China begins mass production of GPU that matches RTX 4060

where can i buy and how much spyware will be on it stealing my data and crypto accounts?

China begins mass production of GPU that matches RTX 4060

Will cost $50 each

has backdoor programming that give china full control, so many retards will buy and lose access

If it's true, you don't be able to buy it. Just like the chink cars

vram is gas and everything else is the engine. yes.

Maybe we will finally benefit from the hundreds of billions of dollars in state subsidies they have been pouring into this. A big thank you to all the chinese slave laborers and taxcattle that made this possible!

Would much rather China have them than Israel sinceI I don't criticize the Chinese government (because it's awesome) but I do criticize jewa.

reality is that's probably what NVIDIA 4060 really costs. ever wonder how NVIDIA became multi trillion dollar company literally overnight. by 10,000 markup margns

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
DO CPUS NEXT

I JUST WANT TO PLAY WITCHER 4 ON MAXED SETTINGS WITHOUT GETTING GRIFTED FOR 5000 DOLLARS

And it will only violently short out once a month

don't matter, if they can copy rtx4060 for $50 then all power to them and nvidia faggots should be hanged for charging 2k for their shit GPU

that would still be half the price of the RTX 4060

at most you really only need good architecture for better performance.

Cool, if thats what china is charging than thats what they should cost here also. Im not going to complain about lower prices and less tech trillionaires selling 3 thousand dollar video cards.

Cope as you always do.

nigger states are the only country

God please let it be real. Let them fuck jewvidia in the ass until they bleed chunky wafer bits

all these faggots like AlphaGo and AlphaFold claiming they can use AI to generate all kind of new shit, why don't they use AI to generate better GPU/CPU that costs pennies and 10000x better than we currently have? they literally have blueprints for every CPU/GPU ever made and exponential training shouldn't be that hard. fucking kikes probably already have GPU/CPU that's 100000x better than what we have now but being greedy jews and milking it for as long as possible. perfect example was OpenAI and Deepseek R1. amazing how days after Deepseek R1 came out suddenly OpenAI kikes released their comparable version. had it not been for deepseek we'd still be paying $200/month for that shitty ai version to this day

leaf flag

gets angry about chinkshit

Bug man discovered

good point

whats gonna happen is jewvidia selling these now like what apple did right for your entire life now.

4060 is 299. But if they can match it an sell for 99 then its great. I have several builds that would need an upgrads

Jewvidia btfo

going price is $400

ai is just a more ergonomic search browser.

Xiaomi announces supermegahyper cpu

Turns out, it's literally just a fucking mediatek chip

Now this
Me:

Doubt it

Couldn't care either way

$50 each

okay, yellow nigger

mutts posting this on devices with direct backdoors to the NSA

hilarious

Please stop giving me false hope

implying Xi-PU won't steal all of your info

i feel sorry for the slavs that will eat this up

my friend's dad who worked at microsoft for decades said the really fast experimental processors use optical computing but they aren't getting released to the public yet

he was also the first person who told me AI was going to come out and get really big, this was back in 2021 or 2022 i think, before ChatGPT got big. i remember thinking he sounded like he was full of shit, like why would a personalized chatbot be revolutionary?

Banzai, chink-san!

Good. Fuck NVIDIA, I hope they burn.

yea good luck with the drivers you'll get for them

implying

as if the dogshit the big mfgs are shipping right now are any better than the trash they'd release. Driver support for GPUs has been horrific for years and nvidia is barely managing to keep the facade together based on the fact that their shit crashed less than amd's almost 10 fucking years ago. Nvidia has worse stability with current releases than amd does and amd isn't particularly stable or well put together.

Will cost $50 each

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Cars are hard to move retard. They have to come in ships. You can put a GPU in your luggage. Some people comment just to comment.

If they can copy it that’s huge success. Gpus are not some plastic junk, retard

use AI to generate better GPU/CPU

generate better GPU/CPU

Are you are you fucking retarded or just stupid?

competition is.. le bad

Making someone elses product for cheaper is how capitalism is supposed to work

... are you?

CPUs are made through hundreds of extremely complex interdependent processes. Each of these processes needs its own research. If we have an AI so advanced that’s it’s capable of figuring out how to create a cpu from scratch we would be ruled by AI today.

What is China gonna do, steal my waifu hentai pics?

but mr. white man. what if i tell you, FREE GIFT!!!! with every purchase? what can lose to you stand?

Just vibecode your own drivers, breh

Why can't Americans understand that it's not the 90s anymore? The era of China making only cheap garbage is long gone.

Any non-chinsekt sources to back this up?

If Asians can only copy, why are they leading in several key areas of technology?

Plus, the ability to copy is a great thing.

Let me put it another way:
In the West, probably 99.99% of our kids don't have the brains to master a certain area of physics, compsci or mathematics. The subject matter in its 21st century complicatedness is simply too difficult to learn. Only 0.01% of kids can learn what has already been done.

In the East, let's say that the corresponding number is 99.90%. Or rather, 0.1% of the kids have the ability to master the topic as it currently is.

0.01% in the West versus 0.1% in the East.
Let's call these the "bright kids".

Assuming the populations are equal, the East would have roughly 10 times as many bright kids as the West. These are the people who can master a subject and then begin making original contributions to that subject. In order for the West to be on the level with the East at this point, its much smaller number of bright kids must be 10x more "creative" than the Eastern kids.
But are they? Probably not.

Don’t worry. With Trump’s tariffs they will be $1k for you burgers, lol.

Damn, these chinks have been stealing all the blueprints from American manufacturers.

It's just cope.
The west literally copied guns from China.
And if they didn't copy China's high fire ceramics kiln technology they would have never attained glass.

Ah cheap GPU for me and nothing for amerijews.

If the drivers and software is good then maybe nvidia and amd should be worried but china still can't into software well so I wouldn't worry much about it.

how much vram will it have?

how much vram you will need to be able to properly identify vehicles and soldiers to attack them?

western MIC is already dead

i hope they atleast reach to the level of 3060rtx and AMD.fuck these taiwanese jews cunt to raise the prices of gpu's to 1000 gazillions.GPU's are always on high demand so even with a ban or tarriff,one can buy them from scalpers anyways.
i don't even like the road nvidia is going i.e AI.
my only concern will be the driver issue and how well it will run with all the softwares.
heil the CPP XI if it reaches to the level of 2022 gpu's with half the price lol.

invent a wheel

someone else do the same

"oh vey!! YOU STOLE MY TECH REEE"

Americans need to believe they're still in the 90s to hold onto whatever little hope they have left.

There is going to be zero driver support. AMD is a leading company and their drivers don't work half the time. There is a reason Nvidia has such a large market share. Go look up the AMD GPU market share.

matches RTX 4060

How exactly? You think they have the driver suite?

that's probably what NVIDIA 4060 really costs

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Absolutely not.
Those silicone wafers cost tens of thousands alone, unprocessed.
On top of that, they have to cover R&D, alongside software development and maintenance.
Nvidia doesn't really have any (decent) competition so they can charge what they like.

You will be plying Chinese games with drivers weighing 10% of Nvidia bloat for equal performance.

they can copy rtx4060 for $50

The DIE (transistor layout) is probably a very jealously guarded secret. The only way they could copy a RTX is by stealing the designs and having the competency and equipment to perform the extremely delicate operation of producing the silicone chips.

ahhh, so thats why nvidia ceo began dumping his stocks

why don't they use AI to generate better GPU/CPU

It's in the works already.

that costs pennies

Idiot aleart.

ETA for the chink 4060 replica: 20+ years

OP says matches the 4060 so 16gb? I'm guessing without looking it up, I'm lazy.

nvidia drivers are the worse right now

MediaTek is committed to the Arm architecture for their PC-oriented SoCs

MediaTek is a company based in Taiwan.

What a bunch of fucking morons.

Well, I threw my xiaomi in the trash, I was even fucking afraid to connect my google account there.

You seriously can't afford $300 for a 5060?
LOL POORFAG!

nvidia ceo began dumping his stocks

kek rly?
what about Pelosi indicator?

Wanted to say that

The era of China making only cheap garbage is long gone

t. Ignorant Retard.
youtube.com/watch?v=SJWcJrKi0GM

they are leading in several key areas of technology

No, they are not.

99.99% of our kids don't have the brains to master a certain area of physics, compsci or mathematics

Nonsense. You should just move to China since they're so bright!

Not the same at all when we're talking about silicone wafer transistor layouts.

Dunno bro, looking at that YT channel I have an impression China is done in 2 weeks

pelosi doesnt apply here. she makes her winning bets based on upcoming legislation

The West literally would still be in the stone age, never advancing if it weren't for them copying from China!!!!!!

Apparently their trains all run on Java and Flash. When flash was cancelled their network stopped working.

Optical/Photonic isn't that interesting. Effective, yes. Clever, sure.
But it's not trinary, tetriary, of pentary logic. It's still just binary, and suffers the same inefficiency as a result.

I have never had anything from China and said “wow the quality is amazing”

The absurd engineering needed just to design the machines that make them requires half the world's supply of hallucinogenic substances.

Their videos show the on the ground conditions of Chinese citizens rather than the perspective portrayed by their media.
They've never really asserted that the CCP is facing imminent collapse though they have shown a dramatic increase in hostilities by the populace towards it.

yeah. thanks for the new nvidia driver. now my games crash after 3 minutes.

Leaf logic: it's better for your device to be backdoored by the hostile ccp, than by your own government

techpowerup.com/nvcleanstall/

Removes the bloat

Thank me later.

Did they show a prototype running on x86 using its own DX-qualified drivers at Computex?

that matches RTX4060

in price maybe, but never in quality.

if they could match quality, that means that they've always been doing shitty quality on their products on purpose.

never buy chinese, starve them for degrading the value of goods

Don't care. Even if it were the best GPU on the planet I still wouldn't buy it because I don't want CCP spyware on my PC.

we're talking about silicone wafer transistor layouts.

may i see the proof of that?

6nm

"True" GPU

Shows what appears to be an intel socket

Nvidia and Tesla shares will pump on this news.

Chinese law requires all large corporations within the country to have CCP officials in management positions.
That alone raises significant and serious concerns about their products.

Yeah you will
Get in the TACO suit lil Donnie

AI will be the end of humanity. Americans are playing with nature and going against the will of Allah. It is haram.

欢迎光临

匈牙利吉普赛人

how can china harm you?
your gov on the other hand.....

If Asians can only copy, why are they leading in several key areas of technology?

Because the collective west decided for 2 decades that it was more important to babyshit primitive shitheads that can't form a functional society and to spend millions of dollars on OnlySands.

never buy chinese, starve them for degrading the value of goods

yeah and buy cards from huang and su LOL. no point in being a patriot you don't have a country. you live in a new economic zone

Chinese company steals IP from Chinese company

Oh wow, much shock

I'll care when it generates my SDXL gape LORA shit instantly and not a moment before

how add on 512GB of ram, and put Nvidia out of business

vram

key for AI

[spoiler] kek [/spoiler] kek

imminent collapse

bro.. that imminent collapse is collapsing for over a decade now...

How many dead gooks will it take to refine the material to make these vidYa cards Gorbachev?

matches RTX 4060

So its garbage. Modern gpus are a joke. Matching nvidia's slop is not a good thing.

This
Dumb mutt

I cant imagine being from such a nigger cuck country like canada that you have to simp for china just because America is ten times better than your pathetic shithole of a "country" will ever be AHAHAHAHAHAHA

I dont hate china but everytime i used a chink processor it was shit even though on paper it had good specs

Maybe they are giving back after you guys gave them your entire industrial base for no raisin and raised them out of subsistence farming

Are you? Llm cant make deductions so how could it design something at all nevermind make improvements to an existing design. If you can dump schematics into and it would just shit out the mkst average version

Is it better than the junk they usually make ?
Like the crashing jets , the electric cars that explode , the sky scrappers that fall down ?

Apparently they fake reported specs by cooling with nitrogen during testing lol.

Llm cant make deductions

Observe:

Define deduction

Deduction is a process of reasoning where a conclusion is drawn from one or more premises using logical rules. It involves:
Starting with general statements or premises
Applying logical rules to derive a specific conclusion
The conclusion follows necessarily and logically from the premises
Deductive reasoning aims to arrive at a certain truth if the premises are true. It's often used in mathematics, logic, and philosophy.

Two men were in a room. One of the men heard a brapping noise coming from the other, then a putrid odor emanated the room. What happened and who was responsible?

Given the description, it seems likely that the man who was the source of the noise and odor let out a loud, wet fart. The other man in the room heard the sound and then smelled the foul odor that followed.
Without more context, it's reasonable to assume the man who farted is responsible for the noise and smell. The situation might be embarrassing or uncomfortable for both men, depending on their relationship and sense of humor.

for sure she will not hold stonks if there is some insider info that they will be stinking

in price maybe, but never in quality.

Quantity is a quality of its own...you still think that those chips will land in some gheym cards right?

Stolen technology can produce amazing bargains.

It's fake and they actually use TSMC (Taiwan) chips. The work-around right now is that the US allows transistor counts below 30 Billion in chips:
youtube.com/watch?v=TE3DL38ffzk&t=915
15:20

But I thought China had already been manufacturing amazing chips better than anything the west could produce? At least that is what pol has been telling me for over a year now (no one anywhere in the world has actually seen one mind you).

This is just more lies from China. You wont be able to buy this GPU because it doesn't and will never exist.

It's probably schizo chinks thinking they can copy everything around the world with ease lol.

Its not even a chinese room anon its just a probabilistic model. If you really think it can do logic try to teach it basic math and then give it a large but could simple calculation to make it will fail because only the simplest of operations (1+1) are reinforced in training data enough to associate as a correct response

yeah cept you can buy electronics on a chink website, you cant register a car you ordered on a website

Good thing I can only buy chink cars then

and contains backdoors that exfil your data directly to CCP servers

Don't worry, to protect AMD and Nvidia market duopoly every western country will tariff these at 5000% so they're the same price as the taiwanese GPU's.

You will not see reasonable GPU prices for the rest of your life.

50$? BULLSHIT
It's probably going to be like 100$ cheaper than a 4060 but then the driver will be mega shit and bullshit compability problems

t. retard with a bios written by, and motherboard made in, china or taiwan already

virtually nothing you own, let alone electronics, is made by white people you idiot

All of the R&D including the software for CPUs and GPUs is done in America. Not sure why you're trying to hard to push the "everything is made in China" narrative when we know for a fact that microprocessors are one of the things China is entirely incapable of making.

Bought a rx 6600 from chinks for 180$ already, I believe it

TrueGPU

Reminds me of GOODRAM [random access memory] brand from Poland
Hint: It's not good
Also see: DPRK

the majority of the cost in these GPU's is the research/development/investment, not the actual production.

If the chinese government writes off the fab buildouts then $50 gpu's are entirely plausible.

They aren't using insanely expensive manufacturing methods either, being about 1-2 generations behind the best taiwanese tech, but with more reliable and easier to produce products. People are so used to the TSMC monopoly they can't fathom what actual silicon prices will look like with real competition.

paying $500 for a cpu or gpu would seem retarded and insane if there were serious competition in chip fabrication, but there isn't serious competition. There's a small handful of companies specializing in particular types of silicon and only one bleeding edge company. Prices are through the roof because of it.

We don't actually know how much microprocessors cost to make. That information cannot be found anywhere and unless you're a higher up at Nvidia/Intel then you don't know.
What we do know is the process is insanely long and complicated, involving hundreds of people, taking over half a year from start to finish with over 1000 steps that all have to be done in a specially made factory that has to be absolutely spotless to prevent defects.
Just from that alone we can deduce the process isn't actually that cheap. Nothing that involves hundreds of people and takes half a year is going to be cheap.

None of the complaints you just presented matter in the slightest.

The chip doesn't even exist. It's completely fake.

bios written by

No.

and motherboard made in

Ever played legos?

Yes and no. The GPU everyone wants for ai right now have pretty costly manufacturing at TSMC.

It's partly because TSMC essentially has a monopoly but it *also* still has a monopoly also because this is a extremely complex and therefore costly to build/train and run production and supply chain.

Nothing that involves hundreds of people and takes half a year is going to be cheap.

Your mom is cheap, fucks hundreds of people, and took half a year to produce you.

Wow chang, such a witty response.

Alongside jet engines due to an inability to manufacture metals capable of withstanding the pressures and temperatures involved.
They also have to import steel for ultra-fast trains.

There's also still competition over vram which tsmc has to compete with.

Asic chips like vram aswell not just guys.
That's why hbm was moved away from and gddr was maintained. All the asics scooped up the hbm and gddr remained adequate and still does somewhat. Now the glu manufacturers need large amounts of vram for ai and they're scrambling to find some solution to the vram bloat. They can't stick more vram chips on the board so they need something denser.

Whatever brainlet believe what you want

Jensen isn't gonna like this, how will he afford his mansion full of leather jackets if he can't njudea the absolute fuck out of the customer?

total nvidianigger death

great.better than the glowie servers who will inject cp in my hardisk if i share my stance on the jews and immigration.
what the fuck will CCP gonna do with my data when i live in a distance of 2 continents?i'm also not a government employee so this doesn't concern the national security.

We don't actually know how much microprocessors cost to make

It costs a lot. Even if you exclude R&D.

No, both are bad.

Relevance?

Ignorant retard.

Bruh the chinks can't make anything remotely close to an RTX chip.

Fucking finally

I gave you a 2 minute method to disprove your ignorant beliefs but apparently that is too much effort for you

China does nothing. China has nether the technology nor skills to produce anything sub 50nm ff they are subhumans like you op. China never did smth, isnt doing anything and will never do anything than lie, fake and rott. Every tech claim from china is pure fake and you are gay for believing it

I gave you a 2 minute method to disprove

No, you didn't.

1+1

2
Hmm...

A father and son get in a car crash and are rushed to the hospital. The father dies. The boy is taken to the operating room and the surgeon says "I can't operate on this boy, because he's my son." How is this possible?

The classic lateral thinking puzzle!
The answer is: The surgeon is the boy's mother.
This puzzle aims to challenge the assumption that the surgeon is a man, highlighting unconscious biases. It's a great example of how our minds can make assumptions based on stereotypes.

Are you fucking with me or do you really have no clue

Technically you'd be correct but you gotta remember the nationality of the man you're replying to.

Give an actual example.

it matches it already in overhype about its performance and costs

this is good
i'd rather the chinx have a backdoor in my pc than the golem glowniggers and their kike masters

Tell it to add two large random numbers together

Kya faggot subhuman shill

Muh trillion dollar company

May you burn alive

Will cost $50 each

doubt

A boy and his mother are in a horrible car accident. They are both rushed to the hospital in critical condition. However, once the boy is in the operating room, the doctor exclaims 'hold on! I can't operate - that is my son!' How can this be?

This is the same puzzle!
The answer is still: The doctor is the boy's mother.
The puzzle's wording is designed to lead us into assuming the doctor is a man, but the simple and logical explanation is that the doctor is indeed the boy's parent – his mother.

Funnily enough, I've asked the first version to some people and they can't figure it out.

Fails to provide any market competition

Complains about price

lol. Eat the cost or cry.

GPU that matches RTX 4060

That genuinely cool, but hit me up when they mass produce 4090s that don't fry because of supposed user error
I NEED MORE AND CHEAPER TENSOR CORES

Not for me

believe it when i see it but i hope it's true

THREAD//
Fuck they keep saying they got OMG NUEEEW GEE P Yuuuus's

I can't even fucking find them on store shelves.
How the fuck is it that they keep saying they got NEW Items each year and they can't even fucking fill orders of what they got?

If CHINA was Indeed able to make tech, they would.
I know they got ONE GPU that does A.I. but its and ASIC..
LAME
&
GAY.

Hmm Xiaomi had some nice hardware, be it phones or other household devices.
Not always the best, but very good price/quality

They seem to have refined it to use hardware for some math:

js to generage large random numbers

You can use the following JavaScript function to generate large random numbers:
JavaScript
function generateLargeRandomNumber(digits) {
let min = Math.pow(10, digits - 1);
let max = Math.pow(10, digits) - 1;
return Math.floor(Math.random() * (max - min + 1)) + min;
}

// Example usage:
console.log(generateLargeRandomNumber(10));
This function generates a random number with the specified number of digits. You can adjust the number of digits as needed.

3295240316+5774432392

3295240316 + 5774432392 = 9069672708

(Expected = 9069672708)

i love how you faggots think you're smart enough to avoid all the other fucking backdoors but you're so sure that the one physical backdoor is the one that will get you
not your viruses from watching gay porn
not the NSA
not your ISP
your facebook
but the physical cpu backdoor....

i'm afraid you faggots think you're smarter than you actually are.

this is so dumb, chinks can't even use their own gpus/cpus because the software doesn't fuckin work
1660super is still king in china
and it will reign king for awhile longer

I can't even fucking find them on store shelves.

Order a pre-build.
Scalpers buy them up to sell at a markup.

Could try telling it to show its work or just do it on chatgpt

say something bad about China

they seethe impotently at you

say something bad about your government

ANON ARRESTED FOR BAD MOUTHING HIS DADDY GOV! MORE NEWS AT 5!

By the way, i hate chinks, but this thinking is why NSA has full control over you

Show your work.

Here's the step-by-step calculation:
3295240316
5774432392
9069672708
Let me break it down:
6 + 2 = 8
1 + 9 = 10, write 0 carry 1
3 + 3 + 1 (carry) = 7
0 + 2 = 2
4 + 4 = 8
2 + 7 = 9
9 + 4 = 13, write 3 carry 1
5 + 7 + 1 (carry) = 13, write 3 carry 1
3 + 5 + 1 (carry) = 9
2 + 0 = 2 (no carry from previous step, but leading digits still add up correctly as shown)
The result is indeed 9069672708.

An S1 IPO isn't a profound creative essay, it's a tax document
The reason these take so long is they're mostly data discovery

Data discovery is tedious but not difficult at-the-fuck-all

Anything math/coding related is not solved by the AI actually doing the math, it's regurgitating what it thinks is the right answer based on inference
You are smart enough to do this and have enough time to collect these problems but are too up your own asshole to listen when someone tells you, plain and clear:
AI does not reason
It is pattern recognition
Even when you won't be able to tell between AI and human output, they are not thinking, they are spitting out things based on data inference and probability

You probably know this already

NSA has full control over you

NSA doesn't even control itself lol. They can't just violate civil liberties in the US unlike China where their constitution is blatantly ignored and the citizens don't do anything about it.

Lisuan Technology announced this week on its official WeChat channel that it has successfully powered on its prototype G100 graphics card. The company describes the G100 as China's first domestically designed 6 nm GPU, marking a significant milestone in its effort to challenge established industry players. With the first silicon now operational, Lisuan is moving into driver development, software validation, and broader system integration testing. Although Lisuan has provided few formal specifications, rumors indicate that SMIC is fabbing the G100 die, currently the only Chinese foundry capable of producing a 6 nm node under US export restrictions. Rumors describe the performance as being on par with NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 4060 in mid-range gaming tests, alongside generous onboard memory, efficient power consumption, and support for DirectX 12, Vulkan 1.3, and OpenGL 4.6. If accurate, these features could position the G100 for both gaming and general-purpose GPU workloads.

Founded in late 2021 by a team of former Silicon Valley engineers with more than 25 years of collective chip-design experience, Lisuan Technology is among the youngest entrants in China's graphics-chip sector. It follows Biren Technology (established in 2019) and Moore Threads (established in 2020) in their pursuit of a homegrown alternative to foreign GPU offerings. Beijing's push for semiconductor self-sufficiency has encouraged such ventures, and Lisuan insists its TrueGPU architecture is fully developed in-house rather than licensed from outside sources. The G100 was initially slated for a 2023 launch but encountered financial headwinds that nearly forced Lisuan into bankruptcy in 2024. A $27.7 million capital injection from the parent company, Dongxin Semiconductor, kept development on track through tape-out and early risk-production trials. Lisuan now plans to ship small volumes of G100 cards in the third quarter of 2025, with mass availability more likely in 2026.

AI does not reason

It is pattern recognition

The sad thing is... what exactly is human reasoning?
A product of the neural network of their brain?
How does a human understand something?
In the same way that we can externally claim a human "understands" something by their output/behavior, we can also assert a computer/AI does.

Additionally, volunteers who have gone to africa to help teach africans how to farm have observed that the africans failed to deduce or "reason" that planting seeds with fertilizer improves yields (or even that planting seeds yields plants in some instances). We could reasonably argue that current human AI systems unquestionably exceed such deduction capabilities.

bullshit
chinks will sell it just a little bit cheaper than the original, like every fakeshit they produce
fuck chinks

It's a matter of the mechanism by which you quantify intelligence.
Humans self-learn.

AI does not.

Humans have generalized intelligence that takes very unlike concepts and pairs them on its own, without any input.

AI learns through probability which answer is probably the right one and does not "understand" how it got the result.

It is a very, very, very fucking big Google spreadsheet with multidimensional columns and rows for every-fuck-thing. It's an algorithm that processes data. This is true for every type of AI model. They are statistical machines, they do not think like you and I do.

Give it some new math rules like 1+3=sqrt5 and repeat. I doubt they went that far custom writing the math functionality

Humans self-learn.

>AI does not.

They are working on achieving exactly that.
Once AI can self-improve the game is 99% over.
They are already using AI feeds to refine training data.

the average nvidia employee is a millionaire. hope the chinks crash the gpu market.

You can mess around with it yourself:
meta.ai
They released small (8/12/70 billion parameter) models if you want to run it on your local machine.

The complexity of 'thought' of an llm is on par with that of an insect. Its not capable of visualization or (natively) math logic etc its just data in data out

key for AI

this. A brand new 5070ti is cheaper and outperforms a used 3090 for videogames. So why does my 'brand new' build feature a used 3090? Because its not meant to be a 'gaming pc' its meant to be an AI workstation
t. finally replacing my 8yr old i7-8700k 1080ti build

They are working on achieving that.

Which is why I'm telling you here, now, that we're not there yet.

Once AI can self-improve the game is 99% over.

Nobody ever said this is definitely possible within our lifetime, if ever. We don't know how our own brains work yet. If anyone does it then it'll be by complete accident, long enough for us to have learned about human brains and consciousness (don't hold your breath here), or pulled out of a fucking alien spaceship.

They are already using AI feeds to refine training data.

And almost invariably lowers the quality of a model while improving specialization of a model, which is the opposite of the fucking goal. Errors are made in output, errors get trained in, errors begin to wreck the output. Garbage in, garbage out.

I'm thinking we've got another century at least before we're even in the ballpark of AGI. If we are in AGI days already and it's under wraps, you and I are never going to see it except in conspiracy theories here.

You think LLMs are as simple as insect cognition? I get where you're coming from, but let's not underestimate the complexity of data processing by mind or machine. Sure, LLMs might not "visualize" or "understand" math like humans do, but they can generate code, solve problems, and even create art. Those abilities might not be human-like, but they're still valuable.
Think of LLMs like specialized tools. They don't need human-like cognition to excel in specific tasks. Their "data-in, data-out" nature can be a strength, allowing them to process vast amounts of information quickly and accurately.
When it comes to tasks like generating text or answering questions, LLMs can be incredibly effective. They might not "think" like humans, but they can still provide useful insights and responses. And as for developing or invoking additional abilities, that's already happening. Researchers are exploring ways to integrate LLMs with other tools and models, enabling them to tackle even more complex tasks.
So, while LLMs might not have human-like thought processes, they're still powerful tools with a wide range of applications. Their unique strengths can be leveraged to achieve impressive results, even if they don't think like insects or humans.

Pure reddit slop, ai ngmi. Cant create shit just regurgitate

I have realized I am retarded and will now hope you read this spiel about the benefits of AI and don't notice.

You might not have even been arguing about cognition in the first place. My fault, there are so many (genuine) retarded opinions on AI that my finger gets a little itchy.

That was LLM output buddy.

China begins mass production of GPU that matches RTX 4060

6nm chip

That possibility is still preferable to the known backdoors with negative ring privileges for Intel Management Engine and similar stuff that western chips have.
Additionally china won't have much power over you if they can spy on you, but if western intellgience agencies spy on you they can have a lot of power over you.

No fucking shit!
I want you to go ahead and tell me why you think that's important after I carefully explained to you that good output does not mean the AI thought about its output, and that output was not very good at all.
I thought you were getting out by being funny with the free-tier chatbot model you're using, but the fact you were seriously trying to trick me in a way that doesn't even prove your point is pretty retarded.

Well by observation it appears to follow more complex patterns than an insect, an arthropod which often flies into lightbulbs repeatedly.

eat shit pajeet

Don't pick on Aussies, memeflag. He's probably not brown. Too much risk of a sting on the ass when you shit in the street.

Well for starters I wasn't even responding to you.
I was responding to a claim that insect thought is equal to LLM performance.

They're just scavenging in the trash. It's a copium for retards.

anon... americans didn't subsidize chinese tech... they're a different country.

Oh wait you're just being a faggot. Got me pretty good, sis.

It's interesting that you respond so aggressively about this.
LLMs have definitely passed the Turing test, they've fooled me with somewhat complex interactions.
I'm a bit optimistic on the trajectory but perhaps 10 years is correct.
In terms of cognition or consciousness... those are important subjects but do they really matter when we're measuring human vs. machine output?

The ai response kinda reminds me of Rorschach from blindsight. It can appear as whatever you like but we know whats under the hood and its less complex than some arthropods

They've been pretty accurate for me.
I guess it depends what strata of society you're in but I typically look at conditions of those who are worse off.
The insight they give into rural Chinese life is also very valuable.
They also show that Chinese society is suffering from many of the same problems occurring in the west, including very bizarre and extreme weather.
They called this "evil wind" lol:
youtu.be/RYuSQl2-P2A

if it runs silver palace then that's all I need

Turing test is meaningless even aside from the chinese room caveat

I've asked it to write emails for me and told it what kind of emotional tone to use.
I've got it to mix all kinds of conflicting tones and the output is often hilarious.

Because you are retard. The fact that the average Chinese does not live like the average boomer with a property worth 5 million does not prevent China from collapsing. the idea of collapse is retard in itself

I tried getting gpt to speak like a pirate at one point but the reddit tone ruins it.

I hope it btfos amd and nshita

I don't know how AI designing GPUs translates to AI enslaving humanity anymore than a NVIDIA researcher is likely to enslave humanity with his vaste intellect.

In terms of cognition or consciousness... those are important subjects but do they really matter when we're measuring human vs. machine output?

Yes!
No cognition means no general intelligence. No error checking. Bad outputs stay bad. Shit breaks. Humans have to build out every little function and specialization to even give it a chance. No progress without people.
You do not want to give a broad, generalized task to something that will almost certainly fuck it up unless you hold its hand the entire way. Self-improvement is still impossible. The only reason models work in the applications they're used for is through finetuning. They're good for one thing, but ONLY that one thing.
Add in cognition and consciousness, it understands a problem. UNDERSTAND is a word I want you to emblazon in your brain as something AI can't physically do at the moment. When early humans figured out how to use tools, they then started messing with other things to use as tools, but the idea of a tool doing anything hadn't occurred to them. Even if the AI 'uses the tool' by accident and gets a better result, it does not know why, but more importantly it isn't able to change its behavior to use tools, because it doesn't know why it collected more somehow.
That's why the insect analogy is extremely accurate. Bugs do not create their conditions, it's the opposite. They evolve by probability into a species that suits the environment.
If anyone is ever crazy enough to bring us into AGI you could have a supercomputer with the reasoning skills and temperament of a chihuahua wielding a lexicon of human knowledge.
You can read and regurgitate an encyclopedia. That's impressive, but not the same as knowing the significance of things in it and forming relationships that are arbitrary and not guided by humans.

It's probably not a good idea to do that.

I don't criticize the Chinese government (because it's awesome)

You pathetic piece of shit

calm down eglin boy

if it has linux drivers, I'll get 2

It's probably not a good idea to do that.

...in reference to AGI being on the table at all.

If you were curious, I spend hours a day playing with StableDiffusion along with other tools as part of a workflow. The reason I know so much is I've had to research the topic to debate everyone from tranny furry inflation artists worried about commissions to industry artists to pinkhairs on xitter. Almost every single person I've ever had a conversation on the topic with has no idea how AI works and their sets of 'facts' are usually shit they read from an influencer who got their fee fees hurt when they found out they were in a dataset somewhere.

Your own government has more power over you than the government of a country on the other side of the world, are you dumb or an actual glowie? It's also debatable if the people who invented MKUltra and have black sites to sequester their own citizens are more moral than CCP agents with batteries and jump-start cables.

Sure

nice reddit meme format speech retard.

the idea of collapse is retard in itself

I'm sure the ancient Egyptians and Romans thought exactly the same thing.
Or could it be that modern civilizations are prone to collapse just as ancient ones were?
Of late we could perhaps analyze at the progressive decay of the British Empire, most respectable due to how peaceful it has been so far.

Adults are talking. Go skulk a jeet thread. Take your (You) with you.

is there any chance of triangulation ? Like, import from china to the uk and then from the uk to the US at 0% tariffs ?

Really interesting discussion about this. Think of a company with stupid CEOs and extremely intelligent employees.
The employees will eventually realize that they can do the CEOs job.
AI is extremely dangerous, some excellent exploration of the topic:
youtu.be/dp8zV3YwgdE

vram is a spook

the jeets hate the chinks as much as you do mutt faggot. no wonder trump allowed jeets to infest his club and country.your VC is married to a jeet, elon wants to give jobs to jeets,CIA MAN is now a jeet. your country will end up having the same fate as canada and you voted for this btw. if only you knew how bad things truly are.

They've been doing that for the past few years.
Current admin has been targeting exactly that.

I'm sure the ancient Egyptians and Romans thought exactly the same thing.

their collapse lasted for centuries. Rome was depopulated by high taxes and rent, because there was expensive real estate there. Does this remind you of anything?
The barbarians came to empty territories and the patricians brought them in first of all. They needed labor and those who would protect their plantations, the local population no longer wanted to do this.

As a result, Rome slowly rotted, and when the barbarians entered the city itself, it was already an empty shell, nothing collapsed, most of the population did not even feel or notice it

i dont take american paranoia and fear mongering seriously.

Humans already have enough munitions to glass the planet and enough genetically modified diseases to kill us all hundreds of times over. It would only take a little push.

he is here instead of the jeet threads with jeets actively posting while ranting about jeets

lead the revolution, son

do russian boomers really on average have 5 million dollar houses?

You live in a country with the most pernicious and pervasive surveillance state on the planet. Americans park what little brains they have at the shart mart door when Chyyyna! is mentioned.

You mean to prevent ww3 + 4.
That's why 90s aesthetic needs to be protected and all have relatively easy access to.

Laughable

Greed says yes.
But the potential to destroy a hunk of western wealth/value is very tempting tho, undercutting Nvidia would destroy so much holdings, very quickly.

It`s probably chink bait as usual, but you never know, maybe this time it`s real

Those silicone wafers cost tens of thousands alone, unprocessed.

Kek. Imagine pushing this and expecting people to believe it.

not sure why but this llm is a brainlet too. maybe its doing the math in js?

what is patriot act

Using an LLM to process complex math

You're the brainlet.

Local instances of LLM's are going to be dogshit, doesn't matter what you use. Consumer cards aren't going to cut it. You'll have to rent compute or use a web-based one for anything useful.

what're you schizo or alzheimers? you were the retard larping as if it could do math and logic
its on their website?

lmao they work already and are fucking epic, all you need is cheapest 12gb card and you can run qwen2.5-14b quantized at 4b and for most things you won't notice difference from o4 you fucking shill, only need biggest models for really hard shit

Your bait was really good before anon, stop letting me down like this.

They can't just violate civil liberties in the US

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Cool, AI reached the same hidden subgoal of societal collapse and rebellion as incels.

you were the retard larping as if it could do math and logic

That discussion was about reasoning and what reasoning actually is.
You actually tried to assert an insect can produce better output than an LLM.

US civil liberties violation is laundered thru UK, Australia, Netherlands, Germany etc.

Two weeks.

hardware backdoor included in price

However as I don’t keep any important data on my PC, it may be fair exchange

If Asians can only copy, why are they leading in several key areas of technology?

It's much harder to innovate and lay the foundations of that technology, once someone else has done all the hard work it's easier to come along and make improvements than it is to invent something out of nothing. Otherwise, yeah, the west has been coasting along on the momentum of being the "good guys" and the "winners" of WW2 which has pretty much run out now, and we're a victim of our own complacency and liberal bullshit designed to divert our resources, time, and energy from innovative and productive tasks to utterly trivial time and resource wasting nonsense.

My bad if that's true. Messed with local a couple years ago, right after they brained c.ai's bots and censored them to hell.
Any models you'd recommend trying besides that one? I've tried a bunch of the ones on agnai's web-based free-tier subscription and didn't find them very good at all and I don't want to spend any money.

What exactly are you referencing?
Think about it. Look at all the drug dealers running around. Wouldn't the worst members of society be their initial target? Why are they still running around?
Because the violations you're referencing can really only be enforced against a very specific subset of the population (terrorists). The capabilities could be used for surveillance but of course it's illegal. Doesn't mean it isn't done, but does mean there are legal protections including protections of anything they monitor you doing.

5060

yeah, nice frame generation from janky LCD technology in favour of actual performance improvements you have there, you emu rape victim, but let's call it AI and pretend like its doing something innovative for that money.

the west has been coasting along on the momentum

Of the Guns, Glass, and Fireworks which they copied from China.

Activating framegen

Hell no. No upscaling. No fake frames, thanks.

can you imagine the tiny walnut brains these retards have not realizing that research/design is part of product creation? chinks didn't make anything for cheaper, they allowed the US to massively invest and design something that they made a shoddy version of. nothing was accomplished other than typical chinsect IP theft and subsequent grandstanding. kill yourselves you dumb sinophile faggots

drug dealers running around are there so CIA can make black money they don't have account for before senate. and eugenics. and keeping population down

all you need is llama.cpp and downloading GGUF files from huggingface.co, I would start with qwen, qwq, there are lots of others just sort by trending or popular and see what works

One of the many reasons I oppose manufacturing in China and support strong IP protections.

And what do they do with all this black money?

You can test the available models to decide which one you like:
lmarena.ai/

Well one is human and one is not
Can start there, ching chong.
But seeing as though you're a fucking slant eyed chink, the computer has more of a soul than you do.

They've changed it.
Set it to "Direct Chat" or "Side-By-Side" to compare the models.

Of the Guns, Glass, and Fireworks

none of which would've been possible without import and chinsect theft of metallurgy. fuckin faggot acts like science began at guns, glass, and fireworks. post eyes chink

Using your ugly leader for your memes

Chinks can't do anything right.

Thanks you, close cousin. I understand the suffering of the Polish. I have their pear body. My brother got the Irish body.

Our system thinks your post is spam

how

They are more dangerous than Jews.

just say jews. literally nobody is under the pretense chinese run china. you can say china virus and chinese virus all you want, but cmon buddy, we've witnessed too much kikery at this point to know how things work. we know tik tok isnt a chinese app, its a jewish app larping as a chink app. we know drug cartels smuggling narcotics from china and mexico arent actually being run by chinese and mexicans.

theyre going to need to crank up the christianity if they expect people to be stupid enough to believe things like that.

And what do they do with all this black money?

They have sex in the champagne room.

because it also could catch on fire at any moment?

One of the many reasons I oppose manufacturing in China and support strong IP protections.

Backdoor purely to run cloud computing for their AI services
They'll only use X amount so nobody actually notices it, they'll just think it is Windows doing it because Windows is a sub-optimal piece of shit.

They can do that without black money though.

You think manufacturing of your own products should be done in a foreign, possibly hostile nation?

we know drug cartels smuggling narcotics from china and mexico arent actually being run by chinese and mexicans.

mfw the president of mexico is literally a (((Sheinbaum))) and people will still deny this

Fact of the matter is that western DEI companies won't be able to compete with China soon enough. Have you seen just how bad Poosoft and Jewgle have became?

Just recently a chink tried to backdoor SSH.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XZ_Utils_backdoor

"In February 2024, a malicious backdoor was introduced to the Linux build of the xz utility within the liblzma library in versions 5.6.0 and 5.6.1 by an account using the name "Jia Tan". The backdoor gives an attacker who possesses a specific Ed448 private key remote code execution through OpenSSH on the affected Linux system."

I don't...
What's your point?

Also no one tried to assassinate her once, despite every democratically elected Mexican mayor or official getting beheaded or shot.
Yea curious.

He was calling you based, retard

The backdoor was discovered by the software developer Andres Freund, who announced his findings on 29 March 2024.

Funnily enough he discovered the exploit due to a 0.06 second increase in login times which was causing him extreme frustration.

Time for China to make gaming great again. I honestly think mini consoles went away not because it was a fad but because too many normies we're waking up to the chinkbox. Go bug man go. Put Nintenjew and Jewvidia in their place

The point is supposedly the CIA is collecting black money using drugs... for what?
To have sex?
It makes no sense.

Of the Guns, Glass, and Fireworks which they copied from China.

I was thinking it was more like the Industrial Revolution, but whatever.

$50

一分钱一分货.

Does it have bluetooth for connectivity?

You don't know that, so shut the fuck up.

Fuck up you weird toothpaste looking ass.
Optical is not even remotely what you think it is. That shit relies on quantum effects to do calculations. Literal interference pattern interactions. Fucking binary lmao, get the fuck out.
Shut your trap, leaf fucker, we're not speaking LLMs, we're speaking AI, Transformers.
Transformers are being used right now, successfully, in the entire materials science industries at every level.
There has been multiple breakthrough materials created with them.
Retards like you who equate LLMs with AI are embarrassing.

you russniggers deserve only chink cars.

It makes no sense

It makes complete sense.
What is there to not get about this..?
You're a slow cunt, ain't ya?

big if true

Least mindbroken zogmutt

Sometimes autism sure is useful

I'll take a 5080 for 60 bucks then.

literaly rather give the nothing that i have to chinks than jews

bro theres literaly nothing wrong with this ROM station, prolly one of the best ones

reality is that's probably what NVIDIA 4060 really costs.

Highly unlikely, considering how insanely sensitive the process is. Sure, once everything is tuned and working and their yeilds are high, they are not as expensive. But saying they cost nothing to make and excluding the tooling and process costs is not an argument. They are still very much overpriced and overvalued though.

why don't they use AI to generate better GPU/CPU

They do this already to an extent and have been for over 30 years. Do you think humans are laying out millions of transistors?

Holy fucking leave it in a shallow ditch