I have yet to see a good argument against this

I used to like public transport. I bought a car after 2 santa claus looking motherfuckers in dresses sat down in front of me on the train and started playing ISIS wailing on speaker from their shartphones. You can take the keys from my cold dead hands, you fucking scum. Not sharing space with dangerous shitskin wannabe terrorists. All you had to do is appease the racists by keeping this walking shit out and people would have grumbled a little but eventually learned to live in your carless gunless nerd utopia. Now they never will. The next generation will talk like Americans on these subjects. Played yourself.

Do all these people go to and from the same places at the same time all the time? They don't? Oh. Cars.

When I was a poorfag riding the bus I was literally the only person I ever saw (ever) using a large backpack to transport groceries. Maybe it’s just a white thing and having the ability to plan for the future.

He’s right about owning a home though. You can’t do it without owning a car.

I don't want to

its not that bad. there are cute girls.

people don't all go from point a to point b retard

the argument is the amount of workers needed to produce those cars.

You work for the sake of work.
Cars are made so other branches that support them thrive.

so calculate how many employs you need to make the cars the bus and the bicycle.
In addition to said adjacent industries that are needed.

The problem starts when you are so centerd around a industry like cars in america that you whole nation becomes depended on them and you end up like faild union like america.

Everything in moderation

You are not honest

Car

Winter

To be retard even tho you flag indicates otherwise, you should get the benefit of doubt.

Dieses.
If you wanted to make public transport for normal people, just deport every unnormal people(s).
8.8/10 problems solved.

Public transportation is only tenable with the absence of browns

Drive this shit during snow, rain, when you need to transport something like your obese wife.

Yeah lemme just carry like 50lbs of groceries onto the bus, also forget about buying in bulk

i see fat retards making this argument, you know, fucking retard, if we had walkable cities you wouldn't need to get 50 pounds of groceries at a time, right? if you can easily walk to a store down the street you get 10 things at a time then go back when it runs out because it's right there. the only reason you have to get 50 pounds of groceries is because kike oil companies turned the entire country into a fucking strip mall and the closest grocery store is 10 miles away.

nah, you just shift the problem and you start blaming each other.

If its not niggers you then start blaming people on wrong religion then on states then on villages.

Europeans are so retarded. In the southwest and the Midwest mostly, you can drive for 8 hours at 70 miles an hour and barely do between two large cities. Most people have to commute at least 3p minutes to work. The bus or a bike can never work in these instances. We can't just hop on a train an be in another country in an hour

total scooter superiority

I have yet to see a good argument against this

Niggers.
Stab you on the bus
Steal your bike
Rip the battery out of the scooter.

In your car you can run them over or shoot them with your perfectly legal sidearm.

or go 15 km on gravel roads to work on a farm

Enclosed battery heated quadricycles.

Brown suburbs are always temporary. Nature quickly reclaims them in their entirety, and Africans are both baffled and terrified by anything alive.
It only takes a season or two before tall plants are growing from gutters and what remains of the "yard" looks like a jungle again.

Yes, apartments would still be a problem. We should all live in HOMES, not apartments. And yes our neighborhoods should also be 100% White.

this too.

I walkj every day 1.5 km to the nearsest shop and back and buy what I need for the day. in addtion

KEK WTF who cant carry 50lbs what kind of pathetic retarded nigger do you have to be have such spaghetti arms. AHAHAHAH 22kg and he thinks thats to heavy. AHHAHAHAHAHAAHAH NIgger just use a fucking rucksack instead of some shity plastic or paper bags that brake the second you touch them.

Which option keeps me the furthest away from coloreds and poors?

driving your pig wife to a farm

IDK maybe just don't get pig wifu

This mutt is sentient
scary

In big countries it's borderline impossible to use public transport in lots of places cause it barely even exists if exists at all.

it is SUV car / truck
you need 2 tons of steel to protect you from niggers
or you can just shoot the niggers in AnCapistan

Some of us are.

Why are those the only 2 options?
Why must I live in the pod or live around browns?

Lol you don't even walk a mile. The nearest grocery store to me is 5 miles away. You yuropoors are fucking stupid

t. has never sat in a regional train without muslims, niggers or gypsies

have you seen a grown man on a scooter? It's honestly one of the most pathetic things you will ever encounter while walking about a city

you are retarded, get a popper sized scooter and drive it naked

I have never. :(
Women, such as yourself, are part of the problem.

Ah yes, the famed official pasttime of Italy.

have you seen a grown man on a scooter?

I did.
A friend of mine is lawyer and owns his personal "court scooter". He always wears a coat that flies in the wind, when he has to go to court.
He also farms frogs on the internet.

Yes you could hop in train and be in different Staate (country) if you weren't such bunch of whiny easily manipulated niggers.

How about drive with your car to nearest train station, switch and drive 10 minutes at 300 miles an hour to work space? High speed trains would work wonders in the US. But your rather drive 3 hours to work and back and waste time doing nothing.

Nah look at me

I dirve 3 hours to work waste 5000gallons of fuel, use up my car and its parts even faster just to sit in traffic jam for a hour more.

you save money moron, money you can use to get more fat and more stupid.

Europeans don't have S-P-A-C-E

Why would i walk a mile if i have multiple shops closer? americans are retarded. Get better zoning laws you morons.

Yes. I drive an Audi RSQ8 here in SoCal. I enjoy my fast, comfortable car. I enjoy it more than the train or bus full of smelly and dangerous homeless, niggers, and illegals. I have the money to not share public space with such individuals. Even when I'm stuck in traffic, I can rest assured that no one will invade my public space, and that I will get to enjoy my music and air conditioning in the car that I own. I know that I will not get bedbugs from my Audi, nor will some crackhead randomly start dancing or panhandling in the back seat. I can relax, knowing that no one is going to try to snatch my phone or bag if I loosen my grip for a second.

In fact, when people in all countries become wealthier, they start building American-style suburbs (because everyone wants their own house without sharing walls with strangers), and buying large (because no one wants a CitroenFiatWhateverthefuck subcompact), and multiple cars (because no one actually enjoys public transport).

You can call these things virtues all day and night, but all available data will point to the fact that this is just a big cope for your poverty.

Why does one bus carry 60 but the autos with 4 seats only carry one per car?
Should be 15 autos, not 60.

No trains won't work here because we have niggers and spics. Fucking idiot

I share a country with black people unfortunately

Why are all those people heading to the same place at the same time?

You couldn't walk any further, you'd be shivved by Muslims

Niggers, and you will be full of that

The fact that you haven't gotten a (You) this far in to this thread is just sad. This place is comped.

It's not either or
You can use all these types if applicable
Of course if your country is overrun by niggers than lol, tough luck

I'm not urbanite scum

I won't ride the BPH

I refuse to sit next to someone that smells like shit

I will not be near mentally and unstable people that are prone to violence

I refuse to be held hostage by braindead government employees' schedule

I choose personal freedom. Literally nothing good happens on public transport and I won't be Daniel Penny'd because some mentally ill nigger threatening to kill me has a racial weakness to being restrained and just dies.

What 'argument' has been presented? People distributed in different modes of transportation take up different amounts of street space. Ok. So?
I get that you want me to assume the premise that taking up less space on the road is somehow desirable and very important but I simply don't agree. We have room for cars.

if you answer A, your problem is not apartments

Yeah, my problem is race. I don't want to live around brown people, yes, this is true. I'm a White person. I want to live only next to other White people.

setting that aside for the moment, the sheer amount of space here also means that a “high speed” train ride actually looks like

the closest station to your house is a 45 minute drive in the opposite direction

they only run three trains a day because there’s not enough ridership to sustain more

train took you to the city center and our cities are only slightly smaller than Denmark’s islands so you’ll need to hop on a light rail to get closer

you’re still two miles away from your destination so on to the local bus you go if you don’t feel like walking for another 40 minutes

want to go home? Time to do this all in reverse, hopefully you don’t need to transport anything you can’t hold comfortably for four hours

If there’s one thing I could force euroniggers to understand it would be population density

I reject your gay hypothetical. I'd rather live in a white village. I did eat breakfast too so don't even try that shit.

The best answer. Wait until the euros reach critical shitskin mass. Eventually public transportation will be seen as vile by them too.

Scooters are for fags, remove cars, add more trains and we are good.

remove cars

nope, how about remove niggers but keep cars anyway.

people are not allowed to travel in cars together? Those are 60 cars, if you really wanted to transport 60 people then 12-15 cars would be sufficient

WHY DONT POORS UNDERSTAND CARS ARE DOPE AND HELP KEEP US AWAY FROM POORS LIKE FUCK MAN WHAT DONT YOU GET ARE YOU A POOR?

The only time I take not a car is when I want to go downtown and get fucking drunk. Then I take my scooter.

Most people have to commute at least 3p minutes to work

that is the fault of cars, dumbass, if there were no cars things would be built closer together. kike oil and auto companies created the problem so they could sell a solution.

Niggers

kike oil and auto companies created nearly 4 million square miles of landmass

niggers are another retarded argument. only niggers take public transport because public transport currently sucks and White people can afford cars. once public transport becomes better than driving White people will start using it too and outnumber all the browns.

they designed it that everything would be far apart, retard. nobody drives across the country to work everyday.

Scooter solution is only possible if you live in a nigger free country.

No one's stopping Lashawndre from financing a used Dodge Challenger with 200k miles @ 42%

Public transport is full of niggers in the US.

niggers are another retarded argument

nope, that's the main argument and we're not budging.
the other ones are

Cool. Feel free to ride in the piss soaked bus seats next to crackheads all you want anon.
I will drive my own vehicle with nice heated leather seats instead.

White people will start using it too and outnumber all the browns.

A group of 5 feral niggers is enough to ruin the experience of every white person in the wagon. Hell, one nigger is enough if he's charged.

you can fit 60 people in only 12 cars, nigger

you'll always be obese

Lol, look at the NordiCÜCK caring about "muh rules" for (((Lime))) and similar ((((Scooter-rental)))) companies.
I bet you are double cuck because yoi are a silly Lutheran or a Calvinigger

I am actually pretty fit, I weightlift and go hiking every other weekend.
Try again poorfag busrider.

as a follow up to the attempt to have people give up cars is an attempt to compromise our standard of living.
due to uber, having a car is actually a capital good that can be used to provide services.
plus I can run over niggers with my car. I can't with public transportation unless I'm a bus driver.
correct, and that is better than starving to death in a nation with trash everywhere like haiti and india.

Train car loaded with 50 whites

1 heckin niggerino with a fire extinguisher

Who wins?

It doesn't require an argument. You live in Europe where space is a premium. The first world lives in the USA where even the poorest faggots have an acre of land underneath their trailers.

But that being said, it is disingenuous as fuck to put 60 people on one bus yet assume every single person must be driving his own car and not riding together. Standard cars hold a family of five. SUVs can hold maybe 10 people. Though not like it matters - unless you're talking about New York, then everyone has infinite space in the country that matters.

pretty fit

not actually fit, just pretty

every other weekend

not everyday

kek

If there are no cars how are muslims supposed to enrich crowded areas with their vehicular attacks

Who wins?

The jews

I have yet to see a good argument against this

vax cancer

lol it is not the scooter companies that get in trouble
it is you if you get stopped and fined

left

Go wherever you want, whenever you want to. Take with you almost whatever you want.

center

Go wherever the bus tells you it will go, whenever it gets there. Can only take what you can comfortably carry for a few blocks (hopefully no one tries to steal it lol).

right

Go wherever you want, whenever you want to. Can only take what you can put in a bag. Conditions may suck if it’s hot, cold, or inclement.

Car is best, then bike, with bus being dead last and only something you do if you have no choice.

The Gringolem is right, tho. Bicycles are for faggots and limpwristed "muh environment" weaklings
Bus is meh. Scooter is fun but not a Real Option. Everybody SHOULD have a car as proof of masculinity

Are you autistic?

I have yet to see a good argument against this

More than $80 worth of groceries

In America we have space and don't want yo be around niggers.

Fun, fun on the autobahn

I'm going to go driving for absolutely no reason in urban areas with my internal combustion-powered engine at 5 mph and leave my car stationary for as long as possible in the right-turn lane (blocking bike riders) just out of spite.
you brought this on yourself, faggot.

maybe if there werent so many retards standing in the street the cars could move

every transportation activity is a walk to the government welfare office on the ground floor of the mixed-use shithole shack you call home

No wonder you always, always fucking lose.

you can do that, it won't make you lose the several hundred pounds you need to lose, and i will still outlive you by at least 2 decades most likely.
why are you obese? why not lose the weight instead of trying to justify it to yourself?

Well if you're a tiny country where you need to stack up your citizens products in a warehouse, I guess you could care about that. But in the big, beautiful, huge United States we have tons and tons of space. We have so much space it's just empty but so pretty. I like to get into my huge SUV that gets 27 MPG and just drive around and admire it. Sometimes I'll see another person and wave at them.

Low reading comprehension is a sure sign of autism, busrider. Why don't you just make more money and actually buy a nice car? Is it because you are worthless loser with no career prospects.

You have to go home Achmed.

I like to tap bikers in the bike lane with my car, it's funny to watch them fly off their bikes and get all mad. I saw one get hurt real bad once, he slammed his head on a pole, that was hilarious. Anyways you might not live as long as you think.

This is why birthrates are so low in Europe. I've got 3 kids, 3 pets, and me and my wife to feed. We go through a 25lb sack of rice every 3 months and 12lbs of meat every week. I'm not wasting an hour every fucking day picking up groceries when I can spend an hour a week getting everything we need and throwing it in all inside my Tahoe (which is also a comfy no-nigger zone with climate control).

it won't make you lose the several hundred pounds you need to lose

correct, it will not, however I will be successfully spiting you and every other stupid fuck who posts these 1pbtid "muh walkable cities" threads.
I may be obese, but that will not stop me from performing my civic duty.

freedom

slavery

gay and annoying

gay and shitskin

Simple as.

fat boy, doing something mildly physically intensive twice a month is not going to get you into shape, and hiking does not get you into shape that's why boomers do it. it's a low intensity activity. you're obese, and lifting isn't particularly healthy either but you most likely don't actually lift much either so it's fine.

Wow, we have a badass here in the thread, watch out.

Keep projecting fatass poorfag busrider. Get a real job so you don't have to ride the bus next to NIGGERS you loser.

nice LARP fat boy, even if you did do that, why not get out of the car and assault them with hands? you fat fucks would collapse in 30 seconds, that is why.
does it hurt being unable to touch your toes?

Racism
Is
Not
An
Argument

dude, you told everyone you're obese by thinking walking around a forest TWICE a month is a physically intensive activity. I mean for you, it is. YOU'RE FAT AS FUCK LMAO! and how far do you hike, i doubt its more than 3 miles around the local state park.

Yeah but niggers are you illiterate retard/master baiter

If you do not have a vehicle that can travel at a street legal highway speed in the USA, you cannot move freely across the nation. You will need to take a greyhound bus or an amtrak train.

does it hurt being unable to touch your toes

don't need to.

60 people on a bus

Good God

No one is arguing for poor people to get cars anon. You can ride around your smelly bus all day and night, we don't care

but if you wanted to, you couldn't. you can't do things. you're physically incapable of doing things. i can do whatever i want because i'm in shape. i can drive a car if i want, i can ride a bicycle if i want. you can't ride a bicycle, you can only drive a car, because you're out of shape and will never be in shape.

Please import 3 million Africans and place them in your most important urban centers and try to use public transportation for a year

Scooters are for children. If he rides a scooter, he's a fucking child. A child with a law degree is still a child.

never getting over how this nigga said

umm actually i walk around the woods sometimes im in shape

NIGGA WE WALK AROUND EVERYDAY YOU DO IT TWICE A MONTH YOU FAT AS FUCK GANG

time it takes to bus to work: 1 hour 30 minutes

time it takes to drive to work: 15 minutes

You will never win in this situation. Long, circuituous, slogging bus routes will never be able to get you anywhere relatively distant in a reasonable amount of time. I can easly commute 25 kilometers in 15-20 minutes by car, it would take a bus fucking forever to travel that far even in a straight line just due to the constant stopping.

they always leave motorcycles out.

they just don't want private transportation.

You know what?
I was thinking about losing weight, but since that pisses you off too, I'm going to put it off until tomorrow.
Good job.

Because it's disingenuous pro-globalist cuck mind control.

But it is funny :(
Once an anger-boomer chased him to the court, presumably for around 4km on foot(!), just to tell him to not drive so fast through the 30km/h zone.

Why do europoors think living stacked on top of each other and not owning a car or a big house is somehow a flex?

it doesn't piss me off. you're hurting yourself. im just laughing.

Yeah lemme just carry like 50lbs of groceries onto the bus, also forget about buying in bulk

Grocery delivery apps

bicycle/scooter in winter

Cities clear the roads, cars would have trouble as well otherwise. If you do not like the cold, man the fuck up and just put on some extra layers

transport building materials

Just get them delivered

if you do not like the cold, man the fuck up and just put on some extra layers

he's brown. White people aren't scared of cold weather.

yeah you can't fool me.
if I'm obese, then that means my car emits more due the increased force required to move my fatass for you bicyclists and pedestrians to breathe.
Work = Force times Displacement, cocksucker.

4 wheels

Yeah I have that already

Because, niggers.

Bus only goes the meandering route that it does. Will probably only take me near my destination if I don't have to get multiple buses anyway. Takes longer because of wait times, going between buses, and meandering where I don't even want to go. Trains have similar issues. Also with both you have to deal with other members of the public who are often rowdy, smelly, loud etc. Doesn't work in non-homogenous countries or countries with low social harmony in general.

Bicycles are dangerous until literally everyone is cycling only. Very limited speedwise which doesn't work in the modern world where you routinely need to travel many miles. Crushes your nutsack and ruins your spermcount and T levels. Get to work sweaty, dishevelled and exhausted. Scooters are ass, not even going to explain.

Meanwhile cars:

Takes me exactly where I want to go, no detours or changes.

Don't have to deal with some smelly loud obnoxious asshole screaming down their phone in a foreign language.

Air conditioned and relaxed, not arriving drenched in sweat.

Actually exceeds 20mph so I can fucking get places unlike a bike.

Room for luggage, family and friends.

Takes me to comfy remote places not served well by public transport routes where I can relax not surrounded by underclass filth.

People who use busses and bikes don't have houses. They live in condo apartments and are not allowed to do DIY. Very sad.

A bus will only carry 20 Americans maximum before exceeding it's weight limit

A four car train does not carry a thousand people fuck off. Maybe if you pack them in like sardines yes but of course public transport nogs can't into human dignity. 15 busses yeah I guess? 625 cars? Where are they pulling that figure from? Most cars have at least four seats. Many people travel with family and friends. So if all the cars were full that would be 250 cars, not 625. Obviously people do drive solo, with a passenger, with two passengers etc but why specifically 625 here? Fucking nonsense.

correct.

Bus would work but there is no separate compartment for Brahmins.

lol, retards.
one person by car...
That's why you keep losing.

Public transportation also costs as much as a car; because it's required and that is the limit where people use it at all or not.

Give me white only public transportation and I'll gladly use it. Until you can give me that, shut your faggot mouth.

Threadly reminder that Hitler loved walkable cities and wanted every citizen to own a car

This is why birthrates are so low in Europe

White American TFR is at 1.57

niggers are another retarded argument. only niggers take public transport because public transport currently sucks

there's not that many of them on public transportation to be honest in my city. i'm a city with bus service and a metro rail, but they seem too retarded to figure it out. they seem to prefer constantly getting fucked by financing cars. even the urbanist cucks who always talk about walkable cities don't even use the public transport. there's maybe 5 other people on the train, on average on any given day.

yes. cars are great for recreational purposes, which is why every family should be able to cheaply afford one.
but when bad city planning makes it obligatory to own a car for job opportunities, there's a problem. also weighs down household finances if both parents need to own a car. that often both need to work in the first place due to depressed wages is another issue altogether

Nigger you are advocating for riding the bus you shitskin faggot. Get a real job you fucking pussy and maybe you could actually find a gf and quit being a faggot broke dick loser who disappoints his parents.
Who the fuck can't afford a decent car? Lmao.

Exactly. When there is efficient and easy public transport, the roads are less crowded and driving is easier. When cities are designed to facilitate this literally everything is more efficient.

Heres a good argument.
Youre gay and i dont consent to your faggotry. Sage and kys.

The actual most efficient forms of transportation are VERY simple and we've known this forever

Scooter / motorcycle / electric bike

Easily the most efficient by far. They can ride in little lanes 1/2 the size of a normal one or less, they cost 1/20th as much as a car, they use less or no fuel, they can be maintained by some guy in his backyard.
The downside is if the weather's bad you're not going anywhere, and you can't use them for hauling things. They also don't work as "family vehicles" that can be used to go out on the weekends with family - something that you must do because that's necessary economic activity in a developed country.

Some little golf cart / quad utility vehicle

The second most efficient vehicle. Cheaper than a car, fits on a smaller road, can handle worse terrain, uses less gas, also easy to service, can be covered so it's useful even when snowy or rainy.
Basically a cheaper car that can fulfill almost all of the jobs of a car, can't haul a trailer and would struggle with a cross-country trip, though.

These are the two most efficient forms of transportation. Literally just use golf carts like they do in the villages, smaller than normal cars built to be cheap, durable, serviceable, with the bigger cars still available to haul things and pull trailers.
Allow golf carts on city roads and you solve a lot of these issues.

Like, it's sort of absurd that leftists don't just shill for golf carts instead of cars. They do almost everything a car is supposed to do, but use 1/4 as much metal and get 50 mpg on some of them, and electric ones are already widespread.

Is it because it's a rich person thing? A white thing? They shill for electric cars that at the end of the day that weigh 5 tons instead of shilling for a 1/2 ton golf cart that's already widely produced, serviced, and practical.

Yeah lemme just carry like 50lbs of groceries onto the bus

Yes.

Cars don't spread viruses as much.

Extremely compelling argument.
I 100% agree.

A car offers you autonomy as you aren't reliant on the government for the ability to travel

1PBTID

you aren't reliant on the government for the ability to travel

Yeah except that you need a license from the government and you need fucktons of government infrastructure (roads, stoplights , etc) and government-subsidized businesses (e.g. gas stations) to drive anywhere.

bus

low IQ ethnic minorities on public transport

bicycle

scooter

low IQ ethnic minorities behind the wheel and in every alley waiting to pounce

Cities in the US have bus routes, and major ones often have rail. They typically go sparsely filled, and car infrastructure expands. Its not due to some larp like big car or big oil. Its because people don't use public transportation. If it was used, it might be profitable in which case it would be expanded. Why is it unused? Nigs and druggies. Start executing drug dealers and enforcing public nuisance laws, and the roads will improve.

Inb4 cycling

Bycicles are toys and exercise equipment, not a serious mode of transportation

if we lived in an aryan high trust community I suppose it would work, but leftists decided this was "le bad", so with this your dreams of public transport die too, and everything else too, even trans rights since muslims will put a stop to that when they are the majority

me and the boys ready for zaking public transport

Yes you could hop in train and be in different Staate (country) if you weren't such bunch of whiny easily manipulated niggers.

How about drive with your car to nearest train station, switch and drive 10 minutes at 300 miles an hour to work space? High speed trains would work wonders in the US. But your rather drive 3 hours to work and back and waste time doing nothing.

I live in one of the areas of the United States that actually has “decent” public transportation,
Including trains that travel both thru the city, to surrounding areas, and to other cities on the East Coast.
Public transit can still easily take two to four times as long as driving, unless both the destination and starting point are near the same specific public transit line, and that transit line happens to be a subway or elevated train line that only stops every 1/2 mile or more.
The other day I went to a grocery store on my way home from in town, figuring I’d grab a bus home, and the next bus was a 40 minute wait, for an inner city route.
I only had to walk a little over a mile, and got home with 40 lbs. of groceries before the bus I would have had to wait for even got to the stop I would have been waiting at.
I think the bus was still a couple miles from the stop when I got home.
At best, in inner city routes, taking a bus might be twice as quick as walking.
At worst, it can be the same speed.
Even the high speed trains aren’t that quick, since they usually stop at half a dozen stops between cities to maximize the number of passengers, resulting in trains that can’t go maximum speed.
For longer distances, Americans just gly, because it’s way more time efficient, and airports act as “Public Transportation” the way that trains do in other areas of the world like Europe.