RECOVERY ANONS

Fuck Any 12s around? can’t reach my sponsor. gf just kicked me out. I fucked up big time. my fault. gonna get a hotel room but really want to get fcked up tonight. 5 years sober. My name is jeff and I’m an alcoholic and drug addict.

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If you're a jeet, I don't care.
If you're an actual Canadian, tell the demons to fuck right off.

I don't believe in 12 step bullshit but I'm a tweaker who takes long breaks

Do you want a voice call or would you rather discuss your issues here

If you're not actively using, you're not an addict. 12 steps are a cult and their success rates match cold turkey. Quit with the religious bullshit.

The problems you are suppressing by drinking will still be there when you sober up. Don’t fall for the siren call. It will eat you alive if you submit. Remember the dumb shit you did that made you stop in the first place. Do you want to relive that?

yes stay strong and stay sober. but part of the reason why you're craving so hard is that you never dealt with the reasons why you drink

thats the problem with AA, it keeps you dependent on the meetings. once i dealt with the reasons for why i drink, i was able to see through the lies of drinking and im now close to a year sober with no cravings. i get the idea to drink every once in a while but no hard cravings

read the book in picrel, its dedicated to the people in the fellowship of AA

if you really wanna attend a meeting, you can find an online zoom on through this site
lacoaa.org/meetings.php

but i suggest just buying the ebook i mentioned and reading it this weeknd

Hi Jeff, I’m an alcoholic and I recently relapsed. You will deeply regret relapsing and it won’t help your situation. Just get a pizza and jerk off and wake up tomorrow glad you didn’t relapse.

Fuck you nigger
Enjoy your meth. I did. I can’t “take breaks.” I’ve learned. I won’t go back there.

Just trying to find a hotel without a bar or fridge rn.
I did this.

Mark (of the beast) masonic imagery in OP.

I’ve been sober almost 10 years. I don’t work the steps anymore, because I have no desire to drink. What got me to that place is self loathing to be honest. I hate who I am no matter if I’m drunk or sober, but I hate myself much more after a good drunk. That feeling isn’t worth it to me. Besides, I used to drink in stressful or hard times, and now I just don’t care about things enough to stress or get angry anymore.

this

see my post. i believe AA is demonic. the founder admits to getting some of his material while doing seances with demons. its in his own biography. his own words not mine

you don't know what you're talking about fuckwit

Recovering addict

Doesn't know how to score drugs

Isn't banned from every hotel in town

Fuck off

Smart, avoid the bar. At least you've got the self control for that. Good call.

Drinking and drugging won't fix it, anon. Play the tape all the way through
This too. I haven't drank in over 2 years and meetings were just a new 'drinking' after a couple months. Plus some tranny kept going there to force people to call him a woman.
You won't since people eat or bring food to them too. You have to just not drink. Go to bed and then it's another day done

see this i will try to find the quote where Bill W says what i mentioned

Jeff, using again after 5 years is a big decision. Someone in your recovery program should have told you this, but if they didn't here it is: Don't make any big decisions at night. If in the clear light of day you look around and say you want to give up on 5 years then I wouldn't presume to you not to. But for tonight, right now getting fucked up will jet multiply your sorrows, and make whatever is wrong in your world even harder to recover from. You're sad and lonely, but you'll get through the night and find a way forward tomorrow.

Not everyone has to get to the point of sucking dicks to be sick and tired of being sick and tired. Expect Richie, he blew a dog for a pint of gin, but what are you going to do? The dog had gin.

cheers buddy

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I loved her anons. I really loved her. She was my rock after sobriety. I’m trying real hard to put my faith in God rn. But I fucked up. I cheated. I can’t even blame her. I can’t make amends here.

I’m in a fucking gas station looking for a motel room on this phone and a liquor store is across the street.

Move your car now. Drinking will only make things worse in every way

shut the fuck up
have a drink
and kill yourself
you dumb cunt

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Don't look at it.

Mean spirited and evil.

Yeah you fucked up, but drinking will make things even worse.

You still there, Jeff?

what the fuck are you fucking faggots even doing here on pol
go back to fucking reddit and stay there then kill yourselves you fucking poofters

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dude just buy the book on amazon and begin reading
dont drink and read instead

don't help anon fight the demon rum, encourage him!

Satan begone!

anon instead of getting drunk by yourself in a motel room maybe you should think about how you can apologize to that girl and maybe try to get her back. after that you could even worry about getting your life in order.

Bruh easy way to quit smoking is fucking magic. Don't know about alcohol but the smoking book literally got me done smoking in 6 hours

I know what it is to lose someone you love. My last relapse was right after a phone call telling me she was gone forever. They wouldn't even let me go to the funeral. I'm not trying to minimize your hurt, but she's still alive, so there's still a way back to good, even if things seem hopeless right now. There's something in you that need to be worked on. She already knows that. Do that work. Show her, don't tell her. This is cliche bullshit but it's true: As long as there is life, there is hope.

shut the fuck up chigger

whats yer poison op
so many to choose from
all delicious

FUCK IT.

my first drink in 5.

At least i didn’t get the vodka. But I may go back before I drive tonight hotel.

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That bottle still looks sealed, Jeff. You don't have to drink it.

I've seen some of the most fucked up shit possible on this website. But this is the first post that has ever made me sad. Don't do it Jeff.

"Idle hands are the devil's workshop"
Best thing you can do is find other things to do.
And then just don't stop doing that.
Then make that behavior, that line of daily activity doing anything that isnt drinking, into your norm.

Alcohol is pathetic - I don't mean that as an insult, but as a reminder. Steal it from me.

What did you do to make your gf throw you out?

Cheating was dumb. Don’t make it even dumber by ruining your life twice.

should've got yourself a nice whiskey for the occasion

Smash it on the ground

I apologized.
Yeah i know. I don’t care anymore.
There’s nothing I can work on that will bring her back. She told me.

I’m going to get the vodka and head to the motel and drink heavily. .

true to yourself

this was wagner's moto too

If you’re drinking this fast after a bad life event then you have just been waiting 5 years for something like this to happen so you have an excuse. Don’t do it retard.

yeah the alcohol one is just as good as the smoking one. I read both in a period of 2 months and quit smoking and drinking on the same day. august 8th, i dont think ill ever forget that date. if i ever get married ill try and get married on that day.

Cool faggot masonry logo for alcoholics to be atheistic satanists.

I cheated.

Dipshit.
Might as well get drunk.
Maybe try to work on some impulse control, or not.
Doesn't matter. You're still a loser.
She deserves better than a cheating drunk loser.

Checked. Being a gay buttfucking zionist.

Contemplate the actual reason you are drinking. There is one, even if you aren't consciously aware of it. Also, if you're kindled in the brain, the hangover with even a tiny bit of booze will be horrible.

I've been alone for almost 17 years and haven't had sex at all in 12, Jeff. Drinking will NOT fix this or make you feel better. Even right now

Smash the bottles on the ground and then go to sleep.

This is what fixing your addiction while not fixing what causes your need for an addiction looks like.

Seems Jeff just quit the booze but kept being a loser, and for 5 years was just looking for an excuse to go back to drinking.

t. clean for 6 years

I cheated and lied and she caught me out (but more complex than that)
You don’t know how much I’ve worked. You don’t know my life or service.

I’m going to drive now.

Honestly you will be a stronger person after having some fun tonight. You've neglected your inner child too long, and now you're being led by negativity and your emotions. You need to relax a little, and just got a little fucked up. One drink never killed anybody. Besides, you can just chill out, take the edge off, maybe smoke a little grass, you know, Cheech and Chong, right? Laugh a little. You're actually making your addiction worse and harder by trying to be so freakin strict about it. Dude, we're all still partying when we need to party, and five years of denying yourself just isn't sustainable. It's a night off, even Cal Ripkin had travel days. Have one day off, for your sanity, my brother! Deep down, you traded in one addiction for another and became a zero-fun-allowed control freak and egocentric asshole. You need a prescription for a chill pill. This Bud's for you, just like the good ol' days on the porch,

I know that you’re weak. And you do, too. That’s why you’re here asking for help and shitting in everyone who is trying to help you.

here’s the vodka.

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Smash it on the ground you fucking nigger faggot

still coddling this faggot cuck

Anon Babble is so fucking gay now Jesus Christ

just fix that time the masons molested when you less than 3 years old bro, I'm sure you acess such memory in time so you can make a good life for yourself.

maybe accepting what you can't fix could also help.

So you were always going to cheat, and you're going to cheat again. That's what you're about to show, and prove to her she's right to leave you.
But you don't really care about that, do you? It's more important to get retarded.

You can overcome such trauma. Drugs aren't the answer.

Are those hands brown? I take it all back. Bottoms up!

there are infinite potential versions of your future self, so why would you choose to be one of the pathetic drunk ones?

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Anon, forgive yourself for what you did and get off this destructive path, just because it's bad doesn't mean you have to make it really really really really bad.

Nah, seen too many alchoholics in my family go down this road to know what happens next. This thread is just his cope, he needs to be a dependent victim like he needs a groupthink "hi anon" when he introduces himself the the victim circle at AA.
You're going to hit rock bottom
You're probably going to if not already have burned every single bridge you have
You're going to cope and seethe every single step of the way while dragging down whatever company your misery attracts
And then you are going to die. Either from "the big fall" or after from the complication resulting from the big fall and the amount of recovery stunting you'll do while you drink waiting to recover.
Then everyone in your family will pretend to be sad while telling each other they saw it coming from a mile away. They will treat your death like it's a good thing, that you're finally liberated from the suffering and problems you yourself caused.

Me too. I never liked alcohol that much so it's not a problem for me to not drink, but benzodiazepines are something else... I get a pack of Clonazepam or Alprazolam, be high for about two weeks, then take a monthly break. Somehow, I learned to control my addiction, as before, I used to get so high I would forget a week has passed by, without me knowing where I was all that time. Or waking up in random places, fuck that. Keep the doses in the "medical range", make the breaks longer than the time you take them and it's fine.

My suggestion: find a video game of some kind and dive in for a few hours. Not very productive but far less destructive. Do that, and you'll be alright.

I cheated and lied and she caught me out (but more complex than that)

It's not more complex than that. You cheated and lied, and she caught you and booted you to the curb like she should.
There's nothing complex about shitbag behavior and people unwilling to tolerate it.

Cheers from an American fucking around for two months in Japan. Slow day. It's raining so I'm having a classic jap drink and some apps.

Usually I'd be out touring but... meh. It's raining.

Head to the countryside. Take a long train ride and beat the rain. You're gonna regret the days spent on nothing.

being a weak worthless faggot

kek just don't drink loser pretty easy

I've been here for awhile and many times since 08. There isn't too much else I gotta see. Gotta finish this up. Tommorow I move on to a onsen Resort. I just love business hotel breakfasts. They are really really good.

I am that word for word.

Don't do it anon.
I've been there.
The outcomes become increasingly worse. Just regroup your thoughts, maintain frame and work your way out of it sober.
Tomorrow will be a better day.

I went to a kirin distillery a few days back.

I had a pretty nice blend you could only get from that distillery. Meh. Not much of a whiskey drinker anyways.

Home I guess. Checked in and dude asked me (black eye didn’t help) if I wanted to stay more than a night, so I be here a week

I’m sorry but I’m going to get fucked up.

I’m sorry.

I love you Jen. I’m sorry

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Cool, never seen a photo of Japan from a "man on the streets" before, reminds me of when I lived in the Pacific Northwest.

5 years sober.

gf just kicked me out. I fucked up big time. my fault.

Glad that's working out for you *sip* Some people are just destined to fuck up. "Alcoholism" is a symptom, not a cause.

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Anon, abort this terrible ride, get some normal sleep and then figure out what to do in the morning. Stop acting like a dramatic woman ffs.

That's my room view for today. I've had much better in legit hotel highrises.

I liked this place. Drank alot of sake and watched sumo.

No. I’m gonna get fucked up anon. I don’t want to drink but it doesnt matter fuckimg drink with me you pussies

Jeff you fucking pussy

Fick you drink with me

sage

The regret you will feel after the bender when the depression, selfhatred kicks in ooof
Wouldnt want to be in yoir shoes Jeff
Its 8:30am and I need to work soon
Im good buddy, thanks

Let's all tip one back as distant buds. Here's to life and all its twists and turns.

I k ow.

This is now a thread

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Making "not drinking" into a religion fucks people up. They turn alcohol into this "forbidden fruit" that's always on their mind. Bad way to go about it, since when time comes and they crack even a little, they tend to go all in back into drinking.

Nice, strong Oregon/Washington vibes, I didn't realize.

He never resolved the true reason for which he drinks. He got a girlfriend and put this religious-tier of trust and belief into her to always be there, no matter what. That's the most common mistake; you don't put women on a pedestal, ever, the higher the pedestal, the longer your fall becomes once you realize you can't tie such important life decisions to a fallible human, especially a woman, who are famous for being as shifty as water.

But I could have got a bigger one. With the poisonous pit viper still in it.

See isn't this fun? Let's all drink and have fun.

Why the fuck can't I actually sage anymore, god fuck nu/pol/

Post more drinking related stuff. Dome of that is off topic.

What the fuck are we supposed to do? Tell you not to drink? You already know you shouldn't. I guess your relationship with God sucks, desu. Why are you letting bad circumstances affect your sobriety?

At least explain how did you manage to cheat if you love her that much. Sounds interesting.

I can say no the first, but never the second

Ya'll sincerely tried to help an alcoholic leaf-jeet and he went and acted like a complete drama queen. Good attempt boys.
I hope you didn't drink. I doubt you cheated for no reason, you were unhappy and not willing to to do the right thing first. Stop choosing the easy way bro. You can do better

If you don’t care about yourself could you at least put down the bottle to spite the jews or whatever company or conglomerate wants you sad addicted and enslaved?

Based. Alcohol feels amazing! I was just getting ready to go to sleep but your post inspired me to have a couple drinks instead.

Most of the time, in about 80% of the cases, an addiction, whatever it may be, is a result of escaping other people's expectations.

once you throw those to bin, liberate yourself

the addiction will be gone when you discover your own self and do what you actually love to do.

In 20% of the cases alcoholism is a systemic flaw of somekind, where most people have "a valve" that closes and forces the drinking to come full stop, these people doesn't have one or it is open all the time and they literally cannot stop.
To these people, I recommend to research

Sinclair Method

It is a pill that you take when starting to drink, it blocks the dopamine reseptors

for alcohol

It will then gradually rewire your brain, when you don't get the dopamine jolts anymore from alcohol and soon you're free from the curse.
Med industries, AA-clubs and all those opposes this because it is cheap, effective, safe and will run them out of business.

Pray, write inventory, make ammends

First step is to quit blaming yourself. Do some analyzis instead.
I did, once on tour and I had to be honest to myself and tho it was fun and all, I would just rather sit, talk shit and drink beer. It was all about proving a point and see what it is, once points were proven and all that there was to see was seen, there was nothing there anymore for me.
Last time I drank was two weeks ago.
Gonna take few today, with zero guilt, shame or anything like that. Just for fun.

Don't think about tonight. Think about tomorrow and the day after.
If you'd also get fucked up then, don't start today.

So where is everybody? We still drinking? Its almost 5pm here. Gonna crack something new open soon.

It's 10.48 am here, started "early", but actually not since I have 26 hours a day cycle, and this is my evening.
Let's party.
Jeff, too, if he has made up his mind and went to buy some vodka. I won't judge.

I won't judge.

nor feel sad

nor try to correct

..none of my business. I have already said all that needs to be said about

wanting to quit

Now, we listen some Finnish rock and roll.
youtube.com/watch?v=SZ4PnTFRQ6s

BROOS ALCOHOL IS LITERALLY SO COOL HAHA IT FEELS GREAT I GET LIKE A BUZZ AND THEN OO BABY A LITTLE WOOZY AND THEN IM LIKE SUPERMAN HAHAHA WOOOOW OMG I WANT TO DRINK EVERY DAY BROS HAHAHHAHA I LOOK AND TALK SO COOL WHEN IM DRINKING TOO AND EVERYONE THINKS IM SO AWESOME HAHAHAHAH

It's a jeet

Go drink yourself to death.

ALCOHOL IS LITERALLY SO COOL

It is best when it is cool, but warm will do, too.

"meetings were just a new 'drinking' after a couple months"
Yea, because you didn't actually do 12 step anything. "Going to meetings" doesn't fucking do anything retard. Do the work. Stop being a lazy shit and do the 12 steps. If you didn't even do a rigorous self reflection and document every last way you fucked up your life and the lives of the people around you with alcohol and drugs with an experienced, serious sponsor and make a plan to set each of those things straight, you haven't worked through anything at all and all that shame and guilt at your being a piece of shit will drive you right back to being useless and fucked up. Depending on how much shit you fucked up, this process should take months if done properly, and you'll feel terrible, because you're facing all that shame at being so shitty and useless head on. Feel free to keep doing the same shit over and over again, just don't discredit a process you were too lazy or scared to even try seriously.

Finally got some japanimation on, but it's kids stuff. Oh well. Tommorow during the day I am going to a place featured in my favorite anime before I go to the onsen hotel for the third time.

Horry shit, is it that bad at those meetings?
I would drink myself to death, if I was forced (by literal military) to go into such a place.

if you have a drunkard in your life - kick him/her out

"Siberia teaches" as the saying goes here.

if you're an alcoholic,

See if it is because of escaping the expectations of others, or, is it a literally a poor lottery ticket, a fault in brains?
Once you have nailed it to one or the other reasons, solutions are available that are always easy, simple and no-effort.

Easy as learning to drive a Honda cr500.

Jeet hands types this.

Here's something I haven't translated yet next to the tallest tower in the world. Cheers and Kampai.

What's the most common man's name in Japan?
Everybody calls Finns Pekka, swedes Sven, germans Hans, french Pierre, Italians Luigi..

I think Japanese men deserves to be called by name here. After all this is a Japanese anime board, right?

Call somebody you trust from your group dumbass. Don't be a retard--this won't help you and you know it. Face your problems head on, pray to God for guidance, don't be a bitch, and learn from it. Once you're over this, figure out what God wants for you. You gotta change something if you're on the edge of a cliff all the time. Get back to pursuing this on a daily basis. This isn't a one time thing, it's a continuous process as I'm sure you've heard a million times

Takeshi.

A common last name is Yamamoto. I can't really say because their are alot of variances. You can have shinzo and shinji and shin this and that. Who knows. At the bars/izakayas I just say sumimasen and point or order on tablet and phone. Sometimes robots bring stuff out.

HAHA MAN YOURE SO COOL TOO FOR KNOWING THAT ALCOHOL JUST ROCKS DUDE I JUST LIKE TO DRINK AND DRINK AND DRINK AND THEN IM LIKE WOOOOOOO! WOOOOOO! AND EVERYONE CLAPS AND CHEERS AT ME BECAUSE THEY THINK ALCOHOL IS COOL TOO AND THESE ARE GOOD PEOPLE TO BE AROUND HAHAHAH NORMIES DONT DRINK THEY SUCK AND WERE NOT THE LOSERS THEY ARE HAHAHAHA NORMIES CANT HAVE FUN LIKE WE CAN ROCK ON MY ALCOHOL BROSKI

You have any idea how harmful THAT is?

immense torment of a guy who is already going through another Hell.

Stop doing that. Jeeses.
Maybe it only takes a fren, who doesn't judge and points out it is always alright, and, failures in life are expected and designed - in order to form the best of the best.

An admit, AA-clubs are a multibillion franchice and and a healed patient is a lost customer. Come on, admit it.

All I need to do to prove my point is:

Sinclair Method

and how AA-clubs and all other industries opposes it like plague.
It is most no-effort, cheap and fast solution to the problem - IF the problem's root is at "poor lottery ticket", which applies only to about 20% of alcoholics. To the rest 80%, alcoholism is means to escape the fuckien bullies whom the poor bastard can't never satisfy.

He is pretty cool. I'm a pretty hip cat too because I can tell you yes... you can drink cheap sake slightly warm, but in general all sakes are best served cool/chilled.

Takeshi.

Thanks. All Japan flags are hereby written by a Takeshi.

But I am a proud American. I just like chilling here in one of our conquered nations. It's important for us to tour and take in the sights, sounds and tastes of other lesser nations not only to reward those who comply with our foreign policy but to increase our own quality of life.

No matter how bad a situation is, you can always count on alcohol making it 100 times worse.

It's important for us to tour and take in the sights, sounds and tastes of other lesser nations

You forgot the importance of smells. :)
I heard, can't remember where, about a decade ago that CIA has 20 officers or agents specialized in Italy, her people and relations, and, none of the agents can't speak italian.

Amerikka is a yuge bubble.
If you would stop compensating your lack of actual knowledge of other nations with arrogance, you would find world much more enjoyable.

sincerely, Pekka

I've hardly even touched rice in Japan and these silly people are complaining that it has gone up 100% in the last year in price and the government is now releasing stockpiles for half the price or so.

Lol. God I hate rice. This body lives on alcohol, meat, cheeses and seafood.

Chicken is made for rice.
Everybody who eats chicken without rice is a barbarian.

Lol OK buddy. I wish it was a huge bubble. God bless the USA and God bless Donald J. Trump. I love watching them over here stand shocked and worried whenever we make a move. Such is much of the world. ;)

Imagine if we had that terrible biden in again. We'd be in a mess. No respect.

The last time I had anything with rice at home was a stuffed pepper. I just don't eat rice. Fried rice with chicken is OK, but too many carbs.

I just switched to cannabis and honestly liking it.

Your whole "don't blame yourself" retardation is a prototypical example of the problem with secular morality and people like you. Nothing is serious. You should feel deep pain for moral wrongs--it serves as a grave lesson by which you become a better man. Instead you ignore shame and guilt as a rule, meaning you don't feel responsible for your actions. By this same token, you are limited to forever be a placid sheep, because you don't hold yourself to any standard on a deep level. You've sidestepped the whole problem of good and evil and become as ineffectual as a paperweight. Actual, normal western men should be Christians, and should wrestle with demons and come out the other side better and obtain higher levels of agency and mastery. Modern western society is full of slaves at this point, totally submissive to relentless and systematic exploitation, predatory extraction of wealth, ethnic cleansing, brainwashing, etc, and this wholly unmasculine way of thinking is the problem

Yuck. Nah. No nay never.

God bless the USA and God bless Donald J. Trump.

Indeed.

EU is a very big problem.
Not European nations per se.
Finland, for example, is stuck. Won't move, cannot move. Euro has been an absolute disaster. We're behind Sweden 30% in economics, only because of euro. By the time we adopted euro, we were on same level. Ever since that, it has been downhill. No one, I mean literally no one, can say one thing that justifies the sacrifices we have already made in order to keep this shit circus alive.

no need to show passport in customs?

free trade?

Bullshit. Only directives upon directives that makes old world customs look like a fairytale.
What the hell is so difficult in showing a passport?
But these two are the only selling points.

We have here done absolutely everything at our power to do, to fix things, but it is impossible since the problem is abroad.

If you ask me,

USA should get in league with Russia and China and

squeeze the living shit out of EU.

not from European states

Only way to fix Finland.

She IS worth saving, man.

Only Trump can do it.