HAPPENING HEAVEN CONFIRMED REAL
Sorry I don't listen to anything a woman says
Fake and Gay
You need to treat your mother better
I died 11 minutes, had a hallucination, and now I'm back to grift this thing till the wheels fall off
When youre near death your body releases the same chemical in ayahuasca that gives out of body experiences. It can seem like your soul has left the body, bright white light, etc. Its all hallucinations and medically proven by science.
Near death experiences are highly documented and there's a lot of common elements to them. I believe they're indication of life after death
I can't convey to you what heaven looked like because it's so above what we can even imagine, a million times
Imagine Anon Babble fags in such a place
Heaven is a diverse society.
You will learn this.
sadly this, at least its something I guess
i didnt read but i also died on march 11 2006 when i was 19 years old and went from atheist to knower immediately it was the best thing that has ever happened to me.
everyone thought i went crazy cause i had to tell everyone the wonderful news.
then i stopped giving a fuck and dont like most people lmao.
it was funny because i used to be ashamed of things in my life that compared to others is laughable to be ashamed of and that alot of other people are actually sick disgusting fucks that need to be shot in the fucking head.
It is a hallucination but given that it lasts until the last moment of awareness, it’s effectively eternal to the person experiencing it.
The Bible is quite clear about what happens when we die. We return to the earth and sleep until the last day when we are to be resurrected and judged. The glimpse of bliss right before you die has little to do with Heaven. It’s more of a comforting act by the Spirit on your way out. Like taking a beer for the road, but better. We don’t actually get to paradise for a long long time after that, and we all get there at roughly the same time.
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Daniel 12:2
yeah i think this too.
because its very similar.
i think the brain dumps a chemical naturally to make it comfy and interesting and beautiful then poof.
It evolved to do this because?
I hope not. Imagine going to heaven and seeing all the roasties that rejected you.
I would literally kill them in heaven
The brain evolved to do this because it gives a competitive advantage to the soon to be dead?
Considering the shills having a nervous breakdown and some dude that died and saw hell but was later revived...
Said they would listen to some nigger pop singer constantly.
I say heaven is real, like basking in the light of God and understanding fully our part in existence for eons.
Perhaps some work to be done, in the name of God.
Instead so many will just vanish.
Imagen that, missing out for money, defending ideologies design to enslave.
Talk about choices...
That would never happen. I can't wait to go to Heaven and see Uncle Adolf there. Heaven is called Heaven because there are no Jews in there. Most roasties are surely burning in the depths of Hell for killing babies and whatnot.
The Bible is clear that no one enters Heaven until the Apocalypse.
Fun fact, Hell doesn’t exist yet either. That doesn’t appear until after the Judgement. Right now the damned are also sleeping in the earth alongside the living, waiting for that last day. The place of wailing and gnashing describes the isolation of slipping into death without that comforting assurance by the Spirit. For those people, their last moments are visions of hellfire not because that’s where they’re going immediately but because that’s what awaits them eventually.
So is hell isn't it faggot
So I'll have to tolerate the kikes even after death for an unknown period of time? How is this not Hell exactly?
"heaven" AKA the place infested with parasitic loosh driven entities Robert Monroe encountered during OBEs ?
So Flatliners was right all along.
It's not heaven but consciousness has been proven to be nonlocal.
youtube.com
People with no electrical brain activity have outer body experiences that can be tested. Past life recollections can and have been tested and documented.
My heart stopped a couple of times during surgery, which means I technically died for a while. Anyways, you feel nothing, no imagery of the sorts. Your last memory since waking up would be the ceiling of the operating room.
just leads to usage here, they become complacent because there's no sense of familia amongst whites
there is no soul, there is no conscious that exists beyond a produce of the sense.
die for 11 minutes
wake up in New York City on September 11th, 2001
Find myself in a suit with a briefcase resting at a diner
Walk outside, sandwich in hand and suitcase in the other
See planes hit the twin towers
Try to run but get by the flying corpse of a fat man
Wake up back in reality
I'm resting on a hospital bed, connected to a series of tubes and wires
The TV in front of me is showing of the One World Trade Center being crashed into by an AI-operated passenger jet
...on 9/11
Nine Eleven
Not-self means karma still continues. Energy cannot be created nor destroyed. Your next life is like a candle being lit by another candle. Is the flame the same as the previous flame? Not really, but it's also dependent on the previous flame. It's the same but not the same. It's you in the next life but not you. It's the continuation of you. Time itself is not linear. Everything exists all at once along the entire timeline. Quantum mechanics shows particle literally travelling back in time to make adjustments. We are a process along the timeline at every time within the timeline.
No, you’ll have to tolerate being eaten by bugs for a while though. You don’t share your dream space with others now, I can’t imagine that changes after death.
Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.
Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,
And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.
there is also no reincarnation. There is only this.
The glimpse of bliss right before you die has little to do with Heaven. It’s more of a comforting act by the Spirit on your way out.
Nah. Life reviews are one of the most common experiences of NDE's. There's zero reason to have them if related to "comfort", as many of them are uncomfortable.
It's likely the "sleep on earth" refers to our physical bodies, not our spiritual bodies, and when the end comes, our spirits will be put in renewed "awake" physical bodies.
The question is not whether heaven is real or not, it is whether one will ever see it.
Well you'll be surprised in your next life then.
there is nothing that experiences another life. There is only the illusion of a self experiencing this life
Simply not true, one of those popular myth types of things.
The problem with all these theories is that they rely on a functioning brain to have coherent conscious experiences. When your brain lacks blood flow, you don't have coherent experiences, you have disorientation, slurred speech, jumbled thoughts. When people have NDE's they say the experience was more real than real life. Everything was intensified. extreme clarity. They are able to hear conversations in other rooms and later be verified. They have LASTING change (which is different than a hallucinogenic experience where their change doesn't last).
Anyone who says "this has been proven by science" is either naive about the actual data, or lying.
It's a comforting theory for the average atheist but there's simply little to no evidence behind that theory.
could be as well DMT that is spread during birth and death or maybe DMT is the "heaven hormone"
hallucinogenic experience where their change doesn't last
false. hallucinogenic experiences can and do produce lasting changes.
Interesting but there's no information if she's an Atheist who saw heaven or was already a believer and the heaven was just a manifestation of her beliefs
Mind explaining quickly? Was it similar to Op's article?
So what happened anon?
Heaven is real, and only White people (God's true chosen ones) are allowed in.
Imagine "home" with your entire being while envisioning yourself as a rubber band stretching. Hold "home" in your mind as you release the tension.
Worth an attempt.
was going to ask same question
what's the point to do it?
and how the fuck such random mutation did get passed to others when you basically die to experience it?
false. hallucinogenic experiences can and do produce lasting changes.
They don't, not even close to the lasting changes NDE's bring. This has already been looked at by Greyson (if you don't know who he is in the scientific NDE field, you're not educated enough on the subject to be discussing it).
Not only that, but years and years later, the NDE experience has much more clarity in remembrance than drug hallucination experiences, as if it was a real, intense memory.
The similarities between ndes are very compelling when you look into them. Sorry but there's no way I believe all these people are attention seekers and are making up stories.
There was a good database i used to read all the time but I can't find it anymore. I don't think it was nderf but maybe I'm remembering wrong
But Emily, we were married on earth, why are you conversing with this ethiop?
O Edward don’t be so naive! The obsidian rock is hard and the cock crows twice as long!
emily stop this vulgarity at once!
bix nood nigga mahfuggin take yo ass thattaway nam sayin
You are a retard. It's not a myth. Your lungs release DMT a naturally occuring chemical of the brain. This is not a question or a statement that needs correcting by you faggot. "The same chemical in ayahuasca" refers to DMT. The only thing anybody is questioning on this subject is why. Shut the fuck up you stupid nigger.
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I've noticed there's a lot of regional news sites ending in live. They all have the same format, and they're all full of click bait garbage. Total shite.
Start reading the actual studies and data from people, mostly previously in the medical field, who make this their life work now. They classify NDE's now on a sliding scale of how "good" it was, and focus a lot on those "good" ones, rather than some joe schmo who says he fell, bumped his head, and met aliens who told Joe that he was meant to become the leader of the giraffes.
Same. Read about them extensively. People have accurately reported what was going on around them while they had 0% brain activity. Most researchers go in as skeptics and come out as believers. It isn't even necessarily religious, but part of nature. It seems that we don't simply disappear after the body dies.
Except for I died and none of that happened how could you even have memories of your brains dead moron
You have obviously never done DMT. You could tell me what I saw really happened and I would believe it. It took me 2 years to realize I didn't die. You are a fucking loser with no life experience speaking on subjects you don't understand. God damn you mother fuckers are stupid.
based
medically proven
literal made up source based on makebelief
Yeah bro they had all these human memories intensified even though their brain was dead do you realize how stupid you NDE fags are
NDA experiences are very informative.
youtu.be
died
No, then he wouldn't have returned.
The brain doesnt create consciousness. It is a receiver for it, like a satellite dish.
There has never been any evidence that in humans DMT is supplied to the brain upon death. It's Strassman's hypotheses. Do you know WHY it's a hypothesis? Because it's not proven.
I notice you also ignored how you need to have a functioning brain in order to have a conscious experience. Even reduced bloodflow to the brain when in the process of dying, leads to incoherent consciousness with the effects I described in my last post. What SHOULDN'T happen is the effect of essentially hyper-consciousness. NDE's do NOT fit into the modality of how we think our brains work in regards to conscious awareness. Again, you need to read more about the subject you're arguing about before you actually argue it.
irish
go to heaven
Show me where I said that. These AI replies are horrible.
Another christcuck propaganda piece.
Buddy you know some people who have had NDE's have also done hallucinogenics and they always say that it was a completely different experience, right?
You could tell me what I saw really happened and I would believe it.
Perfect example of how you don't believe it happened though. People with NDE's UNEQUIVOCALLY believe it happened. It wasn't just "real", it was MORE REAL THAN REAL LIFE. Do you not get that? It's like when you dream and you wake up, despite how realistic the dream was, you recognize it was a dream, and that this world was more realistic in retrospect. That is NOT the case with NDE's. It's as if this world was a dream in comparison to how real their other experience was when they died.
There has never been any evidence that in humans DMT is supplied to the brain upon death.
Here is my entire reply again.
You are a retard. It's not a myth. Your lungs release DMT a naturally occuring chemical of the brain. This is not a question or a statement that needs correcting by you faggot. "The same chemical in ayahuasca" refers to DMT. The only thing anybody is questioning on this subject is why. Shut the fuck up you stupid nigger.
I can't seem to find it. I would assume if it is released in the lungs it is supplied to the blood. Shut your retarded ass up please. It's painful.
Yeah lets just leave this out...
took me 2 years to realize I didn't die
Kys faggot.
Ironically the inside of our skulls make great parabolic antennas
The problem with your retort is the assumption that consciousness is 100% local, rather than non local. Half this thread is full of half baked assumptions and "what if's". Come on people, if you're interested in being informed about the phenomenon, just read the books and studies on the subject thus far.
another seething jeet manlet flinging poo from his mud hut
Show me where I said that
Your lungs release DMT a naturally occuring chemical of the brain
Your brain doesn't release DMT as a fact. The end. You're wrong.
muh AI
Trying to be nice here by not calling you a retarded nigger, but you're making it very difficult.
> took me 2 years to realize I didn't die
Realize? Realize what? Either you medically died or you didn't medically die.
That doesnt prove hes wrong though. Youre arguing in absolutes like a jeet
The brain is not a receiver. Its very obvious from studies of brain damage, that the brain is the source of all visible mental faculties. If the brain was a receiver, brain damage would not alter the personality and memories of a person.
The brain is actually a transmitter. You think you are in control but you are not. You just experience what your brain does, but have no control.
hoc factum est! omnia famiia oculiorum rupet et fama insolenca et non veritas Caesaram, Legio, et omnia qui volunt signum caesarem in caelo.
damage to a receiver wouldnt disrupt or distort the transmission
Are you a 76 IQ jeet as well?
Speak for yourself leaf
based Italian living with wife, 2 kids + step dad, mother and Nona.
I believe shit after an hour dead. 11 minutes is not enough time for brain death
Didnt You give a report once that any gambling property wavung a foreign flag had succeeded? Canada has Nice police!
/Arguing
[] Awful RE sequel.
hallucination
explain viridical NDEs then
digital.library.unt.edu
read the work of Ken Ring or any of the other thanatological research done in the last 20 years before spouting off your mouth please
here's a study from fucking 25 years ago
thelancet.com
essentiafoundation.org
youtube.com
this is actually a pretty common response to NDEs
mine happened in september 2014 and even 11 years later i'm still adjusting to it
it's not just hte brain releasing DMT, it's the brain's activity adjusting its filters so it "tunes to a different radio station" if that makes sense
lol that fat bitch hallucinated
That doesnt prove hes wrong though.
What? Are you retarded? his claim is that DMT is a naturally occurring chemical of the brain. There's no evidence of that? I may as well say the brain produces Pixie dust, and because it's not disproven, I'm not wrong.
Distortion != change to something completely different.
there is no other place than where you are right here and right now. this ultimately means that there is no heaven or hell somewhere else. but it also means that you are already in heaven, or hell, or whatever, depending on your perspective
It takes about 30 seconds after blood stops flowing to the brain for the electrical activity to reach near zero. No blood = no functioning brain=no conscious experience possible following the current understanding of the brain. If you can explain how the brain can function without a supply of oxygen and produce vivid conscious experiences, you should drop what you're doing right now and write a paper on it.
muh science
i feel sorry for you faithless bitches, no wonder you troon out and end up killing yourself
Look at this antisemitic bullshit, so the jews are all delusional about religion?
This is incredible. Thanks for posting it. I had a panic attack that sounded exactly like this guys story began, laying down in bed, feeling weird, sensing a presence, getting scared and feeling like my heart was about to pop… but then I recalled the Anon Babble meme and I shouted at the top of my lungs
CHRIST IS KING
CHRIST IS KING
CHRIST IS KING
And I hear this hiss like a TV static “no he isssssnt”
And all of a sudden not only did I feel fine but I felt this exhilarated joy in my heart like holy shit this is real and I just beat a demon through Christ consciousness. You couldn’t wipe the exuberance from my face I was smiling from ear to ear as I drifted off to sleep. from then on I’ve always tried to find the good in people and I’ve been a “christcuck” ever since
explain viridical NDEs then
Entrainment?
Kys bot.
Woman's dying, endorphin-flooded brain hallucinates what she thinks heaven looks like, which just so happens to be different for every person who experience heaven.
Wow! I still don't believe in jewish mythology.
I had a dream we were all aware we were dead, there were constant glitches in the matrix, and each time we would just laugh at the ridiculousness, but it confirmed we were dead, but nobody really cared how, that lifetime ended, and we’re living this existence now.
hypothetically, entrainment of the NDE percipient's brainwaves by a source/frequency external to their brain could maybe cause these standardized experiences across cultures and thousands/hundreds of thousands of reports across the centuries
that would also line up with the common reports of a very high pitched ringing sound as the first thing heard/felt by the percipients (myself included)
what's giving off the frequency they get attuned to, then? is it just the background noise of the universe that we tune out most of the time?
these experiences can be induced via technological means (eg Michael Persinger's "God Helmet") but i don't think anyone's suggesting that all NDE recipients were getting zapped by brain lasers, even the ones recorded 1000+ years ago.
Damn nigger just admit you're wrong and stop seething.
look at these obvious shills
yknow one thing to realize about Anon Babble is that all the aggressive demoralization shills constantly posting retarded bullshit aren't actually trying to "win" any argument, they are practicing elision, ie trying to provoke us few remaining human Anon Babble users into sharing more of our opinions and thought process.
why would they want this? besides making us waste our time? i have no idea but suspect the answer has something to do with AI
so all the posters in this thread blaring about NDEs being hallucinations in the last few seconds of brain activity, even though that hypothesis has been fairly thoroughly disproven by actual peer-reviewed studies conducted within thanatological research programs in the last few decades?
part of it is modeling arguments for humans reading the thread maybe, but i really do think they are trying to provoke Anon Babble autists into talking about a topic they are interested in for whatever reason. and our answers are probably going in a database somewhere.
maybe Anon Babble is collectively training the AI?
Damn i didn't know that the brain functions continue as normal after it's stopped being supplied with oxygenated blood. I also didn't know that people experience clarity with reduced blood flow, and totally not disorientation, confusion, and reduced sensory perception.
The problem with a lot of skeptics is that they don't actually think before they assume.
so all the posters in this thread blaring about NDEs being hallucinations in the last few seconds of brain activity, even though that hypothesis has been fairly thoroughly disproven by actual peer-reviewed studies conducted within thanatological research programs in the last few decades?
Why did you quote me here? I've been pro legitimate-NDE this entire thread. The post you quoted was SPECIFICALLY about how it's nonsense that a dying brain can produce the qualities of reported NDE's which are very very clear, which is in complete opposition to the hypothesis that the brain produces these experiences alone.
I bet the Pope would disagree.
i went to a white fluffy place when i was under general anesthesia. Then i woke up in a hospital hallway and took me a while to remember why i was there
And what they saw may shock you
Kek.
Fuck off dago only you effeminate fucks worship women
During a near death experience a man realizes that he's being deceived by beings to try and go into the light and then he hears a voice far away that whispered, "he's figuring it out". The beings then try to convince the man to reincarnate with promises of moving him to a better planet
(Communcation in the astral realm is telepathic and you can understand others even if they don't speak english)
rumble.com
The story of a boy who remembered a past life as an American fighter pilot that died in WW2
youtu.be
A presentation from the University of Virginia on life after death, reincarnation, NDE's, and past life memories
youtu.be
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Experiences of an astral projector and how to navigate the astral plane and escape from negative entities, talks about what to do after dying
trickedbythelight.com
Some good reading material on the reincarnation trap
bibliotecapleyades.net
Here's some data from psychic remote viewers that points to humans being harvested for their energy and being kept from leaving earth after they die. The energy is used to create pockets of reality where time doesn't exist, which allows beings that live in these pockets to become like gods that don't die
The target for this was "moksha" which is liberation from the reincarnation cycle (Keep in mind none of the remote viewers are told anything about what they're viewing, all they are given is a randomly generated number that has been assigned to the target to allow them to view it without knowing what it is, yet they are still somehow able to describe aspects of the target despite having no foreknowledge of it):
odysee.com
Here's what Edward Riordan remote viewed about the vax clots 2+ years before the covid vax existed for those doubting the legitimacy of remote viewing
youtu.be
This is what he got in the remote viewing data:
strong sensation of the thing hes viewing being manmade
virus
flowing through blood
growing and expanding
inside
DNA
gives off some sort of signal, communicates somehow, wifi
cracking, busting open
feeling of fear, concern, doesn't feel good
transformation
sun/solar was something he felt a lot, mentioned solar explosion (solar flare or CME?)
sea life/aquatic
combined technology with plant cells/matter
study of algae blooms
has an effect on the human body
received signal has an effect on the body
The remote viewing findings of the clots interacting with wifi signals lines up with the findings in the video below where it was discovered that people who have been vaccinated give off bluetooth signals. The people running the tests went to a graveyard with no one else in it, and they picked up on multiple bluetooth signals which lead them to graves of people who died after 2020. So for people saying that these clots already existed prior to 2017 and the viewer made up his findings based off of that, you're incorrect as the clots you speak of didn't give off bluetooth/wifi signals like the remote viewer percieved
bitchute.com
When your heart stops beating your brain doesn't just automatically turn itself off like a computer.
inb4 no way it works for 11 minutes
Time in dreams works differently than in reality.
Eternal life only sounds like hell to me.
never had any NDE's but I've had visions or experiences of what I believe to be glimpses of Heaven and Hell
If they're only hallucinations then what is the purpose for them? Why do we dream for that matter? Nature is cruel, death is violent, therefore I find it hard to believe your brain would provide any sort of comfort in your final moments instead of lol lights out, bitch!
No one dies and comes back to life. They use a gay definition of death which is blacking out, happens if your blood pressure drops enough (like if you stand up too fast).
Hospitals love to declare sleeping people as dead to harvest their organs
we all get there at roughly the same time.
If that is what happens I think it will be like this. We all are there at the same time
read jeremy renner's book and listen to his interviews
dude describes it pretty nicely even though he wouldn't outright come out and say that there is a God but it's like many NDE stories,
a very final place
peaceful transition
being able to see yourself leaving your body
love being the only thing that you can sense
everything is held together by love, so you are connected with everything loved
profound understanding your situation gives peace
many tell you they don't wish to return but a force pulls you "back"
(You) a poet, anon
Yeah there really would be absolutely no evolutionary benefit to the brain pumping out hallucination chemmies when you die, it is absurd to believe such a notion given our understanding of evolution. Like our body lets us suffer immensely during our conscious life, but right on the brink of death it finally permits us to experience happiness for absolutely no reason or benefit to our survival? Fuck that retarded shit, it's completely nonsensical pseudoscience. NDEs are real, magic brain chemicals are not going to suddenly make you hallucinate like never before when you are about to die, it doesn't make any sense biologically.
Yeah, and I have experienced some of the worst agonizing pain caused by my own body. Where were those happy brain chemicals then? Nowhere to be found, I had to take fucking opioids to get any sense of relief. My own body wouldn't produce shit to comfort me.
I hope Jesus, angels and the Holy Mother come to get me when it’s time bros. Maybe with my old pets. I’ve had a really hard life. Pray I repent properly and forgive everyone
Could you provide me with some names?
bumped his head, and met aliens who told Joe that he was meant to become the leader of the giraffes
Also wtf lol that's not really what I meant
rickroll link
almost got me
Only Jews and their golems deny heaven, knowing they won't go there anyway.
Time in dreams works differently than in reality.
It doesn't, they've already tested this with people who lucid dream by having them move their eyes right and left in the dream world for every second they perceive time to have passed. The researchers then see the subjects eyes move right and left in 1 second intervals IRL.
Also you ignore the fact that people who have NDE's are very firm in that it was not a dream, and was in fact, more "real" than real life.
Also when your heart stops you have about 30 seconds before you brain stops functioning. Blood is indeed like the power source for your brain. No blood flow = brain isn't functioning. So you'll have to explain how people have an extremely lucid experience with a non functioning brain (and if you say the experience happens within that 30 second period, you then still have to explain why the brain is producing such vivid experiences more real than real life with a brain that's heavily impaired as it's already losing consciousness.
The Holy Spirit gives us all gifts. I got the gift of kicking demon ass. Negative thoughts and emotions can be neutralized now with just a few words thanks to the spirit. It feels good. You now have that gift too.
it's a last defense mechanism by the brain when all else fails.
a desperate attempt to try and dump everything it can to keep you alive.
it rarely works but when it does, you end up with stories like these lol
Better nice black people then a sea of Jeets and Jews doing the needful.
There's no such thing as hallucinations. Jews want to keep you in the physical prison of materialism (communism/capitalism)
There are NDAs were demons trick the person with nice visuals of dead relatives or 78 virgins only to go oops this is Hell and torture the person instead.
I'm not going anywhere without Jesus personally escorting me.
given that it lasts until the last moment of awareness, it’s effectively eternal to the person experiencing it.
No, it just means it lasts until your consciousness ceases. In the same way that you don't process the hours of a surgery while fully under or the hours of sleep outside of REM, a few moments of hallucinations before completely losing consciousness do not translate to an eternity of experiences.
It's only the present. Don't overthink it.
fpbp /thread
This guy knows
That doesn't even make sense from an evolutionary point of view. Why the fuck would a brain be benevolent and give a shit whether you have a pleasurable experience or not as you pass away? It should be doing the opposite and make you feel awful so that you'll want to keep living instead of giving in to the embrace of death.
How is experiencing the other world while remaining unconscious a survival strategy? If your brain is "dumping everything it can" Then why so many similarities that would have nothing to do with your brain going haywire?
Christcucks always ruin NDEs. I read a lot of them and there's a lot of consistent themes and observations that don't totally align with Christianity, or any religion, really.
But you always know it's a bullshit Christcuck NDE entry when it's in all caps saying: "AND THEN GOD TOLD ME WE HAVE TO HELP THE JEWS OR WE WOULD GO TO HELL AND HE SHOWED ME THE FIRE AND I SAW THE FIRE OF HELL."
Then you keep scrolling to another one that has a more honest and interesting account of what they saw. I can't tell you all how happy I am that Christianity is dying as a religion. For too long has it been an albatross hanging around our necks as a race.
Why are you materialists so steadfast to decline proof of a soul?
Earth contains evil and good. Why do you think the afterlife will only contain good when evil has been proven to exist? Do you also think objectively evil people deserve to go to a nice place? Imagine the ramifications if it was proven that there is no hell or something similar. How many people would rape and murder and steal, and just overall live as if life was a video game?
Sorry I don't
Then why so many similarities
because it's the same set of substances that get dumped.
Your whole attitude is not what I think how the afterlife goes. This mortal realm is educational, or a trial, or maybe a crucible to form our personalities as souls.
I leave it up to God to deal with that problem of those who don't deserve a nice afterlife. if some souls are evil enough, maybe they're just outright obliterated. If I was God I would keep sending them back to Earth until they stop being cunts. Maybe that's what Jews are. Cunts who don't want to grow up spiritually and are married to the material Earthly realm. Or maybe they exist to be our foil and cause us struggle because the point to exist in this realm is to struggle. IDK these are just thoughts I have based on what I've read and noticed.
deny*
Maybe. I also don't think if hell exists that it would be a permanent place. It doesn't really make sense to punish a soul if there is no chance at redemption; it would just be unnecessary sadism at that point.
But in the end all I can say is "I don't know."
it’s effectively eternal to the person experiencing it.
It's their last moment so it's effectively eternal
Word grift. This isn't even true.
says she saw heaven and hell
Yeah nah, disregarded.
If you see something like that, it was either something driven by your own brain or you're being fucked with by some entity who has set this soul trap to keep you happily here.
Whether this prison planet thing is good or bad who knows, but these human ideas of existence are overly simplistic and retarded way of looking at existence.
Why do people do evil? For personal gain and for sadistic fun.
Okay, imagine you're in a state where none of this human brain driven bullshit exists. You just exist and feel fuckall and don't care about not feeling anything because you don't have the brain to feel those things.
You're just a wave form function or some other weird incomprehensible abstract thing and only some fundamental part of "you" as a base form of an ego exists, which goes through growth over lifetimes.
Then you're born again and learn a bit more. Rinse and repeat until who knows what becomes of us.
Imagine the ramifications if it was proven that there is no hell or something similar.
It would be bad, because 95% of humanity is dumb as shit and need to be governed with fear and fairy tales of burning lakes if they don't behave themselves.
But considering how fucking stupid people are, you can't prove that hell exists or doesn't exist. They're going to believe in something like that anyways.
My concept of possible hell is, that your soul suffers a bit in some limbo state for a while a self induced hell, because it realizes how big of a dickhead it was. Then it eventually lets go of the remaining humanity and becomes that abstract thing and the cycle continues.
The ones where people see Hell frequently comment on how awful the smell is. Always found that interesting how they share that in common
india is hell
Confirmed
NDE's cant be trusted
All near death experiences have one thing in Common: none of them actually died.
This guy knows what's up, I nearly drowned in a pool when I was 11, I do not know how long I was underwater, maybe less than a minute, and I came out on my own, but before gathering the strength to swim up and save my ass, I felt a weird sense of peace, it is very hard to describe, it felt like I can finally stop fighting and let go, I remember seeing "the heavens" (aka the light coming from the surface of the wate), as if it was calling for me, beckoning me. I do not really know how long this lasted, it felt like an eternity, but I know it can't have been long. Before I knew it, I gathered enough strength to swim back to the surface and go out. I have been slightly terrified of the water since, even though I can swim.
How can materialism possibly explain NDEs?
Why would a brain give you one final trip before your inevitable demise? You think organs are capable of loving and caring for its carrier?
Maybe. I also don't think if hell exists that it would be a permanent place. It doesn't really make sense to punish a soul if there is no chance at redemption; it would just be unnecessary sadism at that point.
I agree with you entirely.
But in the end all I can say is "I don't know."
I also agree with this. I had the thought earlier that maybe this mortal universe is behind the veil of ignorance for the same reason the instructor closes the door for the exam. I know this sounds cliche, but pragmatically it could make sense for the sake of our temporal mortal selves that we're masked from the 'Beyond' for our life duration. And this is done so we focus on our struggles and take care of each other, and then later afterwards we review this.
Sorry for the rambling, but yes, maybe an aspect is we're not supposed to think about it too hard so that's why we're seemingly on our own in a material universe.
Clinically dead tho according to our best measures....so the same measures that would be taken if the body was then considered a corpse.
Then there's the test being done showing people can see what's on the top shelf near the ceiling, has apparently been proven many times, so giving us at least possible proof of an OBE.
I have really scary dreams sometimes I wonder if hell is like that like they are so scary
Read about near death experiences. Plenty of men have had them and report similar things. They even occur past brain death.
All we can do is be our best possible self. Ironically it was my hedonism that turned me to spirituality. Pleasure gave me nothing in the end except apathy and depression. I've walked in the way of the flesh for a long time, and it's not something I'd recommend. Flesh rots; the spirit is eternal. God bless you.
I've read countless NDE since the 70's and the consistent theme that any researcher will agree with me on is that people very definitely experience what they, on some level, expect to. If the person is a christian, viola, there's jesus. You'll get a whole genre on video platforms of "I saw jesus when I died" that are of course squarely snuggled into the middle of a christian-content-only channel.
Everyone is brainwashed...I just wish people could be a little more creative about how. Religion of every kind is an absolute ridiculous joke.
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Like drug trips, human brains can produce weird experiences when their operational parameters are pushed outside their normal range. As in a near-death experience.
Regarding the basic idea, it's that a person dies and goes to the afterlife, then returns. That is, they're not occupying their body at the time. The memories people have in life are encoded in the brain, as various diseases and brain damage indicate. So why, after returning to the body, would a person have memory of the afterlife? The body wasn't there to experience it. There would have been some other substrate doing that job in the afterlife.
That's fair, I just get pissed off at the annoying ones. I've read a lot of NDEs, not as many as you I'm sure, and yeah Jesus pops up a lot but it isn't always overbearing Christianity clichés like I'm strawmanning. And yes, you very much see reflections of personal beliefs.
Though I want to ask you, since you've read a lot - do you notice a sort of mystical - almost dark fantasy type vibe to a lot of these? I've noticed a lot of NDE accounts often have elements of ethereal places and beings, figures with hoods, old lineages, etc. I know it's sort of random, but I've seen this 'style' pop up a lot in NDEs, which is pretty cool.
You too, man. I hope we find the answers we're all looking for.
I've had OBE's myself. I've seen my father work in the yard, and I described to him every detail which he confirmed the next day.
Explain that, please.
Btw, I am a dreamer. I dream 3-4 times every night and I can remember them all. Never have I dreamed about anyone working in a yard. NEVER.
Explain that, please.
That's not what I was talking about (near death experiences), but OK. It's a vague statement about a mundane activity that people do all the time, with nothing to indicate paranormal information gathering on your part. So far, there's nothing anomalous to explain.
I am a dreamer. I dream 3-4 times every night
Everyone dreams. Dogs dream. Humans with normal sleep schedules usually dream more than that.
I can remember them all
3-4 per night is what you remember. Have you had a sleep study to compare what you remember to the number and duration of REM sleep periods you actually have?
Most people who get a glimpse of Heaven get a glimpse of Hell. If the purpose is to tell people it makes sense.
That's nice and all but only in post trauma or unconscious deaths.
If you're burned alive there is no dopamine or feeling of heaven. If you are being tortured or dismembered you are not gonna have the same experience. Only pain. Unimaginable pain.
Science is cool. Being able to disprove the existence of god and the afterlife is great. Unfortunately that's also a downer. Trillions of years until the heat death of the universe pass by in an instant and it's like nothing ever existed at all.
More christcuck schizo bullshit
Just report these threads
OBE and NDEs are pretty much the same thing.
So far, there's nothing anomalous to explain.
So it's "just a coincidence?" Sure bro. Keep living in denial. I don't know WHY you are denying the existence of a spirit, though, but I'm sure you must have your reasons.
You are working under the assumption that each consciousness is separate.
It seems consciousness is one.
We are fractals of a whole.
adam would be good if he followed this advice
after death experience
from someone who is not fucking dead
It kills me to share a planet with people who fall for this, and I say that as a Christian.
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woman
therefor liar
also stupid because woman
Case closed.
Reminder that 50% posters are isrealis.
They don't do the afterlife, for obvious reasons.
It's fun knowing it's true and watching them perform.
Several named characters went to heaven in the Bible, anon.
That's a beautiful testimony. More rapture confirmation. And even if you don't make the rapture, if you hold fast to Jesus and God and be willing to die for those beliefs you will be ok.
we will bow at the feet of jesus christ
i'm an aryan like my fathers before me
there are christian jeets too
OBE and NDEs are pretty much the same thing.
Not really, no.
So it's "just a coincidence?"
You haven't mentioned anything that needs even that level of explanation.
I don't know WHY you are denying the existence of a spirit, though
Where did you get that?