WTC7, a building further than others, falls
other, closer to the towers, remain standing
Really joggles the boggles.
WTC7, a building further than others, falls
Even more impressive when you learn that thousands of cars MELTED and the planes were actually cgi
Have you read Final Report on the Collapse of World Trade Center Building 7: Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster?
Fire from the degree had spread to building seven, do you know how hot burning jet fuel can become?
Other buildings also got hit with burning debree but were easier to contain. How is this so hard to comprehend?
Anyone know the distance between WTC1 and WTC7?
something superficially unintuitive happened at a disaster site. that means it must be due to a large jewish conspiracy. im sure OP has a really compelling and coherent reasoning of how the jews who orchestrated this fake disaster and used holograms or planes and rigged these buildings with explosives overlooked the fact that it would seem weird that one building farther away than others, that couldnt have been destroyed under the normal laws of physics, was in fact destroyed and 90-IQ conspiracy theorists would easily see this. OP will also be able to explain what exactly the point of this grand murderous conspiracy was. i await his thoughtful and cogent explanation.
Show another example of a steel skyscraper suddenly collapsing from a fire as if the structure was sheared with demolition charges.
Oh, and example other than WTC1 and WTC2
it's much more likely that it was an insidious jewish conspiracy run by the cabal of crypto-jews who control the world and never get caught. all large-scale tragedies are actually mossad.
Jews did this!
No one even brought the jews into this conversation, you loon
I spoke too soon
He said the line!
Pull it!
Pull it!
Pull it!
Big money!
No Whammy!
Pull it, Larry Silverstein
Cgi is not powerful enough to melt steel beams. Let alone cause to buildings to collapse. Get a brian moran.
Steel loses about 1/2 its strength at half the temperature required to melt it. This is well within the range of temperatures possible in building fires.
The structures were also weakened by being rammed by 150-ton airliners crashing into them at about 500 MPH and then the explosion of 10,000 gallons of jet fuel which caused fires across multiple floors. After the fuel burn off, the fires were maintained by the burning of the contents of the buildings. So these were not “typical” high rise fires.
Also, the Wilton Paes de Almeida Building was a high-rise that collapsed from a fire in 2018.
The Plasco Building in Tehran was a high-rise that collapsed from a fire in 2017.
you lose, fag. stop putting bananagrams up your butt.
yeah, im sure OP is just asking an innocent question that he randomly thought about, and it has no ulterior motive of implying that 9/11 was not done by saudi hijackers flying planes into buildings. i'm sure OP is just a student studying structural engineering right now.
The WTC's did collapse from the planes though. You can clearly see the side of the buildings bending and buckling under their weight in some of the collapse footage. The 'conspiracy' comes from the fact that the CIA and Mossad glowies absolutely knew that an attack with planes was coming but didn't do anything to prevent it. They also knew that Al-Qaeda operatives were already in the country such as Midhdhar and Hazmi were already in the country months before the attack.
The controlled demolition retards are just helping the glowie narrative by making sure that questioning the event looks ridiculous in most normal people's eyes.
Show me an example
Surely other skyscrapers have collapsed from a fire if your math checks out.
Bonus if the fire isn't externally visible.
Who were the E-Team and what were they doing there prior to the attack though?
The towers collapsing from being hit by planes is at least plausible.
The story behind the collapse of Building 7 isn't.
I remember a lot of the shenanigans that went on around that time.
They should have come up with a better slogan than "Nevar 4get"
Show me an example
dear fucking idiot, i gave two examples in the post you responded to:
Wilton Paes de Almeida Building. that was a steel skyscraper in brazil. a fire started on one of the middle floors and it collapsed 90 minutes later. it happed in 2018.
also, the Plasco Building in Tehran in 2017. steel high-rise that had a fire on one of the middle floors and it collapsed in a couple hours.
stop being a fucking retard.
Hard to tell which direction these threads will take.
Sometimes it's
No planes
UFOs
Space lasers
Jewish space lasers
ine.uaf.edu
The principal conclusion of our study is that fire did not cause the collapse of WTC 7 on 9/11, contrary to the conclusions of NIST and private engineering firms that studied the collapse.
Death to the muslim pest.
Again, the CIA and Mossad glowies obviously knew about it or at least that an attack was incoming and did nothing to prevent it. Nobody was arguing about that. But when you enter a territory in which you try and claim that they themselves demolished the towers, then that goes into looney territory. You can clearly see the tower collapse from the pressure of the upper floors here:
youtube.com
And we have no good footage of WTC7's collapse apart from that one video where half the building is obscured, but I would imagine it is no different than WTC1 and 2 would have. That is the fire and the damage done from the North Tower caused a couple of floors to buckle which in turn caused the upper floors to go down on the rest and thus you have what you see in that video.
Sorry, didn't read the whole thing at first
Words, words, words.
They looked just like Building 7 before it collapsed
Are you an anti-semite anon?
What is WI-99-EYE?
But when you enter a territory in which you try and claim that they themselves demolished the towers, then that goes into looney territory.
Why?
"Never let a crisis go to waste"
Tuskegee experiment
Agent Orange coverup
Our government isn't full of ethical people
You tell me.
And when has anyone suggested it is? But the demolition theory goes against all the evidence and makes you look stupid. All the glowies needed to do is let the attack through and nothing else. That was already more than enough to get enough political capital to get entangled in the ME.
Gold vaults were founded empty in the rubble? Must be nothing
All the glowies needed to do is let the attack through and nothing else.
This much is true.
Regardless, I remember seeing the collapse of Building 7 being shown for a short time in the news coverage and thought it didn't make any sense why it fell, even back in 2001.
W-199-EYE was a directive prohibiting law enforcement from interfering/investigating the actions of individuals or groups involved in destruction of the WTC.
the time BBC's Jane Standley reported the collapse of WTC7 before it happened, and then Editorial reflection declared it "cockup not conspiracy" that the original aired tapes were lost
They were hit near the top, retard. What weakened the bottom so much that it fell into it's own footprint? There was nothing at the top. No collapses until the whole damn thing went down. If it was rammed in such a powerful way, why didn't it tip? It was strong enough to absorb the full force of a 737 hitting it but fell into it's own footprint when some jet fuel poured down the elevator shafts? Give me a fucking break.
So a plane hitting the top and being absorbed is fine but some hot boy juice spilling on some steel beams is enough to bring it down? Weird how no who survived talked about the burning jet fuel pouring down the elevator shafts.
You watched that footage and still believe the hoax? Why was there zero resistance in the 100 floors below? Why were their no smaller collapses before the whole thing falls into it's footprint? Both buildings did the exact same thing and so did building 7 that wasn't touched by a plane. The lower floors should've been more structurally sound than the upper floors but there was zero resistance given by them.
Building 7 had no jet fuel in its fire yet collapsed the same way 1 and 2 which you explain as being caused by jet fuel.
Saved
They straight up fingered israel as a potential culprit during the radio broadcast I was listening to at work on 9/11
The older guys were joking about it being the beginning of "Revelations."
Must have been shortly after the time Urban Movers were busted at the scene.
Spent my youth listening to apocalypse grifters my mother listened too, so I was spooked out by it.
I wonder if any record of that broadcast still exists
Plane knocked down over Pennsylvania may have been meant for building 7
somehow they benefitted.
however i doubt that they where behind it. there's lots of smoke pointing to juden but no fire. dont know how they do it seriously
No, no he hasn't.
It was "hot smoke and debris" that brought it down.
Who did the radio broadcast? BBC?
Be struck by the full force of a 737
Perfectly fine
Get some smoke and debris on you
I'm going down!
Sorry, didn't read
lol
lmao, even
conspiracy theorists in a nutshell
Neat cope. Now do building 7, the failure of the entire US military machine and the disintegrating Pentagon one.
Well, the other buildings didn't have documents relating to financial investigations that were being investigated now, did it?
I remember this; there used to be a webm of the report.
Get a brian moran
kek, been awhile since I've seen that in the wild.
based
Fucking psychic ass jet fuel looking ass
my conspiracy is that jews ultimately work for me, theyre the goyim in this reality, it dawned on me when a jew girl I was dating was sucking on my nuts and stroking my shaft at the same time
Why was there zero resistance in the 100 floors below
there was significant resistance from the floors below. the towers collapse much slower than freefall.
Why were their no smaller collapses before the whole thing falls into it's footprint?
there was. first the top collapsed, and then it fell on the bottom, and the bottom collapsed when it got hit by the top.
Both buildings did the exact same thing
so? they received the same damage
so did building 7
building 7 had a retarded cantilever design that made it particularly vulnerable to structural failure
it's all fucking lies, mistruths and fabrications. I'm tired of pretending it's not.
The harder you propagandise, the more I don't believe you
go tell your therapist. i don't care about your feelings.
yep. 28 structural support columns failed somewhere beneath floor 5 in a span of one second
There was not significant resistance, retard. If there were it would have stopped, even momentarily. It didn't. No one said it fell at freefall speed, stupid. But that was much faster than it should have been. Answer this question. A building is designed to dissipate weight in a vertical way since that's what it's going to be doing the whole time. It's not designed at all to withstand horizontal forces. So why should the building pancaking be enough to bring it down but not a full fucking 737 blowing into the side of it? It didn't even collapse the floor it hit.
lotta shills ITT, overt jewbaggery is afoot
You have been selected for your lack of empathy, and are sociopathic. I expect nothing less from lying kikes that put their sins into a swinging bird above their head
You push your propaganda, I see it, I wretch.
so if it fell slower than freefall speed, it must therefore have experienced resistance.
right?
So why should the building pancaking be enough to bring it down but not a full fucking 737 blowing into the side of it?
go take a 10kg dumbell and place it gently on your foot. not too bad, right?
now lift that dumbbell to shoulder height and drop it on your foot.
report back with your findings.
Oh look, Jews
9/11 was an IQ test to see how gullible and retarded Americans are.
You failed the test, humanity failed 90% of Reddit believes the official story.
If you question the events in almost any sub you will get downvoted and treated like a dumb conspiracy theorist
90% of Reddit believes the official story.
90% of Reddit is 'Non-lethal Warfare' USAF botfarms pushing consensus narrative
Oh no, it's another cope thread from butthurt americans, mad that they got btfo by based muslims.
"NOOOO, MY MEGA POWERFUL GVT LIKE IN MY TV SHOW THAT HAS CONTACT WITH UFO HAS TO BE BEHIND THIS!!!!"
absolutely desperate stuff.
No, it was practically zero resistance, moron. Your analogy is dogshit too. Why don't you take a pencil, stand it on it's end, and crush it into it's own footprint. How much more force do you need to do that than breaking it in half at the middle? Now how much force do you think a fully laden 737 going 200mph would impart to a building? Barely even made it wobble but a few floors collapsing onto 100 floors is enough to bring it down? Engineers have already figured this shit out when it comes to building demolitions. If they don't set their charges in a very specific way, the building is going to topple onto it's side. You might have some kind of fucking point if the plane hit the base but we're talking about the weight of several floors being able to crush over a hundred beneath it. It's ridiculous.
Oh no, an image from 2005 from some american boomer!!
Also, how is the super mega powerful US military doing in yemen?
Why don't you take a pencil
a pencil isn't hollow. try the same thing with a paper straw and you'll see how easy it is.
you're so dumb lmao.
keep going, kike
Doubt it was BBC.
Not sure who it was.
It was broadcast over a local station.
WRRK in Pittsburgh was the station they listened to at the time, but it could have been tuned to something else.
Pretty sure yemen is dabbing on the kike and the US rn.
Surprisingly hard when you don't spell it "debris"
Buildings are hollow
Retard alert. Show me you doing it with a paper straw then. Collapse it perfectly into its footprint without it bowing out at the sides anywhere. That's what happens when something designed to bear the load vertically is smashed. It bows out because it requires far less force horizontally to collapse. The plane itself didn't even collapse it and that was some hellacious force being applied in a way the building was never designed to encounter. They collapsed it with demo charges when they realized it wasn't going to fall by itself. They really wanted it to fall sideways but the engineers built it too fucking strong.
Responding to 4 other anons ITT
Glanced over your post
Didn't read the entire thing
Sorry for being honest.
My conspiracy theory is that the official narrative is retarded.
Your comparison of buildings that collapsed as burnt-out husks to WTC 7 is also retarded.
Believing they found 2 (two) singed passports among thousands of tons of rubble was retarded as well
They collapsed it with demo charges when they realized it wasn't going to fall by itself
rofl
So you're saying that WTC collapsing like that was unprecedented and the feat wouldn't be duplicated for more than 15 years
Collapse it perfectly into its footprint without it bowing out at the sides anywhere
i crush cans all the time and they collapse perfectly into their own footprint.
the weight of the floors inside the building caused the perimeter support columns to buckle inward, which resulted in vertical collapse. exactly the same as when i stand on a can and my mate pokes it with a stick to buckle the side.
you can literally recreate the 9/11 collapse yourself right now with a soft drink can. that's exactly how it happened.
It bows out
no lol. go stand on an aluminium can. it doesn't bow out. then when you dent it, it collapses into its own footprint. in 9/11, the "dent" is created by the weight of the internal floors sagging and pulling on the perimeter columns.
this is all so fucking basic lmao.
But there were people walking around directly under the buildings and there sre videos. You don't see molten lava splashing around to building 7
Sorry for being honest.
the honesty is okay, it's the laziness and stupidity that you should be apologising for.
You sure have a lot of stuff prepared about this, you fucking glowfag. Weird how it takes your entire weight to crush fucking aluminum. That just shows how strong a vertical weight dispersion is. How come you don't crush cans by dropping other cans on them? Your analogy requires there to be a magnificent force being applied to the top in order to do it. More than you ever would have received from a couple floors collapsing.
A gigantic concrete and steel megastructure shares the physical attributes of a soft-drink can
Fuck off jew. You are an evil cunt and there is a reckoning coming to your kind.
More than you ever would have received from a couple floors collapsing.
the upper section of wtc1 weighed as much as the titanic, and it fell on the lower section. skyscrapers are not designed to resist the force of other sksyscrapers falling on them.
You sure have a lot of stuff prepared about this
and you don't? well for someone who admits to knowing nothing about this topic, you sure seem to have a lot of opinions about it.
A gigantic concrete and steel megastructure shares the physical attributes of a soft-drink can
correct. that's why a soft drink can is such a good analogy. they both have perimeter load bearing designs and when the perimeter elements buckle they fail in the same way.
Reinforced concrete really is superior, especially with today’s over-engineering. You could fly 10 planes into one of those and it wouldn’t go down
I don't have graphics about soda cans ready to go, retard. It didn't fall on it, a few floors collapsed. You're analogies are all dogshit. It wasn't a weight being dropped from a height, it was a few floors collapsing. Barely 1% of the building that it fell. It isn't a can either, since buildings aren't hollow, you dumb fuck. Try putting 4 pencils in a can standing up and see how easy it is to crush. You argue like such a fucking kike.
soft drink cans dont have a core
This. (((They))) had to demo building 7 anyways or the plan would be exposed
I don't have graphics about soda cans ready to go
i drew it in paint specially for you, it took me 5 seconds.
It didn't fall on it, a few floors collapsed
yes. a few floors collapsed. because those floors collapsed, they were no longer supporting the weight of all the floors above them. those floors then fell on the floors below them. like if you drop a dumbbell on your foot vs if you put it there gently.
buildings aren't hollow
then why do we build them? we build buildings to put things inside of. for us to put things inside buildings, they must therefore have empty space inside them to hold the things. ergo, buildings are hollow and not at all like a pencil, which is not hollow.
see?
Why did building 7 collapse?
they're also not 100 storeys tall. but the mechanism of failure is the same. the wtc had a load bearing perimeter.
refer to
Really puts that 7 into September
it is probably not long until the average home computer can run full simulations of this
Because it was the only other building there that was constructed in the same way as the twin towers. (Very very Jewish construction)
Every other building was a good-old white-man's concrete construction.
They aren't hollow, you fucking kike. They have giant pillars running the entire height of it. You could literally lift up one tower and drop it onto the other and you wouldn't get it falling into it's footprint. It's designed to bear those kinds of loads. You can't just crush support beams into their own footprint.
They aren't hollow
then where do the people go?
You could literally lift up one tower and drop it onto the other and you wouldn't get it falling into it's footprint
i don't believe you. prove it.
If the construction was so bad then how could it take the full force of a laden 737 flying into the side of it? It didn't even fucking wiggle when it struck. And that's the weak axis.
You proved it yourself when you stood on a weak ass aluminum can. How many empty cans do you weigh?
a building further than others
If a tower fall, what part will travel and accelerate the most? The top or the base? It's logic that wtc7 got hit the hardest by the most burning parts of the twin towers.
you are ignoring what i said about buckling.
or are you? maybe you're just so dumb it didn't even register. maybe you don't even realise that that's part of the argument you need to address.
anyway, lmao @ you.
not at all, you can't crush a tube if it has a core. best case you crush the tube and the core remains standing
if this actually the cause of the collapse then every other building like this would be impossible to insure and would be condemned and demolished. since zero buildings have been condemned and demolished due to this supposed design flaw i am confident that explanation is not valid
Buckling
Falling into it's own footprint
Pick one, you stupid kike.
not at all, you can't crush a tube if it has a core
yes you can, it just takes more force. furthermore, the core of wtc buckled.
i don't get why you people think skyscrapers are all one solid piece. they are made of smaller pieces. they don't just cast the frame in iron as one piece and then stand it up using a helicopter. they are made of individual steel beams. once the rigidity of the structure was compromised it literally fell apart. that's what collapse means.
aluminium cans fall into their own footprint when they buckle, which we have already established and you have already agreed to.
WTC 1, 2, and 7 were all wired for demolition. I'm not a no-plane theory guy. I do believe there were actual planes used to create a cover story for how the Twin Towers collapsed, although I don't think they were piloted by a bunch of 80-IQ cave dwellers. Most likely, they were flown remotely into the towers.
WTC 7 is the smokiest gun in history since no plane hit it. The official explanation for how it fell perfectly into its own footprint is prima facie horse shit.
...But then it collapsed, so it clearly was not a good construction.
A proper concrete building would also have withstood the full force of a 737 and wouldn't have collapsed afterwards from the fire
Never thrown a rock of a high place and watched it bounce?
A building isn't a can, you kike. Put some pencils in the can to represent the support beams and see what happens when they "buckle" aka collapse horizontally, which was never seen in any footage of the incident. Show me just one beam protude from the side of the building. That's what buckling means. You do speak english, don't you?
it just takes more force
yeah a whole lot more you fucking dingus, at that point you're crushing solid steel straight down straight through the highest path of resistance
Center to center 120m, 50m at the closest edge.
They were hoping to topple them into their side but it was built too strong. The demo charges were the backup plan. I have no idea if this is true, but was the trajectory of the planes in the same direction as wtc7?
Any building will collapse if you blow up it's supports.
A building isn't a can
the mechanism of collapse is the same. perimeter failure due to buckling leading to vertical collapse.
Put some pencils in the can to represent the support beams
the support beams of WTC were not a single giant piece of steel 100 storeys tall. they were trusses. when the building collapsed, the trusses fell apart. or, more accurately, the trusses fell apart so the building collapsed.
you are moving the goalposts now. first you say that vertical collapse could never lead to something collapsing into its own footprint. you have been given an inarguable, unassailable example of how vertical collapse often causes things to collapse into their own footprint. now you're whining about how no acksually the support columns.
you were wrong the first time. why would anyone believe that you're going to be right this time? why should i not just assume that this entire argument won't be you shifting the goalposts to some other new topic to be wrong about every time you get proven wrong?
you don't bother to read posts, you're stupid, you're lazy, you have already admitted that you're ignorant, and yet you expect me to keep responding to you seriously.
I can’t imagine anyone actually defending the official story in 2025 that isn’t a fucking kike. Kill yourself
yeah a whole lot more you fucking dingus
like, for example, dropping a skyscraper on it.
If you watch the plane entering the steel beam structure, your brain tricks you into thinking it’s possible. But if you just think about an aluminum can flying into a solid steel beam at 300mph, the video cannot be real.
You haven't proven anything. You talked about aluminum cans like a pilpulling kike. Even in your example, you're proven wrong not just by me but other anons as well. This is the last gasp of a kike argument. Feign consensus and try to shame. You'll be ejecting yourself from this thread momentarily, I'm sure.
oh, and also, you insist that buildings aren't hollow but can't answer how people manage to fit inside them.
if a skyscraper is a single solid unitary construction, how did the wtc accomodate 30,000 people daily? where did they go? do they cling to the outside of the building? do they stand on the roof? how do they get to the roof is the building isn't hollow? are their stairs on the outside?
skyscrapers are hollow.
You haven't proven anything.
you said: things never collapse into their own perimeter!
i said: here are several examples of things that collapse into their own perimeter
you said: but what about!!!
i have proven everything. you are dumb. you think that skyscrapers aren't hollow.
How many empty cans can you crush by dropping other cans on them? How many empty cans do you weigh? These questions will never be answered by you because you're a kike.
Your examples are dogshit and don't even support your position. You're a fucking moron.
Larry Silverstein needs to pay more for asbestos remediation than the buildings are worth
obtains new insurance coverage
has his Mossad buddies wire them for demolition
arrange for some retarded moslems to hijack airliners and fly them into the buildings
buildings which were specifically designed to tank commercial jet impacts
on the same day that there are large-scale military training exercises which hamper response to hijackings
anonymously warn mid-level jews hours before with israeli social media messaging service
jet fuel which definitely didn't mostly explode in a large fireball melts steel beams
three buildings completely collapse
one of which was barely scathed
this has never been observed before or since
NIST models never released, can't be reproduced
the rubble remains hot for months despite continuous firefighting
mossad kikes arrested filming and celebrating the attack
it's immediately blamed on Israel's enemies with the aid of a CIA asset
the Internet is flooded with retardation about holograms and space lasers to discredit skepticism
a second Middle East adventure begins, roping in Iraq for no fucking reason, lasts decades
my almonds are fully activated
TKD
cantilever design
Doesn't explain why it demoed into its own footprint the same exact way buildings 1&2 did due to jet fuel fires as claimed
So you're saying that things cannot ever happen for the first time and you wish more buildings burnt down and collapsed to "duplicate" past events
Deflection from the point.
They were all demoed.
forgot to mention that the pentagon strike also conveniently put an end to an investigation of trillions in fraud
dropping a skyscraper on it
it IS the skyscraper fml, oh my god you are so not worth arguing with, go in a corner and contemplate your shame
Why don’t the FBI just release the unredacted interviews with the Israeli “moving company”? That would settle the conspiracy theory in the most part. Releasing the NIST modelling of the collapse of WTC 7 would answer many remaining questions and doubts. For some reason the NIST modelling is secret and what was initially released required a 7 metre deflection to cause a collapse, kek! Perhaps if you are studying engineering you could reach out to the engineering professors, architects and physicists also confused and unable to understand why WTC 7 collapsed due to fire or “being hit by debris” - accounts vary? Make it a dissertation topic?
when you consider all the debris from WTC1, and the shonky scaffolding like structure of WTC7, it's possible it collapsed on its own
theres no reason terrorists would target the pentagon so its 100% an inside job. doest matter how the buildings fell. who made them fall is all we should be asking
Does anyone else remember a few months ago when an Israeli politician threatened another 9-11 if the US didn't give them more money and weapons, but this time even more destructive? The Keebler elves remember.
That would settle the conspiracy theory in the most part.
1. No it wouldn't, no amount of clarification does with you "people". Plus, every single thing that gets released you can claim is manufactured and fake
2. 2001 was 20 years ago, too many people are still alive and have a right to their privacy
it is well established that public interest trumps privacy concerns. the only reason to protect privacy is to protect criminals. every bit as true for 911 as jfk
Kek that "australian" faggot jumped vpns.
It's really crazy how someone whispers WTC7 on Saturday morning halfway around the world and instantly we have a Talmudic zealot jumping in in defense of Israel.
He is so retarded that he doesn't know he can upload pdf to chatgpt and question it...
What you don't see in most videos is the other side of building 7. The bottom half of a large section of the building was scooped out by falling chunks from one of the towers. It was also on fire in the spot and the fire grew over the course of the day. Building 7 was extensively damaged, but all the video you see was taken from the undamaged side.
Yeah, we all know that when you chop a wedge out of a tree it falls straight down.
You retards wouldn't know a sound argument if it fell on your head at freefall speed
Buildings on fire for several hours and damaged by debris tend to fall over and I don't think it's that unreasonable.
1. Debris lands on car and opens it in some fashion
2. Hot ash and flammable shit falls onto a flammable part of the car such as a seat or now-exposed gas tank
3. The car has no firefighters giving a shit about it
4. It burns fully, shattering windows, stripping paint and popping tires.
But I have no fucking clue what you're talking about with melting. Crushed and burned sure, but I think you might just be seeing things. Sure you don't just mean it warped from heat?
Being suspicious doesn't mean you're guilty. Seriously, the evidence is that they got caught in a van with some cash and a box cutter, and then got interrogated for a while. But there's no *evidence* of any kind they knew anything at all. That's where the whole narrative goes from conspiracy theory to conspiracy hypothesis.
They jews tho!
Thats still not evidence, sorry to say. Try harder than seething
An appeal to incredulity is not evidence of plants or demolition, sorry to say
Being jewish isnt a crime or evidence of a crime
WTC 7 collapsed due to fire-induced structural failure, not from jet fuel or aircraft impact. Debris from the collapse of WTC 1 ignited fires on multiple floors of WTC 7, and the building's sprinkler system failed due to a lack of water pressure.
Unlike WTC 1 and 2, which suffered immediate structural damage from aircraft impact and jet fuel fires, WTC 7 burned uncontrolled for nearly seven hours. According to the NIST report:
"Even without the structural damage, WTC 7 would have collapsed from fires having the same characteristics as those experienced on September 11, 2001."
— NIST NCSTAR 1A, Executive Summary, page xxxvii
The critical failure in WTC 7 began with the thermal expansion of steel beams, which caused the failure of a key support column (Column 79), triggering a progressive internal collapse. The report explicitly states:
"This was the first known instance of the total collapse of a tall building primarily due to fires."
— NIST NCSTAR 1A, Executive Summary, page xxxv
There was no need for jet fuel to be present in WTC 7; ordinary office fires were sufficient, given the building’s structural vulnerabilities and lack of firefighting intervention.
So no—WTC 7 did not "collapse the same way" as WTC 1 and 2, and the cause was not jet fuel. The similarities in visual collapse appearance are superficial and not indicative of identical failure mechanisms.
Your conspiracies are mad boring. I bet there was an earthquake (natural or artificial) in Manhattan that day.
Or maybe aliens targeted it with next century lasers.
Or quantum shift caused WTC to swap places with the one of the less sturdy versions.
Maybe jews used their gematrics to crush it.
How about Boaz and Jachin/this world is their entertainment theory?
when you realise the scaffolding like structure of WTC7, any structural failure will pull the rest of the structure down with it, it's not sturdy like a tree
go away
You can't build a 110 story building out of concrete. Yes, there were shitloads of concrete in the WTC buildings, but concrete was not the support structure.
after watching this, you will all understand how it collapsed
youtube.com
Skyscrapers are very very heavy. It takes a lot more support than its own structure can provide to deflect it from going straight down. 9/11 was an inside job and an Israeli plot, but the buildings were not destroyed by controlled demolition. This has always been a red herring.
Buildings on fire for several hours and damaged by debris tend to fall over and I don't think it's that unreasonable
because you are an idiot
three times in world history, a scyscraper went down due to fire. same day, same plaza
you defending jews is understandable, they pay you
but how you do it is just retarded
creates conspiracy theories even about someone replying to their shitty posts
and this is why nothing will ever convince you, LMAO
building collapses in almost free fall
not a demolition
The most important part of 9/11 discourse is understanding (((who))) was behind it. As long as we can agree on that point, we're good. Kicking around different theories for how the towers fell is more just a fun thought experiment and intellectual exercise.
three times in world history, a scyscraper went down due to fire. same day, same plaza
It's therefore unprecedented and you have no intuitive understanding of the scenario and whether it's unreasonable or not...
you defending Jews is understandable, they pay you
I'm just telling you that you have nothing on them retard, saying they're jewish and there's too many of them is not in fact evidence of a crime. There's nothing to defend other than not accusing people of things there's no reason to believe they did.
And I sure wish people were paid to talk shit to you guys, what a gig that would be. Can you show me the signup? That would be evidence it exists. Something you need before accusing others of something, you remember that right
The steel and concrete was enough to support 4 WTC towers sitting on top of it. A single floor implosion was physically impossible of starting a catastrophic collapse in on itself. The core specifically had to be thermally cut at each load bearing point to collapse the way it did. Normies don’t understand what it actually takes to “bend” or “cut” steel.
The glowies really got triggered with this thread. Suddenly all these experts of 911 (from other countries) come out in full force to parrot the official story
I've heard this argument my whole life but nothing to support it.
Convince me a collapsing skyscraper doesn't just fall like that. You keep telling me it shouldn't but why would some random fuck posting pepes know that? You're parroting someone else and they never provided evidence either, so why do you even believe it?
The collapse started from the top you retard.
My Jew friend, people aren’t buying what you are selling. Your privacy point is of course nonsense. We all know what happened, as with the Epstein flight records we won’t be told, not for privacy reasons but because if the truth was revealed it would be catastrophic for your kind. It’s not a sensible policy.
By this argument diamond is impervious to damage and cannot be damaged by anything softer than it. It's truly nonsense to suggest a plane cant go through something because it's aluminum and the target is steel. The aluminum's going really fucking fast dude
To be fair the buildings were specifically designed to withstand a strike by a plane of the dimensions that hit the towers. So it would be sensible to investigate why the building collapsed and ask why the steel structure was disposed of so quickly.
and you have no intuitive understanding of the scenario
total retardo take. every other burning skyscraper kept standing, after burning for days. i don't even know how one calls this idiotic fallacy
either jeets and south americans are better builders than mutts in the finance center of the world, or something fishy went down
no evidence against jews
lots of indicators though, so i'll blame them
simple as
I've heard this argument my whole life but nothing to support it.
he can't even watch the footage, take the timing and look up how tall the towers were
must be a hard life being so stupid. no wonder you believe what your ZOG government tells you
The bottom half of the building was scooped out on one side. Then it sat while fires built for hours. Once the structure starts to fail at the bottom, the network effect of the structure fails and the building starts to fall. Again, skyscrapers are extremely heavy and will fall straight down if the bottom floors are weakened. The picture here was taken from the side and only shows part of the damage done to the side facing the twin towers. The damage was extensive and was most severe on lower floors. After the fire built from 10 am to 5 pm the structure eventually weakened. Unless it's very thin, a 47 story building isn't going to topple sideways. It will fall straight down.
Almost 24 yrs ago...
Let it go....
even the fucking owner told us they "pulled it"
The controlled demolition hypothesis isn't that far fetched, but it opens the door to all sorts of stupid shit like holograms and nukes. These "theories" were rampant in the few years right after. I always thought they were put out there to discredit anyone who questioned the official story.
Listen to yourself, your “facts” about bottom scooped out are simply fantastical. NIST are simply unable to demonstrate why the building collapsed yet you have the answer? Seems legit, lol
People forget the presence of nano thermite. The nuclear thing is just to muddy the waters of legitimate unanswered questions.
To be fair the buildings were specifically designed to withstand a strike by a plane of the dimensions that hit the towers.
What? This isn't true at all lol, who told you that
ASBESTOS
PULL IT
Interestingly the laws of physics, of quantum observation, causality, change in the absence of jews.
indeed if simply no jews were present to observe it, outcomes can differ wildly. Speculation abounds as to the reason, some say it is evidence that only jews perceive and therefore only jews are conscious, as the chosen of God. Others think that while real events happen, they, when observed by a jew, become "set in stone" or irreversible.
the speculation is not practically important, what is important, and dictates physical reality, is that non-jewish observers, (sensors, animals, computers) will observe different physical outcomes than a jew. This, coupled with the truth of known jewish reporting is proof that jews have souls and are God's chosen people.
NIST are simply unable to demonstrate why the building collapsed
They simulated it and gave an explanation to the satisfaction of structural engineers the world over. Very few people believe that fire cant structurally weaken a skyscraper enough to destroy it. And for good reason: they did zero math.
Fake and gay, like you.
why arent u mentioning a mass text was sent out to every jew in new york alerting them hours before not to go near wtc
google odigo 9/11
Hey stupid goy!
They had to cancel professional sports for a couple weeks because of Islamic terrorists
They messed with America's greatest past time
Doesn't that PISS YOU OFF!!!?
DO YOU WANT TOTAL WAR!?
That was my favorite.
That's pretty widely known, Anon.
9/11, like the bombings of houses in Moscow in September 1999, took place under a false flag. Guess who needed it and why? Remember what started right after that. The Middle East was ablaze
Tell us more about the Russian bombings (if you don't end up in jail for that, of course).
He was talking about the firefighting operation. He's not a demolitionist and didn't know their terminology. Why the fuck would he just blurt out "we blew up the building" on camera in a documentary. That's just retarded.
nist.gov
NIST says that the damage caused by debris would not have brought down the buildings, but when the fires burned uncontrolled on the lower floors for 7 hours and spread through the rest of the building, the damaged part contributed to its structural weakness.
An appeal to incredulity is not evidence of plants or demolition, sorry to say
Point was, the passports being presented as evidence was incredulous.
Read about "Ryazan sugar".
you know, he could rape a kid in front of you, and you would go "why would he do that?" and ignore the scene completely
your ignorance and disbelieve shields the evil deeds those kikes do. i hope you get the best golem award
I know about it, I read about it, but I want to know your take on the matter.
9/11 was planned before 911. FEMA had condoned off the area the night before.
300mph is really fast to destroy steel beams
be me
factory worker who was on production line making steel and aluminum car wheels for 21 years
steel wheels had to be super heated over time in ceramic furnace to even slightly bend
aluminum wheels were put in standard oven and ready made after 20 minutes.
You don’t understand how steel works. It is physically impossible for fire to cut steel. Superheated thermal charges or could cut steel. But a standard 2-hour fire wouldn’t even come close to that, jet fuel ignited or not. Steel buildings do not collapse. It’s impossible with a steel core without charges and demo. The plane being there was a side show and that’s why I think it’s cgi
25 years after the fact, the truth is officially given permission
No one cares anymore
The people who were right already knew, the people who were wrong are too dumb to be worth dealing with
This is the ultimate fate of all "truth" movements-- a generation too late to matter
The dumb ones will never extrapolate that trend to the present and future, but instead will continue to pooh-pooh "conspiracy theorists"
Same as it ever was
Total normie death come quickly
Thanks
Not a chance. Jet airplanes are made framed out of peach wood and wrapped with aluminum. They literally would smash into and then bounce off the side of the buildings.
that is exactly what happens you baboon
I've already talked about this. I believe that this is the work of the FSB. Zhirinovsky once let it slip on television.
If you were to say on camera, "I love thick white cream sauce," I would know for a fact that you're saying you love to guzzle cum because you really want the world to know.
The fact you don’t know that speaks volumes about you position. Go do some research, leave this one to the adults.
RIP Trevor
No the didnt, it got binned, then “redone” but not released. As I said sit this one out, this one’s not for the low IQ or ideologically captured.
It is physically impossible for fire to cut steel.
How about the weight of several stories of a building on weakened, hot steel? That might work
If you're a factory worker it's concerning you dont understand how metal gets soft and pliable when hot, and then once it's not vertical it would buckle
i don't even know how to respond to your gay fanfiction
It doesn't have to cut it, just soften it enough to lose structural integrity.
But hey, continue being a retard spouting blatantly stupid shit. It's your purpose in life. Own it.
impossible for fire to cut steel
thermate (not thermite)
IQ...?
Dude, you have no evidence. You just keep saying nuh-uh to the explanations and then inserting your own. That's flat earth tier. There's no reason to humor the idea of it being a controlled demolition when you have zero evidence of explosives of any kind. You point at an art project from months prior and insist this is what you were talking about. That's high IQ?
no, architects don't calculate for possible fires in the building
why would they even do that?
i would call you a shill, but i know there are stupid people out there
Okay, so you don't even know what thermite looks like. Good talk
For fucks sake shut up we all know it was Israel.
Remember the inane obviously bullshit conspiracy theories are glowies trying to make us all look crazy so when shit like pizza gate breaks they can pretend it was deboonked and memory hole it.
The plan for fires was to insulate the steel enough to where the fire department could arrive on time and get everyone out/put it out. Nobody thinks a building cant collapse due to fire. Otherwise why would you evacuate it? Why would you insulate the beams knowing that the insulation will soon burn away, and the steel's strong enough on its own?
You clearly know nothing about what you're trying to talk about.
well, if you are right, americans can't build for shit
imagine being beaten by tofu dregg and jeets
glowniggers
go break your faggoty fucking neck, for real homo, i would beat your ass for this stupid shit, NPC normalfags like you need to be vaxxed and killed off, you are literally cattle polluting the earth, god, Bill Gates is right
As I said you need to sit this one out, partly due to your incoherent ranting, partly ignorance on the topic but mostly because you will always believe what fits “your” ideologically captured world view. The government would never hurt its own civilians directly or by proxy? Yes they would look at Northwoods and other egregious ideas suggested and actioned. That you can’t possibly conceive that people can be unpleasant beyond your reasoning doesn’t mean they don’t exist. Israel has a long record of manipulating the US to its own ends and this has their fingerprints all over it. Look up the Art Student project in the FBI records or the Israeli duo arrested in the Mexican Congress building armed and carrying explosives whilst masquerading as Pakistani nationals one month post 9/11.
Any highrise building under a sustained, uncontrolled multi-floor fire will collapse. Any of them. It's a scenario you can't really build for because it makes the building way too expensive when you can typically expect to not be hit by planes
You know how much more expensive the one world trade center was? They built it specifically for being immune to this kind of attack again. Chemical filters on ventilation, an entire side of the building isnt made of real glass, and most of the beams are built to be redundant.
And even THEN, it relies on a sprinkler system and fireproofing to keep it cool enough to not collapse. If you took the water and started a multifloor fire there is STILL a risk of collapse for a building literally designed to be the toughest skyscraper in the world.
"Sit this one out" LMAO you're on fucking Anon Babble talking to schizos. Nobody is begging for an audience with you
You’re spreading misinformation about steel buildings collapsing. Sit this one out.
Asks for the reason you believe things without evidence
Threat to my life instead
Like clockwork
Any highrise building under a sustained, uncontrolled multi-floor fire will collapse
and of the hundreds that burned, only three did collapse
all in the same city, the same day and almost the same name, for only a few hours
no other burning skyscraper collapsed, not before and not after
you are either very stupid, or very shilly
QRD on cgi planes?
How else am I supposed to respond to the claim that Larry Silverstein, whom I have no doubt was in on the plot, confessed on camera to using controlled demolition to intentionally destroy WTC 7?
A steel building collapsed and you still have no evidence it was anything but that plane that caused the damage. Sorry that bothers you so much
I got an art project!
That you don't know they had explosives with. You have a box that you matched up with an electrical component not used for explosives.
I saw thermite/variants!
You saw sparks, of which you dont know the origin of
I saw jooz!
Correct, now show they had bombs
memory hole it
NO
so many good people died that day,
so many innocent lives were lost,
they deserve to be remembered and avenged
Show me another skyscraper that's collapsed due to fire.
Sit this out, I see your only way to debate is mischaracterising my points. Nano thermite was found, not seen. “A steel buildings collapsed” you need to add that the only steel building to collapse due to fire ever recorded (apart from one in Iran, allegedly).
and while we're at it, we'll expand the security state and "indefinitely suspend" your civil liberties instead of just racially profiling sandniggers!
oh boy Mr Shekelberg, I can't wait to be constantly surveilled and anally probed by government mystery-meat every time I use an airport!
flown remotely
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All buildings like that are designed to collapse inwards. In the even that a building in NYC collapses you don't want it playing dominoes.
really fumbles the pebbles
If you read my previous post, a steel core could support the weight of 4 wtc towers on top of it. That’s how fucking strong steel is. Let’s say for the sake of argument that jet fuel burns hot enough to bend steel (it doesn’t), that 2-3 floors would not be enough force to implode the rest of the building. 4,000 engineers agree with me and not you
Read this post
jew did something
has to think about gay goyim cum slurping
cut the porn out chaim
it’s cool that my government likes to lie to my face about physics while they steal my money
I will always believe that the Western Intelligence community knew the attacks were coming and let them happen. Then they decided to clear out WTC 7 because they had an excuse to. They destroyed FBI and SEC offices, and got the WTC owner more insurance money.
Why do we still pretend christians dont kill animals to absolve their sins? Its in your own bible. Did you even read it or do i need to quote verses to you?
Christians don’t sacrifice animals you kike.
Can't amateurs simulate this with software nowadays? Rig up some steel beams and crash something to spec into it in your physics simulation. Processors are 100x faster than those that existed in 2001
It’s been done.
the aluminum is also less dense because it's meant to create lift
I don't doubt the plane smashing the building to weakness, but the fire causing a severing in both buildings is ridiculous
Operation northwoods was a cia plan to fake Cuban operatives hijacking civilian airliners and flying them into buildings as a pretext for war with cuba
It doesn’t have to be a hologram. You can cgi live television
That is a rational position to take about the false flags that precede American military intervention until you real their actual recorded thought processes in declassified documents and realize they are perfectly willing and able to invent and stage these things entirely
this is the dumbest shit I've ever read. what a kike
Jet fuel can melt gold bars!
the steel and sheetrock rubble burned for 3 months
as is the case with ICQ, the other well-known Israeli instant messaging application.
I've been using compromised software since I was a child... RMS, why didn't you save me?
Surely, that was the last time anything like that happened or will happen.
No fucking chance. Imagine you’re the CIA. You’re going to trust these cave-dwelling cousin fuckers to pull off an incredibly complicated attack? No way you’re betting your chips on them.
Kek!
They're not all bad
fireproof building
burns
Kind of amazing there's only one steel framed structure known of that has collapsed due to fire. Then you add on top that it managed to collapse entirely in its own footprint of its own volition
They 100% planned it. Was it compartmentalized? Yes. But you already knew that you stupid glow nigger rat.
You are OUT of your ELEMENT, dude
Nobody 'planned' it, retard. They knew about it. They didn't need to collapse shit because the planes hitting the WTCs was already way more than enough excuse for them to do what they did. It's also not really anything unique:
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That's how tall buildings pancake. If enough parts of of its structure are compromised, that drags down the rest of the structure down and the kinetic force from the upper floors that crashes with the lower floors brings the whole building down. It's basic physics.
I also gave a video on the North Tower collapsing and you can see the sides bending and collapsing from the top crystal clear
but muh pancake
Lol shills get so mad
i have seen all the evidence, and fucking lodge faggot niggers like you think you can just bully me into believing your gay ass jewish lies, fuck you queer, i'd pay to watch you be burned alive like the innocent people in the towers did
Supports buckle
Not one is shown coming out the side of the building
Where did it buckle? Do you faggots even speak english? If it buckled, it should deform outwardly, right?
Which part of the bible?
Erm, uh, jesus said the old testament was good so there!
Building 7 was filled with secret service and cia personal, most likely constitutional loyalists as well as the special agent in charge of security for the UN building in nyc. Its a prime target in a coup. Keep throwing out retard this and that though, really lends credibility to you argument.
ITT Nafri scums and other sandniggers
OK chaim.
Show another example of a building sucking up 4500mj of energy
building 7 had a retarded cantilever design that made it particularly vulnerable to structural failure
But it doesn't topple over to one side or the other. It collapses right down onto itself very neatly. Why would a cantilever failure cause that?
I watched the news all day on Sep 11th and after the twin towers fell but before the other build collapses, they were talking about buildings that might need to be demolished for safety reasons for hours beforehand. I didn't think about this for decades until people kept saying that buildings weren't demolished. I'm almost certain there were demolitions announced and carried out on the da or in the days after.
It will be released alongside the vax clinical trial data, epstein logs, and results of the upcoming federal reserve audit.
2 moar centuries
own footprint?
Are you niggers ever going to realize this is wrong or will you cling to it forever?
24 YEARS LATER...
Every 9/11 thread is still swarming with shills.
That should be its own topic.
Are Freemasons/Jews that pervasive on Anon Babble?
Was it compartmentalized? Yes. But you already knew that you stupid glow nigger rat.
Maybe he really doesn't know.
They never told him and he's too dumb to figure it out on his own.
IIRC, they filter glownigger recruits to select for people whose religion is blind patriotism.
They have lost the plot, now race against time lest the goyim awakend and devour them before they get sky net online.
Good thing jews got the ODIGO WARNINGS which told them to stay home on 9/11
Possible. The goodest of goyim are truly midwits or pehaps just unintitated, twas Hathor Pentalpha ur lodge.
They looked just like Building 7 before it collapsed
Plasco sure did after it collapsed
Have you listened to the testimony of Barry Jennings the head of security at Tower 7 who said there were bombs in the building before he was killed?
WTC7 caught fire and received debris damage. It did not fall, rather the government ordered its demolition, fearing that it could have an uncontrolled collapse.
Thank you for the clarification rabbi from canada.
said there were bombs
he heard loud noises. they could be "bombs" or could be explosions and debris falling. But typical controlled demos dont set off bombs hrs before demolition...
Grenfel tower in London burned for days and never collapsed
So?
this building collapsed afer burning for 90 minutes
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Was grenfel tower hit by a 300,000 lbs plane?
This thread is about wtc 7 you absolute retard
That's nice. Is this not your post?
As for building 7 i replied to that as well. Turns out taller buildings have different engineering requirements and processes. It's almost like a 60+ story building is more likely to "fall" than a 1 story home, by Anon Babble standards
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