Why aren't you a Pagan, Euro anons?

Sythians are older than the Egyptians and even Egyptians sources say this.

Best post desu.
But normies on Anon Babble won’t understand this

Can't be pagan and hate trans

I thought this as well. Americans are so fucking retarded. They’ll just spray out half digested misinterpreted knowledge they heard some social grifter from youtube sprout

The Roman Imperial polytheism is probably the best for western civilization, especially considering catholics preserved a good number of its traditions.

And?

What a retarded thing to say, but then again, you are american

True. Same for main Greek gods. They were royal gods. Commoners gods were more practical and linked to specific jobs and locations.

founding member of christian church

pagan

Polytheism died off by nations unifying. Tribalism is the thing that developed gods and later they became more abstract and Platonic.

Rome even moved to more monotheistic sol invictus before adopting Christianity.

Elagabalus, the Roman emperor, was devoted to the Syrian sun god Elagabal (also known as El'Gabal or Ilāh al-Jabal, meaning "God of the Mountain")

Proto sol invictus?

The Severan dynasty needed an origin theory to cement their legitimacy, just as Augustus and Vespasian had done so before. Their Syriac beliefs - heavily influenced by Jews - pushed for the first monotheist cult in Rome.
It was later picked up by Aurelian, and then refined by Constantine in his time of need.

Interesting how Elagbulus worshipped the same black stone as the Muslims currently do, too.

Why do you choose to worship a kike?

Please document how on earth irreligious people “worship a kike”.

King of Christcucks

Rabbi Yeshua (Jew)

King of Satanism

Anton Levey (Jew)

King of Atheism

Sam Harris (Jew)

This is a common political slander of the time and is acknowledged as such.

Aurelian

monotheist

Sol Invictus was the primary god in a polytheistic pantheon, Sol Invictus was not monotheistic.

Interesting how Elagbulus worshipped the same black stone as the Muslims currently do, too.

Elagabalus was rooted in Babylonian and Assyrian mythology, not Semitic mythology, it is often confused with it since its initial supporters were of Arabic origin.

t. archaeologist

t. archaeologist

Oh good. So you've admitted you are the biggest liar and establishment grifter of us all. Now the healing can begin.

Post documentation for irreligious people “worshipping” those gods(?) or anyone/anything religious.

His wife is French.

Funny you choose an emperor who was a monotheist.

I don't, but I'd also rather be independent from the gods, even if I wish them well like any other being.
also this desu

pic related

Varg can be criticised for a lot of things, but making strawman argument memes is not good.
There are a lot of European features besides blue eyes and blonde hair. Varg would never say that a niglet with blue eyes is somehow white.
Clearly he made a lot of people insecure and mad with his claims, which is why all this butthurt is unfolding.

Varg even said at some point that ugly people are not his brothers.
So in his view, being beautiful is also a white trait of some sort.
So even if we will be petty like that, the girl on top is still more white than the niglet on the bottom, even according to Varg's direct ideology.

I don't even like Varg, but here I am defending him.
You know what I like even less than Varg? Stupid faggots like you.

You fags could actually try learning, but you won't.

Jesus never said worship me. He said to worship the Father.
Pagans and atheists are crypto agents for Lucifer there end game every time is to lead people away from Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ.

There

Kek.

Learning what? I just don't feel right submitting to gods. It would be a disservice to both parties.

No such 'submission' exists outside of abrahamic faiths. I see this commonly, you are applying abrahamic conceptions of the one god as a father figure retroactively to these ancient gods, which were viewed more as powers that were to be realised within oneself, thus differentiating between initiates and laymen. And this is what was negated as evil and demonic by the Christian entryist infiltration. This is an error I encounter again and again.

The other day I was walking on the road and I went past a dixy chicken with a muslim teen working there. He was praying while the store was empty, head full submitted to the ground in proskynesis, as no true man should, only a humiliated slave. in the Temple of Iuppiter, considered the god of kings it was considered a faux pas for a man to bow his head, and you would have been asked what you were doing there. in the Roman Senate, a greek historian commented that it was like being surrounded by a room full of proud kings.

Doesn't it make sense, that a true god of kings and for kings, would impart upon you the power of kingship, rather than making you kneel? For a true king's vanity would wish for him to be a king of kings, rather than a master of slaves, and the former would be a truly significant feat. This is an idea best captured in the idea of numen.

So, you don't want to learn, and embrace contradictions and incoherence, by your own admission.

muh ancestors went to church, nigger

ugly people are not his brothers.

Euronymous murder case solved.

What is this nonsense?
European polytheistic beliefs would have dragged european society down even more than the kike brainwashing.
I dream of a society that may one day function united under no such cuckery, but that won't happen for centuries, millenia even, we are still very much primitive.
As it stands, religious cuckery is the one thing that brings the most people to work together, even if under brainwashing, christ cuckery being the most successful at doing it, and based on values, the most preferable of the existing ones.

Interesting how Elagbulus worshipped the same black stone as the Muslims currently do, too.

Interesting! I had the exact same hunch after reading relevant wikipedia articles about this a year ago.
But as far as I understood, there is no proof that the black stone of Ka'aba is the same Syrian black stone. Can you point to some references?

So Mr archaeologist, can you tell me about the origin of the black stone of Ka'ba?
We have a narration from a Syriac Christian in 7th century, claiming it belonged to an idol of Aphrodites. What do you think?

thanks, based knower.

im just a vibe historian, i believe whatever fits my narrative, and gradually adjust it when random anons who sound authoritative like hollanon above shift my course.

Are you arguing the gods are just primordial powers and not beings with psyches of their own?
Regardless, I know it's not like in the abrahamic faiths. I was trying to summarise the idea of having the gods influence my fate.
Also, obviously you are not kneeling face to the ground, but there is still some reverence and above all respect in the act of calling to the gods. Even if you apply the notion of just performing the adequate for a certain favour from a god and then going on with your life, I'd still rather not go to someone whose values I would still be at odds with at some point, which leaves... I'm not sure if that leaves anyone. There are also gods I don't even feel comfortable calling to in the first place period.
I will also admit the gods' fickle physicality makes it less likely for me to bother to approach them much, so call the aforementioned cope if you want. But I'm not a normalfag nor a Anon Babble normalfag so don't apply the same reasoning you would for any person here.

There is no one black stone, Arabs would carry stones of all sorts with them, believing it to hold numen. Christian monks in Byzantine (if I recall correctly) commented that they always brought them with them. It's a custom, not a singular stone. Probably the single stone took prominence for that particular city and even moreso when the Islamic prophet syncretised old religious practices into judaic customs. One of his elite companions first wanted to assassinate him because they saw him as a threat to their polytheistic customs. A lot of pre-islamic arab customs are incorporated into Islam, such as the pilgrimage. They also used to depict their various gods as shapes.

Are you wotanprnce by any chance?

Pagans are coping hard for losing to Christianity based on their own might is right principles.

saying that, weren't Baetyl stones worshipped throughout history?
vaguely remember reading that meteorite rock was universally seen as being from the heavens. I guess warriors would hunt down meteor sites and saw it left OP rock in its wake?
Think some Egyptian pharaohs had steele swords from meteorite rock.

Also a relevant thread of mine:
I hadn't seen Jap bro's thread before posting it...

muh normalfag

No, you are reducing it. They have their own autonomy and existence. It is similar to the jungian idea of archetype, where people think it simply means categorisation, they are mistaken, Carl Jung meant it as an autonomous force with its own volition.

Only perhaps at the lower levels or for laymen is it invoked as an 'other', but still without the obsequious slave attitude. It is primarily abrahamic religion that has no operations. One post in Anon Babble said that Christianity doesnt even talk about meditation, or these powers are seen as demonic, so they are negated and lost entirely.

Someone posted 'where are the gods', but we are the ones who abandoned them.

Christianity empited the heavens of gods and earth of heroes. Gods have their champions on earth, this is true.

at the highest levels of initiation this barrier between 'you and i' is entirely dissolved. It is seen in the cult of Venus Erycina when the hierodule 'becomes venus', or in the imperial cult where the emperor carries the numen of iuppiter or apollo as his own intimate faculty, or the pharaoh who 'becomes Montu' in war (identified by greeks as ares or apollo). The traditional religious attitude is closer to the magus rather than the priest who bows to god as a slave (christians and muslims proudly saying they are slaves or servants to 'god').

it is the basis for the initiatic process, ancestral customs inner development, and many social organisations. It does differentiate society and the family into a hierarchy, as Ive said before. We have lost these things in the modern desacralised era, whose mentality you share.

If you want to be a barbarian schizo on your own and lack any piety to ancestors or gods at all, that's your own poverty, and it is antithetical to pagan customs. Go be on your own then. Piety and fidelity to the father and ancesttors was sacrosanct, to go against them was considered sacrilege. So you do not even have a father, nevermind a god.

You have no ancestors or gods and would be viewed as an outcast. Another idea is that it's not universal for everyone. These are real powers, if you reject them, you do so at your own peril, but man is not without the higher realm. You just end up a materialist. Quite like the modern man, i.e. 'normalfag'

I will add one last thing, the modern world could not exist without Christianity. It has no spiritual operations, and has stripped us and created the modern man through gradual deviations of these ancient notions. That's why we are broadly fucked.

No one is compelling you, nor do we necessarily think you have the capacity for it. I am only telling the truth, accept it or reject it. You find no value in it, perhaps due to confusion, perhaps due to will. That's your life. Good will and gods speed.

Piety and fidelity to the father and ancesttors was sacrosanct, to go against them was considered sacrilege. So you do not even have a father, nevermind a god.

“If any man come to Me and hate not his father and mother, and wife and children, and brethren and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.

Luke 14:26

Much of the bible cannot be understood without an understanding of Roman religion on its own terms—negated for centuries in Academia. Only now are we reaching the wisdom of the ancients in science and academia.

Because I'm not a faggot

The Carolingian era was a mistake

For a true king's vanity would wish for him to be a king of kings, rather than a master of slaves, and the former would be a truly significant feat

In Quran, the purpose of creation of Adam and Jinn was declared to be only worshiping Allah (Qur'an 51:56). The word for worship was لیعبدون from which عبد and slave comes. And it uses an exceptional voice: we didn't create [for any reason]....except to worship me.

Talos? Isnt he from Skyrim and Morrowind? :D
Actually here are lot of people who are more or less pegan. They just dont make a big thing out of it. Actually the people being very loud about beeing pegan are mostly shitheaded lefties.(exept varg here) so you dont want to be seen in the same light. Europe Christianity is very different to american christianity. Here christians are israel shilling philosemites mostly. And in general less weired about there religion.
And history has proven there are a lot of christians fighting jewish degeneration. So its a private thing and not much of a problem.

Thats absolute BS Nigger.

kek. romans. we fought the romans as we where pegans.

Thanks. For pointing this out.

because my farts make a noise and I'd like to keep it that way

Yes I know, that's what I'm talking about, the dumbed down and obseqious slave ethic that is basically a woman's religion and psychology, as if man can not have the divine of himself. This is what has destroyed the ancient wisdom for it is mainly the woman that are subject to a 'superior' and worried about social shame. It is entirely antithetical to the ancients, now you have schizo Christians talking about 'nephilim' and 'demon kings' because of this jewish mentality. We Graeco-Roman pagans reject this universal reduction of man to infancy entirely and forcefully. Ave Caesar! No kings but Caesar!

It was institutional capture of Rome.

I will post something about gods having their own autonomy in an ancient tradition of communication in my next post held at the highest realms of the Roman office, to address the german anon.

I don't care if you're a kike demon worshiper or a new age asatru faggot, if you don't have your own religion you're just an npc.

So what? Whats the problem with a proper celtic lady?
Not every french whorships Emanual Transcron or Naoleon Fucktard

frigg in hell

Are you arguing the gods are just primordial powers and not beings with psyches of their own?

I will post something about gods having their own autonomy in an ancient tradition of communication in my next post held at the highest realms of the Roman office, to address the german anon.

You see here he also comments that academia has been subverted and is only just waking up.

The abrahamic deviation has negated all of these operations as 'evil' and 'satanic' and negated these powers. This is why Christians and Muslims destroyed statues, to cancel the 'numen' according to the jewish talmud. Abrahamism is the progressive religion, and they spoke like leftists in ancient Rome.

Auspices, mantis seers, work through sympatheia to communicate with the gods directly and clearly. It is how the Roman government ran.

Christianity is not an institution generating religion, it is an entryist institution capturing and destroying one. This is how our greatest institutions are 'generated'.

You have to die and be reborn to have true "shamanic" powers. In Hoc Signo Vinces.
I know I'm not a euro, just going to throw that out there for you.

In the times of the bible. the pegans they where reffering to where retarded afro-asian dessert cults. they where not refering to based celts, slaws or germans. you can easily see it when you look what is criticised about them. our peganism never had that degree of degeneracy as theirs.

We Graeco-Roman pagans

can you answer to my questions in my thread? how are you a pagan?

he just killed that faggot in self defence nothing to solve here. the edge kid tried to play games with the wrong one.

This is why Christians and Muslims destroyed statues, to cancel the 'numen' according to the jewish talmud. Abrahamism is the progressive religion, and they spoke like leftists in ancient Rome.

I am not a pagan since I am not a rural Roman peasant and the man in you r pic would refer to himself as a heathen not a pagan since he doesn't honor Jupiter and his pantheon.

calls odinists pagans

Christians made up the term ''pagan'' so I don't know why you're using that term. Odin is actually not the one I focus on, I focus on his gods. The Jotun. I guess that makes me a Jotunist.

You mean this?

Are you wotanprnce by any chance?

I didnt see that post. and no I'm not. I am a pagan because I have an ancestor's cult and my family has practiced such operations for generations, and in my own lifetime I find this to be a beneficial, principled and true system of spirituality, where the others only offer negation and are the cause of our modern problems.

I studied jewish communist tactics and their beliefs, and Christianity was the first version of it used to destroy Rome, and all of our great institutions founded in these spiritual practices. It was the first Bolshevik revolution of the West. Islam also has many of the same principles and effects on the Arab world, when centuries prior even Arabs sat in the throne of Caesar and practiced these beliefs. It is the original religion, and the abrahamic religions are modernist progressive proto marxist institution capturing ones. This is rooted in spiritual action and essentialist principles.

Pagans are coping hard for losing to Christianity based on their own might is right principles.

I am a Christian myself. But the Christianization of Europe was shameful and happened through foreign interference. And it was not about bringing the gospel to people but about expanding the power of secular actors. This was still happening in Saxony in the 9th century.
They were neither our principles as pagans nor our principles as Christians.

I am not a pagan since I am not a rural Roman peasant

Who tf uses pagan like that kek. Even its historical use refers to polytheistic worship, not just "country dweller". In any case, being a technical pagan isn't complicated at all, you just need to partake in polytheistic worshiping, it's that simple.

those are literally fallen angels you worship, they were just mortal men. the story of vikings fighting giants = humans fighting nephilim fallen angels from the bible. the fallen angels raped women and bore giants. its like page 3 of the bible. there are giants that walked on earth, born in rebellion to this creation, and they hate humans. and humans, for all of history, have sacrificed humans to the nephilim. the book of enoch teaches that the fallen angels taught humans things like forging steel, how to cut roots for drugs, how to induce abortions, etc. the descendants of the nephilim are the modern day people we call "jews", aka the synagogue of satan. the jewish elite (ashkenazi) are NOT humans. they walk like us, talk like us, but are not us. they are descendants of giants and do not possess the divine spark

1 Peter 2:12

Live such good lives among the pagans that, though they accuse you of doing wrong, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day he visits us.

1pbtid jew thread by the way
they want you to turn away from the one true God, and waste your time with any old shit they can find

Christians made up the term ''pagan''

No the first to complain about pagans ignoring their new religare were the Sol Invictus cultists. by the time the Christians were complaining about rural peasants ignoring their new religare the practice was already old.

Why Rome?

Rome inherited much much older cults and religions, and it is the last intact religion with a capital T. It was syncretised with Celtic and Germanic gods all over, many of Europes cities were founded by Augustus, the oldest in Germany and France and Britannia, including London and Colchester. York crowned Constantine as a pagan and has a statue up to today. We spoke celtic latin and it forged out institutions and myths in existence up to today. It was revived during the British empire, even if it was kiked. Sadly any greatness of celtics and germanics is too remote to be known clearly, and it is a patchwork, it cannot generate institutions. The patchwork was filled in by cousin traditions of Graeco-Romans. We had a giant temple of Mithras for initiation in london with celtic worship.

I am proud of Britannia's Roman history.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_founded_by_the_Romans

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Roman_towns_and_cities_in_Germany

You mean this?

No, this:

*last intact tradition with a capital T

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Mithraeum

discovered after WW2

buried by Christians

The Roman temple, when it was originally built, would have stood on the east bank of the now covered-over River Walbrook, a key freshwater source in Roman Londinium. Nearby, in its former streambed, a small square hammered lead sheet was found, on which an enemy of someone named Martia Martina had inscribed her name backwards and thrown the token into the stream, in a traditional Celtic way of reaching the gods that has preserved metal tokens in rivers throughout Celtic Europe, from the swords at La Tène to Roman times (compare wishing well.) The temple foundations are very close to other important sites in the city of London including the historic London Stone, the Bank of England and London Wall. The original Mithraeum was built partly underground, recalling the cave of Mithras where the Mithraic epiphany took place.

Who tf uses pagan like that kek

People that care about what words mean and reject newspeak.

my other post answers it

we abandoned them

they were negated by christians as evil

and you can see the answer in the graphics I am posting in my last few posts.

Do you know what the Bolsheviks are? I have already answered you about our cultural destruction.

The Cult of Alexander was the most popular in Rome, next to Achilles, every Emperor tried to be Alexander.

It was raided and looted by the Christian, who then forced Christianity on Europe by the sword. Lying about how people willingly converted.

Dont play mind games with us, jewish bolshevik./

>>>>>picrel

It's not "newspeak", language evolves, and that was already its historical use, not even the modern use, which just adds a little nuance to the term.

I'm not a pagan, but that is the direction one should be going in. Christianity led us where we are now. We need to throw it out.

Alexander's body is lost to this day, likely used for jewish blood rituals like the Romanovs.

Keep following the slave sect of judaism, and preening like you are worth something, cucks.

The norwegian government threw him in prison for doing nothing wrong.

False. The word comes from the latin paganus and was coined around the 14th century. It's for retards and only christians still use it to mock the old religions.

But I like varg and I don't feel offended by anything he did or said even though I'm not white by his standards (brown eyes). I don't like white people and humanity in general.

Last thing for you.
When the Europeans brought Christianity into the Americas, the shamans knew exactly what they were talking about. Death/rebirth is a shaman thing represented by the snake, who sheds it's skin to be reborn anew. Nature does the same thing. When a shaman goes through the process it is said he "enters the serpent from its tail and leaves through its mouth", so the shamans just assumed Europeans were snake worshippers when they met them.

He's a Norman.

Varg is full of shit. The guy is a loser, he's proof whites are doomed.

Monke > jews > japs > niggers > whites > pajeets
Imo

at the highest levels of initiation this barrier between 'you and i' is entirely dissolved. It is seen in the cult of Venus Erycina when the hierodule 'becomes venus', or in the imperial cult where the emperor carries the numen of iuppiter or apollo as his own intimate faculty, or the pharaoh who 'becomes Montu' in war (identified by greeks as ares or apollo).

How much of the vessel's self is left? Or rather, is the resulting entity's mind purely from the channeled god or is there an influence from the channeler?

Despite the flag, I am not Germanic. My people's ancestral beliefs have long been buried by successions of civilisations taking over my nation. Even if I were to worship the gods from the soil I have been living on most of my life now, or just look to European gods in general, I still have to diverge quite a bit from my ancestors.

Also, are you saying man is an agent of the gods no matter if he chooses to work with them or not?
If you're that concerned I haven't read Evola, I plan to eventually, I just haven't ever felt the pressing need to drop everything else and do it right now. Even if you call this being blinded by materialism, it's rather I don't feel like anything that happens in this pretty rotten world can really hurt the immortal soul. I might get momentary scares out of instinct, but ultimately I'll be fine.

inb4 but the world/mankind doesn't have to be like this

No. But I have no interest in "saving" people through violence or mind control (enough more than willing others for that), and I have failed to find any other means than to await the cleansing of time.
Perhaps this is more of me being unwise. Time will tell. As unconvincing and rancidly dogshit at argumentating as I am, sadly very little can change my mind too, so no offence if you are so certain in your words (I don't claim to be in mine) but I take no heed.

What exactly is the native Japanese religion?

because I don't believe it?

How is he a loser. Successful musician, independent, never worked in his life(?), has an underage wife and many kids.

Also britanon I truly appreciate the effortposting but I've been doing other stuff so I haven't been able to keep up with the thread much (on top of phonefagging). In a few minutes I should be able to sit down at my PC.

It's something about stabbing yourself

Finnish religion is shamanistic like native americans (trees have spirits etc.) not pantheon based. Although later on it took such forms, the spirits were elevated to the position of Gods.
Anyway Christianity (Lutheranism specifically) has some good values for our people as well. But for our own religion to be practiced we need shamans (Tietäjä) and there's only one guy I know of that could be considered as such.

youtube.com/watch?v=eMXGruO8zBU

successful musician

Yeah no he's not.

never worked in his life

That's an achievement now?

has an underage wife and many kids.

That's just the default. Most losers have a wife and kids. That means jackshit, the guy can't even assemble a table and can't even tell what a white person even is. Get the fuck out of here.

so no offence if you are so certain in your words but I take no heed.

No offense taken, I am simply speaking the truth where I can, if people listen that's fine, if they don't it's not my problem. You are not doing badly, you are engaging quite well on your own level. That's enough.

Also, are you saying man is an agent of the gods no matter if he chooses

I'm saying that man is not merely the material, but there are superior forces, not only gods but dark forces. Based on deep study of ancient traditions, and as alluded by one of my graphics, we are in a period characterised by occult powers of negation. People talk about freemasons, jews, and even UFOs, but no one ever talks about this. We are in a period characterised by death and dissolution, promoted at every level. Think of it like the dissolution of a mandala. Without these generative life bringing forces we succumb to entropy, death, decay and madness. See picrel from the shaiva oracles, 6,000 y/o.

Evola's genius is that he anticipated many of the currents now being uncovered in idealism, quantum reality, and ancient wisdom, ahead of academia. So he has a real inheritance and the ancients also knew. But he is not the be-all-end-all, he is rooted in the actual ancients, so you will find yourself going on a true journey, I have a vast library of ancient writers and philosophers after being opened to this wisdom. There is a metaphysic behind all his words you will find among the ancients.

I think that you will find many of your values reflected in the aristocratic doctrines of initiation and awakening propounded by Evola. It may be a bit advanced for now, but the doctrine of awakening seems to be up your alley, you seem to have a naturally independent nature that could be developed and matured. This is a good trait in a man, if cultivated properly and protected from dark forces.

Here is a beginner text, it's very short, and designed for beginners.
files.catbox.moe/z6uo7g.pdf

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Odin, Thor, Zeus, Mars, Talos

Not a single person in west have a genuine belief in any of these.

Why should I fake my belief to pretend to be a pagan? it would just be a LARP

he got kicked off the welfare program

Hey fag are you going to tell me how allowing women to be prostitutes in society dismantles egalitarianism and empowers men.

It was the Cult of Mars that provided virile fertility and prosperity through War.

How much of the vessel's self is left?

It is a total transformation of consciousness and expansion of awareness. This development of Being is what we lack today, under Christian conceptions of universalism.

There are absolute metaphysical principles, and this is where the 'principalities' and sacral reality comes from. There are real and practical operations and a palpable experience of the supernatural without mystical flights of fancy. Emperors sought to initiation.

The Initiatic and Wisdom form of religion is completely antithetical to the Christian form which is inverted. The essential meaning of every civilisation lay in the triumph of form over formlessness, of 'cosmos' over 'chaos.' at the heart of the classical conception of life and the State

Even at the heights of Christian mystical theology—which ostensibly follows this path—we nonetheless encounter a persistent dualism, one that seldom achieves the authentic, substantial transformation into the "other." In such a dualistic framework, the separation remains, and corresponding divine persona serve as mere expressions of a particular phase within the process, rather than the dissolution of the duality itself.

This is because of Christianity perceiving god as external. The hallucination of another world and the pursuit of a messianic salvation beyond the present are the refuge of the failed, the outcast, the accursed—those incapable of embracing and willing their own reality. It is the symptom of souls marked by insufficiency, tormented by suffering, whose very essence is bound to unfulfilled desire.

Genuine knowledge arises only when one is capable of transforming one's consciousness into the very object of understanding—the metaphysical principles. This is where you get the theos aner. Thus, only that which emerges from direct, personal experience is rightfully considered 'knowledge.'

Not a single person in west have a genuine belief in any of these.

Speak for yourself.

When they worshipped pagan gods, they were bogtrotters. Christian Europe was at the pinnacle of power.

Hi Jacob Anthony Mcqueen. Are you going to tag me 30 times and then ignore everything I say again? Deluded Chrigger. You're still not allowed here after how you've done Queen Vic. Bloody oath mate.

Keep in mind this guy spams boards telling everyone to be a pagan and assume anyone that disagrees is a Christian, he also can't make a single argument without sperging out.
Also never ask him for empirical evidence regaurding rome and how christians made women equal to men in society, he will freak out and have a tantrum.

what is a pagan thread

Excised from the Roman empire mate you are. Britannia Excelsus!

You were that mad you made an A.I image.
Anyway truth is your a low iq retard sperg without any social life and your whole pagan roleplay is the most queer retarded faggot shit I've heard in my life. The christians have some gay shit to answer for but jeez you are bottom of the barrel.

Anyway have you made a syllogism yet for how egalitarianism is a logical entailment of banning prostitution?

prove it. post your altar and the remains of your last sacrifice. (if youre gonna fake it make sure I wont be able to reverse-search)

nooo dont respond to the topic and people asking questions

why are you striving to be better, whites cant aspire to greatness! what are you doing??

Great I'm glad you feel inferior

Ive made it for coulthart actually. hence the UFOs, but why not give you a taste I figure, you are as alien to us as anyone after all. Calm down mate and enjoy the thread.

wife is from rich family with hyuge property in the country side

Have you not understood the TAG yet chrigger? what is your argumentation
faith-based Chriggers larping as gay dyer while ignoring posts is the biggest technicality pilpul verbal rhetoric mind game ive seen yet.

no we have truth

here is pilpul and rhetorical games to misdirect you

very honest. very jewish of you.

youtube.com/watch?v=6AcayfIoUFU

You don't have to make altars to believe in something. That's like saying ''you're not a christian if you don't have a church in your house.''

I don't have to prove my faith. My faith is none of your business. But don't speak for me because you don't know me, nigger.

Nah, not christianity. More like people who realy hated christianity. The 60s leftist in the west for example. Look where this ideology is based on. Its not based on christianity, its based on people who where hating it, among all other values it had, like families for example.

Actually during the iron age the average person was wealthier than during the middle-ages. All those cathedrals and stone castles were built by taxing and exploiting the poor. Before the chieftain had to actually attempt to be liked and charismatic because if he became a tyrant you could just chop his head off. In the middle-ages the rules of nature were replaced by the rules of the church where power was given by God. Christianity (and papism especially) was the proto-globohomo. According to historians the early middle ages was very "globalized" in europe due to the church. It was only when the states outgrew the church that this system started to break down.

But if you are a Pagan you really should be making offerings, otherwise you are no different from the 95% of "Christians" who don't even pray or go to church.

still having a melt down bro, that sucks, you clearly like fictional history you make up in your head and you memorize it but you don't understand how to construct arguments, many such cases for spergs alike.

The paganism we know is a lie. It’s just Jewish Kabbala with the artwork changed. The black sun is Saturn. Runes are corners and edges of a 3D planar transparent cube.

We may never know what actual European paganism was truly like.

you should be making offerings

Not necessarily. Only if I want my gods to do something for me. But the giantesses already laid my life out for me so there's no real need. You believe fate isn't fixed, but I do so everything plays out the way it should.

if u dont have an altar or havent even done a Blót sacrifice then youre objectively a larper

you're a larper if you didn't do any rituals

Entirely false. Belief is belief. It doesn't require action. You're confusing faith with the old German lifestyle. Which is impossible today because that would require me to kill everybody. lol

noooooo why are you replying to a poster with a metaphysical explanation for initiation

nooo produce a syllo-a syllo, uhhhh a syllogism, ignoring the details articulated in the post I replied to

dont post actual interesting stuff

angsty bitchy ex wife nagging nonstop until thread is archived, stalking over multiple threads

Not a good look for anglos mate. self-owning again. Christianity produces a form of jewish rabid mania.

Even better.
His name is Kristian.

the guy can't even assemble a table

Of all the things to criticise him for you come up with something he obviously can do?

Pagan Gods led to the greatest conquering people the world has ever seen, the Aryans, expanding from Ireland to China.

Pagan Gods made Europe the most cappable, developed cultured and architecturally advanced people in the world by the height of Graeco-Roman civilization. Europeans completely conquered North Africa and the Middle-East, making as far away as India under Alexander.

Meanwhile Christianity destroyed the Graeco-Roman world, opened the gates for the barbarians, colapsed civilization, and plunged Europe into becoming a backwater shithole mogged by India and the Middle-East.
Christianity got obliterated by the Sand peoples in the Middle-East, North Africa and even in Iberia and the Balkans. got mogged in all it's coastlines by literal villages in frozen Scandinavian fjords, and raped by Horse-riding Magyars in the East.
Christianity destroyed Europe and it took over 1000 years for it to recover.

It was only in the late Medieval period, with the rediscovering of Pagan values under Chivalry and Pagan culture under the Renaissance, that Europe once again returned on track to dominate the world as it had been doing since the times of the Aryans.

It doesn't require action

If you have actually opened a single page of the heimskringla/sagas/eddas then you would know worshiping odin (or any other norse god) is *absolutely* action-based.

youre not just a gay larper, youre actually retarded

Are you actually defending this guy? You're really gonna go there?

I worship God.

That is what Jesus teaches.

Who is greater than God?

That is why I am a Muslim.

Is there anyone greater than God?

No. There is only One God.

God is the greatest.

Do you think you are the first?

Thousands of years, people worshiping idols.

Entire peoples and generations destroyes by God.

Over and over and over. He sends a messenger.

The messenger says:

Worship only God!

They mock him, keep to their ways.

Some believe, many do not, every time.

Then they are utterly destroyed forever.

Are you any different? No.

Nothing is new here.

thinks I worship Odin

I don't worship Odin, I worship the Jotun. I merely believe Odin exists but he's not getting my time. He tried to kill the Jotun, while banging as many of them as possible. Yeah no, he may be the allfather but he's not in a position to tell me shit.

youre not just a gay larper, youre actually retarded

Nah you're just mad I'm not a christian fag like you. That's what that is. Stop talking for me and fuck off, faggot.

No king but Caesar. (John 19:15)

Entire peoples and generations destroyed by God.

They are warned, every time, but they don't listen.

Worship only God, or you will be punished!

But they do not care, they are caught up in their ways.

Then when punishment comes.

Why is this happening to me?

Real simple. You should have worshiped God alone.

not really. germanic pagan europe was far behind even the early medieval christian kingdoms. and the pagan roman empire consisted of like 35% slaves that had slave revolts so massive that they desolated entire regions of the empire. every major empire have been abrahamic for a good reason

I don't worship Odin, I worship the Jotun

why?

Whats the problem?

Because they're the gods of the gods and the ancestors of all white men. And they're not hypocrites but opportunists who remain consistent. They're also the most powerful beings in existence so it makes Odin look like a fucking joke. That's where the true power lies.

The guy called me a nigger, I'm 100% white. That's what the problem is.

Did he? Why?

The biggest faggots I know usually admire this stuff. It’s like star signs for men. You’re a fag. Even Islam is cooler than this pagan trash forced faggotry

Cause he's full of shit, like I said. The guy's a loser. He thinks everyone without blue eyes is non-white despite green and grey being much more rare and characteristic of whites than blue. I bet he believes red hair is non-white too. It's cringe.

Star signs are real btw and Emperor Augustus led his military campaigns and imperial cult by them. He was said to have a penetrating gaze in his eyes that could stop any foe and the moles on his body formed the constellation of the bear, bringing good fortune and joy.

NOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY ARENT YOU A DUMB ZOGGED GOY LIKE ME

kys shit stain

high iq historically accurate post
christianity is only for the mentally ill
it's not meant for the sane and strong

The best part about christianity is that it doesn't even deny the old gods. Yahweh simply says he's a jealous faggot who wants you to focus solely on him. It also mentions the giants so when christians deny their existence they're contradicting their own scripture.

They're not my roots. 98% of it is fake. Shallow self-empowerment slop made up by post-Christian new age swindlers in the 19th and 20th century. Actual Germanic traditions were oral traditions that died together with the old tales and the old gods. Few written documents exist, they all have been made by Christian missionaries and priests during the Christianization era.

Pagan festivals are nice insofar that no Arabs or Americans visit them. But they're full of stupid feminist hags who think they have magic witch powers.

Because Paganism is for nerds and rootless Americans. You're not a golfer just because you're wearing a golf hat.

Every time I see a little hammer swinging from somebody's neck that person is a faggot.

I'm Catholic. Pagan larpers are extremely cringe.

I'm Muslim. Catholics are Jew-worshiping, feminist-enabling, sodomy-promoting child rapists. All of them. But I agree with you on Pagans. They're faggots.

good question
because cucked italy sent a pope to england in the 500s to convert the anglo saxons to christianity from paganism and it worked, apparently.

Catholicucks larped at being Romans for a millennia wearing Theodosius' skinsuit of it, let the real pagans try it this time, inferiority complex negro

Yahweh simply says he's a jealous faggot who wants you to focus solely on him.

holy shit, this

It goes to OG aryans

Why do you choose to worship a KIKE on a stick instead of RETVRNING to your roots with Odin, Thor, Zeus, Mars, Talos, etc?

Because all of those are just as fake as Jesus. I worship the Higgs Boson, giver of mass.

Why aren't you a Pagan

it's lowkey cringe

My grandma would be sad.

He got rejected by his own people for being scum, now he spends his days seething on X about how Spaniards fucked his wife or whatever.

Is it possible to learn Astrology in modern age?

Well in Islam, other gods are denied: La ilaha ella Allah: No god except Allah

this, but sadly, gods and people go hand in hand, Europeans as they exist today aren't pagan because they aren't those Aryans anymore, the impetus of those conquering pastoral people ground eventually to a halt, 5000 years of domination have come to an end and the continent has wholly reversed to modes of being and thinking that make it ripe to be incorporated with afro-asiatics
even the clowns on Anon Babble if push comes to shove would deem it better that Europe start speaking hebrew rather than feel like they have anything to do outside of abrahamism

Yeah, totally possible. Astrology didn’t get wiped out the way some other ancient systems did, there are still living traditions with solid foundations. Sidereal astrology is a big one, especially in Indian (Vedic) contexts, and it takes into account the precession of the equinoxes, gemstones, gods, etc, so it's not stuck in some outdated framework. Western astrology is still around too, though it's more psychological and symbolic these days, having combined with medieval alchemy and Jungian psychology. You can even go deep with Hellenistic sources if you want that older flavour, they are linked with the old gods and precious metals and gemstones, and are acknowledged in the Roman state as the purview; a lot of those texts have been translated and studied now. The gemstones hold a relation to the astral houses and planets, functioning through sympatheia, this was how greeks divinised and how Roman governed the state. We still use Caesar's calendar based in this wisdom. Basically, there's a lot out there, and modern tools actually make it way easier to learn, apps, software, scanned manuscripts, entire courses online. it's very much alive and learnable. You are a pagan? I thought you were a muslim, sorry.

That's a celtic latenne armor design which the romans adopted after fighting the gauls. Their most famous helmet was also of celtic origin.

Tell the pseudo Asatru hipster that you want him to organize you a proper Asatru birthday party with twelve virgin slave girls raped and sacrificed in your honor and he either turns Abrahamic in less than a second or things get really interesting.

What the fuck does this mean?
Religions are inherently social phenomena, if you're the only believer of a religion you're basically just a schizophrenic.

I fucking hate this misanthropic shit

and you think worshipping a dead jew rabbi is better?

Why would you need a altar and sacrifices?

Thank you very much Brit bro. I learned a lot from you. Especially thank you for introducing that book from Konrad. I've always admired the British and their aristocracy.

As an Iranian living in Iran, we endure lots of anxiety and theological problems under Mullahs rule. Iranians are under yoke of the black turban Seyeds/Arabs since 1400 years ago. They have infiltrated our culture, our language and wiped out some Iranian religions.
These last years were particularly challenging for me spiritually since I've grown a hatred for Islam and all Abrahamics. I've had strange dreams and experiences too. That's why I'm into this stuff.
Sometimes I feel like I'm wasting my time and these problems are unsolvable.
Mullahs threaten us that the alternative to them is feminism, alcoholism and onlyfans. This has been bothering me too.

the mental type of 99% of these people on Anon Babble is normgroid-adjacent, they are very concerned with appearing "normal", but unlike full blown normies at the same time a bug in their heads tells them something is wrong
so they seek a very timid safe-ish regression to something that isn't too abnormal(a nebulous"Christianity" like their grandparents) that at the same time will hopefully make the bug go away, even if the bug ultimately comes from afar and won't go away without more radical but antisocial reforms

this is why they have this kneejerk reaction to paganism, it's subconscious prosocial posturin, they don't even really know why they react this way

I am. I believe in mother nature as in natural system of laws and believe in their good nature, not some greek or swedish fairytales.

Dudes music fucking sucks and he’s a fucking narc.

Thanks Iranian chad. You are embarking on a wakeup of inner forces and that inner flame that was part of the traditional aryan cult. The inner domain is what was lost, with these exterior functions, so I encourage you to embrace it. I posted the London Mithraeum temple, and the Mithras cult is an ancient Iranian deity that was neatly introduced into the Roman pantheon. Iran has a wonderful history that you should be proud of and I feel many are

alternative to them is feminism, alcoholism and onlyfans. This has been bothering me too.

This is a classic divide and conquer. In reality, as the sperging Aussie was angry about, I've had this discussion with another anon in the previous thread.

Ive said before stigmatising sexuality 1. gives it into the hands of the enemy, so only jews and commies rule it, and use it as a weapon against the puritan society they develop.

Romans saw the interaction of Venus and Mars as the nexus of a virile sexuality that was responsible for the flourishing of society, agriculture and virile masculine powers. I don't trust the semen retention threads here either, especially because we are not in a sexually open age but a puritan age. All of the sexual liberation is under this Christian guilt. It was the Christian Temperance and Puritan movements with NGO funders and early suffragettes that spawned the original feminist movement and matriarchal ethic we westerners are under today. Men should be in charge of sexuality, it is a human function and an energy centre that feeds the rest of the energy centres. Purity is a nexus of devirilisation and control, and I see the islamic puritanism in this light as well. Men were in charge of sexuality in Rome and no one was more masculine than them. Anyone of any social class could see a prostitute and it was a rite of passage for boys, who then develop a healthy command of women, not a virginal incel fear. Of course prostitutes and marriage were two different castes.

I would say the seyed muslims are not as degenerate as the others, as they are anti-democratic in many ways, and at least it is not the donmeh jews that rule Saudi Arabia, but it must hurt having them predominate over Iran with such a vast and rich history of its own. I hope you see that tradition get to shine again, besides Rome, it is another proud ancient heritage that understood the Aryan civilisational mandate as an imposition of form over chaos, in the rallying cry:

Asha karā! Drauga zāna

Act with Truth! Strike down the Lie!

This is the attitude I have for the sexual question as well, it can be ordered and virilised, and doesn't have to be used with marxists promoting feminism and trans femdom weird shit to emasculate men. Asha karā, fren.

Konrad

You mean Evola?

Not a single person in west have a genuine belief in any of these.

this. Lithuania was the last place with pagans in Europe and none exist today. Pagan traditions were broken and you can't just renew them now. As well, you would have to be 80iq retard to believe in sun or moon, but at that point you could believe in anything. Christianity is the same thing, you can still larp as a christian but even in Nietzsche's times christianity was dying, nowadays it's either tradition without belief or a complete larp alltogether.

Purity is a nexus of devirilisation and control,

Only children are without sexuality.

So to emasculate men under the fear ethic of women, effectively reduces them to eunuchs.

Malthusian social engineers, said, in the jaffe memo, that women lacked the virile drive to pursue bonds and create unions, and to depopulate, we simply needed to separate them from men and liberalise them. What they claimed has proven true. There is a rise not only in male virgins, but female virgins, especially in asian countries.

This would be seen as a failing of the regal function of the king, the crops no longer grow, men and women no longer mate and have children. The virile element of Mars and Martial love has dissipated.

Mars was an agricultural god, and March is his month. This is where the notion of the king's peace, as seen in the Augustan peace under Martis et Pacis (mars the peacebringer), emulated later by Napoleon, arises.

picrel, Napoleon imitating Augustus

March was the first month of the year in the archaic Roman calendar, the start of the military campaign season and the agricultural season (spring)

Life Generation is a male power, not a female power, as is painted today in our matriarchal cult.

We are at all time low birth rates because of this loss of vital numen function.

Hadrian and Sabina as Mars and Venus, Venus is arming Mars.

If you are Japanese, please stay out of it. You are blaspheming.

Ignore pagan praetorians killed him first his rampant faggotry

The christjew lies when it breathes

You see, the Mullahs and their devout Shia supporters, even Sunnis, uphold a certain moderation in their sex life that I admire.
The virginity of both girl and boy is a cherished value. There is an immense stigma on sex before marriage among these people. That's why their families are such a safe space, at least to me as an external observer. My family is torn between traditional values and modernism.

Personally, I can't tolerate western dating culture, white marriages, unmarried women having pets. Like I abhor the lifestyle advertised via friends-tv series which many Iranians are adopting. This is like a deal-breaker for me.

Men were in charge of sexuality in Rome and no one was more masculine than them. Anyone of any social class could see a prostitute and it was a rite of passage for boys, who then develop a healthy command of women, not a virginal incel fear. Of course prostitutes and marriage were two different castes.

I can't accept this way of life.

Because Christians effectively rooted out my ancestors religion and my ancestors mostly transferred their traditions and beliefs through shamans/elders/druids and those were often killed so with them the religion of old was lost too.
Majority of current day scriptures were written by monks in Iceland with a very warped look on what paganism was

why were you lying?

The biggest problem for me, as the aussie anon was raging to me about, is the equality of women.

I do not like western dating culture either because women are not only equal but your superiors. Women get 200 matches and brag about it to your face, while you are left with the crumbs. This is an unnatural matriarchal condition that we have been led to by temperance and puritan movements as the first stage of feminism. I am anti feminism.

Such a lifestyle was possible because women (and sons) were legal property of the father until death, even after marriage, unless the husband adopted her. The Roman could see prostitutes and have a guaranteed virginal wife when he came home from military service.

Jupiter regularly cheated on his wife Juno and she remains faithful and loyal, never leaving him. Male virility was a common part of the Roman culture and this is remarked upon here:
Where they say they explicitly used suffrage and sexual shame to destroy this civilisation.

Prostitutes were a different class.

This culture is highly patriarchal. It maintains both the sanctity of marriage fully, while also having a caste of prostitutes, both material as well as spiritual, such as the sacred prostitutes of venus erycina who would 'become venus'.

These are powers and faculties of the human, sexuality must not be stigmatised, otherrwise your enemies control it. It gives power over men by women. I do not think women should be equal, I do not want men to fear sex and to feel guilty, and this represents the ideal for me. You may be different, that is your choice, everyone is different. Another problem of egalitarianism is the idea of a universal ethic.

What is fit for me may not be fit for you, and we respect that, having our own personal cults, not dominating the other. You live how you want to live, so do I. As women and sexuality should no longer be weaponised over us. Men are different, but raw egalitarian individualism is destructive of hierarchy.

What are you blabbering about psychopath?

The face of the emperor was not permitted on coinage for brothels, as it was sacred, so other images were used.

Stabbing some one the back 17 times in self defense

And why wouldn't he?
I always wear a kilt, because I'm Celtic, I'm French and I was born in Brittany.

I would say the seyed muslims are not as degenerate as the others, as they are anti-democratic in many ways,

The islamic republic founded by Seyyed Khomeini is basically rule of the warrior-clergyman. These Shia clergyman and Mullahs are literally warriors too (which is often ignored by western journalists). One example of this was Nasrollah.
They are sinister. Saudis and other golems are "normal" compared to these guys. These guys murder and torture people first and look for justification second. It's really strange. I've witnessed this after Mahsa uprisings. That's why I was drawn to occult and deeper understanding of what Abrahamism is about. I have some theories on them but no proof. I think their act of worshiping towards Ka'aba hinders their sense of good-judgment that causes them to drop basic human decencies.
We saw this in ISIS carnages too.
Of course not all of them are like this, but the potential is there. And it's actualized among the few and that is enough for it to be discernible.

>Konrad

You mean Evola?
No, I was referring to "The Challenge to the Auspices"

I am pagan by personal nature but i do no ceremonies or prayers or actually, genuinely believe there is a nigga throwing lightning bolts up there. Perhaps animist with some vague chauvinism i.e. IE values is more accurate.

Babylonians and Assyrians were both Semitic.

WE WERE THE REAL EGYPTIANS. All polytheïstic pantheons are a mythological reflection of the family unit. It is tribe dynamics projected in abstract thought

I am Pagan. Norse Pagan/Irish.

euros need religion asap
they cannot function without it

rule of the warrior-clergyman.

Interesting, naturally I am looking at it as an outsider, so I have a textbook view of them. At least they seem to be opposing Israel. I would like to hear any insider info and insights you have to give a Westerner.

No, I was referring to "The Challenge to the Auspices"

Ah right, you were inspired by that one? I remember. My mistake. Yes there are a lot of great academic texts that now carefully analyse the evidence on its own basis, without Christianisation, caused primarily by Edward Gibbon's Roman history, which held that Romans were nihilists who didn't really believe in religion until they were saved by the coming of Christianity. To the contrary they were highly pious people and took that matter seriously, it just doesn't strike people because the PIE religions all have a sort of panpsychic view of reality as a divine quantum reality.

Other great books are Divus Julius by Stefan Weinstock, Apollo Augustus and the Poets by Miller, and Dictator by Mark B Wilson, which is cited by Konrad, full of esoteric knowledge carefully linked together, especially regarding the imperial cult, which was a species of the broader cult of genius worship. For centuries, Christians took the 4th Eclogue of Virgil, which was about Apollo or Augustus, to be about Christ. To show you the extend of cultural blinding.

You could spend a while in the citations of these texts learning more and more if you are a fan of learning, it will give you a perspective most lack, unfortunately, but that will certain vitalise you. You will love it. Enjoy fren.

spic

caused primarily by Edward Gibbon's Roman history,

A big problem in the west is that most of our historiography is Marxist (historical materialism), Masonic or otherwise progressive and Futurist (Toeffler's wave theory of increasingly complexifying information).

A true aristocratic and spiritual historiography is needed, as from this stems all of the orienting action of a weltanschauung.

I recommend Herodotus and I, Claudius

interesting. looks comfy anon. will relax to this.

hopefully we can return to this sort of vitality

Those aren't Pagans.
The Pagans worship Semiramis and Nimrod and Lucifer.
Thor, Freya, Loki, Tyr and Odin are the planets.
In the Bible, they are just called Arch Angels.
The other thing, Aryans aren't white.
Whites are the true descendants of Israel.
The kikes are the Aryans. That's why they follow the Talmud. Because (((THEY))) are the Pagans.

Egyptian Mythology is also based on Babylonian Paganism.
Osiris is Nimrod, Isis is Semiramis, Horus is Lucifer.
Micheal is the Sun. Horus did not defeat the Sun.

Why worship any god? Are you a child who believes fairy tales?

Retard detected

Because I don't give a fuck about superstitious nonsense, Christcuckery or Pagan shit is the same to me, none of this is real

well for one, I was raised christian so that's the true religion. if others were right my parents would have told me about it. also I want to have friends and fit in my society and no one is pagan.
also about the whole being a foreign religion made by Jews, it helps if you reframe it to imagine they were all swedish men who were never jewish

You will pay for your insolence, slave.

AVE CAESAR

NO KING BUT CAESAR

NO KING BUT CAESAR

NO KING BUT CAESAR

NO KING BUT CAESAR

NO KING BUT CAESAR

NO KING BUT CAESAR (John 19:15)