This whole operation/plan was the stupidest thing imaginable...

The entire red army was massed in an attack formation at the borders of germany, ready to overwhelm europe.
There was nothing else hitler could do than attacking first. He did the right thing and he went very close to succeed. He is at least the only reason western europe was spared communism. Still a decent result in my book.

like Napoleon he wanted to capture Moscow quickly and offer Russia peace,

The only thing Hitler and Napoleon have as a likeness is going to war against central banks. The only problem is that Hitler wasn't doing it for the sake of his country, Napoleon was. 14 years of an endless war to make sure that France still exists today. It would have been swallowed if he didn't take the fight to the banks. Have a look at the way the Napoleonic war went. If any leader is going to start a war after that when a central bank is involved they're a useful idiot for the banks. Wake up to yourself. You can't win against a central bank. You can only generate money and give it to your friends.

They nearly won

No they didn't, even if they got Moscow the war industry was already moved, it was just a matter of time before they steamroll them into oblivion.

He wanted to genocide your subhuman ass, not that I blame him desu.

If you think any leader of any country actually wants to go to war since the inception of central banks, then you're an idiot. You can fucking win a war against a central bank. It's quite literally just slaughtering as many people as you can and making as much money as you can. Napoleon proved this beyond a shadow of a doubt.

You can't* win a war against a central bank.

Hitler had options, none of them were exactly ideal. One theory one could purport was the use of biological warfare. The use of biological weapons wasnt anything really new, in medieval times for example during sieges of long periods, some invading armies would acquire dead livestock, let it fester and then launch the ammunition at the enemy, spreading diseases. They'd wait out while the defending forces proceeded to be awakened. It worked most of the time, because people didn't understand how diseases exactly spread or how to combat the problems they caused. They certainly did in 1940's onwards, but Hitler didn't want to seen as a lunatic willing to put all of Europe to the torch and have that double edged sword fal back towards himself. In hindsight, perhaps he should have. The Soviet Union wasn't exactly in a position to handle a breakout of plague like the Spanish Flu, since they were burdened with millions in terms of populace and lacking many modern medicines at the time to handle such a problem. If a covert ops initiated the process, it could have been successful in weakening the USSR tremendously, in terms of propaganda and wartime resources.

But Hitler didn't want his reputation stained, he wanted to win the war the good, old fashioned way. A noble man, all the way. Sadly, it didn't work out as it should have.

A noble man, all the way.

Fuck me. Do you come with a collar and a leash and a bag of dog food as well?

the austrian jewish painter convinced the germans to commit suicide by waging war against the entire planet

they did it with a smile on their face

lol

You're pathetically mistaken if you think I care about the opinions of some inbred ex-convicts bastard offspring like yourself. Lol.

People keep fucking falling for it over and over again

Those germans were geniuses , so whatever plan they had it was probably the best. They didn't have too many options..

You're old. It's very simple you old fucker. We all work for bankers. Our lives revolve around what makes billionaires money. You're coming up with all this bonus reasoning and that's exactly why cunts like you (who are young) sign up for the front lines and die, meanwhile the leaders shake hands and say sorry at the end. There will always be people like you who are willing to sign up and die after an interesting ad campaign and it really burdens the rest of us. Look, I don't blame you, but just shut the fuck up because you haven't got anything helpful to say. You're an idiot. And you're exactly what was intended. Someone who can't possibly see any solution to the problems created by the ruling class. You'll just sign whatever and die wherever.

also Germany was pretty clear they wanted to genocide slavs to colonize their lands so they couldn't shock the USSR into submission like France. USA also came out and started to heavily support USSR too sending entire factories and whatnot so I don't think they'd just collapse.

No matter how mightily Napoleon fought, France quickly lost all the territories he conquered, he was a warrior, not a monarch.

And central banks can't be defeated. They are the backbone of our lives now. They rule us.

this, and germany had to deal with rebellions and insurrections happening 24/7 all around europe.
the Kike Reich was doomed to fail and collapse even if barbarossa didnt happen.

Its pretty hard to maintain control of a continent that hates you with a seething fucking passion and wants you dead.

Imagine if Sweden didn't let freemasons and jews fill the country with shitskins and gangs when they are a great power compared to their size even despite those things. They actually have companies and products and shit that the whole world uses. Finland had Nokia phones but that was 20-30 years ago and that's the end of that.

You can't win against a central bank

Roman general could take his legion to Rome and become an emperor. Banks can only rule when the population is docile and there's not enough armed people under united command

I don't wanna gas the cunt too much, but he proved that central banks can't be beaten. Any if any leader goes to war now they know full well it's a complete cash grab suicide mission. You can't possibly win anything at all and you've gotta be the face of a slaughter while people sit behind you and profit massively. I don't know why people think it was any different during during WW2.

What's crazy is that the germans and their allies (us included) almost won both ww1 and ww2.

Imagine central europe going into a war against the whole world and almost winning that's crazy. If the americans did not help we would have won both. Since Russia back then was not that strong.

It was a stupid idea though, the germans should have stopped at anschluss and should have slowly gained power over the years.

In fact it was such a stupid idea by Hitler that some people believe he was against the germans all along like your post says op. The whole thing is weird because he peacefully unified all of the germans, he even won a nobel peace price, then he decided to attack everyone.

Which eventually broke the german nations apart again and made every german from central Europe be forced back into germany at the same time diminishing the huge german influence across Europe. After ww2 Russia forced the german diaspora back into germany.

Idk what's the truth.

They say that Hitler had to attack because SU was already planning an attack but if they almost won by attacking then what if they just set a line and defended. Attacking takes a lot more resources than just defending and if Germany almost won even by attacking then maybe. SU also wasn't developing an atom bomb if you want to believe nukes exist so there was no hurry in that, it was Germany vs USA in getting the nukes.

But they say Hitler had to at least enter Ukraine because there was oil and Germans were running on synthetic oil/diesel already.

What's crazy is that the germans and their allies (us included) almost won both ww1 and ww2.

they couldnt have possibly been any farther from winning both of those, they were doomed to fail from day 1.

If Italy didn't get their ass kicked by Greece, Germany probably would have won.

They say that Hitler had to attack because SU was already planning an attack

which is very funny, because its completely wrong.

USA consisted largely of Germans so maybe le jews were right about goyim being cattle. In both great wars the media in USA started propaganda that Germans in USA should jump into ships and go kill Germans in Europe because they are le bad.

Here's an option, in exchange for parts of Crimea and other harvest lands and some oil fund independant movements in Ukraine and the Caucusus to weaken the SU, not go on a genocidal war campaign that has zero chance of succeeding.

I don't know if it's true or not but the point was that Germany could have just set a line and defended if by that argument they were already anticipating SU would attack (we presume it was true for argument's sake). Didn't SU lose like 25 million men or some insane number so if they were attacking they would have had to be ready to lose 75 million men to even break even, if we go by the math that attacking takes 3x more men than defending.

Hitler didn't want his reputation stained

befriending arabs and sending expeditions to South Pole to find ancient magic artifacts sure helped his reputation. Not to mention Mengele and other shit

If Italy didn't get their ass kicked by Greece

that is another german fault.
Mussollini and Italy kept telling Adolf that they wont be ready for *ANY KIND OF WAR* before 1944, they just didnt have an army.

adolf didnt care, started WW2

the british started using Greece as an Allied fortress jumping point to the rest of europe

hey mussolini! you must now take greece!!! NOW! time is of the essence! take greece!

with fucking *WHAT*? we dont have an army!

DO IT FAGGOT

italy invades greece with an army armed with sticks, and gets its ass kicked

It often feels like things used to be different. When we hear about WW2, we think of three-line rifles and rumbling tanks, not financial flows. The Russian Empire is not balls in St. Petersburg, it's Siberian gold in London and oil in Tiflis. The Crusades are not swords and the Pope, but racketeering on trade routes controlled by Venetian merchants. The Gospel is not a tale of God, but a report on the operations of a subvertive anti-state mob.
The central bank seems to be something modern, although in reality it is older than most nations and states.

yup agreed 100%, stuff like this happens when you convince a country with the worst war record in europe that they are reincarnated hindu-iranian angels.

Did Hitler subconsciously want to lose?

subconsciously

He was Rotschild-funded and it was a conscious decision.

But Hitler didn't want his reputation stained, he wanted to win the war the good, old fashioned way. A noble man

He literally authorized unthinkable criminal orders like the Commisar Order and Barbarossa decree, something unthinkable for anyone in the civilized west. He was LARPing as a chinese warlord.

Didn't SU lose like 25 million men

about 16-17 million lives lost, of which there was like 9-10 million combatants. Germany lost about 7 million combatants. 25 million is "lives lost" because our goverment for some reason also counts people who would otherwise be born if the war hadn't happen, also some bullshit numbers like "less children born because many man were separated from women". In 1990s anti-soviet nutcases brought this number up to 40 milllion. This is very political, but in the end it wasn't USSR who gave rifles to their kids

Not true. I like poles, but there is a big chance we would have won both ww-s if not for the us help. The us even considered helping our side for a little while.
Yeah it's weird how central europe including hungary had/has a lot of germanic blood, we allied with the germans then the germans from overseas came to fight against us.

Did he hate the Germans deep down?

yes, austrians hate germans with passsion

They don't, austrians literally considered themselves german before ww2, don't be a brainwashed fool

there is a big chance we would have won both ww-s if not for the us help.

american involvement in both world war is an absolute meme.
especially with WW2, america literally funded the entire german war machine for like 2 decades before the germans started WW2, reading about it is a god damn rollercoaster.
if america didnt fund the krauts, they wouldnt even be able to start WW2 at all.

It isn’t as long Japanese open second front

MEIN LEBENSRAUM

Translation:
WE NEED MOAR RESOURCES, MOAR GAS, MOAR OIL

Europe is impotent in the era of mechanical war machines without gas and oil.

The Soviet army was around 12 million by the end of the war and had tremendous experience, the entire county was a military factory. It could defeat a new Nazi Germany again for a second and maybe even a third time afterwards.

By war’s end the Soviet armed forces numbered 11,365,000 officers and men.

britannica.com/topic/Red-Army

If you think the USSR ended at Moscow, you're deeply mistaken. There's even a precedent for that happening with Napoleon.

america literally funded the entire german war machine for like 2 decades before the germans started WW2, reading about it is a god damn rollercoaster.

if america didnt fund the krauts, they wouldnt even be able to start WW2 at all.

Really? How can I find more info about this?

Oh and read about operation unthinkable.

The British and American general staff concluded that a full war with the USSR even WITH FULL PUBLIC SUPPORT (a very unrealistic scenario in itself) would have an uncertain conclusion.

a good entry point is looking up that america paid of 80% of german WW1 war reparations *FOR FREE*.
thats why germans suddenly stopped crying about it.
america paid it off.
after that, i can recommend looking up the BIS (bank of international settlements) and the swiss banks, funnelling untold billions into the german war machine.
there was no german economic miracle, it was just every single jew bank on the planet funding them for free.

Krauts claim to Hate Jews/Communism

Yet German Unification was financed by Jewish banker Gerson with Bleichröder, an associate of the Rothschilds, who were Court Jews of the German Nobility of Hesse and the Hannovers alongside the Oppenheimers/Wolfs, cousins of Karl Marx, who financed the Menshevik/Liberal Russian Revolution that enabled the Bolshevik/Communist Revolution

Yet it was Germans who installed them in Russia (Lenin was sent to Russia in a train by Kaiser Wilhelm II, Israel Lazarevich Gelfand AKA Alexandre Parvus and the Prussians, who also created the Paris Commune and Dreyfus Affair)

Yet Nazi Party emerged as a political arm of the Thule Society, founded by Rudolf von Sebottendorff, member of the Sabbatean-Frankist Memphis-Misraim through the Jewish Termudi family in Greece/Türkiye, who created Communism through the Lodge Les Philadelphes

Yet it was Germans who cooperated with the Soviet Union from as early as 1920

Yet it was Germans who signed that evil treaty in Locarno with the Soviet Union

Yet it was Germans who cooperated with the Soviets by establishing numerous military training facilities in the Soviet Union

Yet it was the Germans that broke the international isolation Soviets were in by diplomatically recognizing them (Mussolini's Italians were first in the whole world by the fucking way)

Yet it was Germans who literally allied with the Soviet Union to jointly to invade and divide Poland/Eastern Europe that has singlehandedly shielded the entire continent from a Bolshevik (German installed, remember) invasion 19 year prior, in the same way as Churchill and FDR, who the Nazis accused of what they themselves did before with Stalin

Yet it was Germans who carved up Europe between the Soviets and themselves where they gave Stalin the most anti-communist nations in the world, agreed to the landgrab in Romania, a supposed German ally and agreed to the Soviet invasion of Finland

Yet it was Germans who tried to get Soviets into the Axis by promising them India

Yet it was Germans who held multiple Gestapo-NKVD conferences

Yet it was Germans who invited Molotov to Berlin in 1940 to further carve up the world

All the events that led up to WW2 was a conspiracy to start a Russian-German War that went wrong. Hitler's antics weren't tolerated because of "Muh Appeasement", they were tolerated because he was meant to be an Anglo-Zionist asset against Stalin. The sudden change of allied rhetoric from one of appeasement and compromise to one of containment and dominance was because their plans were trashed when the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact was signed. England suddenly guaranteed the independence of Poland a few days after the pact, because it was meant to be the sacrificial lamb to get the Nazis and the Bolsheviks to kill each other. But if they were to be allied, there was no longer any reason to give away Poland for free.

The so-called "Phoney War" was a reflection of this, with most hostilities being limited to skirmishes and blockades up until Germany invaded France. The excuses produced by conventional historians for this are absolutely laughable, the reality was that the allies were still hanging on to the hope of a Nazi-Bolshevik conflict, so they were holding out to give Germany the time they needed to actually get a new direct border with Russia, then they were waiting (with the secret services and diplomats active on the background) for them to go to war and destroy each other. This also backfired and suddenly the Allies lost almost the entirety of Europe to those they were meant to manipulate.

This plan would have been the world's most catastrophic case of "sunken cost fallacy" if Hitler didn't end up going full retard and played right into their hands by attacking the USSR.

The shilling and retardation here has gotten completely out of control. Feels like reading r*ddit.

They didnt push to moscow though, they delayed that in order to mop up red army pockets, and lost a few months doing that. Just like with the schlieffen plan in ww1, germans neutered their own plan that could've worked.

I think germany should not have invaded poland and should have made a peaceful way to increase influence in Europe, like they did with the eu. They also shouldn't have done, the whole holocaust thingy.

Ww2 just weakened the region and the influence of germany. That's why the whole thing is sketchy. Winning a war against the whole world doesn't sound realistic why would they do that? Doing death camps won't appeal to anyone even the germans.

The whole thing is weird and in the end it has just weakened europe. Then the eu came to make a peaceful unification, but the eu for some reason forces all this african and arab immigration, which also just weakens us longterm.

There is always sand in the cogwheels.

TRUTH NUKE

the british empire and the french empire were sick and tired of germans shitting on their interests in europe for 20 years, before the germans even started WW2.

the british started massive RAF bombing campaigns 5 minutes after they declared war on the germans, they didnt fuck around.

b-but a Nazi-Bolshevik War was inevitable!

This dogshit view is not backed by any contemporary observations. stalin believed the prelude to Barbarossa was an English conspiracy (for a reason) and tried to avoid provoking Germany to the last minute. This SC fallacy persisted even after the war ended with "Operation Unthinkable", but by that moment Anglo nonsense was disregarded.

Interesting thanks!

Half of the world declared war on Germany, not the other way around. The world was already conquered by the colonial empires of france and britain.

its a hell of a rollercoaster of a research, you better hold onto the chair while reading it.
shits crazy.

Half of the world declared war on Germany

and rightfully so, shouldve already been done when the germans gobbled up czechoslovakia while telling everybody to go fuck themselves.

war is unpredictable. I love when armchair generals/historians are pointing to such and such date, when "oh it was so obvious hitler lost then and there!". You dont know that. Its war, its volatile, people are understrain, the reality and propaganda blends together, death is everywhere. Nothing is certain. Hitler took a gamble, thats for sure

Kek the moved industry meme.

No, burgers did something like doubly triple the USSR output, plugged most gaps in chemicals intermediate products and key goods, and bombed the german economy into months long delays.

The ussr was basically doomed otherwise, the logistics would have collapsed without all the burger and brit trucks and trains half the army or something would have fought on broken shoes even.

you fucked around and found out that your british friends immediately sold you to the soviets. twice.

That's true
Okay pole fren :D

oh yeah im sure nuking Moscow when you still had no nukes prior to 1950 would be uncertain KEK

But yeah by the time they declared war on germany the germans have already invaded places. So it was kinda understandable. They didn't want them to become too strong.

you fucked around and found out

no we didnt.

your british friends immediately sold you to the soviets.

no they didnt.
the poor british had nothing to say in yalta and potsdam in 1945, in fact - the british are the biggest losers of WW2, its funny you think they had any say about anything in 1945.

stalin hiding like a little bitch for two weeks in his office

yeah, totally would've won anyways, suuuure

Nukes in 1945 were simple gravity bombs dropped from slow moving planes.

Definitely so.

To
And nuking Japan meant flying over the ocean, while nuking Russian cities means flying over land full of AA and airfields.

Hitler was a retard. But the idea he had for Europe was good. Too bad he was too much of a fag to actually make it work.

im sure with lend-lease cut you'd stop a 1000-bomber raid on Moscow

no they didnt.

Yes they did. When soviets invaded in 1939 the brits instantly flipflopped about the agreement, saying that "russia is not an european country so it doesnt apply :^)" or that "the agreement was implicitly about protecting poland from germany, not russia :^)"

He is at least the only reason western europe was spared communism

Germans literally conspired to send Lenin back to Russia, memeflag. The "German opposition" (Jewish socialists accused of the Stab-in-the-back myth that supposedly made them lose WW1) were used by Germany itself to take Russia out of the War. The Russian Revolution itself was organized by the Prussian Army Corps by direct order of Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany, with most of the equipment and financial support coming from German banks, again by direct order of the German Kaiser and the Prussians who put Lenin in on a train like a Trojan horse to Russia. This was not the first time that the Prussians had done this, the Paris Commune was created by proto-communist partisans trained once again by the Prussian Army, in Prussian territory, who launched it on Paris after having surrounded the city, after the capitulation of the French Army.

The Swiss socialist, Robert Grimm, who Lenin had described as a "detestable centrist", offered to negotiate with the German government in order to obtain a safe passage to Russia. He pointed out that Germany had been spending a great deal of money in producing revolutionary anti-war propaganda in Russia since 1915, in the hope of engineering a withdrawal from the war. This would enable German troops on the Eastern Front to be diverted to the western campaign against Britain and France. Grimm began talks with Count Gisbert von Romberg, the German ambassador in Berne

Alexander Parvus also arrived in Switzerland. The former German Social Democrat who had originally helped to fund Iskra, the Russian revolutionary newspaper, had now gone over to the German government, operating as an arms contractor and recruiter for the war effort. he had been heavily involved in the German propaganda drive among tsarist troops to destabilize Nicholas II. Parvus made contact with Richard von Kühlmann, a minister at the German Foreign Office

Von Kühlmann sent a message to Army Headquarters explaining the strategy of the German Foreign Office: "The disruption of the Entente and the subsequent creation of political combinations agreeable to us constitute the most important war aim of our diplomacy. Russia appeared to be the weakest link in the enemy chain, the task therefore was gradually to loosen it, and, when possible, to remove it. This was the purpose of the subversive activity we caused to be carried out in Russia behind the front - in the first place promotion of separatist tendencies and support of the Bolsheviks had received a steady flow of funds through various channels and under different labels that they were in a position to be able to build up their main organ, Pravda, to conduct energetic propaganda and appreciably to extend the originally narrow basis of their party."

Parvus made contact with General Erich Ludendorff who later admitted his involvement in his autobiography, My War Memories, 1914-1918 (1920) that he told senior officials: "Our government, in sending Lenin to Russia, took upon itself a tremendous responsibility. From a military point of view his journey was justified, for it was imperative that Russia should fall."

General Max Hoffmann, chief of the German General Staff on the Eastern Front commented: "We naturally tried, by means of propaganda, to increase the disintegration that the Russian Revolution had introduced into the Army. Some man at home who had connections with the Russian revolutionaries exiled in Switzerland came upon the idea of employing some of them in order to hasten the undermining and poisoning of the morale of the Russian Army."

Yes they did.

no they didnt.

When soviets invaded in 1939 the brits instantly flipflopped about the agreement

nope, they didnt flip flop it - that agreement literally said in caps lock that they only care about germans shitting up europe.
also, the british were in a state of cold war with russia since 1945 to 1990, so yeah - another evidence that the british are fantastic allies.
love these guys.
great allies.

Hitler was a jewish asset.
He could wait with winter instead he pushed and lost. All on purpose.

Hoffmann claims that Reichstag deputy Mathias Erzberger became involved in the negotiations. "And thus it came about that Lenin was conveyed through Germany to Petrograd in the manner that afterwards transpired. In the same way as I send shells into the enemy trenches, as I discharge poison gas at him, I, as an enemy, have the right to employ the expedient of propaganda against his garrisons."

Paul Levi, a close associate of Rosa Luxemburg, and a member of the German anti-war Spartacus League, handled the Berne-Zurich end of negotiations, with Karl Radek. Levi was contacted by the German Ambassador in Switzerland and asked: "How can I get in touch with Lenin? I expect final instructions any moment regarding his transportation". Lenin now negotiated the deal with the ambassador that would allow him to travel through Germany

Once the three of the carriage's four doors at the Russian end were closed shut, Fritz Platten, a Swiss socialist marked them with chalk in German as "sealed". The train was given a high traffic priority by the Germans. Crown Prince Wilhelm, the eldest son of Kaiser Wilhelm II, was delayed for two hours to let Lenin's train to pass

Russian resistance had fallen apart by the time the Bolsheviks slipped in through the North. Lenin's revolution, however, was heavily funded by the Kaiser as a 'finishing move' against the remaining Tsarist forces. Unfortunately for the Central Powers, Russia was not the main problem, the Western powers' receipt of US troop support was. Ludendorff's resignation and the mutiny of the German Navy sealed it

This whole operation/plan was the stupidest thing imaginable

You say that post factum.

They encircled Leningrad, but lost
They reached Moscow, but lost
They even reached Stalingrad even though blitzkrieg was long over by then and they LOST.
It just looks cartoonish, like how tf is this possible? The bad guy almost wins and in the last second he loses.
Also they thought that amerca will be neutral.

1000 bombers

Silverplate was the code reference for the United States Army Air Forces' participation in the Manhattan Project during World War II. Originally the name for the aircraft modification project which enabled a B-29 Superfortress bomber to drop an atomic weapon, "Silverplate" eventually came to identify the training and operational aspects of the program as well. The original directive for the project had as its subject line "Silver Plated Project," but continued usage of the term shortened it to "Silverplate".

Including the Pullman B-29, a total of 46 Silverplate B-29s were produced during World War II. Of these, 29 were assigned to the 509th Composite Group during World War II, with 15 used to carry out the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. An additional 19 Silverplate B-29s were ordered in July 1945, which were delivered between the end of the war, and the end of 1947. By this time only 13 of the original 46 were still operational. Thus, a total of 65 Silverplate B-29s were made, of which 32 were operational at the start of 1948.[29]

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silverplate

In April 1917 Lenin and a party of 32 Russian revolutionaries, mostly Bolsheviks, journeyed by train from Switzerland across Germany through Sweden to Petrograd, Russia. They were on their way to join Leon Trotsky to "complete the revolution." Their trans-Germany transit was approved, facilitated, and financed by the German General Staff. Lenin's transit to Russia was part of a plan approved by the German Supreme Command, apparently not immediately known to the kaiser, to aid in the disintegration of the Russian army and so eliminate Russia from World War I. The possibility that the Bolsheviks might be turned against Germany and Europe did not occur to the German General Staff. Major General Hoffman has written, "We neither knew nor foresaw the danger to humanity from the consequences of this journey of the Bolsheviks to Russia."

Russian resistance had fallen apart by the time the Bolsheviks slipped in through the North. Lenin's revolution, however, was heavily funded by the Kaiser as a 'finishing move' against the remaining Tsarist forces. Unfortunately for the Central Powers, Russia was not the main problem, the Western powers' receipt of US troop support was. Ludendorff's resignation and the mutiny of the German Navy sealed it. But by sending the most influential communists to start their international socialism movement in Russia, and paying them, Germany prevented its own socialists from forming a core leadership group receiving guidance from Lenin, whose presence in Switzerland before he was inserted in Russia was suspected to be in preparation for a German Socialist rebellion, which the Kaiser feared more than military defeat. He was apparently right, considering what happened to his cousin the Tsar

The middleman between Lenin and Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany was literally named Israel Lazarevich Gelfand, you can only guess what religion he was.

How is it a cold war when they traded throughout it, and anti-soviet partisans got ZERO support from the west? The soviets even invaded you with british tank designs.

Actual truth nuke, in the end Hitler served (((their))) interests like a good goy, best goy who ever lived to be precise. Instead of purging Europe from Rothchilds he gave them entire world on a silver platter.

it failed in the war games/simulations

HO4 says otherwise you cuck

brazil flag

these pastas

I've got deja vu.

The Jews believed their messiah would be an earthly figure, a new David or Solomon to reestablish a Jewish kingdom. Every century, without fail, some huckster would come along and declare himself the Messiah, only to leave his followers disillusioned. In 1648, the latest such individual materialized in one Sabbatai Zevi of Smyrna. This handsome young Sephardic Jew had studied the Kabalah rituals intensely and was sure he'd discover the secret Truth within them. Twice he married for social obligations, twice he got divorced for lack of interest in his wives. The Kabbalistic text "Zohar" had declared 1648 (5408 in the Jewish calendar) the year the Messiah would appear. And so in that year, Sabbatai, aged only 22, proclaimed himself the Messiah. Denounced by the rabbis of Smyrna as a charlatan, he moved to Salonika, was denounced again, and continued his travels until he reached Jerusalem.

When the ravaged Jewish communities of Ukraine had stopped sending alms and left Jerusalem impoverished, they sent him to Cairo to seek help, where he married a third wife, Sarah, whose beauty further added to his luster. At Gaza, a followed named Nathan Ghazati took up with him. They declared that within a year, the Ottoman sultan would be expelled and the Jewish kingdom would be reborn. By this point, news of Sabbatai was spreading throughout the Jewish world despire a handful of skeptics. Vast celebrations run out in Jewish communities from the Netherlands to Palestine. Apparently Sabbatai himself came to really believe he was the Messiah. He declared he would go to Constantinople and peacefully depose the Sultan. On January 1, 1666, he set out by ship to the Ottoman capital

both USA and UK traded with the USSR, sweetie, doesnt change the fact they were in a state of cold war since 1945-1990.
because they are both fantastic allies.

Unfortunately, no sooner had Sabbatai landed then the Ottoman authorities promptly arrested him. After two months imprisonment, he was sent to Abdyos and his wife and friends allowed to see him. His followers still believed; they said the Messiah would be doubted and humiliated at first. Jews everywhere waited anxiously. His initials, S and Z, were tacked up in synagogues and those who doubted his legitimacy were in peril of their lives. The Ottoman authorities were vexed as to exactly what to do with Sabbatai. They didn't want to just kill him, turn him into a martyr, and generate a possible violent uprising. Instead, they took him to Adrianople and told him he would be dragged through the streets and his skin burned with lit torches, but he could avoid all this by converting to Islam. Sabbatai accepted. On September 14, he stood before Sultan Mehmed IV, threw away his Jewish garments, and put on Turkish clothing. Mehmed conferred on him the name Mehmed Effendi and gave him a job as palace doorkeeper for a generous salary. His wife Sarah also accepted conversion to Islam and received rich gifts from the Sultan.

Jews everywhere were shocked and devastated at Sabbatai's apostasy. The rabbi of Smyrna, who had doubted him but eventually came to accept his claims to be the Messiah, almost died of humiliation. Muslims and Christians everywhere ridiculed the Jews as dupes who fell for a slick conman. Trying to do damage control, Sabbatai's aides assured the masses that it was a sneak ploy to convert Muslims to Judaism and he would reemerge with an army of a million ex-Muslim converts. Sabbatai got permission from the Ottoman authorities to preach in Adrianople with the assurance he would convert the Jews there to Islam while releasing secret messages assuring Jews he was indeed the Messiah and to have faith in him.

Every last truck the glorious red army had was US made or license built US trucks and it was the most reliant on horses in WW2 if anything it shows that without the US the red army would have three GAZ (Ford) trucks and ten trillion horses. Those lovely Katyushas are hauled on US trucks, we saved your absolute shite logistics and it isn't even up for debate.

However, no Jews in Adrianople or any place else made an effort to convert to Islam. The Ottoman government, disillusioned, transported Sabbatai to Albania where no Jews lived. He died there in 1676 a broken, forgotten man but his cult survived for half a century afterwards and his followers were sure he'd come back from the dead to lead them to victory. Jacob Frank revived the Sabbatian cult with the claim that he is the “true” new Messiah. In the Eastern European world at that time which longed for deliverance, his message aroused an enthusiastic fellowship. Frankism became a mass movement, fed by the burning desire of his followers to construct a new world order. Frankism promotes the double negativity to deny the world through nihilism in order to save it. The cult follows the mystical tradition of the Kabbalah. After the great shock of being expelled from the Iberian Peninsula towards the end of the 15th century, Judaism suffered another blow from the waves of deadly pogroms in Eastern Europe, particularly in Poland and the Ukraine in 1648 and 1649.

The Frankists spread to Amsterdam, then London, where Hayyim Falk (who was sentenced to death by the Bishop of Cologne but escaped) heads the Frankists. Falk infiltrates the Jacobite Rite, which later unites with the Grand Oriente de France and the Asiatic Brethren (the latter is infiltrated of the Strikte Observanz aka. Illuminati). Karl von Hessen is member of the AB. His brother finances Mayer Amschel Rothschild (BTW Holy Roman Emperor Leopold I, made his Court Jew Samuel Oppenheimer in charge of banking in the Holy Roman Empire. He passed his role to his son, Simon Wolf, then he to his son, Jakob Wolf, then he to his apprentice Mayer).

Soviet war effort was unsustainable and the USSR was hit by multiple famines during the war. Your entire military industry could have been crippled in 1943 through Eisenhammer.

american trucks

oh yeah, that reminds me:

“In 1935, GM agreed to build a new plant near Berlin to produce the aptly named "Blitz" truck, which would later be used by the German army for its blitzkreig attacks on Poland, France and the Soviet Union. German Ford was the second-largest producer of trucks for the German army after GM/Opel, according to U.S. Army reports,” (Dobbs, 1998, para. 17). Not only did the American automakers produce trucks for the German army, but they also provided large quantities of strategic raw materials (Dobbs, 1998, para. 18). As the war approached, and due to an intense pressure from Berlin, the American automakers had to cooperate closely with the Nazi regime (Dobbs, 1998, para. 19). Hence, when the war broke out in 1939, the American automakers, GM and Ford, became extremely crucial to the German army (Dobbs, 1998, para. 22).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Germany#Ford-Werke_AG_later_Ford-Werke_GmbH

The Rothschild, immediately after the Napoleonic Wars and Battle of Waterloo, take control of all nations of Europe who were so destitute and so war-weary that they would be content with any solution. So they organize the Congress of Vienna, in this meeting try to create the first League of Nations. In theory, all the crowned heads of European governments were so deeply indebted to them that, like it or not, they would serve as their puppets. But the Russian Czar smelled the plan and completely torpedoed it. Triggered, Nathan Rothschild, who was then head of the dynasty, swore that one day he, or his descendants, would destroy the Czar and his entire family. Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany and the Prussians sent Lenin on a train to Russia and the rest is history.

The elites who run the world are all Sabattean-Frankist Jews. The Sabatteans disguised themselves as Muslims, the Frankists disguised themselves as Catholics and Christians, and they both infiltrated secret societies via Adam Weishaupt, and infiltrated finance and government via the Rothschilds. These particular Jews, specifically the Frankist faction of Jews, are a weird blend of Christian and Jewish-Kabbalistic beliefs (Gnosticism tips). They are Jews who believe in Jesus Christ and believe that non-Christian Jews are outdated heretics and blasphemers who have ignored the word of God when Jesus came down to preach the gospels. Their goal is to get Jews to convert to Christianity, specifically Catholicism, or have them killed off entirely if they refuse.

For reference

The USAAF lost more than 8,000 heavy bombers—each of which typically carried ten crewmen—in combat during the strategic bombing campaign over Europe.

I'm well aware that there are many "USA could defeat/nuke/overwhelm/outscience Russia any time!" folks in Eastern Europe, so I'll bump this thread a couple of times to give them an opportunity to respond.

Paulus did actual war games and it failed, not some manchild vidya.

it's not stupid. They nearly won. The fucking Italians delaying them at Greece caused them to miss Moscow by a month

This. Also, for the 6 gorillionth time: the USSR was preparing to launch the largest invasion of Europe in history. Faggots who insist on denying this reality should be ignored and there is no point in engaging in conversation which such bad actors. For those new to this history:

-Hitler made the mistake of entering into the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. He thought that this would shock the UK particularly (and the West generally) and end the lunacy of goading Poland into an increasingly belligerent posture.

-Hitler fundamentally miscalculated how subverted the UK was, how deeply entrenched jews were in the "aristocracy," and that they were happy to sacrifice the Empire if that meant destroying Germany.

-Jun 1940 USSR violated the MRP by occupying Bessarabia & Northern Bukovina

-Nov 1940: Molotov presented aggressive demands, including Red Army rights in Bulgaria and naval bases in the Balkans

-1940 Zhukov revamps the 9th Army, transforms it into a mountain force comprised of Caucus peoples. Emphasis placed on Carpathian knowledge.

-early 1941 German overflights indicate a massive build up of Soviet forces, grossly defying OKW projections.

-May 1941 "Stalin becomes Chairman of the Soviet government" (Suvorov, V. "The Chief Culprit." Naval Institute Press, 2008, pg 202)

-Jun 1941 9th Army stationed on the Romanian border

This is not at all a complete picture. Quite arguably, Stalin was preparing a sweep of Europe as early as 1941 and H beat him to the punch. Furthermore, Barbarossa came (just barely short) due to
-Italian ineptitude in Greece
-OKH changing Hitler's A/A plan of cutting off the Caucasuses and northern supply routes
-an unusually early/brutal Winter

-Jun 1940 USSR violated the MRP by occupying Bessarabia & Northern Bukovina

Guess who was allied with the USSR when those campaigns happened.

Yeah, Germans are arrogant retards, who never had a good foreign policy.

You can read and so you selectively skipped over my points on that. Seriously dude, show some humility. I freely offer up that the USA was ZOGed out by the 1930s. You should similarly be able to have the wherewithal to admit that the USSR was a demented Asiatic rape-ape.

Shlomo can you give us a heads up on how many more decades you're going to mald about Hitler? Its just so old by now

Furthermore, the USSR occupation of said territory was a violation of the MRP, which I clearly noted. I also clearly noted that the MRP was a maneuver by Hitler to prevent hostilities with UK/France, but ultimately he was outmaneuvered by the judeo alliance of the UK leadership and the USSR. Those tanks Stalin built in the 1930s had a limited serviceable lifespan, which ended in 1942. This isn't hard to figure the fug out.

His hand was forced when the Brits didn't seek peace even after France fell. What the fuck Timmy gon do when they are sitting across a channel?

This whole operation/plan was the stupidest thing imaginable,

You were only saved due to harsh winter you got there.
Guess what?
Winters are no longer that harsh and cold, zigger.
This time your treacherous filthy state name RF will be destroyed once and for all.

Leave RF now, while you still can.
Millions of Russians will die,millions.

rumble.com/v664aaa-get-out-of-europe-quickly.html

How is this equivalent in any way to US lend lease giving the Soviets 99% of their trucks during their "Great parotitic war" straight from the factory? Just like with Coca Cola this stuff was targeted for sanctions but muttland and those factories nationalized, nice try Mateuz now get back to plunging Mahmoud's toilet in Lonodon.

When Jacob Frank appeared in Poland in the late 1700's, who the Frankist Jews believed was a prophet and a reincarnation of Jesus, he told the Jews in Poland, Germany and Central/Eastern Europe at that time that they absolutely must convert to Catholicism or God is going to kill them all off in a great upcoming calamity (the Shoah). Jewish Kabbalists use 6-pointed stars, the statue of Moloch had 6 lower openings for animal sacrifice, there were 6 death camps (Auschwitz, Treblinka, Kulmhof, Sobibor, Majdanek and Belzec) and historians call all the deaths as Holocaust (which means "Burnt Offering", a reference to Jewish animal sacrifice, but 600,000 to 900,000 Jews had already been killed before the Final Solution through starvation, disease, forced labor and summary executions and of the 5.1-5.4 million that remained, only 2.5 - 3 million had their almost-dead anorexic/tiny/sick/weak bodies wasted away in poisoned showers and accumulated cremated in ovens), the Six Day War, etc... 6 is a symbolic number of sacrifice, Sabbatai itself means Saturn (the sixth planet).

The hidden history is that many Jews did in fact convert to Catholicism and saved themselves. Is it any reason that so many Polish Catholics look Jewish, but profess Catholicism? Also keep in mind, Hitler was said to be nominally Catholic, but was also rumored to be ethnically Jewish. (*hint* *hint* *wink* *wink*). Hitler was also a major player in the foundation of Israel, a big part of the plan and a necessity of the Sabattean-Frankist Jews.

Once you learn about these specific groups of Jews, it is such a big awakening, and everything makes a lot more sense.

youtu.be/XDKEBt4jEzk?si=8JMQvFUZJkXns_yv

youtube.com/watch?v=NuXoM-6cE0Q

youtube.com/watch?v=q6nTxdqcLH8

I'm mad because he wanted to exterminate blond haired and blue eyed Slavs and populate those lands with Germanic rats like Goobles.

If he sought out a different undermining of the SU I would support him.

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and the Nazi Party were created by the Egyptian Memphis-Misraim. which was founded by the italian alchemist Cagliostro and whose members were also part of Carbonari, who gave rise to the Unification of Italy, Fascism and P2/Propaganda Due Lodge. TL;DR: The Protocols were written by a Jew (Joseph Schorst alias of Theodore Schapiro) who claimed he stole them from a Memphis-Misraim Lodge in Paris when he sold them as Intelligence to a Russian general's daughter in the 1880s. Protocols weren't "100% factual and authentic", they were a obvious false flag and limited hangout, much like the Taxil Hoax for Freemasons performed around the same time. The Nazi Party emerged as the political arm of the Thule Society, which was founded by a member of Memphis-Misraim, Baron Rudolf von Sebottendorff.

reteccp.org/biblioteca/disponibili/guerraepace/potere/sion/Protocols-Revelation.pdf

According to Fry's account, Justine Glinka (1836–1916), the daughter of Russian diplomat Dmitry Glinka (1808–1883), was endeavouring (in the early to mid-1880s) to serve her country (Russia) by obtaining political information in Paris, which she forwarded to General Orgevskii. In 1884 a Jewish Freemason named Joseph Schorst (alias of Théodore Joseph Schapiro) sold Justine a manuscript copy of the Protocols (written in French) for 2,500 francs. Fry believed that Schorst had smuggled this copy of the Protocols out of the archives of one of the Mizraïm Masonic Lodges in Paris. According to records in the archives of the Sûreté (French Secret Police), Schorst eventually fled to Egypt, where he was murdered. This manuscript of the Protocols then supposedly found its way (through a very convoluted and questionable route) into the hands of Sergei Nilus

You have such a pathetic mentality. Do most Poles act like this? It is no wonder you always live in German's shadow.

shut the fuck up slant eye subhuman

By the way, Russia acquired an ability to nuke the US without actually flying over there two years before the US did and invented the ICBM.

Given steady funding throughout, the R-7 developed with some speed. The first launch took place on 15 May 1957 and led to an unintended crash 400 km (250 mi) from the site. The first successful test followed on 21 August 1957; the R-7 flew over 6,000 km (3,700 mi) and became the world's first ICBM.[7] The first strategic-missile unit became operational on 9 February 1959 at Plesetsk in north-west Russia.[8]

Also read about Pyotr Ivanovitch Rachkovski (1860?-1920?). He was the mysterious head of the Okhrana, the Tsarist secret police, in Paris. Played a double game throughout his career, both creating revolutionary sects and taking credit for infiltrating and destroying them. His machinations forged the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, killed the Tarot specialist and magus of Tsar Nicholas II, Papus, and no doubt involved him in the Black Hand plot that killed Franz Ferdinand and launched World War One. With that kind of résumé, he might be Illuminati, too

Official historiography considers them a fake created by the Okhrana, the tsarist police, because it seems to be written with some sentences extremely similar to a papmhlet of many years earlier against Napoleon III written by Enlightenment satirical authors. However, the official historiography forgets to mention the fact that the Tsarist police officer who allegedly ordered it (Pyotr Rachkovsky) had in turn also hired a Jewish informant (Arcadiy Harting Hackelman) and then elevated him to better job positions, effectively denying the fact that the individual who ordered the protocols was an antisemite. (Maybe it points the opposite) My personal opinion is that they are AUTHENTIC, and that when the tsarist police found them, they could not but spread them as they were plotting against all monarchies and calling for a revolution. Which then happened and got executed the Romanovs.

Arкadiy Mikhailovich Harting (Russian: Apкaдий Mихaйлoвич Гapтинг; 29 October 1861 – ?) was a secret agent and officer of the Okhrana, the secret police of the Russian Empire. During his career spanning from 1879 to 1909, he served as a police informer, agent provocateur, officer and the Head of Okhrana foreign service based in Paris. Born to a Jewish family, he was later baptised and at the end of his career was awarded the rank of Active State Councilor, which gave him the rights of nobility

Arkadiy Harting was born Aharon Hackelman (Russian: Aaapoн Гeккeльмaн) on 29 October 1861 in Pinsk (now Belarus), to a Jewish family. In 1879, he became a student in Saint Petersburg

In Saint Petersburg Hackelman joined the underground cell of a revolutionary terrorist organisation Narodnaya Volya and befriended many revolutionaries, including Vladimir Burtsev, future counter-intelligence champion of the Russian revolutionaries. At about the same time, Hackelman was recruited by Okhrana to spy on activities of fellow revolutionaries. Information obtained from him led to a number of arrests, and some fellow revolutionaries became suspicious. According to the archive of the Paris Okhrana., he was defended by Burtsev, but Burtsev claims that he was prevented from raising his suspicions about Hackelman by other high-level revolutionaries. Hackelman then moved to Riga where he continued to spy on members of Narodnaya Volya, leading to further arrests. When suspicions about his involvement with Okhrana intensified, he fled abroad

Hackelman then settled in Switzerland and enrolled in ETH Zürich under an assumed name Landesen. Under this name he resumed his contacts with Russian revolutionaries who were preparing bombs to be sent to Russia. In 1885, he was recruited by Paris Okhrana, Okhrana's foreign service based in Paris under its first head Peter Rachkovsky. Landesen first spied on revolutionaries in Switzerland despite persistent suspicions of cooperation with the police. In 1890 he moved to Paris and continued to spy on Russian revolutionaries based in France. The most high profile operation of Landesen in Paris was an elaborate provocation to expose a number of revolutionary terrorists. He facilitated and financed a fake conspiracy of a number of revolutionaries to assassinate Russian Emperor Alexander III

Did you ever consider he might've just been an incel retard

To this end, a number of bombs were prepared and distributed among the conspirators. Rachkovsky then tipped off the Sûreté, the French secret police, and conspirators were arrested, but Landesen escaped. In a widely publicised trial of 1890, the conspirators were sentenced to prison terms or expelled from France. Landesen, considered the ring leader, was sentenced in absentia to five years in prison. This operation served not only the primary task of neutralising the radical revolutionaries, but also to show to the Russian government that France was no longer soft on subversives. This facilitated the Franco-Russian Alliance, which was Rachkovsky's major of diplomatic goal

Hackelman then fled to Belgium, where he assumed a new name, Arkadiy Harting. Rachkovsky assigned Harting to a number of missions concerned with security of visiting Russian dignitaries. For these assignments, he was decorated by Honours from Russia and a number of host countries. In 1892–1893 he was baptised and assumed the name Arkadiy Mikhailovich. In 1896 he officially changed his surname to Harding (Гapтинг). He then married a Belgian Magdalena Pirlot. In 1900, he was appointed head of Okhrana Berlin station, which initially operated as a branch of the Paris Okhrana under Rachkovsky, but more independently after 1902, when Rachkovsky was replaced by a new chief, Leonid Rataev. In Berlin Harting organised a surveillance and penetration network similar to that operated by Rachkovsky in Paris. One of his agents was Jacob Zhitomirsky, who provided valuable information on the activities of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party and its Bolshevik faction, including the inner circle of Russia's future communist leader, Vladimir Lenin

Zhitormirsky's information led to the arrest of Kamo by the German Police for his role in the 1907 Tiflis bank robbery. In 1904, during Russo-Japanese War, Harting was sent on an assignment not directly related to revolutionary activities. He was to organise a surveillance of possible Japanese spies in the Baltic, in order to prevent disruptions to the navigation of Russian fleet to the Pacific

After the assassination of Interior Minister Vyacheslav von Plehve and the escalation of revolutionary activity in 1905, Rachkovsky was brought back into Okhrana as a deputy head of the Police Department, and soon after arranged to have Rataev replaced with Harting as chief of Paris Okhrana. Under Harting, Paris Okhrana reached the peak of its activity. Harting's operations were particularly effective against arms smuggling into Russia by revolutionary groups. Harting coordinated surveillance and penetration of these groups throughout Europe, and introduced the filing system with information about all persons mentioned in intelligence and operational reports. He coordinated a network of about 40 penetration agents and about 20 external surveillance agents

In 1909 a former Okhrana officer Leonid Menshchikov, who defected to revolutionaries, identified Harting as a former Okrana agent Hackelman and as Landesen, the organiser of the provocation for which he had been sentenced to a prison term by a French court. When Burtsev published this information, Harting was dismissed from his Okrana post and fled to Belgium. The revelation caused a scandal in French Parliament, when Socialist deputy Jean Jaurès attacked the French government for hosting foreign police service on French soil. In response, Prime Minister Georges Clemenceau promised that this would not be allowed to continue. Although in reality Paris Okhrana continued operate under a new chief, Alexandr Krasilnikov, it never reached the level of activity achieved under Harting

the british started massive RAF bombing campaigns 5 minutes after they declared war on the germans

lol, that's not true at all
Chamberlain refused to bomb German cities because that would be ungentlemanlike, even after the Germans had flattened several Polish cities.
Chamberlain was a good man but a bad soldier.

Napoleon outnumbered his opponents in Russia but lost because he couldn't supply his men.
Hitler's armies were well supplied, but he lost because his men were outnumbered by the enemy.

Germany vastly outnumbered the Soviet army in the first year of the war.

Initially the axis armies outnumbered the Soviet troops, the SU only started to SLOWLY outnumber them in 42 or so.

Not just Moscow, it was everywhere.
Read Tigers in the Mud by Otto Carius.
He talks about how close the front line he was on (in his Pz-38) was to taking Leningrad.
He said for months they sat there while farmers and the general populace lived and worked around them for months, and they told them how the city was empty of soldiers Ypykp

Hitler was a retard.

He was a petty German chauvinist of the worst kind.
He did for nationalism what Napoleon did for republicanism, discredited it for a century.

In 1913 Harting was awarded the rank of Active State Councilor, which gave him the rights of hereditary nobility. During World War I Harting was involved in counter-intelligence work in France and Belgium. His further whereabouts including the date of his death are unknown

Harting was not the only Jewish/Bolshevik double agent in a high position in the Okhrana. There were several of them and it was probably these same ones who adulterated/forged the original Theodore Schapiro/Gérard "Papus" Encausse manuscripts of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion just as Leo Taxil did with Domenico Margiotta's book "Le Palladisme: Culte de Satan-Lucifer dans les Triangles Maçonniques" to create his fraud.

Yevno Fishelevich (Yevgeny Filippovich) Azef[a] (Russian: Éвнo Фи́шeлeвич (Eвгéний Фили́ппoвич) Áзeф; 1869–1918) was a Russian socialist revolutionary who also operated as a double agent and agent provocateur. He worked as both an organiser of assassinations for the Socialist Revolutionary Party and a police spy for the Okhrana, the Russian Empire's secret police. He rose through the ranks to become the leader of the Socialist Revolutionary Party's terrorist branch, the SR Combat Organization, from 1904 to 1908

After the revolutionary Vladimir Burtsev unmasked his activity in 1909, Azef fled to Germany, where he died in 1918

Yevno Fishelevich Azef was born in Lyskava (now Brest Region, Belarus) in 1869, the second of seven children of a poor Jewish tailor. His father moved to Rostov with the family when Yevno was five and opened a drapery but barely made enough money to get his children through school. After leaving school around 1890, Azef worked as a journalist and a traveling salesman. In 1892, the police suspected him of distributing revolutionary literature. To avoid arrest, he embezzled 800 rubles and fled to Germany to first Karlsruhe and then Darmstadt

Over 40 million dead whites in ww2

They did win. Whites are being destroyed, that was the goal. Only faggots have hope.

There, he studied to become an electrical engineer and joined a group of Russian social democrats

In April 1893, Azef wrote to the Okhrana, the Russian secret police, offering to inform on his fellow students, for money. Later that year, he moved to Berne in Switzerland, and in 1894 joined the Union of Socialist Revolutionaries Abroad, which was organised by the respected narodnik couple Chaim Zhitlovsky and Vera Lokhova

When he graduated, in 1899, the Okhrana ordered him to return to Russia, where he joined the Northern Union of Socialist Revolutionaries, led by Andrei Argunov, and became, in effect, his right-hand man, even though Azef wanted the revolutionaries to resume the use of terrorist tactics, while Argunov did not believe in violence. He valued Azef's ability to resolve practical problems, such as setting up an underground printing operation, but was unaware that he was being assisted by the Okhrana. In November 1901, Argunov sent him to Europe to help unify the Northern, Southern and foreign Socialist Revolutionary unions into a single organisation. Argunov was arrested as soon as Azef had left Russia. In Switzerland in 1902, Azef became a founding member of the Socialist Revolutionary Party, and served as deputy head of its combat organisation, headed by Grigory Gershuni, which was responsible for acts of terrorism

Gershuni thought so highly of Azef that he nominated him as his successor, and so when Gershuni was arrested in spring 1903 after being betrayed by another double agent, Azef became head of the combat organisation, with Boris Savinkov as his deputy. Azef thus became both Russia's leading terrorist and most highly paid police informant. In that position he organized the assassination of Vyacheslav Plehve in 1904. Plehve, as minister of the interior, was Azef's nominal employer and the person who had ultimately authorised him to infiltrate the Socialist Revolutionary Party

Plehve had also made Gershuni's arrest the police's main priority, thus facilitating the rise of Azef. In 1905, Azef would organise the assassination of the Tsar's uncle Grand Duke Sergei Alexandrovich of Russia, who served as Governor-General of Moscow

The success of those two assassinations gave Azef immense prestige within the Socialist Revolutionary Party. Because he was so trusted, he was able to deliver a long list of his rivals within the SR Party over to the Okhrana to be arrested. Their names included Anna Yakimova, a veteran of the plot to kill Tsar Alexander II who had served 24 years in prison, and Zinaida Kopolyannikova, who was hanged in August 1906 for assassinating the head of the Tsar's lifeguards. In 1905 alone, according to researchers who accessed police records after the 1917 revolution, Azef informed against 17 of his subordinates within the SR Combat Organisation

The assassinations of the Interior Minister and the Tsar's uncle also set off a crisis within the Okhrana. The Director of Police, Alexei Lopukhin, resigned, and was replaced by his rival Pyotr Rachkovsky, whom he despised. One of Rachkovsky's first actions was to sack Leonid Ratayev, who had been acting as Azef's handler, and to personally take over supervision of him. Azef's double dealing was also resented by the Okhrana's longer-serving officers, one of whom anonymously tipped off the Socialist Revolutionaries that the Okhrana had recruited two informers in their ranks, Azef, and a man named Tatarov. Boris Savinkov ordered for Tatarov to be killed: he was stabbed to death on 4 April 1906, but the Socialist Revolutionaries could not believe that Azef was also a spy. Nonetheless, fearing more leaks from within the Okhrana, Azef emigrated to Geneva

He was in Helsinki in February 1906, when he learnt from a go-between named Pinchas Rutenberg that Father Gapon, the popular hero of the 1905 revolution, was also a police informant

Fpbp

They didnt push to moscow though

They did not get to Moscow. They tried.

They nearly won.

and again italians and romanians on the flanks of stalingrad where line broke first time and all went to shit. If they held...

they didn't break because they're weak, they broke because they were extremely overextended and the terrain didn't lend itself to entrenchment

western europe was spared communism

unfortunately, that appears to have been mistake, marxism ended up being less destructive than cultural marxism. however, the Christ-killers who did cultural marxism in the west might have done that in soviet europe instead, and eastern europe wouldnt have been spared

Late in 1906, Vladimir Burtsev, a left-wing magazine editor, was approached by an Okhrana officer who had turned against the government who provided him with a wealth of accurate information, including the presence of a spy in the leadership of the Socialist Revolutionary Party, whose identity he did not know. Later, Burtsev spotted Azef riding through St Petersburg in an open cab when most revolutionaries were in hiding and suspected that he was the unidentified spy. Unable to prove his suspicions or to persuade any significant figures within the party to share them, Burtsev contrived to meet Alexei Lopukhin in the carriage of a train leaving Cologne and put it to him that Azef was a spy, which Lopukhin confirmed. Burtsev then wrote up the case against Azef and had it printed and dispatched to the Central Committee of the SR Party, who appointed three veteran revolutionaries (Vera Figner, German Lopatin and Prince Kropotkin) to a court of inquiry, which held a month-long hearing in Paris and concluded that Burtsev's claims should be taken seriously. Learning where Burtsev had gained his information, Azef secretly visited Petersburg to pressure Lopukhin to repudiate his story. Instead, Lopukhin approached Azev's former mentor, Andrei Argunov, in Petersburg to verify Burtsev's testimony and travelled to London to give the same information to three of the party's representatives. In January 1909, the Central Committee ordered Azef's assassination and tried to lure him to an isolated villa in France, but he fled to Germany

His wife, Ljuba Mankin, who had been unaware of his double-dealing, divorced him and emigrated to the United States. One of his last acts as a spy was to denounce Lopukhin, who was exiled to Siberia for blowing Azef's cover

In Germany, Azef lived with a singer and worked as a corset salesman and stock speculator to invest the money he had amassed during his career as a double agent.

If you are a nazi you are directly a fucking NIGGER like Kanye West. If you hate jews you are a NIGGER. If you want to kill other white men you are a NIGGER. Now shut the FUCK UP

Are you still talking about the Hitler fantasy and past wars when we have one on our door steps? You might want to change your focus.

renegadetribune.com/germanys-incredible-courage-defend-europe-hitlers-invasion-soviet-union-surprised-stalin/
dont spew bile unless you have something worth
While to say, just ask if you dont know what youre talking about

He was constantly in fear of being recognised and killed. From 1915 to 1917, during the First World War, he was interned by Germany as an enemy alien. In prison, he suffered from kidney disease.

Yevno Azef died of renal failure in Berlin on April 24, 1918. He was buried in an unmarked grave in Friedhof Wilmersdorf.

The Combat Organization (Russian: Бoeвaя Opгaнизaция, romanized: Boyevaya Organizatsiya, or the Fighting Organization) was the terrorist branch within the Socialist Revolutionary Party of Russia. It was a terror sub-group that was given autonomy under that Party. In his memoirs, group member Boris Savinkov called the group the "Terrorist Brigade. (This phrasing was followed in his own memoirs by Whittaker Chambers, an American spy for the Soviets.)

In 1902, Grigory Gershuni founded and led the group. In July 1904 they murdered the Russian Minister of the Interior, Vyacheslav von Plehve

In 1904, Gershuni was arrested, and Yevno Azef succeeded him, with Boris Savinkov as his deputy. Azef, a double-agent in the employ of the Tsarist secret police Okhrana, changed the Terrorist Brigade's mode of attack from firearms to dynamite. In its middle period (1903–1906) the brigade's members included more than a dozen women and more than four dozen men—some nobles, honorary citizens, priests, and merchants. Most were 20–30 years old; 19 were Jews, and two Poles. In 1908, Savinkov succeeded Azef, but the group disbanded shortly thereafter

Choice 3)

Backstab Russia AFTER building german factories on the petrol fields (by telling Rus factories will be used to supply them both - then complain about Rus worker quality and saboteurs....staff factory with german troops and guard with troop....then invade)

Hitler was either too stupid, too honorable, or a plant to sacrifice millions to moloch.

Dmitrii Grigor'evich Bogrov (Russian: Дмитpий Гpигopьeвич Бoгpoв; 10 February [O.S. 29 January] 1887 – 25 September [O.S. 12 September] 1911) was a Ukrainian Jewish lawyer, known for his assassination of the Russian prime minister Pyotr Stolypin

Raised in a wealthy Jewish family in Kyiv, Bogrov developed sympathies for revolutionary socialism from an early age and became involved with the Ukrainian anarchist movement while studying law at university. Disillusioned by the local anarchist group's activism, he was hired as an informant by the Okhrana and kept tabs on the group's activities. After graduating, he moved to Saint Petersburg in order to practice law and seek safety from the rising environment of antisemitism in the Russian Empire

Disturbed by the pogroms in the Russian Empire and feeling guilty for his collaboration with the police, he began to plot the assassination of the Russian prime minister Pyotr Stolypin, who he held responsible for the attacks. He unsuccessfully attempted to elicit the support of the Socialist Revolutionary Party, which caused him to have a nervous breakdown. After returning to Kyiv, he was confronted by members of his former anarchist group, who had discovered his involvement with the Okhrana and made threats against his life for it

He again resolved to assassinate Stolypin. He told the Okhrana that assassins were planning to kill a government official, convincing them to grant him a ticket to the Kyiv Opera House, where the prime minister was due to attend a play. Having convinced the authorities that he was still on their side, he managed to get close to the prime minister and shot him twice. Stolypin died four days later. Bogrov himself was executed days after his target's death

Bogrov's actions have become the subject of conspiracy theories, as well as numerous historiographical debates about his motives

because putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger is a better strategic bet than being dependent on Russian oil and food at least until you find alternatives

I don't buy the no-choice theory. He definitely had a choice, a non-suicidal choice, but he thought that the Soviet Union was easy pickings because it was completely rotten and one simply had to kick the front door down for it to collapse.
Hitler may have been a great politician with great national socialist ideas for his country (another topic) but invading the Soviet Union was very dumb especially when you have Great Britain and the United States in your back.

You should never, never take on multiple great powers at the same time and you should never have multiple front wars against said powers.
For reference see Napoleon bogged down in Spain, invading Russia, while multitasking a continent-wide military conflict with multiple great powers and hostile populations and lands. Hitler really needed to read about the Napoleonic wars.
It would have saved National Socialism and the Third Reich, but instead we got a wrecked Europe full of faggots and shitskins and the pernicious influence of Russian Marxist commie socialism until the end of the Cold War which spread and infected the entire West, especially in the universities and mass media.

Did Hitler subconsciously want to lose?

He didn't count on Britain and France going traitor on his ass.

Miggers in the Tud

Stolypin's boldest measure was his peasant reform program. It allowed, and sometimes forced, the breakup of communes as well as the establishment of full private property. Stolypin hoped that the reform program would create a class of conservative landowning farmers loyal to the tsar. Most peasants did not want to lose the safety of the commune or to permit outsiders to buy village land, however. By 1914 only about 10 percent of all peasant communes had been dissolved. Nevertheless, the economy recovered and grew impressively from 1907 to 1914, both quantitatively and through the formation of rural cooperatives and banks and the generation of domestic capital. By 1914 Russian steel production equaled that of France and Austria–Hungary, and Russia's economic growth rate was one of the highest in the world

Bogrov again committed himself to his plan to assassinate Stolypin, who he considered to be the "source of all evil in Russia". In late August, he went to the Okhrana and told them that revolutionaries by the names of "Nikolai Iakovlevich" and "Nina Aleksandrovna" intended to assassinate a member of the government during the Tsar's upcoming visit to the city, claiming they had a bomb and were staying at his flat. Convinced of his reliability due to his past work as an informant, the Okhrana gave him a pass to attend the events, so that he could identify and apprehend the assassin. He was provided with a ticket to a performance of The Tale of Tsar Saltan at the Kyiv Opera House, where Stolypin was due to attend and where Bogrov claimed the assassin planned to carry out his attack

If the Dmitry Bogrov didn't kill Stolypin and he could continuate his land reform policies to increase productivity and create a rural middle-class, Russia could not only have become developed more peacefully and under stronger bases that under Stalinism, even World War I could have been avoided.

have you guys read his book?
daaamn there is a lot of magical things in it predicting the future now
quite shocking

So you're just copypasting walls of text without the ability to digest it and give a qrd but this makes you feel smart or something because otherwise you'd just paste links, is that it ?

predicting the future now

You need to be a complete moron not to understand what capitalism is all about. Stalin warned all of us about both capitalism and jews but no, you don't sing praise to him because it's social taboo in our controlled by jews world.

Do you want a short and enigmatic text for your little brainlet head to think about much? Then take this:

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Your entire theory relies on the false assumption that the USSR would've played nice with Germany and not invaded immediately at first opportunity.

It's not a false assumption because the scenario never happened. It's a neither true nor false assumption, it's a what-if assumption based on the reasoning I gave.
Leaders have to make practical strategic assumptions and some of these are better than others. On the national or geopolitical level these are not an exact science and there are no guarantees in life.
But yours is the assumption that the USSR would have invaded an extremely well armed, industrialized and fortified German Reich that spanned from France to central Poland and Romania.
And this after their costly campaign in Finland where the Russians were embarrased.

You have to weigh your choices here, each with its own pluses and minuses. And again, as a matter of principle you don't start multiple fronts against multiple great powers.

The USSR never cared about the cost of human life, so why wouldn't they? Increase their hegemony and power, get more resources for the party, dispose of some slaves.

He could have pushed trough Turkey into the middle east, to satisfy all the oil needs of Germany. A country that has all of mainland Europe can not have food issues unless they are completely incompetent. For everything else they could trade. Also the Soviet Union was interested in going trough Afghanistan to India so they could have reduced the UK to a single isolated island and force a peace deal on the UK. Germany picked the worst option, even if they did defeat the soviets in Europe they would have to dedicate at least a million soldier to defend the border and garisson the territory. That would leave them with almost no reserves to fight the USA and the USA would eventually win.

The USSR never cared about the cost of human life, so why wouldn't they?

This assumes that Stalin would be so reckless, and for his own part, suicidal. Again we're talking about an invasion of a heavily armed, fortified and industrial German Reich with the best air force and army in the world.
It's not Finland and it's not some light decision that Stalin would have had to make. And why make a potentially disastrous existential war with Germany when they can trade you machines and you trade them oil and food (as they were doing)?
And remember Stalin fell psychologically ill when he heard the news that Germany invaded. It doesn't sound like it was a fight he ever wanted, because he didn't.

Also in this scenario we don't know if Germany would have choked off Britain, not declared war on us, had a successful campaign in N Africa and the Middle East. This is an extremely different scenario with many other complex variables as well.

Well, you have to understand the psyche of Hitler and the people of his generation (most generals)
Basically they went through WWI, and started boomersperging about it and consider war as formative to youth, that somehow youth have to "sacrifice" themselves like "they" did in WWI.
A lot of what Hitler made young germans go through were humiliation rituals. There was a fucking medal just for people who survived the cold. They would see no action in the east, would almost die of cold, come back and have a medal.

It was a sacrificial ritual.
Something people don't say about Stauffenberg, the guy who attempt to kill Hitler, is that he did so precisely for that reason.
By 1943 it was over for Germans but Hitler kept sending young people to die in Stalingrad for the sake of it ( (because "I sacrificed in WWI so everyone has to sacrifice!").