1-2 month war. If they could turn back time they would not attack.
Something about destroying nazis because their president is Jewish and chief in command is Russian and also because nazis are bad so they have killed 1 millions of slavs there from both sides to let millions of browns into Russia and something something about family values and traditions
Why did YOU start this stupid war?
the grain they grow is only good for consumptions by niggers
I have some terrific news for you regarding russians my friend!
Russians aren't the smartest slavs around
Zero replies except my own.
What was the point?
To make Putin feel like he is great legendary leader. Same shit what every dictator want.
You start a little war to practice for a big war and keep it going until the big war starts to keep your army fighting ready.
13,000+ ethnic minority Russians were killed in Donbass
Not true, and it was actually Russia funded rusbots who were causing trouble and they did precisely what Putin wanted so he could invade Ukraine.
Because fuck liberals and non-whites.
I guess they wanted to unite civilised Europe.
Thanks. But we already knew you are a bunch of seething niggers that admires daddy Putin the chosen criminal puppet.
It was the us psyop machine not the brutal repression and censorship and a general disregard of human rights that made soviet sattelite states want to align with the west and not join the russians after their inevitable collapse
truly 1000 iq thinking right here
Your country got played like a fiddle post ww2 read some fucking books for fucks sake.
okay, so you are just trolling, i understand
Why
Because putin's puppet was removed by force with the usage of radicals that were curated by CIA.
Later the color revolution transformed into anti-russian regime, repressions and killings of civilians on the base of their ethnicity and amassing military power directly armed by the west.
Since civilian nature of Ukraine political life degrade into foreign backed militias, Putin decided to do the same crap.
Unfortunately instead of freezing the conflict, western countries decided to fortify and create a million people army to forcefully purge rebel regions supported by Russia.
Putin decided he has no other option but to disperse these western backed regiments with mostly his own invasion, mostly decorative in nature. He wanted to repeat the Crimea event, he was fed lies by corrupt intelligent officers. The nature if Putin's regime is that everybody is telling him what he wants to hear, so he was fed with fairy tails. He did not prepared enough forces, because he didn't expect any resistance. He also severely underestimated willingness of western countries and Ukrainian gov to sacrifice lots of people, because western powers also had a delusion about their superiority that was hardly based on anything but wishful thinking.
Putin didn't expected that Istanbul peace talks would amount to nothing but Boris's 'let's just fight lol' when he ordered a retreat.
Putin was retarded enough thinking it could be resolved through peace at that time.
His current reluctance to allow ceasefire is coming from the same mistakes in the past. He remembers Minsk, he remembers Istanbul, he does not trust the other side.
Unfortunately only Trump can end this war, because he is the only person whose word Putin might listen.
Ukrainians and EU politicians he wouldn't trust anymore.
This war is manifestation of both sides arrogance and malice
Man, you had some good things in there, too bad some of is completely warped by nonsense vatnik propaganda.
I am very glad to see russia is again approaching the
Its not us who is total dogshit, its EVERYONE who is total dogshit!
metodichka.
What was the point?
to stop globohomo which they succeeded. people noticed the huge inflation and elected trump
the EU globohomos had to shift their focus from a DEI and tranny dominated economy to a war economy
as a result the system has to back down because pushing tranny degeneracy during a recession would gloriously backfire
To destroy Ukraine (Hopefully)
He doesn't need a war to do that.
Rare to see honest opinions here these days
said the 29 post tranny faggot paid to be here
Brainrot.
21 pbdid
So youre getting 2/3rd of my salary or...?
50 hrivnyas
That’s like 0.00003 eur
keep seething hohols
kill fake russniggers to replace them with actual russNIGGERS
he accidentally reveals what he gets to own the cryptohohol
lmao cant make this shit up
They recovered territory, deceased nafo strategically made Europe poorer and exhibited the uk as war mongers. I think even though putini is a monke he won and only had to fire one oreshnik. He knows you won't do shit i the worse a terrorist attack and that is doubtful by how cucked things looks right now.
Because ya shut off the water to Crimea.
I mean if we're talking direct causes.
That shit was just such a stupid act that literally forced them into action>"But muh justification!"
Irrelevant as insufficient water == death, meaning you might as well have attacked them directly as it would have caused the exact same thing.
the serbian is a non law abiding animal, as he always was, unsurprisingly
the person who actually knows about shitkrainian politics or actually followed the events
Post flag
To save nazism from ukrainians
Pretending a court with no jurisdiction has anything to do with law is retarded globalist cope.
Because ya shut off the water to Crimea.
But now since Kakhovka dam is destroyed and North Crimea Canal is not working there won't be any water in any foreseeable future.
Eh, you're not doing well enough on the battlefield for that to be true, but yeah you did hit them hard with that move.
Desalinisation and external water supplies are expensive as hell, which is part of why i'm mildly surprised Putin is stalling on the peace deal stuff.
And also that's the reason they wanted that land corridor so bad, so you could argue that shit backfired a bit.
Eh, you're not doing well enough on the battlefield for that to be true
What? The dam is destroyed. It won't be rebuild in decades even if someone starts to rebuilding it now. Without the dam, there is no water in Crimea.
They had 12 years to build desalinization facilities but still didn't make them.
If it ain't literally dying of drought then we know they are somehow managing, i ain't an expert on Russian internal (dys)functioning so the exact hows i dunno.
But as i said there are various options, besides desalinisation is so easy even sandniggers like Gaddafi could make it work so i simply do not know whether your claim is true.
Slavs aren’t white
They restricted it to the former USSR, lmao
right because dams are impossible to build
They think ukraine will just blow it up again, retard