I own $0 in stocks and was broke when the stock market was at its highest but its so heckin bad now that its tanking

No i told you non-jewish

MAGA WILL KILL YOUR 401K

MAGA WILL KILL YOUR RETIREMENT

MAGA WILL KILL YOUR HOUSE DOWN PAYMENT

I dont have any of these though

But jewish=american?

THEN WE WILL DANCE IN THE ASHED BROTHER

Because the entire market is extremely financialized and industries are connected in ways we can't directly see. That's why a housing market crash caused a general recession in 2008. Banks lend out so much money that too much expected profit loss in one sector can tighten the interest rates on everyone else and some other industries can't handle the sudden loss of cheap loans and everything falls like dominoes.

So houses are going to be cheap, why is this le bad again?

Big businesses cover the costs of daily operation with loans that they qualify for with stock as collateral. They then pay interest on that debt with monthly or quarterly profits.
If the collateral suddenly loses a fuck ton of value, their interest rate spikes and they *have* to generate more profit in the short term via raising prices and cutting jobs which increases market volatility which causes a general loss in stock value and on it goes.

Econ-101

You aren't going to make it, sorry

Sounds like it was their fault for building everything on a retarded system that was doomed to fail

Housing prices will not fall + you'll be jobless and worried about where your next $100 slice of bread is gonna come from.

Congratulations, you are now a ""'degrowth""" leftists who hates Regan and wants a return of public spending on infrastructure and a functioning regulatory state.

Sounds like a born again Christians eschatological fear porn, except it's greedy faggot Jew flavored.

Take your meds schizo

Housing prices will not fall

You just said it yourself theyll be forced to have a mass sell off to pay off their loans

you'll be jobless

Nope my job is recession proof plus tariffs means more jobs here.

Sorry thats not gonna work on me i dont believe in the retarded left right dichotomy.

"i twook collwege cwasses, i know what will happen."

It's ironic how little most of these MAGA retards actually understand about their own politics

i here you anon. my retirement/brokerage is about 70k total. lost ~5k through all this and honestly don't give a fuck. its an opportunity to purchase cheapies imo

Youre the retards doom posting about stocks falling when its beneficial for you in the long run lmao

Stocks get sold off, retard. Durable assets like houses go up. Tariffs only mean job growth if those industries have fuel to burn in order to grow or that growth happens on the government's dime, like the CHIPS act. A recession will completely tie up America's surplus capital, especially since there's nothing stopping those in control of that capital to just take their business elsewhere.
If businesses open up in America during a recession, they'll be foreign owned and expecting American workers to compete with the third world, so workers protections and wages will be next on the chopping block.

Durable assets like houses go up

Is that why housing prices skyrocketed during the 2008 recession?

just take their business elsewhere.

Where exactly would they take their businesses?

If businesses open up in America during a recession, they'll be foreign owned and expecting American workers to compete with the third world, so workers protections and wages will be next on the chopping block.

Now this is some retarded levels of doomposting

Bro you literally sound like a Christian promoting eschatological fear porn about the tribulation, rapture, and Jesus coming back, except your fear porn is greedy ass Jew flavored.

You don't even believe your own bullshit because if you did, you would just buy far into the money puts and profit off the drawdown.
Fuck outta here, nutter, and take your meds, schizo

Big businesses have massively moved into housing *since* 2008 as a hedge against stock volatility. The technicality that that recession happened to start with a housing market bubble burst doesn't matter now. They'd take their business to the third world if they want a producer or a 1st world country that isn't slapping tariffs on everything if they want a consumer.

Try actually responding to the doomposting. Where is the investment capital going to come from for domestic growth if interest rates spike? We already have a huge economy paying people 3rd world wages for 3rd world work, it just hires undocumented spics. Trump's policies will necessarily expand that economy and create a class of white people willing to work for effectively nothing.

Are most people just retarded or something?

Yes. They believe whatever their corporate media masters feed them.

Why would europe do this to us? So much for all that 'allies' talk.

I think you replied to the wrong person there

It's actually a good thing in the long term when the economy implodes!

Keep telling yourself that...

oh no the S and P dropped 10% after doubling over the past five years!!!! Jesus is coming!

Invest in growing your own potatoes then nigger. No one cares

In two days

think about the poor heckin' billionaires

no I don't think I will.

Big businesses have massively moved into housing *since* 2008 as a hedge against stock volatility. The technicality that that recession happened to start with a housing market bubble burst doesn't matter now.

And now theyll have to sell off houses to cover their loans.

They'd take their business to the third world if they want a producer

Then theyd have to pay tariffs

a 1st world country that isn't slapping tariffs on everything if they want a consumer.

Such as?

Where is the investment capital going to come from for domestic growth if interest rates spike?

All money didnt just suddenly evaporate over night.

We already have a huge economy paying people 3rd world wages for 3rd world work, it just hires undocumented spics. Trump's policies will necessarily expand that economy and create a class of white people willing to work for effectively nothing.

That was already happening already with or without tariffs.

Oh no cheaper housing and cost of living the horror

I own $0 in stocks

Now you own -$100 in stonks. Dow Jones will be contacting you about the $1000 you owe.

it always goes down faster than it goes up retard - people are panicking as usual lmao

The market is falling in reaction to forecast conditions in the real economy. Smart money thought the tariffs weren't going to be anywhere near as bad as they are and now everyone is terrified. Extreme, generational fear exceeding even 2008. Consider the possibility that the stampede of well-dressed, clean-cut men in suits rushing towards the exit might mean they all know something you don't.

heh all these people are scared and im so smart for pretending there's nothing to be afraid of... don't they know that nothing ever happens??? >:)

The ruling elites of today are the managerial class, who sit in offices doing nothing all day and have stock portfolios and 401ks and such things.

They're just noisy because they have access to the media class that tells them what they want to hear. You don't have to pay attention to it.

Stocks go up and down but when was the last time a stock market collapse heralded something good?

I own around £300k of stocks in my pension fund. Mainly US companies like Tesla, Amazon, Microsoft, etc

Prices of goods and services rise as the stock market falls, meaning even if you don't own stocks you'll still suffer. That's basic Econ-101 that sadly we're obviously not teaching in schools anymore.

when market tanks, poor get laid off and jobs dry up, and Trump goes golfing with Saudi billionaires

Yes the people with everything to lose are scared the people with everything to gain arent worried.

generational fear

So something that can be expected to happen every 20 years or so? Oh no who ever could have forseen that a generational event might happen every generation or so, what a shock.

the panickers are panicking so you should panic too

No, I don't think I will. The market panics every few years or so, that's just what it does.
Every single time so far. This is literally the "buy low" phase of "buy low sell high". Or did you think "buy low" meant something else entirely?

I own around £300k of stocks in my pension fund. Mainly US companies like Tesla, Amazon, Microsoft, etc

haha, you 'used' to own 300k hahahahahah
NO CRYING IN THE CASINO

The last time it collapsed housing became very cheap, maybe houses will actually be affordable now.

muh 2 days

Aww is this your first market correction? Don't remember the time the DJIA went down 28% in just two hours?

You're right, "generational" understates it. I'm struggling to find the correct superlative to sufficiently describe what just happened on April 4. Trump just torpedoed the world order, redefined America's place in it, and enacted the dumbest protectionist regime since Smoot-Hawley. Consider the possibility that you're being irrational and that Trump has made a huge mistake.

>Are most people just retarded or something?

Yes. They believe whatever their corporate media masters feed them.

propaganda works, its cheap and effective, incredible return on investment for billionaires like Rupert Murdoch and Elon Musk

Trump just torpedoed the world order, redefined America's place in it, and enacted the dumbest protectionist regime since Smoot-Hawley.

That same world order lead most people being broke and a couple of people owning all the wealth. Unless youre rich or a boomer whos about to cash in your 401k this is purely good thing.

You're right, "generational" understates it. I'm struggling to find the correct superlative to sufficiently describe what just happened on April 4. Trump just torpedoed the world order, redefined America's place in it, and enacted the dumbest protectionist regime since Smoot-Hawley. Consider the possibility that you're being irrational and that Trump has made a huge mistake.

In Trumpspeak its called 'Winning' hahahah

Good, people will finally be desperate enough to French Revolution you

>Trump just torpedoed the world order, redefined America's place in it, and enacted the dumbest protectionist regime since Smoot-Hawley.

That same world order lead most people being broke and a couple of people owning all the wealth. Unless youre rich or a boomer whos about to cash in your 401k this is purely good thing.

enacting the single largest tariff tax increase on the consumer is not a good thing, but dont worry, in a week or two he will do another rugging and his buddies will cash in yet again, its a great investment opportunity right now to get blue chips cheap and catch the dead cat bounce when Trump rugs us again, you can then ride out the Trump Depression without becoming homeless maybe if you're lucky

why aren't you hysterical like me

Because I've lived - and prospered - through much worse market corrections than this one. You kids seriously have no fucking idea what a real market panic is like, get back to me when they have to turn off the trading computers and shut down the markets for a week to let everybody take a cold shower and renew their lexapro prescriptions. Also because I have a functional brain and over the last few years noticed that most stocks were massively overvalued and a market correction was imminent, and as a result of my preparations I have a fair amount of cash that I'm looking to invest as the market sags.
So go ahead and panic like a good little lemming. But sadly I won't be joining you, I'll be too busy making money.

That same world order lead most people being broke

No, it didn't. The almost complete capture of the regulatory and poetical processes. You are poor because your poverty is in the interest of the very same rich people you just elected into office. The sad part is that you think you elected some kind of anti-elite populist. You looked at the two factions of elites whose horse-and-pony show previously ruled the roost and thought Trump was anything but a representative for a third faction of elites. All of them care about themselves exclusively. None of them give the slightest shit about you.

You don't have to believe me, unfortunately. The time for warnings is well and truly over. You're about to find out for yourself.

wow you don't sound crazy at all. good job anon, very convincing! you should take it to trafalgar square, you'll get a big crowd!

You don't get it. I'm not talking about the stock market. I'm talking about the actual, real economy. The stock market is not reacting to tariffs in a vacuum. This is not a flash crash followed by a return to normal. How can I help you understand that the mechanisms and balances of the actual economy are the greatest risk here, not the flashing red lights and sirens? A tsunami is approaching, and we're on the beach. You're seeing a bunch of people run from the tsunami with your back to the water and making fun of them for panicking on such a bright and pleasant day. You're about to find out.

I like how liberals spent the last 20 years saying stock markets are evil and a way for the rich to steal from the poor, then suddenly because dumpf was the one that did something that fucked with it they suddenly become the ultimate economic experts that will defend it to the end.

Again

You just said you have no money, stocks, or job. What does it matter to you indeed, a pathetic humanoid vermin

I'm talking about the actual, real economy.

No you aren't, because nothing has happened yet in the actual real economy.

You were warned.

if you didn't get in on that bull-run its just proof that your stupid. and you will be poor your entire life.

you were warned

oh no not le warning from le babbie hysterique however shall my shattered psyche recover from this trauma?