Why do men always have a problem with women’s body count...

Also, women don’t even care about men’s body count or sexual history.

That's why all of the insults Women have used against men for the entire time i've been alive have been:
He's a virgin.
He's an incel (2020+ version of the above).
He's got a small penis.

promiscuity is one of the best predictors of cluster b personality disorders. borderline, antisocial and histronic specifically.

they're not good people and no one you want any interaction with.

Why do men always have a problem with women’s body count,

why do men care about btc? why does btc have such a high value? because it's rare. should i explain it to you in pokemon terms? women that don't fuck around are rare and are keepers. whores know this and that's why they lie about body count.

conversely a man that can basically have any woman is rare and that adds to the man's value

You mean men prefer no body count. What's the difference between 1 and 1000? A whore is a whore. How many number of dicks is fine for the future mother of your children?

fucks some random guy(s) in hookups when she’s young, hot, fertile - actually has value

turns 26, not a virgin, not so pretty anymore, bitter from being used by men in her youth (likely quite sexist towards men at this point), and NOW she expects a good man, who is going to commit, spend money on her etc.

Really? So those other men could fuck her for free? But she expects someone to commit and invest in her once she’s already been fucked in half by guys who got it for free without commitment? Wot

Correct. Finally a white man worthy of respect

Let's say you just had a meal and you need a napkin to clean your mouth. Would you rather take option A: a clean napkin that was never used or option b: a napkin soaked in cum from 100 different dudes?

Master key vs shitty lock

the idea is that you will be walking about your town with your wife and other men will see you and laugh thinking about when they and their buddies ran a train and blew their loads all over your bitches face for free and now ur paying out the ass for her to annoy you

We just do. Men want that fairytale romance. You only get those with virgins.

richfag

I had that happen with a musician I had a thing for. She basically wanted me to pay her a $2000 monthly allowance. She literally spent 18-27 fucking broke bums that could play guitar well. I told her to get fucked and last I heard she lives in her car and gained a bunch of weight/hates men.

nah there's no 'value' if she doesn't get pregnant. you're not investing to fuck, you're investing to impregnate and support your family

you want her to be untouched so you can be 100% sure when you get her pregnant that it is yours, that's why we prefer as untouched as possible, but it doesn't really translate in a world where we have so many options for birth control, even paternity tests. the only other issue is just simple insecurity. which is fine, we don't need to act like it's something more

Her husband is Chinese as expected

Blow her fuckin head off.

why do men care?!

You don't need to know, you just have to accept that we do.
If you don't like being judged for it then don't be a slut.

You want your girlfriend to have been sexually conquered by other men?

At some point it gets gross
The more partners a person has the more likely it is that they've had an STD. I've also had friends with high numbers of sexual partners lie about having STDs, so now I just assume anyone who is promiscuous is a fucking liar and has had one. 90% you would be right to assume so.
It indicates lack of control, lack of self worth, lack of self preservation, lack of good decision making.
Also OP you are wrong in that women don't care, they 100% do, they don't like men with high "body counts" either. You're mistaking not being a clueless virgin with being a gross animal that will fuck anything that moves. Women don't want a clueless guy and that's it.

It's not the number of men they've fucked, it's their associated ego.

Reql love is special and exclusive
Women can't love, so body count is not a concern to them, even being in a harem is just a mild annoyance really if the guy is attractive enough
But some men can love, and most possess at least a fraction of that ability, and to them, this just feels wrong

Idc if it's just a handful
It's more the behavior around sex than actual body count. A whore is going to be difficult to keep happy, try to cheat. A normal chick that's slept with a few guys, all but maybe one she was dating, meh

Another man took your woman’s purity… she had that special, defining moment with another man - create a special bond that can never be replicated
And this doesn’t bother you?

Back in 2012 my biology teacher confirmed that telegony is a scientific fact. Where is my virgin wife? Where is my time mashine?

shut the fuck up, simp cunt

No, I mean I'm not a virgin either
It's not like most peoples first times are these magical experiences

I would make her body count, if you know what I mean.

I'm a 31 year old virgin, I won't be having sex unless I'm married. It's not hard to not have sex, why not just not have sex with whoever you marry?

It is for women
I hate to be the one to tell you about the surge of oxytocin they get when they lose their virginity

haha this reminds me, I was once listening to a group of women talk about their first times having sex, which is typically a universally bad or uncomfortable experience. But one woman said her first time was actually great, she had a guy that was gentle and sweet, adequate privacy, and he knew what he was doing and made the experience pleasurable and special. The entire room of women were fucking SEETHING at her. For a brief second I thought they were going to physically attack her. They were through all the stages of grief because of her answer.

Even women will care about in the future once they see how all of these whores turn out when they get middle aged. They wont ever be treated like ladies, just old whores.

1PBTID

memeflag

If you bumped this you’re a fucking idiot

because it ruins the relationship. this isnt very hard to understand.
see there are 2 kind of men
1. want sex
2. want relationship
the guys in #1 will lie and larp all fucking day long to get their cocks wet.
if a women spends a lot of time around #1s she will brainwash herself into thinking this is normal. this is how men are, men are her dogs, men will shower her with presents, men will drive them around, men pay for their phones, men will kiss their feet, all the women have to do in return is get fucked

this results in guys in group 2 always being treated the same way as the guys in group 1. women do not understand there is a difference.
if you are in group 2 yourself and you actually want a woman to build some kind of life together you are actually fucked because you have to compete against the fucking thousands of local sex addicted chads who have ruined all the women into useless sluts. no one wants sluts

i cba to waste my life being compared to 10 other men all the time who each did 1 thing better than me, sorry sluts.

Its the questions a body count of >0 begs.

“Did they have to provide for her like I do?”
“Was she more enthusiastic?”
“Did she do things with them she won’t do with me? Why?”
“Were they taller than me?”
“Were their dicks bigger than mine?”
“Did they make more money”
“Was she thinner and prettier back then?”

I think the rationale is that if any of the above are true, you are NOT the best mate she’s had, you are substandard sperm, and the chances of her leaving or cucking you are higher as a result. I suspect this is also the explanation behind increasing deviant and violent sex. Trying to prophylactically mog all the men who came before and also to obtain an honest appraisal of how much your girl loves you. The more shit and discomfort she will put up with to please you, the less likely she is to stray.

Someone should plot women’s average body count over time with the prevalence of anal and strangulation injuries.

Also, all of the above kind of implies that how sensitive a man is to a woman’s body count has to do with his own SMV. Those questions posed are more likely to be answered in a satisfactory way if you’re a gigachad and you know that statistically, your dick is the best she’s had.

ngl im an incel but i agree, unless she got a crazy number like 50 or something. if my gf did onlyfans or cheated or something id probably beat her tho

I've never seen any shit that showed it to be more powerful for their virginity than sex with a new partner/sex period
Even if it was, so what? On the off chance they had a good experience you just can't compete with that shit? You know how rare it is for chicks to even orgasm during sex early on?

Naw nothing wrong with a little bit of experience. Probably even a good thing most of the time, she doesn't have to wonder if she could be getting better and will be thankful for a man that can make her cum

Her head would look nice in my freezer

Those arent the two fundamental categories of men. We all run the same software and as such the limits of our desire are identical.

The categories are

has looks

has money

has neither

Where you fall in these 3 categories determines the type of sex life you have and the type of sexual access women permit to you.

Short term sex rewards only men in the first category. Marriage is SMV matching women’s attractiveness percentile with the combined quantity of categories 1 and 2 for men. Guys in category 3 are incel because monogamy is no longer enforced.

All married women who used to sleep around in thier youth were fucked by men superior in genetic quality to their husband. It’s almost guaranteed. The girl is younger and prettier, interested in only sex, craves Chad, and Chad does not say no to pussy. It’s literally just a matter of some girl deciding that she wants Chad’s dick. But then she has to settle for her SMVmatch when getting married instead of being hypergamous. This SMVmatch is not the top decile man. Sad reality, but there it is.

More like why would I bother building a bond with a girl who has already bonded with someone else…? Especially considering we likely won’t have as strong of a bond than she does with her first?
It’s just her biology. And let’s say that’s not the case - I still don’t want to deal with her bitterness/baggage from the last guy(s)

The roastie thing is a meme. It's a genetic lottery, some vagainas are like that.
My mom for example has a pussy like a baby, you can see the labia
Yet my sister has a big labia even when she was a virgin
Same as the "uncut dicks smell Thing
I am cut and mine smells in just two days of not showering while the dick of my father, who only showers once a week, never smells.

I would like to sell you a bucket. I have two for you to choose from:
1. Brand spanking new bucket. Never been used. Straight from the factory floor.
2. A used bucket. There's no way to know how many men have used this bucket, but there's evidence that they have all jacked off into it and wiped their dicks all over the handle. Some have pissed on it. Although it's been occasionally hosed off, there are still remnants of semen and urine inside of it and all over it.
Also, the bucket is angry and bitter because of this, and it is demanding that you treat it like a princess. This bucket requires constant emotional stimulation in the form of random compliments and affirmations.
When the bucket inevitably fails and stops working as a bucket, you have to put half of everything that you own in it and it all leaves with the bucket for some reason.

Which bucket do you want to buy, anon?

why do women have a problem with men who are < 6ft tall and < 6 figures? Men don't care about that at all or talk about that with other men?

it's almost like men and women are different and want different things from a romantic partner

why do you care? are you going to force me to fuck whores?

choker to hide Adam's apple - UNSUCCESSFUL

puffy sleeves to hide broad shoulders - UNSUCCESSFUL

loose dress below waist to hide narrow hips - UNSUCCESSFUL

verdict: TROON

Bro why the fuck do you know the intricate details of your mothers and sister’s vaginas? I’ve never seen my moms and the only time I saw my sisters was when we were like 4 and mom was showering us.

Such a non issue
You'd do better to worry about who has made her orgasm again and again
All kinds of shit causes oxytocin release and pair bonding. You could also apply your logic to a girl hugging any guy ever
Proper bonding is about the consistent dependable repetition of these interactions and hormone releases, you come to depend on each other for them, you're a source of comfort before you even touch
Pair bonding with someone new fucks up your existing pair bonds too. That's why therapists are so adamant about fidelity during separations if a couple is still trying to work things out

Fair point about the choker. Troons fucking love their chokers. They also really loved masking, it hid their robust, square mandibles. They love keeping bangs too, to hide the norwood.

I don’t think the person in that picture has broad shoulders though. those are typical narrow girl shoulders, Not capped delts hiding underneath the cloth.

this

Interrogate the average person on this and you’ll find most people actually believe men and women are the same thing, just with different genitals. Most people believe a man and woman cheating are the same thing. They believe “the concept of polygamy” applies equally to men and women, that the sexes seek out and desire the same thing in the opposite sex, etc.

In reality, a man has more in common with a male of ANOTHER SPECIES than he does with a human women, Atleast in a sexual/psychological way. My relationships with sex and violence are more similar to that of a male dog than a human woman, and really it’s these 2 qualities that influence my entire being.

sexual compeititon is zero-sum

in violence, I am a belligerent, I can not submit

The girls don’t understand the above 2 things

Also, women don’t even care about men’s body count or sexual history.

They do, but it's inverted. If you have little experience they get the ick and if you're a virgin most women wont even consider you

Yup. Because it’s simply assumed that there is no such thing as a male virgin by choice. If you haven’t fucked a bunch of girls, it’s probably because the girls don’t want to have sex with you. But it’s not like the girls are totally blind to nuance here. Not like the thing they seek out is “man has fucked tons of girls’. My younger brother is a good example of this. He is a total Chad at 21, but has only ever fucked one girl. He became a Christian after that and decided to not have sex again until marriage. Nevertheless, he is a total pussywetter.

That said, there is STILL value in having a high body count. I think it registers in the girls’ brains as “this man has and can support a harem, the hivemind has spoken and declared that his sperm is of high quality. I don’t want to miss out.”

If you tell a woman you've never had sex the chance she will have sex with you drops dramatically. Men and women really are opposites.

Men think women care about them at all because men are weak tards with serious delusions about how important they are. Yet they bitch about how women don't care about them, then behave like the truth is otherwise. Retards. Everybody has such an inflated sense of self-importance.

Yup. Because it’s simply assumed that there is no such thing as a male virgin by choice.

Irregardless of why women dont like inexperienced guys, its completely hypocritical for them to blame men for judging womens sexual exerpience when they judge mens sexual experience

it's not hard for me to stop being a virgin really, iam not an incel, just didn't make much moves towards women before, thought there's no rush.
But i l prefer a girl who's attitude towards virgins ranges from okay to positive, someone who looks eye to eye with me on romance.
This desire for "approved male" frankly disgusts me deeply

This is what europe used to be about; work to impress the local village slut (legal age(virgin))

Woman can start a line any time of cocks to fuck them. Men cant do this with pussy. Woman try to contradict nature with the apple. Those lame, and they lose. Men don't put up with their bullshit. Woman cant handle "body count" they become ratchet whores hell bent on their own vanity.

women are fucked up, the more experienced they get the more demanding and less likely to bond with you they get. if she is inexperienced she will bond with you a lot more strongly and wont walk out just because she got the ick from you drinking coffee the wrong way or whatever. it just is what it is.
meanwhile i know total manwhores who have bedded a crazy amount of girls who still turned into simps for their girlfriends. it just doesnt work the other way around, for whatever reason.

The fact women get so defensive about it proves its a real concern

Lurk moar, new fren.

Sluts bad. Setting aside stds and pregnancy, they want sex without a relationship or they're too much trouble to bother dating in the first place. No one wants that shit unless they're pathetic low standard beta pushovers

Why do men care about a women's past?

Why do women care so much about a mans future?

Vaginas are self cleaning and women take showers. So the bucket analogy doesn't apply.
Essentially this. It's just human nature. There's no logic behind emotions like disgust and attraction. Men are disgusted thinking about a girls previous partners and women flock to men who already have women.

hypocritical

Nobody is governed by logic or fairness or intellectual honestly. The girls have no imperative to not be hypocritical. Infact they are kind of adversarial, on the whole, and the sexes can be thought of as eachother’s natural prey.

We don’t care about women’s height. Does this mean they don’t care about men’s height? Notice I didn’t use the word “should”.

irregardless

you mean regardless. It’s technically a word only because it’s erroneously used so often that the dictionary made it a word. It’s defined as “regardless” lol

tfw you read the thread

tfw your opinion is already essentially in it over and over again

Never change, anons.

Would you wear a pair of socks already worn by 20 different people over the last 10 years0?

Yes obviously. But these women believe that they are fair and that they are being oppressed

Dilate trannoid

Let's say I had a friend named Justin who has a great job, is articulate, smart, masculine and is looking for a wife. I decide I'm going to play matchmaker and introduce him to 10 women. Of the 10 women, 5 of the women are virgins and the other 5 have been serial daters. Which of these 5 women do you think Justin will find to be more pleasant to be around?

I don’t care about whores body count. Nobody does, really.

why do men care if there potential partner is a whore?

t. roastie

this is a stupid scenario, it's like you've never talked to actual people before.

If they don’t care and we shouldn’t care about their body count, then they won’t have a problem with having RAW sex with a monger, right?

like women don’t even care or talk about that with other women?

They don't talk about it because it's a source of shame lol

the dick of my father, who only showers once a week, never smells

man u kikes have issues

women believe silly things

You don’t say.

One thing that permits the silliness of women’s thoughts, beliefs, and worldview, is that the friction with which they interface with the world, and ultimately their position/success in life, does not depend at all on the accuracy of their thoughts and beliefs. They can be totally divorced from reality, and reality won’t push back in a meaningful way because everything ends up working out for the girls because we really really really like to stick our dicks inside them. Please understand the immense value of possessing eggs. You can get away with anything.

if body count is >0 then nobody cares lmao

depends on their age honestly. young virgin women are the best but if a woman gets to her late 20s, early 30s while still remaining a virgin its very likely that she is only a virgin because she is mentally fucked up, not because she is virtuous.

Men don't care either, the body count of women is high because men prefer to coom anyway, so after the initial disappointment they date literal whores anyway.

How is it a stupid question? The women who have been serial daters have had other men imprint onto them sexually and spiritually. Considering none of their relationships worked out it would be fair to say they were not in the best relationships and come with baggage that the virgins don't have.

Yes, it's really that easy to shit all over op.

But there is a reason that is worth exploring further. It’s not self evident why we don’t like this, Atleast not to the girls..the word “whore” here is loaded and is worth examining further. There’s a lot hiding under it. The explanation is gonna be Darwinian.

Why do men have instincts?

FTFY, memeflag.

I meant to specify that all the women are young and all relatively attractive.

Considering none of their relationships worked out it would be fair to say they were not in the best relationships

Only men value permanence in relationships. Women don't see relationships as "failed" just because they are over.

Is someone dated multiple people in their early 20s this person needs to be stoned, kek
No, scratch that, whores and serial daters need to be stoned regardless, but this is particularly egregious

Because women are only good for being used, but nobody wants a used up woman

Also, women don’t even care about men’s body count or sexual history

You're telling me they aren't going to care that I'm a wizard khv?

Bump

The explanation is that the best way to predict the future is by observing patterns and choices from the past

Exactly and the original question was about a woman's body count and why men care about it.

Why do men always have a problem with women’s body count

Because cuckoldry is to men what rape is to women.

It's like asking why women have a problem with rape. If I was alone in the woods and a random woman shoved her tits in my face I wouldn't find that traumatizing.

Also, women don’t even care about men’s body count or sexual history

Yes they do, they just go the other way. Women find virgin men gross. You can see this in how they argue and insult. When they want to put a man down, they compare him to a virgin because women think virgin men are disgusting. If a man abuses his GF, they call him a virgin even though he obviously isn't one, because they find being a virgin more offputing than being an abuser. When you call people names you always call them something worse than they actually are. Nobody calls actual mentally handicapped people "retards", the call normal people retards when they fail to meet the intellectual standards expected of normal people. Virgin, incel etc being the go-to insult for women shows that women think this is the worst possible thing a man can be, which proves that women do in fact care about men's body count.

Women’s body count lives rent-free in every incel’s head.

It's the opposite. Women are the ones who are insecure about it, which is why they constantly try to mock men for their preferences.and expect them to justify it. If your sexual history is so different from mine that I can't relate to you then I don't find you attractive. That's it. I don't dwell on it any more than I dwell on other shit I don't find attractive, nor do I feel any need to justify it. Does not being attracted to short men mean women are "insecure"?. It's all projection. Women get insecure at the thought of men finding them less attractive for this reason, hence why they obsessively try to convince men that it doesn't matter.

Even neglecting the psychological damage to relationship ability with repeated failures, past behavior is still by far the best predictor of future behavior.
If you're number five (let alone 20) what makes you think you're super duper special and there won't be a number 6 or 21? If you ignore that, you're just dumb and in some way deserve to be cucked and/or abandoned.
Note that even that is the most optimistic estimate of future behavior, since as said earlier women go through gradual psychological degradation with every new failure to get a husband and family.
Even if you somehow ignore the predictive argument for her capability for marriage, promiscuity is so strongly correlated wit a vast amount of physical and psychological disorders that it's a sure red flag.

I don't know why I keep getting surprised at how stupid some people are. I don't even know why you are bringing up spirituality. What the fuck makes you think that your friend Justin will even get along with the virgin women enough to want to fuck them, let alone get into a long term relationship? One of the serial daters just might have all of he's looking for and none of the virgin women even registers as appealing to him. You have an idolized version of women in your head because you don't think of them as people. I know a few virgin women, they all have different personalities, you can't tell anything about their sex lives just from their personalities, or the way they look, or dress.

Because you will be always, always compared to her first. Even if She doesn't say it out loud.

Oh you want to start a relationship with me anon

Sure, I may have fucked around with 100 other men, but I'm sure you and I will be different

It's not that hard to figure out

It's biology
A woman can always know it's there baby, because it literally came out of her. A man cannot. But he can be more confident when his woman isn't a slut that sleeps around

For men, it is a disgust, and it is instinctional, not a rational one. However you can rationalise this disgust very much

On a more primal level:

woman fucks with everyone

who knows if her kid is mine

Simple as

Are there certain futures you’d like to avoid? Might those be the same futures that I and every other man would like to avoid? Then your explanation can be broken down and reduced even further. I’m telling you it’s gonna be Darwinian, lol.

Nice hive mind moment... based

women's wombs are the only thing of value they possesses. if they give unlimited access to it to any man that wants it there is something fundamentally wrong with them psychologically. They are damaged goods.

What men have that is of value to women is resources and strength to provide for and protect them and their offspring. Women see it as a victory to be able to "tame" a wealthy and powerful poon hound and tie him down to one woman. It is no accomplishment to fuck a whore. No one values anything that anyone can have. value comes from something being rare

Old hag roastie
Swipe right in grief
No man wants your rotten roast beef.
Now go chug some booze
While I lay down the news:
Men want debt free virgins without tattoos.

based haiku man

Vaginas are self cleaning and women take showers. So the bucket analogy doesn't apply.

We aren't talking about the physical vagina, we're talking about brain development, desensitization etc. It's the same way "big dick energy" has nothing to do with the physical size of a physical penis, it's about aura, attitude etc. Nobody wants a desensitized women who no longer gets butterflies, who has already explored everything, who no longer gets obsessive, who can no longer share formative experiences etc.

if you don't care about a woman's body count, you are probably brown.

Nobody wants a desensitized women who no longer gets butterflies, who has already explored everything, who no longer gets obsessive, who can no longer share formative experiences etc.

I went bald at 18 and never got to have a youth. Never had a young gf. Shit like this makes me want to rope. I understand it’s about the most valuable thing in life, better than heroin, and I didn’t get to have it.

Essentially this. It's just human nature. There's no logic behind emotions like disgust and attraction.

There is logic behind it, it's just not explicit logic on the part of the person feeling those emotions. There are logical reasons why those emotional responses evolved however.

In the case of men finding the idea of marrying a non-virgin gross, it's because of brood parasitism. If another man impregnates the woman and you invest your energy into raising the child then you go extinct. The other man and the woman have just reduced you from a human being into a resource battery. Disgust, pain, trauma etc evolved to protect men from this.

but what if there are no children

That's like saying women shouldn't find rape traumatic if the rapist wears a condom. For most of our evolutionary history sex was tightly coupled to reproduction, so emotional responses to protect people from reproductive exploitation often trigger from sex rather than reproduction itself.

You sound like you've never had real friends and have only ever talked to casual acquaintances who aren't open with you and just say whatever's socially convenient.

better than heroin

I can assure you it's not better than herion.
It's completely retarded and anybody who says differently is a retard who never grew up.

"Puppy love" is completely shallow. You can see the same thing happening under a microscope looking at an amoeba replicating. Just to retarded monkeys bumping uglies. Do you think a rapist is achieving something when they force themselves on another? Do you think a lion is achieving anything when it takes down it's prey?

you didnt miss anything, no one ever marries their "fisrt love' 99.9999999999% of these experiences ended in heat break and jaded the man for the rest of his life. Young women are just like older women except they are stupider, more entitled and narcissistic and sluttier.

The grass is always greener on the other side. Stop being remorseful over something that only exists in your mind

Nah, he's right.

It doesn't really mean much but "serial daters" are almost always bpd or have some other personality disorder. It's pretty well documented that sex addiction in women and men is related to mental illness.