SAAAAAAR PLEASE RESPECT US SAAAAAAR

Yes they will, like the short-sighted savants they are, and then... haha, then they'll figure out what to do next.

Most European countries are under literal US military occupation, more US troops in Iceland than China has in NK.

Do you realize China is actually a critical supplier and producer of almost everything while you only ever glue your brand on chinese leather bags and resell it at ten times the price.
Europe doesn't produce anything of value, it's just the same marketing driven overpriced fake blob of nothing every other western country economy is.
Don't try to compare yourself to China.

Maybe they shouldn't have waited until literally 7 minutes before the announcement that tariffs are cancelled except for everyone who raised tariffs against us for them to roll out the announcement that they are raising tariffs against the US. Now they get to pay the bitch tax.

The EU is a bureaucracy. All actually decisions are made by Germany, France and Italy. So all the EU bureaucrats can call for is “respect” as they cannot call for negotiations as they are not in charge.

Reminder for everyone who can't understand basic concepts - you need us to buy your products. We don't need you to buy anything.

Kek, the mutt said the cope.

After all these years, Trump still manages to freak people out.
Thank you America for giving us the best reality show on earth.

tell me mutt boy, what happens in an economy if there's a lot of money and no goods in circulation

Noooooooooo he's bluffing!!!!!!

KWAB. With a single word,they showcased who is the real Sheriff of this world,even china has more balls than europoor.

Most European countries are under literal US military occupation, more US troops in Iceland than China has in NK.

i don´t disagree with you.

They tried to do the same thing here in 64, and failed miserably.

China is mostly the place where final assembly happens. They can't even produce modern electronics without importing shit from other countries.

Europe doesn't produce anything of value,

The EU produces 15% of world manufacturing output. Companies like Airbus and ASML have no equal in the world. We're not Russians over here.

China is mostly the place where final assembly happens. They can't even produce modern electronics without importing shit from other countries.

What the fuck you're talking about? China imports some high-end RAM, CPUs and GPUs, otherwise it's pretty much Chinese all the way down to raw metals.

China

assemble only

KEK

Europeans are retarded.
Everybody knows that you give them money, then they use that money to pay to Chinese, Arabs and us.
Without your subsidizing their economy they wouldn't be able to buy even most basic shit like gaz or a smartphone, because like hell they would ever be able to achieve parity on trade with China or resources exporting countries, they just don't produce anything of value to us, they just don't. Only you buy their shit basically.

China still can not produde modern chips and sources them from Taiwan. They can't make reliable modern jet engines either which is why all the largest Chinese airliners fly either Airbus or Boeing. They can't even build an iPhone without sourcing parts from the US, Korea, Japan, Taiwan, etc. China is the largest market for advanced machine tools from Germany, they still can't make comparable ones.

China only made domestic ballpoint pens for the first time in 2017. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Meanwhile a single European company, ASML, controls the entire market on advance litography machines used to make modern chips, something the Chinese have been trying to copy, and failing, for the past 20 years

China production of high-end chips is still too small

China imports civilian airlienrs engines

Congratulation on listing the two industrial goods China doesn't produce completely and entirely domestically, kek.

Isn't this cope a bit too stupid?

Europe still has ASML

Even when SCMI has developed its own lithography machinery on part with ASML, it is still not producing it in large enough numbers, give it a some 2 - 3 years before chips become like cars.

China is mostly the place where final assembly happens.

China is where everything is made. It's the only country that earns money through actual industry aside from some anomalies like Taiwan, South Korea and Japan.
The US is basically prints money, then distributes these money to shitters, then they pay these money to China and resources producing countries like ours. The whole 'golden billion' of the west is the US charity.
If the US stops free flow of dollars to these countries they would become poor shitholes in mere years, because they would be forced to cut their imports at least twice and then the inflation will evaporate all their domestic purchasing power and real estate prices. That would be recession of the kind world haven't seen yet.

Congratulation on listing the two industrial goods China doesn't produce completely and entirely domestically, kek.

They literally made their first ballpoint pen in 20-fucking-17, lmao.

Even when SCMI has developed its own lithography machinery on part with ASML,

Which is why you have to lie and make up shit. There's nothing, absolutely nothing, in China that produced EUV machines anywhere close to ASML. They can't buy ASML machines either which is why they can't make modern chips.

Which is why they import them from Taiwan, lmao.

You don't know what you're talking about becasuse you're an idiot who lives of narratives. The USA, EU, Japan, South Korea, etc. account for the majority of world manufacturing output.

The chinese are literally the largest market for german machine tools lmao. Assembly plant.

Hahahha, let me laugh at the 3rd good China used to not make up completly domestically, see, they only made it in 2017 haha

Kek

It's no real, nothing China does will ever get close to our glorious machine, China cannot developed of invent, reeeeeeeee

You still can export two industrial goods China needs, soon it'll become one (only jet engines) and soon it'll become zero. I wonder what the cope will be.

Reeeeeeeee, USA, EU, Japan, South Korea, etc. produces...

They don't, they don't produce 1/5 of China does in most goods, but sales of industrial goods are huge in these countries.

How does it feel being a retarded sub 80 IQ monkey?

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee, if we look at how many money was made selling industrial goods, then China is the leader, but it's not that impressive.

If we look on the amount of goods produced, instead of how many shekels were made selling products (specially the US and the EU just do the final assembly), the story is a bit different.

So, let's start by looking on industrial goods, one by one, begining with the basics.

Soviet Union

European Union

TPP

TTIP

Planned American Union

Fucking zionists and their constant bullshit social clubs to try and Lord over everyone and make their lives shitty by creating policies that make everyone's lives harder like mass migration with media/academia contempt building leading to inevitable race wars. Or over regulating farmers and their wares to inevitably starve everyone. Or label anyone that doesn't blindly follow your bad policies and oppression as extremist, mentally unwell, blah blah. It's always the same bullshit and nations keep letting it fucking happen. All the west is suffering from their shit. Many Asian nations now. Anywhere with a unregulated unaudited zionist owned central bank.

muh steel

This isn't the 19th century anymore. Now show me the Chinese EUV machines used to manufacture modern chips.

The Netherlands' ASML remains the only producer of EUV lithography machines, essential for advanced chip manufacturing. ASML, the Dutch semiconductor equipment giant, holds a monopoly on EUV (Extreme Ultraviolet) lithography machines, which are necessary for producing chips at 7nm and below

I guess you won't, lmao

Reeeeeee, steel doesn't count... because... only the single machine Europe can still produce and China doesn't count

Calm down, we are taking a trip through all industrial goods, from the most basic, to the most complex.

Now, for a 2nd, let's look at cement.

You don't know what you're talking about becasuse

I actually do.
All your surplus trade with the US is spend on paying Chinese, arabs and us.
What money would you pay for shit if US stops buying your overpriced luxury (chinese made btw) shit? Euros? Nobody wants euros.
You have trade deficite of 300 billions with China. You get this money from the US. Without US, your buying power will collapse.
When you will be forced to cut imports from China, they will cut your exports the same way, because they only ever buy your shit, because you buy twice as much from them, they will never trade equally with you. This will further lower the supply of money to your economy. And you still would need the same amount of money to pay for energy and other mineral resources since you have none of your own.
European economy will collapse without the US.

All your surplus trade with the US is spend on paying Chinese, arabs and us.

us

Lmao this retard thinks Russia is any kind of player. I enjoy seeing you pretend to know shit about anything. Fucking Slovakia produces more automobiles than Russia, lmao. Nobody wants Euro's that's why its the second largest reserve currency in the world, lmao. China can't even operate a factory without importing machine tools from Europe, can't even make a fucking fridge without importing chips from Taiwan, lmao.

But dumb retards like you will keep pretending.

muh steel

muh cement

Its like I'm playing Victoria 2 and trying to industrialize in 1836. Brazilian monkey, get a grip.

It's like my hecking vydia... steel and cement doesn't count as industry, ok?

Then, for our third stop, we can look at clothes.

if you believe this is the case then copy it

Mafia demands respect from Cosa Nostra because their corrupt crime syndicate is older.

china

does that include the newspapers, Styrofoam banana peels and old amazon boxes they use as aggregate? youve seen the videos

He literally made the holy trifecta lmao. Steel, Concrete and Clothing. Please bring up Liquor factories!

Spin up those textile mills, that what the future is all about! Surely China is a leader in these categories because of their superiori technological and cultural developments and has nothing to do with shit wages and slave-like working conditions. I mean, China and Bangladesh, controling the worlds clothing supply. We're doomed!

Don't forget the suicide net productions! That's real industy! None of that bullshit high-tech shit like EUV machines or CNC machines. Small time! Chink stronk!

Reddit space

Some made up mutt crap

It doesn't include virtually all clothes wore in the US and the EU, with or without local brand logos.

I enjoy seeing you pretend to know shit about anything

Okay. You enjoy your Smarphone, your PC, you electricity and internet. All of this originates not in Europe. You need dollars to buy this. You get this dollars from favorable trade with the US. If the US stopped trading with you favorably, please explain, where are you going to get those 300-400 billions annually, that you lack at the moment. And how are you going to prevent your citizens from buying these things that they are used to buy?
I will explain to you how. Hyperinflation, that's how you make this happen.

Economics are like in my vydia, because... it's not real industry, real industry is when... when... whatever the EU still exports.

For our 4th stop, we'll take a look at shipbuilding.

Europe doesn't produce anything of value

Lmao

49% Tariffs for the gay man

bergjudenland as the head

checks out

nominal

And it's measured by sale value, a US Nike shoes produced in Chinese counts as 100 USD of industry for the US and some 2 - 3 USD of industry for PRC.

All of this originates not in Europe

WRONG. Not a single thing you mentioned is actually made in China, its all assembled in China. China can not even make modern fucking chips. What part of that do you not understand, retard?

Repeat after me, China can not make domestic modern chips, they literally have to import them from Taiwan who is dependent on ASML to provide the litography machines used in the manufacture of modern chips.

You need dollars to buy this.

No, we don't, the Euro is also a reserve currency used to trade and represent ~20% of all the world currency reserves.

You get this dollars from favorable trade with the US

Lmao

If the US stopped trading with you favorably, please explain, where are you going to get those 300-400 billions annually

Lmao, this isn't Russia, most of the trade the EU does is between EU members. The EU economy is worth 20 TRILLIONS and is the largest trading bloc in the world. You're numbers are also fucking wrong just to top it off.

China makes funkopops and medicine

What do you make?

What if we all lie together and pretend it's not made in China... then...

China is the leader in vertical integration, most Chinese goods are entirely China, going all the way down to the raw ores.

Also, let's look at cars, before screaming "cars doesn't count as industry".

What is your point? Germany was a leader in shipbuilding for a long time. It's an industry that needs a lot of cheap labor. That's why all the shipyards have gradually disappeared. The chink workers will also come to a point where they want to let others work for them.

should be of no surprise those retards don't understand what respect is, along with the million other things they don't understand, literal bunch of dumb niggers that think everything is something you can just take

muh chinkshit cars

I must only assume you believe the chinks are importing german machine tools because they're having a laff, right? Fucking retard, lmao.

can't beat insider trading, the government was supposed to keep insider trading in check but what can you do when the government is doing insider trading

It's literally about cheap labor, China will do the same as we did, why? It'll just do it, ok?

No matter how much you scream "muh cheap labor", it'll not change the reality that labor in China is quite expensive.

You just continue dodging questions, focusing on TSMCs (does it matter? Is it European? Do you have the tech to actually produce chips, can you into OS? No, all of these is eithr the US or in Asia. Not yours, Europe IT sector doesn't exist, you make cheese and brands, also chocolate (grown in South America).
Europe in not a supplier of fucking anything of critical value. You exist in such a way only because America won WW2 and Cold War, got you as favorite pets to demonstrate the ideological superiority of American capitalism. Now, however, the US is not interested in feeding their dozens of cats anymore, this detail will change the livelihood of these cats drastically.

you dumb motherfucker really think our politicians have spines like the chinese?

those unelected castrated faggots are fucking unbearable. This is why I will never call myself "european"; It's already hard enough to be just French these days.

red.die spacing was never a thing you stupid favela monkey

how many fucking times do we have to explain this to you newfag ESL dipshits

OOK OOK I SEE ENGLISH ME SAY ENGLISH

Ok, Chinese cars doesn't count, because they are Chinese, haha

Why does China imports so much CNC machinery?

China is the single largest produced of CNC machinery and industrial robots, despite lacking the typical "more than the rest of mankind combined" margin.

Despite being the leader in CNC machinery and industrial robots, the Chinese industry needs always more of these, leading to a relatively small amount of imports to help dometic supply.

Is antiglobalism and anticapitalism leftist or right wing now? Last time I checked it was a leftist and green movement.

ASML

USA dictates ASML because all the tech used is USA owned, actually Trump should relocate that stuff back to the US as well.

The chinks should not be underestimated. But to deny Germany's engineering and industrial power is simply propaganda. If it were otherwise, it would not have been necessary for zog to separate them from russian energy.

Pic related is the amount of CNC machines and industrial robots PRC operates.

This, they will move to China. As the next globo(gulag)homo capital, rinse and repeat.

Your retarded questions are just that, retarded. China is cheap manufacturing in a relatively stable political environment. That is the competitive advantage of china coupled with lax labor and environmental laws.

China creates NOTHING that can't be created somewhere else. Hear that, fucking nothing.

Do you have the tech to actually produce chips

This is why its hard to take you seriously. ASML is literally the only company in the world that makes advanced lithography machines used by TSCM in the production of modern chips. Literally can't make modern cheaps without Euro tech, lol.

vault 7 proved the US intel penetration already. Trump knows everything they are discussing. He can easily apply pressure by leaking a few embarrassing affairs, dick pics, corruption or drug use by these big talkers. Ursula already has a list of scandals as long as your leg, it wouldn't take many more revelations for her to be forced to quit.

China creates NOTHING that can't be created somewhere else. Hear that, fucking nothing.

It's like you gave up reality entirely and is not screaming slogans to cope.

Here, we can take a look on mid-end industrial components, and how China overtook the US both in volume and value.

makes shit inferior product by the boatloasd

cink stronk #1

still imports german machine tools and is the largest market for german machine tools

lmaoooooo

It's always about the price of labor. You should study a little basic economics. Then you can defend your point of view without embarrassing yourself. Especially the chinks as marxists will not deny that.

china producing more horses than the west

in the fucking 1980's

lol

I genuinely can’t tell if this is bait or not. You are not critical to our economy or way of life.

muh luxury goods

Not a priority. Faggy shit we don’t need

muh pharmaceuticals

Half of them are poison

Zero leverage. The EU will suffer harder and longer than anyone because it is simply not equipped for an extended trade war that requires some level of self-sufficiency. Your leaders will bitch and whine demanding respect purely based of the “brand” of being Europe. It’s hilarious and you’re in for a reckoning.

It's hecking basic economics, it's the price of labor... you're embarring yourself if you don't agree with me... because...

Labor in China costs around 70% of labor in the US, it's considerably more than most Third World countries that go as low as 25% in the case of India.

So, instead of repeating "it's cheap labor", tell me why industry is in China, instead of places with cheap labor?

In addition, ASML has suppliers that also offer one of a kind unique element contribution. Like Zeiss lenses for the lasers. Only 1 german firm that chink spies are now pestering for years to steal shit.
I also remember reading that a bunch of japan-unique refined materials come into play for advanced semiconductor manufacturing.

Basically, chink and ruski niggers coping. I dunno why a ruski is even speaking. Literally contirbutes nothing, besides selling cheapest gas he is pumping from beneath his asshole, using mostly Euro tech and begging for spare parts.

China cheap manufacturing means 'they fucking own the factories and their nation is full of engineers'
Do you know they can into AI there? Do you know they code their own OS? Do you know Chinese electric car is better than German electric car and also twice as cheap?
I own nothing that was made in the EU and my country borders your Union btw. All things I buy and use are made in Asia and developed by the US.

What if I go full schizo and pretend industrial goods are actually horses

What? Products listed all follow the lines of:

8406 Steam turbines and other vapor turbines;

8408 Compression-ignition internal combustion piston engine;

8411 Turbojets, turbopropellers and other gas turbines;

8414 Air or vacuum pumps;

8426 Ships' derricks, cranes;

8429 Self-propelled bulldozers, angledozers, graders, levelers, scrapers, mechanical shovels, excavators, shovel loaders, tamping machines and roadrollers;

Why you call it "horses"?

that tells more about you and your "country" than anything else

You clearly haven't read Das Kapital. The chinks won't accept you with such gaps in your education.

This, he will cancel tariffs after insiders buy their call options just like last month.

you don't earn respect, you buy it

Instead of answering "why industry is in China, instead of places with cheap labor", let me act all smug, this is the way we Europeans argue.

So, let me ask again, why industry is in China (labor costs are 70% of the US), instead of places with actual cheap labor (labor costs in Poland are 65% of the US).

Of course he will. At the latest when a wallstreet jew gives an interview on fox news.

China cheap manufacturing means 'they fucking own the factories and their nation is full of engineers'

Except they don't and they're not.

Do you know Chinese electric car is better than German electric car and also twice as cheap?

You never saw a German electric car because you live in Russia and all you have there is cheap chinkshit.

I own nothing that was made in the EU

You can't afford shit from the EU. China completely captured the Russian market, from automobiles to consumer goods. Funnily enough they only managed that after EU sanctions. Turns out you'll only buy chinkshit when you can't buy EU goods, funny how that works. Pic fucking related, enjoy your chinkshit.

SAAAAAAR PLEASE RESPECT US SAAAAAAR

Is that a parody of your brown shithole?

You never saw a German electric car because you live in Russia and all you have there is cheap chinkshit.

We have both German and Chinese electric cars here, the Chinese cars are considerably better, from performance, to reliability, to finishing quality.

everything we import from you is useless!

Because you're posting shit that has been made in the west for the past 100 years. There is no technological prowess there, there is no social development, nothing fucking special that can't be made by anyone else. That's your path to glory though.

Like a chinaman bragging about horse production after everyone moved on to automobiles. Good job, fucking retard. Now show me those EUV machines without which modern manufacturing ceases to exist. That's right, you can't.

We're not dependent on China, China is dependent on us, both as their primary market to sell their chinkshit as well as their primary source of technology.

respect

can someone tell me what country the EU is

Relevant for economic migration are not today's costs, but those of decades ago. You don't dismantle and rebuild industries within 2 weeks. And of course there are many other factors involved, but they all have an impact on the cost of labor. And I've already said that I would never underestimate the chinks.

You see... if the West made it first, then it stops counts as industry, industry is about making things first and nothing else.

Industrial goods are horses, do they doesn't count

Let me repeat some slogans

Pathetic.

can someone tell me what country the EU is

Germany

This faggot will look you in your face and try to tell you chinese products are the REAL quality. Fucking lmao.

kek he’s awesome

Like a chinaman bragging about horse production after everyone moved on to automobiles

But it is the Chinese that are leapfrogging into modern manufacturing while skipping stages. That's why they're innovating in solar and nuclear technology.
I've driven a Geely EV and it was great. Better than my electric Opel.

Actually, labor costs are not relevant, only labor costs in the past, if we pretend that China will lose industry, then...

You really need to learn the basics of economics, my friend.

Otherwise you'll keep making a shame of yourself repeating "it's all cheap labor", despite labor in PRC not being cheap at all.

You must be lying, how can you say our product is not the best.

VW EVs have a very bad finishing, it's all cheap plastic that was already showing sights of falling down while the car had 0km.

They don't call them "Indo-Europeans" for nothing.

n-no chinkshit actually quality

t-trust me

Fucking lmao.

I've driven a Geely EV and it was great. Better than my electric Opel.

This anon gets it, if you've never seen Chinese consumer goods in person, it's possible to keep these delusions of "they are shitty", but once you get to compare them 1:1 with American and European consumer goods, the difference becomes clear.

It's like comparing a Xiaomi phone with... does Europeans even produce phones?

I just refuse to accept it as true, this is my final argument

Final, and only, I must add.

No, it's just you produce nothing.
Electronics? China/Korea/Japan.
Clothes? Made in China/Vietnam other Asian countries. Okay, my sneakers were made in UK, one single thing.
Food? Tropical countries, Asia or local.
Software? Not European.
It's not like we actively avoid your stuff. It's just you make overpriced leather bags, parmezan, hamon, pasta and that's it. I'm sorry I'm not gay, I don't eat that because it's shit tier food detrimental to your health.

Chinese cars are considerably better, from performance, to reliability, to finishing quality.

Anon throwing away any honesty he might've harnessed during this whole debate.

I know its not true because I worked in metalurgy for the German automotive market and the one time we ordered Chinese magnets to replaced our production I spent an entire week redoing them to ensure they were within acceptable tolerances.

Fucking retarded demoralized contrarian retards shilling for gulahomo with chinese charetheristics wouldn't know though.

Read marx. He described well what you don't understand. China's industry is already being partly outsourced. Even to Eastern Europe. This process will accelerate the richer the chink workers become. Read also about the Belt and Road Initiative. Then you will understand it better.

Lmao ruskie mind raped so hard by his own seething propaganda.

Meme flag

Reddit space

How can you say something that you experienced IRL, but doesn't fit the narrative?

Will the US change its tune if they all told US forces to fuck off and close all bases,airfields,supply hubs,intelligence bases,ports?

That big spike is literally just Ozempic you fucking retard. Any demand for critical pharma products can be reallocated to an American competitor. Alternatively, we’ll up tariffs until European pharmaceutical corporations begin production on American soil. They are not loyal to whatever flag is underneath your meme flag. They are loyal to whatever incentive/disincentive system works in their favor. Time is on our side because we can actually withstand the short-term losses much longer than the EU.

Kek, I think this one browk down.

Are you trying to say that Marx claim that labor is a cost of production? Really?

Just read about vague things, then agree with me

You're clueless, and you've never read Marx.

this 5 foot tall idiot shitskin monkey obviously cant understand English yet still

I like when Americans realize arguments are not for their kind and rely entirely on name-calling, it's a sight of maturity

Its ironic seeing faggots telling me we have no inudstry while I worked in heavy industry, from foundry to final product, lmao.

Just an FYI, if we had a single magnet that was outside of tolerances the entire batch, numbering in the thousands, was rejected. The chinkshit was outside of those tolerances with every second magnet. Such quality, much wow!

2 more weeks, mutt

experienced IRL

The brazilian ape has experience with machinery?

Give me a (You) when some chimp finally types all of Shakespeare's works.

read about belt and road and you’ll understand

I wrote multiple research papers on it. Partially outsourcing doesn’t mean shit when they’re shipping hordes of Chinamen overseas for the vast majority of labor. They need constant infrastructure expansion projects to keep their population employed. Once they created enough ghost cities of housing, they had to look outside their own borders. Any Europeans or non-Chinese that have been employed have all been loaded up with malware and spyware, and now many EU countries feel betrayed and like they’re holding a bag of shit debt trap investment with the Chinese (they are).

Are you trying to say that Marx claim that labor is a cost of production? Really?

No, I am saying that marx explains why labor is a special part of production and why all other factors can be understood as constants. He describes why the part of labor that the capitalist keeps for himself is the only relevant quantity in capitalism. Once you have understood this, all other economic processes are self-evident.

its not an argument you stupidass, broke, 20 year pseudeo intellectual dipshit.

i rue the day you filthy slum niggers came onto our white internet and started trashing it with your bullshit. yoy are camcer.

you apparently have no reading comprehension in English and you deserve to be murdered in the favela by one of your shitskin niggers midget neighbors throwing coconuts at eachother

this ironically is great for us because it rushes people in US to buy our shit before tariffs kick in boosting our sales

Europe has some industry, but it's not much, and most of it is just final assembly.

I know, you claim to have worked in a factory in Germany, the problem is pretending having some token industry left is the same as having actual industry as China has.

And you realize that what makes producing in Chian so favorable is the special division between labor and capital there, instead of "labor being cheap", right?

With the US as the scorpion, sure.

You have no cards

Listen, you illiterate idiot

I know, you claim to have worked in a factory in Germany

I didn't. I said I worked for the German automotive industry. That doesn't mean I worked in a Germany factory. I worked for a Slovenian factory that supplied parts to the german automotive market, mostly VW but also companies like Bosch. Those parts were mostly magnets of all shapes and sizes.

the problem is pretending having some token industry left is the same as having actual industry as China has.

15% of world manufacturing output is not 'token'

special division between labor and capital there

When the capital decided to go to china back then, all china had to offer was labor with high exploitation potential, or in other words cheap labor.

Despite this, only two nations have dropped out so far. And in both cases it was a political decision after pro-American governments came to power.

15% of world manufacturing output is not 'token'

1%, 15%, 99% of manufacturing by value is nothing what matter is actual industrial production. The rest are finances.

No, it was not. What China had to offer, and still has to offer, is the wiliness of giving all profits on sale to foreigners, basically running factories on the yellow.

Instead of talking about Marx, you should read it, then you'll understand beyond "cheap labor" slogans militants use.

literally just Ozempic

Ozempic on its own can't cause that big of a spike on US medication imports.

Retarded favela monkey can't grasp the concept of supply and demand.

EU plan to start ww3

we can prevent it by sanctioning west europe.

Name calling

If I say "supply and demand" then I'll become right, haha

It's literally all slogans.

why am I getting laughed at for my retarded opinions!?

I'm laughing at you... see... I'm not mad... you're mad.... you lost...

I expect a bit more of an Eastern European.

giving all profits on sale to foreigners

That is the epitome of what I said. They gave most of what their workers created to the foreign capital. The only thing that has changed is that capital was created in china. But as soon as labor in china becomes too expensive, this capital will start to leave china in search of labor with higher exploitation potential. Reading and understanding marx helps a lot to understand this.

says the retard that's talking about steel production in the information age

horses etc.

Reading and understanding marx...

Is something you should do, when a businessman imports and sells good, his profits will "shared" with the businessman producing and selling the goods to him.

It doesn't matter if labor costs in India are 25% of American labor costs, because the capitalist how owns the factory in India will take a huge part of the total margins for himself.

China is a very special case, because while labor costs are relatively high at 70% US, companies are willing to sell at material + labor costs, something that seems to only happen in PRC.

And as we know, the share capital owners take is usually orders of magnitude higher than what laborers get.

look Chinese replaced Japanese and South Korean cars because of sanctions, this proves Europeans are superior!

That self own is just sad. Do you not understand that Korea, Japan and Taiwan are not part of the EU, because you continue antagonizing them against China while they actually enjoy symbiotic relationships there.

Strategic domestic production should not be underestimated. However, you have to convince your workers to work extra to subsidize it. But if you look at the usa at the moment, you can see that this can make sense. Their crash would be much smoother if they had kept more production in the country. It's a similar story in bongland.

Listen up nigga, the second Moore or Huawei can get me a 95% parity flagship GPU with more RAM than Njudea for half the price, I'm team Chinese Century.
Will it take them till the 2030s? Probably, but at least they're doing meaningful R&D.

Good luck.

kek

Europeans speak like Indians, for some inscrutable reason

Monke see, monke do.

what is VW

what is Renault

hmm I see

Japan and Taiwan are not part of the EU, because you continue antagonizing them against China

Is that why they pulled out of the Russian market while South Korea is becoming a major arms supplier to Europe? Both Japan and Taiwan are hostile to China on a geopolitical level. Not to mention South Korea with the retard Kim in the north.

Ozempic is manufactured in Denmark

Read Marx

Look at some phrase by a libertarian

Are you stupid or what?

How can one guy be so stupid?

Wheres your ID?

So? Man I even bought BMW a dozen of years ago. Times change, you were okay some time ago. I'm not telling you Europeans were always shit. My first phones were Nokia and Ericson. But it's 2025 now. And Europe produces nothing of competitive quality in 2025. Today's Europe is shit and backward.

And what is worse, incapable of realizing how times changed.

How does it feel knowing you will be part of Russia within the next five years, eurocucks?

Das Kapital book 1 footnote 24

I tried it. I am out. Good luck again.

a slovenian company just got busted for evading sanctions in providing telecommunication gear to Russia trough Kazakhstan. Russia also imports over 5% of all its pharmaceuticals from fucking Slovenia, lmao.

you produce nothing and are shit

also pls lift sanctions and sell us stuff (((

Its trademark is owned by a danish based corporation. Its made whereever its most profitable to be produced. When anons pic says popular weight loss drug it means ozempic. Do anons still not understand how globalization works?

Das Kapital book 1 footnote 24

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/Capital-Volume-I.pdf

24 In Homer, for instance, the value of an article is expressed in a series of different things. Iliad. VII.

472-475.

This?

How does it feel knowing you will be part of Russia within the next five years, eurocucks?

It would be nice. You mutts never let that happen.

Apparently the english version is different. But you can search pdfs with control+f. It is the 18th footnote in this version.

And site 115.

The celebrated Franklin, one of the first economists, after Wm. Petty, who saw through the nature of value, says: “Trade in general being nothing else but the exchange of labour for labour, the value of all things is ... most justly measured by labour.” (“The works of B. Franklin, &c.,” edited by Sparks. Boston, 1836, Vol. II., p. 267.) Franklin is unconscious that by estimating the value of everything in labour, he makes abstraction from any difference in the sorts of abour exchanged, and thus reduces them all to equal human labour. But although ignorant of this, et he says it. He speaks first of “the one labour,” then of “the other labour,” and finally of “labour,” without further qualification, as the substance of the value of everything.

Now, it's better.

What I'm saying, and you fail to realize, is that more the small amounts given to laborers, the large sums give to the capitalists who own and run manufacturing are what takes the largest cut of trades.

Even if labor in PRC costs 200% that in the US, the very low margins (often zero) of local capital holders makes the end good still cheaper.

if they all told US forces to fuck off and close all bases,

and what if we don’t?

We only care about the US sanction. What Europeans do concerns us very little. You'll continue buy our shit anyway, because you have to. We, however, can substitute you without any problem, only the US sanctions complicates the trade, because international trade is done in USD.

90% of modern electronics are made on ASML machines.

LOL they won't even have half of Ukraine in 5 years.

This is true, if we use a very narrow definition of "modern electronics", top only include top level chips today.

EU keeps threatening to fine American tech companies so why should EU deserve respect

That's American intellectual property and tech. Plus Chinese (Taiwanese) engineers.

You'll continue buy our shit anyway, because you have to

Lmao, the only thing we get from Russia is small quantities of fucking gas and oil. You lose nearly 1 billion dollars in trade with us every year.

Glorified gas station that has to smuggle European goods into the country trough 3rd party countries. Tell me more how you don't care.

Not true. Most machine tool builders are Japanese companies like Yamazaki Mazak, Okuma, DMG MORI, JTEKT, and Komatsu

ASML is literally the only manufacturer of EUV machines used in the manufacturing of modern chips. Every modern sub 7nm chip is made using ASML machines from the netherlands. They have a literal monopoly.

kek Imagine thinking you have the cards.

nJudea will make more money this year

Sure. If you buy our shit via reexport it's magically becomes not ours.
You know, we are selling energy, minerals and food. People still want electricity and to eat and you cannot manifest limited resources out of thing air just because you really really want to show who us 'european values (being gay feminist vegan activist)'. Unless you want to create famine and economic crisis you can't even try to prevent us selling shit. And even if you wanted to left a few hundred million people die without food and basic utilities, we will still simply sell all that to China, because China is your rival and our close partner and will always maintain favorable or neutral relations with us.

europe is shit and you are shit

pls sell us stuff (((

The majority of gas now comes from Norway, the US and Algeria. Which is why Russian petroleum companies are slowly going bankrupt and having to sell below the price to China and India to find themselves alternative markets. Nice 'partners' you have there, squeezing you by the balls, lel.

You are now a vassal state of China, your consumer market is reliant on chinese goods while your government revenue is dependent on gas&oil sales to China and India. They still won't arm you though because the EU market is worth far, far more than the Russian one. Good job, monke.

blabbing on about millions dying

Nigger, our food isn't imported from Russia. The EU imports more from the fucking UK than it does from Russia. Moreover the EU is a net exporter of food. You live in fantasy land. Russia has nothing to offer to the world except cheap gas, lmao.

As an added bonus, most of electricity in Slovenia is produced via nuclear(over 40%), hydro(25%) and coal(24%).

Even if that was true, it doesn't matter.
Because the demand for energy and food in the growing and developing world will only grow. Especially now, when AI is being implemented and that require enormous amount of energy to both train and being used.
You simply cannot substitute what we produce without effectively killing millions of people and creating world crisis that would result in war.
And nobody even plays your games, even the US is not interested anymore and would rather continue doing business as usual.
Have you seen Russia in the tariff list btw? No, we aren't there, only you.
Your confrontational stance will only harm you, and will only make you less competitive. The US and China will be neutral. You dig your own grave.

he cant do it anyway, his corporate overlords will make him cuck because they need our engineered parts to SURVIVE.
just wait 2 weeks or so.

Even if that was true, it doesn't matter.

The loss of a key European market has dealt a severe financial blow to Russian energy giant Gazprom, resulting in net losses of 1.076 trillion rubles ($13.1 billion) in 2024, the Moscow Times reported on March 18. Gazprom's losses averaged $251 million per week, $35 million per day, or $1.4 million per hour.

Because the demand for energy and food in the growing and developing world will only grow.

Lmao, China is the only market of comparable size to the EU. There is no other markets. Even India, with over a billion people, only has an economy the size of Germany. Who are you going to sell to exactly?

And nobody even plays your games, even the US is not interested anymore and would rather continue doing business as usual.

Is that why they just OK'd new supplies of patriots and ATACM missiles to Ukraine from Germany? Will daddy Trump save you? Is that what you're hoping for now? That the evil anglo-saxons come to Russias aid for the 2nd time in the past 30 years? Remember the Bush legs?

You simply cannot substitute what we produce without effectively killing millions of people and creating world crisis that would result in war.

What is it that you produce? Gas&Oil? That's it. We already replaced the majority of it, the Russian share of EU gas&oil was over 40% and now its down to 17% and dropping. You're only accelarating energy independence that Europe is striving for now while your largest geopolitical rival, the USA, has replaced you as the main supplier. Talk about a double whammy.

Your confrontational stance will only harm you, and will only make you less competitive. The US and China will be neutral. You dig your own grave.

help us chinkland and murrifats!

I don't know if you noticed but Russia is stuck in a forever war in eastern Ukraine, without any prospects of ending it any time soon, digging its own grave as we speak.

Russia will collapse, in two weeks, kek

dealt a severe financial blow to Russian

Really? And I thought it was EU that was in recession. Russia, US and China economies continue to grow, you lag behind everybody. This war is harming only the EU economy, we adapted.

Lmao, China is the only market of comparable size to the EU.

Your market is barred from competition and regulations, you just ping pong services and bloat fiat fake crap, because the US supplies your trade deficit and allows you to appear as developed economies with their money print going brrrrrr. Once the US subsidies are gone, your market will shrink to it's actual size.

Is that why they just OK'd new supplies of patriots and ATACM missiles to Ukraine from Germany?

Go spend 5 millions to shot a 100k drone with a certain 'probability', we endorse such decisions. The US want's trade surplus anyways, pay for that as much as you want, the faster you go bankrupt the better, spend all your pensions, start selling public property, go for it. Or even better, shoot them into the air, trying to intercept ballistics, that's even better. More combat data to develop rockets and drones anyway.

What is it that you produce? Gas&Oil? That's it.

No, far from it. Metals, food, weapons (although we need them ourselves at the moment, but industry capacity is ever growing), machinery, uranium, titanium, potash and such. We basically have anything here.

I don't know if you noticed but Russia is stuck in a forever war in eastern Ukraine

No, we are not stuck, we actively neutralize our hostile threat on our border. The one that will be stuck with 20 millions of Ukrainians babushkas to feed is you, we are not taking Ukraine it will always be your liability. The US roached out and we have no plans in taking Ukraine past the Dnepr, it will always be yours to feed.

EU has been doing nothing but lobbying so far just look at this dude what a faggot.

Really? And I thought it was EU that was in recession. Russia,[...]continue to grow

German economy grew until 1945 too! Tell me of the Russian wealth fund, how's it going? The EU economy still grew in 2024, by the way!

Your market is barred from competition and regulations, you just ping pong services and bloat fiat fake crap,

The U.S. goods trade deficit with the European Union was $235.6 billion. That's roughly the size of the Greek economy. The value of extra-EU exports were over 2.5 trillion, more than the entire GDP of Russia.

because the US supplies your trade deficit and allows you to appear as developed economies with their money print going brrrrrr. Once the US subsidies are gone, your market will shrink to it's actual size.

Apparently you're not good with numbers either.

Go spend 5 millions to shot a 100k drone with a certain 'probability', we endorse such decisions.

Lmao, unlike russian smekalka that's working so great in year 4 of the 3 day SMO.

The US want's trade surplus anyways, pay for that as much as you want, the faster you go bankrupt the better, spend all your pensions, start selling public property, go for it.

Funny you bring up pensions, the average life expectancy for a Russian male is 67 years. The retirement age is going up to 65. You don't need a pension fund!

Or even better, shoot them into the air, trying to intercept ballistics, that's even better. More combat data to develop rockets and drones anyway.

You don't develope anything in Russia, its just soviet gear with lipstick which you pretend its modern until it gets blown up in eastern Ukraine.

h-help us america

w-we never wanted ukraine anyway

kek