Did Trump just destroy the working class? Based

be prepared for lots of bullshit larping like this

lol get fucked faggot boomer

lose 15k job because tariffs turn it into 22k job

repeat 100x

you don't NEED to have revenue for your small business, it's just a WANT

The working class person in this picture is the HVAC guy, who will now be doing fewer HVAC installations.

sounds like a you problem
maybe don't base your livelihood around unlimited cheap chinkshit

I assumed it was for a commercial building, but the more likely explanation is fake and gay

And then everyone clapped.

cost of a product already in America has magically jumped up

Hahahhahaha anyways good. Everything should be built in America by slaves (blacks) it’s what our founding fathers wanted

just wait 10 years doing no business until the factories to produce it here

you are poor and always will be

Yeah.
Probably made up by some 20 something yuppie shithead who rents an overpriced downtown broom closet. Has no idea what a residential HVAC system should cost.

be prepared for lots of bullshit larping like this

When the spics started getting kicked out wholesale we were all supposed to starve.
Every building site in the country was going to halt and not one stick of 2x4 would be attached to another ever again.

The end of manufactured goods might be a bit overblown.

my HVAC guys

ie a boomer and his team of illegal spics

lmao tradies are going to just start throwing random ass numbers out for these fucking "wealthy" fucks who have been making money by doing nothing but leeching off people who needed a place to live lol

but i have 30 houses and if they all break at the same time, how am ***iiiiii*** supposed to afford that?

my renters don't pay me in advance, my lifestyle is 100% supported by them; it's not fair!

lmao get fucked "home owners" every tradie i know is getting ready to fuck you hard lmao

what do you mean the new roof i got 3 years is already shit?

what do you mean my multi million dollar mcmansion is already leaking and becoming absolutely worthless?

what do you mean the spics i paid weren't worth the initial cheaper labor?

lmmaoooooo these fucks think "buying a house" is a one time transaction not an ongoing expense lmmaooooooo

shouldn't have outsourced the labor traitorous jew. i will laugh when your stocks go to zero

no but construction is half scammers today

Top kek thays the oldest spic trick ever. Quote 15k for hvac. Then charge them 22k cause suppliers or regulations or whatever. Tell them to fuck off and theyll say they can do it for 12k but wont hook up the ducting and have the inside unit leaking gas and all that halfass spic work.

ding ding ding ding ding
and you forgot to mention the "flip them" really means just paying spics to perform the absolute lowest dollar work they can (which means nothing is even up to code and WILL fail within 5-10 years lmao) and then get their other boomer buddy to sign off on it.

it is fake and gay
rheem makes hvacs in the US, as do a lot of the others

needing a HVAC

just open the window lol

oh also forget:

just make your own hvac system

"makes"

anon there's a big hvac factory in my town. i'm not sure what is actually MADE there versus just assembled.

In the room with

What the fuck sort of term is this?
Somebody tell this faggot his little phrase isn't catching on

Learn to hvac

the working class?

What does Literally Who-stein on social media do for work?

Has no idea what a residential HVAC system should cost.

Kek. 15k? 22k? Not around here.

Does he think Trump just made them up? The MAGA mind is truly a baffling thing

it's fucking wild when you realize that "wealthy" people actually spend less money because they either get ridiculously good deals on shit, have other people offset their costs, or just pay illegal fucking labor like lmaoooo

as someone who has never paid an illegal spic to do anything, and would absolutely never even consider it, it's fucking wild.

like the house i am now, had a shower put in. there is just exposed fucking drywall, like the fucking paper is torn cuz the cut wasn't even clean, all over the shower. like not the bathroom, IN THE SHOWER. lmao

owner will deal with that in about 10 years lmao

This.

What a fuckinf joke of an administration.

Are the tariffs forever and meant to spur domestic production or are they just a negotiating ploy (to negotiate what?)

heat pump

God I wish. Where I live it gets too cold on some days in the winter for heat pumps to operate.

no, worker class has been slowly destroyed for 30 years

Learn to hvac

Learn 2 Cool

Are the tariffs forever and meant to spur domestic production or are they just a negotiating ploy

Yes.

We put a liberal tax on everything now. Go find a liberal plumber if you don't like it, bitch.

tariff is 30%

price goes up by 45%

Many such cases!
How cold is that? Even R32 should be good to -25C or so, and you can always boost with resistive, or gas even.

it's both

Who gets an imported furnace or a/c? This doesn't make sense.
T.constructionwagie

should have bought American, faggots

it's okay because it doesn't affect me personally

way to ru(i)n a country

You don't NEED the HVAC, you just WANT it. There's a difference you need to learn now.

So what then?

Trump places these tariffs, often violating existing trade agreements, and on a wholly spurious basis. Ok. So then he gets these countries (the smaller ones that don't have any leverage over the US) to cut what few real tariffs they actually have against the US. Ok... and then he doesn't follow through on his part of the deal.... and expects them to take that too? That level of dishonestly might just get them to cooperate with bigger players (Europe, China, Canada, etc.) to.fuck with the US purely out of spite/vengeance. Plus all this uncertainty means nobody will invest a dime into US production (or production anywhere).

Art of the deal I guess.

Sounds more like a small business.

Why did the price jump 46%, what country had that much in tariffs that is holding up our HVACs?

And then this results in their supplier being in Wyoming and costing a fraction of what the same parts would have cost 30 years ago.

Sounds more like a small business.

Or a lie. Too lazy to do a keyword search on X.
I would bet 30 bot accounts are running the same sob-story.

Na. 15k for a good sized house is about right, depending on where ya live.

Na. 15k for a good sized house is about right, depending on where ya live.

In Yankeeland, maybe. Down here 15k would be top of the line with all the bells and whistles and a beauty-fence to hide it.

Show me on the doll where the tariffs touched you.

I live in a 3/2.5 house and got mine fully replaced including the ducts in 2021. It was a little over $8k.

He must be talking about a commercial unit because I Googled typical costs of HVAC units and the most expensive was $4k (not $15-22k)

Secondly, maybe he should buy American:
archovavisuals.com/which-hvac-systems-are-made-in-the-usa/

instead of buying shitty Chinese made slop which probably contains led and poisonous material

For a residential HVAC to cost 15K it would basically have to be both separate top of the line furnace and AC units and basically needing all the duct work replaced along with it.

this buisnesses will blame everything but their own greed to raise prices. and if they can find an excuse they will definitly use it to their advantage

how many units are you gonna need? because the largest house hold unit top out at around 4-5k. I know your too retarded for math, but its not the tarrifs.

Imagine being so fat you can't live without AC.

2021

And the cost of everything has doubled since then so checks out

imagine having an "HVAC guy" and unironically paying 10s of thousands to just REPAIR it so you can get cold or warm air. cucked beyond belief
lmao

north side of property is low lying

3-4 times a year floods from heavy spring rain

realistic fix is install drainage culvert under road

$$$ + getting county involved

decide to buy RC boat instead

tariffs

I voted for this.
But seriously, recommendations for RC toy? I'm thinking jet boat because the hovercraft and air boats seem hard to control.

Anon Babble jet boat

Also since liberals were crying about greed when biden was president, they'll just blame tariffs now even though tariffs were a liberal policy until they dropped the ball. It's always hypocrisy with these faggots.

unironically this is what trump campaigned against, nafta letting a hvac company move to mexico.

1pbtid

That's what the heat strips are for. Heat pumps are for chilly days in fall or spring.

HVAC

Who needs heating anyways?
FAGS, that's who.

My uncle is a general contractor he was just telling me about how he and all his subcontractors are jacking up prices too, not because they need to, but because people with too much money will pay anything if you blame tariffs lol.

Reading this back I realize it sounds like "my uncle works at Nintendo" lol, but it's true

Good. Make these fuckers pay their fair share.

American standard / trane, ICP (carrier) and Lennox all moved their production to South of the border
Sheinbaum will bend the knee, or those companies can bring that work back stateside. There's no reason Americans can't build air conditioners in America for other Americans.

Yeah. I work along economists, and this is projected to be three times worse than the impact of COVID.

Who needs heating anyways?

It's typically cooling and the south.. Texas and most of the south would be miserable without AC.

You are all onto the truth you just haven't taken it to the logical end. This was a retard who was already getting overcharged. My guess is the HVAC guys saw how easily he agreed to a price 2-3x more expensive than it needed to be, and realized they could get another few thousand out of them by blaming tariffs.

its miserable with AC, texas power probably can't handle it either way. might get lucky and climate change some cooling in here though.

people are going to get their air conditioner fixed, they will pay or their fatasses will sweat off a few of those cheeseburgers

22k for ONE HVAC UNIT
sure that's real

Tradies and “small business owners” BTFO. Should have just gotten a real degree and worked for a large successful company like non retarded people instead of thinking you were special and could figure it out on your own lmao.

After living in the South for a couple years I definitely began to understand why they imported so many slaves to work the fields because holy fuck is it miserable.

anon you're just poor

who then push the cost to the renter idiot
they've raised rent for less

you can't pay people $2/hr in america

you can't pay people $2/hr in america, yet.

Hahahaha fuck him. Every man for himself. I hope we see millions of normies going bankrupt.

Yeah bro, yankees are installing foreign AC units with imported piping and fancy German isobuthane, yeah ok.

nah, RIGHT pre-2016 some big AC company moved its factories to mexico and trump was campaigning against NAFTA for it. probably won him the election but it ain't fixed yet lol

realized they could get another few thousand out of them by blaming tariffs.

kek.
I would believe this.

Should have just gotten a real degree and worked for a large successful company

Thanks, no thanks. All those people got Shoah'd by DEI and jeets. I enjoy seeing them email me resumes. Then I troll the whole system by taking federal work training funds from the SBA. When someone rolls in looking for work as a ex-con (white, of course - fuck niggers) I tell them straight-up that the work sucks but gets way better when they learn how to do something useful and if they show up on time I will square them with their PO and give them cash under the table to make up the difference between minimum wage and 20 a hour. One guy wanted tools and professional training and another took silver coins.

Everybody makes out ok, everybody gets taxed at minimum wage, and the feds pay me to hire them.

Try that in a cubical farm.

Money is worth half of what is was when Biden ( Obama) took office.
Now you’re complaining that Trump is causing the problem.
Stop voting for Marxist , nigger

doing fewer HVAC installations

Where do you shill that HVAC is optional.

no more AC for mutts

oh the ironing

by my reckoning this is the coldest year in decades, for the southern/midwest USA. only california and new york are frying.

so more service calls you say? you act like anyone other than section 8 niggers live with broken utilities in their houses (insert smoke alarm chirp here)

Oh shit! I just saw this on www.yeahthat reallyhappenedforrealpleasebeliveme.com

We just spent 4 years paying inflated prices for everything due to Biden's war on oil. But this gets the mouth breathers all twisted.

Retarded.

HVAC small businesses in the south got bought up by Blackrock unironically, go look it up. They appear to be separate cause Blackrock retained the right to brand them as such, but they are all under one umbrella while appearing to be separate entities so they could corner a seemingly organic market for small business. And so they could raise the prices in unison to set the new benchmark for HVAC pricing. Jewed once again.

youtube.com/watch?v=jD6wOclez74

Go to 12:20, i dont like Tim Pool but the guest he has on outlines the exact truth here in a nutshell

but the guest he has on outlines the exact truth here in a nutshell

so just make them in the US and sell them for $18k

tfw it only cost me a few hundred (plus needing to get some licenses that don't need to be renewed) to repair my unit myself when it needs fixing

HVAC/R is one of the biggest scams in the USA.

Where do you shill that HVAC is optional.

Open the fucking windows. Swamp-coolers are a thing. Fans are cheap. Acclimation to anything takes a week. You remind me of that fucker who claimed that going outside in 95-degree weather was death.

Sorry but that's bullshit and if you don't call them out on it, it's your fault.
15k->22k is almost 50% increase.
Which country got that much tariff?
None of them?
Yeah, they are just trying to figure out if you are a sucker or not and want to get more money out of you (or the guy is lying and it never happened).

indeed jewish hedge funds and private equity is purposefully squeezing the middle class and small business for every drop of blood they can. Absolute disaster for the economy, they have rewritten the new rules like its 2008 again and have already planned for a controlled financial demolition so they can entrench their control even more. Oldest story in the book.

it protects people from blowing up their own houses, mostly.

swamp coolers aren't a thing in swamps, only in deserts. i do love fans, AC is way worse, but fans dont cool shit.

95deg

more like 115-120 in some places, definite death BUT it's primarily boomer death so eh.

Fake n gay, there are many HVAC brands that are USA-made which wouldn’t be affected.
Stop falling for obvious lies, niggerbrain.

Tariffs aren't even changing yet. Why isn't the lesson here that the big importer is a cash grabbing kike? Also, those price reflections are extreme. Very extreme. A 100% tariff on a pair of shoes would be close to 5$. Same pair of shoes would later sell for close to 200$. Do they run extremely tight margins on HVAC systems? I doubt it.

from what i understand about meme heat pumps it shouldn't even be a big deal to almost DIY that shit.

you go without AC
that also get parts outside the country

Even so, raw materials don't get as much of a hit from tariffs as importing a full HVAC system would, so the $15k to $22k jump is still fake and gay

Should have bought American.

supplier

why arnt they making there own from scratch? if a company cant supply and produce there own they shouldnt exist

Except that it isnt one contractor, its all of them that got bought up and appear as small business even though they are owned by big business. This will literally become the new pricing model because of kikes.

its $15000

oh wait

a 10% tariff went into effect

so it will be $16500 then?

no

its $22000 now

HOLY FUCK THIS IS ALL TRUMPS FAULT AHHHHHHHHHH

Its crazy how many Americans can't do math.

you go without AC

All the time. 70F feels cold after you acclimate. Trees around the house keeps the sun at bay and an attic fan creates a chimney effect. Airflow is pushing around the papers on my desk right now, and the thermometer says 80.3 degrees. Comfy as fuck.

Buy American. Or if you want slave labor, you can always go be a slave, what's stopping you from making AC units for $0.75 an hour?

What do you do when foreign suppliers have been fucking your own "working class" out of manufacturing jobs and other supply production?
You take in the ass, don't you?
Your answer to such a thing is to just let them keep fucking you.

If you know how to troubleshoot on even the most rudimentary level, you can fix even the most complex heat pumps. And the most expensive part to replace is the fucking compressor that'll run maybe $2000 if you try to get a fancy meme one (you don't need a fancy expensive compressor). If a heat pump costs even 7,000 dollaridoos to repair, you're being scammed because the company smelled a retard that'll pay more than that.

Our supplier said it was going to cost 7k more. We're not going to explore other options we're just gonna go with it.

That nigger is getting SCAMAZZED

Tarrifs aren't 10% for everyone you dumbass Nigger
If it came from a country that you put 50% on it would jump to 22,5k

$15k is on the cheap side for one of a two unit system. Keep renting

15k

I'm not sure showcasing the increasing difference between wages and cost of good/services/living is a bad thing, since it needs to get solved one way or another.

They've had 50 years to stop wage stagnation and ease into recovery from liberal postwar postindustrial policies, they waited, so consumers are squeezed of everything now anyway and it's time to force a change that'll sting short term.

swamp coolers aren't a thing in swamps, only in deserts.

Get fucked, urbanite. Evaporative cooling is a thing whether you like it or not. For the price of 2 fans and a pump for the well HVAC isn't a thing I think about.

So glad I replaced my system in 2021.

The old one worked but it was 21 years old. Put in an oversized variable speed, replaced the 1/2 copper with 3/4in, new ductwork, furnace, everything.

Now my AC hums on low using very little energy while I sit comfy. Paid maybe 20k all in. Helps when you're friends are trade business owners.

Damn it feels good to be a rentchad

need a low dew point

Looks like collusion to me.
Trump better send someone to investigate HVAC installers over charging.

Definitely the chilliest winter in Florida since I moved here, shortly after blormpf was elected the first time
Tbh I liked it, has me thinking about moving back north

The old one worked but it was 21 years old

That was a good run.

Helps when you're friends are trade business owners.

Good deal indeed.

need a low dew point

If it comes to that the differential between water temp and ambient takes care of itself. My well is only 30ft deep and the water is 50F. Feels good to be a redneck.

Shill all you want. All these "problems" are bullshit if you just use what you have at hand.
Unless you live in some hive city with your windows painted shut and you live or die on the whims of your landlord.

Half scammers, a quarter people who aren't but are perceived as such becuase they too tired and jaded to argue and just let their clients who have no idea what they actually want, are asking for, or what it would cost to do things they way they're asking fleece themselves with their own demands, 15 percent guys who's communication and customer service skills are good enough to make the client understand and work through things with them and if applicable the architect to reasonable expectations that are within what they're willing to spend, and 10 percent people who are just entierly too nice to be in buinesses for themselves working their asses off and practically bending over backwards and shooting themselves in the foot to do things at the lowest price possible but will often take longer to get it done.

If I'm not mistaken american goods are not subject to tarrifs. Am I to believe that we have been allowing foreign goods into this company at such low prices for so long that american HVAC system manufacturers can't compete on a 32% edge and in fact it is STILL cheaper to buy foreign with the tarrifs? Why exactly should I be mad at the tarrifs in this case? Seems to me like I should be pissed at whoever the fuck decided to abandon the American hvac industry.

Yeah that guy is a liar

Seems to me like I should be pissed at whoever the fuck decided to [destroy American industry.]

This, actually. American labour law against slaves in China with Foxconn rules vs. OSHA.
Always remember, for every dollar you earn your employer has to pay an additional 30 cents in taxes and fees for the privilege of hiring you.

Yeah here too, somehow the 20% inflation caused a lot of things to jump 50% in price.
And if everybody else is doing it, you really can't do anything but adjust your own too.

HVAC1: So this faggot hates Trump

HVAC2: Cool, charge him +$7K over the estimate and blame it on Trump's tariffs

Based HVAC guys

This
He's gonna need to cough up some doh

Based HVAC guys

kek.

faggot can't replace his own hvac system

The sure sign of a low IQ, he should put a zip tie around his neck immediately.

You’re an illiterate retard

(((Get fucked lol)))

Tariffs caused the price of our illegal immigrant labor to go up.

it's okay because it doesn't affect me personally

Okay...

It was okay when we made factory assemblers obsolete because I saved a little money.

It was okay when their suppliers went under because they had no customer left cause I saved a little money.

It was okay when the companies that built and maintained their machinery went under because I saved a little money.

It was okay when the dinner down the street from the factory that the workers went to for lunch went under because I saved a little money.

it's okay when their supplier went under because I saved a little bit of money.

it's okay when the raw material providers that fed the whole system went under because I saved a little money.

it will ruin the country to help all of these people because I have to pay more.

My state parks estimates a single guest spends about $32 per visit between gas and food and everything else they buy that they wouldn't have if they didn't go to a park that day. I've been stuck on that for a while now cause it seems almost unbelievable how simple that number is in the context of parks but it goes completely unmentioned in the conversation of industry. We didn't just abandon the factory worker, we abandoned the entire food chain set up for that factory worker to be able to work. And everyone was just okay with it because it was "cheaper". Look at the life people enjoyed then vs now, it seems like we paid the difference in something more valuable than money...

retarded NEET who doesn't even own a home thinks HVAC is residential only

seems like we paid the difference in something more valuable than money...

Yes.

Damn, feel bad for Nic Cage to have worked next to that disgusting spic. Hasn't Nic suffered enough?

Really, they can’t get any American sourced HVAC parts?

Let me tell you what HVAC system your building needs

This is why you're supposed to buy new construction, folks

NO CRYING IN THE CASINO

It actually sickens me. I'm not arguing we need to all work like Chinese sweat shop slaves and abandon the strives in safety and compensation our forefathers won us, but we absolutely should have been a little bit more protective of our own industry than "fuck it, we can buy it cheaper from China so let's not even try". Why the fuck would we ever let someone else make everything we need for so much less when we could level it out with tarrifs? If an american hvac system costs $5k and a chink one costs $1k then slap a fucking $4k tarrif on it and both are happy. Chinks still get to sell their shit, Americans still get to sell their shit, for every chink system sold the tax burden is reduced by $4k, for every american system sold the entire ecosystem of the American economy is stimulated, consumers still have a choice, there isnt a race to the bottom to produce the absolute cheapest lowest quality product to remain somewhat viable. But we gave it all up so that boomers and corporations could skim the cream off the top and save a little money. It's like listening to a cancer patient bitch about chemo at this point, it might suck for a while but I don't think we will survive the alternative.

Checked for retardation. I'm a builder and developer, and more importantly, White (unlike you).
Here's a little breakdown of the basic systems you'll see in a middle class home.
1) A Mitsubishi multi-zone heat pump, air handler, and possibly ducted or non-ducted minisplits for spaces like garages, which will have a total installed cost of $12k to $40k.
2) a Zehnder (or cheaper brand) ERV is mandatory in new construction due to modern building science creating tighter structures, and an installed unit will cost $7,500 to $15,000.
Add in a couple grand for a quality dehumidifier, and five to fifteen thousand if you have a vented crawlspace which will require encapsulation.

Depends on the purchasing power of those $2. If you're talking about $2 before the Fed was created in 1914, I see no problem with that b/c I understand purchasing power.

good, fast and cheap, you get to pick two and only two

i dont remember how the carrier fiasco ended, did they move back to usa?

so HVAC should sue provider for not honoring their contract or take a loss and don't use that provider ever again. Tariffs being enacted doesn't give you automatic right to raise your prices

not slaves but USA has largest prison population and they should be building everything. lifers don't matter but those with 20 years and under should be put to work so they develop valuable skill for when they get out

prisoners should build everything

when they get out with their new skills all jobs will be in prisons

they'll have to go back to prison to work

((())) name poster

I'm sure he's being totally honest. (((they))) would never lie

Yes. You don't need anything larger unless you live in a 10,000sqft refrigerator.

Dumb cunt opinion. Renters already charge the absolute maximum they can before they end up with empty rooms. Charging higher results in people choosing not to pay $2,500 per month to live in a ghetto. Rent prices aren't funny numbers created based on the price of maintaining a structure - they are priced to the absolute line of supply and demand to ensure maximum extortion.

If you think otherwise, you're just factually fucking retarded, and likely barely functional in real life.

fucking installers are fucking over their customers. they take 2k hvac and charge 4k for it to the customer, then they charge nother 8k for labor. greedy faggots are killing their own business but they don't care since they can easily rebrand and start again

Destroy the working class to own the libs. It won't to most MAGA though since they're NEETs without jobs.

nah, look at Tyson of CNC, perfect example of criminal learning CNC skill in prison, came out and started his own CNC company making millions.
youtube.com/watch?v=0YPCfoPdJUo

No, because it will bring back jobs in time. He destroyed the multinationals. All change is painful.

Hopefully, men should not work for (((money))), as that is prostitution and men should never prostitute themselves.

what working class?

Here's a little breakdown of the basic systems you'll see in a middle class home.

Kek. Fuck that.
Live in a well maintained 1940's farmhouse.
Open windows and transoms. Free
Open door to attic stairway, attic windows. Free
Turn on well pump, listen to water run into swamp cooler and Ford radiator in a AC window housing. 10 cents a hour.
Watch air currents sweep random paper off the kitchen table as chimney effect kicks in. Priceless.

Just 'cause it's old, built by southern whites for southern whites for southern weather doesn't mean it's a bad thing.

Reject Modernity.

You can pay them nothing and have them work solely for the right to beg the customers for "tips".

It's not a LARP anons. It affects everyone. Even me. Citi bank even charged me $81 trillion in fees. They claim they are raising fees to cover tariffs in all their pen and papers. Can you believe it?

I can buy a real nice RV to live in than to pay for any of that.

muh building codes

The real reason housing is unaffordable.

have them work solely for the right to beg the customers for "tips".

>you can't pay people $2/hr in america

Honestly, we should all be moving away from hvac systems for houses. That shit is bad for air quality. Don't try to gaslight me and tell me there's no problem, yes there is, don't be stupid.

HIV is in the room with my ass

dilators are in the room with my ass

my foreskin is in the room with my rabbi

0:55

I came a little in my pants

Kek.

you probably live in a shithole that does not produce anything or is stuck in the middle income bubble but in some areas of the planet climate adjusters or air purifiers are required or you get ill and it's not just some luxury
and then you have temperature like you've never experienced before, you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about

Reject Modernity.

picel, muh, why don't you kys because it would have the same effect fro the rest of us?

Yep. Also a lot of Carrier is still made in the US. Looks like a giant market expansion opportunity for a proven, well known company. Same with Amana which is why I got that when I had to replace mine.

That shit is bad for air quality

Tariffs kick-start the drive for Carbon Net-Zero.
Why are the lefties so upset? No HVAC, no electricity usage, shut down the coal-fired power plants.

They claim they are raising fees to cover tariffs in all their pen and papers.

OH NO! Think of all the suffering bankers!

Your home and air are dirty because your old structure is very leaky. It's good enough and it's how houses have always been, but the benefits of modern buildings with minimal air leakage are hard to ignore - cleaner air leading to better health, resource efficiency due to lower energy consumption, and a more comfortable home.

I've already started using tariffs as an excuse to put up all my prices, I'm making fucking bank, I dont even have any fucking suppliers.
BECOME THE JEW.

window radiator sounds pretty slick but probably not too common to also have a cellar or something nearby to cool water

air purifiers

nah, none of that. thats just for disgusting city people.

ya dumb baboon

Which country got that much tariff?None of them?

If you buy parts through a third party then both you and the third party will usually have a markup to cover admin costs and profit margin. If that markup is 10% for the 3rd party and 10% yourself, then a 40% price increase for the part can become over 60%.

No one because the whole tweet is a lie

you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about

I fucking live here. I know exactly what I'm talking about.

you probably live in a shithole that does not produce anything or is stuck in the middle income bubble

Ah, no. People live and work here, outside even, when the sun is up and the air temp climbs over 90F. Local paper has lots of job openings as well. If you can go outside without wilting like a wax candle there are jobs to be had tomorrow morning.

but in some areas of the planet climate adjusters or air purifiers are required

Then why didn't the human population die-off before the invention and construction of the electrical power grid?

why don't you kys because it would have the same effect fro the rest of us?

No thanks. Today is my day off, I get to have conversations with anons such as yourself and do some housework. Having too good a day for suicide.

PREPARE THYSELF

cleaner air leading to better health, resource efficiency due to lower energy consumption

Filtered, recycled air endlessly fed through electricity-consuming machines. No thanks, I prefer open windows.

but the benefits of modern buildings with minimal air leakage are hard to ignore

Easy to ignore. Sealed boxes dependent on machinery. Fuck that.

nu-Anon Babble unironically boosting moshe's mocking the echoes parentheses who is also making stuff up(of course)

not too common to also have a cellar or something nearby to cool water

Well in the yard behind the shed. Water temp at the check valve is 66F, so at the wellhead it would be 58-60F. (just measured it for our chat)

When the spics started getting kicked out wholesale

This has yet to happen

wow what a debunk! he took the most powerful argument any chud could muster up about tariffs and he exposed it! i'm hollaing for kamala now

im rich but not THAT rich

Lmaaoooooo xD

A jew is saying this. Is there someone more trustworthy making this claim?

Why do you hate capitalism?

Then why didn't the human population die-off before the invention and construction of the electrical power grid?

they lived a very short lifespan, fucking was the only entertainment aside from tossing shit in the air, so they had a bunch of kids
then again a mindless babboon like you cannot handle a chart, so noticing the whopping 40 years lfiespan increase since the late middle ages in 1800 didn't really trigger your only neuron

I fucking live here.

you live up a cow's ass as far as I'm concerned
no proof, no belief, simple as

conversations

or perhaps you're from an area where you mother is also your sister, and then reasoning with you is impossible
got any cool theories to share on the flat earth TImmy? how's the firmament looking today?

got any cool theories to share on the flat earth TImmy? how's the firmament looking today?

So much anger. Why do you hate open widows and cold water? What is it about heat pumps and air filters that makes you feel safe? Why does the outdoors scare you?

Who hurt you, bro? You can tell us, we will probably never speak together again.

I bet none of them learned to code.

American made at the voting office and in a stores has been a thing since the 80s. It was blamed as racism by the usual suspects, so the "we" in this subject is a specific subset with the intentions of lowering US hegemony. Additionally, the lack of representation for this segment of society by focusing on different problems and diverting attention is greatly appalling. It's lack of representation based on attention span manipulation.
Or, if you look even deeper, the unionization capture preventing collective bargaining from ever reaching the ones doing the work through morality based support for the "marginalized." For the working class, it was vote your conscience for gay buttsehks (or similar), which is contrary to their social mores, or accept being underpaid as the status quo.

muh infant mortality.

Your life wasn't birth to 40 you absolute retard. If you made it to 5 you lived almost as long as we do now. Sure there's been some gains made in later life but you're not arguing that. Go be a dishonest gypsy somewhere else. And yes, people have lived in hot humid environments for a very very long time, even before modern air conditioning.

You can tell us, we will probably never speak together again.

non-sequitur, anyhoo

So much anger.

it isn't, trust me, it's like scoring a perfect shot, I see it, I aim and I shoot
wham, just like that, the comeback quenches your laugh

the outdoors

to me it is rather obvious, you shill hard for some crypto-feudal times thinking that those times were great for people, even though, I have to point out the actual chart at again that clearly tells you that wiping your ass with corn just wasn't "healthier" at all
yet to the contrary, it leads to the irritation of the anus, that makes you so passively baffled and makes your write your crappy responses

Pretty accurate.

I bet none of them learned to code.

Too bad. Just for kicks I checked on-line job openings in town. If they could code there are 2 openings looking for people right now.

They should have learned to Excel.

Your life wasn't birth to 40

Timmy can't spazz up a sentence today.

you absolute retard.

lmao, the retard that can't form a sentence calling others retards

If you made it to 5 you lived almost as long as we do now.

wow Timmy, you're so fucked in the head, I'm not sure what you're arguing for
what the fuck are you trying to say you mentally handicapped monkey?
can you perhaps draw a picture with some crayons you absolute fucking baboon?
roflmao

15k dollar HVAC

working class

They're are somewhat rural areas with retarded rents, so regulation is hardly the issue.

oh my sweet summer child

maybe learn to do shit yourself if you can't afford slaves doing it for you? I do carpentry, plumbing, and electrics for myself, it's not exactly rocket science you know and it saves a fuckton of monies. You have to earn at least 10k to afford 5k of slave labour when you account for all costs, and in reality it's usually more like 10k for 2k, so even if you are in a very high paying job it makes financially sense to do it yourself. Not to even mention that when you do it yourself you know that it's done right (again, it's not rocket science, if you've got three digit IQ you can do electrical wirings for your home with zero risk if you just got the patience to check your work at least once), and not half-assed by some faggot who couldn't care less about your house.

Miggers are a disease plagueing this nation

Don't pull the ladder up on the way up. It's inhumane to do so and people will hate you for it.

working class

hes probably a business owner genius

you shill hard for some crypto-feudal times thinking that those times were great for people,

Turn off AC, open windows. Houses built before 1960 are surprisingly complex machines, designed to be comfortable with minimal energy inputs. If that is Neo-Feudalism then fine - so be it. I'm living it right now and am perfectly happy.
Sorry for you, though. Hope things work out.

entrepreneur

working class

Bingo. Expect companies that have no relation to anything having to do with tariffs to start price gouging and price fixing. They never prosecute people for these kind of crimes.

until someone sets a fire nearby and then smoke blows into your house

depends on how they were built, my family built half a neighborhood before it was incorporated and they were pretty retarded.

Sounds legit

surprisingly complex machines

yeah, I bet yours even had its own biome, along with the rats and the mold, with mushrooms growing out of the ceiling

I'm living it right now and am perfectly happy.

given how much you throw your crap around, it's pretty clear to anyone you're larping and experiencing problems or else you did not have this inferiority complex
thing is, it would be much better if you kept it to yourself instead of misleading others to how great it is to bathe in the village river

Sorry for you, though.

thank you for your concern
but, well, you're right, can't educate all retards, so, fuck you and fuck your neo-feudalism or whatever the crap you're on about
you should open a house with the sandniggers, live in a hut and drive a mercedes

That's not even reasonable

for a brand new furnace and AC its reasonable for a 2000sqft+ home

$10k for a full HVAC system in a 4000 sq/ft house, even with 25% tariff that's just $12500. Sounds like liars or scammers.

until someone sets a fire nearby and then smoke blows into your house

Kek. Arson and trash fires aren't a thing around here. Where the fuck do you live where that is something you have to worry about?

depends on how they were built,

This one is sweet. Old school. 2x12 floor joists, hardwood floors, horsehair plaster. The interior doors are solid and the only nods to modernity are a 1990's garage door and a double-width sliding glass door to the kitchen yard.

They can't wait for us to suffer.

They can't wait for us to suffer.

Going to have to wait a long time, if ever, I think. Between summer tourist season and work-orders already picking up the next few months at least are looking really good.

Someone wishing us to butcher our own children to ward off starvation is more than a little disturbing, I will admit.

yeah, I bet yours even had its own biome, along with the rats and the mold, with mushrooms growing out of the ceiling

This is weird as well. I'm confused about the hate.

Since the tariffs aren’t in effect yet this is just more made up shit from these pathological lying sociopaths

this is just more made up shit from these pathological lying sociopaths

Same as it ever was.
Greata said everyone here would be dead this year from rising sea levels, looking outside the grass is still above water.

JUST. BUY. AMERICAN. FROM. AMERICAN. FACTORIES.

how hard can that be?

but since your anal empire served as a jew hammer to destroy civilization you do deserve to suffer.

$15,000 for an air conditioner isn't "working class".

Working class would buy the unit for $1200 at Home Depot and install it themselves.

That's what me and my dad did. All work should be done by your family, money and trading are for faggot effeminate "men".

You can afford HVAC? Good, I'm happy for you.

Fake email job bitch can't install hvac her self, so has to hire "working class" to install her shit for her, costing more now that she waited after first quote and "working class" told em it just raised in price in materials and our "working class" hours, now go answer some more emails in your cubicle dumb whore, and then shop on Amazon for more "working class" niggers to deliver your slop

Larp, this retard doesn't own a home and tariffs are still days and in some cases months away.

and tariffs are still days and in some cases months away.

Happening cancelled.

customs broker here.

if the HVAC parts/unit were purchased from china, it's subject to the following tariffs:

normal tariff of 2.2% which is the highest among the HTS 8415 subheading. in this case, we are using 8415.81.0130 which is for HVAC units not otherwise specified or included (NOSOI).

section 301 list 3 tariff implemented 2018 9903.88.03 from 2017: 25%

IEEPA tariff implemented march 2025: 20% (cannot be deducted from income value for DDP)

section 232 tariff on steel and aluminum goods: 25%

MPF: 0.3464%

HMF: 0.125%

combined tariff percentage on FOB price: 72.6714%

this is before the 10% and then 34% tariffs are supposed to be implemented week.

if the HVAC parts/unit were purchased from china, it's subject to the following tariffs:

Well, sucks for the Chinese. I'm sure they will muddle through.

Oh okay I guess I won't get an AC then

Said no one ever. If anything this just enables the HVAC company to charge whatever bullshit number they feel like charging and people will still have to pay it because who the fuck wants to live without AC?

Y'all got any domestic HVAC factories ready to rip?

shitlib: trump hates the working class!

shitlib: haha you’re poor!

Death to all bolshevists.

Well, sucks for the Chinese.

it's american importers that are paying the tariff you retard. i've had no shortage of customers say to me that they're going out of business in the last 20 days once they received the duty rate calculation.

china and the US can survive a recession, but china is going to come out the other end better because most chinese don't have living standards approaching anything like the US but are more industrious. the US will have to cope with higher cost of living and trying to restart their industrial manufacturing base, which will undoubtedly be automated because americans are lazy and entitled and socially-fractured.

chink has the balls to beg for America to continue importing trash from his homeland

He has to go back.

Damn it's almost like white men are more important than any other group of people since every bit of infrastructure depends on them.

shouldn't have hired DEI.

not my fucking problem, boomers should've considered the risks of outsourcing everything to the Chinese who could've just as likely raised the prices 25% as they pleased

because who the fuck wants to live without AC?

This whole discussion is amazing. How many people in this thread live in a situation where they would be personally responsible for a heat-pump?

Go to Lowes and remember to get concrete for the exchanger pad.

Mostly what these tariffs are going to do is further consolidate business amongst the billionaire class.
Joe Average with an average resale business, how is he going to come up an extra 50% cash to pick up his items at port? Banks aren't going to expand his line of credit when the stock markets are crashing. Banks need cash to meet their reserves.
So Joe Average will fold his business, but the big boys will pick up the slack and charge even more for constrained supply, and further concentration of wealth. Thanks tariffs.

customers say to me that they're going out of business in the last 20 days once they received the duty rate calculation

Good, if you're running a fake business it needs to die so real businesses can replace it. It's the cycle of life - the weak shall perish. It's not our fault you're a confused retard who picked the wrong scam, enjoy your well-deserved suffering, scumbag.

not my fucking problem

oh it will be anon. and i unironically wish you the best for the upcoming hard years.

i've had no shortage of customers say to me that they're going out of business in the last 20 days once they received the duty rate calculation.

Learn to Code.

Boomers really bought a nine bedroom house for a fistful of nickels in 1989 and don’t understand how prices could have gone up since. 15k is chump change today, especially after bidenflation. Trump will only make it worse. By 2028 15k won’t even cover a month of rent.

More kike made up shit.

DID A 1PBTID JUST SPAM A BULLSHIT ANTI DRUMPF THREAD WITH 20000 BOT REPLIES AND NOT GET BANNED FOR IT???

HOLY BASED AM I RIGHT MODS YOU FUCKING TRANNY FUCKING FAGGOTS
I SHIT DOWN YOUR THROAT

No it won't, we need AC units and the boomer chinese distributors are going out of business, oh no! They're glorified dropshippers and they're dead and that's a good thing.

Are you going to be one of those guys who tweets rah rah Trump today, and then tomorrow you'll tweet "wahhhh I got fired because of tariffs!"
Or do you even job? If not, who gives a fuck about you in any way whatsoever you loser.

A/C is truly not needed in Northern Europe. I have a portable unit and I used it like 3 times last year.

Not only do I have a massive nest egg I can do without Funko Pops and Switch 2s. If an extra 25% on an HVAC system is what breaks your back, you're already fucked dummy. Not that your Chinese-Canadian opinion matters.

I can't flip this property I bought in a hyperinflated housing market! My profits! My 2nd fishing boat! My 3rd truck to pull it! I NEED ANOTHER VACATION HOME!!!!

fuck these people.

By 2028 15k won’t even cover a month of rent.

Fuck yes. Bring it.
Total Urban Death.

I had an arborist supply company I bought gear from in the past email me to tell me that because of tariffs prices could jump by 30-50% and that I should buy as much as I can. Like I'm supposed to believe a 30-50% price increase from some of the input cost is going to be a 1 for 1 increase for the final product. That's like thinking because gas jumped 10% from last week that all services that involve gasoline are now 10% more expensive. Absurd. Fuck you Treestuff I will never buy from you again.

Basic services, housing, cars, groceries, etc. all grow by 20+% after five years of the worst inflation in living memory

LE FUNKO POPS AND AVOCADO TOAST

Miggers are so dishonest

Good post. I don't even understand what future these faggots envision if we kept going as we were going. What is their unironic plan? Inflate away the dollar everyday so that a few boomers can survive into their 100th birthday feeling relatively rich compared to 99% of Americans?

I mean everywhere, including whatever shithole you live in

Pic

I LMAO'd

Bet this stupid fuck just has a backed up drain line

Nobody said keep the status quo, nobody was happy with it and you’re dishonest or retarded if you use that strawman. There are just easier, much less retarded ways to fix our economic problems than orangeniggers AI generated list of blanket tariffs.

Such as?

a couple of sheet metal ducts and a blow fan is now worth 10% of a house

mhmm sure

Your rent/mortgage will double. Your groceries and gas will double. Your insurance, healthcare costs, tools, ammunition, tools, will all double in price. MIGA shit will dribble down your chin and you’ll smile and praise the vintage.

I mean everywhere, including whatever shithole you live in

Rent? Me? Fuck no. Even full Weimar would just be entertainment. Everyone with a skill will be fine. DEI hires and anyone with a student loan will be fucked, but when paper money is worthless we can all pay our paper debts with million-dollar bills and exchange goods and labour using pre-1964 coins.

Look on the bright side. The whole system you have lived in your whole life is about to be destroyed. That system is sick and satanic, we are going to have a good time very soon.

Total Jubilee Apocalypse.

You say that like it is a bad thing.

Such as shutting down immigration and H1Bs to protect American wages (instead we will get infinity pajeets after American cost of living doubles and “nobody wants to work” for poverty wages)

Such as cracking down on the commodification of housing and speculatory institutional investing so that housing prices stop growing faster than inflation

Such as strategically tariffing goods that are objectively useless to trim the fat (funko pops, temu slop, European wines, luxury cars, etc.) instead of retardedly crippling our entire supply chain to OWN ZE LIBS

If you have a triple digit IQ there are obvious ways to solve these problems, but miggers are all subhumans with nigger-tier IQs

Weak b8 migger

Mine was less than $5k brand new, wtf? Does this fag have a small warehouse?

yfw frozen pipes

Any response, migger? Or is locking the border, raising white wages, shutting down slop consoomption, and punishing speculatory kikes actually lefttarded? Am I a leftist tranny salty that queen nigger lost? What’s your cope, migger

You paid for it before bidenflation and trumpflation

I have a fixed mortgage retard, it stays the same no matter what the market is like.

No he's likely just quoting the maximum figure which includes the most expensive commercial unit, along with full installation of new ducts and such.

>yfw frozen pipes

Deep South. Not a thing, yankee.

ok so when will trump make them stop doing it?

Sorry, I try to forget about equatorial swarthoids who can't tolerate the white man's season.

strategically tariffing

Hahaha, this tranny is chimping out because the chinese trash he resells is now unaffordable.

All the HVAC companies have the same prices

FUN FACT: HVAC companies are a cartel scheme. A holding company buys up all the small operations in an area; but keeps their names making it seem like they're still operating independently. They then jack up he prices on all the businesses they bought up and so when you call someone else for an estimate you get quoted the same price.

who can't tolerate the white man's season.

I laugh at the yanks who come down here to retire and then die trying to mow their own lawns in August.

Goes both ways, yank. We should have become 2 or 3 separate countries. Nobody retires to Illinois, but you fucks come down here in swarms.

It's ok though, economically it's like getting doordash every day you didn't order.

Bingo. This is a transfer of wealth from Jewish boomer parasites to the current millenial working class and they are FURIOUS.

Good. amerimutt working class needs to suffer more.

43 year old neet who wants to learn a trade. Is it possible to make good money in HVAC?

I've done welding and hiking in the southern summer and the northern (more north than Illinois) winter without issue, we're just built different up here.

Genuinely in awe of this. A modern day hephaestus.

Also affects anyone that owns a home with a failed hvac. Yeah, your basement dwelling is comfortable now but give it a few months. “Dad, don’t be so fucking cheap- it’s too fucking hot down there at night”!

You could make $100k/y doing hvac in the 90s here but it's also required for people to not die.
It's a complex trade because you do some electrical, plumbing and everything else.

Same business model as all the exotic sports cars manufacturers: stupid high prices, only need limited sales. Fuck everyone needing an affordable car.

this little inspector nigga has 1000 videos of shitty contractors fucking over homeowners. he exposes their shitty work and they squeal bloody murder. worth watching a couple of these.

youtube.com/results?search_query=cyfy home inspections

on the one hand the value should be increasing fast but on the other hand a lot of it's tied into new home construction. also they dont have a single dedicated union like some folks so they get tacked onto other shit all over.

My dehumidifier is made in Madison, WI

It's literally never that cold

basement dwelling

hot down there at night

what. the. fuck. kys. basements are the epitome of stable temperature.

t. basement owner

fuckin idiot.

It gets colder than that in a normal winter at white people latitudes.

home (around 2,000-2,500 sq ft), installing a new, gas-powered forced hot air heating and air conditioning system (HVAC) typically costs between $7,500 and $15,000, including labor and materials.

Honestly, we should all be moving away from hvac systems for houses. That shit is bad for air quality

Elaborate please

They knew he was a sucker. Probably has funco pops everywhere.

What a fucking retard. I just got HVAC 2 years ago and the total cost was only $2500

Trump just destroy the working class?

BASED BASED BASED

Fuck off troons

HVAC techs make the slimmest, greediest jews look like austere saints by comparison so I believe your theory.

t. charged $16k for a 5-way minisplit.

Astonishingly based, king

Like that bitch buying from Paltrows boutique showing a “tariff charge”?
Goddamn I hate those fucking types of people so much.

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