Older Anons?

Liberals couldn’t shut the fuck up about George Bush Bad for 5 minutes.

No Bush was a silly little joke neo con
He choked on a pretzel and I think fell off a bike
He was a male cheerleader
He was a dork
There was a show called That's My Bush and a cartoon making fun of him

No one called him a Nazi
No one hit any of his supporters in the head with a bike lock
No one tried to ass ass in 8 him
You would not get your ass beat by niggers for wearing his hat out in public

After 911 no one made fun of him anymore and he became a beloved war time leader which looking back LOL

I'm almost 40

It was maybe 1/1000th as bad as it is today. Republicans got made fun of by the media (for example, the rise if Jon liebowitz stewart) but so did liberals (mostly by south park). But nobody hated you for your political stance. Now you can get fired for being aligned with the wrong party. People are protesting literally everything. Lawfare has become its own lucrative industry. Media is out of control, especially online. Basically the more popular the internet got, the worse things became.

the dems have compared every republican to hitler since nixon
dubya made dems seethe and they had the same cope about him: he's dumb, but also fake and tricking everyone, etc.
the main difference is that dems pretended not to be socialists and didn't embrace gay marriage . Obama rejected gay marriage when he ran.
there were also about half as many mexicans and indians and nigs
but as far as screeching about whoever was the main republican? same shit different day. they just had less mentally ill faggots prancing about so openly.

Listen to you homos suck up to the NWzo sucking off Bush and Cheney. Neck your selves. Trump is not a bush or a cheney how dare you faggots say they are the same! BTW Gore did win thry used the same diebold computer cheating techs that where normalized for Obama (Bushes Coke Dealer) and finalized in 2020!

This guy gets it, we're in a cold civil war

no one tried to kill Bush

Did you forget that kino video where someone throws a shoe at him and his ultra instinct kicked in and dodged it?

no 2000-2008 was good and normal

No
But then again I went to a shitty public school as a brown kid in a sea of ghetto blacks, Mexicans and mixed race kids who all aspired to be rappers and thugs. My experience isn’t unique for that time, nor will it ever end for others.
I faced racism a bunch during that time and was called a terrorist, etc. by southern country kids and blacks alike. Being in poverty tier settings fucking suck. Even had one middle school teacher actively bully me with the other kids. Etc.

Yes. Clinton was just an ol horndog, bush was made out to be stupid, Obama was peddled as cool, Trump was an evil nazi, Joe biden was mentally acute and now Trump is an ultra maga mega evil nazi.

Liberals couldn’t shut the fuck up about George Bush Bad for 5 minutes

cheney was running the country though george was just playing golf an posing for dramatic photos.

There are no good.muslims.

They accused Bush being a Nazi and Rumsfeld as Palpatine

not even close, it really only started slightly after the occupy wall street movement

Guess you weren’t alive for bullshit went down in Florida

That doesn't count, that was an insult not an attack

I’m not Muslim, but I’ve met a few cool ones

Bush

beloved war time leader

what the fuck are you smoking?

I don't think that counts as an assassination attempt. Does anyone have that meme thats bugs bunny in a suit and its like "I wish you a very pleasant anniversary of the time you threw a shoe at george w bush"?

That's how he was viewed in 2002 zoomer
Every house had an American flag
He had a blank check to go into any country he wanted after 911

I was young-ish, but I definitely don't remember everyone being at everyone's throats like it's been now

it wasn't Bush. It was Colin Powell. Bush was the bumbling idiot who froze in panic.

They were. Social media wasn’t a thing yet

Since the creation of our nation, things have been 'this divided'. What changes over time is the willingness of each side to destroy the country rather than to lose an argument. This willingness ranges from low, as when the nation united after 9/11, to high; as in the case of the 1850's and now where there are large segments of the population willing (and desiring) civil war.

In the case of the 2000 election, Bush technically won because a large number of democratic voters were too stupid to property fill out their ballot. The democrats then tried to use legal trickery to make those invalid votes count; and it went to the supreme court. And, in spite of protesters occupying the senate in an attempt to stop the certification (sound familiar?) enough people at the top of the DNC were still unwilling to let the country split apart, so they lived with their loss.

An old school example (and see image)... The democrats were responsible for the first major economic depression in the US (the Panic of 1837). But rather than accept blame, they attempted to blame the whigs (who weren't even in power during any of the key years). Their delusion got so bad that (see image) you had stores willing to accept bad bank notes, just to stick it to the Whigs

Nah we all just chuckled about fuzzy math and lock boxes or some shit. The Jewish controlled media kept things pretty quiet since he was operating with them to make 9/11 happen. Since he was with them fully on the terror attack that would catapult us into a war in the middle east, they didn't have rampant hysteria against him like trump. Granted trump loves Jews too, he's clearly not willing to cooperate with them in their greater Israel project.

When it turned out that the Iraq war was based on lies and that Saddam never had any WMDs everyone votes democrat to get him the fuck out of office, nobody realized the damage that Barry would do.

That was in Iraq a journalist threw a shoe. It's a Arab insult.
Due to the Iraq War, Bush was called Hitler and Dems started to become deranged. Bush never answered them or pushed back.

Also the public got really fucking tired of having 9/11 shoved down their throats 24/7

Only for like ~6 months until the Iraq war propaganda set in. Pol were mad about it for a minute tho

Anon Babble were commiefags and libertarian back then, nobody liked neocons. Ron Paul was god until the actual naxi's took over.

This.
I am 50 and I have never seen division this bad.
I have talked to people who remember the late 60s and they have not seen division this bad.
I had a bad case of Bush Derangement Syndrome and I cringe to think about it, because he was a saint compared to Obama, Biden and Trump 1.0.

In the 2000s, nobody was itching for a race war.
All the little people still believed in democracy.
Only a few crazies thought Mad Max was a serious possibility.
The government being complicit in a bioweapons attack that killed tens of millions would have been unthinkable.
Nobody knew anything about the Weimar Republic, Jews, Kalergi Plan, etc.
Nobody thought the dollar would soon be worthless.
A Muslim invasion of Europe would have been unthinkable. Their alliance with the PC Left would have been unthinkable. Child trannies would have been unthinkable.
Good women could still be found.

also to be fair, the nazis got their credibility from the 2008 housing market crash where every fucking kike with a video camera lied to your face about the criminal transfer of wealth to jewish people that would soon be done again but this time it will be daring you to do something under covid.

Most of us didn't become redpilled until the George Zimmerman trial, that was probably the greatest awakening of Anon Babble and the internet in general.

the 60's were worse because there was less talk and more action. So today, you have protesters burning newspaper boxes; back in the 60's, we had:

nationwide bombings and arson, mainly of military and local police

widespread violence in the schools (in my area, the K-12 teachers secretly carried weapons just in case

political kidnappings

random acts of anti-social acts (like dumping lsd-laced candy in the playground of elementary schools

The 60's was pretty fucked up, in spite of peace and love music scene

The internet wasn't as big and smart phones didn't exist so people weren't immersed in political culture 24/7. There would just occasionally be an anti-bush protest and some people would go to it and then they would go home and get on with their lives.

Nah, Jon Liebowitz started the March for Sanity, where jews learned how divide and conquer by promoting social unrest from niggers and homosexuals.

Aussies were running literal death squads through Iraqi villages.

No. After the Obongo and Biden printing the left needs to be genocided. Every believer, free rider and opportunist of public subventions has to die together with his family.

12xing the monetary base and giving it to "woke" that's good enough to legitimate a genocidal event

People were deeply afraid after 911 most left wingers thought we were heading into world war 3 I’m still surprised it didn’t happen

You motherfuckers were a problem an Veitnam too. What about hearts and minds evades your irish criminal tiny brains?

The media seethe at him, but nowhere near as bad as they do now. We used to have an unspoken rule that you just live with the results of the election. 2000 was said to have been rigged because Florida took weeks to count their votes and it was the deciding state.

It was fucking rigged, democratic republic concept died with JFK.

Remember when an actor went on Saturday night live and said, "George Bush doesn't care about black people" during hurricane Katrina.
Who was it again???

Bush was the worst sleezy jew good goy ever. Brain dead Biden not as bad. Hell the endlessly tricked bush with their end of the world battle... Middle East wars would bring Jesus back... crazy shit. Bush would rant about the final gaylord battleground or whatever that stoopid fairytale called the battleground

I would bet that the person you are speaking of had Kanyes cock up his ass.

I lived in Germany back then and that's when the euros started hating America for their capitalist ways.
The fact that they are more than complicit in this system of kike loving is beyond them. When it comes to jews, they are damn near blind.

Arrogant soft faggots

They made fun of Reagan in liberal media, in some comics and music videos. Some made fun of Nixon too.

News was more partisan in the 00s. People on here on don't remember because they were children or not paying attention.

In the 90s sometimes it was Bill being criticized by right-wing news. The 90s were actually less politicized though.

But Pedo Bill and Child droner Obummer are the good gays to most media. Most media is left-wing in USA.

There was media aganist Bush, news and entertainment.

Even Obama admits America is very divided these days. It just decades of pressures boiling up.

Margaret Thatcher saved the UK, and they still blame her for everything.

No, division started right on the money after Occupy Wall Street.

It was Edward Norton after a stint in state prison. He didn't always used to simp for niggers.

He had Kanyes dick attached to him

Not really. Within the context of politics, sure, it was quite divided, not quite as much but still very divided.

The thing was that there was still a huge space in the culture that was outside of that context, and it wasn't divided entirely down political lines. And there was still a very active anti-establishment feeling that was political without being entirely captured by one political party or another only to fuel activism against the other ones.

So there are two main angles - first the entire culture wasn't absorbed by politics to the degree it is now, and second the political action wasn't absorbed by the establishment to the degree it is now.

During the early and mid 2000’s during the bush administration were things this divided as they are now?

No.
The media went against him and there were leftards who had a sort of Bush Derangement Syndrom but they were a very small part of the left.
It was generally business as usual, although it was fashionable to say that Bush was Hitler and that he was a dumb retard grabbing his Bible and guns and shit, but it was nothing like what happened with Trump.

did things feel as divided

No. People disagreed on policy but it was more nuanced and polite. After 9/11 everyone rallied behind Bush and let him do anything he wanted, passing a lot of authoritarian measures. Criticism of his regime intensified with early internet culture around 2006, and in the mainstream media after Katrina was botched in 2005.

were women going on sexual strikes

Nope. Maybe some very very fringe groups.
The biggest opponents to his regime at the time were libertarians, which causes the ideology to take off online, leading to the Ron Paul revolution.
Unlike Trump, social media wasn’t a thing then so the mainstream media completely buried Ron Paul’s presence, typically referring to him as “other candidate(s)” and not even addressing him by name.

Actually, there was division, but it was the feeling that nobody in DC cared about the rest of the country. When Al Gore ran against W the tldr was that they were for all intents and purposes the same man. When Kerry ran against him it was pointed out that they belonged to the same fraternity at the same college.
If you're whining about "division" instead of a perpetual war uniparty that destroys the economy, you are the problem.

I really wish we'd listened to the French about Iraq. Fucking spineless Britain and Germany not standing up like France.

The trips of thruth, cant fight it.

Thatch was a prime cunt, but bongs and krauts are a dead race. Two world wars in a generation will do that. You literally killed all of your strong men.

Third main angle: America was thought of as a white country. Sure it had a few black containment zones and had a growing Mexican population that was becoming difficult to hide / ignore. But America was seen as a white country.

And nobody really considered jews as non whites outside the few people in the know. Jews were thought of as white Americans and were invisible as jews for the vast majority of Americans.

People have been getting consistently more retarded and NPC-like over the decades. Criticisms of Bush were mostly valid. The reddit generation (millennials) were largely indoctrinated into politics by this jew which I believe is why they think every political debate has to be snarky and pretentious.

That was New Orleans mayor Ray Nagin crying about the pace of federal relief efforts.
Nice get.

No. Like, people didn't burn down cities back then. But nowadays the Bushite glowniggers lead Americans in the act of burning down American cities. The Bush Family despises Trump because he ruined their plans for a dynasty of President Bushes. The Bushes have a crop of brown Bush boys coming up intended to appeal to the Latino demographic replacements that the Bushites brought in & amnestied.

Not as divided, still divided though.

nah, king nigger started it with OWS shit. before that you could (rightfully) call someone a fag for talking about politics

Half of Europe are french rape babies from the Napoleonic wars. Sure they all died of frost bite and starvation, but they warmed their cocks in every german and russian girl they could find, creating your grandparents.

I'm 45 and I think this is accurate and well said.

I would nitpick that 2016 was worse than now and the coronahoax was notably worse than now, but that's a little beside the point.

LOL. The seething against Bush was enormous durign his first term until 9/11. They yapped for month about how he stole the election from Gore thanks to his brother, who was the governor of Florida. What are you even talking about? The actual non-happenign was Bush vs Kerry. Nobody bitched about that. Since Kerry had zero substance or charisma and Bush had a war and mega-nationalism as a second-wind.

A Muslim invasion of Europe would have been unthinkable

In the 2000s

Nah, Paris and London were already shockingly like a third non white.
But back in the 1990s there were literally wars for ethno states (Yugoslavia) and shitskins were put in their place regularly by "rough guys" (football fans, rowdy teenagers, the local criminals). Even London and Paris were around 90% white in the mid 1990s.

It's amazing how fast they fucked it all up.

At that time the people who were fully anti-Bush were also openly critical of the Democratic establishment. Occupy was completely critical of Democrats and Republicans, they were directly criticizing a Democratic administration (failing to) dealing with the fallout from the 2008 recession, and they were completely fine saying that it was the Bush era policies that caused it.

The thing where people have started to go all in on 'if you criticize Biden / Harris you're pro-Trump' or 'if you criticize Trump you're pro-Biden / Harris' only became big in the last ten or so years. There definitely WERE people who made this kind of argument before then, but they were considered to be fairly extreme themselves.

It wasn't seen as a 'white only' country, but there wasn't this comprehensive 'every good thing was the result of some non-white influence' attitude. There was still a feeling that the basic American system designed by the white founders and practiced by the white population was itself a very good system, if only if would be applied fairly to everyone. Since then the left or liberal establishment has gone very strongly against this attitude.

The seething against Bush was enormous durign his first term until 9/11.

So... a year? nine months?

No, in Bush II time niggers were the main minority, and they were just niggers and everybody knew that.
You couldn't think of "an American" and think of a nigger or mutt.
Mexicans were even less "American".
Sure, there were long standing Meximutts in the Southwest and Cubans in Florida, but Meximutts and Latrine Americans were thought of as foreigners, it was ridiculous to consider them Americans.

It was what it was. There was a white culture that was super dominant although blacks were appearing in music, films, sports... there was no confusion.

GenX here. Voted for Kerry in 2004. BUT Dubya wasn't nowhere near as bad as this douche Trump and his Frankenstein's monster Musk. Medicaid to be eliminated and a $500 billion cut to Medicare all for the One Percent's tax cut that can't be paid for. The silver lining is the Republican Party will.go extinct. Nobody can tolerate this shit.

The Daily Show was a brilliant example of social programming executed to perfection. As you've said, NPC behavior in debate is snarky and pretentious, because this guy was framed as the reasonable position during an era they were impressionable. Learned behavior from TV, but completely inappropriate for society. A hallmark of MKULTRA programming.

No one called him a Nazi

Everyone called him a Nazi back then. "Bush is Hitler" "Bush is a Nazi" signs were everywhere.

faggot

Only completely indoctrinated retards believe the television and internet. There is no division, just false consensus and narratives created by polit8c8ans and supported by the media.

faggot

Lmao

Seethe

During the early and mid 2000’s during the bush administration were things this divided as they are now?

Questioning 9/11 and the invasion of Afghanistan could get one blackballed until the invasion of Iraq and the supposed WMD's. Iraq was were the evil came out.

Obama's election in 2008 was a response to McCain and Bush. The democrats sold out the country instead of fixing it so in 2016 Trump won. The Republicans want to destroy America. Now the Democrats want to destroy America. The military industrial complex runs this country not the people. DOGE ensures a total blackball now, similar to 2001 post 9/11 but now if you question you will have your money cut off. So no one could take total control because all those corrupt programs weren't checkable. Now they are so whoever does the checks has the power, so Hegseth and the military contractors.

tldr there was a split but by 2015 both sides were corrupt. Now it is a fight of who rules corrupt mountain.

after 911? no

Seeth

Lmao

The lefty media malded about Bush throughout the entirety of his presidency; they said the exact same things about him and Cheney that they say about zognald today. But the average person didn't care as much what your political views were. That all changed in 2012.

You could actually go read about it in real time, if you dig up archives and old forums. It's actually kind of incredible when you think of it. You can watch in real time how the far right turned out to be right about everything. If you read stormfront.org, you will come away from it more or less convinced that the White Nationalists were basically a super intelligence club.

did he make dems seethe as bad as Trump

No.He was mocked a lot for saying goofy things, and the wars he started were mocked. The Dems back then were more like MAGA ironically and a lot of decent comedy as well as cringe came out of this era. Team America summed up a lot of the popular sentiment.
The Bill Clinton blowjob fiasco made people go absolutely mental and Bush never really had anything quite like that. He had 9/11 and he war on terror era, which he had a lot of support for but also a lot of flack. The Left's opinions were very idiosyncratic, loving globalism but hating Americas dirty wars. A lot of their fixations on niche issues.
A lot of it came down to hating America, Christianity and "stupid White men". There was a "hole in the ozone layer" back then too and global freezing or water world was a concern.

As usual, the only people who really had similar politics were the White Nationalists which is why the neocons and the left accuse their opponents of being White Nationalists. The Dem's back then were like the dog from family guy. His exact personality. You could get a good idea of attitudes from in-game media from the GTA series. Republican Space Rangers was how Dems saw Republicans.
It was a great era for OC style Punk rock and the Bush era probably seemed longer due to there being two Bush presidencies.
Internet culture existed and was already basically retarded, though it gave intelligent people a voice and NeoCons and Dems have been screeching about it since it started.

i'm old enough to remember Regan

How are you holding up? Health wise I mean?

During the early and mid 2000’s during the bush administration were things this divided as they are now?

no, thehy weren't.
there was division but not in the same way and not nearly like it is now: it seems impossible people would ever change their minds or consider another point of view now.
it wasn't like that then.

a lot of people on the right thought Bush was a dummy ---- they thought Cheney was controlling things, and many thought it to his own financial benefit. that American boys in uniform were dying tin the Middle East basically for Haliburton.
and they obvs didn't like this idea.
I was living in Dallas an heard it called "unAmerican" many times

today, Trump is like Cheney, if Cheney had been a funny attention whore.
except that now people think Trump is based no matter what he does

this uncritical worship is the massive difference

even lots of people supported Bush mainly because they supported America.
not getting that vibe any more - it's a cult of personality, zero critical thinking involved

you lost tranny

Every main stream media outlet was saying Dick Cheney was Darth Hitler and Bush was an idiot.

how do you feel about that assessment, in hindsight?

you lost tranny!

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I grew up in the 2000s and was class of 2014. Nobody talked about politics. The only political thing I ever heard in high school was the legalization of marijuana which we all agreed on. Everything became political and woke in 2016 when Trump became president. Political discussions were unheard of when I was younger and nobody around me ever talked about politics. When Trump became president, all the people I grew up with began talking about politics and became radical leftists, they never once talked about politics before until Trump came along. Trump radicalized both sides. Trump is also why censorship on social media exists. Political censorship on social media was unheard of until 2016. Trump's presence caused the social media platforms to go into full censorship mode.

As much as now? No. Still, it was when much of this current strain of divisive libshit stuff started.
Gore tried for weeks to steal the election from W in Florida, and got all ragey when Gore lost, claiming a stolen election.
After 9/11 it was basically only a couple of days solidarity, then the left started going on attack mode.
They had TV shows like "That's my Bush" which portrayed Bush as a drooling uncouth imbecile of literal monkey intelligence.
The Daily Show dumped apolitical Craig Kilborn, who was actually funny, for Jon Stewart, who was 100% hardline leftist "comedy".
News outlets that in the past provided relatively neutral commentary (though liberal leaning) went full on propaganda politburo mode, while Fox ramped up Neocon propaganda.
Every day of Bush's presidency after a certain point was nonstop "Bush lied, people died", and highlighting Code Pink and their antics in Congress.
They didn't have the race stuff going on now, at least at these levels. LGBTQ alphabet people were generally ignored.
There was a growing concern for the borders at local levels as sanctuary towns and cities set up, and Bush was more than happy to ramp up immigration and ignore illegals. Democrats, of course, didn't object.
It was enough that right wingers largely started hiding their politics.

Obama was the victory lap for all the division created under Dubya actually.
Dubya tried to get everyone to hate Islamists then the liberal backlash became 'we love all islamists' to this day.
Then Obongo comes in and did his world apology tour constantly humiliating Americans and sowing racial division at every turn chirping into every media event "He could have been my son".

I was mad at Bush for 8 years straight for stealing the election, allowing 9/11 to happen then starting 2 wars - if you were not a retard it was obvious the 'Iraq has WMD' was a hoax and the washington Anthrax hoax confirmed it.

Like another anon said most people were along for the ride with me until the wars started and the media started 'support the troops' and if you're not pro war you are a terrorist psyops. The same friends/family who went along with it are the most rabid anti-Trump people now, most of them even cut me off because I told them Trump is funny and there is nothing at stake. The battle was lost in 2000 and 2004.

Most people have their opinions prescribed to them by media and groupthink. The truth is without the Bush 2 administrations we would be mining asteroids and building on Mars/Venus. Now we will never get off this god forsaken rock. 'Don't Look Up' is the most accurate movie made and no it's not an allegory for climate change.

It's complicated. Speaking out in public and online against the 'Patriot Act' was not a fun time. Keep in mind Bush takes office 02/01 and then 09/11. A media driven patriotism was all encompassing. So the dem/rep thing wasn't as big, each had their own reasons to be against those of us who extrapolated what those new secret powers would look like later.
Besides, Bush wasn't and isn't any different that Gore/Obama/Biden.
Look at the results: Things are worse than they were. It cannot be solved by tweaking shit, it needs to be broken. Trump is attempting that, and getting the expected pushback including assassination attempts.

No there has never been such division as now. Bush saddled us with Iraq but actually the invasion was approved with bipartisan support. They did some bullshit hearings and the media shit on Saddam like crazy, actually history channel had almost 24/7 Saddam is hitler reels. The nay sayers were cowed with just saying they are unpatriotic after 9/11. There was no dismantling the courts or intimidation lawsuits or anything like that. Obama had some gnarly commercials made about him but thats as far as it went, he got in and just acted like a normal person so the really hyper propaganda stayed on AM and the internet. Since Jan 6 basically government went into shock pretending if they don't act like they were stormed, don't rule like they were stormed it will all settle down and go back to normal politics.

Basically the new right revolted against the Judeo-Globalist NeoCons so any success for them was going to have to be radical.
Trumps base was basically already set up by the teaparty and Ron Paul runs. That's what's kinda ironic about Trump that the losers don't get. Losers claim Trump brainwashed his supporters, but, Trump only got into the driving seat of a vehicle that was already set up and needing a driver.
The Dem/Left never adapted. They basically went to sleep having succeeded in getting a Black gay president, and just went into their own little mental ghetto.
To his very day, across the West, the Left still do not grasp that the New Right HATE the NeoConservatives.
Arguably this is a consequence of their base being made up of low IQ narcissists and educated Women. The female factor is a big deal because women are conformists par excellence and have very self oriented tunnel vision that doesn't lend itself to political analysis. This is why so many of them have high qualifications while not really having experience in critical thinking. The political shift is more a result of the right being the new cool kids. The popularity shift, I assume, will make right wing politics more superficial and moronic but the intelligent have a greater reach than before.

Things were divisive but I always remember it being performative. People will actually kill over Trump now.

Bush was mocked a lot but it seemed like just teasing. After 9/11 any serious dissent was met with "so you want the terrorists to win?"

If that was real anthrax (the stuff made in a CIA lab for the hoax letters) how the fuck was it safe for this government nigger to take it out in public? Fuck it was a clown show.

Obama had some gnarly commercials made about him but thats as far as it went, he got in and just acted like a normal person

You're kidding me right? He was supposed to be the anti-war guy to replace "stupid old White men", he was even given a Nobel Peace prize in advance of him doing anything.
He proceeded to drive the world towards world war three, and destroyed Iraq a second time.
The BLM riots were already happening in the Obama era and the left and neocons only became more hysterical and absurd.
Even a lot of Blacks started to voice their contempt for Obama as well as voice concern that the anti White shit was going to make Whites go berserk.

Obama, the 2008 financial crash and the CIA operations in MeNa and Ukraine made it abundantly clear to everyone paying attention that war mad globalist psychopaths controlled the political parties in the USA and the West in general. It all looked so bleak for New Right Whites. The atmosphere was such that you can't really be too surprised about the Right Sector in Ukraine knowingly taking a risk by working with NATO and becoming a new ISIS style disposable revolutionary, got involved in overthrowing the government and calling on other White Rightists to go get experience, resources, training and contacts in the civil war for the specific purpose of exporting the insurgency to other countries. There had been no political right wing wins to make anyone think that a peaceful option was possible, so everyone back then assumed that they would be in some kind of civil war at some point and from their perspective Russia was just another multiracial/cultural empire so it was snakes on all sides.

BLM protests occurring while Black Libyans were getting genocided was peak globalism, and leftists liked Obama because he danced on Ellen an was Black.

I turned "adult" during that time in Switzerland, it was way different. Yeah you had the lunatic left that went nuts 2-3x per year smashing up mom and pop shops in the name of "anti-capitalism" and the lunatic right "bible thumper" that were in charge going crazy about fags or torching a asylum shelter once every 5+ years... They all looked insane and created my generation that didn't fit anything and still falls trough the net and feels without political representation.

Our School was in a borderline ghetto of guest workers and asylum fags, fights were common, so yeah if you ask me deport them all. We didn't care about fags, we made jokes about them but tolerated our ingroup fags and even protected them. Be as gay as you want I don't care just don't expect me to cheer you on. On the environment it was and is protect nature (keep lakes, rivers and forests clean) but nuclear power goes brrrrrrt to keep the economy booming.) We were anti war as I'm today so yeah I waved a peace flag and got teargassed for it, let's say it like this I still don't like the police nor do I trust the courts to do a fair job.
I thought Obama would blow up the spectrum, bring us some sanity and blow up the status quo.
I cheered on election night, ohhh boy was I wrong. He just turned the spectrum upside down and the same lunatic bible thumpers suddenly came up with trannies or nigger shit that threw the US and 1-2 years later Europe out of any orientation.
State of Europe: France, UK and Germany are authoritarian regimes worse than the GDR that let the status quo of 2000 look like paradise and even we're not that far gone. Fucked up extremists got their say in the day to day politics.
Obama in the US was the hope guy

Yes and no, back then people were in teams and now there are no teams.

Media was entire controlled narrative

The right fragmented but were originally one very solid base with a gap far more from centre and centre left than today

The left voter base hasn't changed all that much, they swing from apathy to action and that is how their campaigns are effective

The issue with the left is that their core voter block is heavily centrist and has grown more conservative/establishment

There's lots of points i'm omitting related to deep state corruption but before social media these were ignored, now this stuff is regularly talked about.

No. The left still viewed the right as evil, but the right only thought that the left was merely misguided.
Nowadays we are wiser. We know now that the left is the worst existential threat America has ever faced.

You can't compare bombing which was the policy from him ON to now to fucking erasing Iraq and then driving around in it between checkpoints for no purpose which is the case NOW still. Your post is all over the place, no one knew in the US there were countries past Poland during Obama or cared what they asked or did thats the point of this thread. You are a fucking nut job. The Crisis with banks is exactly why i said he was normal, he didn't even touch them. His Healthcare deal was literally funneling people into insurance, nothing radical just more bullshit.

Most people didn't care about politics. Now thanks to social media, people HAVE to care.

There's a style of American neocon/leftist journalistic comedy which I call "late night with faggot" where some smug pseudo intellectual covers the luxury concerns and opinions of the day in a way that really is just smug self flattery for themselves in the audience who can be like "omg haha at these country bumpkins, they say things that sound stupid and they don't agree with me. Aren't we so funny, classy, sexy, educated and progressive! What's the French word for entrepreneur? IT'S ALREADY FRENCH BUSHKINS!"

That was about the extremity of the sting Bush was getting. Pictures of him looking like a monkey and sound bites of him saying weird goofy stuff. Otherwise they were A-O.K and the TV guy agreed with them.

Trump is an outsider and is absolutely hated by them. The fear is palpable. They had to throw everything at him other than the true reasons for their opposition (they come clean now). They even cosy up to Bush now because they are all just globalist neocons in the end of the day.

During the early and mid 2000’s during the bush administration were things this divided as they are now?

The nastier parts of division began in the '90s when a sort of prototype of the future tea party swooped in under Newt Gingrich and sought to impeach Clinton for having interns suck him off, nasty stuff. There was still a sense of civility (more than today) through George W. and he got a big boost after 9/11, 9/11 triggered about a 1-2 year long since of national unity to fight something greater than party divisions. George W. though was generally seen as a idiot who couldn't stitch words together, although some believe it was an act.
Difference between then & now, there was seething over G.W., he was seen as more of a fuck up idiot brother (still "family" as a fellow american), whereas Trump is seen as the devil, far more vitriol and extreme polarity.

this is a big part of it - everyone has an opinion on politics no one has an education in it.

yes, it was just as divisive, people forget Karl Rove and Roger Stone were doing all kinds of dirty tricks to get Bush elected, and they literally stole the 2000 election, Karl Rove had faggot rentboys coming into the White House at night for Bush who has a fetish for bald headed military fags, Karl Rove setup Dan Rather with the Killian memo to torpedo the Bush AWOL story, then lying to start a war and killing 1 million Iraqis for nothing

No, the war protesters were just treated as "unpatriotic" for not being enthused enough about the US going to war in the ME again.
The real war hawk types were the Republicans but a lot of the Democrats were too, like the Clintons.
Of he many names they had for GW Bush at the time, fascist was probably the most popular one.
But back then the conservative opposition movement to the war protesters just wasn't there, not like the way it is today with "right-wing, left-wing" factions today.
People during that time were not going to the internet for their news, that is an absolute definite.
The news was the news, and it was 0% antiwar, so you certainly wouldn't have found any division there.
Kurt Loder on MTV News went on air for Iraq War 2 and said the equivalent of, we need to support the President and our Country at this time, and I don't think a single band whose music had appeared on MTV supported the war at that point.
Also, there are two things I want to say because I was working an office job at the time and watched the whole thing from work with coworkers until they sent us home, and went to work in the aftermath, and I don't want anyone to forget:
One, there was never going to be a "9/11 Commission Report." The families of those victims had to fight for that and basically force the government to investigate what went wrong on that day, because there was so much unprecedented shit that had happened.
Two, while we were watching CNN in the breakroom, apparently somebody at the network thought it'd be a good idea to "go live to the reaction in Gaza" and then they showed what later turned out to be old stock footage of some Palestinian festival where they're throwing candy to people in the street.

Two,

I remember this specifically because I remember a couple of my coworkers being angry about that specific video clip the next day.

Bush derangement syndrome was definitely a thing. It even hit down in Australia. It was nowhere near as bad as Trump Derangement Syndrome though, and Obama was way more divisive.

W was just the first of the divisive presidents. He had huge protests against him, people called him out on war crimes and called him Hitler. But it was more the general protest crowd and radical lefties. Most average people didn't care, just political obsessee's, for the most part. But things happened like I remember some porn websites, all the girls did this protest where they shaved their bushes and then said "No Bush" before the 2004 election. So women were getting involved and there was early online hate campaigns.

Silly sexpat. I was in Sydney in 2003 when 1 million people protested Australia joining the war in Iraq. We took over the city that day, the mistake we made was going home. Go back to your ladybois.

Yeah I remember seeing some of you annoying fucks. I don't know why you retards bother protesting, have any of them ever worked?