ITT: Arguments against universal healthcare

ITT: Arguments against universal healthcare

Humans have over populated the world.

fucking ouch

There's nothing wrong with you.

brown people will use it.

This

while i dont like bikers, that guy handled getting his foot obliterated very impressively

it is really impressive

This. Swarms of brownoids entering canada, along with the government firing healthcare workers who didn't get vaxxed, turned somewhat-decent healthcare in this country into dogshit.

Ukrainian “refugees” get healthcare for free

My health insurance goes up 20% in 2 years with no prior significant increases for years

Totally not related I am sure.

his leg felt that feel a fly feels who gets swatted

Universal healthcare great thing. Especially when you grow older.

I can think of a few.

But when hospitals care for the uninsured...you already have universal healthcare. You pay for the uninsured

High Cost and Tax Burden:
One of the strongest arguments against universal healthcare is the substantial cost. Critics argue that funding a universal healthcare system would require significantly higher taxes, potentially straining individuals and businesses. Some believe the government might need to increase taxes to levels that could have negative economic consequences, especially for lower-income individuals.

Quality of Care Concerns:
Critics contend that universal healthcare systems often lead to longer wait times and lower-quality care due to high demand and limited resources. In countries with universal healthcare, some people argue that access to specialized services and elective treatments may be delayed, and this could impact overall health outcomes.

Government Control and Bureaucracy:
Some oppose the idea of government-run healthcare because they believe it could lead to inefficiency, bureaucracy, and a lack of responsiveness. Critics worry that when healthcare decisions are made by the government, it may create a one-size-fits-all system that doesn't adequately address individual patient needs or preferences.

Disincentive for Innovation:
There is a concern that universal healthcare might stifle innovation in the medical field. Some argue that a single-payer system could reduce the financial incentives for private companies and entrepreneurs to innovate, since the government would be the primary purchaser of healthcare services, potentially limiting the competition that drives improvements in treatments, technology, and care options.

Limited Choice for Patients:
Universal healthcare may limit patients' ability to choose their healthcare providers. In some systems, the government may dictate which services are covered, what treatments are available, and which healthcare providers are in-network. This could be seen as a loss of autonomy for patients who prefer to choose their doctors or medical providers.

painful but well-deserved for thinking he was too special for the speed limit or flow of traffic

what do you do in this situation? tourniquet (assuming he has one) and call the emergence?

I bought a motorcycle a few years back and almost immediately realize how absolutely fucking retarded those death machines are. I basically never ride it now. It just sits in my garage.

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Yeah. Your foot is gone realistically. You basically have to stop bleeding if you’re bleeding and preserve what’s left. If you act quickly you might keep your whole lower leg above the ankle.

Thanks, RecklessCapitalismGPT

They already have it. Every ER in the country has illegals in it right now for reasons that don't require an ER visit. None of them will pay a dime for it. I pay $1000 a month for ok insurance that a hospital will bill $500 for a band-aid

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I bought a motorcycle a few years back and almost immediately realize how absolutely fucking retarded those death machines are. I basically never ride it now. It just sits in my garage.

Get my motorcycle, car, truck, trailer.. license at 18.
Realize that speed and having the exhaust blast into my ear would, at best, lead to me never again having a license.
Never touched a motorcycle for over 3 decades. Watch Tourist Trophy, Paris run, GhostRider, TurboRider and stuff knowing well that likely owning a bike would put me on the organ-donor-table within weeks. I lack self-control on bikes. YOu can give me a 600hp car, do not care. But biking...
youtube.com/watch?v=cH1-tieh9rA

counterpoint: these guys are free organs

1. Not enough doctors/nurses to handle it

2. It's a service from other people and producers, it is NOT a right.

3. You WILL have death panels and wait times. We already have that via insurance companies, it will just be government backed death panels.

4. You get a HIC (healthcare industrial complex) that will be worse than the MIC.
-- This is how innovation dies. Single payer means single corporation. Which means monopoly. Which means oh fuck, this douchebag can charge whatever for insulin, and there IS NO GENERIC option. All products in the HIC will be branded and stuck due to lowest cost option.

5. Extreme free rider problem: Illegals don't pay in to the system yet get all the benefits. While being sick fucks overloading it.

6. Innovation will only come from excessive wasteful government R&D dollars. The HIC will not pay a dime for R&D, but will profit off it.
-- New treatments now live and die in government political committees.

7. You will have a government assigned doc, just like the post office. No choice, you get who you get, and FUCK YOU if you don't like them.

8. Rich-fag stratified treatment. Because they can pay, they can get fancy for-profit treatment and stuff. Poorfags need not apply, enjoy MAID.

9. Government induced race to the bottom mentality like with education. All doctors and nurses and procedures will get "standardized" and dumbed down so all the DIE hires can do it.

10. Corruption and abuse becomes unsolvable except by violence. Just like schools.

some people do stupid things so a broken arm should cost you thirty two thousand dollars plus tip

All of these arguments are trifles compared to the real problem. Advancements in health care have led to an explosion in cancer, diabetes, heart disease, etc, because it has reduced the selective pressure against these traits. People will evolve to be more and more unhealthy and more reliant on health care until our entire economy revolves around health care(it's already about 15% of the first world's gdp).

Privatized health care at least mitigates this effect because healthy people can use their money to support more children instead of paying medical bills.

You guys really do not want universal healthcare system?! You know what private clinics can coexist with free state owned one, and you always can choice where to go?!

the niggers can get everything for free and you can pay for them and you at the same time so what's the issue

But, do you take in consideration situations where you can't afford medical treatment by your own?!

People who can't afford medical treatment need to be removed from the gene pool.

Why do retards always need to risk their body/life just to get ahead of traffic? Darwinism at work. I feel zero sympathy, enjoy having only one foot.

So if something serious happen with you, and you can't afford treatment, you will be OK with dying?!

Immediate shock is a wonderful thing. I've broken my legs a couple of times and didn't feel a thing after about 15 seconds.

Best part is, what since he is disabled now, society will pay him welfare until he die.

I do that. But it requires you to be white to be successful at doing so.

after working as an adult for almost 2 decades, and dealing with shitty people that dont do their jobs, i can assure you, that i dont want communism, nor do i think fatties with little to offer society should fail their way to the top with "equal pay" and when they go to the hospital a couple times a year because all they do is eat mcdonalds and smoke cigarettes and cant stay healthy, they should pay for their mistakes.
meanwhile i eat healthy and get regular exercise. i was never a weak link in any company i work for, yet retards and losers still get equal or better pay while they scam insurances.

Why should I pay for someone else's poor life choices?

2. It's a service from other people and producers, it is NOT a right

Fair & speedy trial also requires service and provision of costs from other people, sorry buddy you can just rot in a hole on suspicion because claim rights don't exist

this is what lolberts actually believe

Working class pay for the poor and unemployed drug addicts and lazy degenerates.

Pay for your self. If you care about your teeth, pay for a dentist. If you care about your health, go see a doctor. I should not have to explain this to you

Do you feel more manly when you do it? How would you react in this situation?

This is like asking: if I was a nigger, would I be ok with the white ethnostate not letting me in? Or: if I was a cow, would I be ok being slaughtered?

Obviously the answer is no, but I am not a nigger, or a cow, or a lazy subhuman who can't afford insurance.

Oopsie

I have some ego. I don't feel more manly. And I am somehow driver-autistic so I can't enjoy nigger driving in front of me and I simply MUST overtake. And most importantly they are almost always doing 10 under the limit.

If this happened to me I would be probably glad I lived and never did it again. But you must know and handle your vehicle well and not put yourself in obviously retarded situations. That being said, this will probably never happen to me.

Advancements in health care have led to an explosion in cancer, diabetes, heart disease, etc, because it has reduced the selective pressure against these traits. People will evolve to be more and more unhealthy and more reliant on health care until our entire economy revolves around health care(it's already about 15% of the first world's gdp).

Based retard
The thing the diseases you list all have in common is that they take decades to develop (due to accumulation e.g. of arterial plaque, cellular damage, amyloids, etc.; or simply the fact that all non-zero probabilities approach 1 given enough time). If you manage not to die from injuries, infections, etc., for long enough, you will die of a slow progressing chronic illness instead, as you must die eventually.
You can't have evolution like that in two generations. Even if you could, diseases that almost never occur during most people's fertile years can scarcely affect evolution as their genes are already selected or not by then (they can affect kin selection but this gets weaker the later in life it occurs; healthy grandparents might improve a child's fitness but an adult's hardly at all; healthy great-grandparents even less so)

lazy subhuman who can't afford insurance.

But you can become one, when become old. People lost they grip after 40 very fast.

Kill yourself for being so dumb.

that guy

I assumed it was a girl. I know the lens is always weird on this cameras but their arms/legs are like straight twigs.

full throttle on 150cc overtake at 60mph. if u got one of these do not be aggressive you are on the econo engine 6 whole parts

occur during most people's fertile years

Increasing reproductive age can help a lot from eugenic point. If people start making kids only after 50-60-70 longevity start growing very fast in every next generation.

You are missing the forest for the trees. It doesn't matter if the rise of a particular illness so far is do to evolution or not. The premise that free healthcare will cause humans to evolve to be less healthy and more dependant on healthcare remains true.

No, I cannot become one. My life and my children's lives are properly sorted out.

That would only be true if people could have enough healthy children at that age so that the minority of babies born healthy to elderly children would eventually outbreed the babies born earlier and the unhealthy babies. In practice since most people are infertile at that age, and the few babies born to elderly parents have higher rates of (sometimes severe) health problems, what would really happen is humans would go extinct. I mean birth defect rates are increasing just from people having kids in their 30s instead of 20s...

free healthcare will cause humans to evolve to be less healthy and more dependant on healthcare

In the time scale required for evolution beyond the very minimalist "change in allele frequency" definition, which is hundreds of thousands of years at least, we will either be extinct, returned to monke, or basically gods. Personally I'd bet on extinct/monke but hope for apotheosis.

Shitskins say this

We are not the same

Was having some chest pains some years ago and decided to use the public service. Doc said he wanted some sort of x ray with extra benefits, can't remember.
It took 3 months and half to get the thing done + results and by then the pain was gone.

Why do people seem to record every second of their lives?
Always this. It's not for them.

In the time scale required for evolution beyond the very minimalist "change in allele frequency" definition

Evolution does not operate on a set timescale. It is determined by selective pressure. If the selective pressure against illness goes down, rates of illness go up in the next generation. But this is a pointless deflection.

we will either be extinct, returned to monke, or basically gods. Personally I'd bet on extinct/monke but hope for apotheosis.

In any case, we won't have a bright future with dysgenic policies.

Because woman's drink and smoke in this days worse when males. If they choice healthy life they can make healthy babies in they 50 next gen will make it after 60 and so on and so on. This what i mean.

Preventative healthcare is like 100x cheaper than sending people to ER when it's too late.

Then close ERs and let people die

That's third world tier. No, it's worse.

very impressively

he didn't feel shit for a few seconds anon. I bet after he turned off the camera he shat himself while screaming like a girl

too many immigrants

i dont want to pay a crackhead liver transplant

If be pissed off with myself and just let myself bleed out because I don't want to spend the rest of my miserable life with no foot.

I wouldn't exactly call losing a foot a trifle

I havent been to a doctor in 25+ years and I ride a motorcycle most of the year. Stop having shitty genes and no brains.

Nah he probably went into shock and fell into traffic and was run over.

That bike is well capable of accelerating more than that. When overtaking a truck always give it the beans or things like that can happen