I'm starting to think that getting rid of Christianity was a mistake

If Christianity is truly the yoke that has been holding western society down, you'd think that things would be getting better as religion erodes. That is not what is happening, instead what has happened is that society has gone progressively more insane, nihilistic and degenerate. We don't see the erasue of all religion around the world, it's only Christianity that is collapsing, all the other religions are still going strong especially Islam, which is slowly taking over the spiritual life of the west.

Maybe it's time to admit that Christianity did have positive things to contribute to Western society, and if so, what can we do about it?

Keep in mind that I'm not interested in any kind of polemics, or discussion about the veracity of the Bible or the existence of God, I'm exclusively talking about Christianity as a key part of Western civilization and culture.

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Who got rid of it? It's still there. Nobody wants to spend their lives stuck in a Jewish cope anymore.

It all started with women's rights

Brown hands typed that

Who got rid of it?

Every person that chose leave the religion and every person that spoke against it.

It's still there

Barely, and it's not the cultural force it once was.

Nobody wants to spend their lives stuck in a Jewish cope anymore.

Read the OP, stop calling it "Jewish cope", to call a 2000 year long tradition as such is infantile and absurd.

jews hate christianity but are fine with islam.

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Western civilization was never that good. Look to the future, jabroni. Stop living in a past that is largely myth anyway.

Western civilization was never that good.

It conquered the world.

but I approach it as the mythology of the West, not meaning as fictional, but as the foundational story of our civilization

it isn't
the west began with greco roman values
some of which are injected into cuckstianity to make it palatable for converting pagans
but I can't stand christian weakness, it does not resonate with me
my god told your god to go to hell
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus

as religion erodes

Where do you think that has happened? The current POTUS has handpicked religious advisors and there has never been a POTUS who isn't openly Christian

Christianity did have positive things to contribute to Western society

No, it didn't

it never went away.

It has for the most part.

Christianity is the dominating ideology in the west

It absolutely is not.
it isn't
It is, for centuries westerners understood and ordered their lives and cosmos around the Bible, its stories, its teachings and its characters.

the west began with greco roman values

I don't think so, I see Greece and Rome as key precursos to Western civilization, but it'd be a mistake to say that they are western civilization. And many of its values were quite barbaric and backwards, nobody would want them back.

but I can't stand christian weakness, it does not resonate with me

I don't see Christianity as weak at all, I see it as incredibly resilient, I have nothing but respect for someone who actually lives and embodies Christian values. Such people are the furthest from weak.

my god told your god to go to hell

I'm an atheist.

lost to Christianity for a multitude of reasons

christianity is more appealing to dumb ignorant slaves, who become dangerous in large numbers
youtube.com/watch?v=FTilTcdVAb8

An actual God makes more sense than a ball of burning plasma floating in space.

and yet the sun does more in a single day than your god ever did lmao

it's lasted for over 2 millennia and faced innumerable foes which managed to defeat

it didn't even win the crusades, the crusaders retreated when they had enough
what a weak and flabby religion, and now they're getting dominated in europe
what would titus have done?

of all the christians, vlad tepes is the best one, and his character is hardly christian lol

Religion isn't eroding. Back in the day nobody could read the bible and followed their folk ways, the world is more Christian now more than ever.

Where do you think that has happened?

Everywhere, the number of religiously affiliated people in the West continues to plumet year by year, religion is less and less relevant, and its values are seen with disdain.

The current POTUS has handpicked religious advisors and there has never been a POTUS who isn't openly Christian

I fail to see how that is a sign that religion is in decline it the wesl.

muh heckin based and redpilled penis cutting religion that is shilled by Joe Rogan, Jorden Peterson, Matt Walsh and Ben Shapiro!!

NPC christcuck nigger

Lol, paganism went on for millions of years and Asia is still largely pagan.

Pagan traditions are nonsense. The European pagan religions were just as insane and brutal as the Aztecs and Mayans. They encouraged human trafficking, kidnapping, denial of human rights, human sacrifice, temple prostitution, child sacrifice and pillaging of their weaker neighbors.

I guess you want to gloss over the human sacrifices of the phoenicians, the Vikings and the Canonites. I guess you want to gloss over the boy lovers and temple prostitutes of Greece. I guess you want to gloss over the violence of the vikings, Spartans, Romans etc. I guess you want to gloss over the human trafficking and kidnapping of slaves all over Europe.

The wisdom, love and teachings of the Bible oppose all that. It benefited both Jews and Gentiles.

has for the most part

Nope

All you need to do is to have a solid answer to "jesus was a jew" and you win. Until then the jew will always think of christians as a bastardized jew worshipper sect for the goyim.

I'm an atheist, I don't care if Jesus was a Jew or not, or even real for that matter.

Something happened after WWII.

No, when the futurist right wing was pushing fashwave and worshipping chaos we had the beginnings of a real revolutionary movement.

AND THEN we let a bunch of faggot cocksucking missionaries from the church of ladder day saints and the Catholic church come fuck our shit all up, fragmenting things and sapping all the energy until we were successfully diverted back into some vaguely traditionalist simp faggot conservative useless loser party again

Getting rid of paganism was the real mistake. I'll pray to the sun before I pray to a dead kike on a stick.

christianity is more appealing to dumb ignorant slaves

So what does that say about paganism that it couldn't even appeal to dumb ignorant slaves, then?

and yet the sun does more in a single day than your god ever did lmao

I'm an atheist. I just think that a hypothetical God would be more worthy of my worship than the sun.

it didn't even win the crusades

Christians won every crusade they launched against he pagans, what are you talking about? The ones they lost were against Muslims. It was against PAGANS that Christians actually found military success.

Pagans are the other side of the faggot cocksucking simp traditionalist coin that ruined the new right wing movement

Unfortunately we need christianity back in force to get rid of the bs and to have enough power to not get crushed (as a pagan group would likely be too small).

Gotta somehow remove the jew lies about christianity though.

Anyway, I suppose Islam can work too. Don’t they ban Usury?

Yes, but it is also a mis-diagnostic

The modern times are antichristian, but they are anti everything. We are grown up in societies of strangers, in brainwashing centers ran by strangers, at the behest of other strangers.
The degradation is inevitable. It literally wouldn't matter if they were all white christian saints - yes, murder rates would be down, but this would merely delay the pillage.
USAID revealed government was funneling money to churches for the invading immigrant agenda.

Man must be tied completely to his domain otherwise he shall harvest and burn it. Christianity certainly provides a path for this, but the remote clergy in say vatican or whatever other catholic equivalent is the manifestation of the same problem. And that Christianity fails to address political corruption, rather calling men to various forms of apathy for the sake of their souls also raises a whole bunch of issues. This is a cowardly bugman christianity that should also be put in the grave.
The West was Christian and was completely ran through by the modern faggotry bullshit. And so it must also evolve. We must reject all ideas of secularism as a lie and as pretense. Because it is. They have offered nothing but destruction in the name of their delusional atheist dogmas.

It is, for centuries westerners understood and ordered their lives and cosmos around the Bible, its stories, its teachings and its characters.

its stories

ALL JEWISH, and fake as well
youtube.com/watch?v=Iep4gnmJeRE&t=93s

its teachings

ALL JEWISH

its characters

ALL JEWS

all the good parts of christianity were things they borrowed from paganism like easter, yule
there is more wisdom in aesop's fables than the entire bible

And many of its values were quite barbaric and backwards, nobody would want them back.

christians were niggers for thousands of years til the 16th century, they destroyed ancient texts, they destroyed statues and temples
they fought other christians over disagreements on bible passages
they killed cats because they thought they were witches, they are the champions of ignorance and still are
youtube.com/watch?v=FTilTcdVAb8

Lithuania won, you brainless cretin.

Finally anons I can have a real conversation with.

The mistake was giving the entire world access to the internet and encouraging them to speak English. Christianity is currently a plague holding the older generations finger on the hippity hop haaa hoppity alaallalala I can’t hear you button

How much of Lithuania is pagan vs Christian or atheist?

It has for the most part.

which countries are majority non christian? which have nonchristian heads of state? which are openly antichristian? boo hoo faggot

which countries are majority non christian?

More than there used to be.
which have nonchristian heads of state?
More than there used to be.

No in fact there's reports of Gen Z men turning to Christianity so in fact it's growing.
I get really sick of you meme flagging kikes on Anon Babble.

The whole point of God letting the world fall apart was to prove man and Satan cannot govern themselves. Only God can govern. The idea was to let you non-believers TRY to fix all of life's problems and fail. Thus, proving man cannot govern himself into utopia.

After the matter is fully settled is when Armageddon will start. 99.9% of all disobedient mankind will be executed. Then, the original paradise Adam and Eve forsook will be reestablished. Pic related, that is going to be accomplished very soon. Depending on how old you are within your lifetime. We are in the Last Days, you are also witnessing the end of an Empire.

slaves are weak, so a weak religion resonates with them, not heroism
christianity is proto-communism
"pay taxes to the state"
"rich people will go to hell"
"own nothing and be happy"
"be a hippie bum"
all of jesus' friends were lepers, prostitutes, slaves, basically the scum of rome
he was proto-antifa

It was against PAGANS that Christians actually found military success.

simply because of numbers, and when faced with bigger niggers of islam, christianity met its match
slaves outnumber heroes in the world, but I will never bow to a slave

The liberals, atheist and communist replaced Christianity for their pursuit of progressivism. It's pretty much a feminine version of humanism. It makes no sense. The end of the west was giving women the right to vote. It's that simple.
Women have never built a civilization, not even a tribe. Women cannot survive the world without men. Giving them the power of the vote destroyed the whole original idea of democracy.

And also the middle east is in a massive shift into Christianity instead of them jihading each other all the fuckin time

They are looking for futurist right wing revolution and are wasting five or ten years down this retarded rabbit hole because the nexus of where right wing thought should be is infested with traditionalist missionaries, and we should turn you into digital martyrs. Fuck you people.

Gen Z men

lmao, no such thing
you could tell them to eat tide pods and they would... and did
I can see why christianity would appeal to a generation of losers who basically grew up with no parents

Call me back when the number of people converting is greater than the number of people leaving, then we'll talk.

simply because of numbers,

So Christians had greater numbers than pagans? Is that supposed to make paganism look better?

and when faced with bigger niggers of islam, christianity met its match

So you admit that paganism could never overcome Christianity and it took another monotheistic religion to actually put up a fight against it?

slaves outnumber heroes in the world, but I will never bow to a slave

Christianity redefined heroism in the West.

I think what needs to come back is forgiveness. As an example: lots of people will make a simple customer service mistake then it gets recorded and then everyone has fun laughing at the person. Maybe they had a mistake by trying to say a word and they accidentally said nigger and now they get viciously attacked even if they didn't mean it. Christianity used to get people to say well I should just forgive and move on because Jesus would do that, you didn't see these crazy grudges as you do today.

That is a difference between then and now.

the decline in christianity

not the increase in brownoids that's the problem

Fucking frogposter

it started with womens rights

Which Chrostianity helped promote. WHere we are now with feminism etc is a direct result of the failures of Christianity. People like OP claim its "traditional" but there are many feminist aspects to it, like claiming a jewish woman who cheated on her husband was impregnated by god, completely letting her off the hook for cheating. Thats peak feminism right there.

You are playing in their hands right fucking now

You think?

Nah the mistake was adopting it in the first place if you want the true red pill.

X is better than Y

People will make value claims like this and not even realize that they require a worldview that ground this into reality
Christianity provides this, and it is true
Everyone that seethes about it did not give it a fair investigation, just posting the same Anon Babble images and their main argument being "No it's not based, I am too based for this despite not even knowing enough about the subject I'm seething at"

America was the sole superpower for the last thirty years and has been majority Christian the whole time, with the Republican party keeping Christians as a central plank in their platform and deciding policy based on their ideas. This narrative that Christianity got "turned off" sometime in the recent past is completely insane, it's still the dominant religion in the West, same as it has been for a thousand years. It maybe had a minor dip in certain circles after the New Atheist movement, one that got handicapped quickly by Atheism+ (after #MeTooing the original founders) and is now getting rolled back completely by Fuentes-style "Christian Nationalism" which is revitalizing the yoke for a new generation.

Christianity was never gotten rid of, so it doesn't get to duck any blame for the current state of affairs.

Whhhhaaaaaa?
You mean getting rid of the organization and belief that is the moral foundation for the entire western civilization was a stupid idea? WHAAAAA thats crazy!

Any way, Christ is King.

Christianity is truly the yoke that has been holding western society down, you'd think that things would be getting better as religion erodes

It is?? People are able to have hookups and go to clubs and dance and have fun and drink and smoke and do some fun drugs and its totally awesome!!
People dont have to worry about the pressures of old relationship standards, we get to have poly relationships or whatever they are called now and we can divorce easier. People can be free to be gay or identify themselves by their own personal sexualities instead of having to be forced or lie just to keep up appearances. Gender has ben eniterly re understood you don't have to be forced into any one type. Schools teach science and education instead of indoctrination. Music, film, art doesn't have to be ONLY FOR religious purposes so you get things that are actually pretty and creative and mesmerising. Morality comes from ethics not some dusty book
The world IS better

yes it was, from start
it was religion/cult of pathetic people

So Christians had greater numbers than pagans? Is that supposed to make paganism look better?

why didn't the byzantine christians defeat the ottoman turks?
NUMBERS
it has nothing to do with who is right or "better"

there were simply more slaves in the roman empire, and all it took was the george flloyd of rome aka jesus to turn them into niggers that made the empire collapse within 400 years

christianity made "everyone equal in the eyes of god", which is obviously not true
it is the DEI program of rome which led to the collapse, and then the christian niggers went on to destroy pagans everywhere else

Well if everyone did it like you, it would just fully extinct christianity as a religion. By treating it as mythology you're essentially making it as irrelevant as greek mythology or nordic mythology. Sure those mythologies are talked about and movies are made, it's studied in academies but it doesn't lay the foundation of society nor shape it. If you want christianity to be like that you might as well be a secular atheist. It served no purpose that you read the bible "for fun"

"Christian" you mean protestant Christian. The ones that literally worship the state of israel. I was in shock the first time I hung out with protestants. They talk about israel as if its God himself.

A plausible case study in stranger-escalations is militarization of the police. We can suppose a condition of even supremely good individuals. There is some chance of chaotic people, under this or that circumstance that pushes them to some edge. An officer who doesn't know his people has no understanding of a situation, and a department might see once-in-a-lifetime unpalatable violence. Maybe they lose an officer.
Now their SOPs have to adjust to keep their people alive, and it has no input to understand contributing circumstance.. And now SOPs kill some more than necessary citizens.
And so edge-case craziness drives escalation - unsustainable bs.
The police, as an example, are a copy-paste of sheriffs and a copy-paste of guardians, but these things only worked under pretexts of allegiance. Such things don't exist when it is a J-O-B, an occupation in more than one way, us-and-them, a paycheck.

One issue is that we aren't going to be the ones to see any of this through. We are fundamentally anti-social. And I don't mean retard schizos on the website. Men will certainly forge the path, but its their children who will know what it is to lose it. It is a bit like the farm/city problem. People are born in cities and they are cast into certain roles of dependency.
In our case, we have been extruded out of a deranged society and have similar afflictions.
I don't talk to my neighbors. I don't even talk to people who post here when I see them. This sort of situation is a powder keg with millions of men waiting for the great one to show the way.
Alternatively, you can go join the Amish right now.

Ever tire of being a lying, cherry picking antichrist faggot?

says the guy who venerates a man as the head of his church, prays to Mary and other earthly men and women, seeks forgiveness of his sins from a earthly man

I was shocked when I hung out with scatholics for the first time, they talk about their idolatry as if its God himself.

it has nothing to do with who is right or "better"

Wow, so if being "better" doesn't guarantee that your civilization will continue, what's the point to going back to old greco-roman values, especially when they've been abandoned for so long?

worship the sun

No need. The sun's not a narcissist.

Faithless faith is as worthless as secular humanism.

I would advise you to suspend your disbelief for a single week. Just larp as if isn't mythology for a single week.

The European pagan religions were just as insane and brutal as the Aztecs and Mayan

false

thats not REAL Christianity

Anyone who makes this dumbass arguement is a shill.

You will know them by their fruits

The European pagan religions were just as insane and brutal as the Aztecs and Mayans.

The Christcuck reveals his final anti-White form.

See This is where you cry "but thats not REAL Christcuckery"!

You cannot have political revolution without first having a spiritual revolution.

what's the point to going back to old greco-roman values

they don't celebrate weakness like christianity does, so that's already better
greco roman values built europe, not cuckstianity which kept europe stuck for 11 centuries
youtube.com/watch?v=5oUBdjsoZKc

I'm starting to think that getting rid of Christianity was a mistake

Getting rid of paganism was a mistake, anon

they don't celebrate weakness like christianity does, so that's already better

If "weakness" can defeat paganism, for thousands of years, the it's very clearly not.

greco roman values built europe

No they didn't, I won't give the full credit to Christianity, but it definitely took Western civilization to the next level, greco-roman civilization had nothing to do with Northern or Eastern Europe, for example.

Medieval europe was just too poor for other nations to immigrate and other nations weren't christian. Yet, french and some other tried to import asians as farm workers. If other nations were christian back then and life in mena wasn't better than in europe, european civilization would be long gone thanks to christianity.

The decline of Christianity is harming our people not because it is true or particularly good or well suited to Aryan man. It's bad because it has been the standard of public morality for so long that we are left with almost nothing of our traditional spirituality to take it's place. This leaves most whites with nothing to embrace but nihilism, atheism, and hedonism. I can empathize with the pagan mindset when it comes to the spiritual poison Christianity has been for our people, but we had at least paganized it for a time to make it a workable spiritual and moral frame work to some degree. It's just that due to the cultural genocide our people endured, there is very little left in terms of standard practices of our original folk beliefs that doesn't just look like ridiculous ghost dancing to most people. Modern day neopagans remind me a lot of the museum fremen from God Emperor of Dune for anons who get that reference. What I recommend for a new spirituality for our people is to reach back to something so old it feels new ( Esoteric Sun/Life cults, Atlantean/ Hyperborean lore, Vril, ect.) and then to combine that with some of our people's post enlightenment achievements ( scientific exploration, evolutionary theory and racial science) to recapture our people's imagination. William Luther Pierce attempted something like this prior to his death with Cosmotheism, and honestly after reading that, it does speak to me on a spiritual level, it rings true, as though it's always what I sort of believed about the nature of the divine but just lacked the vocabulary to put it all together. I think there is enough real public interest in esoteric spirituality and alternative archeology for people to start forming workable belief systems around them. Considering that the public attitude towards Hitler is starting to shift and we could probably throw aspects of Esoteric Hitlerism into the mix for good measure.

You have a total disordered understanding of what Christianity even is
You live in a heretic bubble but your heresy is dead now with the internet
As the years go on, you will witness protestants draining out of your buildings and converting to either Catholicism or Eastern Orthodoxy, it has already started

Why can't we just have christianity without anything jewish?

Just remove everything written by jews from the bible and write a new creation myth since the current christian creation myth is just the jewish one

Why can't we just have christianity without anything jewish?

That would be Marcionism.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcionism

muh heckin based and redpilled penis cutting religion that is shilled by Joe Rogan, Jorden Peterson, Matt Walsh and Ben Shapiro!!

Book of Genesis

Old testament

Kek! Get with the times crypto-kike. You type this as if your Jewish ass isn't already circumcized.
Ephesians 2:
11 Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called “uncircumcised” by those who call themselves “the circumcision” (which is done in the body by human hands)— 12 remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ.

14 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15 by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, 16 and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. 17 He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.

Even a Jew can get into heaven for the small cost of free, he just has to accept that Jesus Christ is the son of God.

Why can't we just have christianity without anything jewish?

We already do. The Bible is not Jewish. It's international. It's for everyone.

(Matthew 28:19) Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit,

(Acts 1:8) but YOU will receive power when the holy spirit arrives upon YOU, and YOU will be witnesses of me both in Jerusalem and in all Ju·dea and Sa·mari·a and to the most distant part of the earth.”

(Revelation 14:6) And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people,

(Ephesians 3:5, 6) In other generations this [secret] was not made known to the sons of men as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by spirit, 6namely, that people of the nations should be joint heirs and fellow members of the body and partakers with us of the promise in union with Christ Jesus through the good news.

Matthew 24:14-And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

Mark 13:10-Also, in all the nations, the good news has to be preached first.

Galatians 3:8-Now the scripture, foreseeing that God would declare people of the nations righteous through faith, declared the good news beforehand to Abraham, namely: “By means of you all the nations will be blessed.”

If something was written by jews, it's jewish
Cut out anything authored by jews from the bible

heaven includes jews

ngmi christcuck

So if a Jew writes 2+2=4 does that make it Jewish?

it's only Christianity that is collapsing

A religion based on and around some "superhero savior" that has promised his return, and failed to fulfill it 2000+ years later is going to die off.

christianity wasn't meant to stand the test of time.

Burn in hell Jew.

Then we would have no Bible. Ancient Israel is not related to modern day Israel. When people say Christianity is a Jewish religion what they are trying to do is poison the well by connecting the Bible and Jesus with ((((Jews))))

jews exist for 3500 years

Hindus still worship cattle

Buddha (atheism) still around

Christianity is patiently waiting. 2000 years is nothing.

Nah the mistake was adopting it in the first place if you want the true red pill.

This.

Yeah keep telling yourself that.

What if we had to replace christianity with something better but since we didn't-> society embraced nihilistic atheism and started eroding? Maybe a new religion has to be born, for europeans only ?

The fact that it has lasted as long as it has is because it hasn't even been a single coherent belief system for its entire history. It has constantly transformed into various forms and sects as the centuries rolled on. There's thousands of denominations, all that claim that their interpretation is correct and that everyone else are heretics doomed to hell. You could rephrase the common fedora argument of 'which god am supposed to worship?" to 'which Christianity am I supposed to follow?" As someone raised loosely Christian, it took a lot of time post redpill for me to get just how ridiculous this all sounds to people not born into it. And that really is the only way it has achieved the dominance it has; force. Children are taught they are inherently evil and will be tortured forever if they don't worship the magic carpenter. It's Semitic mind rape. All of Abrahamic religion is just one big child abuse/child sacrifice cult.

There's thousands of denominations

No there aren't. There are many different "organizations" for lack of a better term, especially when looking at how things are organized across various countries, but many of them share the same beliefs with others and cooperate and worship with them.

all that claim that their interpretation is correct and that everyone else are heretics doomed to hell.

This isn't true either. Obviously they think they're correct but they don't all condemn everyone else to hell, that idea is nonsense.

What a crock of bullshit. You won't say publicly you don't condemn other denominations, but you all believe it or else there would be no need for the differences in what qualifies you for salvation. Our people slaughtered each other for centuries over this shit, and the only reason they still don't is because the secular modern nation state prevents this.

Christianity started eroding in the 17th century. Things were overall getting progressively better before the decline of Christianity and continued to get better even after the decline of Christianity. From this, we can conclude that Christianity is largely irrelevant in regards to social morals an ideals. The nihilism and degeneracy started infecting society in the late 19th and early 20th century, depending on the country. This coincides perfectly with the rise of Jewish power and influence in the West. If the secularization of society was responsible for the rise of the Jews, it was only because secular society made the mistake of thinking that a secular Jew would behave like a secular Christian/Gentile, which was wrong.

Secular Jews largely act just as subversively than religious Jews because Judaism is not a spiritual or faith-based religion like Christianity. Judaism is actually a fully-worldly ethnic survival strategy. If anything, secular Jews are somewhat more subversive than religious because they aren't held back all of the schizophrenic rituals that the Torah commands.

Christians were able hold back Jewish influence historically because the opposed Jews on religious grounds. Christians were unable to completely stop Jews because Christians are (mostly) incapable of recognizing the ethinc component of Judaism because of the two region's shared roots. Christianity is a universalist religion, but it's foundation is the Jewish-supremacist torah. Trying to reconcile the universalist nature of Christianity with the ethnic supremacy of the Torah creates a Schizophrenic love-hate relationship towards Jews in Christians. Most anti-Semitic Christians have a sort of spiritual reverence towards Jews, even though they hate them. This prevents Christians from effectively opposing Jews. Only secular anti-Semites can truly oppose Jews completely, but unfortunately there aren't currently enough of us to do anything meaningful.

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We could get into all the historical details of it, but if we're talking about the reality as it exists on the ground, there is a broad sort of orthodoxy that exists and the Christians within that (which is the majority of them) do not believe that the others within that broad orthodoxy are going to hell. The Presbyterians on Street A do not think the Lutherans on Street B are going to hell, etc. If you want to talk about groups outside of that orthodoxy, like Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, etc. then what you're saying is going to start to apply. Also it becomes an issue when dealing with anchoretic churches such as Catholicism, but their official teaching on the matter is in line with what I'm saying, albeit with qualifications.

Worshipping a dead jew never took anyone "to the next level". Europe advanced because of White genetics, not because of a Middle Eastern cult. The fact that you think otherwise shows how much Christians look down on European history and achievements. Kind of jewish in fact.

Christians were able hold back Jewish influence historically

Total opposite is true. Christians often claim they expelled the jews 109 times but yet jews live freely everywhere and rule over us.

Which means;

1) You utterly failed at your job
2) You're lying

Both outcomes show that Christianity failed to protect us.

The Presbyterians on Street A do not think the Lutherans on Street B are going to hell, etc

This is possible because the average modern Christian is a luke warm nihilist that doesn't actually believe their own theology. This is partially due tonthe influence of the secular modern nation state, as i mentioned, but also just a function of the post enlightenment. Most whites just can't bring themselves to believe this shit anymore, and half cling to it out of needing some kind of spirituality.

Christianity only works when you introduce paganism into it.

you'd think that things would be getting better as religion erodes. That is not what is happening, instead what has happened is that society has gone progressively more insane, nihilistic and degenerate

Well yeah, because religion isn't eroding, judaism is in full force and wholly dedicated to turning everyone into slop consuming retards

>Christians were able hold back Jewish influence historically

I meant to say "Christians were able to somewhat hold back Jewish influence historically".
And that's true. Christians did hold back Jews somewhat. It wasn't enough to stop them, but it wasn't as bad as it is now.

Which means;

1) You utterly failed at your job

2) You're lying

If you had actually read the rest of my post you would have seen that I said Christians are incapable of stopping Jews completely and that I am not a Christian.

Yeah, though don't overstate islam's succes, it's just more besieged so people hide behind it without belief.

Here is the Truth.

Anyone against Christ is a cucked pawn of the ZOG.

The world has been in a spiritual war for the past several thousand years. It is the Sons of Christ vs. the Sons of Satan. This has always been the case. The war is almost over though, the Triune God will come back to set everything right. Join the winning team by swallowing your sinful pride & repenting to God.

Protestants didn't believe this about other Prostants during the Reformation either unless, once again, you're talking about groups outside of orthodoxy such as Anabaptists.

and if so, what can we do about it?

Just know that where ever Christianity fails, iSLAM will conquer. Just like Jesus warned (John 16:2) It is part of the whole setup by God. You believe in Jesus, you do not suffer so much, you don't believe in Jesus, you do. There could not be two more polar opposite forces in humanity, both created by the same force that were liars from the very beginning. One to save humanity from itself, the other to end it. It comes down to a choice for every single person who is not an NPC or put on this earth to challenge others, because now "they no longer have an excuse". Before you get pissed off at the way things are and have been setup, think about the difference between God and humans, a creator and it's creations. The servant is not greater than the master-- this is why leftists and left path ideologies have such terrible hearts and lives and do such damage, they can not comprehend that lighter path of friendship offered by their creator but seek to act like the master and dominate, once again, for a lie they tell themselves. In your heart, you know this to be true, and you will have no one else to blame but yourselves. There were plenty of warnings.

meant to say "Christians were able to somewhat hold back Jewish influence historically".

And that's true. Christians did hold back Jews somewhat

No they didnt. Christianity brought jews into Europe.

Christianity is what allowed judaism to persist and gain almost complete global control. Christians are their greatest golem.

Here is the Truth.

Anyone against Christ is a cucked pawn of the ZOG

Total opposite is true. All Christians are Zionists, and Christianity is the original Globohomo.

Jesus wasn't even a real person, you dummies

pic related

Worshipping a dead jew never "works".

Which Protestants are these? The ones that worship Isreal or the ones that allow lesbian pastors?

Argueing over sects is part of the psyop.

no fucking shit

Timothy 2:12

you will never see a woman as a pope because Christianity is clear about women's role in society

the jewish banking dynasties such as rotschilds etc. only really gained any influence after the french revolution and the other secular revolutions in europe. Before that most jews were restricted to ghettos. The few moneychangers etc. we had in Christian europe had virtually no impact on society as a whole in comparison

If Christianity is truly the yoke that has been holding western society down, you'd think that things would be getting better as religion erodes.

Unstable vacuum. Most people are genetically predisposed to religious behavior. Taking away one religion doesn't result in people becoming enlightened, it just results in a new religion filling the void. This tends to be socially destructive since the old religion co-evolved with society and thus any socially destructive aspects were filtered out over the course of that evolution. New religions haven't been through the evolutionary filter yet, so they typically contain many socially destructive aspects.

No it's a valid fucking question that needs answered. Our people need spiritual unity of some kind, that much is clear. I don't like the Christian vs. Pagan or Catholic vs. Protestants d and c shit either, but there is a right and wrong answer here. That's why im so intent on us eventually finding a new faith that unites our people and leaves the ild divisions behind.Having half our race literally worshiping jews while the other half beats a drum and dancing around trees isn't going to work, but we can't be afraid to argue amongst ourselves in good faith. I'm gonna say what I think about various faiths on an anonymous forums because I think that's the appropriate place to have these discussions. I would hope these discussions eventually reach some sort of synthesis that works for our people, that doesn't mean we have to keep quiet about stuff that we genuinely think presents some kind of spiritual problem for our people.

you're a memeflag and a retard. Christianity is very much alive outside your echo chamber. Its literally exploding in the third world. Colombia, Brazil, Argentina, filled to the brim with churches. Mormons built a fucking huge palace in my city recently. You're clueless

In the late 1800's, Africa was being explored and colonized. The events here laid the groundwork for the future of the continent, and therefore all humanity.

Charles Darwin argued that the "savage races" should soon be killed off, and replaced with the civilized races. He then imagined the civilized races (Europeans) breeding themselves to remove the bad elements, and become a truly advanced race.
Darwin's successors like pic related fleshed out the ideas of eugenics, and were implementing eugenics policies.

Had these ideas been accepted and normalized, it would have laid the groundwork for a truly remarkable civilization. A world of largely white people, with advancing IQ's and rapidly advancing technology far beyond what we conceive today.
Had Africa been properly colonized and replaced with whites, it would be like the addition of 2 more "americas" worth of whites, which would have doubled the the number of white people on earth. And of the key northwestern white population, the effect would be a quadrupling or more.

Instead, Christianity came to rule our minds. Both explicitly through the church, and implicitly through the general culture. Instead of the strong replacing the weak, we got the entire topsy-turvey mindset of self-sacrifice, self-immolation, that defines our culture even today. This is why religion has been so harmful.
Both in South&Latin America, and in Africa, we lost the chance to build great civilizations because we were more obsessed with immediate profit and moralizing with the native peoples.

lotta satanic pawns itt, you will perish at this rate.

Millions of young boys in literally every country raped by priests and covered up by people at the top

Millions of native children taken away from their parents and "reeducated" until death and buried in mass graves

Gay conversion therapy

Witch hunts

Spanish Inquisition

Why not go back?

Average Anon Babbletard logic

hmm my country is full of violent faggot pedophiles, indulging in constant gluttony and drug use

the problem is the country is TOO righteous and religious!

churches have always been a front for all sort of criminals, its literally a mafia. What better way to hide your dubious behavior and business than behind a facade of sanctity. Thats how the world has operated for centuries brainlet

Christianity is GREAT, but only WHEN:

high trust society of normal people

that insists foreigner respect and adapt social norms when they come to live in it

NOT so great when:

Introduce parasitic psychopaths into the mix who then go on to hijack Christianity for their own purposes (jew-owned publishing houses printing/subsidizing Scofield bible)

TL;DR: The very thing that makes it viable in a closed system that you can only enter if you respect it makes it vulnerable in open system that likes insist on turning every society into

That is not what is happening, instead what has happened is that society has gone progressively more insane, nihilistic and degenerate

What you seem to be ignoring is that modernity is exactly what New Agers and fedoras want.

feminism

Just a recognition of the "Divine Feminine" or the new agers.

homosexualism/transsexualism

Prohibitions on these were always just "desert morality" holding them back from doing what they want.

purposelessness/nihilism

This is the founding principle of their faiths. Why would they think falling into what they already believe is a bad thing?

Good eye, Sherlock. Everything is full of Babylonian talmudism and islamism now, people we should have no communion with, we shall have no other gods in our Christian civilization. But nobody wants to listen, rather they all bought into this new internet edgelordism, first edgelord atheism and now edgelord paganism, anything but Jesus Christ. Western civilization was built by Jesus Christ, the open Holy Bible since the Reformation was the beginning of a new age and the rise of the western modern world (pic related). Rejecting our Lord and Savior results in hell, all sorts of chaotic antichristian jewish garbage. We should have let not one single antichrist (1John 2:22) in any position of authority in our western governments, yet here we are, and you can see all these little gremlin antichrists on here trying to get rid of the last remnant of Christianity, blaming Christ for things that their antichrist zionist political agenda did. (((Fellow white people))) that blaspheme Jesus Christ and shit all over Christians all day and every day. Antichrists are not your friend, they hate White people, they hate the West, and they hate Christ.
Observe the behavior and attitude of antichrists, do you want to live in a world full of edgelord degenerate bastard liars like that? I hope not.

>Introduce parasitic psychopaths into the mix who then go on to hijack Christianity

What about when parasitic psychopaths write the gospels?

Both Islam and trad Christianity are very similar. Hitler was fans of both. Evolution and billion year old Earth is fake and gay.

Christ existed before Judaism, dumbass.

Christ existed before Judaism, dumbass.

He references the torah, dumbass.
And also, he's a fictional midrash, but whatever.

He referenced Genesis because He's the one who told Moses what to write down. Jesus IS Yahweh/Jehovah the Creator God.

the mistake is in turning the other cheek

So what religion did the jews who read the torah follow prior to the messiah, if not judaism?

Christianity is a slave religion. It isn't a religion of glory. It's a religion of servitude and meekness.

all of the worst aspects of it are still there, concentrated into its secular offspring, the guilt-exploitation, the universalistic moralism centered around subhumans, etc.... there's a reason nearly every major church adapted itself quite well to it, there was never a real discontinuity

Yahweh was a foreskin-eating, goat and sheep and bird-blood devouring minor storm god worshipped by some gypsies on a mountain in a desert that somehow escaped containment and turned into a mind virus that lasted millenia and the 'antichrist' you mention from the coded propaganda cope book called Revelation to (not actually) John was just a not-so-subtle reference to Nero and 'armageddon' was just the persecution of the jews and christians that was totally gonna be resolved in a final battle with Captain Yeshua and his Avenger Angels in some jew valley called Megiddo, trust me bro

all these things will come to pass in your lifetime

t. some drunken schizo called Yeshua moments before getting merked for being a rabble-rousing fuckwit

why in the fuck should any white European person have this desert religion mind virus for sandal-wearing foreskin chopped desert people from across the other side of the planet as their heritage and the bedrock of their society, exactly? You're mindlessly repeating and following teachings misunderstood on a thousands of years removed from their purpose scale that had never been written with the intention of escaping containment that far out and it's just fucking retarded
ESPECIALLY for a fucking German

The original Israelites followed Yahweh/Jehovah (Jesus) and God the Father, Elohim. Jews don't believe Jesus is Yahweh though. They don't believe He's the God in the OT.

German

kek

Christianity and judaism are the root cause of most of modern societies problems. Even islam, shitty as it is, is better than that - at least it only enslaves part of the population, whereas christians and jews expect everyone to be a mindless drone obeying whatever their pope, patriarch or whatever other flavor of Führer they come up with says.

Modern pseudo-democracy is nothing but an evolved version of christianity. They no longer write the dogmas down in a holy book, lest someone disproves them, but the mechanisms of spreading and enforcing them are still the same. The entire system is still based on a small number of allegedly "unchangeable" laws beyond all reproach, which all somehow offer exceptions for the ones putting them down (human rights being dependant on supporting the UNs policies, for example), you're still expected not to question even the most absurd claims (cliate change, anyone?), and there's still "saints" every couple years, whether it's obama, thunberg, or selenski. Woe to the ones who'd question them.

Contrast these schemes with anything that isn't abrahamic in origin, where gods are allies at best, and often neutral observers or foes, and where challenging those that would oppose you is considered the highest duty, and tell me again how christianity is a good thing.

every. fucking..time.

talk all kinds of shit about america

well , turned goat fucker homes into bomb craters, shot a-rab people up, and (unfortunately) side with the jews.

Germans dont five a fuck. Germans are genetic cousins to white Americans. why would they even try and insult our race.

so when you see a "German" flag crying about america, crying about war, or any other retard hadji bullshit you know you're dealing with an invader, not a Deutscher. same goes for much of Europe

There are more christians today than any point in history you dumb beaner
this is a christian world manifest

we need christianity to solve the problems caused by christianity

You will not get any coherent response to this dude.
Nothing but screams of

”christ cuck!”

Just as mindless and deafening as the screams of

”Debunked by experts!

And

”Baseless conspiracy theories!”

You hear from liberals because at the end of the day they’re all the same thing.
Only Christian’s care about objective truth or even think it can exist.
That’s why liberals and atheists don’t hold themselves to logical consistency in debate; they don’t think such a thing exists.
Belief in objective truth is what allowed the west to conquer the world and as we stopped believing in it ( for a (((number of reasons)))) the west collapsed.

There's Christianity and Satanism. They want you to think these are your only options. They don't want you thinking for yourself.

retard image because the right side pics are from a majority religious world with over 2billion christians

Only Christian’s care about objective truth or even think it can exist.

kek

I would have almost agreed with you Ahmed and called this post based if not for the fact that Islam quite literally fucking means 'submission' it's right there in the name. Islam is literally entirely about obedience and subservience and affects your life down to a granular level to the point that you're not even allowed to have fun in any capacity like listening to fucking music.
Fuck right off with this muh Islam isn't as bad as the others it's the exact same Abrahamic brainrot as the rest of them and every society run by it turns into a hellscape almost immediately. Don't think you can decieve me into thinking its epic and based just because a few zoomer retard redpill gurus for it are currently in vogue
"yeah bro you're totally gonna be like a badass harem protagonist with a hoard of bitches and listen to Ye all day while dabbing on the jews" fuck out of here Muhammed, it's Yahweh all the way down

Christianity and western civ are intravenously linked but most of the decline is women and faggots and nonwhites coming to prominence. Christianity is the value system that kept these things in check and it's erosion is responsible for our defenses failing but in terms of things being good, it's primarily if a place is White moreso than if it's Christian. Scandinavia is the most atheist place on earth and it's also considered by many to be the most idyllic place on earth. Conversely, Haiti is 90+% Christian

Christianity is a retarded lie so no, getting rid of it isn't a mistake

Keep in mind that I'm not interested in any kind of polemics, or discussion about the veracity of the Bible or the existence of God, I'm exclusively talking about Christianity as a key part of Western civilization and culture.

Well then you are missing the point entirely. Because it is only by bringing people to christ through speaking the truth that can make more christians. It is only because christianity is the true religion, that it has produced the best societies there ever was. Etc. You are excluding the solution to the problem in your premise for discussion. Very silly.

What, you think there being zero normalizing influence would magically make the right side more normal?

what?

the point is that the caption is wrong

Only Christian’s care about objective truth or even think it can exist.

kek!
if you want to see a christian that cared about the truth, look at the west: caring about the truth is what killed the religion, in record time among the educated
if you want to see a christian-like religion that instead dug itself into its own dogma to avoid looking at truth, look at the islamic world
anyone who cares about Truth with capital T won't tolerate long the disturbing jewish-derived narcissism of thinking Truth is revealed to a certain people only and must be approached in the latter's language only

Christianity

the yoke that has been holding western society down

Who said that? The family guy cartoon writer guy?

Almost all new members of a religion are children of current members of the religion. Conversion is very weak as a recruitment method, indoctrination works best.

objective truth and the scientific method were invented by white mediterranean lads shitposting and no-homo-ing it up in a gymnasium before Yeshua was even a zygote you retard
muh enlightenment was actually the white man rediscovering and retvrning to their roots after hundreds of years of Christcuck woke mind virus in reality, not because of it;, I don't care what kermit-voiced lobsterfuckers say this is the truth and christkeks we wuz scientists has always been a cope retcon for getting Hitchslapped in the 2000s and still having no counter to any of the rational arguments

doesn't understand what was said

ngmi

what you said doesnt change the fact i stated doofus

I'm sure you feel that way, anon. Sorry about your bad luck. Hope the rest of your day goes better.

nothing to do with luck

What you refer to is not caused by atheism, but a reaction of the deeper layer of that disavowed religion.

Glad you are starting to realise OP; more are waking up - Christ Jesus is holy and righteous and only good comes from following Him!

You can actually track the improvement in civilisations across history, as Christianity moves out of israel to surrounding greece and eastern europe, to western europe, then to the US. Each time it took root, those socities flourished greatly, until they turned their back on God, as they all have done unfortunately, and they start to decay and rot.

ALL Glory to the most high and holy, the forever blessed and light of the world Jesus Christ!

youtube.com/watch?v=cbJIyzfkZlU

What is Reanaissance?

Brown hands wrote your gospel

Just ignore actual practice versus your cope theory. Kys like your messiah faggot

getting rid of Christianity

When did they do that? There are more born again wackos than ever.

Lmao fuck up christcunt

ITT: Adventures of a guy who just started paying attention

Christ is King and the God of the Christian Bible is the one true God.

For 1000 years real Christianity existed then God for no reason at all didn't return and allowed literate Protestants to tell the pedophile simonists in Rome to fuck off. The they won al the crusades versus those simonists. Yet those simonists are still God's favorite lmao

absorbs nigger DNA at levels unseen

You lose christgroid

I guess you want to gloss over the human sacrifices of the phoenicians

entire religion is literally completely centred around a human sacrifice

make it make sense

t. jew

If you are God's chosen people why were you killed and expelled by the Romans? When acient Hebrews were taken into Assyrian and Babylonian captivity, it was because they disobeyed God. What act around 0AD do you think could have caused this? Hmmm....

People in the west no longer require the primitive lessons of biblical tales in order to find direction in life. Our own logic can appropriate ethics without it now. And don't worry about Muslims. Most Muslims in the world yoday live in Indonesia, Pakistan, India and Egypt. With traditional semite and Arab Islamic fundamentalism nations, collectively being the lowest population of Muslims in the world, such as Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Afghanistan but with Iran bring the largest.

it was because they disobeyed God

Bible prophecies make a lot more sense once you realise that they're all just cope written after the fact by the jews going

w-we deserved it, Yahweh p-planned it the whole time but we'll be REAL faithful jews and Yahweh will lead us to victory this time, for sure TWO MORE WEEKS!

the Bible repeats this pattern so many times in the old testament every time the jews, being a poxy little nation of fucking losers of no historical relevance, just get bandied around by various empires due to historical happenstance
and then hilariously the early Christians do the exact same fucking thing with muh resurrection and Revelation after their messiah Rabbi "these things will happen in your lifetime" Yeshua gets insta-killed lmao

Bible prophecies make a lot more sense once you realise that they're all just cope written after the fact by the jews going

That's by definition not what prophecy is but nice incoherent ramble.

youre a memeflag
that means youre jewish
of course you would think that, christianity is the single reason you even exist.

Renaissance? What happened then? They abandoned Christianity? Kek

he said bible prophecies not actual prophecies.
bible should automatically translate in your mind as "fake; gay; jewish; intentionally misleading; retard-tier;", etc

thinks the books of prophecy were actually really genuinely written before the events 'prophecised' in them happened because... the text itself says so

actual low iq midwit
I bet you think the Genesis, Exodus, Numbers, Levitcus and Deuturonomy actually really were written by Moses too or that Matthew Mark Luke and John were actually written by Matthew Mark Luke and John don't you lol

pretty much. the great jewish-christian firewall broke and all of the greek classics europeans had known prior to christianity flooded back into europe and overnight theres an enlightenment, people are demanding rights and shit and dont want to live a life of serfdom. you know the spartans didnt have to work a day of their life for 800 years? thats what hellots were for. spartans got to sit around doing whatever they wanted because some people disrespected them and they made them their bitch. their women were so wealthy they were buying foreign kingdoms to fight each other for sport. thats peak white right there. men and women united against all external foes.

Been a long time coming. The take down of the old system...Christianity...for good or bad was the glue...it was the system. But the degenerates have been attacking it for hundreds of years. We are living in the disintegration of the old system and the emergence of hard core science and the age of human beings thinking their own powers of reason crush all else. Christianity had inbuilt awe or things incomprehensible. The new system has no room for that. It's all experts, science, formula, cookie cutting. etc

Except they did come true, for instance Israels fall was foretold of and youre not going to say for instance that the entirety of the old testament was written right as it happened.

meanwhile christianity was out here pioneering tranny science and shit. no jews required, just full blown spiritual jews. probably dabbled in the talmud all liek: "wow so jacob's mother was a 3 year old sex slave and when she eventually gave birth to jacob he became israel. my heckin ancestors!"

Except they did come true, for instance Israels fall was foretold

because they were written after the events had already happened you fucking brainlet

youre not going to say for instance that the entirety of the old testament was written right as it happened

no, like historians, I'm going to say that the more historically accurate accounts in the books of Kings were written first (corroborated with the most historical evidence outside of the Bible such as the Chemosh stele detailing that one battle that happens or Egyptian records of kings like Josiah etc) and THEN the captivity in Egypt and the Exodus were written (Yahweh is still just a storm god who lives in a mountain at this point) during the time when the Israelites were at war with the Neo-Assyrian Empire (who had conquered and were allied with Egypt) and THEN the early parts like Genesis were written (which heavily plagerises Babylonian mythology with Eden, the Flood etc) after the jews get BTFO by NebuCHADnezzar and are second-class citizens in Babylon and THEN they write the books of prophecy like Isaiah, Jeremiah etc going full cope mode TRUST THE PLAN messiah is coming TWO MORE WEEKS
and THEN hundreds of years later after a failed cultural revelation by some schizo rabbi Yeshua fails the early Christians in the second century when the competing oral traditions of said Yeshua already exist they write the Gospels (and Gnostic Gospels) and THEN Revelation is written when they're in full cope mode while being persecuted bye Based Nero tired of their politicking jewy bullshit

Based sir

Why are you calling me jew christkike? You didn't address any point dumb kike lover. Jews equally should be thrown in the woodchipper along with you Judeocucks

getting rid of Christianity

kek

No manuscript preceded the events dumb, gullible, brown christmutt

only a few specific groups have the time or inclination to spam anti-christianity so frequently. one of these groups (pajeets) is much more numerous and less skilled than the others

the majority of pajeets on Anon Babble hide the fact that they're pajeets. in addition to "leaving that part out" they will proactively, persistently misrepresent their true form. pajeets are all about assuming other people's roles, from today's outsourcing and replacement migration all the way back to thuggee bandits lying to travelers about who they were. pajeets are devoid of their own identity, making them the ideal globalized goyim. they don't want a home where they belong. all that means to them is "compete in squalor." much better to go somewhere nicer, built by other people, and do their jobs for less pay and live slum-barracks life in their suburbs. pajeets don't want to be home. they also don't want to be pajeets. jews know exactly how to play their insecurities and dopey ambitions like the innocent rube fresh off the bus from the cornfield. this is their new golem to replace the ones that don't love them anymore

This nigger is literally a gorilla

all pajeets are working for jews, including the ones who perform antisemitism and say all the things they learned to say on Anon Babble. they are also serving the jew agenda. how? by speaking english and living in everyone else's countries. spectre, multiculturalism, mass migration, kalergi plan. don't even bother acting like pajeets oppose jews in any way. they support jews simply by their nature, by crowding into every opening gatekeepers offer them to enter the west and degrade it

Death to the roman and orthodox catholic churches!

the vatican has a lot of money to destabilize the world as it autistically screeches because literate people can see how retarded and evil their cult is.

Again, who exactly got rid of it? There are still about 2.38 billion Christians worldwide.

Poo in the loo

Thank you bong. The book of Daniel shits on any concept of divine authorship

Christianity was what held the west together. Without it, we collapse.

because they were written after the events had already happened

We have the dead sea scrolls which go back to 500BC and show the text hasn't changed, so this is just an assertion without evidence. Ridiculous, really.

60 years of shitty Jewish and Government propaganda is who got rid of it's influence in society. The steady attempts at legally and socially undermining it is what "got rid of it".
The same elements that existed even something like 80 years ago would be illegal in many countries today. Especially in Europe. Just look at Britain and how it privileges a foreign religion even over it's supposed state religion in day to day matters.
Encouraging legal divorce. Undermining Sunday laws. Changes in courtship legalities and culture. Prayer and religion in schools.
If you you're atheist you consider it nothing more than an ideology right? How are you supposed to legislate or set social norms if you're not allowed to based on your ideological underpinnings? Which courts routinely try to block on grounds of "secularism" (i.e. love of the ideologies of faggotry and feminism)
I know the current dejure is to crow about the threat of "Christian nationalism", but does it bother you that it's likely your grandfather's likely would've met the technical definition? And they lived in more functional times?

>graphsaboutreligion.com/p/has-christian-nationalism-intensified

The cultural malaise here in America is strongly tied towards the decline of allowed expressions of our faith (which obviously ties heavily with morals). I'm willing to bet it's the same for Europe.
In America?

>pewresearch.org/religion/2022/10/27/45-of-americans-say-u-s-should-be-a-christian-nation/

>au.org/the-latest/articles/cn-prri-poll2024/

A large portion of voters maybe not be staunch Christian nationalists, but they want vaguely "Christian" laws. There is also a staunch core of supporters more dedicated. It's easy to get buy in from non-Christians who don't like the current trends too, just as what's happened with Trump.

>prri.org/research/support-for-christian-nationalism-in-all-50-states/

We are fighting to get it back. Fuck the courts.

It's the quiet revolution. Nobody even knows that their culture, their way of life, values etc are being and have been getting utterly trashed. Massive changes...mostly under the radar. The targets are almost completely unaware and put it down as just a natural progression or as progress or as 'well that's the way life goes'. The changes make sense to them, they accept them.

We have the dead sea scrolls which go back to 500BC

you know the fall of the temple of Jerusalem - when Nebuchadnezzar epically owned the jews - was around 587 BC, right?
the date you just mentioned there for the oldest fragments of the dead sea scrolls is after when they had already been conquered by Babylon (i.e. AFTER the 'prophecies' already happened) you absolute retard
and obviously you are saying this having no idea what dates those fragments actually correspond to. 500 BC is just the date that the oldest fragments are dated back to; some of them go all the way to the 1st century.

There is zero proof the 'prophecies' were written before the events happened.

Western civilization was never that good

Kike subversion mask slip moment