Ukraine War

40 strategic bombers destroyed

TU-95: manufactured from 1952-1993 (kek)

consists of 70% of the Russian strategic bomber airfleet

severely handicaps Russia's ability to launch cruise missiles and glide bombs on Ukraine positions

WHY SO QUIET, you fucking chuds? Are you upset that your "trad" Russia just got its asshole blown out by superior Ukraine capabilities? Russia has a million dead and wounded from this war. It's economy is completely fucked. Trump has already turned on Putin. Russia will never recover from this war, and all you chuds can do is sit on your cuck chair and cry.

strategic bombers destroyed
You got a source for this claim. I don't trust the Ukike government ever.

>consists of 70% of the Russian strategic bomber airfleet

uhh yeah according to my knowledge russia had/has 130+ strategic bombers so 40 of 130 does not equal 70% lol
I'm going to laugh when ukraine is getting bombed by the same planes they claim to have destroyed.

Most of those 130 bombers are inoperable from overuse/lack of working parts.

why so quiet

read the catalog you fucking retard

Surely this will help ukranny regain crimea

See you in the next few days when you are screaming and crying again about Russia bombing Ukraine. You niggers have gone through the "Russia has been destroyed!!!" to "Ukraine needs another $100 billion in aid to stop Russia!!!"

Also you pro-Ukraine bot farms will be ramping back up again when Russia starts bombing

Russia will never recover from this war

neither will ukraine

nukes are fake

the 1970 planes were props

they baited the drones

COINTELPRO PSYOP

oh yeah sure totally believable anon, you're the oracle of russian bombers eh? That sounds an awful lot like ukranian cope.

Just so you niggers know nearly every thread in the catalog about this is pro-Ukraine

Ukraine does something

They still can't push Russia out of its own borders. Nice work, Ukraine, you did something that doesn't affect the war at all.

We still use a lot of planes from the 50's-90's. The C-130 for example.

Are you retarded or just brown? No shit destroying pidorussian air force will help them militarily lmao

Same with the B-1 and B-52, though we'll see if the B-21 ever meets the light of day.

If you look pretty much all the destroyed aircraft were not operational. Russia doesn't use these aircraft for frontline operations or they would be west of the urals.

The true number is probably much less, still a huge victory for the Jew Zelensky and a real embarrassment for the useless Russian Mongols.

I don't like Europe or Russia, but I don't want to see you faggots blow each other up despite my hatred for both you subhuman retards. Too late for that though, EU cokeheads just couldn't stop nudging that retarded bearmonke.

I literally hope every non American dies. All of them.

Why the fuck should I care who is winning or losing? Why do you care?

If they work why does Russia still not have air superiority?

NAFO is uppity

no one fucking cares about this shitshow Russia sucks and Ukraine sucks

I don't care, fuck Russia and Ukraine. I hope they kill each other

haha you think blowing up museum pieces is a victory? ukies never fail to give a good laugh

40

More like 4 kek

lmao
Anon Babbleringe

How is blowing up 40 nuclear capable bombers from the 1950s a win? You do realize they put nukes on missiles now right?

10 billion worth of equipment just gone

while russia is in complete ecenomic meltdown

you niggas are going to starve, that is if they don't draft you and send you to the grinder before that. Millions of russians are going to die now.

I tend to be a pro-Russia /chug/ guy, but that Ukrainian op was brilliant and brutal.

I feel exactly the same goddamn way. The problem is that you goddamn worthless newfag trash make no goddamn effort to even remotely counter the goddamn Ukraine spam

I know you do not care and that is why I call you a goddamn worthless nigger

Russia's nuclear missiles dont work

It's a good thing too.

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air superiority would me Russian planes would be relatively unmolested in Ukrainian airspace. they rarely even enter Ukrainian airspace anymore.

Why are Russians dilating over this?
They are old onions jewnion planes. They aren't even going to be used anymore

muh nuclear missiles

What dumb fuck is going to put nukes on a prop plane

quoting nexta or any jew osint sight from twitter makes this extremely herbable first it was 4 then 13 then 40 now their entire fleet, and they're still getting hit by Russia while shills are shitting up the catalogue constantly about this, the cognitive dissonance is something only someone on a payroll is capable of.

The war was conducted without the use of massive air power by the Russians for the simple reason that they didn't want an air war over Ukraine. It has been Russia that has dictated the intensity of the war from the beginning, they're the ones who wanted the meat grinder war, it was never in Ukraines interest. It would have been far better for ukraine to have fought a low manpower high tech war using air power provided by the west.
The whole war is bullshit, just ethnic cleansing for Jews.

they're the ones who wanted the meat grinder war

No they didn't. Nobody wants to fight 3+ years of slow moving trench warfare.

No we don't. We use upgraded, updated, and rebuilt planes dedigned in the 50s-60s. Russia on the other hand, uses planes literally built in the 50s-60s without upgrades, updates, or even structural and skin refurbishment when they meet critical lifetime replacement intervals. A HYUGE difference.

No they didn't. Nobody wants to fight 3+ years of slow moving trench warfare.

Why only use a fraction of your armed forces then?

they have nukes though. You think they will just willingly go down and be conquered without using their weapons?

Because only a fraction of any nation's armed forces are combat personnel

Because those 50s planes are what's launching cruise missiles into Ukraine from Russia, genius.

Wat. They do it every day. You think shooting parked planes means they don't? You think glide bombs are launched from Russia?

One video of one bomber being hit. The other drone seems to have missed and hit the ground underneath the bomber. The third plane was an An-22. Both bombers had tires on their wings and were not active aircraft. Somehow this equals 70% of Russia's strategic bomber forces. I thought Trump was supposed to get this kind of retardation under control.

No, they trued, and got their shit blown out of the sky. They CANNOT into air superiority, or they would've already. Cope all you shit colored ass wants.

You think they will just willingly go down and be conquered without using their weapons?

Our trannies and zoomer military will fight them to the death.

That's so stupid. It takes weeks to mobilize reserves. Russia could field and supply an army alone of millions. They have 2 million in reserve right now without even raising new ones.

What exactly do you mean by a fraction of? They've thrown literally everything they have at Ukraine for the last three years. They would try more, but, they're unable to equip, support, or afford it. Hence NK and Iran having to give Russia troops, money, and munitions.

No, they trued, and got their shit blown out of the sky. They CANNOT into air superiority, or they would've already.

Sort of. It's true that western air defenses are good at preventing the enemy from establishing air superiority. But Ukraine also has zero control over their own air space. It's not like NATO/Ukraine have air superiority either, which makes this a ground war that Russia will win through attrition.

Take your meds

Weren't you the same faggots that said Russia would be out of bullets at the end of Summer 2023?

Zero damage from jewish terrorists in Russia

Would you expect Russia to tell the truth? They are about as trustworthy as Ukraine/NATO.

40

It's like 8 and half of that is partial damage. Enjoy being fire bombed to death in retaliation though lol.

They've been saying this shit since the first months when 1st Guards and VDV were apparently all killed somewhere and then resurrected later.

But Ukraine also has zero control over their own air space.

Funny how Russian planes cannot, and will not fly into Ukrainian air space, huh?
Weren't you the same shit colored faggot saying Kiev in 72 hours, Ukraine is finished Pussia STRONK!!!!!?

remove the gloves )))))))))))))))))))

Russia's really doing it tough, their economy only grew at 4.4% during those years of war, they still have low debt to gdp at 16 fucking percent. They produce all their own equipment for penny's on the dollar compared to the west, we're just lucky that they're run by hook nosed Kikes as well.

Ukrainian media reports 40 bombers

So 4 bombers were destroyed?

Proof on your figures?

Based retards. Substantial slavnigger deaths are all but guaranteed in the inevitable retaliation. Keep culling and make room for your new jewish settlers lmao

You're joking right? Lets give Ukraine the best possible imaginable win 40 tu 95s. How many are used monthly for Ukraine bombing runs? Spoiler its zero. How many exist? Spoiler its hundreds. At best you can argue about 10 iskanders a month are launched from a tu. Every single Russian bombardment propaganda video is from a su or a derivative.

Hell even if you blew up 300 tu 95s I doubt that's the limitation in delivery it's the bombs.

15 seconds on google.

The Tu-95 looks like it could get hit by a drone and you’d just bolt on some new stainless steel sheet metal and swap an engine and it could go back in the air.

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Then post them...

Weren't you the same shit colored faggot saying Kiev in 72 hours

For the record, no. I'm pretty impartial on this conflict, but I am embarrassed by how stupid the U.S. media portrayal of this war has been. We are supposed to be better than this. My actual prediction was this war would play out like Chechnya. Russia would be prepared for the long-haul and NATO wouldn't be capable of winning a protracted ground war that could last up to 10 years. Russia wasn't flying air sorties in Chechnya either. They just ground their enemies down, slowly over time. Which is what will happen here. The only thing NATO is accomplishing is wasting resources and lives. Continue to shill away though. That's your job and you suck at it.

Say please cunt.

How many are used monthly for Ukraine bombing runs?

At least 10, from one attack alone.... are you a kike? You sure argue like one.

Russia's government debt to GDP ratio was at 16.4% in December 2024. This ratio is projected to reach 19.0% by the end of 2025, according to Trading Economics. In the long term, the ratio is expected to trend around 20.0% in 2026 and 21.0% in 2027.

Suck my fat White superior cock, you shit colored inbred mutant.
Ah, yes....the neutral observer. lol lmao ewen.

Someone sounds Yiddish, go on tell me how many tu-95s are left? TKD kikes aren't people my guy don't try to deflect. Yiddasaurus fag.

Not a source, and shit colored inferior.

About 330 of the 4300 Russian nukes are for bomber/fighter deployment.

This will surely also cause 1M new hohol conscripts to appear out of thin air to gain back lost territory. Any moment now.

Suck my fat White superior cock, you shit colored inbred mutant.

The chances of you having a succulent white cock with that flag are not worthy of a wager you nigger.

That's pretty much true of all planes, but moreso with older airplanes from the 50's. The B52 fits this mold as well. Unless there is significant damage to the bulkhead or stringers of the aircraft's structure, you can just double up the sheet metal, pound in some rivets and you are airworthy again. That's why these things are still in the air. They are extremely survivable.

on tell me how many tu-95s are left?

How would I know? The real question is how many are combat capable, how many got taken out by this attack, and what is Russia's ability to fix them and how.long will it take. Also, post DNA, kike.

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Cope, and seethe you shit colored mutant.

You think glide bombs are launched from Russia?

That's exactly where they are launched from, you retarded nigger. Hence the glide aspect.

russia practically never uses air support for it's ground troop meat waves anyway.

so realistically this is not going to have any impact on the frontlines.

yes russia looks incompetent and retarded for letting this happen but this was already known

But you just said you knew how many 95s are used in Ukraine and how many got taken out? Kill all Jew nigger faggots btw UwU. So what's your argument, do you think Russian bombardment will increase or decrease?

lol

Fire weakens the structural members of plane - that's not even counting pressure wve and shrapnel damage.

You are so fucking stupid it's unreal. Tu planes are used for iskanders. Are you a destiny enjoyer? It would make sense why you're so fucking retarded, or should I say regarded?

Junior calm down

Just like most of Russia's army.

oinkrainians report 40 bombers destroyed

so it's actually more like 4 destroyed and 4 damaged

I'm 120 years old and I'm hella mad. Go on...

Ah, yes....the neutral observer

Then tell me what is the present NATO strategy and why will it work when it wasn't worked for the last three years? I'm open to other ideas that aren't just baseless shilling. But it seems to me that NATO strategy was flawed from the start. Without resorting to histrionics, tell me what NATO's present strategy is and what it will achieve in Ukraine?

But you just said you knew how many 95s are used in Ukraine

Yeah, at least 10 in one attack. Stop trying to argue like a kike, you are far too stupid to do so.

I didn't say anything about Tu-'s, you retarded nigger. I said I agree with the other poster that you are a retarded nigger and don't know what aerial superiority or aerial supremacy is.

G0Y id

Shut up Junior, Russia lost.

So if 40 are destroyed best case scenario per Ukraine that will change that number how? I'll wait.

And some Nooclear submarines too OP, dont forget them =)

Trusting Ukrainian and globohomo tranny claims

When theyre existentially desperate

It was a good op for sure but let’s see what the Russian response is over the next couple of days. You’re a total tranny if you think Russia’s capabilities have been seriously compromised

I never denied you being a retarded nigger like. So we agree.

Why have we been spending trillions to defend from this? Our defense budget could have mogged them by spending 10% of what we do.

Geez Junior is so butthurt.

frfr no cap Europa will have victory celebrations tomorrow.

wasn't worked

kek. So assblasted yourshit English gives away you VPN noooooooootral observing.

Jesus. Are we back to the steel can be melted by jet fuel/WTC argument again? And there really weren't significant fires behind the initial explosions. Fuck, if this is the best thing achieved, the attacks were a failure. The structural members weren't weakened by fire from a fuel whose flash point is 124 degrees F.

How long after posting this did he get bombed?

Cope, retarded nigger. No matter where you're pretending or not.

mfw russian nukes are so poorly built that one of these attacks will probably set them off

So no. You can't tell my why NATO's present strategy will win a protracted conflict.

It will be 40 less TU-95s used to attack them. Obviously.

ruh roh, ivan

What am I coping about? Is Putler surrendering tomorrow? Ho Lee Sheet, Sum Ting Wong, Ukra Won.

surely this will alter the course of the war and now Ukraine wins

lol you trannies are insufferable. It’ll be interesting to see the kvetching when the inevitable retaliation comes

damn, Russia lost, NAFObros we won the war

Rest in peace, brave Bears.
You served long and honourably. You will never be forgotten.
No later than tomorrow you will be avenged.

Ukraine just did more for world peace than NATO has done in 20 years
everybody say thank you Zelenskyy

Rest in peace, brave Bears

They probably never saw action once you stupid Zigger lmao, RIPiss, no replacements, no refunds, ever.

Are we back to the steel can be melted by jet fuel/WTC argument again?

No, but we're at the stage that vatnig deny fire weakens steel through annealing causing the crystalline microstructure to change, thus changing the designed structural strength of say steel when calculated and designed.

lol oh the butthurt is strong with this one.

Are the 40 strategic bombers destroyed in the room with us now?

Kiev in 72 hours

that was your faggot, glownigger
can't even keep your shit straight, embarrassing

lol oh the butthurt is strong with this one.

Lol really? How many NATO troops died in this war vs. Zigger shits?

Not anymore they are not.

This is the headquarters of operations not a fucking submarine. Ukies are so dumb.

Well, no, anon. They were destroyed.
The malding, coping and seething is, though.

Because Russia hasn't retaliated yet.
Only when they do can I point and say "Look it's not a marvel movie, war is brutal"
If I say it now someone might make the mistake of thinking I in any way support any of this especially not the mass laundering of money and mass murder of a population.

blown the fuck out

All you're trying to do is deflect away from 40 TU-95s getting blown up to what is the HATOs grand plan!!!!!!? Go try your low IQ deflection techniques in another thread.
You mean potentially 40 less TU-95s for Russia's nimbah one strategy of CM mass attacks won't change anything? Explain how.

do you have a source?

according to my made up information

Seriously, how can people be this blatantly retarded?

That was all ziggers, shitskins (you), and Kremlin media for the first two days until they got btfo and started claiming they never said it.

All you're trying to do is deflect away from 40 TU-95s getting blown up

How is blowing up 40 Tu-95s going to help Ukraine win this war?

Nigger, you aren't annealing steel with jet fuel fires that last a few minutes.

Brown subhumans are in full denial.
Copelord just oinked yesterday that drone attacks did nothing, just hours before it.

why haven't you russian faggots killed putin yet?
don't you realize for all the good he has done his persistence will take it all way and throw it down the shitter for you? You will have revolution again, you will have 1990s again, you will be miserable and russia will be no more.....KILL THAT NIGGA NOW AND BE DONE WITH THIS DUMB SHIT!

Satellite imagery of Russia’s Belaya Airbase shows 3 Tu-95MS strategic bombers destroyed, 1 Tu-22M3 destroyed, and 1 Tu-95MS possibly damaged as a result of the Ukrainian FPV drone attack

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Is that it? They got 5 bears?

Look. The Iraq war made sense to me. We were fighting for oil. Cool. I get that. Trump helped this war in Ukraine make sense. We are fighting for strategic mineral reserves. I can get on board with that. America can get on board with that. Now tell me how damaging a few Tu-95s helps America secure our new mineral reserves in the Ukraine. I'm waiting.

blown out by superior Ukraine capabilities?

Ukrainians do not even operate the NATO missile systems. NATO personnel does. Russia should treat this as an act of war by NATO and start nuking.

Why not on front to solidify sucksess svinka?

how does Ukraine destroying r*ssian military assets help Ukraine win the war

lmao chud brainrot is real

YOU LOST HAHAHAHAHAHA

Im sure destroying these weapons that aren't even being used in this war will surely turn the tide in their favor.

The best part is that the USians were kept out of the loop completely; they did not even have the smallest part in this operation.
Quite frankly, we are quickly reaching the point of American irrelevance in this conflict. After the communications black-out they inflicted on Ukraine, proving themselves to be completely unreliable (and cowardly) partners, we have seen Ukraine, and the world, divest greatly from American influence.

Nigger they launch bombing sorties with TU-95s and TU-22s all the fucking time, what are you even talking about?

Answer the question. We already have air superiority. The main fighting is near the front lines. Putin still has his strategic missile force mostly in place, which doesn't really matter BECAUSE THIS IS MOSTLY A FUCKING GROUND WAR. Now tell me why this actually matters.

I don't think anyone on Anon Babble really cares about Russia anymore. They've been exposed as a shit country that was just larping as being traditional and conservative for a while during which at the same time USA had fucking Obama, so it made him look good in comparison, and then again with Biden briefly before the war started. But now he looks just like another cuck fag politician. Who gives a fuck.

Not picking sides anymore.

Quite frankly, we are quickly reaching the point of American irrelevance in this conflict

If only this were actually true.

You must care an awful lot if you're still spamming the catalog this late on a Sunday

Yeah this lol. It's like they are forcing civilians to learn 5th gen warfare or something. Form an opinion too early and the shills for both sides go after you with BS.

40 strategic bombers destroyed

Only 4 have been confirmed so far, 2 of which were not even operational and just used for parts.

TU-95: manufactured from 1952-1993 (kek)

severely handicaps Russia's ability to launch cruise missiles and glide bombs on Ukraine positions

Old stuff that's only being used to harrass Alaska. Nobody is flying a fucking 60 year old propeller plane on the front lines of any war.
If you want to handcap Russia you need to target the TU-160, MIG-31, SU-34, SU-35 and SU-57 fleets as well as their drone factories.

This whole ordeal is a fucking nothing burger that only ruined any possibility of peace for the near future.

Oh well, since you said it, it mustn't not be true.

I think Ukraine is right in this war as Russia is the aggressor, but the fact that the online pro-ukraine discourse systematically underestimates russian readiness and overvalues these (admittedly impressive) sabotage operations is very uncomfortable considering all the objetive metrics of the war. Gaslighting yourself into a stronger posisition like that does you no good.

because as mentioned in the OP, little chuddie, r*ssia was using these bombers to launch attacks on Ukraine positions. they can't do that anymore.

meh, most damage to ukrainian lines are being done by SU-'s lobbing FABs.

RT
Kiev has been allowed to join a NATO-standard coordination network which connects together Western-made military hardware, Ukrainian Deputy Defense Minister Katerina Chernohorenko has announced. The system, in particular, is compatible with F-16s and Mirage 2000 fighter jets.

On Saturday, Chernohorenko revealed that Ukraine had signed a license agreement to begin using the Command and Control Center System Interface (CSI), a non-commercial digital platform employed by most NATO member states for air and missile coordination and improved interoperability.

The official pointed out that the system operates through NATO’s Link-16 data protocol – which she referred to as “military Wi-Fi.” She added that the protocol facilitates coordination between fighter jets such as US-made F-16s and French-made Mirage 2000s, as well as air defense systems like the Patriot, all of which have been supplied to Ukraine as military aid.

erm, this was a Ukraine op against Russia, not the other way around

only 4 have been confirmed

believing r*ssia lies

kek stay delusional vpnigger

. . . and the cruise missiles hit cities, power infrastructure, staging areas and children's hospitals.

Cope

i believe jew lies instead

complete ecenomic meltdown

The irony of this post from a German flag.

I know he's probably on Rammstein Airforce Base but still.

Thank you, General Huemonke. It will be noted.

The problem is that one of the main angles of Russian propaganda is "Ukraine has no chance, it's hopeless, therefore aid to Ukraine is pointless and you should just withdraw and let us continue expanding until we reach the Oder-Neiße line." That's one of the main ways they try to undermine support for Ukraine, and this propaganda is countered by pointing out Ukraine's victories and Russia's losses.

We're not NATO strategic planners. They are not underestimating Russia. This is for the benefit of the average layman.

Except they really weren't and in the larger context, infantry support means more to the front lines. Who gives a fuck if Russia lobs a Kaliber at Kiev? Mortars at the front are more effective and this does nothing to stop that. It also does nothing to disrupt supply lines. At most it's a psychological victory and Putin doesn't really care about shit like that anyway.

Why don't we build them like that anymore?

Ukraine is entirely dependent on western arms and funding or put in a different way they get money and weapons based on how many videos they put out. Basically the first country to fight a war that gets paid for by uploading youtube videos or tik toks.

I imagine standoffs from a plane are a lot more reliable than silo shit.

long range strategic bombers

Yeah, these are not necessary for bombing their nextdoor neighbour. Fighter jets are carrying the glide bombs and cruise missiles and they don't even need to leave Russian territory to launch them.

It's even questionable what use these strategic bombers had. Which is probably why they were all clustered in an remote airbase east of Siberia. They're out of date. ICBMs and nuclear submarine replaced them long ago.

It's a good morale boost for Ukrainians and demoralization of Russians. But it's not a clear strategic or tactical victory for Ukraine.

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Yes yes well done Ukraine, well done..

HOWEVER

is there any way to confirm what happened?
like if Russia had really lost a bunch of strategic bombers, would they just go on tv and be like "ah fuck. yeah. you got us. *wags finger* not bad ukies, not bad"
if they really got 40 this isn't a nothingburger
imagine the US losing 40 B2 stratofortress and spirit bombers on the fucking runway.
It would be a massive blow

Is this true? Is Germany and NATO really actually stepping up? I thought their military was all hollowed out. Or are things changing rapidly now. Are we actually gonna see a large European army again do you think? Interesting.

They are nuke carriers for one thing. And Russians have been shooting missiles from planes for a while now. Either way it's kinda retarded of you to not see the benefit of taking out any amount of enemy resources, anywhere.

Can someone translate this to English?

And the main detriment of western propaganda is that it spews bullshit so much that no one believes it anymore. This is one more example.

Omg! Putin's missile force is decimated! We're winning!

Next week Putin will launch an attack from Tu-95s and people will lose even more faith in the NATO's "counter" propaganda. You fucks would do a lot better if you would just tell the truth about the war instead of spinning this "Ghost of Kiev" bullshit. NATO propagandists are literally demoralizing their own side.

They are nuke carriers for one thing.

Is this a nuclear war?

It could be. But I can tell you are trying to troll.

America can get on board with that.

I don't think we can as a people. I mean maybe Dan Crenshaw can view war as a cynical means of acquiring resources and geopolitical influences, but the reason they always have false flag attacks and cover up any provocations and present false narratives in the media is that the average American cannot do that.

The average American views war as a moral issue that should only be undertaken for moral reasons, like revenge, or freedom. If there's not a compelling ideal at stake, Americans won't support war.

And indeed why should they? For the average America a war is a thing where their son dies, inflation goes up and even if we win at the end they don't see any of the profits.

sapping the enemy's will to fight
making the war too costly for the russians to continue and bring them to the table
look what happened with the houthis and our aircraft carrier
they were taking potshots at it all day and we lost 2 F-18s
Trump cut a deal where they leave us alone and we leave them alone and we got out of dodge leaving them and the israelis to settle with each other
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but these are Russia's equivalent to the B-2 stratofortress (no one has a B-2 Spirit equivalent)
I think if we had lost a bunch of $2B planes on the ground, over a war we don't need to be fighting, people might take a second look at the math

It's more likely the UK, who apparently still think they're a real country.

Well, London, to be more accurate.

I understand and pointing out these victories are cool and all, but when you couple it with the claim that you destroyed 70% of the russian strategic bomber fleet you kinda lose credibility. Same with the people who say that russia has lost 20k armored vehicles and have no more on their reserves, or that they lost a million soldiers in the first year of the war. I really hope that the military high command doesn’t believe in these things and, if they don’t, what’s the point? making up fake data to laugh at the russians? This won’t influence western support for ukraine, it just feels like a weird hedonistic social media hysteria. And this goes for both sides with tactical vatniggerism, of course, but I feel it hurts ukraine the most as it is the underdog.

Goebbels always felt that truth was best in propaganda. Shame the Allies didn't pick up that part of his toolkit.

I saw that but I thought Germany chickened out afterwards. Didn't some other politician come out and start a shitfit over this? So they are really going through with this and are not gonna let Ukraine lose?

Yeah but UK is refusing to ditch woke, so there is no hope from them. It will be ineffective help at best.

we are actively spamming the catalog so that means we’re the majority opinion

Cope, nato cultist

Holy shit, you actually believe this, don’t you?

Is this true?

No. Ukraine doesn't have the intelligence to do this alone (locate high value targets, get weapons across international borders into Russia). As the New York Times has repeatedly reported US intelligence officials are working closely with the Ukrainians planning such attacks inside Russia.

Trump appears to want peace, and when he gets nowhere he blames Putin or Zelensky. It's all appearances, the United States has been fully involved in this war since day one and has no intent to stop it until Russia stagnates and collapses. When the Russians are on their front foot strategic attacks like this and calls for a ceasefire increase. When Russia is on the backfoot Ukraine gets more weapons for the frontline and no more talk of ceasefires. The goal is a stalemate until Russia depletes itself entirely and then fragmentation becomes possible.

People say a lot of things, but absolutely no one on Earth has said they lost 70% of their strategic bomber fleet you fucking mongoloid.
The number Ukrainians are citing is 1/3rd, 33%.
But you're right, pulling numbers like that out your ass seriously diminishes YOUR credibility, retard-kun.

what’s the point?

Did I not JUST explain the whole point? The point is to counter the "it's pointless, Ukraine is doomed" Russian propaganda among the general public.

but absolutely no one on Earth has said they lost 70% of their strategic bomber fleet

It’s literally in the OP, moron.

If you think Germany is allowed to have it's own, independent, foreign policy then you're smoking good shit. Germany is officially still an enemy state, just like Japan.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Enemy_State_Clause

They are vassals of the United States. "Germany" also supplied Croatia with weapons during the Balkan wars. Except we all know it wasn't really Germany making these decisions. US and UK still have military bases all over their country and intelligence networks in their media and government. Germany is just an additional proxy layer.

Anon I...

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Nothing ever happens.

So is this the official goal? Why is USA being so retarded publicly then if this is their private aim? So you think definitely think Trump is just acting out some stage play to fool the Russians and the media retards?

Can I ask you how much longer do you think this war will continue, and do you think it will escalate further and even get to western boots on the ground?

They're only interested in influencing several dozen decision makers in Brussels, Washington and the Pentagon since their entire economy and war machine are dependent on those people. Blowing up strategic bombers contributes to the willingness for western governments to keep giving Ukraine weapons and money.

He said the TU-95 makes up 70% of the Russian strategic bomber fleet.
Lrn 2 reading comprehension

Germany is officially still an enemy state, just like Japan.

Holy fuck. I've always heard they are vassals states and it's literally still legally true.

So is the German support for the Ukraine actually American support routed through Germany? Why is USA doing this? To try and avoid "Vietnam syndrome". How badly does America want to avoid a boots on the ground war? Do you think US will make Germany send it troops against Russia?

>TU-95: manufactured from 1952-1993 (kek)

>consists of 70% of the Russian strategic bomber airfleet

In all fairness, we haven't built any B-52s since 1962. The B-1A program got cancelled after only four prototypes were built, the B-1B program only built 45 aircraft. We only built a dozen B-2's (lost at least one in a crash, maybe two, I forget), and the B-1's are half mothballed already.

Every time the KC-135 is mentioned on Anon Babble, someone has to point out that the tanker aircraft are older than their pilots.

gets asked a question he can’t answer

le typo and the cult’s mantra

Mark Milley is a shitskin Russian

Is that what you really think?

is there any way to confirm what happened?

Even if it was only 5 and not 40 I doubt Russia would talk about it, there may be advantages to letting NATO believe it was 40. Keep in mind that 5 is also a huge win for the hohols.

imagine the US losing 40 B2 stratofortress and spirit bombers on the fucking runway.

Imagine if Canada got into a conflict with the US and Canada managed to destroy or damage one third of the USAs B-2 bombers.

I'm pretty sure some NATO countries were involved including the USA.

Even if they're not being used, I believe it will impact negotiations when serious negotiations start. There is a dick swinging competition during negotiations and if Russia lost 40 strategic bombers, it means they have less dick to swing.

You know the USSR built something like 50 A-50 Mainstays, but only had six of them still capable of flying as of 2022? Ukraine killed one of those yesterday, shot down another one last year, and blew a hole in a third one's radar dome two years ago. I'm not sure if there was another one shot down or not, I've lost track at this point.

Point being, Le Mighty USSR (cower, NATOids!) has at most four, possibly only two, AWACS-equivalents left to fly. Here's hoping the remaining ones get blown up soon!

(Yeah I know this Pepe is supposed to be wearing Swedish colors, fuck it, they're the same as Ukraine's colors.)

Y u no like bodacious Himba titties, Anon? U gay?

The average American views war as a moral issue that should only be undertaken for moral reasons,

If you learned anything from the last 12 years of U.S. politics, it's that Americans are far more practical than you realize. They will literally elect an orange-skinned serial rapist con man if it means more money in their pockets. Democrats keep trying to make moral arguments and these keep falling flat. No one give a shit about morality anymore. They understand the game. Explain to them what an action actually means to them without bullshit and they will respond if it's actually in their best interests.

haha you think blowing up museum pieces is a victory?

The museum pieces still in active daily use by Russia?

everyone who disagrees with me is a Russian on a VPN

Three years of you cultists repeating that mantra, and like every other mantra of yours it has never once been true

There’s video evidence of 4 planes burning. You’d think they’d bother to record this event as it’s so easy to do.
For practical reasons you cannot trust anything more than what there’s evidence for.

what is consensus cracking

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We have experimental rockets blow up all the time you stupud faggot. Proves nothing

Do not care about your theater wars jew.

Trump is just acting out some stage play

Yes. You don't simply get elected US president and completely overturn foreign policy. The policies Trump is enacting are signed off by the Pentagon. More like, supported and proposed by the Pentagon. This is their strategy, not Trump's. Same as Biden, Obama, Bush, they're not deciding what to do with the most powerful military on earth on a complete whim. Generals advise and direct them. Nobody talks about a Henry Kissinger type today, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. They're just less visible.

do you think it will escalate further and even get to western boots on the ground?

No. The goal is to deplete Russian resources then support Russian separatist movements. This war could go on for 10 years.

If NATO truly wanted Ukraine to win the war all they had to do was increase military production in 2022. NATO has over ten times the GDP of Russia. They didn't because they're not trying to win the war in Ukraine, they're trying to break Russia. Doing just enough to keep a stalemate until Russia is broken.

Pretty funny desu
Ukraine have done fairly well since I started supporting them and it costs me nothing
Influencing world affairs from my wank den
With memetic good intentionns
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No banan for you

Suuure bro, while we're talking about delusional takes check this bad boy out

I think if we had lost a bunch of $2B planes on the ground, over a war we don't need to be fighting, people might take a second look at the math

We aren't Russia. Putin doesn't think like us. These are B-52 equivalents, but they haven't been replaced because they are good at what they do. Russia doesn't care about this shit. If anything, it steels their resolve because Ukraine was where Antonov was based and Putin has said rebuilding Ukraine's aviation industry was one of his biggest strategic goals. This is about long-term strategic industry and population for Putin, and if anything, it just makes Ukraine more important to Putin. You stop Putin by throwing more meat at a problem than he can throw. That's all you can do to stop him.

The structural members weren't weakened by fire from a fuel whose flash point is 124 degrees F.

Are you literally retarded?

Don't forget that they also blew up an A-50. Russians only had six left in 2022, they're down to at most four now. Those are being flown in every single missile-spam attack on Ukraine to protect Russia's precious few strategic bombers that are spamming the missiles.

us poor folk in the US like to unwind after a long day of not working with a couple of extra large dominos pizzas with double meat toppings submerged in garlic sauce followed by premium tobacco products the finest Zaza and Colombian cowboy coffee made in a gallon percolator

IF we are lucky they tac nuke ukraine in to submission if we unlucky we glow all together.

Nobody is flying a fucking 60 year old propeller plane on the front lines of any war.

Except when Russia did last month to launch cruise missiles into ukraine?

Putin will do absolutely nothing about this.

Russia will just switch to using its Tu-160 Soijacks! All 12 of them! Checkmate, comrade!

Every post you made sucks balls
How do I get in on this roubles for shit takes program
I just have to say two weeks and Putin pays my mortgage like all right wing Grift-indoors

Point being, Le Mighty USSR (cower, NATOids!) has at most four, possibly only two, AWACS-equivalents left to fly.

And yet Russia isn't retreating from Ukraine. It's almost like they don't care about losing a strategic air asset such as the Mainstay when they are engaged in primarily a ground war. Our Pentagon officers literally can't imagine warfare outside the context of a strategic air context because our defense contractors won't let them.

Mark "I committed treason by calling China" Milley?

40 million, please get it right.

old equipment definitely in use by both sides i saw a tank crewed by Ukr made in 1963. Didn't last long

It's almost like they don't care about losing a strategic air asset such as the Mainstay when they are engaged in primarily a ground war.

I guess you won't care about all those strategic bombers, either, comrade!

You seem to be in the know so I want to ask more. Have you heard about the Finnish border build up? What's going on there, and what about the Baltic deployments?

You don't simply get elected US president and completely overturn foreign policy.

It really seemed so though. What is the purpose of deceiving your own people into thinking you are retarded?

This is their strategy, not Trump's. Same as Biden, Obama, Bush, they're not deciding what to do with the most powerful military on earth on a complete whim

So this is just some strategy? Should I just stop paying attention to what Presidents say altogether? What is an actual good source on the latest military news of what the actual plan and goal is for our side, instead of just listening to this retarded back and forth and endless chickening out of the politicians.

he goal is to deplete Russian resources then support Russian separatist movements. This war could go on for 10 years.

Wouldn't Putin just eventually escalate instead of letting that happen?

If NATO truly wanted Ukraine to win the war all they had to do was increase military production in 2022. NATO has over ten times the GDP of Russia. They didn't because they're not trying to win the war in Ukraine, they're trying to break Russia. Doing just enough to keep a stalemate until Russia is broken.

Is this plan solid without USA, or is USA definitely still backing this but just playing some retarded public game by trying to pull out? Honestly shit is so confusing at the moment it's unreal.

They will literally elect an orange-skinned serial rapist con man

You're mixing talking points there, my dude. Conservatards are supposed to be the ones against any harm being brought on Based Trad Russia. Libtards are the ones who hate Orange Cheeto Rapist Man. Clearly you need to read your cheat-sheet guide to posting Russian talking points again.

according to Ukraine

Doesn't being a unpaid shill ever get tiring?

Are you literally retarded?

No, I actually work on airplanes and actually work with steel you fucking nigger. You anneal steel in a blast furnace, not some faggot diesel fire that lasts for like 3 minutes. These planes will mostly be back in service within a few weeks to a few months. The one that got hit in the wing-to-fuselage area might not be worth repairing, but that's it. The stupid fucking PowerPoint warriors in DC will spin this as some major victory because they are useless fucks that can't do anything other than spew bullshit so they keep getting paychecks for literally doing nothing. But this isn't some major victories. There are a thousand ways you could have hit Russia and actually hurt them, but I'm not going to do your job for you, you useless glownigger.

Apparently it was only 4. They didn't even launch 40 drones they launched "dozens" which I assume is 24. This war is fucking pathetic.

No you faggot, I'm not. You can't make moral arguments to people that have been severely demoralized. And you really can't make moral arguments for supporting a useless fuck like Zelensky. People are desensitized to this shit. If you want to influence people to support the Ukraine effort, tell them honestly why they should support the war and then give them an actual path to victory, not some more made up bullshit. But I doubt our military leadership is even capable of figuring out an actual path to victory anymore other than

muh, strategic airpower

You think glide bombs are launched from Russia?

They are. That's why they fall short occasionally and Belgorod gets hit once again.

I guess you won't care about all those strategic bombers, either, comrade!

Those strategic bombers that had tires lined up on their wings and clearly weren't in any shape to be deployed. No, if I were Putin, I wouldn't bat an eye at losing them.

ah yes, the mythical tires of immovibillium
for you see comrade, the tires are of on plane, therefore plane cannot move!!!!

We've already achieved victory if you're paying attention. Russia won't be openly trading with Europe for at least a decade which keeps the European vassals in line and Russia weak. Everything that's happening now is just icing on the cake no matter how the war ends.

Two more weeks until Russia surrenders

Actually that's a good point. Ukraine instead of trying pulling off these PR stunts they could've been bombing oil refineries and actually... fighting the war in the frontlines to expell the russians!? Wow...

Several wars in history have involved mediation by third-party nations or entities. Here are a few prominent examples:
1. The Russo-Japanese War (1904-1905):

Mediator: United States President Theodore Roosevelt.
Outcome: Roosevelt facilitated the Treaty of Portsmouth, which formally ended the war. He won the Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts.
Significance: This treaty marked the first time an international peace treaty was signed on U.S. soil.

2. The Arab-Israeli Conflict (particularly regarding Egypt and Israel):

Mediator: United States President Jimmy Carter.
Outcome: Carter's mediation led to the Camp David Accords in 1978, which laid the groundwork for the 1979 Egypt-Israel peace treaty.
Significance: The Camp David Accords were the first peace treaty signed between Israel and any of its Arab neighbors.

3. The Cuban Missile Crisis (1962):

Mediator: United Nations Secretary-General U Thant.
Outcome: Thant proposed a deal that helped de-escalate the crisis: the Soviets would halt their ships if the U.S. pledged not to invade Cuba.
Significance: This event highlights the role of the UN in diffusing a potential nuclear conflict.

4. The Iran-Iraq War (1980-1988):

Mediator: While various attempts were made, the UN ultimately played a significant role in brokering a ceasefire.
Significance: The UN's involvement showcases the importance of international organizations in mediating protracted conflicts.

sorry for shit format i just copy pasted some examples of wars that were mediated by a third party i think thats what will happen here personally, as opposed to nuclear war. Someone will step in with a good enough deal and end it. Money grubbing bastards always have a price

Lets see how retarded that whole thing.

Be ukrapig

have assets in russia close to strategic weapons ready to strike at all times.

have massive strategic and political advantage

waste all in nothing strike.

A few bombers damaged
Russia aware of such options
Window closed for any western nation to do the same.
Lost all leverage to have a good seat in negation with west.
Wests have to fear such similar capability's in there own nations now.
Strategic assets are now under conventional threat in the home ports and bases.
As if keeping nukes was not expensive enough it got even much more expensive....

Retaliation of Russia will be handed out with no regards for any rules.
All that just for some kek´s and Positive outcome for ukraine, no gains no win´s.
Just thrown out your uno reverse card in the fiere....

Only a ukrapig can be that retarded.

Should I just stop paying attention to what Presidents say altogether?

Yes. The people (or the President they elect) don't decide foreign policy. Obama campaigned on shutting down Guantanamo Bay and withdrawing from the Middle East. He won the Nobel Peace Prize on day 1 in the job and didn't do either of those things. National security of the most powerful country on earth is not decided by the dumbfuck people who vote. The Cold War, or any war, was not won by asking the people what to do.

The Pentagon war games constantly, they're constantly researching how to maintain dominance and disrupt adversaries. You don't just get elected and do whatever the fuck you want. If the intelligence agencies consider you a threat to national security they will make sure you have no power. That's their jobs.

Wouldn't Putin just eventually escalate instead of letting that happen?

That's the risk, so it always has to appear to be Ukraine that is the escalator. Crazy Zelensky. Meanwhile Trump talking "his friend" Putin down from escalation with phone calls.

is USA definitely still backing this

Yes. Trump is increasing natural gas and oil production to drive their price down decreasing Russia's main source of revenue. One of America's best weapons is sanctions, and pretty soon you'll see Trump expand sanctions to companies in China, India, Indonesia, etc. who are doing trade with Russia. He's expanding the economic war, but seemingly trying to broker peace at the same time. That's a show.

oha nd now russia will update and upgrade there strategic air fleet in addition. Good job ukraine fucking everything up in seconds.

I hope and prey russia kalibrs nuclear powerplants and gases civilians maybe even tactically nukes your positions.

When you kill your enemies, they win!

Calm down there Trudeau

No Russia doesn't fly over Ukraine because Russia can't SEAD.

Ukraine has effective air denial over most of the country

Russia won't be openly trading with Europe for at least a decade which keeps the European vassals in line and Russia weak.

What the fuck does Russia need from Europe? Europe makes nothing anymore. They are a market for oil and gas and they will continue to buy this from Russia because they were dumb enough to buy into the green energy meme.

Ukraine has effective air denial over most of the country

And yet Russia keeps advancing without strategic air superiority. Imagine that.

As long as Russia is led by a conservative, yes they won't really resist ZOG. They'll just slowly kill their own people in the 2 week SMO fighting nazis of WW2. Russia needs a Hitler or Stalin. Someone with balls.

Every post you made sucks balls

Suck a dildo, for Ukraine!

How many more years do you think it would take for them to get to Kyiv at this pace?
5 years? 10 maybe?

No these planes are used for their nightly cruise missile attacks. Whenever Russia does a big missile raid on Ukraine they have these planes line up full of missiles and then spam fire them into Ukraine.

For the next few weeks Russia's not going to be able to do that while they're trying to reorganize their bomber fleet and see what they can salvage.

Just when I thought nigger pube hair couldn't get any more disgusting...

how long is it going to take ukraine to get back into ukraine? Ukraine hasn't held Crimea in 11 years lmao

T.Nigger

Strategy is not you you races thing is it?
Its tomorrow niggers problem not you nigger problem now.

Just KYS.

If that market wasn't important they would've cut Europeans completely off the second military aid started arriving. As important as winning a war is it's still less important than being able to sell Europeans their energy.

I was just thinking about this. Have they even used these things once this war? Lmfao

Those Russian Bombers are part of Russia's plans to sink American carriers with HYPERSANICS those bombers could also fire missiles at those mineral deposits destroying our mines when the war continues.

oh and China was likely planning on doing the same thing to us one day but now that the Ukrainians have done it we can plan against it.

What the fuck does Russia need from Europe?

everything from planes, to power plant generators, to harvesters, to seeds, to dairy breeding stock etc, etc, etc. your just stupid and/or brainwashed by propaganda.

How many more years do you think it would take for them to get to Kyiv at this pace?

5 years? 10 maybe?

Yes you stupid fucking nigger. That is literally what is going to happen on that exact timeline. This is what happened in Chechnya. The entirety of the NATO intelligence establishment literally can't understand that Putin is doing what he already did and there is nothing you can do to stop him other than throw meat at the problem.

As important as winning a war is it's still less important than being able to sell Europeans their energy.

So basically, Putin cucked Europe into funding a war that is against their long-term interests. How is this not a win for Putin?

Very interesting.

he Pentagon war games constantly, they're constantly researching how to maintain dominance and disrupt adversaries

How is filling the ranks with women, trannies and other minorities maintaining dominance though? It looks like they are weaker than ever before. Or is this some Sun Tzu shit? Are all the females and trannies just fakes to appease wokes and they will be shoo'd out the door the moment a real war starts?

Also during WW2, generals got overridden by idiots quite often, so I assumed that was still true and all our generals are cucked.

Meanwhile Trump talking "his friend" Putin

So that's all a fake play?

Sometimes it feels like the government is trying to cover up something mildly controversial, with something that's even more controversial covering it.

so it always has to appear to be Ukraine that is the escalator. Crazy Zelensky

Sounds good. So again, is this just avoiding moralfag culpability.

He's expanding the economic war, but seemingly trying to broker peace at the same time. That's a show.

So it's all a big show for sure, and this war is 100% continuing? I am honestly getting sick of waiting around for something to happen, and the constant political back and forth is tiring me out.

China

Problem solved. Europe doesn't matter.

cause you niggers keep spamming 1pbtid threads, or 2pbtid in this case, go back

Meat that keeps getting younger and younger, no less...

nope, and if only it was so easy

So with production of new airframes and modern tanks and infantry fighting vehicles being quite literally non-existent, and with the pace of destroyed artillery and SAM sites increasing every day, you think that Russia's operational capacity will be able to sustain another decade of war?
Several airfields just got drone swarmed, all at the same time, thousands of kilometers from the frontline. How many more times does this have to happen before there are literally no aircraft left in Russia?

You just described why it's good for the US. Russia won't be selling their oil and nat gas to Europe at pre-2022 levels for years.

ukraine sources say

Zomg i am convinced now, since everything the Jew-dwarf says is true

here's footage of them ballistic missiles working, faggot

t. Ivan Copenski

so a bunch of tu95 built in the fucking 50s part of a strategical bombing unit that isnt even involved in the bombing campaign in ukraine get destroyed and this is a apparent victory there really dragging this "victory" out all while russian jdams get dropped on ukrainian units by the hundreads everyday and wipe out priceless irreplacable equipment sent by uncle sam

The Sarmat isn't experimental anymore. It's been fielded.

Look, friend, you can cope and seethe all you want.
It's a simple reality; Russian logistics and manufacturing is the number one weakest link of their army, and it is being progressively weakened.
This is not a sustainable war, as you would like to believe, and territorial gain will not outweigh the increased burden of logistics. The reason they are pushing so hard now is to have concessions in the pending negotiations, not to set up some masterful long term strategic play.

they are involved in bombing ukraine, moron.

nigger did you just type that ukraine literally exists on nothing but gibs from other governments that take forever to be manufactured and be sent to the frontline that is if zelenskys cronies dont pocket all the money america sends them lol

This is not a sustainable war, as you would like to believe

We have been hearing this for the last three years, yet somehow, Russia keeps advancing. When exactly will the logistics war defeat Russia? Wasn't the Russian economy supposed to collapse two years ago?

Ukraine capabilities

you mean jewish lobbyists stealing american tax dollars?

>severely handicaps Russia's ability to launch cruise missiles and glide bombs on Ukraine positions

But like doesnt that leave them with no choice but to do what they did before and bomb you from orbit with bunker busters and supersonics and even nukes?

Currently Zelensky is in hiding after throwing some shit at Russia.
Here is what will come next:
(1) Russia stays silent and acts unbothered by this act
(2) Zelensky comes out of his whole
(3) Tactical nuke

yeh right buddy there ancient fucking bombers they use fast light fighters like su25s and shit to do jdam runs this isnt fucking ww2 those tu95s would become target practice

All of the T-72s, SU-27s and S-300s in the world couldn't capture Ukraine.
Now think about what it means that the pocket change NATO countries lend to Ukraine has utterly and completely defeated Russian strategic power, and then tell me with a straight face they aren't a collapsing empire.

Europe is still buying Putin's energy resources which he is using to fund the war. What part of this don't you understand?

But genuinely there is nothing proving anything more than they are saying it is. Honestly I think hohols are probably full of shit as usual. That's their MO and national sport.

All of the T-72s, SU-27s and S-300s in the world couldn't capture Ukraine.

Lol. Russia is literally doing this right now, as we speak, on the same timeline they did this in Chechnya. It's the west that will run out of military aid to throw at Ukraine unless NATO adopts a different strategy.

What's to say. Russia fucked up but the effect of this is embarassment + costing money. Nobody is going to have a nuclear war and these bombers aren't meant to be used against Ukraine but rather to keep America away. America will still stay away as before so I'm not seeing the difference. It's a big L but Russia has taken so many during this war. Maybe Russia will finally respond but they're probably either too pussy or weak to do so.

Ukraine is holding russia off with Alibaba drones. They'll run out of soldiers far before they run out of weapons. Both countries will have severe demographic collapse in the coming decades. Maybe Ukraine really is going to be Israel 2.0 once all the current residents are dead.

You summed it up. The only thing you left out is some U.S. general probably planned this shit with his NATO buddies so they could have a "success story" which they will use to buy a bunch of useless bullshit from Anduril costing U.S. taxpayers billions and making the world no more safe for the cost. The U.S. defense industry always drives crap like this.

What could Russia do in response that they haven't done already? More shelling Ukrainian cities? Maybe another round of MIRVs with the nukes taken out?

You know that there were only 80 Abrams tanks were sent to Ukraine, with only 31 coming from the US, right?
There are over five thousand Abrams in service in the US military.
Please, tell me again how NATO is going to run out of tanks because they gave a half dozen of their oldest tanks to Ukraine, and how Russia losing upwards of a hundred tanks a week is somehow a sustainable rate of loss.

If Russia could fight the war without selling it's oil and nat gas to Europe they would have which would have made military and financial aid incredibly unpopular to the average European or at the very least impact the industry that's sending Ukraine weapons. It'd be like saying Stalin trading oil with Germany when they were outside of Stalingrad can be considered a win because he was using the money to fund the war.

Both countries will have severe demographic collapse in the coming decades.

Which is probably the entire point of the war.

Post videos not ghost of Kiev. The only video posted. Had 2 planes destroyed and 7 damaged.

A truck exploded prior to any drones launching. An airfield wasn't even attacked. Other's are counter claims of being defended. Better security

Without video feeds are exaggeration. Dumb propaganda. There's only one video feed? Explain

They should have done this, except larger in scale, and two years ago.
Bravo faggots, better late than never I suppose.

Bombing civilian infastructure across the country to punish the enemy and make it difficult for them. Extremely gay not to do it. Maybe they can't lmao fucking russians

How is filling the ranks with women, trannies and other minorities maintaining dominance though?

I can't explain that. Like you say maybe that was a case of the politicians overriding the generals. America hasn't had to put boots on the ground anywhere in some time so perhaps that's why it was accepted.

Social policies like that are what the President is able to change, foreign policy clearly has limits.

So it's all a big show for sure, and this war is 100% continuing?

Does it seem like Zelensky or Putin are anywhere close on a settlement? They're both still demanding the same things they were at the start of the war. The only change is that Europe will be supplying the bulk of the weaponry from now on instead of America. Russia has been advancing quickly for the last year, but still not fast enough to end the war anytime soon.

Assad fled Syria within weeks of Trump winning the election. Trump met Arab leaders last month including the new leader of Syria, a "former" terrorist. Syria is going to become a transit nation for Arab gas to Europe, which will further deplete Russian revenue. Pipelines take time to build, but the plans were made before the war in Syria began and now with the war in Ukraine they're going to be accelerated.
chathamhouse.org/2024/12/turkeys-energy-hub-ambitions-have-new-momentum-after-assads-fall

Europe has no defense industry. We just found that out a few months ago when they talked a bunch of shit to Trump and then backed off because they realized it would take at least 10 years to rebuild their defense industries to be self-sufficient, and that's assuming Muhammad Abu Jamal, the "German," can be trusted to work in Rheinmetall's factories and not just riot in the streets like all the future doctors and engineers are doing in Paris at this present moment.

The day NATO weapons and ammo stops coming in or the day the funding stops is the day the war ends so either Russia was never serious about winning or they need the revenue to function as a country.

This. I will make the success dependent on the time it takes for Ukraine to come "demanding" another xxx billion $€

How is filling the ranks with women, trannies and other minorities maintaining dominance though? It looks like they are weaker than ever before. Or is this some Sun Tzu shit?

It literally is Sun Tzu shit and it literally benefits China. You will never convince me that China isn't the unseen hand in all of this. I guarantee Biden's administration was funded by China and all their policies existed to directly weaken the U.S. military and demoralize it's people. And while the West is fighting over Ukraine, they continue to prepare their military to take over Taiwan. But the trannies and DEI hires in the U.S. military can barely comprehend long-term Russian strategy in Ukraine, much less how it affects world geopolitics and China's aspirations. Even if the U.S. unfucks it's military, it will take at least another 20 years to root out the faggots and liberals and become a functional fighting force again, because you can't convince any of these DEI hires that they are a massive part of the problem and they need to change their politics. If anything, they have been programmed to think competent soldiers and analysts are "Russian Bots" and will oppose efforts to root them out as "Russian Disinformation."

what a dumb fuck you are lol

Russia's economy is expanding and they have a net trade surplus. I don't understand the people who keep predicting the economic collapse of Russia. It isn't happening.

Like you say maybe that was a case of the politicians overriding the generals.

Well it was the worst social policy decision I've ever seen. So many men were turned away from joining because of it. Either because a position needed to remain vacant for women because of diversity quota's, which really pissed off and burned a lot of men. Or they were just never going to ever accept the fact that a woman or tranny might be bossing them around if they joined. It was such a shoot yourself in the foot moment to do that. Way to scare away talent AND piss it off at the same time. More needs to be done to make it clear to the public that this shit is gone and been reversed if that's the case. Because surely if we ever do need a boots on the ground war, national security will override this woke shit right? We aren't going to be drafted and given some shit chick as our squad leader right? Because that's an honest concern.

Does it seem like Zelensky or Putin are anywhere close on a settlement

No, but I also get my news from Youtube, perhaps my feed is just fucked but it's just constant chickening out from world leaders and constant peace talks and demands for cease fires and the war looks like it's about to be over in 5 minutes every fucking day for the last 6 months. Video title after video title claiming "Ukraine is done, Russia is done, the war is over bla bla bla" the fuck does this shit come from? I am fucking so sick of confusion inducing propaganda.

And interesting in regards to Syria. You know a lot so I will ask more. What's the deal with China and Iran? Surely they aren't going to bait a second front open? Do you think Xi is just saber rattling or will make a move for Taiwan?

The day NATO weapons and ammo stops coming in or the day the funding stops is the day the war ends

So you think Ukraine is using literally everything they get, as they get it?
Lol, you wish.

Protip: Trump tried his best to "end the war" for Putin by fucking over Ukraine, and he failed.
He doesn't have the control to give orders, or the power to enforce his will.

No, he's completely right. Russia is a clown show.

I guarantee Biden's administration was funded by China and all their policies existed to directly weaken the U.S. military and demoralize it's people

Fucking this! I've been feeling it too, but hadn't seen anyone else say it. The woke infiltration of the military really does seem like foreign infiltration. Just don't know why it's not being called out more on social media.

Russia's economy is expanding

By expending a rapidly-depleting warchest...

f anything, they have been programmed to think competent soldiers and analysts are "Russian Bots" and will oppose efforts to root them out as "Russian Disinformation."

Yeah I have encountered this shit in Australia. They absolutely are a fucking part of the problem. Why can't we just counter them and claim they are Chinese assets? Like why can't we just have a huge campaign and claim all woke nonsense is fucking chinese infiltration and proponents are chinese assets. It's weakening us, it's gotta be either chinese, russian or something else anyways.

Sierra Army Depot vibe check

My original posts were how they and Europe are worse off than they were in 2021. Haven't said anything about collapse.

Ukraine is completely dependent on the West yes.

Five regions simultaneously attacked. The response to the attack will not be more of the same that has gone on in taking territory. It will be extraordinary. Doesn't matter if only the shitter was struck and destroyed. One nation doesn't attack five regions of another nation and there will just be some nominal response because something caught fire. Escalation but in what manner. Guess we have to wait. If today it's five regions, no telling what tomorrow brings so the response will be beyond what the worst possible outcome was strategized.

Syria is going to become a transit nation for Arab gas to Europe, which will further deplete Russian revenue.

This won't happen anytime soon, but you are correct. The Syrian conflict is about European access to Mid East energy. I wouldn't rule out additional regime change in Syria though and I wouldn't assume Iran and Lebanese Hezbollah won't have a say in the future of the region. We saw how effective Iranian affiliates are most recently in Yemen. Syria is at a temporary pause because the larger nations have bigger priorities, but the conflict is far from over.

fair enough. didnt even know ukraine was a thing before this war, so its win win. place i didnt know existed stops existing, place i did know about stops existing.

cant wait. gotta admit tho, it sure has been a long fuckin 2 weeks and im ready to be done with it

Because the Chinese are embedded in Western governments and have been for about 50 years, at least since Nixon/China. I will never understand why HW Bush granted them Most Favored Nation status or why the U.S. allowed them to build up such a massive trade surplus with the U.S. It's the biggest conspiracy staring us in the face no one wants to acknowledge, but every world leader is selling out their Nation to China for some reason. In the instance of the Biden administration, the connections to China were overt and no one in the FBI cared about them. The Chinese problem is bigger than anyone realizes.

The fact there're no satellite photos of the aftermath containing the alledged 40 planes is enough, but alas, most people just read the headlines and call it a day.
Oinkraine in particular loves to brag about their successes and will post anything online. No photo means it didn't happen. Simple as. They can claim whatever they want in their imaginary news papers, they're loosing land every day.

Sounds like bullshit. If Biden was so pro-china, he'd have reversed some Trump trade policies that he left in place.

ow

How the fuck did we get so infiltrated from so many nations?

If this is true, this is a rather large development.
I hope the theater kids in charge of our government and military don't do anything hasty if this is true.

The woke infiltration of the military really does seem like foreign infiltration.

It's absolutely in line with Chinese military doctrine. They attempt to actively weaken their enemy through PSYOPs and demoralization. It's not coincidence that TikTok peddles degeneracy to the West but traditional values to the Chinese audience. They absolutely have undermined Western values, so much that our military leadership and most of our government actively spews out their socialist bullshit.

Just don't know why it's not being called out more on social media.

China owns Hollywood and they own TikTok. They have a pretty extensive security apparatus. It's not called out because they actively target and suppress anyone that calls it out, and they do have a lot of influence in western governments to silence dissidents in other countries.

attack was near dusk, the only sat photos we got are night photography/SAR/IR which is always low res
wait longer, its 7AM in Moscow currently

I hope the theater kids in charge of our government and military don't do anything hasty

Kek. Theater kids. Best way to put it.

these are specifically SAR, Synthetic Aperture Radar

I am pretty sure western military leadership is purposefully weeding out good male soldiers because they are bought and paid for chinese assets. They are using all this cover language of woke and diversity and feminism crap. But they are actively undermining our military strength, preventing the people who need to be in from being in, and making sure the people who shouldn't be in are in. When the fuck is something going to be done about this? How fucking comped are we and how far up does it go?

Syria is at a temporary pause because the larger nations have bigger priorities, but the conflict is far from over.

I agree with this assessment.

If we're being honest, neither the Biden Administration nor the Trump Administration were particularly harsh on China. They targeted specific sectors with tarrifs, but the trade imbalance remained and remains largely unaddressed. And Trump abandoning TPP probably helped China.

The people running Biden's Admin called themselves a politiboro. That should tell you.

I'm going to laugh when ukraine is getting bombed by the same planes they claim to have destroyed.

Ukraine has been gaped by the generals, soldiers, tanks and whatevers they claim to have destroyed, Russian war necromancy is a scary thing

How fucking comped are we and how far up does it go?

So comped that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs (Milley) called Chinese leadership to inform them of Trump's actions. When the highest ranking member of the U.S. military is more loyal to China than his own President, you have a big fucking problem.

Well this flies in the face of what the Britbro said before. How the fuck did a comped cuck get so high?