Didn't vote for Trump because "Trump would sell out Ukraine to start more wars for Israel"

Didn't vote for Trump because "Trump would sell out Ukraine to start more wars for Israel"

Voted for Kamala solely because she was more "normal" and would "keep supporting Ukraine"

Why is he so adamant about fighting Russia?

He says what his fednigger handlers tell him to say.

He knows he's poison

he doesn't believe what he's saying, he's just filling a void to promote white nationalism to a broader audience.
something like a devil's advocate

if people want to use our weapons to fight russia then that is good and their intended purpose for being manufactured in the first place

Zero idea about your edrama but with all the illegitimate institutions involved I think its time to call it quits

Fedjacketing is the most low IQ retardation on the internet. You faggots call everyone a fed, which makes no sense.
He's been saying the same shit since 2016, when Obama controlled the feds, then he was saying the same shit in 2020, when Trump controlled the feds, then he was saying the same shit in 2024, when Biden controlled the feds, and he's saying the same shit now, when Trump controls the feds.

So unless there's some magic, undestroyable federal department dedicated to controlling "racist livestreamers", you're a fucking idiot.

hes been replaced by nick and they use the same exact script

Nick didn't support Kamala, nor does he support Ukraine. In fact he also supports Trump's populism just because it's chaotic and pushes boundaries, which was an explicit reason Spencer said he was NOT voting for Trump.

same shit since 2016

The fedniggers have been pissed at Russia since 2013-14 when Russia intervened to try and stop the US backed Jihadists from taking over Syria. So your objection is pointless. Spencer has been controlled op for over a decade giving milquetoast pro-white talking points while ushering idiots into supporting the EU and getting people mad at the FEDnigger's enemies.

You can see one of the many gullible idiots right here.

Thank you fednigger, very informative.

But he did the "Russia is our friend!" chant. Was that just to help promote the Russian ties investigation hoax to try to take down Trump?

Pseudo-intellectuals every so often have to support a mindless war with high casualties just to show how intelligent and mature they are. To be unconcerned about the senseless deaths of hundreds of thousands of people shows how mature you are.
To be concerned either makes you childish, or it shows that you have a connection with the pawns on the battlefield, which shows that you have pawn-mentality, whilst Spencer, who casually sacrifices the pawns, has king mentality.

He had a bust up with his wife who was a dugin shill I think

Kamala winning wouldn't have been that bad. It would have hurt everyone, but it would hurt zionist conservatards more than the alt-right. It might have actually benefited the alt-right in the long run.

who else would we fight? who else would we need to defend ourselves from? china? india? canada?
the only enemy on earth is russia. we arm ourselves to defend against them.

He used to be funded by the kremlin and his wife was an FSB trophy wife.

Source?
Last time I checked she was just into dugin no actual shilling going on

it'd continue to completely ethnically replace whites. We had over 100k hispanics flood the country

Why is he so adamant about fighting Russia?

guy showed up on the alt-right when Hillary was up for election

ginned up far right protests that activated the left

became a Hillary talking point

Then Hillary loses the election

he vanishes

drops all his positions and goes to the left

hmmm I really think he might be a Fed you guys

This was once he started glazing socialism a bit after trump became president plus he was still in contact with that other fat guy that became orthodox christian and nowadays is a communist (can't remember his name only that he was fat and was wearing glasses and shilled orthodoxy).

heimbach?

The fedniggers have been pissed at Russia since 2013-14 when Russia intervened to try and stop the US backed Jihadists from taking over Syria. So your objection is pointless. Spencer has been controlled op for over a decade giving milquetoast pro-white talking points while ushering idiots into supporting the EU and getting people mad at the FEDnigger's enemies.

Is there somewhere I can read such a non-western view on geopolitics? Al-jazeera? something chinese & translated?

You really need someone to spoonfed you this shit?

heimbach

yep Matthew Heimbach it was. Honestly russia really did a number on the mericans back in the day (maybe even today who knows).

An insane "white supremacist" trying to lead his followers to vote for kamala harris is literally the feddest fed shit you could ever think up

We had over 100k hispanics flood the country

This isn't a real problem. The border situation is already too bad to recover. Anyone telling you otherwise isn't being pragmatic. What Whites really need is freedom of association (the right to discriminate). At a certain point there simply won't even be anymore spics left to mass immigrate into the US. And Whites would maintain power over the important things like our industrial and engineering base anyways. That's why the idea of Trump annexing Mexico is acceptable in the first place, because we already ARE Mexico.
Spencer is literally obsessed with hamburgers and Brooklyn NY.
Heimbach never mattered outside of crippling Spencer. Also he got kicked out of the EO church lol

You know who actually ran the feds? Hillary Clinton, the same people that raked Trump over the coals for supposed Russian collusion and who organized the Ukraine coup.
Spencer is just an arm of the Clinton political machine since that cunt was so unlikeable only ginning up a nazi threat could make her look palatable

oh shit

I agree that excessive fedjacketing is retarded, but if you think the feds do 180s every 4 years like that you are not much smarter.

The border situation is already too bad to recover.

I've seen the numbers.
The birthrates of hispanics are only a tad higher than whites. When they immigrated their birthrates crashed. As such, the ethnic situation for whites would be relatively stable, if only the border was closed.
If you closed the borders, and fiddled around with economic policy to engineer a white birthrate, it's a salvageable situation.

You're talking about this from the perspective of maintaining growth of raw population numbers rather than maintaining homogeneity, which is the same point I'm making. We agree.

So you agree we should pressure Russia to end the war? Maybe a special little operation on Moscow?

Same reason you're so adamant about fighting Iran
Jews

One thing I have noticed is that ethnically pure groups nucleate around religion. You wanna see whites being born, it's the Mormons and the Amish. I've been to a church in my local area, and I've never seen so many white kids before.
It makes me believe that for an ethnic population to exist, religion is the key. It's just a matter of choosing "which religion".

The problem with religion is that religious people will not be in charge of industries and business and shit, which is critical to maintaining power in our modern wold. To reach those people, you need some secular and scientific arguments, which I think the alt-right was successfully providing.

Fuentes is a big voice, but he's doing the religious stuff. It's great for organizing a big mob of people to support him, but I don't see it being a success story, because you need those secular/scientific arguments to convince the billionaires and tech moguls like Musk and Thiel. You need people arguing about race/IQ, and jewish power. But those arguments are never gonna be the basis for your ethnic community.

Fair point. Nick's holdouts on things like IVF, donating sperm, transhumanism, cloning, R-selection, and other alternatives to the nuclear family structure really hold him back from persuading elites and having an effective solution for the modern fertility/feminism problem.

To expound on this.
When you're running a nation state, religion is a component of that. You're gonna need a clergy, just as much as you need a business sector, or a political sector. That's a critical part of your nation state.

Transhumanism is what we should all be radically against. That's the biggest enemy. In 50 years it'll be less about fighting for the existence of white people, and more about fighting for the existence of human beings generally. Everything that you hate about the left is really just transhumanism. Multiculturalism is enabled by cars and mass transit, which is technology influencing society and an early advent of transhumanism. Abortion, and casual sex, and other non-traditional values are only enabled by birth control, which is technology influencing society once again. And trannies, I mean it's part of the name.
Transhumanism IS the big enemy we are really fighting here.

forgot my Varg picture

We're not going to get anywhere if we have to pick between being catholic good boy wifeguys or being incel hermit monks. People like Elon Musk and Andrew Tate set a better example on the reproductive question from an elitist POV. Obviously not everyone can do this, but Nick doesn't even advocate for populist solutions anyways so it's kinda retarded on his part.

The amish and the mormons have done very well despite being separated from the state. Unifying the clergy with government is a good way to cuck yourself if you're looking for mass consent from the populace. Hitler fought against the churches constantly because of this.

Transhumanism IS the big enemy we are really fighting here.

It depends on what you mean by transhumanism. The leftist form of transhumanism tries to separate the human consciousness/will from the biological confines of reality. But that's not reality. A better form of transhumanism is elevating man both mentally and physically. It entails things like eugenics, which leftists are staunchly against. I call myself a transhumanist because I think that seeking things like infinite knowledge, immortality, fertility, physical strength, etc, are desirable and good. Whites are superior because they are the most evolved. I want further evolution to take place.

I've realized pro/anti war is largely a generational thing. Really has nothing to do with left or right. The left support helping Ukraine and the right are ready to send boys into Iran. It's mainly the young who are saying "fuck this. Let's not fund or involve ourselves in foreign wars, even by proxy." I will say the young left seem to support war a bit more than the young right though.

I will say the young left seem to support war a bit more than the young right though.

Because Ukraine sells being an underdog better than Israel.

It depends on what you mean by transhumanism.

No, all transhumanism. Human beings exist because of their physical and cultural environment. It's evolution.
If that environment no longer exists, human beings are undone. That's one of the biggest points Varg was making in all his videos. Preserving the human environment, physical and cultural, is a critical part to maintaining human beings existence.

In the future, we should de-industrialize, and return to tradition. We can have inhuman cyborgs and shit working economy for us, while setting up cultural areas that spawn human beings. You can set up innumerable cultures, and let them organically play off each other. That's how we will maintain human beings in the future.
In the near future the economy will be restructured as humans transition away from being instruments of production. Ideally we should set up cultural areas, and transition society away from "producing goods" towards "producing human beings of a particular quality"

Really nigga?

Amerindians tried doing that and they got wiped out by Europeans who embraced the "degeneracy" of pursuing endless progress to gain a competitive edge over their enemies. Expecting human cultures to peacefully coexist and live according to naturalistic primitive traditional principles ironically ignores the essence of human nature. Nobody will ever even have the power to enforce this model if they follow it, which makes it self-refuting.

I want my race to improve and adapt. I don't want peace and stagnation.

I've caught up with all of the shitflinging in this thread and I still have no idea why he supports Ukraine so much

nono it won't be hands-free. There will be a system in place.
But one of the points is that, to produce human beings, you need the environment. You cannot actually produce white people, without he environment that produced them. Just as you cannot produce a chicken without the egg.

I want my race to improve and adapt

But it won't be your race anymore.

You cannot actually produce white people, without he environment that produced them.

Sorry but that is retarded. You're way overstating the importance of epigenetics. Lamarckism isn't real. Epigenetic changes are reset through the germ line.

Just as you cannot produce a chicken without the egg.

An egg carries genetic information. It has nothing to do with environment.

But it won't be your race anymore.

By what metric? What are you talking about?

He’s FAT!

You're way overstating the importance of epigenetics.

But it's not epigenetics, it's just "actual genetics".
A city is an artificial environment that is designed to produce economic output. Human beings who enter the city, leave their home environment. And what is the result of human populations that enter the city? They devolve. The mating structure breaks down and they start degenerating. Look at how ugly the Brits became after 200 years of industrialization. Look at how much more attractive countries that maintained rural populations, like Estonia, are compared to countries with a hundred+ years of industrialization, like Germany. I mean Australia is literally just british people who broke off 200 years ago, and look how much more attractive they are compared to brits today. Because they were less industrialized and didn't degnerate.
So you cannot remove human beings from their natural cultural/physical environment and expect them to maintain their form over more than a few generations.

By what metric? What are you talking about?

I mean in a few years, it'll be possible to reprogram humans as easily as a computer. You can create dolphin-people, cat-people, bird-people, whatever the hell you want. Humans will just, evaporate. No need for them anymore.
But our priority is to maintain our own existence. Conservatism is all about maintaining our traditions, our way of life, so that we remain who we are.
These inhuman abominations are no different from an alien race that landed on earth to eradicate us. And should be fought with the same ferocity. All transhumanism is a great evil

The mating structure breaks down and they start degenerating.

This is not related to genetics or epigenetics.

Look at how ugly the Brits became after 200 years of industrialization.

This is mostly lifestyle/culture and only vaguely related to epigenetics.

Are you saying that industrialization creates negative sexual selective pressures that promote dysgenics? If so, first I think you're overstating the severity of the situation. Sure, things like having a reduced anogenital distance and fucked up teeth are bad, but they are also easily fixed without de-industrialization. We fundamentally cannot afford to simply "go back" as maintaining the competitive edge is paramount. That's why things like gene editing may become necessary to maintain beautiful and robust populations AND industrial society.

You can create dolphin-people, cat-people, bird-people, whatever the hell you want.

This is not desirable. People will choose to have traits that are objectively beneficial. Regulation will of course be necessary. You wouldn't want to create people with highly advanced immune systems because then they would create superbugs that would wipe out the rest of humanity, but the technology itself will need to be used rather than discarded or else we will all lose to competing forces that will.

this, every eceleb shilled here is controlled

Also gene editing wouldn't create a single foreign and ultimately superior race that is separate from humanity. That's not how it works. It would be used to remove hereditary diseases, disabilities, and enhance the aesthetics of humanity as a whole. There won't be rat people, there will be sexier, stronger, and more intelligent people that still look like racial kin (because they are).

There isn't a single "race gene" or anything like that. Race is a collection of hundreds of thousands of traits that differ among group populations. Changing just a few doesn't create new races, it just enhances your race in the same way that eugenics does without the brutality or time expense.

This is not related to genetics or epigenetics.

But it is.

Like let's take a human population with assorted traits. Some have A, some have B.
Let's say you start out 80% A, and 20% B. For whatever reason, A has a lower birthrate. Because perhaps, the environment changed.
So let's give A a fertility rate of 1.5, and B a fertility rate of 2.5
Generation 0: 80% A, 20% B
Generation 1: 71% A, 29% B
Generation 2: 59% A, 41% B
Generation 3: 46% A, 54% B
Generation 4: 34% A, 66% B
.....
Generation 8: 6% A, 94% B

So after 100 years, B went from being a minority to a huge majority. And after 200 years, the A trait is almost completely extinct.
In other words, what I'm demonstrating is that populations can change a LOT over the course of just a few hundred years, if their environmental pressures change. Even without that much of a fertility difference, just a few percentage points.

But that aside, even if you suddenly take off ALL environmental pressures, the population will still become amorphous and degenerated because of the lack of pressures keeping it into shape. So instead of purging the uglies every generation, now they reproduce freely, and you degenerate.

This is mostly lifestyle/culture

Nah, even Darwin was talking about this. He mentioned how so many people that he considered "inferior" were starting to reproduce like rabbits thanks to the industrial society. People with low impulse control and low morality, the Irish for example. While the Saxons were barely having any kids, and the noble traits were dying out. It's something he noticed, and had his eugenics philosophy taken root Britain would be in a far better place today.

But it is.

Yeah you're right on that point. I conceded that later in the post but forgot to delete the beginning part. Was just having difficulty understanding what you were referring to exactly.

had his eugenics philosophy taken root Britain would be in a far better place today.

I agree. But you haven't explained how there's a meaningful difference between eugenics and transhumanism. I don't consider it "eugenic" to de-industrialize because that inevitably results in enslavement from other groups that continue to technologically progress. They won't self-implode from industrialization, they will just fix the novel problems that cause dysgenics using modern transhumanist technology.

But you haven't explained how there's a meaningful difference between eugenics and transhumanism.

Eugenics was Darwin's idea. The idea is sort of "race hygene", to acknowledge that industrialization has bad effects, and we're going to counter those effects with social planning. Just as you might counter bad environmental effects with planning.
As a side note, he actually envisioned using this process to adapt Europeans into an even-more-civilized race that would go on to conquer the universe. But that's just a side note.

The way I see things, eugenics can be employed to reduce the inevitable detrimental effect of cities on fertility rates. It has a place in policy.
But, I am fundamentally against using policy, or engineering, to change human genetics or fundamentally alter the human being. I think to produce human beings, you need to maintain a cultural environment. That means, reducing technology and letting people live in a pre-industrial civilization. But with some modern comforts.
Like....perfect nutrition. Perfect medical care. Perfect education....etc. Modern technologies exist and supplement their lives, but they are still forced to walk everywhere, or work menial jobs, in order to set up a gene-pool that keeps the population healthy.
So we are basically going to optimize these cultural environments to produce human beings, rather than to produce goods and services. People would still need to work, because that creates a mating hierarchy, but they would work tremendously less time. Instead of 40 hours a week, maybe 10 or something.

So that's the idea. Humanity will achieve an apex of technology, but in order to maintain itself, people will live in a more rustic environment.
We can build fabulous fantasy castles, with cool elevators, and bridges to the sky, and all sorts of cool shit. But we have to maintain ourselves in a certain environment.

He’s 100% right

Russia should be given control of the 4 oblasts and Ukraine should pay some reparations.

But, I am fundamentally against using policy, or engineering, to change human genetics or fundamentally alter the human being.

Every single society has done this to a degree. Spartans throwing disabled babies off of cliffs improves the gene pool. Aborting millions of nigger babies improves the gene pool. Marriage laws are largely about managing the gene pool.

De-industrialization is a false solution. It is dysgenic because it prevents technological advancement. You don't have a good reason to discard technologically advanced forms of eugenics (ie transhumanism) when it solves the same problems.

you need to maintain a cultural environment. That means, reducing technology and letting people live in a pre-industrial civilization.

This is too vague and useless to mean anything. You're just attached to this idea of having a tribe and nuclear family when we've evolved past it already.

Why is he so adamant about fighting Russia?

Because, he's a loser and a grifter. Close this thread, move on with life.

Every Russian in Ukraine should be put in a meat grinder and fed to pigs.

Why is he so adamant about fighting Russia?

Russia invaded Ukraine. Why can't you mroons grasp this simple point? The correct question should be "why is Putin so adamant about killing White Europeans?"

Every single society has done this to a degree.

adapts over time, which feedbacks into genetics, which feedbacks into culture. So these races actually have an entire "lineage" where every decision people make affects their character. They are like living beings, and that process should be studied and systematized. We should let them play off each other, let them grow and change in a wholistic way. That's part of life.
It's not an "easy" problem with an "easy" answer, but the right answer isn't always easy.

De-industrialization is a false solution. It is dysgenic because it prevents technological advancement.

hmm I don't think so anon. Because the way that modern economies work is to scout out untouched rural populations, find their talent, and then concentrate them into the cities to work. We are great at scouting out talent. Unfortunately, once they enter the city, they have the lowest birthrates on Earth, and we have to go found new populations to scout from. That's why there's such a feeding frenzy over India and China. Some of the last untouched populations that haven't gotten their smart people eviscerated by industrialization.
But it was the rural cultural environment that actually produced those people. Sure they were not being employed to their full effect, but they were being produced.
Actually before this filtering process was in place, there was plenty of life in these rural areas, with all sorts of interesting and particular people. But once the brain-drain process of industrialization began, all of the valuable people were scooped out, and now those areas are just a fucking wasteland of human detritus.

This is too vague and useless to mean anything.

No I really think that human beings are produced by environment and culture. The moment. The moment you try to take manual control, your results will be less wholistic.
For example, rather than directly planning the economy itself, it's far more efficient to set up a market

adapts over time

*culture adapts over time

The international community, led by China, must have peacekeeper units inside Ukraine to prevent this kind of thing from happening.

Creating breeding factories is better than abandoning all factories.

didn't he support jew injections?

Look anon, technology growth is exponential, and achieves a singularity. Soon AI and shit will be self-programming, and grow and grow, and become a power beyond all human comprehension. Evolving more in a microsecond than we have in 10 million years.
That is going to happen. We are going to create the ultimate artificial intelligence.

That has already happened, a million times. On all sorts of worlds, all throughout the galaxy. It is an incredibly common thing, achieving the singularity.

So that is going to happen regardless. Whether it takes 1000 years, or 1 million years, we're going to produce it. The end result is inevitable.
But what we CANNOT ever produce again, is the living lineage of culture, genetics, and environment that exists on earth. That is something unique and special, like a brilliant crystalline chandalier.
The only question that really remains is, will this chandelier survive, or be smashed? Will humans and their cultures still exist? Or be subsumed into transhumanism? I think it's more valuable to preserve human beings. That is the only special, unique thing that we can produce. Because the singularity, that shit exists everywhere. They're all much the same.

He got honeypotted by an ugly doginist eurasianist mozhno whore

Amazing how aside from being "racist" he has the exact same position as the DNC on everything.

He's way more overtly anti-Israel, I'll give him that

Achieving the singularity and preserving human beings is the same thing.

They either fell for Russia's atrocity propaganda or they formulate 100% of their opinions off pure contrarianism

only if it serves us and doesn't become a runaway and absorb us.
Basically our task is to harness this industrial and technological power into serving and enhancing us, rather than completely eliminating or altering us. That's the real difference between conservative and liberal.

memeflags, foreigners, and liberal shill for feds

lol

Yes.
Good post idk why u deleted it.