This shit will be taught in schools as the start of the fall of the american Empire

This shit will be taught in schools as the start of the fall of the american Empire

Labels Trade deficit as Tariff

Place Tariff ON ALL GOODs from said countries based on said Deficit

If the 2025 Administration thought USA was not exporting enough, they are in for a rude awakening when the other countries start their own retaliatory tariff

If tariffs were a net negative on the country imposing them, no one would use them.

It's a really obvious point that no one seems to understand.

Libertarians are retarded and wrong on every point, free trade is a lie and has never existed. Every country is different, factories don't magic into existence overnight, and free wages can't compete with slave labor. Free trade with slave labor just turns everyone into slaves.

Every country should engage in more domestic production for everything. Free trade only benefits schlomo who owns those foreign factories and pays off the corrupt politicians.

So it's okay when they charge the US tarrifs though?

If tariffs don't work, why does every country have them against America?

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You're a faggot. This a weak action by Trump. China will be laughing that the tariffs Trump has created are half those China has on the USA. It'll be taught as part of the fall but not for the reasons you think.

If tariffs were a net negative on the country imposing them, no one would use them

it's a really obvious point people PRETEND to not understand.

nah its gonna work

then he'll raise them. china in particular is in the bulls eye. that 34% is also additive to existing tariffs. not the total tariffs on china goods.

its current outage of the week, notice weekly the outrage has changed

This is just like all your other failed talking points for demoralization. Utterly retarded.

women make less than men

why then aren't companies just hire women for their workforce?

They usually only have them on tiny sectors of their economy that they don't want to be crushed because, for example, not producing your own food quickly becomes a sovereignty issue. So the smaller nation will ask for that as part of the trade negotiation.
The US has no reason to ask for the same things as the smaller nation does. Like how men and women are different and want different things as part of the relationship. If you aren't a fucking tranny this is easy to understand.

That's fine and all, but have you seen what [INSERT TRANNY] did in [INSERT PLACE]???

Libertarians are retarded and wrong on every point,

They are literally the economic equivalent of Global Warming cultists. All of their theories are unfalsifiable. All of their predictions fail spectacularly (India and Brazil super power 2010!). And all of their proposed solutions just happen to punish only White people.

Oh and they're all Jews.

If tariffs were a net negative on the country imposing them, no one would use them.

Countries impose Target Tariff to specific Products After Trade Talk, Deal, understanding your own country productions and demands.
Canada has a Retarded as fuck Milk Tariff against USA, BUT only after certain Quota and SPECIFICALLY on MILK.
Canada DOES NOT have a "Everything from American, 40% Tariff" Cause THAT IS RETARDED. Even their retaliatory Tariff were Targeted.

USA DOES NOT have the means to replicate everything, Yet Trump put a tariff on Those things, meaning those product will simply go up in price when the tariff gets passed down to the consumer.

99% of OPs are baits, just like this one
all fields

can you not be retarded?

tell em what country has Blanket Tariff on "everything american". go on.

BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPP

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>Labels Trade deficit as Tariff

No, that is not what determined the tarrifs.
Are you a nigger?

I'm having so much fun
if US gets humiliated in south china sea on top of all this retardation I'm throwing a week long party and you are all invited

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humans can't make bad decisions and suffer for them

I changed my mind, I want WW3
you niggers need to get drafted and killed yesterday

The problem with this current crop of shills is that they are Mises Institute kikes who have to make their anti-tariff talking points palatable to the left. Good luck with that, fellas.

go die for your jews then faggot

I didn't voot for Trump but I kinda wish I had just so I could take partial credit for this stuff. He is doing so much damage to ZOG while trying to save it. This administration is just the dumbest and most corrupt golem flailing around

nah its gonna work

yeah, just like it did in the 1930s

All those are targeted Products, not blanket, it even say there what industries for, you fucking spatz

ok, enlighten me, what metric did Trump use to set his own Retaliatory Tariff??

Oh no, I'm draft dodging
you're the one who will start tying your own noose the second that fat retard tells you dying in china is a good thing

If tariffs were a net negative on the country imposing them, no one would use them.

If tariffs were a net positive on the country imposing them, everybody would use them. Why do you assume that they're good, just because you don't want them to be bad?

hmm is that a reasonable, intelligent response?

can't possibly be one of us, so must be a shill!

lol. lmao, even. Reminded me of those protestors you lot were saying were feds because they weren't obese.

How can people think these tariffs will work when Trump’s 2018 steel tariffs were a failure? They saved like 10,000 US steel production jobs at the expense of 72,000 jobs in industries reliant on steel as a result of increased costs

you jews are kvetching hard as fuck you are losing its epic. keep up my entertainment
not an argument spic

I'm actually fine with tariffs against shitholes that have poor labour and environmental laws that make it impossible for workers in the West to compete.
Tariffs from a smaller country protecting domestic food production also makes sense. If Japan has to buy all their rice from you and produce none of their own, that's obviously a problem.
Blanket tariffs are just fucking stupid. The US doesn't produce enough potash for your farmers. You're going to buy ours and pay and extra 10% now to the government. Why would you want that?

I'm draft dodging

Canada and Mexico wont take you. And you dont have the money to use "Bone Spurs" as a justification

I'm actually fine with tariffs against shitholes that have poor labour and environmental laws that make it impossible for workers in the West to compete.

Too bad these same people are gutting all of those Western regulations and importing shitskins to replace us. If you think the jews are genuinely trying to empower White workers then you are hopelessly dumb.

he can use biden "mentally unfit excuse" for deferments you jews need meat for the grinder eh, love you some wars

Tariffs have been going down all over the world. They sometimes make sense for a specific industry, not blanket ones though.

he can use biden "mentally unfit excuse" for deferments

You are still getting drafted, you are just not given training and get sent as front line meat shield.

wow you jews really want that war

Tariffs are so great. Brazil must really be paradise with its high tariffs, right Hernandez?

What same people? Trump is the one putting on the tariffs. I'm fine with them in some cases. What the fuck are you rambling about?

why not use the Swiss with their tariffs? you jews suck at this

Lolbergs were never "one of us". I'm a nationalist.

Does anybody else think it's weird how a Democrat who was saved from bankruptcy and irrelevance by Hollywood used his fame to catapult to the head of the Republican party and is now raising taxes in unprecedented levels?
And there's no pushback, he just lies about what tariffs are and how they work and now the Republicans defend and promote his blatantly flimsy lies?
Is the left going to do this everywhere? Just fucking take over the right wing and then harness it and use right wing tactics and rhetoric to defend itself as it raises taxes on people?
Like what the fuck is going on?

the average retard has the memory of a goldfish and cannot remember what happened over 4 years ago
its why we as a nation switch to the other team almost every election cycle

tariffs are not taxes, your carbon tax on your industry and people is a tax jew

As of January 1, 2024, Switzerland abolished tariffs on all industrial goods

lol taconigger.

It's functionally the same. When you buy something you are forced to also give the government money.
How is that any different from sales tax?

tariffs are not taxes

free wages can't compete with slave labor

You don't understand comparative advantage

ok jew your seething is noted

You lost, but will win anyway with that flag, unless you're an alien invader then you're going back.

leaf you get tariffed by india liike a bitch, does that mean you are losing to india? no it means you passed a carbon tax to help the chinks while increasing the prices of your goods, chinks don't have a carbon tax

Tariffs are not taxes at all. Taxes affect all things, not highly specific things made in other countries. Litterally don't buy something whose prices objectively increased and you will be fine. We have the technology of the internet, someone should make a site tracking prices

Targeted tariffs for specific industries work
But even then, that's mainly a geopolitical thing, not something that makes the country richer.

Litterally don't buy something whose prices objectively increased and you will be fine

You think USA companies wont increase prices to match the foreign stuff for extra quartery profits?

Its pretty obvious the guy is trying to cause an artificial recession so that the oligarchs that support him can scoop up every business they can get their hands on for pennies on the dollar before the economy recovers.
It's just 90s Russia with an extra step.

HOKEY POKEY

I'm so sorry for the birth complications.

he ended de minimis. I'm poor as fuck and my $5 aliexpress fan is now going to get $30..aka UN AFFORDABLE!!! So fuck this shit!

Tariffs don't work, Linus made a video about this.

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I think It's quite understandable who has the advantage

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Vietnam good until about a week ago. They dropped all their tariffs against us, and we did the same, and now we have a hundred percent free trade. That offer is on the table for every single country, but the problem is no one can do it because everyone that is currently doing.It relies on that to sustain their entire country, and it is part of their entire economy to leach off the united states america.

Good, fuck the empire. How bout we close the borders and kick all the fucking browns out? I'd be willing to take a huge hit to my standard of living to live in a HIGH TRUST SOCIETY ONCE AGAIN

Where does the Australia number come from? We have a trade surplus with them, and they don't institute a single tariff on any U.S product!?

I agree that the carbon tax is shit and was putting us at a disadvantage to please environmentalist faggots.
Now, if the government is taking your money does it matter to you if the government calls it a tax or a tariff?

in the modern era, tariffs are used to protect a country's interest. Free trade is not free, it is an exchange and only "free" from tariffs. China is trapped in an economy that can only exist through slave labor, so its not all roses.

Wow I guess we should just bend over and spread our asshole for the entire world to line up and fuck us then. Fuck borders and laws and fair trade and shit, we need to import more poos through an open border with no vetting while simultaneously sending all our jobs to the places the immigrants are coming from

Vietnam good until about a week ago

1) Vietnam doesnt have Blanket Tariff
2) The Cut it did WAS NOT to 0% you vapid FUCK.

tariff is not a tax shitjeet, You don't have to buy your china made products you do realize that right? a tax is mandatory like your carbon tax that is making you less competitive than china

It's functionally the same. When you buy something you are forced to also give the government money.
How is that any different from sales tax?

Developing countries today need this buffer to protect nascent industry—India’s GDP per capita is $2,500 (2024), Vietnam’s $4,300, vs. the U.S.’s $80,000. Trump’s team calls it unfair, but the U.S. enjoyed the same privilege when it was climbing.
Look up the GDP per capita for those countries.

This is bizarre beyond belief

i don't give a shit about jewish golems you care about

you people seriously think you're not seen on the world stage like absolute room temp IQ schizo retards. Don't you? I mean, for real

north north african opinion from its african mecca

Not gonna lie, former Trump voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Trump crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.

opinion from someone without a foreskin

Gilfoyle #1.

the importer pays the tax you idiot

nigger thinking about my BWC

so many cases of niggers being faggots its no wonder jew used them to destroy the surrender country

BWC

tiny white circumcised cock
i do not even think about you. when will you leave btw?

You think this was just some spur of the moment decision?
This was planned long ago, from the inception of the FED, them tightening into a recession after an era of loose monetary policy (Gee willickers, sounds like we're doing the same), to going off the Gold standard (Temporarily), to 2008's (QE is temporary).
We're just about at the end of the road.

Which is either you, or someone who then passes on that cost to you, dummy.

wow you niggers think about White cock a lot sounds like you faggots are not normal

You will never be a woman

calculadora

Hola!

no shitjeet, if the import cost is too high they go somewhere else. hard fucking hard is that understand?

Libertarians are just conservatives who don’t want to have to put their girlfriends in a child safety seat when they drive around

le white cock

the one with the foreskin yes?
the foreskin you don't have yes?
is it because, you are basically a jew? jenesequaoooo

Every country should engage in more domestic production for everything.

This is where I think the US is going to fuck up for the same reason the EU is fucked up.
The people in charge don't want to be the ones to say "hey we need to spend money to work on our own educations and industry" because that takes money out of big corpo hands for long term gains, and long term gains are not popular.

if they raise the price, I won't buy it. they'll either eat the cost or lower their trade barriers.

Tariffs are there to protect vulnerable industries. The government makes foreign goods arbitrarily more expensive to build up it's own capabilities. But this is mostly done by developing nations because most developed nations deal with services, not manufacturing. The US economy is mainly a service one, even China is going in that direction and it no longer really is the factory of the world that it was before.
There is literally nothing wrong with running a trade deficit, that's what developed nations do, they pay others to make stuff for them because they have the cash and others can make it cheaper. You are running a trade deficit every time you go to fucking Walmart.

I don't know what is there to brag about in slapping gigantic reciprocal tariffs on shitholes like Bangladesh that clearly need them for actual survival. That just looks like insecurity to me, is the US scared that Bangladesh has the capacity to destroy the US economy?

i get it nigger you want a cock pic, too bad nigger

It remains the case that there are not enough Americans to do all the world's manufacturing. There are 330 million of us (actually 230 million once you filter out blacks and Hispanics), and of the 60-70% or so that are actually of working age, almost all of us already have jobs, and those that don't won't get paid enough at those factories because those factories have to keep prices low to be able to sell globally, which means we'll have to import even more infinite jeets, spics, and bomalians to work those factories, which will make the cost of living even fucking higher, not lower.

He's right. You're wrong. This is fucking stupid. Trump is fucking stupid. Every last one of us that voted for this fucker was wrong, Kamala would have been a better choice, and I cannot fucking believe I have to say that anybody in the world is dumber than that blajeet bimbo.

jew flag

not reading that

Yeah, somewhere that costs more than the original place you were getting it.
Which may not even exist. You don't produce enough of your own potash so you will buy ours whether it is 10% more or not.

i love paying more

I can tell you don't pay for anything. You just want to see everyone suffer like your useless ass does.

Why does the Libertarian scare you schlomo?
I can see the shadow of your nose. Libertarians are irrelevant today, so why are you bashing them? are you afraid that you've finally realized that big Government daddy can't save us, Israel is exempt from the tariffs, or that these tariffs are literally trying to legislate wealth by taxing it's own citizens more so we can send it to Israel? Nice try Shekelberg but your nose is casting a long shadow.

I hope an illegal alien kills you

i want a cock pic,
but with a foreskin
can you oblige?
non?
why not
aha

Lmao you fucking retard, we're getting the browns AND the lower standard of living. Immigration will be pitched as a cure for stagflation...

And you will be happy!

i'll just not buy fertilizer for my farm

Not everything is like your fucking allowance money for a new video game.

While on paper you are 100% correct, we live in a world where those big money making nations don't reinvest into the education of their people to nor the building up of their nations to resist the influences of outside nations.
If the developed world acted as fortresses, then yes, tariffs would be a bad thing, but they act as the opposite, and as such there needs to be some kind of transitionary period until the appropriate changes can be made.

Tariffs don't work

Great. Have every country drop their tariffs against America then.

You literally have zero argument against this.

Almost nobody really had any against America you dumb fuck. These numbers are fucking made up. We have a free trade agreement with Canada where we pay on most goods fucking 0% tariffs either way.

You are a dumb nigger and you deserve to be raped by Israelis.

This was planned long ago,

long ago

aka one month ago when Trump was taking a shite

Almost nobody

Great.
Remove them all then.

Kek. Also true.

Japan is not going to let you destroy their domestic rice farming. It would become a sovereignty issue if they became reliant on someone else for food.

I thought tariffs were good because it encourages domestic manufacturing?

so tariffs work

the fall started with 9/11

it is a slow process, anon

we're negotiating our trade relationship, you weren't impacted by this settle down leaf

On a tiny sector of their economy that they don't want to be crushed because, for example, not producing your own food quickly becomes a sovereignty issue. So a smaller nation will ask for that as part of the trade negotiation.
The US has no reason to ask for the same things as the smaller nation does. Like how men and women are different and want different things as part of the relationship. If you aren't a fucking tranny this is easy to understand.

But I thought they dont work?

Without Trump everyone knew the status quo was untenable, before the tariffs Hedge funds were asking the FED to setup a bailout program for them (They will get it too) they are holding onto 11% of US treasuries. The world is awash with fiat debt and it's still not enough. This is why Central banks globally are buying Gold hand over fist.
This whole tariff thing is just the Straw that will break the camel's back, begin the Great Reset.

damn sounds like we should use more tariffs

shitjeet you again tax yourself to help china out

What is the endgame though?

We already negotiated our trade deal. Tariffs were part of that deal. Then Trump made up shit about fentanyl to stab us in the back and ignore his own deal that he called the best ever.
How the fuck are we supposed to trust you on any deal now?

the Great Reset.

This has been peddled for many years now so you'll have to forgive my skepticism.

see

this was planned long ago

proceeds to tariff an island full of penguins

stop outsourcing of businesses

start onshoring of businesses

raise revenues to pay down debt

raise enough to end income tax

it's just posturing for the USMCA review stop screeching like a european

Then so will everyone else. Then there is no more free trade. Enjoy paying more for everything.

Great.
Remove them all then.

Can't remove a tariff that doesn't even exist.

Broad tariffs like Trump is implementing do not work and drive up the costs of everything, yes. Targeted tariffs can be a matter of national security however, just like anon said

I thought tariffs were good because it encourages domestic manufacturing?

it may shock you but there never was any free trade, and countries already do you a lot of tariffs

only Trump's tariffs dont work

he has targeted tariffs too

We already covered this, bot. I agreed that the carbon tax is shit and was putting us at a disadvantage to please environmentalist faggots.

I mean they literally didn’t. His 2018 steel tariff only saved 10,000 US jobs at the expense of 72,000 domestic jobs reliant on steel as a result of increased prices

Source?

Tariffs on literally everything are dumb as SHIT. Do you think the US is able to produce coltan? What about the thousands of other specialty goods that make the world economy one (potash for canada being one of them)? You're just too fucking stupid to get it, and you'll suffer like the rest of us. You complained about Biden's inflation, this is going to be worse.

Read the fucking post next time.

becomes a sovereignty issue

No country will agree to that.

We're living through the collapse, it's just in slow motion. Just slow enough that normies don't really realize it. You think things are going to get better before it gets worse? If you consider real rate of inflation at 5-6% including food, energy, rent, insurance...then yes. It's not an outright collapse, but it's a slow burn of a collapse that's going to lead to a bigger crisis.

It remains the case that there are not enough Americans to do all the world's manufacturing

what about ours? or would that put dollar general underwater because they couldn't sell useless plastic garbage?

doesn't address the point

doesn't care

blind to the truth

you're a fucking tranny loving nigger. Worse than an SJW. You don't deserve to vote and I'm ashamed to share a country with you neckbearded faggots.

but then you reverted to tariff's are bad for us and good for them shitjeet.

Bro you need to check yourself into your local hospital for your diagnosis of terminal TDS

We had a free trade agreement.

already do you a lot of tariffs

Oh, you're some ESL shill. I see.

i cant see mexico in that list, i love america

Kek you won’t even be able to find people who will admit to voting for him soon.

Complete opposite of reality you tranny shill, the American empire fell at the start of the free Eera and when Carter gave up the Panama canal.

America is back starting TODAY. eat shit and die.

So you’re just not going to respond at all to the facts of the matter. I accept your concession then.

No, we don't have enough Americans to do all of our own manufacturing, either. Where do you think we're going to find more Americans to make shirts and blankets and door hinges and curtain rods and whatever other bullshit cheap items are required for daily life that you haven't stopped to think about in the last 20 fucking years?

Americans are the most consumeristic people on Earth so of course there is going to be a trade deficit

We compute that this amounts to about 75,000 fewer jobs in manufacturing attributable to the March 2018 tariffs on steel and aluminum

likely have resulted in 75,000 fewer manufacturing jobs

compute

likely have

lol

There is a difference between using selective tariffs to protect your industries and blanket tariffing everything. No country is doing what Trump is doing because it’s economic suicide kek.

I didn't revert to anything, bot. My point has been consistent.
There are situations where a country will want tariffs to protect a specific industry, for reasons of sovereignty for example. They will negotiate that as part of a deal, like USMCA for example.
If the choice is free trade on 99% of things, or tariffs on 100% of things, why the fuck would you choose tariffs on 100% of things?
Unless the other country has slave labour or something which puts them at huge advantage over your workers, it makes not fucking sense.

time to pay up pussies.

its ok shijteet you already fumbled and lost

Where’s a counter source that disproves that? I’ll wait.

automation, you are lazy fucks, manufacturing pajeet is horse shit and you know it, thats why boeing is almost death

made a typo

It's... it's over. As punishment I'll compliment Canada.
Canada seems like a really nice place to fish.

What blows me away is he is showing the tarrifs placed on the US right there, and people are still acting like we are the asshole.

Truuuueee. Just like if printing money were a net negative on the country doing it, no one would do that. :^)

Violating the deals you sign is not posturing.

Well said.

the start of the fall of the american Empire

We have $38 TRILLION in debt faggot. We spent the last 20 years fighting meaningless wars that cost us $14 TRILLION.

And you think that now? Is the beginning of the end?

Oy vey! You called them out! Y-You must be fat and obese!

Kek.
Imagine saying "you lot" with regards to this board while trying to argue that you're NOT an offsite shill.
Retarded tranny.

Please tell me how this improves the lives of Americans at all. If you're not employing Americans to do the job anyway, you may as well just let the fucking chinks do it, or the jeets, or the spics, it has the same impact, you're only enriching the owner of the factory, which will just be either the CCP or Blackrock.

suddenly start using capitalization and punctuation

lol this shill bumped it up to his supervisor.

And you think that now? Is the beginning of the end?

We Pretended we were working to fix it, NOW is straight "I have no idea what im doing"

While Canada is crying and screeching like the women who run the EU, Mexico is actually being serious and talking with the US like grown ups.
I genuinely figured it'd be the opposite.

Yeah yeah, you're done. I accept your concession. Better luck next time, kid.

The Tariff tax on all of us begins now,
The clock starts now, if the process of onshoring doesn't begin across the board, wages rise, cost of living goes down, inflation tamed...
Then the Democrats are going to walk right into the WH next election. We could've started with something a little easier like Ending the FED and reducing regulations. If this whole Tariff thing goes south, Trump will be blamed not only for the tariffs, but the delayed recession, and the failings of a fiat monetary system. A perfect scape goat.

Everyone look, OP is crying again! This won’t be taught in the public school your dumb ass went to I can tell you that. If only the public schools you went to weren’t run by gay illiterate liberals or maybe if you went to a private school you would understand that what you’re typing itt is retarded and wrong. You lost so open up and suck daddy’s balls for the next 4years.

Did you genuinely think that a shitty canned response like that would be believable too? LMFAO fucking glowniggers.

Tarrifs are about as close to a flat tax as we are likely to get in our lifetimes.

What has been the impact of steel tariffs on jobs in these industries thus far? Estimates from a study released in December by Aaron Flaaen and Justin Pierce at the Federal Reserve Board of Governors show that by mid-2019, increased input costs due to the steel and aluminum tariffs are associated with 0.6 percent fewer jobs in the manufacturing sector than would have been the case without the tariffs. We compute that this amounts to about 75,000 fewer jobs in manufacturing attributable to the March 2018 tariffs on steel and aluminum, not counting additional losses among U.S. exporters facing tariffs other countries levied in retaliation.

Really not a great source. It's a double indirect calculation of "job losses" compared to a hard "job increase" statistic from actually counting the number of jobs.

Plus they don't actually show their methodology for calculating how a 0.6% estimate (with no error bars) equates to 75k jobs less.

Unless you want to read and understand and figure out how to explain the Federal Reserve report they link to in that section, you probably shouldn't use that as a a source, because the obvious next question is "okay show me the 75k jobs that were lost, gimme a list", which doesn't exist at all.

revamp all legacy american trademarks, westinghouse, ibm, mcdonnell douglas, frigidaire, shit i can say alot of proud american brands that were erased, just choose trump for another period and make him sign a compromise to recreate all the rustbelt but with automation, you already have the technology and software, and that would not take decades, that shit would take just 5 years if you really want to do it, because you own all the fucking technology already

Yeah but I have assets and I want those assets to be more valuable. I want to maximize by buying power. Did you forget about me?

oh wow 1 fat beaner deported!
When are mass deportations?
ICE stopped posting deportation numbers because they were so low and people were pointing out theyre on track for less than 1 million over the next 4 years.

See the problem with retards like you, is that you dont have a clue what you are talking about. Tariffs have been in constant decline for decades. If they were truly working, this wouldnt be the case. All it does is make things more expensive for the consumer. Tariffs dont benefit the populace, they benefit the greedy kikes at the top and let them remain the robber barons they are.

So you do support tariffs, just not when the US does it? Just want you to be clear.
Either you support tariffs but not when the US does it or you don't support tariffs and should agree with Trump wanting others to lower theirs.

t. groyper retard

Even the tariff % on the USA can be tweaked. Meet Kevin goes into the weeds just a bit and it's how you want to measure the tariffs.
However, know this. The guy behind all of this tariff stuff is (((Howard Lutnick))), now do you trust him?

see

If tariffs were a net negative on the country imposing them, no one would use them.

It's a really obvious point that no one seems to understand.

It really isn't. Bosnia for example was listed as having a 70% import tax, so now the US tax on stuff from Bosnia is 35%, which is disinformation really. Bosnia doesn't have a 70% tax on American goods. He calculated in VAT, which is an internal tax on all sales, Bosnian goods included. Of course, something that is from the US is gonna get the VAT too, so he added this to an import tax and then added the internal sales tax beyond VAT to it. Then he added the actual import tax on it too. This is why he halved the "total sum" because he is misrepresenting it to begin with, but what he did do is counter VAT + import tax combined. All he's going to do is boost domestic placement or trade channeling through low tariff economic partners of the target country.

The choice is simple my dude: buy American and support our economy, or pay more money helping reduce the deficit.

Plus they don't actually show their methodology for calculating how a 0.6% estimate (with no error bars) equates to 75k jobs less.

The article cites a Federal Reserve study that estimates a 0.6% reduction in manufacturing jobs due to steel tariffs. If U.S. manufacturing employment at the time was around 12.5 million jobs, a 0.6% reduction translates to approximately 75,000 jobs lost. Economic impact studies frequently rely on statistical modeling rather than case-by-case enumeration.

big countries wanting to protect domestic production is bad but when small countries do it it's good

ok lol

buy American

How do i buy a product that america doesnt even produce

Yea the professional corporate shill for Chinese semiconductor shit is exactly where I want to source my opinions on economic policy.

Youre jewish

Japan can't produce enough rice to damage your domestic production.

shitskin MIGAmutts can't do anything except post decade old memes

The US produces nothing because the jews that own this country consider it an insult against themselves to pay 1st world wages.

companies that piece together a car from outsourcing the parts to a bunch of countries, then assemble it somewhere else, then import it can do enough damage to our domestic car manufacturing.

decade old

yet you freaks are still mindbroken

Does anybody else think it's weird how a Democrat who was saved from bankruptcy

This is your brain on Reddit history.

I'm in the market for an FPV digital drone cam and VTX, American companies don't even focus on that niche and if I can find something that does it's atleast double to triple the price and it's more geared toward industry. So in the end I'm just going to buy the Chinese camera and pay the tax on it. Unless your Uncle or someone you know opens up a factory and starts building that shit within a few months cheaper than the tariff tax, I'll buy from you. But the most likely outcome is...I buy the same chinese shit, but pay more tax.

Yeah, that would fall under

I'm actually fine with tariffs against shitholes that have poor labour and environmental laws that make it impossible for workers in the West to compete.

It's not a blanket tariff.

Fuck you Jew

He's also calling trade deficits tariffs.

FREE TRADE WITH SLAVE LABOR JUST TURNS EVERYONE INTO SLAVES.

Thank you my nigga, the world needs to fucking hear this shit and understand it. They need to hear this sentence every day, a 100 times a day, till they fucking die.

but pay more tax

Which will, of course, be given to israel.

Why does Trump tax Japan more than he taxes EU? Was his whole friendship with Abe just a lie, too?

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Now the reason why tarffis are a negative is because the US combines high labor costs, high operating costs in terms of meeting precautions to avoid lawsuits and high state taxes, on top of a largely inept work force that is demographically challenging and the requirement to open a production facility in the first place. Trump is expecting his move to bring manufacturing back home, but that's not going to happen due to the aforementioned + the fact that the US no longer has a stranglehold on many technologies it used to have a stranglehold on in the past. This applies to the EU too, but the EU isn't blind to it. 70 years ago China was an agrarian country only starting to industrialize. Now it can satisfy its domestic market with everything it needs. Trump is making the average US citizen pay for the greed of his billionaire buddies, who have sent technologies and workplaces overseas, turning the US industry into exclusively a military industry, while everything else went into being a service-based economy, while the military is meant to intimidate foreign countries into taking care of US investments abroad. IF he kept the US military protection umbrella up everywhere he previously did, these tariffs would work because the rest of the cucked Western world would rather pay a tariff than invest into its military as its unpopular in the next election cycle, but he managed to single-handedly hand the US both an economic L and hand future EU, Canadian, Far East politicians a W whenever they campaign on military independence, essentially de-Dollarizing themselves, making it EVEN HARDER to service the US debt as nobody is buying it, while simultaneously gathering less taxes into US coffers as the purchases will dwindle due to import tariffs. It's literally the worst thing ANYONE in the US could do for the US. Now if this was done slowly over a couple decades it could potentially work.

dont worry - the disingenuous faggots, actual ignorant underage b&, and seething trannoids will say you are wrong without trying to explain how because they cant

Trump has done the targeted tariffs on specific industries, and then the reciprocal tariffs.
Things like semiconductors, cars, steel, aluminum, etc have their own specific tariffs separate from the reciprocal ones.
Japan is very protectionist, which is their right and I support.

Europe and non-Chinese east Asia are using slave labor

Why does Trump tax Japan more than he taxes EU? Was his whole friendship with Abe just a lie, too?

No man, he's not TAXING THEM. He's TAXING US for buying FROM THEM.
We just got across the board tax increase on stuff we buy from foreign countries.

you are getting the worst of both worlds, the communist manufacturing and post-capitalism

the founding fathers employed tariffs and making foreign countries pay a tax on foreign goods thats tax revenue and if the prices of foreign goods goes up as a result good that incentivizes people to buy american and that creates jobs we cannot be a service based economy that doesnt work long term we have to go back to producing goods and tariffs work to that end

tariffs are good when you want to protect your national sovereignty but the USA should not do that

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Why doesnt he work with the senate he controls and actually try to fix it?

they are amigo
so is the US now

I'm fine with all of this, but then abolish the income tax. Here's my gripe, we just get more fucking taxes, how about abolishing the income tax to offset the tariff tax? I bet my left testicle this does not happen, so in the end, just more taxes, inflation is also a stealth tax and we're getting wrecked.

Lol, now do the one about you guys taking Greenland.

The targeted ones I am obviously fine with and have posted as much several times now.
The "reciprocal" ones are the stupid ones. Other countries are never going to risk their ability to produce food domestically.
You can either accept that, for example, Canada will protect its dairy industry and we can trade 99% of shit for free. Or you can put tariffs on 100% of stuff and everyone pays more.
The US has zero concerns about Canadian dairy undermining your industry. So you don't ask for that as part of deals. We do have that concern. So we will ask for it as part of deals. We are not the same. If you want free trade with us then you'll need to understand that. Or we can all just pay more for everything.

Yeah I saw that lol he is ignoring the fact that the reason why the US is in a deficit across many industries is because the US economy was tailored around a strong military industry, military policing/protection globally and its digital and online services, while in return getting its foreign investments and profits protected. His view isn't entirely wrong, but he is so blinded by his own ego and the majesty of "the cards that he holds" that he is blind to the long-term fallout of all of this. There will be pain in the short term, but the true pain is a long-term one where countries develop their own defense industries and slowly de-Dollarize their trade, making it even harder to service US debt.

They sure are you stupid fucking retard but go ahead and stick your head in the sand.

What do you mean? Congress is for writing laws. If you don't need a new law to do something, there's no need to go to the Congress.

or you can just become a state. you only get 2 electoral votes, though

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Here's my gripe, we just get more fucking taxes,

its not a tax, the foriegn nations pay the tariffs and its tax revenue, foreign manufactures MAY choose to raise their prices as a result and the increased price on the consumer can be characterized as a tax but it isnt and increasing the costs of foreign goods and services is literally what this country needs because americans will choose the cheeper american made option and that gives people manufacturing jobs again, this country wont make it if manufacturing doesnt return and this is the only logical way to make that happen without dramatically lowering wages.

It is impossible for any other country to wipe out your corn industry. The high fructose corn syrup will always flow, burger. You are not trans-minor-nation. You are a super power. You do not want and should not be asking for the same things as us in a deal. You also must accept that minor powers have sovereignty concerns that must be addressed if you want free trade deals at all. You can either accept that, or pay more for everything.

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to many jews in the congress lobbying in favor of miga

This is all part in parcel to the war they have planned. That they know they will win too

So to all the sky is falling goobers. Just stfu. Youre never right. You add nothing of value to anything so really stfu

Its bad enough being ruled over by war maniacs but to have to endure the simpletons who cant just accept it all and say oh well ...it really makes life loathesome. Let us enjoy this hell ffs without a meaningless lecture you espouse for some form of mental masturbation. Goon to cuck porn like the rest of us

Also, the entire reason the Canadian dairy industry needs protection from ours is because we subsidize the hell out of it. And we do so for the exact same purpose of securing our domestic food production.

They're not sending their best are they?

The dudes completely lost it.

Thanks for helping reduce the deficit!

Tariffs are just sales taxes. Nothing more. All the bitching from the Left about them is faggot hysteria.

Could you please show me these Japanese and Swiss slaves?

its in response to most of these countries talking massive shit about the u.s., about how many of them were abusing USAIDS, and over the decades devaluing their own currency in relation to the u.s. so they export far more and reduce imports. basically they get to sell a bunch of shit and spend very little with the other country

its not a tax, the foriegn nations pay the tariffs and its tax revenue

Who lied to you? is this what people still believe? all you have to do is look up what a tariff is on chatgpt for free.

"Tariffs are fees imposed by a government on imported goods, paid by the importer—typically a company in the importing country, not the foreign nation itself."

What the fuck do you care? You gave us paper for oil.

Nobody will open a dairy factory in the US, to have Tyrone, Shaniqua and Venezuelano Lopez work in it for a salary that is 2-3x the domestic one, while being fined out of the ass with US lawyers and their common law waiting in a hallway to file a lawsuit. High tarffis mean high prices for imported product on the domestic market and low purchase volume, in turn resulting in less taxes collected. I unironically think he wants to economically destroy the West because military might will then only be a factor to consider and that's one thing the US have, but I think he is overestimating the national zeal of the average American who values the ability to consume more than to militarily coerce the world into giving billionaires a quick oil drilling ground.

We agree then. Tariffs are good for the country imposing them.

Well I think WE ALL can agree.
We're about to find out real quick.

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you already have the fucking answer for your problems, tax the shit out of everyone who wants to make bussines with america or nuke them, get back and make a reverse globalism like fucking citigroup did the last decade and fuck everyone else

1930's

Sounds like a good time to me.

in about, I would theorize, two more weeks

high priced foreign cars only the rich buy will have to pay $1000 more

oh no!

you are right that its directly imposed on the importers but it ends up being a tax on foriegn nations in the form of lost revenue, regardless its literally the only thing that will change us from a "service based" economy which absolutely doesnt work to a manufacturing society again, and i literally cant think of another way to do it that doesnt involve slashing wages stateside to compete with foreign labor

No. You don't get it.
It's not good or bad. Limited use of tariffs is pretty much unavoidable.
Going full retard and imposing tariffs on everything in an effort to have that final 1% of tariffs removed from all deals is doomed and will only have plebs paying more for everything.

You do not want and should not be asking for the same things as us in a deal.

We should not want the same benefits of trade that you get?

You can either accept that, or pay more for everything.

Deal.

No, because the benefits they have are not benefits we care about, otherwise we wouldn't be giving to them in the first place. We want different benefits that they don't care about. That's what trade is.

It's shock and awe trade policy. Canada and Mexico were already talking before this, the UK wants a trade deal, the aussies are close to a deal, and the EU will come to the table because of the auto tariffs; same thing with the Asians for different reasons.
I'm a big Trump supporter of course but all the tariffs on literally who african countries and small island nations are just filler to fill out the shock and awe wave.

You have the benefit of your domestic food production not being threatened by default. We have no way to threaten it.
If you want to blow up the free trade on the 99% of things we have it on in a futile attempt to get the tariffs removed on the 1% of stuff we have it on all that will happen is you will pay more.

We have our own dairy industry. And it's a perfect example of the actual way of going about what trump claims he's trying to do. We give substantial subsidies to dairies so that they can sell their products at a price Americans will be willing to pay. Essentially, we pay for the milk in our taxes so normalfags don't have to see the price tag. If our jewish government stopped handing out money to everyone but Americans, we could give big grants and subsidies to start up/revitalize our own semiconductor or steel or whatever else industries and still be saving money. And all without pricing out the American working class from buying anything like with these tariffs.

Tarrifs work to protect national industry

broad tarrifs don't work to protect broad national industy because drumpf did them

OMG YEAASSSS SLAY QUEEN BERNIE IS GOING TO CREATE A BROAD TARRIF ON MEXICO TO PROTECT U.S. WORKERS

Jews mad

You dumb ass, the person behind all these tariffs and the % amount is (((Howard Lutnick)))
Jews happy

trump and elon are such cucks if they want to save money they can look at the billions israel going to israel by hook and crook but they are shills

Trade deficits are tariffs.

Why shouldn't every country on Earth just get together and embargo us? It would only takes about 12 minutes to get this shit reversed and there is no one that would not benefit from doing it.

trust the plan

Trump is used to negotiating with faggot corporations, not nation states with concerns about sovereignty. There are certain things which are non-negotiable. As shocking as that might be.

Canada and Mexico were already talking before this, the UK wants a trade deal, the aussies are close to a deal, and the EU will come to the table because of the auto tariffs; same thing with the Asians for different reasons

What if it goes in a different direction though? Countries won't want to deal with the bullshit that Trump is bringing to the table right now and instead make deals with other countries instead of America.

They'd be retarded. The start of the fall of the American Empire was detente with China under Nixon and subsequent free trade agreements combined with military overstretching follow 9/11.

We're the biggest consumer market in the world.
Who are they going to sell their overpriced shit to? Africa?
Trump isn't asking for 0% tariffs, just a small reduction to allow more US products into your countries to enable the promotion of more US based manufacturing which would induce job creation. Your country and Mexico wouldn't even help on the border without the threat of tariffs ffs. This is the way it has to be.

Yup I think you hit the nail right on the head. This is exactly what is happening.

It was actually when jews and the jew adjacent brought over african slaves so that they could cut costs and outcompete smallholders.

Probably because they don't want their poorer country to get crushed by bigger producers selling some GMO shit that is cheaper because it needs less fertiliser and because their country is poorer and their government can get some revenue from tariffs. Because they don't have Google and Microsoft getting money off datamining the whole world

Anon, we barely have any tariffs. NAFTA and USMCA were good deals for both of us. Your border with Mexico is fucked, but unironically the bullshit about fentanyl from Canada was made up so Trump could bypass congress using some law from the 70s. The border was and is doing just fine.

if tariffs are bad then all these countries should drop their tariffs on america and the tariffs on them will be dropped. it's a simple fix.

the first part of that post wasn't about canada, the border stuff was.
the border was absolutely NOT fine, and, again, the fent stuff with canada was about the precursors. but if you were paying attention those tariffs never got put into place because Canada (and Mexico fwiw) worked with us.
other tariffs did though lol

Beware of the USMCA which was fully CFR backed. It's a high chance it sets in motion a North American Union, I think what we're seeing now with all this global trade tit for tat will ultimately lead us to that point.

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Well first of all, China alone has substantially more buying power now than they did even just a few years ago. And that trend is true across the board in every country we've outsourced labor to. But the actual answer is that they'll sell to us. After we've buckled and been forced to sign trade deals where we pay them for the privilege of letting us buy from them. It cannot be overstated how how retarded it is to create a situation in which the only objectively correct move is for every country on Earth to cut you off and starve you out.

amazing, he actually used the trade deficit as "tariffs charged to the USA"

why are people bitching about this? it's a way to standardize it.

because trade deficit has nothing to do with tariffs? in what world does this make any sense?

did you want a 30% tariff instead of 20%?

lol we were talking about Canada and you replied to me, but okay. Whatever then.
Anon, you have your own ports. They just bring precursors in there.
We bought some helicopters. About the only thing Trump got that wasn't already offered in December before he was in office was us naming some guy the fent Czar. It was all just a big ring kissing show.

Tariffs are usually done in limited fields for limited goals, not on all goods

i want a 1000% tariff so that it finally forces us to decouple completely from the US. you won't be able to afford our exports after the dollar crashes anyway.

poor guy, i can imagine his desperate attempt to save not only his own country but the entire white race, hopefully someday in austria will born another based guy to free us from this kike dictatorship.

How about we don't get into trade wars with Western aligned, 1st world, White countries?

you made cartels terrorist organizations too and committed funding to securing it

About the only thing Trump got that wasn't already offered in December

in response to tariff threats lol

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Western aligned, 1st world, White countries

tariffs are paid for by the consumer!

That's pure propaganda. The reality is that tariffs indeed cause costs to rise to the point that there ARE NO CUSTOMERS. So export-based economies must either lower their prices for the United States or find themselves totally demolished by a lack of revenue.

That's reality.

Way ahead of you, Israel isn't on the list of tariffed Countries.

Holy fucking based.

chinese exports to the US total about 435b… exports to HK about 250b… japan 169b… etc, sort of going on like that until it’s clear they don’t depend on the US for that much anymore. i don’t think they’d be hurting if the US slowed down imports, they should’ve done this a decade ago if they wanted to hurt china.

There aren't really winners in the short-mid term. It's a war of attrition, no one really wins, it's who loses less. Economic activity contracts across the board, the citizens of all nations suffer because they have to pay higher prices for things. The hope is onshoring will fix all the problems, if the onshoring is even successful. There's also that chance that no onshoring occurs because costs cannot be passed on and you just have less choice of what you want to buy.

Yeah, some paper exercise. Great. Fuck the Cartels anyway.
There was already 1.3 billion offered in December.
Yeah, I'm not arguing that threatening the tariffs didn't get us to spend money. Just that like 60lbs of fentanyl or whatever the fuck is not a real emergency. It was just an excuse for Trump to use emergency powers.
I'm happy with border security being improved, but it was never about that anyway. That was just a happy accident.

Huh? So it's literally "rules for me but not for thee?" That sounds retarded and something that naturally a spineless faggot canadian "person" would yearn for.
Seems like, once again, you lost. lol

Well yea clearly lol. It did work though.

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I think AI and robotics are a bigger threat to jobs/the economy than tariffs. This is the fucking giant elephant in the room that no one's paying attention to. Everyone gets distracted by the headline of the day whether its signal gate, tariffs and they ignore the rapid progress robots are making, its gonna blindside everyone

Even with AI/robotics, manufacturing coming back to the US would add more jobs than continuing to allow it to be outsourced and offshored.

Every other country uses targeted tariffs to protect the industries that they have. Like we do with Chinese cars. NOBODY USES BLANKET TARIFFS BUT TRUMP.

It worked in that Trump got his emergency powers based on lies because the Republicans in your congress are too cucked to challenge him on his bullshit.

aifaggotry will destroy us in 10 years. These tariffs will do it in 6 months.

yes, to protect their industries you brian dead maga faggot. the US has tariffs on china so they don't flood the US market with cheap imports like EVs and electronics and clothes. it is SIMPLE ECON IF YOU ARE NOT FUCKING RETARDED

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The fucking retards are considering our consumer sales tax as a fucking tariff.

This is so retarded on so many levels

The GOP is too cucked to do literally anything because they're lazy bought and paid for faggots.

Yeah, exactly.
Tariffs are not one single number, there's a whole fricking book of them, each different per category of product.
Which is not something you can present to the normie audience, it's way above their heads.
So they found this cartoonish way to make it look like 'look they're treating us so unfairly but that's it, we're striking back, we're so based'.

you just have less choice of what you want to buy.

This is the inevitable answer.
People are just going to starve and the homeless population is going to double while the wealthy buy even more super yachts.

my state has a 9% tariff on zambia according to trump math

Yeah, enjoy King Trump and his imperial line I guess.

Who cares.
There's way more uncertainty right now about the future than the average economic theory.

zoomers and liberals, and I guess some foreigners who weren't paying attention, forget Trump ran against BOTH parties in 2016, then took over the GOP's infrastructure. GOP voters were tired of neocons and """free traders""" and have been voting them out since 2016. We still have work to do.
I hate the GOP and Democrat parties.

this whole concept that having a trade deficit is unfair to them is absurd. think about what it means, we are sending them products and they are not sending anything in exchange other than green paper that they print for free. and they want that to end? they want to stop getting shit for free? ok then, let's stop using the dollar as the trade currency, no need to be nice to the US anymore.

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I think we are already starting to see fractures. Trump's entire thing right now depends on the GOP staying utterly united because of their slim majority and I think we are starting to see a shift because some of them are realizing the effect this will have on their home states.

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Pay for nato.

trump is the based outsider man

Everyone knows. Giving him extraordinary powers based on obvious bullshit is still not a great idea.

trump is a jew puppet who exists for no other reason than to hijack and discredit right wing populism.

yea bro we should totally vote for nick fuentes or some other gay zoomer eceleb who knows better
they always do this
the two women are always uppity, rand is a lolbertarian, and mcconnell is butthurt about being kicked out of leadership because he's a neocon ghoul

presidents since bush have been finding ways to act executively because congress is useless.
our country is run by the executive and judicial branches.

There is no NATO, US military bases in Europe are here for Israel supply lines, not for us

Trump grabbed the idiots from the Republicans and all the fucking unthinking hicks who never would have voted otherwise. He's not a revolution of the republican party he's the redneck revolution.

I think that the Jews pushed the idea of free trade soon after slavery was abolished as a workaround. Then not satisfied with that they started pushing open borders and mass migration to drive down wages for the remaining jobs.
They really need to be erased as a people for the sake of humanity. They are the primary cause of all war and misery.

Supposedly it was built by men who hated kings and tyrants. One would assume that it was made a certain way for a reason.
If you let it become more and more like something else then don't be surprised if you end up with the thing that it was built to avoid.

Same as Covid

Our financial issues are entirely due to kikes an their pet shitskins. Illegalize the stock market and lending banking, with a one time payout to all those invested. Switch to a patron system which has been proven to work via the internet. If a capitalist wants to build a factory have him open an account with details regarding his business model, if enough people think its a god investment they support him. He pays them out a flat amounted stipulated by how much they paid in if he is successful.

Speculation: dead. Inflation and Deflation: impossible due to the amount of money being effectively fixed. Grifters and Kikes on suicide watch. Simplify everything so that even a retard can follow market indicators and all investment is direct meaning that people will be be highly accountable and personally interested in specific ventures which they support for reasons beyond even the monetary for example a town investing heavily in a factory in that town providing both a profit and a circular economy in what that down benefits from the success of the business.

you have never been more unpopular you yuppie freak. no one likes you deranged faggots and are approaching journalist levels of approval.
you support illegal migration, transitioning of children, soft on crime, less freedom, more government, and everything people don't want; no one cares what you think LOL

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The intention is for non-U.S. countries to make less money by providing us with cheap goods. "Everyone wins!" isn't a goal of capitalism.

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Can you please just go and die for israel already?

the checks and balances built into the constitution still thrive even when one branch is absent due to laziness. that's why there's constant stories about the courts checking trump.
it used to be the fucking congress would pass a law supporting or rejecting a president's idea, which was then checked by the courts. now the president acts and the court checks him; while congress just has fundraisers so they stay in power.

you're not getting the world war you want so you can kill white men :)

The court can only check him so much. It's not going to send anyone to fight the Secret Service if Trump decides to ignore a ruling. Your system relies on norms and customs as much as anything else. Being the outsider Trump doesn't give a shit about those.

wants to restore American industry

won't invest in American industry

won't do anything about outsourcing, or visas

just take ore out of Americans' pockets

Enjoy communism, retard

Budget is literally LAW (Passed as Law)

1000 People poll

Man, Poling in USA is sooo trash.

Man this place has to to just ban trump shill zone no one replied to you.

all the polls showing liberals are at an all time low approval rating are LIBERAL polls.
here's CNN lmfao

I didnt say what poll, I said POLLS Overall, 1000 People is fucking nothing (double down if they at least show polling area or methodology)

You can thank Trump for bringing them back, just like liberals in Canada

I can't wait to see what wild shit Trump does to say in power next election

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