at what point, if not now, does Russia actually retaliate for Ukraine subterfuge and sabotage deep within Russia? there are so many fronts in Ukraine that aren't even engaged right now.
if this attack doesn't induce a full scale invasion of Ukraine by Russia, I don't really know what would.
At what point, if not now, does Russia actually retaliate for Ukraine subterfuge and sabotage deep within Russia...
People are speculating there will be massive bombings tonight
They will threaten with nuclear weapons for the 6 millionth time
bombings
but that's the standard Russian response to Ukrainian attacks within Russia, and it not only doesn't deter anything but it doesn't even eliminate the Ukrainian capability to do more attacks lol.
With what capabilities will they perform this full scale invasion? Most of their military is already engaged in the fighting and they can’t afford to just Zerg rush the entrenched Ukrainians. The only major escalation they have left is nukes or entering a state of total war. Both of those options aren’t really good ones. Honestly idk how they’re going to get out of this mess because time isn’t really on their side.
if this attack doesn't induce a full scale invasion of Ukraine by Russia
Do russia have some divisions just sitting on their asses or something? This is the full scale invasion, unless putin wants to fully mobilize and risk all the internal strife that would follow
It could be bigger than what we have ever seen. They might even bomb the places that helped ukraine gather intel.
If I get digits it's gonna happen.
Yeah.
HOW DARE YOU USE YOUR MILITARY FORCE TO ATTACK MY MILITARY TARGET
Doesn't bomb the Ukrainian MOD
Doesn't bomb Ukrainian airbases
Doesn't bomb trench lines
Doesn't bomb raillines
Instead waste their drones and bombs on civilian apartments and playgrounds which only kills civilians who Russia continues to claim they're trying to liberate and save.
Boggles the mind how stupid they are.
Imagine what a Ukrainian defensive line would look like after a fucking Ballistic missile slams into it?
Sure it'd be expensive but there would be literal jack shit the Ukrainians could do to stop it, they don't have a patriot to guard "Random trench in middle of nowhere"
If they had the capacity to bomb the Ukrainians into defeat then why haven’t they done so already? The only bombs which can truly decisively turn the tide are nukes. And they clearly have been unwilling to go down that path thus far.
Vatniks like to pretend they do and the media does as well, see the news about the "Massive Russian force near Finland" that they keep talking about which is just a few hundred Russians running around in an empty base trying to look tougher than they are.
Ukraine gathered intel from inside Russia, you saying they're going to bomb themselves?
Bold move Cotton
are you gonna pretend 2022 wasn't a full scale attack? the only way russians can escalate further are tactical nukes
the Russian army isn't fully mobilized, if this isn't cause for full mobilization then they might as well just say they give up lol. their inch by le inch movement in the donbas isn't sustainable when the Ukrainians are basically allowed to freely sabotage and attack Russia itself not just Russian forces in Ukraine.
I don't really understand why Ukraine is better able to attack within Russia than the Russian forces within Ukraine. At this point they should just sneak into Russia and go around into the back of the Donbas lmfao
Why do you think blowing up random trenches in the middle of nowhere will turn the tide? They aren’t populated like WW1 trenches. The missiles are extremely expensive and the handful of guys needed to man a trench are not.
Russians are using like 1% of their power
why do you pretend it was? it obviously wasn't.
this isn't total war, it's still some gay """special operation""" that they might as well end if they're not prepared to actually go to total war.
Doesn't bomb the Ukrainian MOD
Doesn't bomb Ukrainian airbases
Doesn't bomb trench lines
Doesn't bomb raillines
CLEARLY their responses to these attacks within Russia have done nothing to deter or stop more of them. Responding the same way is so stupid. This "gloves on" method of war fighting is insane when you're fighting an actual armed force unlike the middle east wars the US did. They're attacking like they're fighting a bunch of goat fuckers with random AKs.
there are so many fronts in Ukraine that aren't even engaged right now.
A lot more golf carts would need to be procured form China to engage any additional fronts.
do you really think muscovites are all willing to fight total war and die in ukrainian trenches?
if monke could mobilize more people he absolutely would
Most major assaults by the Russians since the initial 2022 invasion have ended in massive casualties and few gains due to how drones have changed the war. They can’t afford to exhaust all of their capabilities in hopeless meat waves. I think they’re just waiting and hoping for the west to back off so they can fight this war of attrition with an advantage. Or maybe they’re just looking for an off ramp so they can rebuild their forces and go at it later. They aren’t throwing everything at Ukraine because they don’t have enough to break the Ukrainian lines. It would only end in disaster for them.
if this attack doesn't induce a full scale invasion of Ukraine by Russia, I don't really know what would.
They did a full scale attack retard. Just cause they aren't sending volkstrumm doesnt meaning it isnt a full scale invasion. Also no nation has ever sent a half assed force to conquer a nation while waiting years for a real attack.
my guess?
theyll prolly have you retards spamming cope threads for at LEAST two more weeks
implying I give a shit about the latest eurasian shit flinging episode
I just like following geopolitics and war. I don't care about Ukraine or Russia. Trump should stop trying to achieve peace because both sides and the eurolibs clearly don't want peace.
We shouldn't support the Ukrainians either, it's not our problem.
how should I know? my point is if they're not willing to make this into a total war (which Ukraine is treating it as), then they should fuck off already.
Wanting the territorial borders of the 4 oblasts is clearly never going to happen lmfao. They're no where close to the major cities.
Trump backing off from Ukraine is strategically retarded for the US empire. And Russia doesn’t have the capability to perform the total war you’re describing. Meat waves are not going to break the Ukrainian lines. They also don’t have the option of securing a favorable peace currently. So they are kind of fucked unless something fundamentally changes. Going on a total war footing essentially guarantees defeat for them because they lack the material resources to sustain that for any significant amount of time.
if this attack doesn't induce a full scale invasion of Ukraine by Russia, I don't really know what would.
In case you haven't realized over the past 4 years, the reason this hasn't happened yet is simple: because Russia can't.
The idea that Russia is going easy on Ukraine for some reason has to be the most cringe idea to come out of Anon Babble.
the Russian army isn't fully mobilized
Yes, because putin wants to meme that they're not at war and its just a special military operation.
they always say that
those who do not study le history are doomed to repeat it
is not true but I think this gay war just proves that it is true
like why, instead of bombing the frontline and actually pushing forward, they then bomb some stuff in bumfuck nowhere
inb4:
uhm they are bombing weapons supplies
doesn't seem like it 9/10 times (maybe they target cachees but they sure don't hit them)
lol, cope. Ukraine is a shithole not worthy of our time and money. They're not important enough and are just as corrupt and shady as Russia. Let those two slavic shitholes figure it out. Europe can help if they want. The reality of the situation is that we're going bankrupt. We are literally heading down the same path as the USSR and it's hilarious.
at what point, if not now, does Russia actually retaliate for Ukraine subterfuge and sabotage deep within Russia?
They simply can't kek
x to doubt
We voted to end the US empire retard. No one gives a shit about the wet dreams of neoliberal globalists. Fuck Ukraine and fuck Russia.
I know I said that. Either go to total war or fuck off already this is just dumb.
from coomer to cooper
If Russia could beat Ukraine it would have already done so by now. It can't and it won't.
Good luck getting through your own minefields.
Kinda need bombers for that
kek man, you retards on here always make me chuckle, as if a "massive" bombing run could be pulled together in a few hours
lol
They might send in a cobbled group of drones.
There's also another Russian discovery - They're are out of their North Korean missiles.
Shit, it's going to take decades for Russia to build up their military strength again.
If they ever do....
options list for putin
use an empty nuke again (already used, looked like a pussy doing it)
continue bombing like you normally do
threaten to meltdown the nuclear power plant again (threatened before, would drag nato into the conflict and you'll die)
lol he ain't gonna do shit.
Do they lack manpower or equipment? What the hell do they spend all the oil money on?
The absolute worst thing Vladimir could have done was invade Ukraine. I mead that was the death of Russia.
If he'd only listened.
They won't do shit. Russia can't even handle Ukraine. The US would wipe every Russian soldier in theater off the map in an agreement. And Russia knows that very well.
Come on Putin you started this for someone actually doing something
Just fucking use a Nuke lets make thing interesting again
there are so many fronts that could be opened up if the Russians actually fought a war instead of some meme operation.
Like this area. what the fuck happens here? nothing?
Do you still think warfare is still like 1940s?
Retard.
Total war means conscripts being sent to the front. No one cares when some idiot volunteers to go die, but when their son doing his mandatory service gets sent mothers will lose their shit in public like they did when the that Kursk submarine sank.
Total war would be deeply unpopular so they won't risk it.
oops
LOL Why don't you hold your breath and wait for it.
they've been retaliating for over 3 years
You have no idea what you are doing, do ya.
is that more unpopular than having your little brother and his friends attacking deep within Russia? I almost think Russia allows some of this to happen to give them an excuse to go to total war.
They won't retaliate, they will just say 'enough is enough' and get serious and take the entire ukraine in 3 days.
They already initiated a full scale invasion. They want to, they are incapable.
to go to total war
WITH WHAT? You don't understand, THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO FIGHT WITH.
The mines they laid are holding up but it keeps behind their own lines stuck.
The finest Russian minds seem to think it is
Do Russians no anything about military assessment capacities?
there's over 1 million Russia soldiers fighting in Ukraine?
is that more unpopular than some planes being blown up
Yes. Being conscripted to go die in some shithole is less popular than reading that some planes in Siberia blew up.
Russians are typically fine with their government doing whatever the fuck it wants, including fucking up horribly, so long as it doesn't involve them.
It's been a full scale invasion since 2022, that's just what a full scale invasion from Russia looks like.
no
And they just Ukraine bust right on into Kursk and Bolgorod, uh? Are stuck in Luthansk and Donetsk cause it sounds you surrounded your own army with so many mines you can't move them.
Russia will retaliate by giving more weapons to Yemen and Iran. Russia could exterminate the whole Ukrainian population and the Jews running the Ukrainian state wouldn't give a shit
*you